#145 - TK Kirkland

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So Bootleg Cab been trying to get me on the air for the last few months, and when I found I was coming to town, I said, Okay, I'll do it. So I had another interview with Sway this morning. So I'm still not paying attention. Right, So I get here and I sit there because I'm waiting for boot Like Cab to come in right right, So I'm sitting up in the lobby ars time waiting for boot Le Cab to come in because I never knew it was him,

and I never thought he was white. I thought he was this black guy from the last show when we did it. Over thought that. Yeah, so I'm thinking old co host. It was bout le Kevin and I mean into him a manute of the gay yeah. And I'm like, you confused right now. So that's why I came. I wait to the I went to the brother come in. You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna sit there with the brother, so I'm chilling, you know. And I said when boot Lake Cab come because I had to

go get chips on the soda. He was like, Yo, when's your guy getting here? I'm like, which guy? You're right, because he's like yeah, I'm like I'm old school. I'm like, rid the fucking my snacks, Like you know, I'm old school. Like see back in real stations, back in the day, they have donuts, they have chips for the care of an independent operation. When I came, I said, you know, Bootleg Cav, I want my four dollars back for my my chips and my soda. He made you pay for

the chips. I paid for the chips, this offending machine in the locks. So my point again is I did not know Bootleg Cab was a white guy, Ladies, gentlemen, I think a lot of people don't know. For some reason, I thought it was a black dude that I was waiting on, but not at all. And you know, me and your son are really good friends, and I'm not yes, and I didn't know it was a white guy. And the last time you did our show, it was because your son. My son has hooked up all the stuff.

But I thought the black dude was Bootleg Cab. So when I saw DJ Head today, you were like, I'm a miliator. I don't know. I thought he was somebody totally different because I was like, yo, I know you. He said, yeah, you you did something with me and your son, But I couldn't put two and two together. Now it all come full circle. He was there at the real station. You was there. I'm thinking it was his show at that time. Yeah, we had a show

together to show together. That's where the confusion came. That's some funny ship that made my day. Well there's another brother here now, James Andre. We don't really care about him, and let me tell you, because he got to earn his strice. He's a young comic, yes, and we make young comics. We gotta be hard on him. So that way when they when they get to that certain level, they sit down and the tika cookling, and he gave

him a flower. His motherucker kept the real you know, he was telling the motherfuckers and it's because of him. Is where I am today, shout out, That's what happens. Happened to him. That's that's what helpens when you get when communions. I came home and get old and they blow up. They started talking about how the ogs put them on game, like he'll become a multi millionaire acting and all that, and he'll talk about this moment you're

big care. That was that big care, big k Ka and tk Kirk and you know, and somebody said inspired me and then it just went on from me and just took it in WID's history. Is that your young comic voice or is that just specifically made I'm just making it. Whoever the other person is, you're here, obviously you're a legendary comedian. I feel like comedy has been in an extremely interesting space, uh, in the last four

or five years in terms of like, you know, free speech. Yeah, you know, people being offended because I feel like, you know, comedians in general, like we kind of looked to comedians to say the ship that we can't say right, right right, to make light of certain situations that maybe there is no light in right. Where do you feel like the comedy game is right now? Do you like where it's at? I know there's a lot of dope up and coming

young commedity. You have to be smart, like if you work for somebody, you have sponsors, you work for somebody, you have to protect your money because the goal to do this business is to get paid, right, not to put you on the position to diffuse yourself. I'm gonna speak my mind because then you're not a businessman, right See, if you're a businessman, you gotta fall back, because don't nobody everybody claims to say, oh yo, you kept it real,

you're here for the people. But I think twenty thirty years from now, when you're old and you and broke and you need something, and them saying people that said keep it you did right, ain't gonna be by your side, right you know? Yeah, So dude, you gotta you gotta

be a businessman. What are your thoughts on this whole Joe Rogan controversy that's been happening in the last couple It was interesting they gave him a hard time, but it goes to show you how they are really behind him and they really respect him, you know, because it was anybody else, even a step underneath him, it had been over like in terms of like, obviously he's had a very successful podcast. You have a successful podcast. He's kind of looked at as like someone who's helped a

lot of comedians with his platform over the years. Quite sure he has. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get on Joe Rogan this year, but you can't miss him because his name is everywhere, even before the word in that let it in. In the COVID situation, I just believe unless you're a doctor, I think it should stay away from COVID issues. I mean, the tape is the tape. But the tape is the tape. Why isn't it the tape used against this person When you have

the tape. Hearsay different story, but there's tape, But you have tape, you see it, So is there any it can't be good for you one person, not good for the other person, right, do you think, like, because my thing is is like, do you think you know? I think that Me and James talked about this just in general and of use to the N word is out if you're not a black person. Yeah, absolutely, it's a

cold right black people, we could use it. There's certain like comedians, you could use it around your friends, but not too well Like there's like certain guys like Louis c k who's used it, especially right in front of Chris Rock that one time on the HBO thing. Is there any sort of like rule with the comedian shiit? Like? Does comedy leave it wide open if there's a certain context involved, you think because I say nig all the time,

I mean, but you you can say that. Yeah, I say nig all the time, but believe it or not. When I get off stage, I don't use forfanity at all at all, at all. I don't curse at all when I'm off stage. I slowed down a little bit. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't do I don't do no profanity whatsoever. So the N word is based on your audience. The N word is based around who you're around. The in word is based on you feeling comfortable saying it.

And like I said, and everything is about choices in common sense of Truthly, some black people don't even sound right saying it because in the area you just hear a nigga even who said that, and it's a black dude. Yeah, so that's definitely true. So we live in a strange time. You know, the world changed. That's why Bill Cosy got caught up, right, the world changed. It was like he committed the crime today, the world changed. Still happened to be still alive and got caught up in the BS, right,

so it comes. You know, they said you're going to hire for so long were caught up with him. Do you think someone like Joe Rgan should be canceled quote unquote canceled? He should be canceled, But because he didn't get canceled, you look like a fool saying he should get canceled. When he stood the storm, right, what's my man? The Rock? Yeah, that was against him because everybody thought everyone came after the Rock, and then the Rock retracted

his stands. So he did retract. He attracted well because originally he had posted in support of him. Right, But then I'm saying he did he retracted after the last one. No, he retracted. I think his support for Joey right right right. The tweet out pretty much saying just like, hey, now I know the full narrative right right right, And it still doesn't take away from because there's a tape there.

