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#14 - Dizzy Wright & Demrick

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In Episode 14 I sit down with the homies Dizzy Wright & Demrick to talk about everything from their new album "Blaze With Us 2", the Funk Volume breakup, DIzzy's lessons and difficulties touring with Strange Music, what Demrick has learned from working with Xzibit & B-Real, the weed strand and dispensary game, how they've both adapted to life during COVID and much more!

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Another edition of the Bootleg Cab podcast. Check in Man, listen. Shout out to everybody who is rocking with us, appreciate it. About to get into episode number fourteen. That's right, number fourteen. Dope episode today with the good homies Demrick and Dizneywright, who put out a fire ass joint project together. Disneywright's been a good friend of mine for a very long time. I'm currently voicing this in Phoenix, Arizona, sitting in the living room with dogs at our parents' house. Shout out

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putting out an incredible body of work Detroit two. There will be something special coming for anyone who's a fan of that album on the Boutleg cav podcast in the next week or so. So shout out to Big Sean, shot out to hit Boy Detroit two. Let's get in today's episode, Dizzy Riding Demrick. I've been knowing Disney Right since he was Dizzy d Flashy in Vegas before he

was on Funk Volume. I met Dizzy Right for the first time at a talent show at Chic Shoes at the Boulevard Mall in Las Vegas, and you know, me and him have had a great relationship over the years. I'm been a big supporter from his from the jump and I'm happy to talk to him and of course my guy Demrick, who's been doing his thing. That guy's like a utility knife man. He's he's always working, you know, doing serial killer projects on the road would be real.

Doing stuff with Dizzy, doing his solo stuff, doing this stuff with DJ Hoppins Stony Point. So we have a nice discussion with Disney riding Demrick Episode number fourteen of the Boutlet Cap Podcast. Let's get into it Buelet Cap Podcast. We got two special guests. This is the first time we've had multiple guests on the Bootleg Cap podcast. Two close friends of mine. They just got an incredible body of work that they dropped was it last month? Almost

two months ago? Now? Right? Men in June? Right? Yeah, blaze with us too, Denrick, Let's get that Mike a little closer to your mouth. Okay, cool, anyway, what's up guys, piece bro whatever, Bro, thank you for having us of course. Man, you guys are fam I was telling Demrik this the other day, like, this is a great body of work. Thank you, bro. Yeah. Thanks. Now you guys went through Smokers Club. Shout out to the homie Johnny shipes like that was kind of I know that that's kind of

like a new offshoot of like what cinematic does. What is like what was the motivation behind like working with Smokers Club for this project, besides the fact that both of you guys are degenerate stoner's Well, I've been a fan of Smokers Club for a long time. I always wanted to be a part of their festivals. But I had great tours and shit, yeh had a bunch of

things going on back in the day. And when I found out that they wanted to start releasing music, I thought it would be dope to just kind of mix what we got going on with what they got going on, because down on the East coast, right here on the West coast, so we thought it could be a dope, man.

And then you guys creatively, I mean when you when you broke away from Funk Volume, or when everyone broke away from Funk Volume rather and you started still moving Demrick was, I want to say, the first artist you announced, right, yeah, as a part of the crew. What is like your guys' relationship, your guys' friendship. You guys have made so much music together.

I think a lot of fans just automatically associate you guys together, like it's got to be super easy to just like knock Out a project, right, It's just like probably natural. Like I feel like we tore. We spent a lot of time like out on the road together, and we just kind of picked up the habit of just you know, getting off the tour bus on days off and renting studios so we can smoke and chill

and make music. And I feel like once we got into the studios and we started making music, we like, first off, this shit is fire and it's really easy to create facts that's fair. It's almost like I got the vibe of like Method Man, Red Men, Blackout, like the new era of that with this, you know what I'm saying, Like it just had that energy, you know

what I'm saying, That's the vibe he was going for. Yeah, you know, so if Funk Volume was still going, I was trying to get Demrick signed the Fun Volume, So that's kind of like one of the last things that I was trying to do before the label dismantled. So you know, just going over into still Moving was it was kind of already happened in that way, So the vibe was already there. We was already vibing off of each other, So being able to bring it back for

a second time. That's just purely being on the road, being inspired, looking at how the fans were responding to the first one. Man, it's been four years, maybe we could give them another one, you know, And that's kind of that's kind of the motivation I wanted to talk to you guys about, like each one of you guys have storied independent careers like Demrick. Obviously, I think the first time I met you, you were b Real's hype man.

This was like an O nine in Boise, Idaho. I think I think Busybone was supposed to be on the show, but he was super late. Yeah, and he ended up not showing up. Yeah, by the way, wild Busybone story to share with you about that night because I ended up having to pick up for the airport later and we did like a little offshoot like show across the street. It was. That guy's interesting to say the least. But

obviously you have a storied independent career. Dizzy, Like I remember being in Vegas and when you were Dizzy, d flashy, and you know you kind of had like the youth like turned up in Vegas and you know, then you transitioning from that to dizzy ride and doing smokeout conversations

and your funk volume run. How how are you guys able to like sustain what's going on with the COVID shit, not being able to go on the road, Like, what are some of the ways you guys are are are are are I guess innovating to kind of keep keep

bread coming in on the music shit? Because I feel like a lot of people who don't, who are artists who might not necessarily have be the smartest with their money, probably are like having a rough time right now because you know a lot of artists depend on that bag. You know what I'm saying to hit you know the back. If you've burned through the bag and and you was you was planning on other tours coming right up, you might be in a bad spot right now. Yeah, you

know what I'm saying. But I think for me, it's just about getting consistent. You know. It's as far as like always going you know, doing a project and going out on the road, doing two tours and then coming back and getting something else together and just kind of

like keeping the process going. You know. I realized that the battles really won in the studio, so it's about locking into the studio and seeing what I could create there now that I have more time on my hands, you know, to just take out take away the road shit, double up, double down. Like, obviously you got your story that's going, like you got a lot of other shit

going on. But like, I do feel like you've you've done a really good job of like navigating the indie game throughout your career and even like since the Funk volume shit kind of went away, because I know that was still independent per se, but like I feel like you've done a great job of like building like monetizing your brand independently since since that had kind of gone away, You know what I'm saying, Like, what are the things that you would kind of give pointers to artists who

are watching this like it even fuck the COVID shit put that to the side, just like being independent, Like, what are the things you think that that you might might might see other artists making mistakes with that you might have learned from, even mistakes that you might have

made that you learned from. Yeah, one hundred percent. Actually, me and Demmock had a conversation last night that kind of like relates to this question a little bit, And it's like having a balance of knowing when you're doing something for your soul and knowing when you're doing something for the bag. You know, and all the bags ain't worth going to get. All the bags ain't gonna be good for your soul, and some of the things that's good for your soul ain't gonna give you a really

good bag. So you got to have that balance on being able to figure out, you know, what keeps you going, what keeps you driving, like what keeps the wheels turning? Really and for me, it's always, you know, of course, creating music. I'm always playing the head, so I'm always That's the one thing that COVID shit kind of did to me. It kind of prevented me from being able to plan ahead, which I wasn't. I haven't been used to that ever since I got in the game and

