#16 - MC Eiht

a lot of dope stuff on deck. We got an interview with Blast, who's probably the hottest artist out of LA We got an interview with Sada Baby, who's from Detroit and who was so high off of Leen during our interview that I had to cut it short because he was falling asleep and it was kind of pointless. Yeah. Interesting nonetheless, Also, Action Bronson will be on the podcast next week. Bam, bam, He'll be on the podcast. And yeah, man, so much stuff going on. I really just want to

shout out to uh. You know, I'm a I'm a I'm a sports gambler and I've just been extremely excited that football's back. I just went to Vegas over the weekend with my best friend David and uh just watched football and got drunk and gambled. It was amazing. It was like literally like it was Euphoriak. But I got a shout out my Arizona Cardinals for winning me a shit ton of money over the weekend. Yeah. I'm trying to think of the new hip hop I'm listening to

right now. I don't know if there's anything new but the new Marquel Del Juan and Tony Talk EP that just dropped that is actually off of Ready Set, the label, which people don't know that's my record label. So shout Markel and Tony Chalk. Go support their EP if you don't mind. Also, Berner's new project is out. Yeah, there's some dope new wrapout, so you know, go dibble and dabble. I'm still off that Big Sean and that Conway. Both of those albums are still in full rotation for me.

Shout out to Conway, Shout out to Big Sean. Both albums are crazy. This week's episode, we have got a legend, a Compton legend MC eight the og. Now, when I was a kid man, I remember first kind of hearing of MC eight. Obviously, Compton's Most Wanted and his beef with DJ Quick. I remember DJ Quick dissing him on Safe and Sound saying, ei h T should I continue? You left out the G because the G eight in you and as a kid, that was kind of how I first got super familiar with this guy, but a legend,

and we had a really dope conversation. He's got a new album that's out right now officially that's Dope. Super Fire features on their Primos, on their Davies Conway Go tap in with his new album. And of course before we get to the interview, got a shout out our sponsors. We do have some of those. Shout out to our presenting sponsor, odd Socks. Yeah, odd socksofficial dot com. Now, if you don't know about odd Socks, they got the most comfortable socks in the world. They also got the

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the legend right now. Man MC eight was cracking, kid. I'm chilling, bro. I gotta tell you. When I was a kid, I had a big cousin who had all you know, the CD books used to be the shit, right right, get all your shit comped his most wanted shit, and I kind of got introduced, I want to say, as a child, you and quicks Beef was my first introduction to like rap beef. Right. I was probably like, I don't know, like ten or eleven, and uh, you know, you guys had a legendary back and forth. But man,

it's it's so dope to talk to you. I've obviously I've been in LA for like three or four years. The first time you met man d Y some d you got your new album that How long have you been working on this new album? Since I've been working on it for about a year and a half, you know, just trying to get the right music together, you know, try to get a couple of features whatever. You know, I don't really be big on features. I just try

to do what I do. You know, when I start recording a project, I usually just go into the studio. I get about three four producers, and I just have them just send me beat after beat after beat after beat. So I might record up to sixty songs, right, and then from there, I just you know, being in the game a while and having relationships with certain cats, it enables me to pick up the phone and be like, hey, you know, I need a verse, I need a beat.

So always Primo, always New York cats, you know, you know, I kind of you know, extend their hand as far as as far as my, my, my, my, I want to say my contribution to hip hop. It's been so long, so dude, or just you know, send me versus send

me beat. So I've been recording this record for about a year and a half, and I try to do a lot of songs, and then I'll out of the sixty songs, I might pick thirty and then I'll send them to Primo, and then Primo will be like yeah no, yeah, no, yeah no. And then from there, I just basically just try to put whatever. It don't even matter on the amount of songs I record. If it's twenty songs, we put twenty songs out. If it's fifteen, we do fifteen,

if it's twelve, if it's twenty seven. I mean, I just try to do a gang of songs, so at least it'll go around the board and have everybody or something a little flavor for everybody. You and a Primo, give me the roots of your guys' relationship because obviously you being from La Primos, you know, originally from Texas, but we are associated with New York. Talk about y'all's

relationship and you know where it started. I started rapping the man back in the day days, you know, uh, p Roxeal, Smooth, e Z, ice Cube, Tone, Low School e D So I was being around for a while. So back in my days, record companies was big on promotional tours. You had to go out, you had to go do end store, sign all the graphs. So around the time I first got started, Primo in them had first got started with Gangstar, him and Rest in Peace Guru.

I used to see him a lot on the road promo tours, and one of my first major concerts was with Gangstar at the Celebrity Theater and oh no, there's a Celebrity Theater in Phoenix too. Yeah, it was a Celebrity Theater at Anaheim and my first major show was Low Profile Wow, Above the Law, Okay CMW and Gang Star so that's like such a gigster as West Coast lineup.

And then Gangstar and the Gang Star so you know, they was hot with the Manifest record, so I used to bump into him, and a lot of my early gigs, you know, when I start touring was with Gangstar, whether it was Texas or Chicago, Cleveland. Always used to bump into Premo on them, so we got cool like that. And then me being signed to Sony. You know, a lot of my deals in construction, I had to go to New York deal with the suit heeads. So I used to call Primo up every time, you know, Premo

on coming into town. He picked me up from the airport. We go to his crew, just hang out like homies, and we've kept that relationship over the years. You know. He used to remix my records when I was over at Sony, over at Epic, so we just kept a connection, you know, and Premo used to take me around all the shows, the gigs. You know, I got introduced to nas early and bust the rhymes and Tretch and a lot of them cats Man, we used to just chill. So we've built that rapport over the years as too.

I can hit Primo up man anytime a day, anytime a day, night, whatever, and it's it's always a given, you know, Premo, I need a beat or sometimes I just want them to listen to shit to make sure I'm on the right track. Because as a producer, goddamn right, he got that ear and being a and you know, producing for everybody from me to Jill Scott, jay Z, jay Z, Christina Biggie, you know, so he's had that, he's had that track record where he has that good ear.