Yes see, I see they could say that. See if there wasn't a tape again, this conversation would be different. Then you could say, oh, he's not Racis, but you saw the tape. So even though, even even though we have a tendency to overreact, society overreacts online, especially nowadays, especially nowadays, we overreact and Joe is a nice of course, sure he's not known, but I'm cousse sure it's an overreaction. I didn't see the tape. Everything I'm hearing talk about

right now is just really hearsay. But I do know there was a tape, and I just want the tape to be consistent with everybody. Right. If if I saw you doing something on the tape, that's the tape, like, it can't be good for you, but then somebody else happens it's not good for you. I think that's wrong that's fair. That's just a general rule for it, just a general rule. It has to be fair for everybody. But we know, even in my act, I teach people

not to be children. Know you ever walk in the room and someone gives you a bigger can and say, oh, well, that's the black community, because when whites do something, they say, oh, he didn't get the same case, et cetera. Right, But I tell people the time that if you read the law library and if you're in jail, if a black man and white man is arrested, it states in the book that a white man can't get the same charge as a black man. I mean that's something we've obviously

just seen. Right, Yeah, is deep, but well I try to teach people that's the way to the world. Right. And like even when they talk about racism, say, I believe racism will always exist. I think people can't get along, right, but we can respect each other. See there's a difference. I mean, we may like each other, but still going to be If people start saying it's in racism, we're never going to end that. That's impossible because it's very unrealistic.

It's unrealistic. But we can respect each other I can respect you, you can do that. See, so they need to change it to we're going to respect each other, then say let's end racism. I think it changes the whole game. Yeah, I think ending racism is a great thought, right right, sounds like when there's so many variables, so many where you where you might be raised, you were raised around no matter what, everyone has a certain amount of prejudice that is even subconscious. Yes, right, they're just

sitting there. But that doesn't mean that like your hate. Like I think everyone has a certain amount of a subconscious stereotype about people, yes, or prejudice about people. Like you said, it's a matter of respect. It's a matter of like are you a hateful person? Are you? And see you can still be hateful. That's how powerful respect is. Respect is so powerful that I can still I can hate the fuck out you, but I respect you so much you know. See. I mean that happens a lot

in prison. Listen between between the races, like you got you gotta respect. Like if we was talking in jail and somebody came up and interrupt us without saying excuse me or waiting their turn, you have a problem. I apply those same rules to lifary. It's not like I've gone to prison for a long time. The rule is,

I'm so into respect. But when you're in this world today and me being much older i have because of wisdom, I kind of have to change my thought a little, because I'll always be in an argument, like I don't believe you should be up close to me when we're in line. Of course, I believe you should have that space. And that's prior to COVID. By the way, prior to COVID.

Give me some give me three So what I used to do when I see somebody too close, I will always take my backpack and throw it on my shoulder, hit him by accident. I'm sorry, Yeah, get the obviously for real, Like I'm for real with that ship right, Give me three feet? Yeah, like why are you up on me? Oh? I'll tell a person a female, she's too close, or get me a pay a bill. So you're getting close. We we're gonna be in a relationship.

Step the fuck back. There's nothing wrong with so my way of thinking is so manly and respectful and so traditional, but the world is not like that. I'm angry every day and I have to keep it to myself. I'm angry every day. Now, let that ship out. Man. No, no, no no, no, no, no, you can't do that. She's gonna end up on you can't. You can't. They're gonna try to cancel him. You gotta learn get the best. What I'm learning is bite my tongue a little bit.

Everybody feels like everybody wants to be this quote quote leader, right, and you can't save the world. You cannot save the world the world, that's fact. You got to save your peace, though, Yeah, you gotta save your peace. You can take you can teach your close children around you, but you can't save the world. You talked about, just you're more of a traditional guy, right, And it feels like in twenty twenty two there's been kind of like a campaign against being

a traditional guy. Oh yes, sir, right, Oh my god. See, because in actualality, I should be off the market, right see, I should be kind of retired, I should be married. But because of the way I think I sound old fashioned to the world. If I talk it to a young ladyb I give her my opinion on life, they

look at me like a motherfucker crazy, you know. Or I had a comment the other day where I told on the air that men should twenty five thousand in their account before they start fucking, before they start dating. Well uneducated, And I'm gonna say exactly the uneducated people was hitting me in my DM tell about you ugly, motherfucker you just because you ugly, A young nigga who ain't got no money could be fucking all day. These are the stories I'm getting. Watch what I'm going They

missed the whole point. They missed the whole motherfucking point. Nig I'm a player. I'll never give a bitch twenty five a thousand dollars. What I'm telling people is have your shit together before you approach your woman. Because to the people who's gonna listen to this, let me give you some gang, some good gang. See when your money right, your choices of hos is different. See when you're broken

and you fuck with Taco bell type bitches. See when you ain't got your money right, you fuck with motherfucker hot old Wiener sistle type bitches. But when your money is right, your choices is different. You move different, your options and your option everything is fucking different. So to all the people who was listening and commenting on the set that I sat on the Births Club. I wasn't offended by it. It showed me how uneducated the world is. I'll never tell any man to give a money to

a female. What I'm saying is stop fucking broke and nothing in bitches and babies. You can't afford babies, come out here shooting and killing everybody that you can't take care of the child. You see you over you totally overlook what the fuck I was saying. Excuse me for I really want them to understand what I'm saying. Like you're dumb. I'm gonna say you're dumb. Motherfuckers who raised you, Like I'm for real with that ship, Like it's you nothing in the bitch and your money ain't right? Girl,

come back pregnant. Now you're gonna blame her that she got pregnant. Money ain't right. You can't take care of a kid, can't put a kid in daycare, can't even pay for the abortion, can't even pay for the abortion. But because you think you're handsome, you can nothing the bitch, because you ain't got twenty five I've had, motherfuckers, I got five thousand dollars and I fuck just like you

rich guys missing the point. That's a more ego egotistical way of looking at it, a child like that's like a nineteen year old's perspective, Like when I'm out here fucking bitches exactly the point exactly. But when I was giving them game, that's real games and real ship with money. Right, Because you won't be a nine percent of time, you won't be a liar. Also, twenty five thousand not gonna say this said you won't be a liar. Watch what