I've been navigating. I'm always thinking three steps ahead, you know, so I'm never running into that time period and kind of looking around and figuring out like what I need to do, but more just like you know, having a plan in play, so when I get there, you know, I know exactly what I'm doing. So for me, it's just really about like creating the music side of things and utilizing this time to work with different artists and

be inspired by different artists. And you know, we're all on different levels, so it could be somebody bigger that can inspire you, somebody smaller that can inspire you, but you know, figuring out that hunger, finding that hunger and

running with it. I wanted to ask you, Dizzy, because you had like a there was a stretch right where you were on the Freshman cover and the funk volume shit seemed to be doing very well because the Warner situation had happened, and your album I think you were the only Were you the only person who ended up putting the album outrough Warner officially or did one of

Hobson's album come up? I think one came Yeah. And by the way, Warner dropped the ball on your album because I remember I couldn't find it the best buy they did. I was trying to go by like buy our best buy, and I was like, bro, what the fuck they did? Hitting b Yeah. The coldest part is that they told me that it was going to be a real rollout, like it was gonna be in I wouldn't even have told people they could get it at best Buy if you know, they didn't gass me up.

But you know, it's just trials and tribulations. I wanted to ask you, man, because like I feel like there was there's you know, you were I remember I think the I want to say, the last time I might have saw you live was with Logic in Orlando. Whatever tour that was, Whatever Logic tour that was. Was that for a second album? I think under pressures for his first album. Yeah, but I'm curious, Like, no, U incredible

it was the truth story, yeah, in incredible truth. But I'm curious, man, because like you've obviously done records with some of the biggest artists in the world, and like with the Funk Volume thing imploding and then you having to kind of figure this out for yourself moving forward. I'm sure you could have at that point in time probably gotten a deal if you wanted one, and did the major label thing, which would have been new to you kind of right, but you decided to kind of

just hunker down and stick to the independent shit. Like why why that as opposed to you know, trying to go get a deal with Atlantic or whoever the fuck? Yeah, because I like, I don't have that. Sometimes I feel like I don't have the same desires as some of these other artists, Like I don't really want it all too fast. Getting it all too fast kind of makes me nervous. I grew up with the bare minimum, so I feel like I know how to maneuver off of

what feels to me like a lot right now. Even in the independent game, I feel like the love of the traveling to being able to create the music, it's what I want to do, being able to work with different artists, and like having a range, a wide range of like sounds that I can tap in with different people. And I just feel like this is what I want it. You know, it don't It's not as glamorous from the outside looking then, But you know, I make good money,

I own my masters, you know. I'm intact with my soul, my spirit, you know, and I do what I want. You know. I can move in my own pace, Like if something is something don't feel right, I could pull the plug, you know. But I can also take chances, you know, I can, Like I like being in control of when I can when I want to, like maybe take a chance, go out on the edge. A little bit and just that kind of like slow paced grind.

So I've always been I guess like content bro with being independent and watching it grow slowly and just every year is something new, whether it's the strains getting more strained, or it's the store and people coming out to the store. I just see like if you just slowly keep pushing at something, she would just keep unfolding. You know. I was gonna say, like everyone has their own success is and always we look at this music industry and it's

so superficial, right. It's like people will look at you and be like, ah, man, like, well you ain't. You ain't doing what this person's doing and this person's doing. But I think success for everyone and happiness is subjective. You don't absolutely for a fact. And if you think about it, a lot of the stuff with some of these you know, some artists that are signed, you know, it don't when the curtain closed, it look a lot different backstage and it looks in front of stage, you know.

I mean, so it's it's like whatever you feel comfortable with, do you always Sometimes those people don't have the right control something. A lot of times they don't have the money, you know, you're taking money. You owe people a lot of money. You know, the stakes are higher, you know, so everybody's in your business trying to tell you what to do and what not to do. And it just depends on how you want to do this music thing. You know. The cool shit is like you able to

do it. It's big enough. The pool is big enough for people to do it every which way to get to it. And at the end of the day, you know, it's your legacy you leave them behind. And how many people you're gonna have involved with it? Yeah? Demmrick like you, you've been around some of the more legendary I mean obviously Cypress Hill, you know, Exhibit, serial Killer, Shit Dizzy and shout out TDJ Hopper too. Man. I feel like every time I see Diszey, I usually se DJ Hopper right,

shout out to hop Man. Just put a new album out too, hop in Friends part too, So go support that man. That's the homie right there. But what I mean, shit, you were just telling me like serial Killers Force coming, Yeah, fourth project man with dudes that I you know, shout

out Exhibit and be Real. It's like I just remember wanting to rap for be real and just wanted to just get into I was hoping that maybe I could get into the studio with him and and do some songs with him, to being on tour with them, to travel into even tapping into uh, introducing me to the songwriting or the or the touring and and all of that type of stuff, and then actually being able to loop it all the way around to being in a

group with them and four projects later. That's crazy. It's crazy who you said, but the four like you a doctor Dre might be touching something on the project. I mean, you know, I we'll let that unfold when it when it folks. But I'll tell you this, maybe twisting some knobs. You know, we shall we shall, we shall see. But uh but ship shout out busting rhymes, he on there, shout out, Uh. Snoop he on there and DJ Quicks

on the record, you know, and obvious that's big. It's crazy for me, you know, it's like get being on the even just being on a record with Snoop and Quick and Bust. I'm like, damn, I'm riding you see, I'm going bar and bar with bus to bus. You know, if it feels good. You know, one of my favorite guests versus or guest sogs you ever are? You were on the Faded record with Berner and be Real right now, I was on, I was on I wasn't on that one. No, you were on another one on that same album though,

uh was a patron Patrol. I was gonna say Perks and Patrol, Zanex and Patron. Yeah, Yo, But like, what are some things that you've learned from being around be Real? Being around Exhibit because a lot of people don't know man exhibits. Like a lot of people be like, well, what happened to Exhibit? But like Exhibit is a boss

on some other ship. He got his alcohol shit and his weed shit is out of here, like, and he definitely did the movies and the television and just shot the Triple X State whatever Triple X he was in with all of these Cube State of the Union. I definitely learned a lot from him, just on how to like move through the game and just you gotta be

confident and get into it. And he's you know, both him and be Real also taught me about diversifying and having multiple different things and even Dizzy Dizzey's killing it. By the way, we're gonna get to the guy damn the dizzy o G. Yeah, well shit, you know, shout out, shout out gas Cod because I got Demrix Gaslado and Demricks, Mac Tonight and Cushco. We got Stony Point with Hapa

selling and the stores in Vegas. So it's like diversifying and tapping into these different uh, just these different markets that are natural to what you do. What you do is is a big part of it. It's like, I've been doing this shit already for a long time, so it's just about doing it on on the next level and trying to make sure that now you're putting a stamp on it so that other people could try what

you think is fired. Yeah, I wanted Dizzey, I wanted you to kind of give me some insight on like on the on the weed side of ship, right because you got your your strain that's doing really well. I feel like I see a lot of dispensaries. I know it's an azy, I know it's I mean it's everywhere. What because I don't think a lot of people understand how how the weed shit works like legally yet still it's still kind of like wait what like so for you. Is it like they're licensing your name? Is it another

company you're working with? Like how hands honor you with the strain and the actual brand and the actual weeders, because you know a lot of times people will just like license your likeliness for whatever. The fuck? Right is it? Like? What is that? It's similar to that. Yeah, it's pretty much like that where they're license and my name and

my face pretty much. But back in two thousand, I think it was thirteen or fourteen, I was hands on deck with like helping create the strain, you know, finding the right strain. They were crossing a lot of different strains to try to find what would be the diz Og. So shout out the Crown Genetics because the Crown Og and the King Louis is the cross that we use to get diz og. And it's been that way ever since. You know, we knew back then that we was futuristic.

You know, it felt like it was just strong as fuck potent and it was like the next level of weeds. So we knew that it would it would it would live for a long time. So Dizzy o G has been doing really great and now we got the cookies. Now we're doing Dizzey cookies. Okay's my first train of cookies. So we tapping into something like that around here, starting in California. So I'm excited, man, Just taking of the day at a time, not moving too fast, you know,

and really trying to build the brand. You know, my face is on it, like your face is on it, you know, being able to walk in the dispensary and see my smiling face. Man, I'm like, I'm gonna push this ship to the death for sure. Yeah. Man, So it's been cool for a lot of fans that don't know behind the scenes. I don't know where you're at with the situation, but I had a conversation with Dame and him and Hopson are back kosher. Yeah, they're back talking.

There might be something happening between them two, not necessarily music, but something which I never thought would ever happened. Me and you, I mean, obviously you're really close to the situation, but you know, I mean, you guys are my guys and Dames. You know, I've had a good relationship with Dame for a long time, and I thought that that was like when he called me and told me that they were called was like You're for real the fuck now, I had asked him, like, so, does this mean the

gang is getting back together? Now? This was like a month ago and he and he had told me that you and him might have had like some weird energy. Now I don't know you and Dame, but like, what is that? What is the By the way, shout out to Jared Jaren for being one of the best people in the world, But what is like your interest in

getting the crew back together? Per se you Hopson and Jaren And maybe even if it's just a song, not even like Funk Volume coming back or on the album, like just the record something like that, what's your interest in that? I would be I would be down. I'm not gonna say that my interest is crazy high. Like it's something that I'm just extremely looking forward to, but I would like to see it happen eventually. It's crazy because as close as I was to the situation, I

disconnected myself so much. You know, when me and Dame kind of had our little falling out and the energy was kind of where between us, I completely just kind of detached myself from all thoughts of moving forward in any kind of direction with like Funk Volume with that old shit. Yeah, with the old shit I was trying to figure out. I kind of felt like it put me in a funk a little bit because the fans were kind of like, you know, I had never did nothing to have the fans you know, on my page

or coming at me with so much negative energy. This was kind of this kind of happened after the breakup, so it was kind of all like, I didn't do nothing wrong. Yeah, it was all kind of new for me, you know, new energy. So I had to figure out how to shake that and like do my own thing. But I absolutely don't know the details about Dame and Hop right now, like I was supposed to. Actually, I was gonna get with Dame a couple of weeks ago in Vegas, and we weren't able to make it happen.

But he's probably stuck at the craps table. Probably man is a gambling man. Oh yeah, he gets his money, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, we'll see, we'll see. I definitely think that it's a I think it's a beautiful thing to see Hop step into his own you know. I know that he's been doing some soul searching. He's been traveling, and I really wanted that for him as a hummy, even back when we were on the same

label together. So you know, if he was able to like tap into some some higher energies to make him, you know, see things a little differently and feel better

about himself. Like I'm off, I'm all about getting around that type of energy, and you and him had recently kind of correct me if I'm wrong, but you and him had kind of recently had a a resurgence in your friendship again first communication and like we did getting on the same page again, like it just kind of communicating because I feel like there was so much man during that time. I remember, like that last tory y'all

did together. I remember like there was just so much weird shit, like Hops had call it out Crooked Eye and all the guys and like just putting you in Jared, like yeah, we're catching Like I had heard that you guys had kind of reconnected recently and like just kind of I guess it came to a good place more recently. Is that's true? Yeah, Yeah, there was some things that I didn't know about the fallout that wasn't made really clear to me that I found out maybe two years later.

I hadn't talked to Hopson in like two or three years or some shit like that, and then I finally hit him and asked him a question. And from there, you know, I have realized that there was it was some extreme miscommunication when when funk volume was like falling apart. So we was able to kind of hash things out from there. And then last year I did go pop up on him. Well, he actually popped up on me and a lambbo. Yeah, I say, I'm on my tour bus,

but my boy popped up in the lembo. So I was just super proud of him, and we was able to just you know, get on good terms. And you never know, man, you never know the fans might get something. Is it kind of like a gifted a curse having fans like that? Oh for sure, because it's like like you said, it's like yo, they're hitting like like I feel like like those kind of fans like you know, shout out to strange music or like like those kind of fans are so crazy. Yeah, I tried to shift

away from those kind of fans. Actually, I kind of let them weary theyself out of the dizzy, right, vibes, you know, if that wasn't what they was into. Cause it's like, I'm not like a I fuck all the other rappers, but we fuck with you, you know type of dude. Like I don't want those kind of fans. I want fans that are real, like like music, enjoy music, and know how to pick the shit they like and know how to stay away from the shit that they

don't like. But I don't want to be a part of like, ah, fuck, this person fucked this person, but you to go, you know what I mean? It was just But then again, you can't you can't control how people think, and you can't control what kind of fans you have, so you gotta kind of roll with the punches. It's just a learning experience, that's fair. Man. You guys together this new project. You guys just dropped the video yesterday.