So me and Primo has been knowing each other for a long time and I respect that friendship relationship outside of just the music. You know, somebody you would cross paths with at a concert or show or whatever, that's the best. And yeah, I had one conversation with Primo

and it was it was the best. It was like when you meet your idols, Yeah, and it like they don't they don't fuck up, you know, because sometimes you meet somebody who you grow up loving and and then you meet him and or you interviews is like Dann you're disappointed. But with Primo, we just talked hip hop and porn stars and all kinds of wild Yeah, yeah, that's pre Wo. That's Primo. N Primo can talk you

around everything, every subject, every anything, you know. And like I said, that's from being as being a diverse human being that Primo is being and a good nigga. He's always been that for sure. Let's go back to kind of how you got started, man, Like obviously being from Compton, being involved in the gang ship. At what point in time did you decide to take hip hop serious and realize that it might be like a way out of

the other ship that was going on. Well, you know, like I said, I started in the height of you know, not just saying that, you know, gang Bang still exists and it's still out there whatever, but I started in the height of the area around Iced Tea with Colors and NWA and Easy with boys in the hood and straight out of Compton, and then Ice Tea was six in the morning, King T. You know what I'm saying, shout out to the liquid crew man. King T and Iced Tea are two guys who don't get enough praise

for what they did. Definitely my dude, Tila Tela was man. I mean every every record that came out from Tela in that time was just you know, payback some mother and you better bring a gun and all that shit. Man. He was the forefront of what everybody could say was what started Compton hip hop. No disrespect to my nigga, Taddy Ta and mixed Master Spade, but as far as records could went, Tila was that dude. So I was just a young cat, you know, trying to bang in

the neighborhood whatever. And Todd was from my neighborhood. Totty t shout out Totty T. Todd came out with a song called the Battle Round. You know, Battle Around was a neighborhood jam, you know, the Daryl Gates police drug sales whatever. So that kind of peaked my interest of getting into the rap game. And then I took a summer vacation, you know, the Mississippi, and my cousin being in Mississippi was more East coast in Cline. So that's

when I start hearing rap music. You get me Eric Bing, Rock Him and fucking Utfo and Rock Sanne Shine, Te Treacherous Threeses, Grandmaster Flash, so I'm like, oh, shit like So it piqued my interests to want to take it to a different level as to just going home and rapping about the block, because that's what I did. I wanted to be a Toddy t or Spade. I wanted to rap about tragnu. I want to talk about the the police harassment and who we had beef with and

whatever whatever. But then when I got introduced to like I said, rock him and Eric be as president. When you hear shit like that or EPMD, you got to chill. You start going wild, like it's something else to this shit than just speaking on what'd you see exactly. So from that I just took the skills and what I've learned from the East Coast rappers of learning how to put together versus in a perfect song and to rap

about shit outside of Compton, you know. So that's what sparked my real interest and want to turn from just a little mixtape or TDK selling talking about we this and we that and we bang or this is our hood, and it wanted me to take it further. The songs like growing up in the Hood or drive by Miss Daisy or to get more you know, personal with the rap. So it started around when I started listening to East Coast Rap. I mean, I mean East Coast Rap was

big for me, man, real talk. Yeah, I mean I think that that was always kind of prevalent in your ship like that, because I you know, I mean, even if we can fast forward to now, you know, your first singles got Conway exactly by Primo definitely. But I do think that if you think back to that era of like West Coast hip hop, like how even even Ice Cube, you know, with America's Most Wanted, which I think is his best body of work, was heavily influenced by by by by New York with the Bomb Squad

definitely and Chuck d and all that. What at what age did you initially get involved in gang banging? Because I do feel like we, like you said, it's it's still around, but when you were growing up, it was kind of it was it was it was new. I'm just saying it was new to the world exactly right, exactly like the Cripson blood shit was something that was starting to become like a mainstream thing. But now we all know what Cripson bloods are, right. I mean, as

a young kid, I was naive to it. I mean I lived in the center of it and didn't know shit about it. As a fucking five six seven year old kid, all I knew was Saturday morning cartoons, riding my bike up and down the street, and not knowing that the dudes right down the block was claiming shit and selling drugs. And I was naive to it. But as you grow and you start seeing and you start adapting to your environment, and you seeing the dudes hanging on the corners and dudes your age riding around and

fancy cars and whatever. So my introduction to that was around you know, twelve thirteen years old. What year was this shit? This had to be like eighty five, eighty six. You know, it was treacherous around here. You know, I was go I would go to the bus stop, getting ready to go to school, and then I start getting introduced to nigga sweating you, and shit, I didn't know

what the fuck that was about it. I'm sitting at the bus stop getting ready to go to school, and it's like, Nigga, where the fuck are you from and what you're doing over here? And while you got that on and what you're wearing that hat for? And while you got there and I'm looking like, god damn this and that was the reality of it. So and as at that age, it's funny because before that I dealt with none of that. But then once you once you hit that age next, it's just like a common thing.

You either getting sweated or you sweating a motherfucker or y'all jumping out on motherfuckers. And that's like I said, it was the product of my environment, is what I adapted to when I was able to understand and know what gang banging was about and trying to grow up in a section and trying to protect your section and represent and it's about you and the homies and whatever.

So it was a transition, I think, growing up on the West and being in that environment, because if I probably grew up somewhere else, it had probably been a

different thing. Do you think that you're having to deal with that shit where people would bang on you or sweat you, Like you said, like, did that kind of force you to like figure out like I need to I need to have something to say, Well, yeah, I mean you either gonna get down or lay down at that aspect, So it's either you gonna belong you gonna belong to something and represent something, or you gonna be a motherfucker out there who's probably gonna end up at

the like belly of the beast because there was no saving I don't give a fuck. You could say you wasn't from nowhere, and then the motherfucker sweat you harder. So it's best to be loan then to not and get caught up in the world of bullshit that you can't handle. So that was my thing about, you know, the gang banging shit and claiming the hood or getting corded in or whatever. It was the sense of feeling like I belonged and represented, you know what I'm saying.