I'm saying. Most men lie because they ain't got no money, say lie the bits to pretend to be something that they not. But your money, right, you still could be fucked up in hat exactly. But guess what I rather for men have money than to be egotistical with money. I read a man be egotistic with money than not to have money, is what I mean. Because when you don't have money, you got low self esteem. You're a liar. I'd rather for a man to be a little cocky

because I hate weak men. I hate wine. There's a lot of men wine to get pussy because they could play. Know the time, So a bitch give you supposed to because she feels sorry for you, not because you gave her now as long because you put up on game. Some guys get pussy because they gave a bitch of bag bought a diamond bracelet. Right, but did you take

time to see the bitch character? See every find girl you see, you gotta ask yourself soon as you see her, let me paused for a second, check out her character and see what kind of substance she has as a woman, what kind of vocabulary of this year? Is she soft when I talk to her? Or do I feel like I'm talking to a man? They just got a fat ass and she's cute, you know, because a real man want a woman who's soft. You're on the phone talking

to her late at night. Does she make you feel good because of the tone of voice, or she's her vocabulary? Or look what she talking about using using vocalo like niggas talk, you feel like you're talking to your homie, right, you know what I'm saying, She's gonna sound nothing like the lady. There's definitely a group of women that are so beautiful until they open their mouth and you're like shit, yes, it's so you understand what I'm saying, so make sure.

I want to make sure this segment is to the world because it's so important for them to understand what I mean and for how it's important to have a soft woman that you could talk to. It changed everything. Hey, we know we gotta stop the podcast real quick. Shout out to my bookie. Man. Listen, if you know anything about me, you know I like to gamble on sports and I've been using my bookie for so long. Go to my Bookie dot ag. Check it out. They're doing

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but Voca, she thought she was a dude. We was at the bar right after party and she was cursing. I said, yo, baby, no mind, you curse a little too much. This is what she said. Oh you don't know who I am. People, You just talking like a nigga, like her turf. It got so bad, like I had to lead because somehow there was a misunderstanding that it was like we was about to go to war. Wow, I had to leave. The other night, I did a show at the Stress Factory in Jersey and it was

just a misunderstanding. Came in. The ladies were acting crazy and I couldn't see because the lightnse of mine. I said, okay, holes, okay, hose, you know, being funny, but they took it too serious. But there was a female who was the alpha male. She controlled the energy of the other females. So when she felt disrespected. They all ever else felt disrespected. Even after the show, we were talking. That conversation was getting a little heated because she this is someone in the crowd,

or she was acting like a dude. She had men qualities. So I said, you a gang member. I had accident. She got offended, but bitch, I meant what I said, because you acting like a man. So when I when she left, all the ladies in us was cool. I said, hey, come back tomorrow because I think this went off the wrong way. To make sure you'll get ticked tomorrow. I'm gonna take it. But they didn't come. And being on this earth long enough, I know is because the female

who thought she was a man still felt offended. Maybe she identified as a man. Listen to me. You know, I've been around so long that I know this young lady felt like she was a due or she got men quality. She gonna hung around men so long that she done picked up their ways. And that's another they had. We talk about men dressing like women or acting like women, but we got women who are still women who pick up the behavior of men. They mindset, the way they move.

It's like a man. There's nothing feminine about it except the makeup, the eyelashers. But they move like a dude, they think like a dude, and then they wonder why they get cheated on. They wonder why they can't keep a relationship because, don't get me wrong, a man a nutting you all day. We got a fat ass. You cute, But baby, are you soft? I don't feel the softness, you know, even the rolling up a blunt you know now people do this today. I just think the women

who roll backward better than me is a lot. I run into them often, yes, yes, yes to me, And because I'm older, I think is wrong. I mean, that's the way you young, you young men move today. I don't know. I'm just against it me right. I think that it's a generational thing too, because I think a lot of women in like that are being raised in this generation by younger people, are are raised in a very uh hustler mind state. Everything's kind of like a come up if we think I'm not gonna do it

rolling weed. No, I just mean in terms of, like, you know, at least even when I do, when I when I DJ gigs or like just some of the people who I'm around, like I'm like a lot of women are, like you said, they have that mentality that when we were growing up we had. But their mentality is like how can I hit a lick on this dude, or how can I you know, only fans just pop in like women are like very much. You mean, hustle soars, getting money, getting money off. Still we talk about two

different things. Yeah, hustling personality is two different things. Fair enough, Hustling is hustling. You know, I'm not against a woman hustling because you still can be a lady and hustle. You ain't gotta act like a dude to hustle. You ain't gotta have your pants sag, you ain't gotta talk

reckless to still hustle. Just gotta know all the hustle. Right, if a woman saging her pants, she might just be a lesbian, right, But I'm just using I'm just using an example, like you still can have a dress on and be a hustler for sure, Right, he still could be. I'm just talking about the softness of a woman. Now, this is gonna go with a lot of people say its sometimes he's sexist and all this, and I might

be it's because I'm in my sixties. The way you look great, black, I just take care of my six years old man. Yeah, oh yeah, you know you're fucking great, so forty years old. Yeah, So that's my thing too. People think I look young, but I'm I'm in my sixties. Perspective is a little different. It's a little different. So what I'm saying is I respect. I'm smart enough to know that my way of thinking is probably old, and it is what it is, right, and I'm going to