We did day before yesterday. Yeah, don't worry. Has it been hard like pushing like obviously putting a new album out, not being able to do the normal shit you would do, Like, has it been hard to like push this project the way you want to? Obviously? You guys fuck with us. Look at me fucking with your mike man, we're in

close proximity. This is a first interview with multiple three people, so excuse us, but I mean even like shooting videos and shit, like I remember like March April, like motherfuckers would get frowned upart if they're doing a video shoot, like you're a selfish motherfucker. Tell this, just thinking, Deren, we was looking at the situation, you know, I'm in Vegas and like, we got this project and we had

this whole plan put in place. You know, we were gonna start shooting videos and how we were gonna roll it out, and what we were gonna do, how we were gonna get the fans involved, all the shit, you know, and then the pandemic happened, and I was kind of like, I don't know if it's the right thing to do to come and shoot a video, and then you know, we had to kind of figure out like do we

let this time consume us? And then we like, you know, then sitting in a couple of weeks kind of looking like damn, I wish we would have shot that video at least so we could have something to promote, you know, instead of like not having anything. So we end up pushing through it. But it was weird. It was definitely weird, fucking weird. And if you if you even see the All Night video or the the we ain't the same. Like there's not a lot of people. There's no extra

people in the video. You know, it was very small set. We shot with one director, mad Alonzo, and uh, you know, we first one we rely heavily on the concept of like playing these characters and kind of having fun with it. And then the second one was a lot of graphics. So we made sure that, you know, because at that time, nobody was even trying to book out a spot or that's this thing, so it was like, you know, we

had to maneuver to try to make it happen. It's it's being more relaxed lately, I feel, yeah, it's kind of getting into I see people kind of maneuvering a little more. But yeah, a couple of months ago, you ain't know, how was it you just did a show in Oklahoma? Right, Yeah, I don't know what the by the way shot Oklahoma a great weed state now, a lot of dispensaries there. I went there to do a weed show. I was gonna ask you, like, what was that like doing the show during these times. Was it

like social distancing? Like, yeah, it was, And I was a little nervous at first, but you know, they made it very clear. You know, I could they had a spot for me that was kind of away from everybody, and I didn't have to do some of the obligations that I had agreed to originally before the like the meet and greed and kind of like sitting down and judging some of the shit, you know, some of the things that I just naturally would go do at the

weak events. It ended up just be it just ended up being me and Hapa and my boy Peanut popping up and you know, kind of just staying ducked off in the room, jumping on stage and doing the show. But I will say this, like the show for me personally felt really good because I'm like I hadn't been on stage. Yeah, it was super therapeutic. Bro, I damned there.

Didn't Like I like I was supposed to do a thirty minute said, I think I did forty five just off the shrink because I was just like having a great time on stage and I just realized how much I really like being on stage. So, you know, they were kind of far back and like they had them all social distance and like, you know, people it's a weed event, so you know, people were stone and kind

of just staring. But I was on stage, like you know, like I was at a festival because it's right, it had just been so long and when this when this

concert ship come back around and we could tour again. Man, shit, whoever, at the first couple of shows, they're gonna be in for a treat, because people gonna be going crazy, gonna be going for Are you guys worried about like because you know, Live Nation announced that they're gonna cut artists pay next year, are you guys like prepared to like make less money from promoters or maybe because I feel like at the very least, a lot of venues are gonna close, right, and a lot of promoters are gonna,

like I don't know how many are gonna survive, especially like the smaller promoters. And then I don't know how long it's gonna take for people to be super comfortable, like fuck it, I'm gonna pull up to a show, you know what I'm saying, even when shit is quote unquote back, Do you guys think like that might affect like either a like the bag that you guys are gonna get, or just the structure of the bag, like, hey,

if it sells out, you guys get a botus. I know that those already exist, but like, yeah, even more so that than like usual. That's why. That's why it's kind of like that balancing. You know, the shit is good for your soul exactly, and the ship that's like for the bag. You know, like if you a nigga like me that like thrives off of the fans' energy, you know, being able to get on stage and get off stage and fuck with the fans is everything for me. You know. That's how I keep going. That's how I

keep pumping out the music. Put because I'm inspired by just the every day struggle to everyday life people that's just inspired that's coming out to just all come to one place for the same thing. So I feed it. I kind of need that for my spirit. I found myself kind of like feeling a little lost at the beginning of this because I was just like, damn, I'm not used to dropping the project and just being behind

the keyboard the whole time. Yeah, exactly, It's extremely difficult for me, and like my store was shut down, you know, and I'm just like, this is just didn't feel right, you know what I'm saying. So it's really I think once the shows come back, you know, if long as you can make some money where you can walk away with some money and you're not losing money, it's a dub to me. Yeah, fans again, sell some merch. That's it.

That's it. And I look at it like even with dropping Blaze with us too, it's like we see the numbers and we're like, okay, and you see the comments of people saying that they fucking with the music, but nothing's like going to that concert or going to that show, or really meeting those people and seeing how much the music is inspiring them, or seeing them singing the lyrics like like oh this ship, this ship hit in Tulsa, those of every word off a project. I just drive

that part. I'm doing this for a reason. Yeah, that ship will keep you going. And then like getting fan paintings and ship yeah oh yeah, and I take them all home and hang them up. I cave them all this shit. I mean I cherished that ship. What was the Disney you Tourtech nine a couple of years ago I did. I did, and uh that's its own kind

of world, right street music thing. And then also just touring there like with them, like the rules are crazy, like the bus rules and they'd be fineing motherfucker like Travis don't play. Oh yeah, Like I know a lot of people who have either just quit those tours or gotten kicked off the tours. And how how was that experience touring Retecht nine and just getting getting into that world and then also kind of just dealing with all the strange music shit. Man, It's like inspiring, but it

was also extremely tough. You know, you can't smoke on the bus, right, yeah, you can't smoke smoking on the buses. And what bothered me, I think it's the going to venues that I went to by myself that you know they have they have rooms for me to smoke in. You know, they got ducked off areas for me to be. You know, they know they like dizzy coming. We got to make sure that we got a fan upstairs and we open the windows and let them be you know,

upstairs and away from everybody. And like, you know, some of those places we were coming to that had like those setups for me Strange Music was shutting it down, and that shit was eating at my spirit a little bit, because you know, I I thrive off not having no weed problems. I know I talk a lot about weed and shit, but it's not cool to get in trouble for this shit. You know. You gotta be smart, you

gotta move smart. And I you know, I dropped the album, my first album on four twenty in twenty twelve, and I ain't never had a problem, never had a run in with the police about weed, not once. You know, in my whole career. You're not gonna I'm not bragging

or like showing off. I'm just just trying to make it apparent like on how serious it is, you know, and especially in some of those ran the market you be in and what I install on my team, you know, because it's not just me, like I ain't never had nobody on the road with me getting too no weed trouble, you know, like personally somebody that I brought nah a nigga. We all on the same page, you know what I'm saying.

