#137 - Latto

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and that's being top tenary not over. Yeah, I know, I said, oh, top forty on Billboard right that I had to post it because I was like, I wrote, this goal is for like the year, not the three weeks into the year. Yeah. I mean that's a big accomplishment. You've had such a long journey in this music industry. Some people are just finding out who you are. Like there's like, you know, I I show people your La Leakers freestyle all the time. I'm like, no, a lot

those hard. But you've been around for so long, just grinding as an up and cooming art. It's like to get that first top forty records, gotta feel amazing, man, what this stuff like? Like you said, I've been rapping for a long long time, So this stuff like eight year old me dreamed of. I don't take nothing from granted, Like I love my life. So on your goals list, you had a lot of stuff blurred out. Can you can you give us one of the blurred goals? One

of them was obviously that feature. You know that feature that feature if you know, you know, I can't even elaborate because you know, you're not even supposed to talk about stuff like this. You supposed to just let it manufact. You can't, like I take your guests, Beyonce, I don't know. I'm not going to confirm with you not Beyonce feature

kind of hot super fire. Yeah, I really feel like I would like to see I don't know why this this is random because maybe musically you guys have different styles, but each of you can rap at a very elite level. And hell just was on NAS's album Oh Ship. You know what, my daddy loved Lauren. My daddy loved Lauren. We met Jerry Wanda, and I guess he like produced for them, no disrespect. But you know, I don't this

passed my generation. I just know I grew up and my daddy would like put me down with all this stuff, and I'd be like, okay, nod, nod, nod, No they notice. So I know the names and you know a little bit of their catalogs, and I was like my dad was like, what, like, yeah, yeah, so you didn't so so your dad had to put you on the Lauren Ship.

And yes, Jerry like produced like they major, Like he produced something I can't remember, but I made him coolest for humble as hell, like yeah, your pop, Like was he like a huge music head? Did he have like a lot of yeah, like he it was more like not just overall music, just like more like hip hop, you know everything else, Like I learned like the R and B ship from my grandma. My mom was so

that was putting up on the rap ship. Yeah, and then he didn't really fuck with too many females, but like the ones that I know I know from him, like that nigga when he fucked with a bitch, Like he loved Left Eye. He loved Lauren like you know what I'm saying. Who else he loves Kim Like we're his favorite, like just rappers in general, Like what was the ship that you were like jumping in the car with your dad and it was his favorite song? Ever?

Is like something bone Thugs, Bone Thugs and Harmony, Yeah, something probly cross Roads, something like that ice Cube Today was a good day or a good day. We need to move your dad to la because both of those artists perform at some festival in Ontario, California, once every ninety days. There's like a Toyota Center West Coast Fest

going on. Yeah, so he like he from Ohio though, but he like loved like West Coast Ohio bones from Ohio, so that makes sense and he do love him some bone shot, but he like he go crazy for n W a pug Like, Yeah, so I grew up on that. My parents were like in the like Death Leopard and like yeah, no, I got you know, my mama's side, on my daddy's side, So I got like a little bit of everything. I'm not too familiar with everything. Yeah, because you're you're mixed, right, So your mom what was

she listening to? See? My mama was more like all over the place, like she loved like R and B, oh school R and B. But like she grew up on like country music, like that side like her mom and them they like country music. Like when I go out there for like and during the summer stuff, it'd be like country pulling out guitar Like yeah, you know, it's funny because like I just started watching this show called Yellowstone. Have you heard of the show. It's with

Kevin Costner. It's about this ranch in Montana, some gangster shit. It's like powerful with cowboys about a ranch. There's some gangster ass ship. There's these motherfucking cowboys that be killing people. It's fucking wild. But it made me like be like, dang, I need to start listening to country because it is I feel like country is kind of like rap music but just for rednecks. No, I think I think it's it's with all the music genres, like we be talking

about the same shit. It's just like our beats are different, our flows are different. You know what I'm saying. We all talk about fucking getting money and all type of shit. We're just saying it different. If you had to, like, you know, give me like your top three influences just as a rapper that you you know, because you, like I said, you've been doing this a long time. Like who was who was like very influential to you in

your style? Top three I'm gonna say for sure, Nikki, because you know, I grew up like I was saying, like my dad taught me about all these feelings that came before me. But it's like it's different when somebody come out during your generation, because it feels like he touched me. She used to go like definitely heavy influence. I used to what Nikki Gucci. Gucci always been my favorite rapper, like that slow Southern aesthetic like and then you know I grew up around that lifestyle, so it's

like I appealed to that. Then I will say I'm stuck between. I probably say t I, t I T Y. You see t I is doing stand up comedy. Now he was on stage the comedy. Is he give me the yeah, give me words? You know Gucci? Uh, you know, Gucci to me is the greatest an R and hip hop history. I think he's got the best ear we've ever seen. Yet don't find him an artist that nobody

heard of and they're gonna blow yeah. And like if you even just think of the people he's put his arm around early, like the Egos or even like Ni yeah Nikki exactly, Like what was it like to have him put his arm around you and have him on one of your first records that really commercial? That ship was solid because Gucci ain't just gonna stamp no bullshit, you know what I'm saying, Like, you can't just pay Gucci to do a feature and he just gonna do

it because you're paying him type shit. He got to actually fuck with you, you you know what I'm saying. So when they was like, actually know a case in which he did take some money from a Korean pop band. It was a nice bag. Yeah, shout out to him. But anyway, it was, it was, it was, it was a great bag. So anyway, yeah, if you independing what

kind of money were talking about what I'm saying. But no, like they was like, no, he fuck with you, like he gonna pull up to the video, he gonna like whatever, and he was just humboys hell. And then that's big for Atlanta, Like you're talking about a nigga like being from Atlantah, Gucci is legendary period. Like I feel like he is kind of the mountain, the mount Rushmore in Atlanta. Like we could talk about GZ and t I, but I just feel like in Atlanta, it's Gucci and then

it's everyone else respectively. Yeah. No, maybe nationally when we think of Atlanta, you put Gez up there. I just think in Atlanta, Gucci is the he is the uh he is that, He's the one. He's him, duncan he's him. Yeah, Yeah for sure for sure. So with this record, Big Energy, this is a record that as soon as I heard it, I said, Okay, she finally got her crossover record. This is it, this is this is your moment. Like I was like, okay, this shit is like a layer you

know what it's gonna do. This is a layup. The sample, everything about it was just great, like it's you know, I was talking to Lauri earlier and she was like, it's just such an easy song to work. Like if you don't play this song, you're a fucking hater. Did you know that right away? As soon as you cut the record like that, it had that potential, you know what I did. But I would only say I did because I'm so hard on myself. I'm so hard on myself.

The only reason why I feel like I knew that is because first of all, I was working on this song for like a week, like every day going to the studio working on this same song eight hours. But every time when I went back home, well to the hotel, I was like humming that shit. So I'm like, this shit means something. This shit means something. Because I'll get frustrated and then leave a song, you know, and then

come back to it a couple months later. Wall I did like that song but that why I did not leave it alone because I'm like, I keep humming this ship for a reason. So have you ever had a guy have big dick energy and end up not his energy not necessarily lining up with his actual physical uh situation? You know, I ain't gonna lie. I've been blessed in

that department. I feel for my sisters. I read out stories on Twitter, like I thought they had big, big, big energy, and then we went to this crab and then ship kind of was a little disappointing, and I asked like a question like that on Twitter. I was like, you know, like, have you I ever been in a situation where it wasn't big dick energy and the stories I was reading, child, I'm like, babe, I'm blessed. I'm blessed, Like I feel like bless like like what is the

energy you think? Cause I know I know guys with little dick energy usually they have they have like really big trucks or like it's just like do too much. Like it don't even gotta be like a material thing or like what you own. It's just like a more of a like person, like like it's a charisma. Big big dig energy is a charisma or personality. It's just like how you walk, how you talk. It's not even like, oh I gotta chain, Oh I got a Ferrari like nine times out of tender little dick Nick. They gotta

they gotta compensate, you know. I can't deal with that little messy drones shit. Yeah, well you've been blessed. Yeah, I'm very blessed. Shout out to you. Is there gonna be a remix for this record? Because it feels like the kind of record there should be like a maybe a Doja Cat feature on the remix you guys on the same label. No, we're definitely working on a remix. We're definitely working on It's just this song is like

it's opened so many doors for me. So I'm like, and I'm already just hands on with my career, Like I irritate everybody. Everybody gets some No, I get on everybody's line. They don't want to too, but I know I get on everybody now. So you know, I'm just like very particular about it. It's like, I'm not just gonna just let anybody. I could hear Doja Cat on this though. Have you guys talked there been a little chat, maybe some sort of music in general. I don't want

to say yes. I feel like it'd be such an easy play. You guys are on the same record label. Yeah, let's just put it in the air. Doja Cat on the Big Energy Remix? I like the way that sounds. I like the way it sounds. I haven't even made like a for sure decision on who I want. I'm not sure you could put a man on that. Tell me, could you put a man on the on the Big

dig Energy Remix? I'm not sure you could because because you would, but you would have to, wouldn't you have to kind of like be like listen, man, you can't have no medium dick down there. If you can be on the remix out, I don't know. Maybe you get only fans girl that test it out like a I'm thinking about him for the I saw that he was like and your big I'm curious. No, I think I think it would be cool to hear a boy perspective too, though. That's fair, that's fair, that's fair to be a girl.

What would the girl if a guy made a remix to your record and but he put the male perspective on it, what would it? What would it be what would be like instead of would it be like clean? No. I feel like they expecting it to be clean because it's like big radio record. No. I mean like, would it be like clean pussy energy or would it be he said it would be the male Yes, oh big dig energies. Because it can't be big clean energy because that's not a track that sounds like you got a bodybuilder,

a bodybuilder growth or mo. Yeah. Probably like clean, like like good a balanced pH energy, Balanced pH Energy. I liked the balance page Energy. I like that. You know, I feel like a lot of people have used the pandemic as an excuse to be lazy or why they popping, or why they're broke. You know a lot of motherfucking rappers who's struggling, right. I feel like you really just gluw up on a whole other level career wise in

the last two years. Yeah, like what do you? I was gonna say, what, Like, what was your mindset going through? Because I really put that pressure on myself though, like nobody knew this, but I had signed in December years the pandemic twenty nineteen, twenty twenty twenty, because you signed during the pandemic no, No, twenty nineteen. So you've signed yeah before the pandemic. Yeah, so it's been two and

a half years or two years in a couple of months. O. Life just flying it sure is anyways, twenty nineteen December twenty nineteen, I signed. Nobody knew because we was, like, you know, trying to have a game plan before of course announced that and sh so I was already signed December. We didn't announce it till like March, and then the pandemic like hit hit in like April. Yeah, it's it's

like it hit in March. Low key, Yeah, like it was like when I announced it, Like I remember like talks of that like that same week type shit type ship, like or two weeks later type ship, