#157 - Denzel Curry

your team last year. But did you have like an injury or something? Like did you did you like hurt some part of your body or something? And I mean I got an injury now. I know you got injury now, but this was probably like back in like twenty nineteen then, probably because I did have a crazy injury then because that's when I was on tour with Billy Eilish and shit, I think that's what it was. Yeah, how's how is that touring with Billy Eilish. Well, Billy Eilisch, that's my dog.

You know, she seems super chill. Oh she's cool as fuck, But like, what is that like because you're your stage presence is insane. Your music is extremely like I feel like it's built for like live environments, right, But that's a different type of vibe, right man, it's a lot of little girls. The whole thing with the Billie Elis tour. It just opened my eyes to like what I could

possibly be doing, you know. So what I mean by that is like I was doing venues and clubs and stuff like that, and you know, that's pretty much easy for me, very successfully. I might add, yeah, thank you, thanks, But when I got to do those arenas, it was different. I see what Kanye West was talking about when he went on tour with YouTube, like he wanted to make

music for like arenas and shit like that. So with her giving me the opportunity to open up for her own tour, I felt like that was gangster because I never heard my music in that kind of environment before. So it made me look at my music differently. It made you kind of like I feel like there is there is a such thing as like making music for renus like we think of like people are like, yo, this is a festival record. This is gonna go crazy

in front of at Coachella. Like so now when you go in and you record certain records, you'll have that in mind because you've actually been through it. Yeah, I mean a lot of that shit is like synth heavy

and bass heavy, you know what I'm saying. And I just want to be able to have the crowd singing my lyrics because to be honest with you, like I'll be rapping fast and then I'll be saying big words and people like, I'll give you all these type of metaphors and sometimes it hit and sometimes it miss and people be like, what the fuck you talking about? Denzel? You know, it's never like real straight up. But with just me working now, I feel like melody is always

gonna win. Like we know songs just based off the melody like ABCD or you know all that shit. You can hum it and you'll be like, I know what that is? You No twinkle twinkle, a little starry, same shit? How would someone hum ultimate? So was Billy Elis just a fan of you? And like what like was it her idea? Like how did that happen? Because that's kind of she's young, you know, all right? It happened in twenty sixteen, fyf that's when she came to my show

for the first time. I'm like one of her favorite rappers, Okay, And I didn't even know I was one of her favorite rappers until she told me in twenty seventeen, because that's where we've met officially. And the first time we met, we was at the studio. We was, you know, supposed to work on the record. It was me, her and Phineas, and we didn't even make a record. We were just cracking jokes the whole time we went to go get

a side boat, go eat. We were just you know, talking to each other, just you know, just cutting up. Then our relationship started to build more and more over time is you know, as time progressed and shit, And basically you know, she came to the studio and worked on Sirens, which is with me and Jed on a taboo on record. Yeah, you know, shout out to Billy. Yeah.

She seems to be like someone who's like, despite all the fame and being one of the biggest, you know, pop stars in the world, she seems pretty like every time I see her talking or doing an interviews, she seems like a humble, cool chick. Bro. She's down to earth as fuck, and I think she wears Jinkos, which is awesome. I don't even know what that is. But Jinko pants, Jinko. You don't remember Jinko. How old are you well, dude, yeah, twenty seven, Yeah, you don't remember Jinkos.

Here's the thing, man, I mean pockets. Juggalos used to wear them. Oh you talk about like insaaning clomba posse type shit. No, you don't remember the Jinko pants, huge legs and the pockets were like the size of this TV oll. No oh man, no, b there was in Florida wearing them somewhere. I wasn't wearing them. They're probably wearing them in the middle of flo Like Pole County had them for sure. You know what I'm saying, I don't know about not Dad County, not Dade County. Yo.

You are a pioneer, though. I want to give you love because I would always be interviewing some of these. Uh. You know, I feel like sou South Florida in general has really had its its moment. It's still happening, but it kind of really kicked off like where nationally, like some of the bigger artists were all from you know, obviously Kodak Black is one of those guys ex little Pump.

You know, we can go on and on and on, but I do feel like you and uh, the Raider Clan really kicked off that entire just that whole entire wave out of South Florida. I mean, of course, and I'm gonna give a respect. Whereas dude, you know, like Space goes Perp really was like the driving force for that ship at the time when he first came out and him and Rocky was running together until the beef happened.

But when it came down, the Raider Clan and the whole aesthetic and everything before we disbanded, like we was really trying to bombard the industry on some shit like when we was young and we was all in high school at the time, Like y'all laid the roots for all this other shit that's going on, you know what I'm saying. For sure, of course all that shit came from us. Yeah, one hundred percent. And yeah, you definitely

you need to get to get your flowers fat. Yeah, it's crazy because when you think about it, we were just talking about it yesterday, The Asap Rocky Space goes Perp thing, such an unfortunate thing. Because it's like, what what if that never would have happened? Like you know what I'm saying, Like, man, listen, if that would have never happened, you know, we probably would have had a stronghold on the game right now, you know what I'm saying, because we was like the driving force of the culture,

both Raider Clan and a Sap. Yeah, and a lot of the aesthetic and a lot of the vibe. I feel like that Rocky had for the Asap Mob, you know, was heavily influenced by the Raider Clan shit as well. Yeah, I mean when it came down to everything that was going on, and then you know when Purp and Rocky was going through it and shit, and you know, black Land Radio six six point six did come out before I heard Live Love a Sap or Paxos. You get what I'm saying. So I still have respect for Rocky.

I still respect Rocky to this day. You get what I'm saying. But I give credit where on credit is due. If it wasn't for Purp and it wasn't for Raider Clan, I want to have a platform to be Denzel Curry. You feel what I'm saying, right, So, I'm gonna always give respect to that, regardless of what the fuck me and this nigga Purp go through, right, you know what I mean? What's your relationship? Like, what is Purp up to? Do you do you have a relationship with him anymore?

I don't know. I don't talk to food like that. He don't talk to me. I don't talk to him, but we still you know, he'll big me up and then he'll disrespect me in the same week. Yeah, you know, but it's all love from my point, and I hope

it's all love from him, and it is what it is. Well, I was telling you this, man, I do feel like for us, you're you're very successful, but I still feel like somehow you're like underappreciated in the industry because I feel like you're one of the most versatile rappers artists period in the last decade or so, you know, Like listening to I just listened to your well ninety nine percent of your new album, I'm like, man, like the shit that you can do between melodies, between the fast

rap shit, between the boom bab shit. It's there's just not a lot of people who can cover all those bases and cover them very well and organically, if that makes sense. Well, a lot of that shit get lost in translations because I'm not popular. If you want to be real, you know what I'm saying, Like, you're not pop music. Yeah, I'm not pop music, So you got to really dig into crevice to be like, oh, I listened to Denzel Curry, like, you know, my music was

catered to a niche crowd. You dig yeah, and me when it comes down to this album, I just want everybody. It doesn't matter if you're a Denzel Curry fan or not. I want you to feel that shit period. Is this the first album that you took that approach with? Yeah, I took my feelings first before I took me what I was gonna think about rapping about it was my feelings, Like whatever I felt, I know people have the same feelings, so I'm gonna write what I feel instead of writing

what I know. I like that. I like that. I would just learn that you do muay Thai. Yeah, you've been doing it since twenty seventeen. But if a little bit of background, keV a lot of my brothers, Like my brothers, you know, been in the streets and shit like that. I'm the only one out of my brothers that never been a jet you know what I'm saying. I lost one of my brothers. But the brother I did lose, he was a backyard fighter back in the

day with like Kimbo Slice and then got our five thousand. Yeah, and all them videos are crazy. And that was all in Miami. Yeah, And there was a movie that he was in called Dog Fights. So I'm just letting you putting you up on game. And I was also in the movie too, but that was like twelve year old Denzel. And if you go on YouTube to this day and you look up like fights like Level Martinez versus Alfonso

and all those bad fights, you know, crazy. If you look at Tree versus Mike, you gonna see me there in a white tea holding a camera up. She used to be in the backyard. I used to be in the backyard like dead ass, like I'm not even gonna sit here in lots of How would they organize those things because bruh, Like my brother would just come in the room and he'd be like, Hey, you want to come over here and see me fight? And I'm like, I you know, I would go there. It'll be in Paran.