For years, so being on the road with Strange Music and having doing this for so long and always finding a way to stay out of the way. I felt like they kind of you know, they don't want you smoking in the venue. They don't want you smoking backstage, they don't want you smoking on the bus, they don't want you smoking in the hotel. So it's like, where do you want me to smoke? You want me to go outside in front of and you might get the fans,

in front of the people, in front of businesses. It felt more like I was being put in danger kind of like instead of being ducked off normally, you know, and I had I would call Travis a trip with him about this shit because I'm like, man, Travis, I feeling like, you know, you you Nigga's putting us in like dangerous situations. He just like, you know, the room. It's just like, yo, is that the toughest story to beyondest? Oh?

Very very much, so very much. So. I was inspired by Tech, you know, and just what he was able to build. You know, I'm just so inspired by you know, him and what he was able to do and how he's able to get up there and the show he's able to put on and every single city. Yeah, it's really inspiring. And he don't complain. He loves what he do. Like it's it's not like, you know, he's not pressed, he's not you know, complaining, he's not drunk, wilding out.

He's just tech. You know, he's working out, he's fucking but you know, shit, I feel the same way. I feel like I'm an easy person to work with. You know, I just need to be able to, you know, do my little smoke dang when I need to do my little smoke dang, and you know, maybe not blow it down on the bus where it might bring some extra attention to other people. But you know, when you at these shows, you definitely want to be comfortable, especially before

you get on stage. So it was inspiring, but it was also extremely tough for me. I can imagine, hey, bro, that honestly, that's the thing that's like, we live in we live in LA and Vegas. People legal and you know what I'm saying, And like when we traveling and shit like that, you get some places and you see

how that actual state really frowns on this shit. And then imagine not being able to smoke in the venue where you tucked away, like anything could happen to you out there on the streets if you're in one of those states, and it's a shame because six hours away you're good. Six hours away you good, and then six hours here you like, oh, you know, so much is on the line and something like they don't even allow smoking outside in some of the places where they kind

of wanted us to just kind of smoke outside. Yeah, you know, it's not my thing. You know, I try to do well with kind of stand duck off and out the way. You know what I'm saying. I don't need to be blowing it down all in everybody face and things like that. You know. So, but you know, at the end of the day, Strange Music runs they ship the way they want to run they ship, and it works and they've been successful, and they run it that way so they can keep law and ordering what

they got going. And you gotta respect that if you want to be a part of that. I went to be a part of they ship. It was you I signed up for. Now. Don't get me wrong. I was told that I could do my smoke thing. Now now

I agreed to not smoke on the bus. You know, I don't know if I would have I don't know if I would have signed up to not for it to be for me to be me and my team to be put in those kind of situations because you know, Nigga was raining and snowing and the type of ship and they're like, Yo, I'm gonna get fined if I smoke in the spot that they that the venue says

I didn't. I didn't because on you to perform right right, So Edibles, this is like a sangerous I like Edibles when I'm getting ready to go to sleep, you know, so when I'm operating during the day, you know, I just need to puff it down a little bit. I was just kind of like shressed out more than I'm normally shressed out on the road, you know what I'm saying. So other than that, it was all love. I feel like a natural thing that you and Berner have a

great chemistry on records, both of you guys. Actually, I'm curious, like Burn's knowing to drop just hell with collab projects. I mean, he just put out shit with Currency this year and another beat real project, like he's with either of you guys. Has there ever been a discussion of doing like a Fool release with Berner. I haven't personally talked to Burner about doing the full release. I talked to him about maybe like executive producing because his beat

selection is solid. Shout out to Cosmo. Yeah, Cosmo yeah, eat selection as wow. So I'm like Burn just picked the beast for me. Yeah, I mean, I'll go in on some of these because he always he always says the vibe on on his on his records, the music, the music is, songs are double full in it in its entirety, but his bat selection is, like, I feel like it's top level. Do you guys like Dizzy Obviously, Burn is somebody who's kind of another independent juggernaut, right,

another weed juggernaut. You know what I'm saying. Do you do you kind of get inspired seeing like some of the moose Berner does. Oh like a motherfucker. Man, that guy's killing it. I love it man for a long time though, you know, no, you guys, I mean he was on the Warner album. Like you guys have worked together for a while. It wasn't like recently, you know what I'm saying. And I've been inspired by Berner for

for a long time. But just some of the boss moves that he making right now, it's just like, you know, I'm just waiting for him to write the book. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I got the complete pieces that I because I just you know, when you got that much game, you know. Hopefully he feels generous enough to just dish it out so we could all get that kind of money. But I'm very inspired by him, and I just hope he keeps continues to keep the

right people around him so he can stay he will. Yeah, he's got a very short small circle. Would you ever do a I think it's it'd be natural for you to do a dizzy right or it's still moving dispensary in Vegas? Oh yeah, absolutely. I would love to grow into that man. That's uh you know me, I'm thinking that big for Shure, I just gotta just find one of the ones that's out there struggling and be like, yo, look, I'll just license the name. I'll show up, cut the ribbon.

