#147 - Conway The Machine

was some surprise features you got. I mean, we'll just got Beanie Siegull on the fucking project, which I don't think I remember hearing the first time you played it. Man, this is the Shady Records. This is your Shady Records commitment. You owe them one album. It's finally coming. How you feeling He's your debut. Let's be honest, but it's your Shady Records debut. Shady Records Interscope, my first album, I got Interscope. People calling me about you, like, hey, would

you be interested in interviewing Conway? Do you know who he is? I'm like, are you fucking getting me? A? Yeah? That's fine. How you feeling them? Man? I'm excited for the you know, finally be able to touch the streets. Man, people can get a chance to you know, to hear what I've been working on over the years. I mean, like I think that you have obviously had the Streets in your pocket all the Grisella has for the last

five six years. So knowing that this album was your Shady Records debut, you had to have had like a real vision as to what you wanted this to sound like. Because it's kind of been done for a while and you've put out so many other projects. What was like the main goal with this album? Like what was like when you were like, okay, like what what did a song have to have for to make this the cut? For this one? Just that pain, you know what I mean?

That feel you know what I'm saying. I wanted you know what I mean, Like, I just wanted that pain on the ship. You know records like you know the Kyle that was from this album, Like the car record was for God to make mistakes. Uh, you know, so I was always in that bag, you know what I'm saying. Just I just wanted to get niggast that pain the cow originally was meant for this album. Yeah wow, Yeah, that's crazy record of that ship. It was gonna be the intro to my album and uh, you know what

I mean, I don't know what the fuck happened. I came, when I came back, I left, and when I came back to Damrense your house. And you know what I'm saying, the little fuck played the play it for West and he took it West and threw his verse song and kept it for his album, his ship. You know what I'm saying. That's why I you know what I mean, when I when I make my ship with dren, try I keep my ship secret, Like, don't tell that motherfucker West.

Don't what I'm doing. Don't play these ships for West. You know what I'm saying. Right when I heard it beat, I picked with Old You know what I mean? Bro Go, Yeah, that did that happen a lot with this where you would have you had stuff recorded for this project and it ended up in other places like ship, Uh, Kyle bang with Eminem you know that ain't that didn't make Uh? You know that got leap and ship you Gotta City on the map with Wow that was for this album. Wow.

I want to say, I don't know if y'all remember that missed the Foogie ship that was for this album. May store was for a lot of What was she Gonna Do was for this album. Wow, it's crazy because what you could do is you could put a record like Bang as a bonus track. You gotta do the major label game now, you know, kind of hack the numbers a little bit, owners track action. Yeah, we're making so much ship though. We don't be tricking out that ship man, you know, like when we did the Cow,

Like you know what I'm saying. You got to fix the Cow on DSPs though, because on Spotify it doesn't say your name. Yeah, it's just west. Like when you when I search up Conway to the Cow doesn't come up. You gotta search up by side gun. Yeah, you guys gotta fix that. Heavmpire fix it. You gotta be a primary artist on that fucking record. You know. I'm used to giving my flowers. Are you feel like you're finally

getting them? Though? Yeah's see, just in general, I feel like the last couple of years you've I feel like people have finally started to give you the recognition is like top two three rap around Earth whenever you are are in your bag, that's still an understatement. I know how you feel. No, I know how you feel. No, no, but I know how you feel you're in this ship to be acknowledge is number one. But no, I'm just joking around though, man. But yeah, i feel like I'm

starting to starting to you know what I mean. I mean, I'm starting to see it more. I would say that I feel like it's probably you know, it's been a lot of guys, especially to me, the people that matter, Like, you know, I've been hearing ship like this from you know, early on, from like people like DJ Clark King, you know, saying my nigga Raj and a King combat Jack, you know, Nori and them, Wou tang Uh, you know Royce. You know, I mean I'm signing the eminem uh, you know, just

like people like that. Like I've been hearing that I've been getting my flowers from from you know, from them Buster. Yeah, when you get flowers from all those guys. Yeah, So you know, I'm a hip hop nigga, Like I'm a hip hop head like from like the nineties though, like the nineties, the Grammy nineties era, so like you know, you know, I had like Product, he was my big brother, feah me, like all all the people like that. You know, I mean that you would identify with from that era

in the grimmy nineties. Fuck with me, woutang watch the DMX. I was on DMX album personally to uh, you know the locks kissing styles and them of my brothers. You know what I'm saying, Like I said, p was my brother have on my album, my last album, you know what I'm saying. Method Man, Lemonade was a moment Math. It's kind of dope to see Meth through Lemonade in the verses too. Yeah, it was amazing to see I comet believe he did that with shout out to Meth

for that. But you know, like I was saying, like, you know, ship, like that is what mattered to me the most. So I don't really care about you know, niggas. You know niggas, I don't care about y'all listens, and I don't care about none of that ship. I do just from a competitor standpoint, just if because I'd just be feeling like, you know, that's what anybody you think niggas Look at the top seventy five NBA and like, man, how I ain't forty nine? What crazy average? You know

what I'm saying? Right, twenty five points for the people who did. I don't think they did that, and did they do that shit in order? I don't know, but I'm just nobody to hear you. Like, if you're Dwight Howard, you're pissed off you didn't make the list because you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, you probably don't make you lose

no sleep. It's like, I felt like I did enough to deserve, you know, the type of recognition, But at the same time, I really don't give a fuck about that, like because I feel like I'm already validated, and I wont because I got people like busting them niggas and Ray and Royce and Meth and you know what I'm saying, right like they told me I'm nice nas whole I mean, listen, you get the whole record finally, which was a moment.