In the middle of Paran. It'll be a little greenhouse and a big ass backyard, and they were check you at the gate to see if you got guns, knives, whatever. And if you got guns and knives whatever, you gotta go put that shit in your car. And then you come in. They check kids too, so you going there, you know what I'm saying. And there'd be a ring in there. At first, it was like a box ring at first. He didn't have no ring at all. Some of the videos there was just there's just no ring. Yeah,

it was just people crowding around. At first they didn't have a ring. Then they had a ring, then they had an octa gun, then they had a triangle that was like the final you know. And just being back there and just watching all these fights, you hearing the beef go down with people and shit, you know, and you're just like, Yo, what the fuck is going on? Like you see a big guys, dude, like I'm gonna get you, nigga, I'm gonna get Like what the fuck?

Like right, yeah, And I'm twelve years old looking at all this shit, like Yo, this is like some real fighting shit, Like there's some real tournament shit, and I'm watching people get knocked the fuck out. I'm watching blood just gushing just out of my brother's nose. Did your brother ever fight Kimbo? Nah? Hell, Kimbo was already like in a UFC around this time. I mean, but Dada was Dada and Kimbo used to roll with each other until they kind of fell out, you know what I'm saying.

And around that time it was just Dada and what Dada was doing in the backyards. But Kimbo was before that, you know what I mean. So you know, long lived Kimbo, you feel me. So that was kind of the origins of your that got you interested in learning how to fight. I mean, I had to learn how to fight. I had too many brothers to not know how to fight. How many brothers do you have, Well, one of them pasted. It was four of us. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

And were you the youngest, I'm the youngest. Oh yeah, I mean you got to learn that. I gotta learn how to fight. I was like, like, he is getting bullied outside of the house and getting bullied inside the house. So I had to learn how to fight either way to go. So in twenty seventeen. You take a muy Thai, Yeah, what kind of give us the rundown on like just the muay Thai shit because you were you're very passionate about it. Well, I don't think a lot of people

know because you was You're very you know your shit, man. Well, when it comes down to muy time, man, I like, well, I stopped smoking weed right, And this was back in twenty seventeen. I felt like my life was gonna be boring because I wasn't like smoking right, and then I was like, you know, might as well start drinking too, So I just looked up. I remember I was doing martial arts with my brothers and stuff like that when

I was younger. So I'm like, you know, when I find a time, you know, if I get enough money, I'm just gonna go back into martial arts. And I said that when I first started rapping shit, because I stopped doing it. And then next thing, you know, I was like, Oh, there's a multi place right down the street. It was five Star Martial Arts. Go there. I signed up, got signed me up. I looked at the class and then I went in the next day, started doing it, got my girl to do it. And then I just

kept doing it ever since. And it's been five years, right, it's been five years. I can't train, not because I got a tour in ACL but like is it like do you get belts? Like what's your belt level? Well, in Thailand they don't really have a ranking system. Okay, you know what I'm saying, because they've been doing it since they was kids, pug but that's like cut off like addresses, that's what they will wear before they go.

It's like it brings us a good luck. But in like the ranking system at the school they will ranking, like how they will rank jiu jitsu? You get know what I'm saying. You start off white, you know, you might get a stripe. You might end up at blue. You might get a stripe, you might end up at purple, you might get a stripe. You might end up at brown, and then all the way to black, like brown to black. You feel me how people rank their schools differently though?

How far would you take them? Thing? Because we know got like, you know, we got a friend d Smoke who was like a semi professional boxer before you really started popping as a rapper, So like would you like, how far would you take it. I mean I wanted to compete, to be honest, I wanted to compete to see what my skill level was at, you know, to see if I'm pretty, you know, see where I'm at, and see where I need to improve on, you know

what I mean. But that's how far I was willing to take it, like to do a couple of matches, but other than that, it was just I just like doing it for my sanity to be real. It's like it's almost like therapy. Have you been to Thailand? Yes? How was that? Taland's dope? It's like very did you go out there and like watch Muay Thai like And it's because you know, you see these like YouTube videos like the Multai fights and Thailand me like Loupini Stadium

stuff like that. Shit sook crazy though. Yeah, I mean I haven't been able to do that. But my boy Kashan, he been trying to get me to go to go back to Thailand and like go to the gyms, because you got to know somebody to have that connection to the gym to get in there. Yeah, I mean it's open, but you gotta I would much rather know somebody who's been there before. I know these gyms and you know what I'm saying and just pull up. Yeah, now that's dope man. You also obviously are a big UFC fan.

Oh hell yeah, who's your like? If you had to give me your goat? Like top three fighters ever ever since since you've been watching, since I've been watching. All right, I gotta put and the Silva in now. And the guyho broke his leg right, yeah, he broy he raws. Fuck. This is gonna be controversial. I'm gonna put John Jones up there. Shout out to John Jones. He loves cocaine. Cannot cannot shout out John. This is documented by the and as of right now recently Style Style Bender. Yeah,

those my three. But when it comes down to like overall, like I have a lot of favorite fighters that are like in a women's division, it's Valentina Shipchenko, like she'd be fucking people up. Like there was a match where she was fucking lady up so bad. I was waiting for the referee to stop it. The man would not stop it. It took her to choke the girl out. Some of those are her to stop for him to stop the match. I forget which which female fight it was that I think it was last year, the year

before where the girl's head was lumped. Oh yeah remember that? Hell yeah, I was like, oh wait, wait this happened last year, right, Yeah, I was actually at that fight. I know this happened two years ago. Yeah, it was like it was like a year or two ago. Yeah, it happened in twenty twenty before the whole pandemic. Yo, that was while he's saying versus Joe Wan and Joe Jake check, I remember that fight. I was dead that fight. I was watching that fight. Her head was I was like,

there is she gonna be all right? Like yo, she was Okay, that went back to normal. But that was one of the best fights I've ever seen in the women's division ever. That shit's crazy. That kind of head trauma can't be I don't know, man, That's why I mean I think, like, uh, I feel like fighters peaks are usually shorter than like any other type of athlete. You know, you'll you'll, yeah, there's a lot of wear

and tear on your box like a short peak. Like even if you can think of like Connor McGregor, like what he probably have like a four year runs like that, that dude and then they you know, I feel like he's still the name, he's still the draw, he's still going to sell pay per views. But like in terms of like he's you know, he's he's lost or whatever. He's lost. He's been losing, right, Yeah, but I'm a

fan of his striking. You know, it's kind of hard when you're a striker, Like wrestlers is like the answer to that. So if you're a striker, a bad matchup for you is a wrestler against a wrestler. They'll tire you out. Is that what happened with the Maga Dude and Jorge Mazudal. Yeah, you know what's crazy? Yeah? I think so because he has wrestling on his side, you know what I mean? And Mazdal is a striker, you give me, so between that matchup, you know, I would

love to go for Mazadal. I would love for him to win, but I knew Kobe was gonna win because he got wrestling, Like wrestlers are strong man, strong people. On this album, I feel like there's some moments that are extremely vulnerable, extremely honest. Like I guess for you, like how much of this album was like you had to get some shit off your chest. I guess all of it, yeah, because it felt that way, especially the intro, like that was just laying my demons out on front street,

like all my flaws out front off the rib. Yeah. I don't want a sugarcoat shit. I know where I fuck up at. You feel me, So I wanted to put that on front streets so people know, like, hey, I'm human, like I be doing fucked up shit and I'll be going through fucked up shit. You know that doesn't mean I can't change. That doesn't mean you can't change either. If you did something, if you made bad choices in your day, that doesn't stop you from making

good choices later. You know what I mean. That's real. And I just wanted to show my self on front street where I didn't hide behind clever bars or I didn't hide behind a personality. I just wanted to show you, Denzel. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Now that's what it felt like. What are the things that like? Because you obviously had a crazy I mean, what's it been about ten years? Ten

year run? Yeah, and you still are here. You're still very successful, more successful than ever, You're still very relevant. You're saying you're not, you know you you know some people ten years in you could tell like this is an industry been good on you, you you know what I mean.