That's it. Yeah, Because I feel like, man, that shit would be if you have a fucking dizzey right, dispensary that's a destination in Vegas, put it in there. That's it idea out there? Now? Yeah? For show? Is it how much you guys pay for wheat anymore? Either? Yeah, sometimes you still gotta you know, you gotta switching flavors up. You know, we get the pack, you know, but if you just want to smoke on the packs that you

get all the time, that's cool. But sometimes you know, you want to switch them flavors up a little bit. Be able to do that, you might have to you know, dish a little while, especially right now because there's so many different strains and dropping all the time. There's always something that new cross or something new on the on the cookie menu or doctor. Yeah. I don't like not knowing the fire that's out, Yeah, exactly. I like being a part of all. Do you guys, So the next

thing I know that's supposed to get legalized? I know in San Francisco mushrooms are legalized, and I know that like the idea of microdosing mushrooms has become more of like a an accepted thing amongst like telemercials like It'll make you know, the guy that Shark Tank like invested in a big mushroom company. Uh, do you guys dabbling the mushroom game at all? The psychedelics? I don't, personally, I actually ain't never dabbled into nothing but weed weed.

You know, I'm I'm a scary ass snigger when it comes to that ship. You wouldn't do mushrooms. It's from the earth. I know. I know people always tell me that maybe, but shit, I don't have no desire to or anything like that. Some people just like, oh, it'll make you get through your day better, or maybe it'll make you look at things a little differently. And I'm like, shit, right now, I like, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

What about I've done I've done shrooms twice and I had one great experience and I've had one not so good experience. So I'm all I'm like, was what happened with the not so good I just had? I had it just a piece of chocolate. I didn't know how much it was. And then, uh, I just was watching a movie and it felt like the person in the movie tell the person though. Samuel L. Jackson was yelling at me, and it tripped me out man big time.

And I was I was in Philadelphia and it was winter and you're in a row You're in a row home in there, so you can't really get out nowhere. And that's the first time and uh, yeah, you know, homies had to sit me down, you have relaxed, give me some water, tell me it's all in my head type ship. And then I was like, I'm not going to judge it off of that experience, because uh so, Samuel Jackson was like, coming out the TV on you

ain't motherfucker with something. I'm like, damn movie where you're watching it, because that also might be like I forget that, Yeah, one of them ones. And right anyway, he felt like he was talking to him. Yeah, black snake moan. I don't know, man, he's got something that I can imagine.

We're way more intense if you're on truth. But I realized though that you got to be able to be around the situation where you can move freely and it's good to you know, do it in like outside and nature and ship like that, and really enjoyed full spectrum of the situation. So I went back and redid the experiences. It was better. Yeah, it was way better, man, I'm like, but it's still I realized you gotta be able to, like, you know, people who like could have control over a

lot of shit. Probably not gonna like psychedelics in my opinion, because you don't got no fucking control over that. You know, your mind start going where it's going and you just gotta go with it, hit the button and just go. You'll get a bad trip or some shit like that. And that's what That's what always made me like I feel like I'd be one of them niggas that have start panicking, like and I don't want to take no motherfucking chances, so I don't do shit. Have you ever

had a bad like edible experience? I had actually had like a bad like Bung rip experience, Like wow, yeah, like I had too much just trying to hit one of them big ass bungs, trying to just be the biggest stoner I can be at the time, and I'm a clear right, yeah, I must have cleared that bitch, and you know, I just you know, this was back in the front volume days like hops In and Swizz was wearing those contacts and that ship was just too

much for me. And then I remember hops It took one of the contacts out and was like I looked like a devil and ship and I was like, oh, I think the hell No, I need to go to sleep and wake up and start over again. Like I tried it was the highest that I ever been. What about? What about? What's the highest I ever been? Was was

last November in Europe. Uh. Exhibit always like he likes to put a block of hash and cut a Snickers bar open and put the block of hash in there and then close it up and eat it, eat it, oh ship. And so for all these years of traveling with him, I never I never, I never tried it. And so we were all a shot out problem. He was out there, we was all out there, and I said, I said, fuck it, you know this this time, I'm

about to do it. And so I took a piece to the Snickers and I ate it, and uh, I got back to my hotel room and I started to feel my body. I started to feel myself like lift above my body and uh you know, and then I just I just laid there and just let it, let it happen. Eventually fall asleep, but I was on some next level. H yeah, man, put that put that hash.

Exhibit eats that normally. Well, I'm saying like on a day off, like let's say we do six seven years and they stay off, and he's like, he's like, fuck it, you know, I'm about to make the snickers with the hash and it who wants a piece? Typically, I would always be like, nah, I'm cool. You know you feel like you had superpowers at all when you had the edible like that, because like I had an edible ones and uh, it was a really rough night for me. It was a Ritz and Yellowolf concert, and I felt

like I could hear everybody talking in the concert. I could like hone in like there was like two thousand people in this ventu. You know, maybe maybe like one conversation. I'd be on the other side of the venue and I like look in the middle of a concert, just look at somebody on the other side of the building and hear exactly what they're saying. Yeah, you was tripping. I don't know if I was tripping, though I felt like I was like yo, I couldn't move my legs. Though.

I remember when I had the hash niggers, like, I was like, fuck it, I feel weird. I'm not to throw on like some YouTube and watch like a little movie or whatever. And slowly but surely the words stopped. I stopped being able to understand what was being said in the movie. Right, just sounded like shit just started off like what am I even watching? Just cut it off and it was a dangerous because you can't like eat to get it to go away. You know, got

to like just let the high pass. There's no other choice, bug, you can't. I tried to get in a shower and watch that ship. I had to look at myself in the middle and everything. I was just like off of Bonghad. Though off of Bonghad, Bro, are you not a big dabber? I imagine now I became a big dabber. This was before dabs was dabs, you know, it wasn't dabbing yet when I did this. Uh, And this was actually in Minnieanapolis.

I had first got with shout out to Prince with the funk volume Niggas, and it was like my first time going out there, and like Dame kind of had me running around watching what Hopson was doing. You know, as far as Meet and Greens skating, right, listen, you're gonna play skate with fans, Disney. You don't know how to skate, figure out how to skate. You're just gonna go show up at the fans house and play them

and skate fags fags, bro. But I remember I just started making my little fans, you know what I'm saying. And I went to go smoke with one of my fans and filled the bong up and tried to hit that big ass bong and was fucked up. Whole world tilt the sideway. Jesus, I don't like being that high. How was the experience of you guys doing the the album a couple of years ago with Audio Push and Jaring.