And I had fifteen twenty thirty other niggas who was representing, and we all for the protection of whatever, and if niggas didn't like it, then we handle that accordingly to why we did it. But like I said, I think it's it's not a choice. It's being in a situation, in an environment that we grew up in. It's like, that's what you did. Yeah, it's funny because I just had this conversation with somebody. I had a cousin who did like fifteen years in prison, right right. I have

two cousins. One of them is half Mexican, half white. He's in the Mexican mafia. My other cousin who actually passed away in prison recently. Not a racist guy, big hip hop head, but literally was in for twenty years and he join the Arian Nation. It's a survival thing. It's like definitely, it's like you know, I remember he got out for a couple of years and I took him to a Bust of Rhymes concert and it was like the best night of his life. But this motherfucker,

I like, you gotta wear long sleeve shirts, bruh. But like you said, it's like, yo, it's what your It's like, you gotta adapt. You have to down and lay down. I mean, you have to adapt to certain situations that were put in, especially if you want of those young young men who grow who grew up or got tossed in the situation to where it's either gone. You either a part of this and gonna belong, or you're gonna

represent and you're gonna up. You're gonna uphold this ship to the best of your ability, or you're gonna be like I said, You're gonna be a sheep to the Lions.

What are your thoughts on on now? Because I do feel like it's just interesting that like there's people who move to l A, like artists who moved to LA and then you know, all of a sudden they're affiliated with certain sets and and and they got big homies and I don't know how like you know, there's like R and B singers and shit that are like banging like hard as fuck, and it's like, wait a minute, like you know, like what are your thoughts on kind

of how how gang banging has evolve currently? Because I do feel like there's a lot of there's a lot like like there's a lot of faces to certain you know, sets that are like that aren't from here. You know what I'm saying, Well, I'll take that. I look at that as a lot of people get into situations to where they feel like it's just like if a dude joined the Cup scout so went out and joined the football team or whatever. The aspect of that is to toughen up or make you seem like, you know, you

protect it or being something that you ain't. Some dudes have to adapt to that situation. Some dudes have to feel like you know, that's my that's my foundation of what I've seen or what I've wanted to become. If for dudes like me who grew up here and first hand withinessed Gang Banyon and grew up in it, there was a certain way and cold that you belonged or you got put on a neighborhood. You know. The New Days quote of Gang Banyon is to each his own is what I say. It's what is accepted and what

ain't accepted from whatever gang feels like. This is what they do. I mean, I don't know. Sometime it might be a popularity contest, or it might be a Hey, I've always wanted to be a part. So is it a backward step to me? I think it is. But like I said, some dudes is to each his own and they feel like that they have to have that background to make them official. You feel me. So I don't really speak on it because then we don't want to get entangled in the situation of telling people that

they not original or whatever. Because if you feel that's you, that's you myself. I know the certain codes coming from Compton at twelve thirteen years old, knowing what it took or what what had to be done to be initiated into a game as to nowadays, it's just like, hey, you're down, you down show it's lead and it's all good. So it's different codes, like I said, at different times. I mean, gang banging is commercialized now. Back in my

days when we didn't glorify it. I mean, people knew where we were from where we represented, but there was no way in fuck like on the hit yeah it. Like I remember when there was the Crips Versus or the Cripson Blood's album Banging on Wax right, and I was like, wait what, Yeah, it started to become commercialized because record labels looked at it as as a promotional

tool to sell references. I mean, honestly, we couldn't do that shit back in my days when I got signed to Sony and I was on Epic Records, the home of Michael Jackson and shar Day, No way in fuck you're finna put bandanas on a video and you're finna be on the record talking about you a crip from so and so. The way we did it is we did it with our color symbolizations. Or niggas will wear blue in their videos. The Bloods will wear red and

they videos and we left it at that. Now that record labels see that it's influenced by all shit, So he's saying he is. Now you got a million fans who buy in this product because he representing what. We're not gonna stop that and then claim whatever you want to. You want more blue bandanas, you want more red bandannas, get them. The more the merrier, because it's now commercialized

and people ain't scared of the situation no more. Not to say gang banging ain't official, but like I said, back in our days, motherfuckers have security in the lobbies of record labels because they were scared of niggas walking in them. You like, bring all your crew in ship, you get So it's just the way that motherfuckers have monetized it and made it to where we can put it on film, you can claim it, and then there it is. Fuck it long as we making a dollar

off of it, we don't. Really, we're not intimidating. Will turn the other cheek, will turn the other cheeks. Yes, I wanted to ask you about something specific that I just wanted to get your take on, and that's the six nine situation. He just was out in l A. Yeah, for like three or four days obviously, just out here being very disrespectful, trolling the ship out of everybody. He pulled up to Nipsey's memorial, you know, at the next

Nipsey store. I had heard, Well, first of all, you know, what are your what is your take on like on that specific like like him coming out to l A and kind of just showing out. I know he's got And then I wanted to ask you a follow up? Did I just wanted to get your initials. It's expected for dudes who are looking for the limelight. Promotional tactic and stunts are heavy. Real niggas don't move like bullshit. Real niggas move like real niggas move. So that situation,

to me, is all about numbers. It's all about promotion. It's all about controversy, and when you got them three things, you'll stay in a motherfucker's mouth all day. Whether it's good or bad. They don't give a fuck. I've always been told promotion is promotion, whether it's good or bad. Motherfuckers is talking about you. Yeah, there's that cliche, bad press none none. So So look he comes out and he's the talk of the town. Now, nobody's really real

niggas are not worried about that situation. You got a lot of motherfucking people who feel that it's disrespectful whatever whatever. But on a real day, he's not gonna do that type of shit knowing that it's real niggas standing ground. I hear at like seven in the morning. Of course you do it. Like I said, it's all publicity, and I, like I said, I don't have nothing to say about dude. Dude do what he do. He try and make his money, that's his thing. It's all about the money. Let's let's

face it. It's all about the money with certain cats. It's not about being you know, lawyer or true or whatever. So I don't understand while a lot of motherfuckers are tripping off of the cat because it's all been that gimmeicky situation from the gate. From the gate, So don't be shocked by the antics you give me. It's just like a motherfucker who want to promote a movie and go downtown and sky dive off of the tallest building

or tight rope across or anything for promotion. Is to keep a motherfucker's name in people's mouths because the quieted you are and you don't talk about it, motherfucker gonna die away in the wind. So I have to keep my name in the public. So you do certain shit, you do dumb shit. Yeah, I was gonna say, because with someone like him coming to la obviously he's got a lot of security. Of course, I'm not sure if he had, like had to pay for any protection out

here or not. But do you think that like a lot of people, I know, I've spoken with a lot of a lot of homies that are are from out here. Who are you know some g's that like like six n kind of like do you think he kind of cracked the street code or maybe just it? I think he's the first person to like do what he's doing openly. There's been other snitches that are of course of course people, but like for him to be so outward with it, do you think he kind of cracked the street code?