One of the things that you've obviously you you mentioned mult typing form of therapy, but is there anything else that you've kind of been able to adapt to just kind of help you deal with just the anxiety or just the pressures of being an artist or just like when you're feeling down throughout my time through a quarantine and stuff like that. Actual therapy was helping me, like talking to a therapist, talking actually to a therapist. Was

it on zoom? It was? Sometimes it was on zoom and sometimes it was in person, but I would have to wear a mask and I will have to get the little click at that. Yeah, like oh you got a regular temperature. But yeah, it was that. It was martial arts, and it was just being close with God, like trying to like find your connection back with God and writing writing on his album. That helps a lot, you know what I mean. Yeah, Right, it's kind of like a journal type thing, right, Yeah, it was like

diary entries. Yeah, now that you were saying you do hot yoga too, we were talking about hot yoga. Man, Hey, you can't be just putting a ship out on front street. Was so passionate about yoga. Yes, today I just fuck with you, but yeah, but hi, yoga is the ship? How Yah? I want to do I want to try that and I want to try a sensory deprivation tank. That's when you sit in like a tank and the water water. I heard like, if you sit in that ship,

even if you're hallucinating. Yeah, even if you're not on anything, you could it's like a natural like hallosing it. I don't know, yeah it is. I mean the rapper you know who Daylight is? Yeah, of course, yeah. Daylight was telling me about that ship years ago. It was like sensory deprivation to Daylight. Shout out the Daylight Light. It's an amazing MC. Yeah. You know what's crazy. Me and him are ten years apart, and his birthday is like a few days before. My nice guy too, super nice guy.

I remember in Phoenix he had a battle at the Celebrity Theater and he had on stage, which was interesting. Way you was there for that? I was not there, but all my friends. I'm from Phoenix, so I had like seven in my homies, like yo, bro, we're at this fucking battle and dude started shipping on. I was like, what the Spawn? You know what's crazy? Nobody knows that's where his own face tattoo came from. Yes, it's chapel from Spawn. Yeah, hey, shout out to Spawn. You know

what's crazy. I heard they're remaking. They're gonna do a new Spawn movie. They should because the first one was good, but it wasn't like great. Yeah, they're saying they're trying to get Jamie Foxx for it. I don't know about that. You don't think so maybe the first one. I was like as a kid, I was like, yeah, it's far. As an adult, I'm like, this ain't that far. Just like that movie right there, Belly, when you When I

was a kid, it was the best movie ever. And then when I like really started like find out about like you know what cinema like, I'm like, Okay, visually it's amazing. Just the story the story of Belly is terrible, super terrible. But you watch it and it's like there's moments in the movie that are like iconic and like that's all that Like as like a ten year old who's favorite from the actual movie Yeah, like the end where they come in and the shits in their eyes

and they get the guns from the toilet. But it's probably the in my opinion, the best worst movie ever for nostalgia purposes. There are movies that are like that, like the best worst movie. Oh, there's a lot of shitty good movies. I guess we'll call them shitty. What's another one? Damn, what's another one? Every movie Matthew McConaughey has been in except Dallas Spiders Club. You know, I

never got into Matthew McConaughey movies. Man, shit. I used to think Dared Deevil like that move is wraw until I realized, like, I don't like the way that Ben Affleck acts. He's in a lot of those movies we're talking about. Yeah, he's in a lot of those except The Town. The Town was Raw. I give him the Town shout out to the homie Slain. Yeah, The Town was Crazy. Jeelie with j Lo they say is like the worst movie ever. But I as a kid, because I used to be obsessed with Jlo, I was like,

I don't get it. It's it's not terrible, but Belly definitely terrible, not as bad as Belly Too. Belly was starring the Game Terrible. I thought Boozie was in that movie. I hope he is. I don't remember it was starting a game. Oh my god. If Boozy was in there and didn't make the fucking VHS cover because I had it. I've never seen Belly Too, so I can't even tell you. Yeah, that's not it. I wonder if they just it was like simon a shot out on their iPhone or I

don't know. This was like twelve years ago. Shout out to BELLI. Yeah, movies would rap present them. You know what movie I like that guy. I like Get Richard, I Tria solid movie. That's a solid movie. I like South Paul, South Paul. Those are fifty cent movies, right, yeah, I mean eight Mile was good, but then great we just went through. We just talked about this the other day.

There were so many random Like when I was growing up, they used to just put shit out and and like there was a movie called Ticker and it was Nas and Steven Sigall and this other dude. But they had Nas front and center on the cover, like he had a real part in the movie. It was like starring and it said Nas right in the middle, and I was like, Na's my favorite rapper, right, so I buy the fucking dvd. El Mads my ship. He's in the movie for thirty seconds. Dead ass, dead ass. But Steven Saga.

It's Steven Sagall, Nas and some other guy. But it was like the cover of the movie, it's just Nas. Steven Saga is on the left and this other white dud's on the right. So you're thinking, oh, shit, Nas is in this motherfucker lest go Hey, Romeo Must Die was hard. DMX Exit Wounds was fire too. Oh that shit was hard. Cradle to the Grave was hard. The Grave was fire. Then there's like random ones like, uh, you know, yeah, there's a lot shout out to uh

Killer Season Cameron. Yeah, Killer Season was funny. That master P shit, I got the hook in my back, b I got the hookup. Master P was solid. Master P had I had a little wave with the movies for me. You make that movie Hot Boys with Silt the Shaka, Yeah, that shit, Soak the Shocker, best worst rapper ever. It ain't my fault as my shit, best worst rapper ever, it ain't my fault. It's pretty hard. Quite possibly the

Belly of Rappers Soak the Shocker. I ain't gonna sit here and don't and I want to interview him because I really would like to just talk to him and be like, dude, there was like ninety days when I was eleven, I thought you're the greatest rapper alive because I had a no limit chain and I had one of those from the middle of the mall. I had a no limit chain and a Wu Tang chain, had a Wu Tang chin. Yeah, they were like twelve dollars turned green. Have you seen the new Batman movie? Nah?

Not yet. Don't spoil it. Okay, okay, it's really good, but don't spoil it. I won't you seen Doom? No, no, it's everyone. Everyone who's seen it that I know says it's very Uh it's just like one of those movies where you're like forty five minutes in and you're like, what the fuck is even going on right now? It's not like that, though I haven't watched it. Don't knock until you tried it. Did you play the game Dune? Yeah? No, I don't know. I don't know. Dune was a game.

It was it was a game. You're saying Doom, Dune, do any doom? Doom was a game. Doom was a game, so it was done. Doune was a book. It was a game on PC? Was it? Yes? Google that ship. Maybe I'm tripping Dune the game. It was like a PC game. Eat yourselb was in it? Right? What? Wait? And what in Doom? Isn't he in Dune? Hell no? Then I know it's a book. It's on HBO max right now. It was on HBO Max. Isn't it a game? It is? They have a bunch of games. It's a

PC game from the nineties. Yeah, that's crazy. Now, from the nineties. The only games I played on PC was like Half Life. Only games I played on PC was fucking Oregon Trail. I don't even know what that is. Ship. We used to get that free day at school. They put you on that with that floppy disc. You play that Oregon Trail, you go hunting, kill you a buffalo, feed your family until your daughter gets a snake bite and then she dies. Oh shit, the goal is to

get to Oregon. You never played orgon trail? Oh man. When I was coming up, motherfuckers was playing Room Escaping. Shit. I never played that shit. Yeah, I just I didn't have a computer towels like fifteen. So yeah, I never got into the online gaming. Did you play? Do you do game now? Like on the PC or on the NAH play on the PlayStation? You play the PlayStation? Yeah? What is your go to? Ghosta Tsushima? Yo? So I

don't have time for anything in life. So I have this thing where I buy games and I just don't play. So I have like every I mean, my son plays them. So shout to my son aiden. I mean, I see you play the Mortal Kombat because you got in your here. Yeah, I mean it's but that's legendary though, Like who doesn't play Mortal Kombat? Right? But that game I bought it and it's the one game I haven't That game and the Spider Man game I haven't touched yet. The Spider

Man game is pretty five, I know. So those are like the two games like whenever I have time to breathe, I want to try to play. My son says that that, but you never played a New More to Combat. H I played with my kid. That's easy though, that's easy to hop in do some matches and you know, yeah, the other ship you gotta really be that the ghost of what is it, ghost of Sushimo? That ship you gotta be committed to. That ship is hard Bro, because this is a whole story. My sens it might be

the best game ever. Is one of the best games. I ain't gonna say it's the best game. He's like, it's up there. You know. For me, it's because you got that New Guy Award that came out first the first Meddle. Gear Solid is my favorite game ever. I never played Metal Solid, never played it. I know who Snake is and everything, but I never played Metal First one Bro. Super Smash Brothers is my ship. Super Smash Bros. Is amazing. Yeah. I think there's a new game, is

it elder Ring? I heard? I heard about that. It's supposed to be coming out, right, Eldon elden Ring? Or No, it's out someone we just knew who saying that they're playing it. Oh, Big Crit last night was telling us, he's like, I'm addicted to this show. That's another person who don't get the credit they deserve. I told him that yesterday. I said, Hey, Krit, for what it's worth, you're one of the greatest rappers of all time. Did you not hear? Krit was here well, Returning Forever we

have Qrit was here on Vinyl. I was in high school bumping that shit. Of course, no trust me. I started liking Big crit you know. I ain't gonna say I listened to him, nah, But when I was listening to him like Glasshouse on Wizard's Project on Cushion Orange Juice, shit was hard. And then he came out with that Krit was here, and he came out with the Returner Forever.