Everybody was in the house together. You're the only one who didn't show up to freestyle, by the way, everyone came into the radio station. But you blame blame Dame, blame Hey, I'm telling you, if Dame doesn't make some merg that just us blame day. He's cripping. But but how was that experience because that obviously I can imagine. I mean, I feel like staying in Austin and the recording process. I mean, all you guys are boys. Audio pushed the great guy shout out to Price at octane

and was great when we all went out there. We originally milia Rohaus was there too. Yeah, we was originally gonna get in the studio and then the studio didn't allow smoking, so we all brought studios. So we just set our studios up at the crib and just kind of turned it into like a little musical trap house, you know. And we we were there for the whole week and just feeding off each other energy from sun up the sundown, you know what I'm saying. And it

was dope. Then we like we were loving the record so much that we started going out and shooting videos and stuff like that and like really adding to it. It's very similar to what j Co did some years later with the Dreamville project. Yeah, it just invited a bunch of people. Yeah, when I seen that, I was like, damn, we essentially did something like that, you know what I'm saying. But the rollout and when it came time, just things

kind of went left field. Like me and Dame had a falling out, and then I wasn't a part of the Free Styles and I wasn't a part of a bunch of different shit, And I think it took a lot of momentum away from what we were doing. But as far as building it up to get it where

it was, we had a lot of fun. We had the creation part of it, just even tapping in with people, you know, somebody producing right there, another person coming up with a chorus, and then other room people working on the song, and yeah, people did still go two on the mic. Man, So I can only imagine like the like the friendly competition, Oh yeah, had the level of every times it's gonna be like what you got. Oh yeah, oh you had. You had the hardest verse yesterday, so

that means today I gotta had the hardest. Nigga was in there, he was doing it. It was a lot of fun. You had mentioned earlier that you were attempted to meet up with Dame a couple of weeks ago. What was the because obviously you had stuck you kind

of stuck with Dame after the Funk Volume thing. What was the like, what was y'all's issue that you know made that kind of split because I remember he stopped fucking with you and it was with Futuristic for a little bit, and he's doing his Entreneur music club thing, But like, what what had happened between you two? Obviously it's better now, I'm assuming, or at least on the way to be in bad. Yeah, it's on the way to being better. It's definitely. I definitely don't got no

hard feelings for Dame or nothing like that. I guess, Bro, I feel like I was the one to kind of ride with Dame definitely. And then, you know, finding out that Hopson wasn't making any money off of Dizzy Right was kind of like the big bang for me, because you know, Hopson made it seem like there was money problems, but he never said that he wasn't making a dollar

from Dizzy Right. You know, I'm on Hopson's label, and I respected Hobson so much, and I respected him so much, and I was very appreciative for him allowing me to come out and do those shows with him and get my feet wet as an artist. You know, I just wanted to get out of Vegas, Bro. You know, we was just out there all kind of doing the same little bubble. I feel like it's hard to get out.

It's hard to get out of it. And not only that, it's hard to get with an artist that has like fans in a platform for you to travel the world without it being like a major artist or like having to have like some crazy stipulations to it. So I felt like he kind of opened up his platform to me with open arms, you know, and finding out that he wasn't a part of the come up with me financially,

you know that he was pieced out of that. It just changed me and Dame's relationship forever because I thought Dame was the fairest nigg in the world, you know, But I didn't know the logistics on the problem. And that's why me and Hopson had to have a conversation because I had to call him like, Bro, did you ever make any money? He was like, Noah, and that's

my fault. I should have told you. And I'm like, you let three years go by a nigga with me running around with this nigga and you didn't let me know thinking that this nigga was the fairest nigg in the world, and it kind of blew my mind when I you know, I had to just ask dam like was Hopson cut out? And its just like yeah, you know, because he pretty much felt responsible for finding me and giving me the opportunities, even though it was Hopson's platform

we was using. So I just felt some type of way about that shit and I wanted to like separate myself from that. What I didn't do is I didn't say anything to and I didn't like make it a big thing. I didn't get on my hops and ship and and like, Yo, fuck this nigga, Dad, I'm not fucking with him no more. I just stopped fucking with him. I'm gonna move accordingly now. But a lot of people felt like Dame was still in my corner kind of

helping me out. And I seen the fans responding to a lot of things thinking that Dame was the one moving with me when I was moving by myself for so long. So I just felt like the best way to get out of that was to just keep working, you know, just keep working and keep doing things for myself. But uh, yeah, it was a tricky little situation. Was it was that the same I mean, I don't know if you know this or not, because I'm not trying to, But was it was that a similar situation with Jaron?

You think, where like, did you know if Hopsin saw anything off of Jaron? I don't know. I don't know, to be honest. I always thought we all had similar deals, and that's why I always thought it was fair, and I just thought that what was fair. Hopson didn't think that was fair anymore. So that was alway, Hey, from his perspective totally right from his perspective, totally because he deserved to have a team behind him instead of just

one person. So I completely understand paying one person for what a team could be doing and getting one person's results instead of a team results could make you feel like that. So I definitely, I definitely just learned a lot from that shit, bro and then going into doing still Moving records, my own label and shit like that. At first I was going to do it with Dame,

and then I just learned more about the business. And as I was learning about the business, and I don't want to make it seem like I'm throwing Dame under the bus because we're passed this and I feel like you live and you learn right or like I have no hard feelings or anything. But at the time, oh yeah, I was salty than the motherfucker, you know what I'm saying, because I felt like I have road with somebody and I didn't know the full truth and I didn't know

how to feel about that. Damn. Yeah, that's crazy shout out to I mean, I, like I said, I'm just happy that at the end of the day, like there's some sort of roadmap to everyone just talking again. I guess yeah, I think everybody. Everybody could have did better and everybody still can do better, so you never know where it could go. All right, So the album is out, Uh go support it you guys. It was this a one off with Smokers Club or you guys going to

be doing more stuff with them? Because I know you guys are obviously you know, I know you got hell of shit coming out and your album is getting wrapped up right. Yeah, yeah, I'm about to drop another album. Uh this I wouldn't say, wouldn't lock it down as a one off, you know, shout out the Smokers Club. We feel like they've been extremely tapped in with us and supportive to what we got going on, so maybe we can run it back. You know what about Demrick?

I know with the serial killer shit, you have another shout out to yo. Can we bounce to Tony Chalk, Demrik EP, Let's go Tony Chalk, bring your Vietnamese ass on camera real quick. Let's go, man, let's get it Tony Chalk. I happen to manage Tony Chalk by the way out to Tony Tap. But uh yeah, so your album is done or is almost done? Done? Okay, we're mastering it today. Who can you tell us who's gonna be on the album? Chevy Woods would be on there. Shout to Chevy, Shout out to my boy, Chevy Woods.