I feel like last year in general, you had so many moments on when it came to just whether it was Dondo, whether it was working with Hole, I mean, just the DMX album, like just some real, just iconic rap shit bucket list ship probably last year that you could just check off, like Okay, we got a song with Hoe, you know what I mean? Okay, you know and Kanye shit. Okay, cool, you know what I'm saying, Like these are this bucket list shit. Being on DMX's

last album, knowing that you were on his album. Yeah, doing the BT Awards, knowing DMX wanted you. You know, you could have been on like a you know, a lot of times when people passed, we get an album afterwards, and sometimes the features aren't authorized. But like DMX talked about y'all's record, you know what I'm saying. So did

that feel good? Like last year? Obviously, like you know, list aside all that shit, like just personally on some like rap fan shit, the kind of shit you got to be a part of last year had to be real. Just had to feel good. Man, it felt amazing. I'm just so thankful and grateful for everybody that you know, play the part and and all of that. Like everything you named and even the stuff you didn't name, you did. Man,

you did a lot last year. One of my favorite records last year was the record DoD with j I D. That ship is fucking crazy. Yeah, that had me on fat and then obviously Scatterbrain came, but but just in general, yeah, there's just so much, man, I can just you know, it's just it's just truly truly amazing. Man. It's dope, Man, it's dope. A lot of a lot of moments. Let's

go through some of them. So talk about the J Record because obviously we always think about right before the pandemic hit, you performing the cow hugging hole on the side at Novo. I was at the show that was. That was the last show I went to before everything shut down. I think there was a lot of people's last shows in l A at least was. But how did the J Record end up finally happening, you know, because that's obviously when you start running in those circles.

You know, man, you know the universe is. You know what I'm saying is a motherfucker man. I just you know, man, Chad like, yoh got a joint? I need you to knockout? Is gonna be with you or Jay and kiss? I'm like, what you feel me like, it's the fuck out of here, Like not for real, bro, ship I did my verse at that time, they verses wasn't on it, so you just got the beat right. My huk was on right, right,

right right. You know what I'm saying. I'm just like yo, but I didn't even know that Jay was gonna be

on it until after I did it. Let me take that back, like cause like I think at first they I'm thinking they was talking like me, Jay Electronica and Jadakiss, they just said they said J So I was like, okay, okay, and uh so I did this ship and damn, I was wondering I wanted to hear it and shipn't like waiting on the whole versus like ole getting on this too, Like yeah, I told you j Jadakis you J and Jadakiss and jay Z Nigga. I'm like, man, get the

fuck out of here, you know what I mean? That shit just like that shit was just crazy to me, you know what I mean? And then uh man, you know, just shout out the whole. I don't want to say too much, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, what was your reaction though when you first heard the prop like when you first heard his verse next to your verse on a record, Like was it did the song already come out? Was it right before it came out?

Like yeah, nah, I ain't hear I ain't hear it, mantil it came out honestly, I didn't hear it, so it was available on dsp seah, and I was like sharing the link in the bio and shit like that. But man, that shit just was like, Man, I ain't gonna lie like out of the pop up bottle of Champagne, bottle of Spade, like and just on I was on celebratory time, like like what the fuck, bro, I'm really, god damn really doing this ship you know what I'm saying. And uh, you know we chopped, you know, man, Me,

me and Brick bro talk all the time. I've seen him at a I don't know y'all seeing the pictures and stuff. At the it was like the premiere or whatever, like the Harder They Fall premiere, and you know, I may kind of had a little chop or a little conversation. It was just like I couldn't believe, you know it just it just was like wow, Like, man, I wish I could share that convo with That's for y'all, though, Man, you know that's big with obviously you you being on DONDA.

I remember when he did the second stream and like that that song wasn't on there. I was like, what the fuck is going on? I was like, no, I was like, Jay, it ain't on the intro. I was, But did that come from I mean obviously we talked about how you and Gun went to Wyoming. Uh what was that like two years ago? Now right, it's been a minute. You want a couple of times? I want a few times out there? That's crazy? He did that record get made out there? Or was this something where

you had to be out there? So that was that was a record that's been cut for a while. Then, Yeah, a few cut a few that, Yeah, a few. I think that was the only one. I'm not sure how many like West did with him, but I'm not I cut a few out there with him. Maybe get one for the you know what, we'll see, we'll see, you know what I'm saying, We'll see. No for sure were you were you able to go to I know I saw from I remember Gun was on the porch with like Maryland man That ship was messed that one. That

ship was wild. I'm like the baby westside, Gun and Maryland Manson are just sitting there fresh off the Baby being canceled. Yeah, like what the fuck is going this is crazy going on. I missed that one, but I went to like the one in Atlanta, So you were you had to go to Atlanta? Did you get to like he had like the fucking he was like living there? Yeah? Yeah, I ain't go all the way like I was. I was in New York doing some stuff, so I was able.

I just kind of like flew out there for a day and dipped, Like I just went out there for like the like the concert or whatever. Right when he was out there with like the red shit on and all that. I remember that. Yeah, would you say how would you say you and Kanye's relationship is at this point, because like obviously if you've been to Wyoming a few times, you got to have some report with him. I liked it, man, It's dope. You know what I'm saying. I think we

got a you know, pretty good relationship. Like you know what I'm saying, if I need to, you know, tapping with Brous that's nothing to do. He fooled me and just the love the Man show. You know what I'm saying. I'm forever grateful, Like WHN I slept on a man ranch, you know what I'm saying. I was out there for a week or two longer than that. Probably that's crazy. I've been with him, and you know what I'm saying,

I've been to Doctor Dre House. Great fucking with Kanye first time, Like you know what I'm saying, Fucking Yeah, you had me at Doctor Dre like coming up with hooks and ship for Doctor Dre, you know what I mean here and unreleased little music and ship like he was playing he pressed play button on some fire like I've heard I got a funny ass story about that night. To please tell us the story. You can't give us the Dre story, not yet. Yeah, I don't know if

that's it's okay. Niggas want that out there. But how was dra dra? Cool ass dude man, And you know it was so cool about it. He actually remembered me and that ship like ship that remember me, like because I get there, Like it's funny because I was. I was. I've been on the ranch and I've been before I went to the ranch like he had a yeah before I was in Wyoming like yay had a studio, uh in Calabasas somewhere somewhere out there, like you know what