And and do you think that like there's a way to move forward where because the snitch thing has always been that one code that is the unbreakable thing, right and still successful. He's calling people out like I mean, it's it's it's it's kind of crazy. But but you have to understand the snitch code. The snitch code stands for real niggas, right, it only stands for real niggas. Being glasses alone talked about that, like if you're like a civilian, if you're a if you're not mixed up

and ship, you should snitch. And then like if if something happens to you or you're a normal person, call the police. But if you're you know, g Malone, like, Nah, I'm not calling the police. I'm gonna handle my shit the way I handle my shit because because I this is my life, this is exactly your reputation is. Your life is at stake and your word is at stake. But why are people so like adamant to put the snitch jacket on motherfuckers who never was real from the

first place. That's where you getting shit confused. Don't give a fuck it. Stop looking at the money, the chains, the fucking streams and all that. Stop looking at that shit. A nigga was never real from the gate, So how can you put the code of you should follow it? Why because a motherfucker was hanging with street niggas and because a motherfucker was rapping what and they allowed that guy him. I mean, if you're gonna pay a motherfucker, then fine, if they gonna you know I and this

is coming from the niggas. Hell, Yeah, we're gonna let that nigga hang around us. If he's kicking up one hundred and fifty two hundred grand, we we think we not motherfucker, come hang, we benefiting from that's getting paid. Okay. But you gotta understand when you put a motherfucker in a situation and he's not real from the gate, it's gonna backfire. He's gonna tell on you. I mean, are you shouldn't be You get me, Just like with with

with my man George Floyd and the police brutality. Motherfucker's been doing that shit forever, okay, And I get it, and it's fucked up that my boy had to lose his life in that situation. But you shouldn't be surprised. And that's what gets me sometimes is when motherfucker's gone, oh no, I can't believe it. How you can't? This shit just happened last week around the corner, But it wasn't onna film. Mo. Fucker's never been real. Never, let me tell you some and this has been going on

since hip hopping money has been around. The more money you got, the more fucking courageous you feel. And that go with every fucking rapper. I don't give a fuck if you're a street rapper, and whether you a real motherfucker or you was the point dexter nigga in the crew. The minute you get bread in your pocket and chains and whatever and you fuck a couple of bitches, you're gonna start feeling like mighty man. I'm untouchable. I'm the

hardest nigg on the block. I'm the hardest nigga. But the first time a nigga tests your hardness, you fold. You're gonna tell. So we shouldn't be confused by the fact of what that situation is. You shouldn't. He's not he's not a niggas rapper. He's not my rapper. He's not your rapper, he's not whatever. Now he's like thirteen year old kids who like TikTok. Thank you. Yeah, Okay, don't get it confused, because a lot of motherfuckers are going,

so what he told? So what that's your kid in there vouching for him, because let me tell you, if you're a grown ass motherfucker and you banging that shit. Something is physically wrong. Something is physically wrong. Now, I get it. The little girls, the little the strip club girls who dance into his music, and the little kids who like the colorful and the hair, and I get it. I get it. But let's not be confused for a dude like me or a nip or you or whoever.

It's not my music, So let's not get confused about who vouches for my men. You give me a lot of youth, a lot of a lot of kids bumped that. And that's where you know, because you pick up your phone as a fifteen year old kid and go bingo. Because me now, as a grown ass man, I'm not picking up my phone going I'm finna download this shit and bumping in my car. Right, it's for the So you you have to you have to understand what the

situation is. And that's what I say about that. Disrespectful. Yeah, but you probably should expect that from those type of motherfuckers. You brought out the George Floyd thing you came up in La probably at the peak of like the lapd being just the worst, right, Obviously, what happened with Ronnie King kind of highlighted that on a bigger scale, But there was you know, like you said, that happened so

much that people just didn't see. What are some of your experiences growing up in Compton with the police, because I just remember watching uh boys in the hood or was it a menace? It was menace, but the cops were just pieces of ship in there, and I was definitely I mean, but ever since the days I could remember being a young cat growing up in Compton, it was normal. It was normal to the fact that you sort of expected it whenever you saw the police hit

your corner. If we were if we were hanging out in the neighborhood at the hood house and chilling and the police hit the block nine times out of ten, and they finna stop. You're finna be sitting on the curve and two or three of you is finna be going to jail for who knows what right? And then you might get punched up, You might get kicked up, you might wompy, won't you get thrown in the car? You go down to the holding tank, they hold you to two three o'clock in the morning, and they let

you go it's been going on ever since. You riding down Compton Boulevard and you pass them and they coming out of parking lot of off another street. As soon as you make that eye contact, they finna pull you over. Don't know shit, ain't ran a plate, don't know if you coming from work or school or whatever matter. If you fit the profile of niggas in Compton who gang bang from these neighborhoods, we're gonna pull you over. We're gonna harass jack, fuck you up, do whatever. And it's

a daily routine. So we might you might have had a billion complaints, but who gave a fuck? You get me, who gave a fuck Because we were just young niggas in Compton and we were in our own world and nobody gave a fuck outside of Compton what Compton PD did or whatever. It's something that we lived with and we dealt with. Was it wrong? Was it fucked up? Of course, but you just accepted it as the normal.