Returner Forever was my That's my favorite one. That was one of the best albums of that year whatever that it was, twenty ten, It's probably one of my favorite albums of the twenty tens. Shout out to Krit. Yeah, yeah, we had a dope interview yesterday. Yo. We got to take a break in the interview real quick. Tell you about our folks at my bookie. Man, this is my favorite time of the year to gamble. I love gambling on sports. And if you've been thinking about putting your

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back from retirement. Shesh my bookie dot ag use that promo code bootleg bot l e G. One word when you sign up, and your first positive will be matched up two thousand dollars in free money. Let's get back to the interview. Yo. It's crazy because you're like you were kind of class of hip hop. You were like right before a lot of you know, you were on the same shows with a lot of these kids. I think the first big show I might have saw you on was the first or second Rolling Loud? Was it

the second Rolling Loud? There was like a second, Yeah, it was the second Rolling Loud I DJed. It was the one that was in Winwood. Mmm. And that was the first one. No, that was the second one. That was the first one, No, because I didn't It was two of them. Well, the first one had Schoolboy Q headlining, uh and Travis. Yeah, I didn't go to that one. I was. That was the one that rained. Yeah, yeah, my cousin was working a dope. The second one I

DJ'ed at, And that was the one. It was a little Way in the Future headlining, and it was in Windwood. That was in twenty sixteen or fifteen, only sixteen sixteen. It was twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, Yeah, twenty fifteen. But you were, you were on the other stage. But it was crazy because it was like twenty one. Savage was super young, and I remember he was. I think he

went on before you. But just in terms of like the class of like hip hop, you are, like I feel like you were kind of like right before when things get started to get really, in my opinion, not to my liking. I suppose I look at like twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, like rap is like the Dark Ages. I can't I can't even call it the Dark Ages because you got some gems and you no, no, there's gems. I'm not saying everything, but in terms of like just

some of the stuff labels were signing. Oh, you know, like we would have like guys like kid Boo coming to get to the station, and this guy was like the whole reason he got signed is because he went viral for saying he was like a clone or like there was Instagram kids getting like support. Supreme Patty got offered a deal from three hundred. I don't think it takes that much to get nowadays, because you just got to have an image and shit and you can make

a cool song or whatever. But my thing is is, like I feel like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen it was rough because I would just be like, what the fuck are these labels seeing in some of these like it was just the Cloud era, Yeah that's what he era, peak Cloud era. Man, it was the Cloud era, And I'm so glad that it like kind of has faded away a bit. It was the way it faded out was pretty horrible. What do you mean, like people dying from overdose? Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

I think the cloud era usher back in the gangster rap era, because right now, like I feel like this is a gangster rap era. It's like happening all over again. I think about EStG and Yo and like, I mean a lot of those guys, they're the biggest dudes, are getting biggest bags. Dirk, you know, we can go. But yeah, it's crazy because you're like, you probably knew a lot of these dudes, and I you know, just in terms

of like the drug shit and hip hop. Man, it was it was just it's just crazy to think of all the talent that we lost over the last I mean a lot of these guys that you know that we lost in hip hop were guys that I met back in the day. I mean, X, if you know our history, X used to live with me. There's one you know we lost. What year was that that was? X lived with me in twenty sixteen and then he started to living with Bruno in like twenty seventeen around

that time, and then he blew up. Well, actually it was later that year. It was like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. Yeah, So for people who don't know, because I'm not totally hip to I knew you guys were cool, but like, give me the history of you and X, because at that time, I'm sure, I mean, I would get into it. Yeah, but you know, I've talked to everybody about like, you know, Ex's legacy, and I'm just trying to build my own shit. You know, I respect that. I respect that. I know

everybody know tons of information about X already. That's fair. That's fair. Feel what I'm saying, like actually recycled stories about X nowadays because they want to know more about him. But my time with him is what I told other interviewers and ship. So what about the biggest misconception about him? You live with somebody, you really get to know him, you know, I mean shit, like what you see is what you get. That's whatever you saw is what you got,

That's how he was. How do you feel about where Florida is right now in the game, because now I feel like it's not only I mean, before it was like Miami Dade County, you know, Uh, it was really a Southern Florida, South Florida vibe that was holding down the state. But now the whole state is lit. Yeah, the whole state is. Lando's popping, JAP, Tampa's on the way up. You know. There's some artists in Tampa that are dope. But yeah, like you ever heard of I am Doci? I heard of him? Yeah, I am dot.

She is girl, but like, wait, I am do she's a girl. She I think she's on TD now right now. That's the they just signed. Yeah, they just signed her like a week ago, right, I don't think it was a week ago, but but they just announced it. They signed her, Oh they did. Yeah, I think they just announced it. But yeah, she straight out of Tampa too. Like you know what I'm saying. I remember when I first met her and she was like, I came to your show back in like two thousand and something. I

was like, what was the keyboard City shows were crazy? Yeah, So I was just thinking to myself, like damn. But the fact that Florida's on the rise right now, like I just embraced it all. You get what I'm saying, It's not just South Florida doing something. You feel me like just opening that door for Florida, regardless of how it sounds like. It could be ratchet, it could be beef and whatever it is, right, you know what I'm saying.

You know you got Glock nine, you got hot Boy, you got spot and got him, you got Young and Knae, Julio the shop Spinner bends. Uh. You know what I'm saying. I am Doci Caliban Duda from Tampa's Dope. Yeah, you got all these people that's going on. You know what I'm saying. It's crazy as fun when you realize a lot of these guys the Wave Rod Wave is tight to Saint Pete. It's crazy because he's such a star. I just be forgetting he's from saintetecause I lived in

Saint Pete for three It's is crazy. I got family in Saint Pete. Shout out to Saint Pete. Man, it's a vibe until it's not. I think Florida is a vibe into it. That's the thing. Is like when you're from Miami, like we don't associate with the rest of Florida. It's so funny. That's real. I mean the Miami. I mean, I feel like Miami is such a melting pot. It's really like only a few other places that remind me of like just the like New York is like that.

Like depending on where you are in New York, you're like, Oh, I'm Miami is so little Haiti, there's the Cuban there. I mean, it's just it's just such a It's such a dope. There's so much culture in Miami. It's like, you know, a lot of people wouldn't even expect that because they just think of the beach and they think of like Vice South Beach. You know, Miami is a wholes It's like a cultural hub for a lot of a lot of people. Like I love my It's my

favorite city in the United States besides my hometown. Yeah. And oh, I can't forget play that Boy's Day. That's my boy. He coming out the city. He raw too. Yo. It was dope when you and Ross ended up finally working together, because it was dope to see Ross embrace the newer generation of what's going on in Miami. How

important was that for you? Just like I mean, I just felt like it was a passing of the torch and ship, you know what I'm saying with Ross, But Ross still got stuff in the chamber that like, he's still doing stuff, you know what I mean? And you know, I've been listening to Ras since he was what po boy, you know, like when flow Rider, Bristo and Ross was all rolling together and ship. But me and my brothers like, we like, we love Ross even we listened to Ross

like Teflon Dawn Deep in the Wrap, Miami. You we are knew Ross. We knew Ross was raw and a City Cars album was hard and he was putting on for the city. Shout out to Breed, like I fuck with Breed gun Play because Breed mess with my boy Soldier Living True. That's my nigga Poochie and we pretty much like connected through Poocci because we both fuck with Poochi heavy Gucci Poochi. Is this the same Pooci that you used to manage Ross or is this a different

poo It's different pooch. Okay, Okay, different poocies in Miami. Yeah, but you gotta call him Soldier Living True. So okay, Okay, I don't want to mess that up. Don't don't don't fuck that up. Shout to Gunplay, though, Gunplay is that motherfucker. Gunplay is a rappers rapper, A rappers rapper, rappers rapper.