deal with that. And I know I can't change the world. So I'm man enough to laid back and almost throw my cape on because I have my time right, I had. I lived my life, and all I can do is put the gems out there for some people to graphs on. Because you still can take what I've talked about and

apply it to your life. You still can take a young lady and still make a soft and still know she could still hustle, still know that she could still do great things as a woman instead of being with a man and act like you don't want a man to feel like he's with another man. Well, this is also your perspective. So for people who get their panties in a bunch. It's like, yo, you're speaking your truth. Yes,

but we know how that is. Like, it's crazy how people don't respect another person's opinion, right, But that first thing you said was like you respect them, like you sit back. You know, you're sixty and you you think the way you think, you understand people think, right, So that's a good way to think, because some people get upset when they see this, Oh my god, five just going crazy, or what a bunch of dudes is doing

playing Pokemon. Like it's just like why that Just have that perspective of I understand that you think definitely in this y yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to be smart enough to understand, so I understand. You know. I just want to share it to the world. Just my my take and perspective on these things. That's all that's fair. And I think there is something to be said about

why certain ways. I know a lot of women that are single in their thirties because they conducted themselves a certain way throughout all of their twenties, yes, and now they're just kind of bitter, right, right. I think that's why people kind of love Kevin Samuel so much, right, because he kind of holds everyone over the fire right and even on the other end of the spectrum. So we're not being sexist here. Like you said about the

men having twenty five grand before they start fucking. Imagine, you're twenty years old and you got no money to your name, and all of your effort and anything you apply yourself to is just getting pussy. You're gonna be broke for the rest of your life. Oh here's the thing that's good, and what you're saying is right. So here's the answer to that. Just like when you're young ambits to buy a car, your ambitsus to buy a house. I want men to be ambittionous to save money, not

to get to the female. Say let me stack my money. So i'm right before I go to the female, because when your confidence got a little bit changed, Like I said, your choices of women is different and based on generation, right, based on parents. Parents should teach their kids, hey, start stacking your money, start doing this, Start doing this when they're really a young person, because most parents work to their child's eighteen. Say hey, you're on your own, gotta

get a job. Figured it out, and you figure it out at eighteen. When you mind you had eighteen years to really prepare for me to have something. When I walk out this door, you left your mind. You got me at zero. So from eighteen now I gotta catch up with life. But we had eighteen years. Like, could you imagine somebody to put one hundred twenty a month

and something for eighteen years? Or your child like when they get eighteen, you have something to put in their hand, But most of us are at zero at eighteen or even just like kids who you know a lot of kids who are fifteen sixteen, Any extra money that they get goes to like gaming or like right, some shit, it's like yo, just right. So when people hear me, it's so unrealistic. But if you get that mindset right,

start getting it right, you can get your mondy. And it's really not for anybody over fourteen, right, It's this mindset is for people really young, because those are the people who are really listening to me. These are people in my DM to my thank you like an uncle, you, like a dad that I never had to give a game. I'm gonna pursue this because we don't want young men to keep having babies, right, Yeah, I think too, Like it's very important to understand that, like, if you're going

to be successful at anything, energy is very important. Time is your biggest carearency that you have, biggest currency you have. So if you are going to try to be successful in this life and you come out the gate eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one years old, and like one of your top three priorities is getting laid every weekend, exactly, you're running with one leg in this race. And then some men shoot themselves in the foot because they have a

baby two or three and they have five. And that's where it's like, Okay, what you look, what do you realistically expect to happen with your life now? Thank right? You said you dug your own grade, because most people aren't extremely blessed with like an insane talent that transcends right, and even if you are, the chances of that actually you cutting through so much. Luck is involved, so much, so much and so much hard work that you might not even have time to put in now because you've

got to worry about feeding three kids. That's so true. What about marriage at a young age? Think it's the worst thing in the world, but some people could pull off. He pulled it off. I mean, I'm thirty five, so you're still young. Yeah, you're still a youngster. But it's good for some people because sometimes marrying somebody can motivate you because right now you are not married. You're single. Yes, you've been married in the past, never be never been married,

never posed, nothing like that. No, No, that's corny as hell. That means, how many children do you have? I have seven? How many baby mamas? Seven? Oh so your yeah? Three three, three, one night stands, seven children, And I've made love to some of the most beautiful women in the world, but I netted in the most unsuccessful bitches the world has ever seen. Mm hmm, yeah, ain't nothing, ain't none, ain't none of my baby mom is rich. So I wish one of them could have been my fucking rich. That's

just a joke. I was gonna laughing. That's some funny shit. But no, shout out to my kids' moums. But you know, my that life is for me. Like my oldest son and he's like Dad, I don't want to be like you. You You know, want to have a family. And I said, okay, son, well have your own family and have your own motherfucking kids, and you could have everybody under one room. The reason why I say this on the air is that I want people to understand. To avoid depression, you have to

play the hand that you dealt See. If you play your hand and know who you are, you're gonna be happy. But when you start looking at somebody else's motherfucking hand, or start thinking whoa, whoa, what if? Exactly? Then those were the problems come the issues. If you accept the hand that's given to you and you just deal with

it and look forward, and your happiness will be. But like you said, when you start pocket watching other people exactly, people who you perceive to be your peers, maybe in the same field, or you start dwelling too much on what could have happened, what should have happened, then you're gonna fucking you're done right, And it all goes back to germ nature. Like you said earlier, we all get jealous, we all get angry. So I tell people to control

your emotion. It's one of the most If you can train yourself over the years to control your emotions, you won. That's real. You one. You have one, I swear to God, because once you in control, you still get the anger. Like yeah, control. You control. That's why I would tell people to rest as much as you can the night before, because when you're not well rested, you get angry, easier, you snap at somebody, you hurt somebody because you didn't

have proper sleep the night before. So when people say, hey, old people go to bed early, you know, I go to bed early, but I wake up. I can go to bed ten o'clock and still wake up before you, and it feel like I sleep all day. You know that's because me, I've worked so hard and my whole life and got successful that I just enjoy life, like I like getting up early and getting to start the hold up day because I enjoy it. Well, there's a

different energy. I feel like when you really finally grow up, you stop sleeping until like eleven am right, you start waking up before eight. You realize like this is like this like your your life. Your day just becomes so much more productive because look at what you've made of yourself. You look forward doing this. This makes you feel successful. Your wife knows where you're going. You feel good about it.