It's normal. It's just as normal as a motherfucker standing outside on this porch and a nigga hitting the block to do a drive by. It happens. Look where we had. It happens, which we got what we in Compton in this small little section and got about thirty different motherfucking gangs, niggas banging on every different street block, Park Avenue corner on top of that selling drugs. Yeah, so police dealt with us, how they dealt with us these everybody banging,

everybody selling drugs. So we're gonna go from neighborhood to neighborhood and we just fucking with niggas. That's what it took. Talk about how did you end up becoming involved with Minister Society One of the best, you know, just one of one of my favorite movies ever, but obviously one of the the best, you know, movies that kind of depicted exactly we had just came off of Colors, you know, Ice Tea Colors and whatever, and then Cube did Boys

in the Hood. Then they had South Central with Glenn Plummer, and then Tupac had went over and did fucking Juice. So those movies were going around. So you had two young cats out of La the Hughes brothers who wrote this movie. You know, they went to film school all that, they had did a lot of Tupac's videos. Brenda had a baby holler if you hear me a lot of his first videos, the Hughes brothers did, so they got this script. They took it to New Line. New Line

liked it. Knewing they had a relationship with Pac. You know, they felt like, okay, y'all pop bingo, there's minutes to Society and uh, you know, shit happened with Pac whatever. He didn't make the film, but it was still a good film. Uh. They called me up like, hey, we was looking for a character. I think they were trying to get Wren to do it too. Soren had read. I read for it. I guess they liked it, you know my reading. They called me back. I didn't really

think of it. Like I said, I'm still a niggah in the neighborhood. I think I just dropped music to drive by. So I was still on my banging shit with the music and the records and whatever. So I really didn't think nothing about it. And then movies, I'm like, that's Cube and Tupac shit. And then Reren was n w A, I'm just MC eight from compus most wanted I'm here, you know, So I'm like, the niggas ain't

gonna give me no part. And then my motherfucking manager called me one day and say because I was on tour, he called me and said, you gotta come back to La because they gave you the part. And then that's when I met Jada and Tyrant and Lorenz and like I said, Pak was there in the first couple of reasons because he was still in the movie. So it was a good career lifter for me, and for the fact that it dealt with actual shit that was going

on in La Compton. So I think that movie kind of generated a following to where it was a good coat classic because it really showed what was going on niggas in the projects or whatever. And then for me, who had been in similar situations, it just kind of it just kind of kind of meshed, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's crazy too because obviously your role in that movie was kind of like the down ass big homie. Yeah, the motherfucker who doesn't been there, don't

seen it. I dodnet been in and out of jail. I done grew up in the neighborhood, so I know that shit to get in and not into. And it's just like any any niggas neighborhood who grow up and who's claiming the neighborhood. You always got that one motherfucker that's been through a lot of shit and who could tell you a lot of shit about being from the neighborhood and representing and whatnot in the pitfalls of it.

So a lot of people don't know Tupac's original like, like, you know, suppose supposed to be involvement in that movie. What was like he was supposed to be in the movie. Originally Tupac was supposed to play Sharif. Okay, so my boy Vonte Sweet ended up playing them. But that's the role that they wanted him to play. And he didn't, you know, POC coming off of Juice and Poetic Justice and then you know his records or whatever, he was

a very vocal, you know, up front motherfucker. Pop was wasn't the type of nigga to play the back role or to play to just innocent bystand or the conservative nigga. He was the forefront and he wanted to express that. So he wanted to kind of express why he was being the Muslim kid or the one the voice of reason. He wanted to depict that and show why. And I don't think they wanted to show that, and that's what made the movie for his situation kind of fall apart,

because you know, Pak's very adamant. I don't give a fuck. I need motherfuckers to know why I turned into the well I do kill a bunch of niggas or somebody killed my mama and I went chopped they head off of some shit show why I'm this person now? And they didn't want to do it, so it kind of went to a bumping head situation to where you know, everybody know what happened with him and the Huge brothers, and that was the result of the bumping heads at

the fucking table. Did you and Poc have a solid relationship? I was cool with Pap. We did a couple of shows together. You know, he used to bang my records when he was, you know, locked up, So we had a relationship to where when we saw each other it was mutual respect. You feel me, yo, You you know what Compton's most wanted music to drive By obviously a

West Coast classic. Talk about like, I feel like there was the culture of the drive By shooting back then, right, I feel like that's something that really became prevalent in La and oh definitely was related to directly related to the gang shit that was going on during that time.

Do you remember like when that started to become something to really worry about, because I'm assuming it it became like it seemed like at a certain point in time, it was just kind of the normal, right like yeah, like you said earlier, it was kind of between Like for me, I I just know that in between the period of like eighty nine and like ninety three, niggas was game hard, like hard hard like even before then, if you want to say, like eighty seven eighty six,

everybody was gang and it was rough gang banging, like it wasn't like, oh okay, now you'll see crips and bloods in the same place, shaking hands, getting money together. And not that niggas wasn't doing it. Back then. You had certain niggas who could do that. You had certain OG's who could maybe pull up in a blood neighborhood and get out and talk to niggas like that. But for me, niggas was on the kill war path back then. So drive bys was real heavy around that time, like shit,

maybe every other day niggas was getting smoked. And then everybody had pistols back in. Niggas is breaking in the gun shops and surtpluses instilling. Especially when the raid happened, Niggas is breaking in the surtplus stores and dealing guns. So now everybody weapons, and when everybody got guns, I'm talking about it. Don't even need to motherfucker do a drive by by itself. And I've known a lot of niggas who do it. Fuck it, I think I'm getting in my car at night and going to hit them

niggas like it was. It was just not to say it was the thing, but it was happening to where mama's was sleeping on the floors and putting their kids on the floors at night because guaranteed somebody's getting drawn somebody coming through tonight, definitely, And it was a you know, niggas didn't just shoot up innocently. But like I said, drive bys was very heavy around that time. I think too,

something from the outside looking in. If someone's watching this that isn't from LA and doesn't understand the way that LA politics work. A lot of people just always associate crips and bloods is beefing right, right, But it's more of a neighborhood thing. Yeah, I mean because there's there's crip sets beef with each other. Yeah, you got crips.