You remember that song power Circle? Nah? But I was heard take this of course, take this to your brain ship where he's got the white girl and he's like, I'm like, dude, I show that video to people all the time. I'm like, y'all want to see the craziest flagrant ass music video. I'm gonna say this gunplay. He's talking about being high on coke, he's paranoid his fuck In the video, he's got the white chick and he's like taking money out of her spand that that ship

was so crazy. He was like, bitch, we living in hell? How to fuck you? To Reverend, I was like, damn this raw like gunplay, like listening to that, listening to all on you, rolling with Walker Floka single handedly him and walka Flocka is the reason why I wanted to grow Dredds in the first place. That's crazy, you know what I'm saying. The cartoons in Cereal with gun playing Hendrick just talk about this shit this morning killed that shit.

I'm so mad that that's not on DSPs man. That ship was so raw, yo, gunplay, Yo, salut, gunplay Man. I know he shocked. I know he'd done Yachta Driz, but like he had a Yeah, there was a record on self Made two called Power Soco was the intro and it was Gunplay Ross Stally, Walle, Kendrick and Meek and it was just like he kicked it off and it was like it's probably my favorite, uh my favorite

gun play gun Blaby snapping. Yeah, it's I would like to see gunplay like do movies or like, I don't know, host a podcast or you know, maybe do like the sidewalk talk shit that they're doing in New York with Nams, the Bing Bong guy, but like have him in Miami, like just because he's so he's such a character, like he's and he's like a good ass, I mean, very animate. He's always been super cool like when I met him. So shout out to gunplay. Me the same every time

I see gun players love you know. So everybody should go watch to take this video right now on YouTube. And the one thing, the one thing about Gunplay is people don't even know like out of Miami rappers, that's my favorite Miami rapper. That's crazy. Gunplay is my favorite Miami rapper. I like him more than I like Rosso, and Ross is talented as fuck. You know what I'm saying, best year for beats ever. Maybe it's up there. It is up there. But Gunplay is like Rawness, Like that's

Miami rappers. There's yourself, there's Ross, there's Gunplay obviously, trick Daddy, City Girls, shout out to the City girls, Uh kidd o, Marv Major nine, who else? There's a lot. There's a lot coming out of the city on Bruno, Maley h Hood Ace Hood Acehood from Broward Is he from? Yeah? From brow Okay, brow County is totally separate, Yeah, because that's where Fort Lardale is, right, Yeah, yeah, Okay. I

gotta still give it to Ross. And I think I think Ross is like the tenth best rapper of all time. I made a list and I had Ross at number ten, And I know that's high for a lot of people, that's high. But if you listen to teflon Dawn and Oh Deep In to Rap, you can't tell me those aren't certified classics. Those are classic ass albums. I agree, And I mean just the consistency, bro like he's still going the flow is butter. What he brought to the

game is. I mean, he's in my I always say like ten, he's he's top ten, and I put him at ten. I like Ross because he brought something different to Miami, you know what I'm saying. Definitely, he really brought something different really prior to that, Like if you think it Daddy Trina, the Slipping Slide era flow Rider, that shit was just not like, like I feel like Ross embodied like what we thought of Miami when we saw Scarface, but like an updated version of like some

boss like Kingpin. Like it just was like it just to me, it properly displayed that side of the aesthetic of Miami as to where like Trina and Trick, where there was a whole other aesthetic of Miami that's like super turned up And what's your favorite Miami strip club? I don't go to strip clubs ever? Like never, Wow, nigga, I went on, let me tell you your wife tep right. Yeah, okay, okay, shout to wifey, shout out to wifey. Yeah, but nigga, I do not go to strip clubs. Did you have

a bad experience? Well? No, I just don't go, not even for the food. Why would I go? G five has great wings. So those tutsis but Toutsie's got the fried lobster tail with seafood rice. Like I don't want to go in there, and then I'll just be like, oh shit, I went to school with this bitch, Like I don't you know what I'm saying, but the food is good. At last time I went in the strip club. My cousin, y'all, y'all took me to the strip club.

And she thought you were gonna say her cousin was dancing. No, she was, hell, no, no, that would have been sucked up because you go in there not knowing and she don't know you're coming in. And that's happened to my boy went to a strip club and saw his sister. Where the fucking guy. This happened like ten years ago. That's crazy, can't can't be meto. But like I went to the strip club with my cousin just you know, because she was linking over with her family friend over there.

So we I was like, you know, I almost slide with you, you know what I mean, right, I just went in there she you know, chopped it up with a family friend and then dipped out ran in the ball greasy ball Greasy told the DJ I was there. The DJ was like, we got this up, Curry in the building. I was just like, nah, nigga, I'm going home. Like he was on the Little Duvault record, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I thought that was dope to see him kind of like because I'm like, man, ball Greasey ben't doing this thing for a long time and that record was like top five of radio. So it was dope to like best life. Yeah, shout out to do shout out to Little Duvall Man, Hey, you had you got. So let's talk about this album. When does the album actually come out? Because March twenty fifth, Okay, so we got a few weeks. But so we'll hold on to this until closer to the album. But uh, you got some dope features on

this project. But the te Pain feature just was super unexpected because I'm listening to the album and the version of the early that I have doesn't have the features on it. I'm just pressing play and I'm like, Yo, this shit is hard, and then shit tea Pain. Yeah Pain was that an easy ad? Like pain is the coolest mother. I'm real tight with pain. I've been like pain is my guys. So people like he's the most humble.

If he fucks with you, he fucks. He's the chillest dude I've met for sure, so far is out of him and thunder Cat and Flat Level. Yeah you know what I'm saying. So what was the t pain like, like like when you cut that record, did you specifically say like I need tea pain? No, this will happen when I cut the record. I went to the cave to work with Kenny Beats. Okay, you know what Kenny Beats, right, So I worked with Kenny Beats at his studio. You

guys have a joint project. Yeah, unlocked, like when we together, the duo is unlocked. Okay, He's incredible. I've been trying to get him on the show. He like went on his Twitch and like I played a part of my interview talking about how dope is. It was like we made it and I was like, damn it. I'm like, all right, well come on the show, then connect to I'll talk to Kenny Man now he's an legend. But continue. But yeah, So I was at Kenny Beat studio. This

was like early twenty twenty. This is where I just went there and we wanted to work on some tracks, like you know, and he was playing beats and everything. Then he played he was like, he played something. He played on the sample of troubles, and then I just started writing to it as he was making a beat, and I only wrote the hook. So I was like, guys in trouble with these drugs, we might struggle because life's bitch. They heavy when your ass get rich blowing

money because up bad ain't ship. So he and he was like, yo, just go in the studio, bro, just go in. So I'm like, all right, I go in the studio. I lay it down. I laid down the verse. I laid out two verses and basically, you know, it was just like this is dope. I sent to my management. It was like, oh this shit five, this, that and the third like we like this, this is gonna be the hit. I know this is gonna be the hit.

And then I'm just like, yeah, whatever, nigga. So I remember I was reaching out to people at this point because like I wasn't working as much with F and Z anymore, and I was just reaching out to people

seeing who was gonna hit me back. And I was reaching out specifically to producers, not even to an artists, and Ta Paint was just one of those artists I wanted to reach out to because I just wanted his insight with you know, yeah, with just music and me and Ta Pain's relationship it started at Bonnorou Festival in twenty eighteen, like he liked my cipher. Of course, I

grew up on his music. I grew up on rapper turn Sanger and then you know, him and Adam de Vemp from Work of Holics was cracking jokes backstage, back and forth. I love that show. Yo. It was like it was like deaf comedy jam or some shit. If you ever seen them too interact, it was funny as fuck. That sounds amazing. I do my set, he do his set. Were still cracking jokes with each other. We exchanged numbers

this and the third. That's how a relationship started. And then you know, I reached out to him and I was like, hey, I'm about to call you because you know, I changed my number. I don't know if he changed his number. Reached out to him and I was talking to him, just bigging them up and just letting him know, like, yo, you're a legend. I know you don't get appreciated as much because like all the things that happened in the industry.