I love a cook, Chevy Woods. He's a chef. Oh my god. Yeah, they have it cooking with Chevy. Yeah. Yeah, he's like kind of he really be feeling himself. It's telefoot pull up man. Your next time you come to the studio, brings some of them homemade dishes. You feel me right that part? Uh? So that album's coming out, anything like, do you have like any sort of idea next month? I'm gonna drop it next to month. I also got beans on their beans Aces girl beans, Yes,

from the Netflix show from the netflixire. Yeah, we just did a video too. So we got a video coming called Sick of Complaining. I'm excited about that. Let's say, just working with different artists, saying creative, you know, and staying inspired by people's hunger. Demrick when it's Serial Killers for coming out, it'll come. It's called a Summer sam so it'll be out sometime next month. So we were we're still locking in the exact day, but it's for

sure coming out in September. What is I know, Demrik could be doing a lot of writing for a lot of artists. Like when you do that, like is it, uh do you ever like like how how do you approach that creatively compared to when you work on your

own shit, It's really the same process. But I just think kind of like tapping into the energy that, you know, the goal that that artist is trying to get accomplished, and just trying to more essentially write, get creative with that person, you know, and kind of just keep that in mind of the direction that they're going to go with. I'm one of those people that I like to make music. I can make a lot of music, hit the studio,

and just get creative. So if one day it's going down this lane, next day we're doing some stuff for some television and film, or if I'm plotting on something that I want to do, then I'm just always putting a plan together. Really, is it still like extremely uh taboo to like ghostwrit or like if you're like a rapper and you have a ghostwriter. I just I don't know. I don't think so, just because I just feel like

songwriting is songwriting. You know, people get it. Feel like the Drake thing kind of made it like a little bit more okay, even though he got shipped for it at first. But now it's like, yo, fam, Drake's still the biggest rapper of the world. Fans made it clear that they don't care. Yeah, and like low key. If you go back to like Kanye's first album, Ryan Fest wrote Jesus Walks and people didn't give a fuck, and a lot of those people be in the room would

get creative. You know. There's some people that like to sit in the room by themselves and they got the whole plan on how to get to a to Z, and then there's other people that like to get creative with people. You know. I'm one of those people that. That's why I have a lot of projects with different people, because you know, whether it's a producer or different artists,

and I'll be in groups. And then also even when I do my solo shit, I kind of like team up with certain people to do it because I like the team effort of creativity. You know. It's like I don't think that I ever was, you know, sitting in there just writing, you know, writing raps all by myself. You know, saying I was just gonna change the world

like that. It was something that I always did with my homies, that I always did with other creatives, and I feel like it's it's helped me in this industry, do you know, just be able to hop on some with somebody's team and then also do my own thing and then do like it's you know, just should be happening. Yeah, Yeah,

that's it. That's what. Oh I love. I love tapping in with a with a producer and uh kind of working together on a on a vibe and energy, and that's how you get Stony point one and two and Blaze with US one and Blaze with US two and Serial Killers the fourth one. And remember I came I came from a group, so that that always says just been in my heart. I guess the way I create. Wait, which group did you come from? I was. I started

early in a group called Tangle Thoughts. So we live in Philly and we moved out to LA together and we actually released a Corrupt Presents album with with that group in two thousand and seven. Bro, So that's how far back it goes. Damn, I didn't know that. So you were like rolling with the corruptionhit back in the day.

That was it. That's how That's how I evenknew to come come out here to LA because we were hitting all the ceilings in Philly and it just didn't feel just didn't feel real, you know, it didn't feel like we could take it to the next level. So to get the opportunity to come to LA was that was it. And especially with somebody you know at that at that point, corrupts already legend. You know you grew up there. Man. Let me tell you some Streets is a Mother is

one of the most slept on albums of all time. Man. That fucking Roscoe his brother. Yeah, it's fucking fire exactly. And he could like rap rap. Both of them can rap rap. But like I mean, obviously, you know, it's just it's it's crazy when you think of Corrupt and like how like I always remember on the Eminem Show when Eminem like named all those rappers that get put ahead of him, like Corrupt was one of them, red man. But I just I guess I wish Corrupt's career would

have shook it out a little bit differently. Hey, bro, But if you look at them plaques and them records, that he's no for sure. I'm like, damn, like there was a point in time where he was on everybody's album that like so many goods and shout out to Corrupts moon Rocks. Hello, those moon Rocks ain't no joke and they've been booming for a long time. Yeah, last question, Dizzy, this for you. Logic just retired to be with his family. Obviously,

I know you're a big family guy. Like, could either of you guys ever see yourself just stepping away from hip hop? It's not making albums, just like I'm done, I personally can't see it right now for me. Just that's why you gotta just do things for your soul. Man. You gotta make sure you know. I was there. I've seen Logic's whole you know, I was even on tour with him, and I really just you know, I watched

how you move. I paid attention. I'm an observer. You know, you really gotta move at your pace and make sure you're doing things that's right for your spirit. If you'll get into a position and it'll be overwhelming, you know what I'm saying, And I feel like you'll find yourself needing to step away or take a breather. I don't think Logic's done forever. I think Logic just needs a

break from all the judgment that comes with him. Probably. Yeah, he's been getting mad, you know, and he's been getting it for a couple of years many. I feel like ever since Everybody album came out and he kind of started to talk about his biracial like, just been on

since then on his head. Bro, it's been o. He ain't been getting no slack from there, and it was already tough for him before then, just with the stigma of being like a white rapper, you know, but I'm also I'm biracial, right, But you know, he wants to be known for what he is. So not to get too deep or go to off subject, but I personally can't see myself stepping away right now. I want to keep inspiring and I feel like I'm getting better. Right,

Could you ever retire? I don't think so. I'm always going to be involved in this shit in some kind of way. I mean, this is this gave me life, gave me purpose. Right. It's like, once I started doing music, I fell in love with it. Then I had a direction in life. Before that, I just was I just was out here, so I think that I couldn't see myself in the same thing like I see myself. I gain more fans, more traction, get more opportunities, and understand even my story better about what I want to talk

to people about. As the years progress, you know, I still got to I wake up every day trying to get behind the mic or or at least find a play to do with some music that I got going or something. So my mind's in the game, but different levels. You know what, shit, you might catch me behind making a beat one day. You never know. Come on, I mean yeah for sure. All right, well look go get the album. It's out you guys each got a lot of new music coming out too soon. Any more video

is going to be coming out from the project. Or this last one was like was that the last one? Yeah, don't worry. It was like the the last one, the finale, kind of the bow on the campaign, and well we dropped four so we got we got all night. We ain't the same medicated and now don't worry. Don't worry. It was like the biggest streaming record, right it was, Yeah, it was boom. Well, yo, go get the project. Thank you, guys for checking in as always and uh yeah, man,

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