I'm saying. And I was out there, you know, working on some music and ship with him. But in Yay's studios, like real churchy vibes and shit, like you know what I mean, Yay on this. You know you're a Christian and stuff, So it's not really the same type of vibes that I may particularly be used to, Like we ain't drinking and smoking in the lab and all the homies and you know what I'm saying. It's like, you know, you got the choir in there, like people from like

church and stuff like this. So it's like it was kind of different from me too, because I never really like worked on like you know what I mean, I guess like Christian rap or stuff like that. Like you know, my my thing is, I'm grivy. It's all the time. You know what I'm saying, Like please never put please the sidebar just quick. Don't never put out a Christian

rap album, please say you know what I'm saying. But no, I'm just saying like I never I never, I never did, So it was kind of just new and stuff to me, right And uh so I'm out there and I'm out there for like a week, you know what I'm saying, recording, going there every day, and I just like, yo, man, so when we go to we go one day, I'm over there recording. Long story short, I'm over there at Ye Studio recording and we go to you know the

engineer yay w wasn't there. The engineers stopped the beating, like yo, I just got a text. Ya wants us to come over to Dre's because I think you know him and Dre was working on some stuff for the album. I'm like, you want us, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, we're all going over there. So we go to dre house, going there and shit, I'm just sitting in there and it's like it's mad people in a room. Like I'm

seeing people smoking and draking and shit. I'm like, oh, this is why I'm This is where I needed to be. That's what I've been missing. You feel me like Ship, I started rolling my backward up, you know what I'm saying, And Drake kind of like stepped off from the border. Ship turned around, you know what I'm saying, Look like, Okay, I remember you because we I met him for the first time at the Star unveiling for fifty cent Yeah, you guys were there, right, So that's when I met

him and he remembered me from that day. You know that's bucketless shit for me all just for Dreda know who you are, right, just for Dreda know who I am. Like that shit just like different for me. I heard the speakers at his house are crazy. This man's studios don't real. I couldn't believe what I was saying. I heard it so crazy. I heard like his speed, like he got the craziest ever saying. Now, but I've heard

about it. I have a lot. I know a lot of people who've been over there and they just say, oh man, that was the I couldn't believe I was there. I couldn't even believe I was there. Bro talk like shout out to Dre. Man, he showed love. You know what I'm saying in there? You know what I'm saying, Uh with Snoop oldest son, a couple of Dre homies

and shit like that, like it was just love. Like you know, we ended up working on some stuff actually, wow, you know what I man, Hopefully we'll hear it, hope, so hopefully hopefully we always hopefully y' all can work more with him. Yeah, Like doctor Dre is like a big inspiration, I mean, ship he just put out a six pack of records last week off of GTA, which was to work with Dre. Yeah. No, Dre learned from him and just watch him. Yeah, his creator I heard

his creative process is like very meticulous, very bro. I was watching that ship and I'm just like, bro, now I get it, like his ear for like the frequencieson it's so crazy bore, like the ship that you see and like that maybe in the videos and stuff where you know what I mean, now that I'm shooting videos and stuff, you know how we might like pretending, yeah, you might twist the now He's really he's really like like that. He really liked that right, very in the

every little, the smallest detail, that's what I hear. Genius. It's just amazing to watch in the studio that he got set up. It's just so ill like I couldn't believe.

I couldn't believe that I was there, Bro. Creative process wise, from what you witness from Dre to being in multiple sessions with ya Ya seems more of like a on the fly guy, like I've seen him recording everywhere from some crazy studios a choirs to like a mic in a hotel room, like a lot of like, uh, the good the Cruel summer ship was like just in a room with you know, so like what what what would you say? Like Yay's creative processes that you kind of

took from that was like a little different. Nah, yay, Yay liked that too, Like the same thing I was saying about Dre Like every little detail he's you know, it's very particular and very thought out. You know, he know what he wants, you know, the direction he want.

It was crazy, like I was fortunate, like my first day landing and out there and as soon as I get there, go to the ranch, he already in the studio and you got you know, we all in there and the man made like seven beats in front of a front of me and Benny asks, Benny, that's crazy, Like just like quick we wanted it. Like it was like we was in there all night. It was like a couple of hours of that. Like the man made

seven beats, fast as hell. That's wow. Like I was like when I got back to the you know where I was staying after we left, like and mind you we and his like in his personal space of it like it's house or whatever this ship is. This is Wyoming. Yeah, it's like this ship is crazy, like watching him the whole how you doing? Like he how he like? It's just dope. It's just it's just real dope man, to be able to say, Yo, I watched Kanye create music in the studio doctor Dre create, Like I'm watching Dre

make fucking a beat in the studio. It's crazy. That's real ship. Not a lot of people on earth what is dope to see? Like, I feel like quiet as kept man. You're probably one of the very few people on the play planet that can say Kanye's co sign me. I've worked with him, Eminem's co sign me, jay Z's co sign me, and we could go down the list. But like we're talking like it's crazy. J Wayne, Hey, we know we gotta stop the podcast real quick. Shout

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that right, Mozzi's on that record. It's funny because I like, I know Benny and Mozzi were on like a Damian Lillard remix together, but I always told Bennie, I was like, dude, I just want to hear you and Mozzi like really get down on some ship. Like I was like, Man, Berner really a and r the fuck out of that record. Yeah, Berner is too ill with it man. You know, I think you know, a lot of that shit get kind of overlooked for sure because he's so successful with his

other endeavors. Yeah, like his music, it's hard. Every tape, everything he dropped, man is fucking man shout and a good dude me. There's so much love I have to I ain't going from a can of paint. And you know what I'm saying, you go, I want you, want to get you on some ship, got me on some ship, will push you and then next you know, it's all mad and the ship and all and ship play video games like that ship. Just ever since then, I've just been like, kind of it's forever grateful. You guys are

like I feel like you, like Griselda. All three of y'all and Berner have a similar work ethic when it comes to putting out music. Just catalog like burn up around to drop four albums in a year. Two of them will be collab albums with like Currency or Doll God Rest all Soul, you know. But I feel like y'all have similar work ethics and just on the independent ship.

Like a lot of times it could be niggas on some lazy ship as artists, and then a lot of times toos, everybody don't be having a freedom to kind of release when they want, especially if they're on the major. Yeah, everybody, you know, it's the beauty of being, you know, kind of when you can do what you want. Berner can do what the fuck you want to do. You drop

five albums this month if you want. Well, I was just telling we just had Benny here last week, and I was like, yo, there's something about the fact Benny signed a death Jam and then tend to talk for it's still independent on Griselda and Empire, and the fact that y'all signed this whole shady fucking deal. Was it

seven years ago? Six years ago? It's been some years, right, it's been a minute, and you guys were able to just drop whatever the fuck you want while still being on a major, but still technically being on a major independently keep all of that and then picking you know, hey, look this is a shady album, but everything else is separate. Not a lot of people got that deal. Yeah, I mean, just you know, we ain't really trying to like sign it,

uh like regular deal. Like if I can't when I'm looking at going into Dell's, Like, if I can't at least be partners, what are we doing? Right? Yeah? I think that so like when I'm part know this, when I have these partnerships, you know what I'm doing with my other entities. Ship, don't got nothing to do it this over here? You feeling shit? That's a drum work tape, you know what I man, they work out kind of

kind of good when you just move like that. Like I like to be partners, you know what I'm saying on this album? Some great production. Let's go through. Who else got beats on the album? I got Alchemists on there? Of course, Automatic definitely got to have my brother Dan darren S probably produced the most records on it. Only right, Justice League. I got some shit with Justice League, justt some ship with uh you know Cosmo, Yeah, Cosmo beats.

He did a lot of burnersh Cosmos burners right hand. Yeah, they didn't know album together last year. Shots. That's my brother. Shout out to Berner for connecting that. Cosmos A great guy man. Absolutely, I got Bank on there. I have hit boy on there. Of course, I want to think that's I think that's about it. You getting Beanie on the project had I mean, Beanie Tommy is probably like top three or four smost slept on rappers ever. When we think about just the respect that like, we don't

talk about Beanie like I think we should. And you know, as far as being an all time great, I think he's in those conversations and they Uh, that was one of the features that I didn't hear when you played me the album. So I'm assuming that was something that probably happened the last I don't know what twelve months or something. Yeah, that happened. That happened pretty recently. Beans came to Buffalo and you know what I'm saying, Beans

in Buffalo. Yeah, he came to Buffalo and you know, kind of getting next to me and ship and like you all came to come fuck with you niggas, you know what I'm saying. Like, and we asked some some very very very dope conversations. Man, you know the stuff that you know, he wanted to come to Buffalo and just the conversations he wanted to have with me that you know, I ain't gonna talk about on camera and shit. But he's been through a lot, manop Man, just dope

that he came to me for that. You know what I'm saying. It's different when someone comes to you, especially in your hometown. You know what I mean. Man, that's different. You could link up with someone in Atlanta or LA that's easy. But like someone coming to Buffalo security and none of that ship like just some regular shit. Man. How long was he in Buffalo? A couple of days? Yeah? Like a week? Oh? Ship? So he tapped in. How he was cooking. We knocked a few ships out. Wow,

That's what I'm saying. Like we we we about to we we got some something up our sleeve. Way, hold on, hold on, Conway, Beanie project, more more than that, more than that. Mm hmmm, Conway, are you bringing Beanie the drum work? Well? See it, Beanie s going drum work. I don't know, man, you know, I don't know. I don't know what the future. But you know, we've been cooking. You know what I would say, I love Beanie. I would say to him, Yo, man, you're independent now. He

really being the goat that he is. He just got to run up his his ship now because I feel like finally, like you know, he's having a moment right now, like yeah, you know I saw him in with Game. Yeah that's all I'm telling. I heard some ship. Game played me. I want to say, Game played me a record that you were on that's unreleased. Yeah, yeah I did some ship with Game. You know what I'm saying. I was I was wondering was he keeping that or not? But listen, he's got like seventy five songs. Yeah, so

yeah I did some ship with Game. You know what I'm saying, shout out the homie, Game Man, you patched in, Like, Yo, bros, let's get one in. Let's do it. You know what I'm saying. I mean, you know, I fuck with everybody man, like I just like to cook. Yeah, so it's just be dope that niggas that I you know, I listened to and when I was on the uprise of this shit, you know, wanting to collaborate with me, that should be meaning a lot. So when the homie patched then, like yo,

want to get one in. I'm let when you guys first started out and you guys were getting some of these features right, like wh where there was like bust of rhymes. It's like some of the early like dope, bigger features you guys were getting. Did you guys ever have to pay for any of those features early on? Never? Never, it was always a respect thing. Always it was organic,

especially for me. I don't even want to work with you, no matter how uh talented you may be, none of that shit or how lich you is or hot you is on radio or none of it. Like, if it's not organic, if I never like like we ain't never cross paths or at least like even on the internet way like you know, damn, Like, if it's not love, the gotta just feel organic, like I'm not just I don't care about the numbers, like perception and work with nobody thinking like, oh, nigga, I get a song with him,

it's going I'm gonna blow. It's gonna be a hit. Like I fuck with niggas that fuck with me. I fuck with everybody, But when it comes to being, you know, collabing and making music, I fuck with it. Gotta be organic, man, real nigga ship like you know what I'm saying, so like uh like saying that's big. Listen whatever y'all got coming, Like Buster like I said, I'm in a stool bus the nigga, I'm hugging buss like bus like nigga, I love you king type ship. He took me in like

as a brother, as a little brother. Ray Kwan and them niggas like I've been fucking with Chef, like even before he even knew I rapped, like I just was around him. He met me in Buffalo and ship for the first time. So I'm at a couple of parties and just you know, around and every time he would be around me, just you know, I'm on my square. You feel me. I'm flying. I'm always was a flying nigga, you know what I'm saying, having a couple of dollars

and ship anyway. So but I never really brought up like, yeah, I rap, I do music. You know what I'm saying. You know this was this is for any of that. You know what I'm saying. When he finally start hearing, man, people like I know I've been around you say nothing. You know what I'm saying. So it's just everything, It's just all organic. Early on before a lot of them

niggas with suckers, man, they ain't funk with us. Saying, I'm trying to like collab, Like you know what I'm saying, They ain't want to collab either, like try to like charge the niggas astronomical prices, or they just be on some sucker. She's like, oh yeah, it's like my math, and then you never hear it from him again. They'll reply, they don't respond. A lot of fuck niggas like that. You know what I'm saying. I feel like that's the rap game in the nutshell that you just said, yea,

it is. It's a lot of people running into each others and being like, Yo, let's work that should still go on even in like people that's on in the industry made this. I got records on on my album right now. God, don't make mistakes that. You know what I'm saying That I communicated, we kicked and chopped it up with the roway and you know what I'm saying, gonna say no names, but we do the song and then you know they sit the managers and the lawyers

on you, and then they don't listen. You know, you know, you you got a record you didn't they don't want to clear it. You got a record that you've played me exactly. You know the record exactly. That's that That's a real hit record. That is the problem why we probably were never gonna hear it is because of some of the industry suck street, sucker ship and this is a crazy record. This is a record that, like to me,

is like you could change your life type shit. It's like wild to me, Like when I hear something like that and I'm like, yo, how the fuck is this not getting clear? Because like like imagine if that song just never comes out, or that beat never comes out, or that hook never comes out, It's like what, Yeah, it's wild. I played you know, I play the game wrong kind of you know what I mean. Sometimes you gotta you gotta switch up your your strategies, you know

what I'm saying. In some situations, like in that situation, I kind of like put it in a you know, and and other people's hands to get that get it done. Yeah, taken care of when I should have just went and just with the shoe box and grabbed the money and just handway as mine. I just get reinbursed later. Has Drake ever reached out to you? Obviously, Drake and Bennigain, that's my niggah. We chop it up, you know what

I'm saying. We chopped it up, and I ran between him a couple of times in person and chopped it up in the DMS and ship on the gram and all that. But we ain't never do no music or nothing together. But you know that's my niggas love. Like again, like I'm not a nigga that like when I meet niggas and I see niggas, Yo, let's do a fucking song. No, if it happens, it happens, right, if it's organic, if

it's like you said, it's all about organic shit. And you know, I just feel like from the conversations and shit, and you know how we greet each other and you know, I feel like that's not nothing that's would be difficult to happen. Like if I if it just came into it, like yo, let's cook one drizzy like nigga, let's go.

You know what I'm saying. I got you saying. Let's working with Wayne on this album had to be that was one of the features that has been on there because I had heard it a couple, you know, a while ago. So obviously Wayne is you know peak, Wayne is up there with like Peak fifty Peak Snoop as far as this most famous, biggest motherfucker's alive, as far

as like his run was just impeccable. Wayne, I feel like it's always super tapped in when it comes to like real lyrical shit, even when he was in jail, Like he had an interview where he said, as soon as he get it get out of Joey wanted to work with Tech nine. That was like in twenty ten or some shit, you know what I mean. But I feel like he's always super tapped in, Like how did the Wayne shit end up just happening? Honestly? Uh, my

nigga Too Chains trut out to change man. And I never maybe I never at this point, I had never even met Too Chains or nothing. I don't even think we even did any music together or anything. It's just and Wayne told this story like, man, you know, two Chains was just hitting me. It was like, Yo, you gotta hear this Gizelda shit, you gotta hear this nigga Conway,

you know what I'm saying and stuff. So and Wayne was just tapped in and that's when he reached out and like immediately like yo, I gotta do something with them dudes. And that's when he had me and Benny on a Roulette album. Uh on a funeral or whatever. I think the song is Roulette, but yeah, that's how that should happened. It reached out. We did the joint swap like I got one for you. He was you know.

I think I went on his podcast and I remember that like, yeah, you know you need anything, man, you let me know. Man. As a matter of fact, I got one. Yeah, I got one for you right now. And he sent that ship back in the day. And then we linked up more like it's always love. Like again, like I said when I see him, was love. We linked up again like in his studio. Miami. Yeah, Miami. We cooked up some a bunch of ship and like both you guys are sports heads too, just watching Wayne Cook.

We got some crazy ship. We got a joint where we're going back and forth, like you know what I'm saying in and out. I'm telling you what I'm telling you. I don't know what's going on with that joint, but you and Wayne just going back and forth crazy on some some some some kiss style ship. Yeah. Wow, Yeah, it's crazy because we always hear Wayne don't write and ship right like, it's all shout out mac Maine. Mac Maine is a great guy. A lot of that ship for me too. That's my brother. Like we talk a

lot like man, Mac talk all the time. That's fucking crazy. Back and forth, yeah, back and forth, some crazy shit. I can't wait. I hope this ship come out man Carter six or something cooking. I'm just watching them and and cook. I was in there, that's the crazy shit. I was there. I left Wayne and went to the ranch with Yeah, just bucking this ship, bro, ship got some real ship. Hey, we gotta stuff the podcast man real quick. Appreciate y'all for watching, really mean mean it.

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you are probably the best. Like when we think of eras of hip hop, and we think of like who we grew up listening to and who was the best when we were growing up, whether it was Nas, whether it was Kiss, whether it was Hove, Big al whatever, you're that guy right now, so like are like I think in fifteen years, we're gonna look back and be like, man, we was. Do you remember the Conway Griselda Era. Yeah,

that's dope, That's that's man. You know, And I know how important that shit is to you because because you know, I was talking to Benny, and like Benny's like very kind of on the opposite end of the spectrum because I know you give a fuck as far as like you're going for that number one spot because it matters to you. Benny's kind of nonchalant about it. He's like, look, people are gonna give me say what they're gonna say,

or they're not gonna say with it. I know how important that is to you to make sure motherfuckers really put that on your name. Like I feel about this ship. Any want to be the best. That's why I'm motherfucking on sleep. And it's just NonStop. He is NonStop for sure, Like he all over the place everywhere, Like Benny, I know you guys did this and we talked about this

in the interview that him and I did. To just drop music right now, Tan to talk four coming out, I think March eleventh, you guys have a song called

Tyson Versa Ali that everyone will hear. That's I thought an important record because I kind of feel like when it comes to just like the Griselda fans and the there's like a Griselda Reddit thread and like there's like, you know, there's just this little world of like hardcore Griselda fans, and I feel like you guys kind of like put a lot of that, like some of the dumb narratives that people create that is not non existing kind of to sleep on that record in terms of

just being like, yo, like we're family. At the end of the day. If you're doing good, I'm doing Like we're happy for each other. Yeah, And at the end of the day, that's really what it is, you know what I'm saying. Like you know, you know, people tend to love like, I don't know, like a story like a they love a storyline like it's the wrestling ship. Yeah. People want to be like, yo, what's that all that ship? Man?