But brouh, I'm letting you know that I appreciate you and what you've done for me just growing up, you know what I'm saying, Like all the shit you did with DJ Khaled, of course you did with Rick Ross, all the shit you did with Plis, all the shit you did with Lil Wayne, and even all the shit you've done yourself, even freaknat like if you just t paying one two punch yeah on those Calid records. Yeah, even the stuff you did with Kanye West. Yeah, come on, man,

you know what I mean. So here Will really appreciated that. And I wanted his feedback on two tracks that I have on the album. So one of them was Worst Come to Worst, and I sent Troubles. They were two opposites, and those were like the leading singles for me before I made any of the other records. Sent it to him, and he gets back to me. He said he loved Troubles, and he was like, Wor's come the Worst is fire too. If I was you, I'll put both of them bitches

out at the same time on different blog sites. And I was like that's it ain't gonna work, you know what I'm saying. Also blogs like whatever years, you know what I mean. So he really loved the Troubles record. He really liked that record. So my manager Mark a year later, he was like, Hey, we think about sending that record in t Pain to see what he's gonna do with it. So I'm like, all right, whatever, you know,

you send it to most people. Most people don't get back to me because it's me, you know what I'm saying, even though they don't know me like that, you know. So basically what happened with that was t I'm going in the Multai class and T Pain texts me. He's like yo, and I'm like yo. He didn't reply, and I'm just like all right, whatever, so you know, I'll

call him probably at some point. Then the next day, I'm at my homie Power's crib, which who also produced on this record, and you know, we going over some stuff. I get a text some T Pain a drop box folder and I opened a folder and you know, I'm listening to it and I was like, oh, this is Troubles and this that and the third you know, and then next thing, you know, his voice comes up and I'm like, oh shit, I start spassing because the man ripped it. And he gave me classic T pain, like

in T Pain that everybody knows. Fact, you know what I'm saying. He gave me T Pain, T Pain. He gave me him great record, and what he was writing about was so really, I know you felt it. You know. I felt that shit firsthand. And I was even I even got self conscious a bit, and I was just like, damn, should I change my verse? He was like nah, and then POWERS like nah, hell noah, bro, like that's the record, Like you got to keep it like that. So I'm like,

you know what you right? And I was feeling self conscious because I'm like, damn, T Pain ripped it. But I'm like, that's the pain, you know what I'm saying. No, I mean, that's he's one of them ones. I mean, like I think of him and Akon and like Lil Wayne in the run that they had on like around the same era, and like how they were just on everything. It was like each of them had like three years

and they just kept passing the baton. It was like Acon, then it was Pain, then it was Wayne in Pain, and then it was just when it was It's every remix everything. Yeah, it was crazy. Did you ever did you ever end up? Did you ever do a song with DJ Kelly? No? He never tapped in. Nah, I feel like he gonna tap in though I know he gonna tap in, though I don't even I don't even worry. I'm not even worried about that. I know he gonna

tap in. And if you don't, he's sleeping. Yeah, because I mean obviously you know he's he's had, he's had, you know, born and raised in the County and Dade. And look at this point, motherfuckers know who the fuck I am. Yes, I know, motherfuckers know who the fuck I am. Do they say anything, Nah, they'll tell me in person, but they ain't gonn tweet about it was on that Born and Raised record. It was uh, yeah, it was tricky. Rick Ross was Dre on it from

Coon Dre. Nah, you must be thinking about brown people bag brown babe. That was what Santana. That was my ship. That ship was hot. Calid them early Klid records before, like I mean, Kaled is still putting out one they had to o. My god, bro, there was that one Kalid video where Rick Ross gets pulled over and he jumps off the bridge into the water. Do you remember that. It was the most ridiculous, awesome, like overly like you

ain't talking about we taking over, right, I think? So he gets pulled over and then he just says fuck it and you just see Rick Ross jumping off of and it's really him, like they didn't use the stunt double and they filmed it from like all the angles and it's Rick Ross just diving into the ocean. That was an era for Miami. That was an era. They all were on that double XL covers flow Rider, Ross and Kalid. That ship was so fire. Plies, I know Pies is from Fort Myers, but Plies now we adopt.

You could claim, yeah, he lives in Tampa. We claim all Florida rappers. We claim everybody applies lives in Tampa. Though a lot of people, you know what, don't tell him where. Don't tell him telling the people where this man live. Man, not that people know, they know. I didn't know Tampa claims that motherfucker bro that will be at the he'd be at the goddamn what's the grocery store with the gray sandwiches in Florida publics, publics, I miss publics, Yeah, me too, them subs, the public data.

They never had a pub slub. You know, it's crazy because like you can go to Rouse here you get the chicken ten of sub right, oh you can get it. I mean, not anything, but the chicken sub. Chicken send of sub is the best one. And wah wah. Oh they just got down out here. No, not out here. I'm just talking about it in Florida. I know in Florida. I mean I moved there early twenty fourteen. After the club, you'd be able to go to wah wahs and get a solid meat ball or parmesan sandwich from a gas

station at like five am. Yeah, that's true. And it's like, oh, why aren't there more wa wahs everywhere? The first time I heard of a wah wah is because of Ronnie J. Really yeah, he was the first person to ever tell me what a wah wah was. It's it's kind of crazy because people are trying to hype me up and I'm like, it's a fucking gas station. No, it's not just the just the gas station. You can yeah, you can get some quality food at wah wahs. Yeah, I like wa wah yo. We got to stop the interview

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the interview. What's your favorite? Like, if someone's going to Miami right and fuck yelp, you have to tell them this is kind of the you know the food spot that really ain't out there like that, what's the food spot that you go to? I'd say people to South Miami right, Oh somebody calling co vein. I think text havane for me. Got hands Anyway, if you in Miami, like go to South Miami right, or you go to Hialia,

it's a place called Hungry Bell. Hungry Bell. You get, yeah, hungry Bell, and you get these big ass most fire sandwich you probably ever had. Okay, I'm a sandwich guy. Like, if you go to South Miami, it's right across the street from Miami Dade. Okay, okay, you go over there, like the South Campus. Yeah. So if you go down there, go across the street from Miami Daye South Campus and it's in this little plaza it's called Hungry Bell. Go

in there, go get you a sandwich. They cross everything out on the list of what you want on your sandwich. And bro, you could say, you could like if you hella hungry eat half that sandwich right there. And Windwood, Nah, it's I was in Windwood and this is my boy from Miami took me to a sandwich place and it was like that, like like with the you talk ab our little saying. It was a sandwich spot and it was fucking gas. But it was in Wyndwood. It was like,

I don't know. We went after Rolling Loud last year and it was it was pretty fire. Are you doing Rolling Loud this year? Nope? How many Rolling clouds have you done? I did from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty nineteen? Were you on the uh? I didn't do the twenty eighteen one and I didn't do the twenty I mean I kind of did the twenty sixteen one. We kind of, yeah, I kind of did, because you know, I went there, you know when you were there. I remember Making invited me.

He wanted me to come out during his set, and I did that. Are we sure that was twenty sixteen? That was twenty sixteen. It was on the smaller stage. And I went out for Suicide Boys too, that Suicide Boys man. Them just eating And then we got to Hey, shout out to Pool. Oh, shout out to Pool. We forgot to mention him when we're talking about Miami, right, yeah, that's true. We got to mention Kuyah Puyah. I just

saw him not too long ago. He cut his hair again. Yeah, you good to see pu Ya Pulla's good, super nice guy. And Fat Nick. I love Fat Nick. He's just a character. He's kind of like a He's like a walking cartoon character. I always tell him, I'm like, bro, I'm cool with Fat Nick, but I'm cooler with Pooya PuO. Yeah. Yeah, now PuYas A, he's a beast. I feel like he had to be influenced by what you guys. He says it every day. Yeah, very much so. But he was

influenced by me. And now when like Raider Clan and shit, you know the Raider Clan shit could have been so crazy. Yeah, I mean, if things didn't play out the way it did, all of us will be like multimillionaires right now. Instead just you are. I ain't gonna even just put my name in that ring like that. You know what I'm saying. I'm doing well. You're doing well. I'm doing well. That's all that matters. Man. What is like this? Everyone has

a stupid thing they spend money on? For me, I don't buy like I don't have a nice I just have a normal car. It's paid off. I don't have car payment. You know. I usually buy just like I buy basketball cards or Phoenix Sun's jerseys of like any like I have like thirty Sons jersey. I don't I just buy stupid ship like that. Maybe some Jordan's right, What is the dumb thing to spend money on? I don't even consider it dumb. But I buy toys like colection? Yeah,