And then especially if you have large sets, you know, especially if you have large crip sets who have multiple streets and multiple blocks, so you know, you got crips from this block who might not get along with the crips ten blocks down, even though they're all from the same neighborhood. I mean even even where I represent it from, there were different streets. You had this, you had thick Coradon, you had one hundred and fifty third, you had bar Clay,

you had Taper. All these streets are in one neighborhood, but different crews hang on these different streets, so you could have beef with a nigga from across the street who's from your same neighborhood. A lot of that went on. Then you had crips who beefed with crips, you know, crip sets who beef with other crip sets and so on. So how big of a deal was it? Because I know, you know, when Nipsey died, it just it really fucked man,

fucked me up. I'm gon Nippur. Since so nine and you know, but when he passed away, big U had kind of helped put together that day of unification where everybody pulled up, you know, on that intersection, and it was like it was I didn't realize the significance of how big of a deal it was that a lot of those people were in the same place in a peaceful manner because a lot of a lot of neighborhoods beef and have been beefing for decades, like and I

put it to the motherfucking analysis of the hat Fields and the McCoy's right, you go, you got niggas who was beefing before you was even born. So it's that tradition of beefing. And it's just like, damn y'all was standing in the same spot as them niggas. Y'all ain't killing them niggas for decades, you get me, and vice versa. So that basically Nips pass and sort of represented trying to unify a right niggas on the aspect of not just are you from over here, I'm from over here.

Fuck you, fuck you? You know it kind of it kind of led to the to the place of trying to show that niggas don't have to kill niggas just over bullshit. I get it. Y'all represent there, we represent here. But this was a dude who basically tried to fuck with everybody, whether it was crip, whether it was blood, whether you was from the enemy neighborhood from fifteen years ago,

or whether whatever. I tried to fuck with everyone. So that's to me what that represent as far as big you and nipping them and him passing and everybody trying to show unification together, it was to show that the outside world sees is just vicious motherfuckers, gang banging ass vicious drive by killing motherfuckers, and it's bigger than that,

or it's what it's beyond. So coming together shows people that these motherfuckers that y'all look at as these vicious motherfuckers can can set aside their beasts from long standing. And some niggas might not even know why we beef. You get me. I just started gaging backing, and I know we hate them niggas over there. I'm not old

enough to know what we beefing about. But all I know is the minute I started claiming over here, we cross out them niggas and we say fuck them and the funny thing about it is six years ago, I was in the same class as that motherfucker nigga. We was playing kickball together outside and whatever. So it just showed that we can set aside bullshit for a mother for my nigga who was already on that aspect, like I got. I know where I'm from, but I got no problem with you, my nigga. If you ain't got

no problem with me. I understand what happened back then, and I would never to live that ship down and I will always know where I come from. But motherfucker, if you want to give me on the song your blood, hell yeah, let's do it right. You want me, you want to beat from me, or want me to come to your video, or we know how to get money, or we can do this together. Man, that's gonna be

better for you and me in the long run. You give me talk about a lot of newer rap fans might have just heard you for the first time on Good Kid, Mad City Right, which is one of the greatest hip hop albums ever. Shout out to Kendrick, Shout out to Shout out to Kendrick, Shout out to Kendrick, Shout out the top Dog Dre. Just that that record is like just the way it switches up and then you come in it's like, oh yeah, that was that man.

That was probably one of the things that was probably one of the best, you know, guest appearances I've done, or working with Kendrick, because my dude know what he wanted, he ad, he sees his vision, he sees his direction, and he came about it a different approach than what we usually used to as far as West Coast artists who come from that situation, you know, poverty, you know,

gang banging. We usually turn out the cmw's, the NWA's, the cubes, the whatever, and he was able to take it to a different level, almost like from the perspective of the kid who grows up in that I grew up everybody know anything around me. Everybody's selling dope, my brother, my uncle mat shit, and I am the straightforward kid. But I'm still here so I get to witness everything.

Not that I'm a part of it, because even though I don't have to say it, they gonna protect me or they gonna affiliate me with over here or whatever. But I'm just a kid on the straight path who see the pitfalls and I'm trying to avoid that. So soon as I hooked up with him, he knew what he wanted, he knew where he wanted to go. How I wonder he was telling me, shit, I want you to do this, I want you to do this, I want you to do that, and you gotta respect the

motherfucker like that. He didn't come into the game playing with nothing. I'm not gonna play around with this shit. Were you like aware, because obviously at that point in time, Kendrick was definitely buzzing Drea. He a Section eighty already came out. I wasn't aware of Kendrick at all, So you weren't aware of like the magnitude of like, yo, this shit is. I started fucking with Kendrick because my son's sister knew of him, and she called me and said they were trying to get in contact with me.

I didn't know anything about Kendrick. I didn't know about Section eighty, none of that of that shit. And it was just like, I mean, my son's sister called me and said, eight, this guy named Kendrick, he's messing with

Dre blah blah blah. They want to get you on the song, and I was like, yeah, okay, what was it that did, because you know, there's so many iconograppers from Compton, but I thought it was so dope that he put you on that record because it wasn't like expected, and it was very like I'm pretty sure it wasn't expected from anyone. I remember I saw that. I was like, oh shit, this got MC eight on the fucking album

about Copton, like Jesus Christ. Like I said, I didn't even, I didn't even I put nothing to it when I came. When I showed up at the studio, I mean, we recorded the song in Carson, right at the spot. So I just looked at it as my niggas one of these up and coming rappers. He got skills and blah blah. And then I think the minute after I recorded the song, I went home that night and then everything was Kendrick, Kendrick, Kendrick,

whoa damn. I'm like, oh, he signed to Dre and kunti wom And then next day, you know, Aftermath hit me and Top Dog and Punch and niggas was like hey, and I was like, they was like, you know, you the only motherfucker who got to be on the record. You Drake, and I think Mary J. That was it. They didn't let anybody else on the record, so I was like, whoa, okay, so good look. That's why I said good looking Drake td all that, because he could

have chose anybody, especially with Dre behind him. You know, Dre would be like, I don't want that motherfucker. Wont that. But when they said Dre said fuck it cool. I just looked at it as they looked at it, as I was a nigga coming from Compton who my whole career, I was just one path. I didn't try to go here, hear come here or here. I just stuck to see him w type of shit, the neighborhood whatever. So that

song was perfect to try to throw me on. I also feel like it was a dope homage to your career because you're somebody who is very underappreciated in the grand scheme of when we discussed West Coast hip hop. Oh definitely, you're very underrated. Your catalog is you know, fire, and I feel like that was a dope like tip to what you've been doing. I took that from his point of view as well. I looked at it as you know, he respected true West Coast hip hop, and

coming from Compton, you know we got Dre. We got you know, quick as there, you know. So I'm like, but I've always stuck to that, you've been I've always been consistent with what I do. So coming from Compton to pay, I'm like, he's already fucking with Dre, you know what I'm saying. So I just looked at it like, yeah, let's get somebody that we feel has always represented the city of Compton, always been consistent and like you said, underrated and don't get that much shine and pay a mont.