You feel me like, we it's just it's just crazy because all of our lives and our careers is taking off and just at a trajectory that we didn't even plan. I don't think you know what I'm saying. Like Benny on top of the fucking world right now, you feel me. He's doing a million things, doing his own ship west side, the same way on the top of the world, doing a million ship over here with it. I'm doing a bunch of shit, you know what I'm saying. We all

just be coming, you know, we're growing. This is this I mean, look at best case scenario. This should have been the playing the whole time, right Yeah. Yeah, It's like like, man, this is the best case scenario. Is what's happening? Yeah? Man, you know absolutely, But now that record is crazy. That ship Tyson versus Ali, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say you're Ali. Are we saying you're Ali in this in the Tyson verse? Ali? I guess? So you know what I mean? Shot shout out to Tanna

talk for though. Uh man, you guys are gonna have a crazy, like three or four weeks as a crew because between your ship and his ship. Man, it's good. It's gonna start feeling like twenty twenty and this motherfucker all over again. Time, man, take over. Talk to me about drum work. You know, Jay just played some Crazy

Records Crazy. I know how much of like a hip hop historian you are, And I kind of felt like last year's project to me felt a little kind of like Jay's Dynasty album in terms of like a great way for you to introduce your roster in the form of a Conway album. Will there be like an official drum work project coming? Yeah, Yeah, we're doing, We're gonna, We're gonna probably you know what I'm saying, fuck them up with a compilation. We got about we got a lot of songs done. We got some songs done for

that ship already. You know, It's just I've been having so much shit going on right it kind of got put on pause with uh, you know, everything that's been happening for me, Like you know what I'm saying, Like damn X album stuff, being on that and the BT Awards. The tour happened like right after that. Yeah, the tour was lit. Now I'm an album circuit for my ship for God to make my stores and I'm going on the world tour stuff. So it's like kind of like,

are you excited for the world to our? Yeah? Yeah, I ain't never been overseas man. Yeah, it's different. Over there. I've only been to a couple of cities. Well since I well, now that I've been touring, I've been to a lot of a lot of shit. I've been on tours, like my first time going, were you able like like obviously, were you ever ever able to go to Canada? Because it's tough to get into Canada if you have certain charges. You know, before you know, nine to eleven, it was easy.

You could just go over there and even look, you look at your idea and they just roll your wonder not where you're from us and we're going We're going to the mall switched up. Though now now it's it's tough. It's tough. Could you even do shows over there? I got shows booked over there for the tour, That's what I'm saying. I got like a whole Canada, like Montreal. It's just a I heard a week. I know certain people like that. Man, I'd love to go to Canada.

I just can't. They want to be in the country type ship. It's weird, but it's definitely strange when after this project comes out, you got the world tour. We know how active you are. We might fuck around and get four fucking albums this year from you. Yeah, yeah, it definitely is. Well. I would say, what's the playing the rest of the year? Man? Then Alchemists cooking back up again okay, and Chase is doing a nice little ep for the streets. I'm doing something my nigga, Lord

Flee shout out to Flee. Uh stood me up when he was in La was supposed to be on the show. You didn't come doing one more little installment of the Big Ghost trilogy. We got to figure out how Big Ghost is. We do we big ghosts? Bro? Yeah, we gotta get we gotta get hit on the fun. He's just a mystery at this point. And I'm doing like I'm doing some some some business with Empire too for the next album. So let me ask you this, like, would there ever be a point in time not to

be in the Griselda business? But were you like, obviously it's always Griselda, But were you like leave the label as far as like tractually or do you kind of feel like you're always kind of be I'm contractually done now, So any music moving forward is going to be drum work. Yeah, yeah, drum work I mean as of right now. Yeah, like sitting right here right now, like I'm not on a contract with Griselda Shady none of that ship no more. I mean ship. Is this the first time in your

career that it's free agency right now? You heard with that being said, and we all need that man, I need that super Max, Man, I need the yan Yana's bag. Yeah, and even if that doesn't happen, it's still you know, Griselda is still family. Gun is still family. Of course. That's that's for life. You know what I'm saying, man and me and Broke. You know what I'm saying, I put that ship on my back, man, West took that

we've been No. I mean, the the analogy you had about doing the construction and all that is very uh yeah, that's some real ship. Are you guys trying to you know, do the you know, do the extension or you just kind of we haven't really talked about that. Who knows, Like I'm sure you know what I mean. That's yeah, all of our intentions, you know what I'm saying in the perfect worldly minds, like you know what I'm saying.

I'm just saying that's right now, like it's the end, Like you know, the paperwork I signed was it's been fulfilled. It's been fulfilled as well as with it was all in together like my Shady paperwork and Griselda paperwork. Everything has been forfilled and it's been fulfilled. And now it's time to sit back at the round table and figure out the future. What it got in store for me?

And you know or just get or you know. Ghazi will just give you that that drum work situation at Empire and then and now you are, you got your own man, you got just take the flight to San Francisco. Figured it out, Ghazi and Nima and hey man, old Ghazi gonna take good care of you. I want to think about Old Ghazi one hundred per one hundred percent. Damn, how much of the Alchemist project do you have finished? We don't even start yet, you haven't. But it's in

the plan to do the sequel. Yeah, he on tour right now now, I'm doing this ship, so he ain't really had time for us to sit down together and like calling through some beats or like family center batch or shit or whatever. But it's definitely coming. Lulu too, I don't know who my name that ship, Lulu too. I think you give you a new name. I think you have a new name, you know, I think I still got more at that story of paint okay, but

who knows. It's not been named yet, and you know what I'm saying, but it's definitely happening and coming out in the very near future this year, like very very So that's the next shit I'm working on. And then hopefully we figure out what this Beanie Seagull mystery shit is that you just that you just laid on us.

I mean, you know, listen, many just signing to trying to think about for the for the people watching speculate, Hey, if uh someone who's not affiliated with you currently, right, taking out the Griselda roster, the drumwork roster, who would be an artist if you could pick, and and let's even take out like jay Z and Nas and Lil Wayne, all these obvious answers, who's an artist that you could that you if you could pick, to do a whole

album with. You know what I'm saying, that you think could just hang with you with the bars that you think would just be dope like semi mainstream, you know, but like obviously you could be like I want to do an album with Drake or jay Z And that's like low hanging fruit, Like, give me, give me a name signed out to the fire? Who? Like who I would love to just who you think would be hard? Who you think the fans would appreciate too? That's a great question. Uh why? Oh that's a great question, man,