Even when you talk to someone about what you have, you may not realize it, but I'm telling you what it sounds like accomplishments. You accomplish on that motivated, you own something, you're doing something. And I always tell guys, as you get old and you sit down with a woman, when you start saying what you've done and what you're about to do and not be lying, it makes a woman pussy what It makes it interested in you because you have accomplishments. And that's what a man should also

look at the female. Okay, but I see the fat ass bad where's your head at? What have you accomplished your thirty something? But what have you? Are you a real estate agent? Did you graduate from college to your own eyelash shop? Do you do? What do your own? What are your aspiration? What's your aspirations? It's deep, but that's what people should look at. It's a lot of motherfucker's man right now telling you is there a bare minimum? Because you said, God, should we have twenty five K?

And it's not really twenty five for a female? No, it's really not twenty five K. Is more like, just have something. It's just a metaphor. I just take that number out. I'm saying for for females now it should be the same. But have something, right, you know, like a woman should have money not to give to a man, right, a woman should have money too that she's with a guy. Really, the way I came up with this, if two people had money when they meet and it didn't work out,

guess what the transition is. God's smooking me a place you could get smooth. If one person we broke, one's gonna try to hold on to the other person, don't want to really leave, or you're so fucked up you're gonna stay. You gotta stay in the house because you guys are both on the lease. Right, You're gonna stay in the situation that because financially you don't have another option. I don't want to go back to my mother's, right, I don't want to go to my brothers. I can't

go with my sister. I burnt that bridge. So I know it's hard to understand what I'm saying. But before you even put yourself in that situation, try to get the money. But you know what most ninety percent of people do. They fuck, get the girl pregnant, and then they behind the eight ball. That that's so crazy because you everything you said is real shit. But people take a little clip and just make it this whole thing that you're not saying, Like what you said about twenty five,

that's some real ass ship. How did a mail bounds to me? I mean, how do you feel about clips? Like you had an hour interview and everybody judges is off the thirty second clip. How does Yeah? I don't care, you know, because we got platforms like this context Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, somebody's gonna hear the information right and and and and take it in. Yeah, somebody's gonna hear it. And if people already got their opinion of you there, they're gonna yeah. And like I said, the twenty five

thousand is just my number, doesn't mean realist. You have to have twenty five have something. When you say hello to that young lady, you got something right that you guys got a couple of thousand. You're gonna get a hotel room, you're gonna have a little breakfast, but you're gonna nut in her. Let's keep it real. A guy's gonna nut how she's pregnant. Then what then what some of you're gonna lie and say give it a wrong name. Some of you're gonna curse out with her, bitch, My

key and girls go take it deeper. You let a man get on top of you and nothing. You have a baby. But you know what, no one never talks about how you can die giving birth. That's real and combinations. And if you don't love a man enough to get on that table see to have a baby, you should truly love a nigga that's real because you could die, you know what I mean? People get on the fucking I got pregnant, You're gonna have a baby, and you don't even know nothing about the man, but you're gonna

give it there and risk your life. So you think, don't fuck unless you're ready to die for that. You got to love them all that. There's gonna be people who's gonna who are gonna be like, well, this guy's got seven kids from seven bait on my rich So it's different, could handled all that comes with it? Yeah, there's a difference. And all my kids came at the twenty seven, right, I didn't have kids in my eighteen

nineteen twenty. I had them at the twenty seven. Why do you think you never got married or settled down. I've always felt that women mentally was petty. I mean, okay, this is you got something to say? I agree. I mean, listen, based on my experience with women in this world, every woman is petty, petty. I can't take it. I can't take the mood swings. I can't take an argument that you don't know what you're arguing about. Oh my god, what what? Welcome to a relationship for thirteen years? I'm

proposed to. I've been through that. Just one of those the other day where I'm just like, what the fuck is going on? Or you're buying flowers for something that never happened. Yes, you're buying flowers for someone an argument you have no fucking idea what happens? You're just like here right, And I'm yeah, I'm the kind of guy I don't mind a good argument if there's if there's something to argue about, Yeah, you break off into a

Google's map that's over here. What happens a lot is I feel like women people, Uh, there'll be so much suppressed anger about a bunch of little ship that eventually there's just a fight about. Like, like you said, what are we fighting about? It gotta makes sense? Yeah, like if did I do this? If I did this, and you can deal with it, but let's talk because you know what, I know I did that wrong. Now we're

having a deal conversation, but to argue. So you just never could get over that aspect of I've always felt women and then by me being successful, women always sabotaged the relationship because they didn't believe and they don't trust you, whether they didn't trust me or they didn't believe they was I was actually dating them. Oh okay, So it was that insecurity when you're successful, when you're on the road, when you're TK Kirkling. Yeah, I mean all that always.