So I didn't even I didn't even question money or anything when they hit me up. I just went to the studio. I wasn't like, oh, well he signed to Dre, how much y'all going to pay me? And all that. I went to the studio, dropped the verse, shook my nigga hand, and we bounced, and I think I heard from them like three months later, and they was like Dre and aftermath, and I was like, whoa, this is gonna be some big ship fire. So we're gonna do the very first bathroom break in the blutleg Cap podcast

history because I'm about to piss on myself. I'm gonna hit this restaurant real quick. Back at it, you know, shout out to you for not smoking Backwoods like everybody else. Right, Oh yeah, man, Backwoods fucked me up. Man, I don't know why niggas got on the backwoods the fucking wave now, yeah, that everybody smoking Backwoods. I'm like, I can't do it, man, I can't. You talked about obviously Dre being involved in Good Kid, Mad City, Dre being the you know, the

consensus Compton guy across the country. You know when we think of Compton, like he's probably the first rapper that the world thinks. So did you and Dre ever have any sort of dialogue or like, what was y'all's dynamic coming up? Because obviously you were a factor and he was Dra that guy Dre was. Dre has always has

been a cool motherfucker to me. I mean, I've never, you know, had the pleasure outside of fucking with Kendrick, of fucking with Dre big mad respect, because you know, he's one of the he's he's as the best motherfucker as far as what he do. You get me, shaw, anybody who would be you know, gifted with a dre track or just fucking emphasis or just the input of telling you which way to go would be a motherfucking

the greatest. But uh, we've always had good report I mean every time I would see him out in public or go to parties or whatever whatever, we've always laughed and chuckled and been cool, you know. So you know, Primo fucked with him a lot, you know, so he Primo would go over and tell him, you know, fucking with eight and we worked and so always good shit, always good shit talk about So the new album is

Primo the executive producer. Essentially Primo executive produced record. We did a record two years ago called which Way Is West Right? He executive produced. He you know, had a lot of input, you know, his label. So on this record it was basically the focus on me trying to get you know, ride the wave of trying to you know, continue what I've been doing for shit the last twenty years. So he's been a consultant on the record, you know, Like I said, I sent him all the beats, I

sent him all the tracks. He listens to him, you know, gives me advice on what not to do or maybe you need to do this or maybe do this one. On his song, he mixes the song, so he always has an input. When I put out records, I try to include him because, like you said, he's one of the great producers. He's dealt with a lot of different diverse artists, so he has a great ear. So yeah,

one of the best years ever. And and it's crazy because working with like I feel like Griselda and what Conway and Westside Gun and Benny are doing right now is like some of my favorite shit going on in hip hop. Like they're doing that traditional shit. Yeah. How do you think a traditional greedy rap and grimy shit? Yeah, that's what you hear when you hear them. Yeah. Now, I was gonna say, like, how how tapped in are you with the new ship that's happening, because obviously I

listened to a lot. Like I said, I got sixteen year old son, right shout out. Karan plays football quarterback. He always he Now he be up on all y'all shit, right, I tell him I'm going to bootleg cav Oh my god, I got to go take me. So he's a sixteen year old kid, so he's up on all the new ship. I mean, what a young boy, little Dirk fucking g Herbo right right, he listens to it all and he loves it. Yo' It's dope too because you actually you

d m me your ship. Not a lot of artists are like on top of their ship, like I was like, oh ship, of course, Like I'm one motherfucker who And I know a lot of people don't do it because they bought people on the side. And I even got people, you know, sometimes you got to get people on your team that and whatever. But I'm a type of motherfucker that I hit you up personally. I don't I don't play that all. You know, it's just somebody running your page or I handle all my ship. I answer all

my fans, I deal with you know. That's how I stay working. I mean, I do a million verses a week because I'm able to connect with motherfuckers. I don't just be like, oh, I got my cousin running my page and whatever. Dude, send me emails, respond, dude, send me dms if it's business or even sometimes motherfuckers just

want to say hey, y'all. Get a lot of motherfuckers that just be like, man, I just wanted to tell you you you the shit or I love your shit, and I'll respond right back jeh or cool or good looking or whatever. And I ain't trying to hold a conversation with you. But I have the enough respect for fans to at least give them that, you know what I'm saying, a lot of dudes, I get it. They don't want to deal with motherfuckers. You know, I'm too big, I don't want to respond whatever, whatever. But me, I

don't give a fuck how big you are. You gotta connect with the motherfuckers that're spending their money. Yeah, that's They're the reason why you have a man. Come on, man, you gotta connect with the motherfuckers whether and I get it. Some motherfuckers be irritating too, Definitely. Some motherfuckers be irritating. They ask the stupidest questions and just shit, and you have to sit there sometime and be like, but I still deal with it. It's it's the situation that I

put myself in, so to speak. I had to tell I had to gift to right and and whatever and make records and whatever. And with that, you were you're gain fans. Let me ask you something. You're you're beef with Quick, which I know you've talked about to the Death Right. Anybody who wants to kind of dive into that. There's plenty of content out there of you talking about

what happened. Do you think that you and and Quick's beef resulted in because every time something like that happens, people choose sides like do you think it it resulted in you losing any opportunities or like you losing out on anything because people might have like chosen up or perceived you a certain way during that during that period. I've never looked at it like that because I've always

looked at myself as the underground kid. I've never looked at myself as the kid that the motherfuckers would want to come to period. And I always accepted that and erased it. I never felt like, oh shit, this motherfucker getting this and I ain't getting it. I've never felt that, never, because at the end of the day, I can make some money. I love to write and do hip hop. My bills is paid, boom, my kids ain't starving and ain't struggling and don't have fucking holy shoes and looking

for a handout. I'm fine. I've had opportunities that came along that fit me. I mean, I had the Boys in the Hood soundtrack, I had Minister so Society and a role Thicker than Water with mac Tin came along. Forgot about that. I was nominated for a Grammy with with Kendrick for the song should have won that Grammy. Yeah, yeah, but you get but you get it, you know. But