That's a great fucking question. Man. I don't know. I really don't know who I can think you know what I'm saying, Like, probably like who would I want to do take with? Like that'll be crazy, man, I have no idea, bro, something that might be random. Maybe Russ Kiss or Styles would be hard. Yeah, low key Lemonade was such a moment. You a method man, A little six piece with meth might be crazy. That will be insane. And me and Russ me in locks? Yeah, probably probably

mean math. How about this you and Mazi a fuck? That would be crazy? I feel like on the just on talking about the pain and the relatability and the bars. Mazi is him on this side. And congrats to Mazi who just signed with CMG. Yeah that's fire. I saw that he got a nice situation too, so shout out to MASI sweet situation. All right, So this album, man, it's out bubble for ship. This probably will come out right before the album drops. Albums out the twenty fifth,

the twenty fifth, twenty fifth, make mistakes. How much input did M have on this project? If any? No? None? You just sending the album. This is it him and you know what about feedback? Wise did he get does he give your feedback? Yeah? But it was I'm gonna keep it on it. I Uh. I went to Detroit and it was in you know, in the studio and Paul Royce and blame them the album front and back and he fucked with every record. I was like, this shit,

this is ready to go. And that's when like he he jumped on a bang and fifty got on the city on the map joint like that. Even though we lost those records, but that's what I'm saying. I played them in the tape. It was like I didn't have it wasn't that was the critique, Like, Yo, this ship is fucking amazing, this is ready, this is ready. Do you even like have anyone who's critique you like or like like who even has the power to tell you like, yeah, this one ain't in take it off like or you

give you give a fuck? Like if whether it's gone or Am or somebody everybody. If I respect them and they like a pair of my craft, you know what I'm saying. They give you input you're open to up right. You know, if I'm a pilot and I fly planes for a living, like somebody that just took a flight here and there can't tell me how I should have landed the flight, you know what I'm saying. But like it's another pilot that flies to and been flying longer than me or whatever, like I take I ain't one

of those type of dudes. I'm opening criticism, you know what I'm saying, likes to be like, yeah, no, I think you could have said that last line a little harder, little little iller that you could have ended that better. I could have You know, we we've done that. And Benny, when we cook and stuff together, you know, maybe tell each other like, nah, bro, say that little say that last part a little better. You know what I'm saying, Oh why are you talking about that last line? I

got you? You know what I'm saying, was that West? Tell me? Like tell me you know what I'm saying. You know that versus a Just just see I love this impersonation oh you go a little crazier. Hey, were you at the Chiefs game? Which one? The one? I mean the one? No, I didn't go to that one, you know what. I was saving my energy for the super Bowl. I ain't going to that because the Bengals had already handled their business. So I knew once we beat the Chiefs, we had us another home game and

the playoff super Bowl and then the super Bowl. So I'm like, I will go to that game. Yeah when that confetti fall, so I can, you know, get on the parade flow like Kevin Hart and all that shit. You feel what? Unfortunately, you know what I'm saying. How

was you know? I can't imagine the emotional roller coaster that that game was to be a Bills fan because that ship as a as just a football fan, I was on the that was probably the best game I've ever watched, ever watched, Like I think Texas versus USC when it was Vince Young and Matt Lioner was one of them. You know what I'm saying. But NFL wise, I can't think of a better game game man, perfect quarterbacks,

perfect ratings. Both had perfect games like for Patrick two weeks to row perfect games, but job man, was I mean, if not Patrick for Josh, for Josh, yeah for sure, But for me personally, that kind of stung worse than I was losing them Super Bowls man. Yeah, because you were probably a lot younger at the time. I was guted. I ain't gonna lie like you know, you know, watch Josh March just down there score a two point version thirty nine, thirty six. We you know, thirteen seconds left.

The coach and Josh they hugging, and it's just I'm in my house. I remember what like me and everybody in my house just running back and forth, going crazy and too much time. I know it was. I know we was in trouble. When they kicked the touchback and they didn't just like let some of the less some of the clock. I'm like, do the squire kick right, I'm like, you take three four seconds off that clock.

It matters easily. So I'm like, wait a minute. And then saw the defense like the whole middle of the field and they got time out was left. I'm like, scratch whitehead and that first first down I'm like, this shit ain't over. And at least y'all got Josh Allen for the rest of the fucking for the rest of his career. He ain't going nowhere. Yeah, man, y'all got one. Yeah,

we got one. Man. I think Josh guy has to be of course, outside of like the Brady's and the Errands, I think I will take Josh Allen before any of them niggas. I might agree with you. Give me Josh Allen because you know what you got. You got the threat of that run. Yeah, you got the heart. He's like, who I wish Kyler Murray? Like, he's like who I think Kyler Murray actually is? But Josh Allen is really him? Yeah? Is Kyler Murray's five feet to Jackson? I love you

know what I'm saying. Patrick Mahomes, I love Burrow, Patrick Mahomes. Fucking family annoys me. I can't deal with what's the homie hout here? Stafford. Herbert's a beast. I love Herbert and it's my time to pick. And I know what I know why watching the why what I've seen so far in their careers. Me, Josh, that's five to sixty two seventy whatever it is, running and throwing like the rocket iron with that heart and that dog getting like that.

Give me that one that's some real shit. Hey, you're I think why people love you so much, man, is because you are extremely transparent, You're extremely honest, You're extremely vulnerable when you rap and when it comes to just like everyday ship that everyone deals with that most rappers are too cool to even talk about, whether it's being depressed sometimes, whether it's being down at just down and out,

you know what I mean. That ship is something that I think the big reason why a lot of people relate to your ship for people who are going through some shiit because it happens normal people. A lot of your fans go through shit, man, Like when you're in those spaces mentally, Like, what is some advice you could give to people to try to get through it, man?