Plus I'm always going, so it wouldn't be fair to a woman, right because I'm always going. Like the pandemic was really a great thing for me because aft of thirty seven years, I was able to stay home for the first time. Like, I've never been in one place. You've always been on the road, man, Yeah, always been

on the road killing it. Like the thing that I tell people that even though you got people who went on to do good movies and get famous and they had the highs, right, right, But I've been consistent thirty seven years. Well, yeah, we see a lot of people. I'll drive by the Marquee at flappers here in Burbank or THEMN prov and I'll see somebody, but I remember that person from that movie in ninety nine. Yeah, I've

been consistent. I won't go for an audition unless it's handed to me because because I've been I'm a hustler, so I don't believe in wasting my time. So I never I never went to the auditions to do movies because back in the day, I was you know, I was, I was in I was in the streets right and like when all my communion friends was coming up, I was richer than them and based on love the dal Hughgles,

you know, I'm the one that had the money. So but the way society changed, Yeah, sometimes I want to go on social media for the fucking bag of money that motherfuckers know, like yol ain't doing motherfuckers getting it. But my discipline, right, that's important. It's important to not give into your ego. Thank you, my, my, my, my discipline. That should happened to me all the time where I'm like, man,

I want to just fucking tell some motherfuckers. I just want to just do like I'm like every now, that show, every now and that my show you might, I won't show it. Show it. You might see me spinning and you caught a glimpse of it. I might do that, but I don't do this to put you, to get you locked up or get you robbed. How often do you work on new material? Every day? Every fucking two

or three minutes? So when you're touring, because like obviously we'll see h comedians will go to the comedy store and work on their new ship that they're eventually going to hit the road with. Right for you is your is your live show always evolving every day and that's just your me most convenience. But that's once people see me perform, you truly see who's really the best comic that ever hit the mic? Like once you see me?

Because a lot of people don't have it in them to do new material, Like no, they do the same material time for six months. Mom, the rack changes like right now it's who raised you? But I don't even do who raised you really that much no more? You know, my new thing is about called you young witches don't know nothing about you know such and such? Right, and then I used to have things go don't play me play lotto. You got better chances, get your ass in

the car, put your head out the window. Because I used to write titles for comedy, Like how somebody write a song? Right? Have you ever written for other comedians? No? No, no, no no, no, no. Everything is for me because everything to me comes from my heart. Because there are some comedians who use writers. People don't. Yeah, yeah, some do. And a lot of comedians have bid off my stuff and flipped it. But back in the day, I'm not the comedian to call someone say, yo, you stole my shit.

Happens a lot that I think that's petty too, like no disrespect. I don't really fuck with comedians. I'm much older than them, and I'm a street nigga, so my way of thinking is different. Like I don't really hang with community. I don't go over your house. You know, we ain't gonna hang out. I see you would have a drink for a minute, But I go on about my business because I'm twenty maybe twenty and fifteen, twenty years older than you and coming up hustling, coming up

getting my education as a college, being an athlete. I just saw the world differently. So I always tell people that I'm a businessman. In comedy, is my side hustle. Hey, we got to stuff the podcast man, real quick. Appreciate y'all for watching. Really mean it. Subscribe, like leave a comment, even if you're one of those dickheads who leaves a commun You were always interrupting the guests because it's my fucking podcast, and I don't know i'd like to talk

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percent off odd Sosofficial dot com. Go showus some love, and let's get back to the interview, right, because because I've seen IG comedians that literally is one dude literally you're you're a bit about some girls about the graduate from high school right right, literally said that whole joke verbata. But I called them out. It happens all tweet all

the comedians watching. You ever see somebody biting somebod else's ship them, call them out because I make videos on IG and every now and I say, like my boy TK would say, who raised? Yeah, No, I feel I do feel like there's because there's such a generation or like demographic separation between people who watch stand up and people who are on I G or TikTok comedians that

there are people who like Patrise O'Neill. There was some dude on YouTube stole his whole ship for like a year and a half, and because it's a different world, you know, finally people started to really kind of hold this. It's crazy how you can do that and feel like you account for something. It's a short nut to see in my style. It's like Mike Gepps was saying one day, he said, you gotta be you can't really steal t. K kirklan because my ship's not be psyched with jokes.

My ships, like I actually have lived it, you know, like my ship is for real. And if you do it, you got to have a certain swag of a sound about you, you know, like right now talking about how only date marry women and women who are a relationship because I know you hos ain't happy. Then the kind of bitches I fuck, but our niggas can't say that, you know, and you know, and then I talk about how and I said, and one of my vinches have been fucking for years died during COVID and we get

out of here. And I said, she died during COVID, And I said, we have to you know, couldn't go to the funeral. So you had to have this ship on zoom, you know, And I said, and I said, the different men and a lot of you young motherfuckers, I think you play. See I'm the type of nigga if I'm fucking your wife or your girl, nigga, I can't fuck your girl and take out of the country, go to turks of kekos, roam nigga and come back and you don't have any gifts. I said, that's disrespectful.

I wasn't raised like that. I said, I'm fucking your girl. You're gonna get something when I come back. So the funeral that we had on Zoom, the young lady died and they had all our names up on the on the on the on the computer. So I was a sudden her husband want to be sensitive on this day.

His bitch died right, So at the funeral, you know, because the mic is live, he gonna I see him get up, and he gonna walk over to the fend of director and he said, hey, t K. Kirkleys on Zoom, he's been having a field with my wife over fifteen years. Is there any way we could block him? And the funeral director is like, look, I don't block nobody. I don't even bomb people. So when he came back, it's good to see he took his jacket off and threw

it over the camera. Now people may not understand, but I put that nigga that jacket in two thousand and five. Can you imagine. Can you imagine how I felt knowing that's the jacket that you bumped through. I brought you, motherfucker. You have the nerve throat on the camera, disrespectful. This really happened. No, I just made it up. That's the thing. Like, there's some comedians that will say shit just out of shock. I believe that the color is have the ability to

lure you in. See I'm a great storyteller. That's some real shit. That's hilarious. I had you your undivided attention the camera. Man. I was like, yeah, and if people gonna watch it, they're gonna be like, whoa. Then that would kill on stage. Oh yeah, I do it already. Oh that's amazing. Yeah you Uh. We were talking off the camera a bit about just some of the because you know, you're obviously a creative guy. You're a great writer. Uh.