I got a toy collection. You have like a toy room. I got a toy case. But I just how old are they? Like? Because I have my Owmi d You remember that movie Small Soldiers. Of course, I bought those toys like gargoyles. Bought those toysle Godzillas bought those toys. Ultra Mantiga bought those toys, the whole school power ranges, Like I remember, I remember, so you got all those you buy them in the box and yeah, I don't open them ships at all. Gotta go on eBay for that. Yeah,

I go on eBay. I try. I see how much it is, and it'd be like three hundred dollars for like the small soldiers. Shit, I'll be like, run it. I just started to get some like fun codes, and I have I have like I have like some Lebron toys, which sounds really really stupid compared to your toys. And I have all my old Ninja turtles from when I was a kid still in my garage. I'll be looking up the Burger King Dragon ball Z figurines, the ones that was like silver, right, I'm trying to see how

much like they. What's the most expensive toy you have or the most expensive toy that you actually cost you like the most money? Man, It's kind of hard to decide. I forgot how many, like how much one of my toys costs. Damn, there's a lot over a thousand. I don't even know over a thousand. I think as my toys as a whole is over one thousand, probably over two bands. That's tight. Small Soldiers had a solid soundtrack. They had a song with Bone Thugs on that soundtrack

that was fire. Yeah, that was a good movie. I didn't remember the soundtrack though. Only tends to be a big Bone Thugs fan as a kid, So like anything Bone Thugs is on, we would we would buy this, like, oh, they're on the Batman and Robin sound track, let's buy it. Small olders, though, people forget about that fucking movie. Those toys look so raw. I bet they do because the

fucking old movies based on the toys. So like you, like, even the old school toy story toys looked hard because it felt like it was like the same buzz like Woody. I actually got those toy ks too, you know, Oh so your ship is just nostalgic. Yeah, I got a lot of Dragon ball Z toys. Are you a big anime guy? Yeah? I mean I've seen you perform, and I know some of your aesthetic on your artwork all that, So I mean I can only assume what's your favorite,

what's your what's like the goat anime to you. Cowboy Bebop. Cowboy Bebop, that's the goat anime for me. People think it's Dragon ball Z and I love Dragon ball Z, you know what I'm saying. But I bought my son the Blu Rays box set of Dragon ball Z. I didn't realize how many episodes were on each season. That's like, I feel like it's like more than like most shows. But the thing with that, that shit that should just

get hella turned up, you know what I'm saying. Like, I rewatched all non seasons of it during Quarantine and I was like, damn, this should give me anxiety again, like because they'd be powering up and you think something's gonna happen, and then they got to go to the next episode. You're like, what the hell's going on? You know? I rewatched The Wire during the pandemic and Curb Your Enthusiasm. Man, you ever watched Curb? Oh? I love Curb. Did you watch this past season? No? I didn't get to see

the past season, but I like Curb. I never watched Seinfeld though, you know, I like Seinfeld until I watched Curb and I was like, Seinfeld ain't shit. Curb is like what like Curb is like the absolute best version of like that type of humor. So like Seinfeld was amazing. I love Seinfeld, but it is not fucking with Curb. Nah, Curb. Curb is just funny, especially when they have dic A Fox on that Oh my God, the Hurricane Katrina shit.

And what's crazy is is old boys. Still Leon is still on the show, Still is with Larry to this day, to this season. He's still in Larry's house, So good Man shout out to him on this album too. You also got black Jed to talk about it. Was it track eight? Am I getting the oh ship? Is that track eight? What's this track is called I Gotta look through It? What you mean No? It's called Ain't No Way. There's a song called what you mean No No No, Okay,

I just doesn't but there's a way. That song is crazy. It's like a real posse cut though, And you had told me all the artists on this. I didn't even realize Buddy was singing at the end like like crazy posse cut. Yeah, who was on this record? Okay? So it's myself, Jed, Josiah Rico, Nasty Kiddy, Cash, Buddy, Robert glassper plays keys on this uh and powers and Buddy's singing at the end. That's a hard I mean, is

that a hard song to pull off? Getting? Yo? You would think it's a hard all the moving parts, Yo, you would think it's a hard song to pull off. But the night we recorded that, shit, it felt like it was the easiest thing. Was everyone there. Everybody was there. Oh see, that's rare these days to have that many

people in the same place. Bru The way the link up was crazy because I went there for a Josiah session and Josiah was working on his arm song called Art of War, which at first I wasn't going right to it, and then I did the intro, but I ended up writing to it. So I go outside started writing my verse, and shit, right, Rico Nasty's next dough. I didn't even know she was in the same building. Rico Nasty comes out the room the same time I come out the room to write my verse. So I'm

on the couch writing. I hear I'm like, what the fuck? Like, I look up and I was like, oh, that's Rico, Rico Rico. I called her name three times, Rico so Rico looked down Finally she was like, boy, what, oh, what's up this hell? I was like, yo, what's good? Ricos. We started chopping it up and then we go into the next room. We go into the room with Josiah and Sean and all them boys, and then I was like, look who I ran into. So Josiah and Rico chopping

it up. I'm showing them how to use the College sticks and shit. And we was talking about before the interview, and there's an actual video of me, Josiah and Rico and Rico I'm using the Collie sticks. And I asked Rico, a, you're trying to jump on this song with us, right? Because I did my verse and then we played it for it. She was like, oh, hell yeah. And then we y'all done. Let's like come over to my session and shit. Well, we actually took the session to her room.

To her to her room, it was a bigger room. So we go over to her session. It was just her and David Ali and her engineer. We all come in there, me, Sean, Josiah and Jazz and this other dude who produced Are the War. We're all in there just vibing. Next thing, you know, she was like, yeah, I'm finna call Jig and just that, and the third she calls, Jed tells Jed to pull up. I didn't know Jid was with Black at the time or with Kitty Cash. Were just thinking, Jid gonna pull up. Jed

pulls up with Black and Kitty Cash. We call Powers around the same time. We're like, Powers, you gotta come to this session. You got to. He was doing some other shit. He was like, all right, I'm on the way. He brought his laptop. He was like, he was on the way. He comes through. So now there's a lot of us, and now we're seeing Black and Kitty Cash in the same room. Next thing you know, we in there experimented this motherfucker h Josiah's on the couch like

turning up and shit like yelling, ain't no way. We freestyling over this beat that Powers played and it had two halves to it, so we had you know, that's when Jed. I don't know what happened, but this nigga was like Quincy Jones. That night. This man started organizing the track, like, hey, hey, whatever you're saying right now, do that shit go in the studio. Record that shit boom, so Josiah says, ain't no way, ain't no way, ain't no way on the way, like like kind of like

a bridge type shit. Then he goes and tells Black Black, we need you to do this hook. He goes in there, does the hook like, ain't no way, niggas me. After this he does that, then he was like, Rico, you need to write this, like you need to write this verse right now, and then you need to go after Josiah. So he started organizing the shit, and he was like, Dizzelle, where you want to go. So I'm like, man, long as I'm on this shit, I don't give a fuck

where I'm at. You get what I'm saying, Because there was so many of us. Buddy's not there yet, Buddy's not there yet. Buddy came through. Like, I'll let you know where Buddy came through. So we already recorded ARTI war me, Rico and Josiah right then we recorded. Then we started recording Ain't no way and just putting the pieces together. So he's organizing everybody. Jed, I don't know. Jed kind of got this experience due to the fact that they did the Revenge of the Dreamer shit. So

I'm pretty sure you Yeah, he was. I mean that I've heard in detail about those sessions, so it makes sense. He would, you know, how to kind of conduct everybody. Then Jed goes in, ain't no way, I ain't gonna sew shank from out the ship. He does his verse and I'm sitting there right and he gets out the booth. This is that what you got? And then I started spending my verse on. He was like, that's it going there. So I go in, I do my verse, and then Black shows up with a bunch of females, so we

in there. Black goes in started doing a oh oh oh oh, and then the song's completely done. They did a third track, but I went home. I told it was getting too late. She convincing me to stay in the studio. Matter of fact, I didn't even get the Kitty Cash part. He was like, Kitty, there's a bridge, there's like a little part right here. We need you to talk shit. And Kitty goes in there and kills it one take. Wow, you know what I'm saying. And

then after that I go home. They made it one more track that night, and they said it ain't no way to me. But originally we wanted Rico to have it. That was supposed to be Rico's record, but David was like, you know, it's all fair game. Whoever wants it could have it. And to be honest with you, I didn't want no features for this album. The only feature was

t paying. That was the only one I allowed. But when it came down to the final stages and nobody was claiming this record like it was gonna be hard for powers to clear it, you know what I'm saying, Rico didn't want the record, even though I felt like it fit for her. Like I was like, my management was like, why don't we just put this record on the album? And I was just like I was on the fence about it at first, because I'm like, how

the fuck we gonna get all this shit cleared? So many different moving parts, so many Yeah, and we all know each other though, and so we was of course we was gonna make it work. So we go to Electric Lady and I finished a little half. I added more to my verse because it was short, it was the same same length as Jizz Verse. I added more to it, and Robert Glasper started adding his like keys over it. Next thing, you know, the song was completed, and that's how that song came about. You didn't tell

me how Buddy got on it. Oh buddy shows up and then he just ended up did the same shit. That's so crazy that like, because we don't hear that those kind of sessions anymore, especially that many people like it's always some email and that shit sounded like there was no email, all in person, and there's pictures and videos to prove that all of us was there that night recording this track. Tell me about you know, you have a crazy discography. How many plaques do you have? Three?