I've always embraced my position in hip hop and I'm cool. Well, when you when you with anything right, when you look at other people and you try to judge your own happiness based on what other people are doing, that's where you get fucked up. Man. That's how motherfuckers become depressed and they become on sure them, you come up if

you do that. If I start going damn, how come I ain't like Snoop or how come Snoops rapped the same ship I was rapping, Or how come I'm not like Kendrick or Quick, or I've never done that because I never felt like that when you heard uh, man, I'm not gonna lie. Some of those Quick records were vicious on some on some rapping ship, like when He's the one line that stuck out to me when I was the E. I h T Now should I continue? You left out the G because the G EIGHTN you

you heard that? What was were you like, man, fuck this for? Were you like it's hip hop? Were you like, yo, that was a nice bar you have to come with good lines and hip hop. Did you at least like respect his like like, I don't think when you beefing with cats that you look at him as far as oh whatever, you know? But I was never like, oh, I'm finna just blow the fuck up because a motherfucker

I looked at it this hip hop banter. Could you at least acknowledge like, okay, quick, I got something for you, or like, yeah, that line was kind of That was a cool line. I've always felt like in a hip hop perspective, I've always felt that's just like a motherfucker saying that I don't think I'm number one, I'm number two or number two. You always give yourself the credit of whatever. So in a hip hop world, because I never took shit on record personally, so yeah, good line.

When niggas would be like, oh that was womty womb I said from hip hop respective yeah, it was a good line. I mean just like motherfuckers would say, oh, what you said was all killer or whatever whatever, and I say, it's all in the aspect of trying to be clever. When you trying to dis some motherfucker, you can't dis some motherfuck on the weak shit. I tell niggas today, I've been dissed by some of the best niggas. So if you're gonna dis me, you at least got

to come with something correct. Don't come with no weak shit, because then what's the point, right, that's facts? Man. Yeah, Now we're just people just make Instagram videos about each other. I mean, shit, motherfucker make an Instagram video or do some dumb shit or whatever. But like I said, we came from the class of writing was everything. Man, your

pen game. Man, you're a fuck about to beat man, you gotta write some shit because let's face, a lot of niggas had some whack ass motherfucking tracks back in the days too, but they fucking penmanshit was just great. Like you'd be like, God, damn man, how do he come up with that shit? So we prided ourselves on writing, so you had to come up with clever ship who else on the new album? Outside we know Conway Primo,

who else? Conway Primo, Dave East Uh, Tahaled is on the new album Havoc, my deepest on the new album, Uh Corrupt, Uh Noble from the Outlaws, Uh Cocaine, Coe Yup Mouth, Mitchie Slick shout out to San Diego man. Who else we got my girl Cherrell, Terry Chill from CEM dub who else is on the record? Be Real? A lot of legends on this. Yeah, that's what I try to do, a mix, you know, Conway, Dave East, Uh, and then I, you know, go back to people I admired, Havoc, Corrupt,

fucking Noble, be Real. Me and be Real have done songs, you know, as far as back to prelude to a come up on the Cypress Hill record, and then me and mugs used to fuck around soul assassins whatever. So again, be Real. I feel like there's like a class of just West Coast guys who don't get enough acknowledgment. B Real is one of them. You're one of them, Spice One, Like there's a lot of guys. Yeah, definitely Spice One. Brother Lynch hung shout out, Brother Lynch, shout out to Uh.

We talked about King t earlier Exactly, there's a lot of the licks alcohol alcohol. It's a lot of underground heroes here as far as West Coast is concerned. And you know, not to take away from nothing from Dre or Snoop or Cube because that helps us as far as the West Coast is concerned. People stayed with the identity of WEG Coast. But we've had a lot of

We've had a lot of motherfuckers also too. Like even in the in the two early two thousands, there was just like a whole other offshoot of underground hip hop coming out of LA that wasn't like dilated people's exactly, Jurassic five, Uh shout out to uh Plant Planet Asia, Roscoe, Cali Agents. There was like there was like a whole dope. I just remember, like I call it the fat beat shit,

right right right, Yeah, the fat Beat shit. Yeah. We had a lot of But like I said, we don't get a lot of recognition over in the West Coast, which is sad, but we have cats who will still love hip hop. Yeah, and they still no matter where you are on that totem pole, just keep fucking climbing. That's how I look at it. Fuck it if you old, if you ain't old enough and you get no back spasms and shit, and your legs ain't cramping up, fucking keep climbing the pole and shit. Because there's a lot

of good music that's being offered. Would you ever do another compious most wanted album? Yeah? I did a conscience most one. Me and Chill did a record. We put it out independently. Last I want to say September. It's called Gangster Business. Okay, if you ain't heard about it, go peep it out. Some nice songs on there for sure. Just trying to warn people back up to getting back out there. So you've been active, man, Like I remember the premo shit, and then I mean how many? How

many songs are on this album? Twenty twenty is a little twenty piece. I got a record I just dropped in February called Official. It's a double album, twenty seven songs. So that's got a song on there with exhibiting problem called Profiles. I've just been working, man, I've been working, just trying to stay working, stay active. We know what the coronavirus bullshit. They shut a lot of shit down, but it's the perfect time for cats. Like myself to

stay active and working. You know, we wasn't big on touring anyway and whatever, So this is the perfect time to be reintroduced to some of those younger fans or some of the people who just appreciate good hip hop fucking music. You give me and the album comes out win September nineteenth eighteenth. Lessons lessens, the album, lessens the album.

The single Hancho should be touching down next week. Videos done you shout video videos done to Hancho with Conway and we shot a video to the song called Cordy and with Davies. Shout out to Davis Man and shout hey man, I appreciate you for pulling up and go get the album official. Perfect