We're talking about how you're in the Ozark. Yes, yes, yes, yes, now you think that's the great We're talking about fifty cents whole entire power, fifty influencing other drug dealers of the next generation because what people see they start reacting, right, So fifty took something and flipped it and he made hold stars. It should be fifty stars in the reup. That's what it should be cold right, and all shows

a good and shout out to fifty. I introduced fifty on the Rough Riders tor back in the day before when he got shot. Oh wow, yeah that was like early fifty before. Yeah, Columbia Records, Columbia Records. So me and him was good. And to see what he's done

is just awesome. So shout out to fifty. With the TV show Ozark, I get deep into TV and film, so I look at everything, the scenery in the background, the dialogue, the casting director who casts that show or shows right, because that person so you can get two or three good actors. But Ozark, everybody down to the bar, everybody down to who putting gas in the car, everybody who's walking by was strategically planned. So whoever did that was just did a phenomenal job because there's no weakness.

The only thing that bothered me is with old Zak was that Marty is always getting out of one situation. And I build my life as find a solution so I can have peace of mind. He's never got piece of mind. He's never had a peace of mind. So that's irritating to me because I'm I teach my children that, right, what's the solution? So we went as a solution. So at least I don't give two days, three days or a month. I want some peace of mind somewhere in

there is like motherfucking heart attack. Yeah yeah, it's crazy, crazy, that's to you? Is that that? That's your your goat TV show though? Number one? Yeah, Well I'm mad that I got it, got it off on the first day. I watched the whole season four and one day, just got it out the way, just got it out the way. And I was wonder while I was up to like seven eight in the morning. But man, it was worth it. That's how interesting it had. It had me on the edge of my seat. And I want to thank you,

my man, for having me on your show. I want to thank you for great questions. A lot of people don't know what to ask me or to talk to me about, and I feel like you talk to me like a man, to talk about man things that people around the world can use and apply to their life. Because even if we get ninety percent of people don't understand that ten percent is worth well, you know, I

think anything. These days, people are very uninterested in the actual point as much as they're interested in being mad exactly. I totally agree with you. Everyone wants to be emotional, yes, And the wild thing about that is you could be talking to somebody and they agree with you ninety five percent of the way. If you don't have five line attact that fire. I mean, that's kind of a man that, you know. They want to be hate, they want to the goal is in. We're in a very interesting place

in life. You guys, age group man, brother, Thank god you're married, though you at your age that that age group you're in is in it's in danger. I can see it. I just think in general, if we think about like this, the period of time we're in, I think, what's weird about kind of you know, obviously four years of Trump, the America was very much here and here. But with some of the COVID stuff that's been happening over here and over here is starting to kind of

overlap on this. It's just all insane. Like I mean, I was thinking about this other day, like years ago. You never think of anybody fighting in the airplane. True, it's going to a whole nother level. It's just anger. People getting out the car and shooting each other because of one slight little mistake because you cut a person off by accident, because it just happened. Wasn't like I was trying to be rude. Should happen? People beating each other up for no reason, smashing grab people coming in

and breaking to get jewelry? What that you can't sell? That you just going to prison for young kids, young rappers who are dying at alarm and rate more so than ever before. Oh, it's yeah, the hip hop thing is crazy, right, It's insane people, young adults, nipsy and all these people dying because they got hated. Like, millions of people love you, but let me take one hated to get you, and most most of those people are from where you're from. Yes, there's no hate that you're

ever going to get. If you're successful, then from where you're from, because those people are like, why wouldn't it be right? Right? Right? It's like doctor Joy used to say. We used to be in the studio down in Torrence, and he used to always say, you can't touch what you can't see. So what's the solution. You moved out the way and you still can help people, but dream got to actually be there. Don't be don't be too accessible,

don't be too accessible. And and the proven point Martin Luther, King, Malcolm Max, everybody who was those type of people. Or if the government can gets you, your own people will get you. So you got to stay moving real quick. Give us a story of just being on the road for that rough Riders tour. Obviously that's the rough right of tour, I tell you, because what year was that? That was? What the great thing about the rough Righter Tour even to this day is the respect that everybody

gives me. Remember one day in Miami walking down matter of fact, airs with me. We was in Miami and how baby and them and his brother was just driving down the street. They pulled over. So is this the rough Riders cash money tour? Rough Riders cash money to at that time, rough Riders was the biggest ship and it was cash money. I mean they were both. The DMX was the yeah right, and it was it was

just great. So from DMX to the rough Rider. Like so in comedy when comedians say they such and such the world to tell you that T. K. Kirkland is truly the man you may not see him in the movie, but I did some things that no other comics truly have done. I told with some of the you hosted that tour. So I hosted that toy, the Hard Knock Life tour with jay Z. You hosted the Hard Knock Life I was that was that was I was twelve years old. Yeah, I that met the Man and Red

Man flying around here. Yep, sure was wow, the straight out of the Compton Tour. I've done it all. Also shout out to another guy who uh, Alex Thomas. When I was a kid, he hosted the Alex don't know. He almost got fired on that tour. Spoke to because doctor Day and we was in Detroit. They was gonna fire him. Bring it and because they was my crew, and they went in the back. And what we decided was I said no, this first time ever mentioned it. I said no, Alex, my man let him hold that.

And then two weeks later I had got the cash Money tour. Yeah, so that means I would have had all those tours. What was like backstage like in ninety nine ninety eight with the rough Riders and the thing, there was much respect. But what the problem was is when we put made men on the concert on the tour that you know, right, YEA have been seeing them.

So when we got to Boston, apparently the night before, DMX had a situation with a female and I didn't notice, you know, because when I hung out with everybody, I was my own guy. So when we come back to the stadium, I'm hearing the commotion, I'm still minding my business. All of a sudden, May Men and the Rough Riders getting into this brawl in bost backstage in Boston, which is their hometown. Yes, and Nives right here. Knives is going past me like stabbing, like nobody everybody respect TK

to the point that everybody's fighting around me. Nobody's fighting. No people getting stabbed, talking about stab but they was for real. But one thing I have to tell the world, you do not want to fuck with the Rough Riders. When I say mostly all those people from Maine men came out going to the hospital. They was the Rough Risers was prepared for that fight and they took down. But they DMX like directly involved in this. Yeah, I don't think DMX wasn't fighting. Yeah, but it went crazy.

I got mad because on the tour we was about to hit some of the biggest cities and the country that I was popular in, like Miami, And even though they knew me at the improv right, they didn't see I wanted them to see me under Cash Money Rough Rider Tour. It had been a whole and if you back in the day, it could be in all say the world, but the most beautiful women in the early late nineties was in Miami. I still think that might be the case. Still might be in Miami. Brother, it

was off the chain. So to experience all that was just amazing on that tour. And I tell people to this day to see DMX perform, like there's a lot of great rappers, but to see DMX perform on stage by himself, it's unbelievable what he was capable of doing, the way he captivated crowds where he captivated by himself by you know, you couldn't take your eyes off him. Yeah, I mean, listen, man, that was one of that contract, Like the Hard Knock Life Tour really kind of changed

my life. Yeah. See, I liked that because he was twelve years that's amazing when he did those prayers yep, yep, and quiet has kept I always say this, Like when DMX got off on stage on the Hard Knock Life tour, I mean maybe stuck around for two or three J records and then left right right. I was like, well, we came here to see DMX. Yeah, shout out to Jay Volume two was going crazy at the time, but like, yeah,

that's fair. I got a crazy jay Z story. And I tell people all the time that back in nineteen ninety five or thirty five years old, and I threw this big party in Harlem, and like I said, I'm well connected with the streets on young man named Eric bad Zip. I'm Haitian Jack. All these guys who rolled me. Shout out to Haitian Jack, always going to show him. Uh. My people hired the guys out of Brooklyn to do my birthday party. And we got the mink coats on,

we got our cars outside, we floss. Yeah. So these guys are late, and my boy said, Yo, they here to you. He was gonna let them pull out and no, fuck the niggas And I got the coat on, fucking up the champagne spelling late nigga fucking later. No, TK, you got to let these dudes on. Nick go ahead, fucking nigga put you know, talking shit about them being late. Nick got that motherfucker Mike and turned my birthday party out insane jay Z jay Z ninety, this is pretty

reasonable doubt. So this is like, so I pulled them to the side, and this is we ain't have credit cards and we had nots of money and bro Man so peeled the fifteen hundred dollars and gave it to him, said, good show. I tell people he took my I'm saying he took my that was my seed money, and he flipped it and flipped it and flipped it and became a billionaire. Great great, jay Z, thank you for everything he's done for me too. Shout out to home. Yeah him,

Damon dash Dame still still killing it. The studios, they always showed me, mad Love, always showed me mad Love. I always had to show tell those stories, even with Kelly, and I told Kelly a lot in the nineties as well, and God blessed his situation. But I will always show respect. He respect for what he did for me because he kept me working too, Like there's no other comedian that

worked more than me, nobody, especially touring with touring, musical artists. Yeah, I'm talking about from n w A all the way to Patty the Bell you hosted these tours, yes, all the way to the Whispers Wow, all the way to Frankie Beverly and May Wow. Yeah, I'm talking about that kind of stuff. What was the difference between like R Kelly hosting R Kelly Tour. It's a totally different dynamic and going out on the road with n w A.

You're going out on the road with d MS. That's why I tell comics you gotta have see I've had the ability to switch up styles. True, that's versatility is very important. And there's a differentt A comedian and the mc M. I've never heard commedian to this day. You ever say mc and what that means is master ceremonies. It's hard to do that. You gotta know how to

be the master something. What's the guy that came over at Depth, jam On gorg Elon with the black hair, he over at Warner Brothers, Now, oh fucking Lee or Cohen Cohen? He saw me at the rough ride of tour. No, I'll never get what he said. He said, t K. He said, No one knows how important your job is. So he said, you have the ability to control the room, because how if I want to set that room up, if I want to start a riot. I started writing, if I keep them keep them laughing. So one of

the things that was phenomenal. We was in New York City and I kept telling the audience from the verb begain, Hey, I got some special people. I've been this business a long time. Y'all in for a treat to night, Ladies down. We keep bringing on different acts. So I talked to the music guy off stage and listen, this is what we're gonna do. You follow me and we're gonna get these motherfuckers. He's like, so playing doing this thing right

before cash money comes on? Come, I said, Yo, I've been telling you for an hour that I've been this business. People fuck with me, they love me. And when I'm about to say this thing, didn't imagine these people's big talk about superstars this time, I said, Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for Doctor Dre Snoop Dogg and Eminem and they play Eminem's music. From the beginning. I had the TV people lights take everything down like they was really get ready to come on. They was losing

their mind. I walk off the stage. I'm talking about they losing their mind, and come back on the stage and say, psych had him in my palm. Now, if they didn't love me, they have turned that motherfucker out. But they loved me. And when they clapping and laughing because I got them, I said, even baby, because I see it was coming out, I said, put you to get a cat. Even after show, he said, I really

thought them niggas was here real quick. Last thing, when you were on the road with Kelly, did you how was he as a dude? Because we always hear never I'm I'm I'm independent. I never rolled it even though it was a cast money, never rolled it the outside of the stadium. Even when I was with n w A. Because I was I was much older than most. I moved like a man. You really weren't around R Kelly enough to really kind of get never paid attention, never

went hung out well, and never got women. Even with n w A. When you see the movies and I'm sucking in the dressing room, I mean this hotel, I was fucking in your own way. Yeah, I'm a player, I'm not fucking the monk. They was kids at that time, they wasn't moving the way I was moving. I was moving. I was already moving. So even when I come to the tours, like I remember jay Z Crew, was like because every city went to I always had a bad bitch breathing on me. They're like, niver fucking will we go?

You got a bad bitch everywhere I went, every city I had still the case. You still get the nice I don't fuck no more. I snugle with bitches. I respect it. Ye see I snuggled. Is that from a choice or just from a like you're just tired. I'm just tired, you know, Like I had other than the other night had a girl snuggling with me and she's like, t K, you've been working out like it's strong, and you know you're holding me tired dick on my spine

and I can't breathe. Like bitch, I heard you steal grass holds your type c k't curcules each other