Three plaques? That's big independently, Yeah, I was saying independent. I mean no, I mean that's huge. Your discography is very diverse, it's very vast. What is your If I had to ask you what your favorite album is, it's probably gonna be this one excluding this one. How about that? Excluding this one? Yeah? Shit, I can't tell you, bro, I don't really got like a favorite album. Like I

hate looking at my old work. What is the song that you hear that's popular of yours or that you hate to perform because it's like so old And you're like, I'm so I've evolved so much past this, but the fans fucking love it. I mean, I would say ultimately, but I love that song. It's fucking great, you know, like I would say Claude Cobain, but I love that song too. I like Ricky, but I love that song too.

And those are my hiss. But one song that I like, I don't feel confident performing, but I love it so much because it's my favorite song that I ever made. Is this Life Okay? From Imperial? Is it like, is it weird to like when you put a track list together? Obviously, every time you put a new album out, you're like, when you go on tour, you have to change up, you switch up your track list. Is it kind of hard, like dropping some records that you've been performing for some years.

It's like I'm kind of getting rid of some of my kids on this tour. Yeah, I mean at first it's hard, and then we like we would put those records back in, and then when the crowd doesn't move because they don't know it, we take them right back out. So it's like an almost like an always evolving play like track list. When you're when you're when you do your tours, are you gonna be torn? For this album,

of course. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man, some people are weird out by COVID still and give a fuck. I caught COVID twice twice? Was it the omicron? Was it the O G COVID? For Nah, I didn't get the og COVID. I didn't get the killer COVID. I don't think. Okay, thank god, but nah, I got on COVID last year in July, on July fourth. Actually didn't even know. I just thought the ship was allergies and

I was moving around jogging all types of shit. Actually, one of the tracks on this album Mental, I wrapped that while I had COVID and I didn't even know COVID track. Yeah, that was the COVID track. Did you vax that thing up? As Juvenile would say, did I vex that thing? Did you see the Juvenile I vexed that thing? Did you see that? Did you see the video? You didn't see the music video they paid Juvenile to do. No,

Oh my god, it's so good. Juvenile did a remix of back that ass up and he called it vaxed that thing up and they did a music video. Oh my god, it was like a ju juvie vax. That thing up. I swear to it's it's It was. Probably one of my favorite things to come out of the pandemic was the fact that Juvenile did that. I was just like this, I don't know what to think about this,

but I'm just glad it happened. It kind of sucks, kind of sad, but you know, oh my god, when pandering goes wrong, because it was like a government thing, you know, they're like, yo, how can we get minorities to get vaccinated? You know what? Juvenile hey man, Back then, it ain't sound sorry fetched. They got me to stop telling motherfuckers to stop vaping. I mean, yeah, vapor is probably not the greatest thing for you, yep, and so is covid. This is not the greatest thing for you either.

So it is what it is. When you say they got you, did you do a campaign for that? Yeah, I had to keep it up for a few months and shit. And then it was like, why would you do a campaign of no vapor? And I was like, well, shit, I was already telling motherfuckers stop vaping for free, might as well get the bag. Yeah, vaping's bad, and it's not far fetched from what I was already telling motherfuckers. It's not like I was just out the blue just

being like, hey, you stop vaping. Do you have a friend that vapes, like like a serious vapor, Like it was my booking agent. I got him to stop vaping. They won't like like if you have a friend that has like a hardcore vapor, it's like it's like attached to them, Like it's like the big rig with the little thing. I know people that are still vaping, Like one of my I ain't gonna name his name, but like, yeah, he'd be vaping. I'd be like, man, that should be smelling.

I came here, I was like, man, get this shit out of here. Though. I feel like one of those big vape rigs. A Fox Racing T shirts, some cargo shorts, some DC shoes, Oh my god, just a busted down black and white trucker hat and ICP playing. When I think of vapors, that's what I think of. Well, hey, so look the album is out March twenty fifth. Yep, the twenty fifth. Why they get break down the title because the title is is yeah, it's a lot, Okay, the whole thing with the whole title melt my I

See a Future. When I first made that title, it was supposed to come out after Taboo, and I just thought, like, I I made this long ass title. It sound fire, that's all I thought it was. I was like, damn if I was thinking of a fire name or album what I call it? And I was like, my I see your future. I was like, shit, that shit, it sounds hard. But as I started working on the album, it was pretty much about awareness at a point, and then I was like, but I'm not gonna name an

album awareness. Yeah, that's like that's whack as fuck, Like I ain't gonna name my album awareness be a terrible album name. He's like, awareness, we need to be aware. Like shut up, like you know what I'm saying. You've

already made people aware to stop baping. Yeah. Of course awareness was done exactly so when I made so when I started working on it more it was more so about myself and it's discovering who I am, and you know, like a self discovery type of thing and flaws and everything, what I'm good at and what I'm not good at, what I need to work on, what I don't need to work on, you know, And it just became about

melting the perception who of what people thought? I was all right, you know because during the quarantine, you know, before that, before we all had to isolate, people were telling me, Yo, you're the greatest rapper, or you're this, or you're that, or you're a great performer, or you're the best rapper all the time, or you're this. But the moment quarantine happened, all that shit did not exist anymore. What do you mean that shit didn't exist? You're just

getting like praises praise. So when people wasn't telling me who Denzel Curry was, then who are you? Who the fuck am I? Exactly? That's real if you Yeah, because if that's always happening, because you're always out, you're alway running around, you're always seeing people, you can kind of just live off of that. Yeah, and you're living off your own high. Yeah, you're smelling your own high. You're smelling yeah. No, it's real roses a bit. And you can exist in that way until you can't until it's

all gone. And then once it's all gone, you are completely on human level. Yep, with everybody, you were on the same plan field. You get know what I'm saying, Anything could happen. So once I got to that point where I was like, who am I? It just took two years to figure out and like do a little soul searching and self discovery the time with the time I did have, So the pandemic was great for you personally personal growth wise. Hell yeah, I think, I mean,

I think I feel like I still got shipped. I need to work on. Of course, you're never going to not have shit. You should work on. No one's ever gonna be perfect. But as in being a totally perfect person, I'm not gonna be that. Being a totally flawed person, I'm not gonna be that either. That's fair. Well, shout out to my guy. I appreciate you finally pulling up. Man. I'm glad to be here anytime. Man, just let me know when you need me to come back, because I'll

come back. The album is crazy, I was saying, like, I mean, I've listened to pretty much every album this year. It's like up there for best album of the year. I mean, I know we're only a quarter of the way through the year, but it's an amazing body of work. Man, So congrats. Oh this been on my mind just for floor to rappers. Four or five four. Make sure y'all check that motherfucker out too. Okay, let's get it out there. Four or five four? Yeah, four five four. I'm a peep.

There it is, and damn is that it? That's all. I don't know what else. Ship. I always gotta, I gotta. I gotta end with this. You want to rap? Hell? No? Nah nah? I just wanted to end with like we still recording. Yeah, all right. If you're not a Denzel Curry fan for whatever reason, if you think I'm trash, if you think I'm ass, if you think I'm garbage, listen to this fucking album. And I bet you, I bet all my money that you would like this shit.

If you were a Denzel Curry fan and you left for whatever reason, bump this fucking album because you're gonna be a Denzel Curry fan again. That's what I believe. There's no doubt in my mind. There ain't gonna be no skips on this bitch. And you notice that's what I'm leaving off. Zero skips, fourteen tracks, zero skips, zero skips. It's two seven. I'm channeling God twice. Supreme mathematics. There it is