Because I know you've been in some dark places. Uh, you know, talk to somebody, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, it's just it's it's better to talk to somebody, you know what I'm saying. I was one of the type of people that kind of like just keep ship bottled in kind of you know, compartmentalize and keep that ship like I'm good. You know what I'm saying. Yo, Shit's good, bro, You good like yeah, I'm good. You

know what I'm saying. It's like it's better to just have you somebody that you you fuck with, whether it's like your girl or your your you know, your mom, or your uncle, one of your homeboys, or somebody that you know you trust, you trust that you know that give a fuck about you unconditionally. Like you know what I'm saying, I got love for you, regardless of what you're going through. I'm gonna be here to support whatever decision. And you know, as long as it ain't like bad

yo's negative ship, but like I'm here for you. You got that. You know, we all got that one person that you know, we always can get count on to give us the ear and we feel like, you know, talk to that person, hit that person up and just talk. You know what I'm saying. Like I felt so much relief when I talk to somebody for some reason, and my whole life I was just was the total opposite. Like I don't I bottle up, I don't talk. I

just like and then just like it's festers good. It's like that ain't good you start dealing with it in bad ways, you know what I'm saying. So like now I have people. You know what I'm saying. I have people like that I could, you know, just like even today, you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna give you example,

like I'm gonna keep it a buck. Like I was kind of like frustrated and shit about some ship that kind of fucked with me, me out my zone, like you know, me out my good energy, my good space, and I'm like, fuck everything, I ain't doing metafit IMB, I booked my flight. I'm going home. I ain't doing none of the interviews, none of that ship is over. Fuck that, you know. I just gotta tell you know my old I just caught myself and I just like wrote me up one and I called that person who

I was just talking about that you gotta have. I called that person who's that for me and just talk to them about like she gotta be mad as hell. Oh man, I'm tired of like, no, you need you know what I'm saying, and you go from there. You don't have to just do what you know, you make your own decision. At least you have someone that I'm just gonna give you what I think. Now you listen or you do it or whatever. That's on you, but

I don't think you should do that. That's not good, like important to have that person out when you're doing all this and that, like you say yourself back. You know what I'm saying. That's important. You know, me and you are both degenerous sports gamblers. Sports gambling is so much fun. I love it, but I also hated I hate it, but I love it. You've posted some amazing tickets. You've had some fucking hints, especially when you started. You were hitting some of those alternate lines where you were

between thirteen and sevente eight shit like that. You was on a run. But we don't see the losses. I had a really bad year last year. Bounce back, finally, take me through the worst time as a sports gambler you've been through, like just whether it was just because when you take a big loss, there is no feeling like that in the world. It sucks. Yes, I ain't

gonna like. The only thing that's worse than if I like that big and I lose is if like, for example, recently, this shit happened, I lost literally by like a half a point, Like that's the worst, Like was it to parlay? Yeah, Like it was like a six, pick, parlay everything, and I would have won like double digit thousands of dollars. And fucking for me, it was Mike White from the fucking chest. It was uh, it was that fucked me into But it was the Bucks. I had Giannis playing

special forty four and a half. He had forty four in the third quarter. It was that rebounds and points was winning by thirty, right and it was winning by thirty. So he took him and played the old four. Just needed a alf a fucking one, get a rebound, get something. I was I was like, yo, that's the worst. You're like, yo, Hopefully this team goes on a run. And they got to put him back in. I've been there, I've been there. I had, uh the Bills go to the super Bowl.

I put a ticket in eight grand would have played me seventy two thousand. I did it at the beginning of the season, and that was close because if y'all would have got through that game, no way. The Bengals are survival. Man, what will look like kittens? If someone had to give you, let's say you had to put you had to throw ten grand down on a future for the NBA Championship, Who's making the finals right now, right now, I'm gonna say, I gotta give it to Ukta.

I gotta say Phoenix. I want to say Golden State. Man they not. I haven't seen finals yet, but you know, motherfuckers could get warm every That's my mom. I think, I think. I think Clay is not the same guy defensively anymore, which I think is a problem. I think that's the problem is defensively Clay is not who he was three years ago. So who's gonna guard Devin Booker and Chris Paul in the Western Conference finals. It's not gonna be Clay and Steph Wiggans know they're gonna throw

Gary Payton in there. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, then you got Then you leave mckil bridges open in the corner. Jay Crowder, gam Johnson, thank you all right? What about the East? What about the East? So you like the trade? I love the trade. I think Brooklyn should fuck around and try to get the seven seed or eight seed so they have more games Kyrie can play in in the playoffs, because if they got home court advantage, he can only play in a certain he

can only play in three of the games. If it's a seven game series because if they play at home, he can't play. You'd almost rather go play away the whole fucking playoffs, so Kyrie can play. As long as we got old number seven. Man, Katie's a killer. We fine. Did you see the Did you see the draft with him and Lebron? The All Star drafts? Broy Lebron Purposely, they purposely left hard and out there this is the

day of the trade. Purposely did no one took heart at And Charles Barkley and Shack are roasting the ship the whole time. Katie's just sitting there with a straight face, annoyed as fuck. And it comes down to Rudy Gobert and James Harden and Charles Barkley is like, let me guess KD. You need some size right now. I gotta check that. Yeah, it's crazy. We'll listen to the album. Man, go run that ship up. It's gonna be a big year for drum More. It's gonna be a big year

for you looking forward to what everything you got going on? Man, do you have I know the weed Ship? Are you still doing the weed Ship? Yeah? I'm still sucking a little used to got the strain that I mean because now the New York ship's legal. So yeah, it's kind of you know, I got more in store for that, you know what it's saying. I got a lot of ship going on for this. What is the next you know year? And the merchant is always booming. Yeah, merch is going crazy. The merchant is going Do you have

a special drop coming for the album? Yes? Yeah, I got some sneakers on the way. I got sneakers, some Air Force ones. We just got ship going on custom Air Forces. I got some ship going on. Okay, well there it is. Man, the machine, the machine. How many? How many times have we done this? We've done this a lot. Now you already know. Hey, I will say this. I was in Buffalo and I actually got to go. We went went to the east side of Buffalo, went to the street you grew up on your family's house.

Across the street was where the house used to be that you used to trap out of it. But it was an empty field. I think now, man, I would just say this, Man, the hospitality showed me out there was amazing. And I never I always say this, I've never seen I've been there everywhere, right, I've been there Atlanta. I've been to Florida, been everywhere. I've never seen somebody

really run their city like y'all got Buffalo. Wherever we went, we saw the hoodies, the hats, the chains, the bill boards, like everywhere everywhere you look, it's you ben your gun in some capacity, and it's truly like a wild thing. Man. And anybody who's never been to Buffalo, Yo, go chet just go check, go check, go tap boff. Just don't go to the New Era store thinking it's gonna be some heat because that ship was weak. I thank god.

We were so excited when we found out New Era started in Buffalo and our hotel was across the street from the store. We walked in that bitch like we about to come up on some heat. It was not it anyway. Conway, the machine boom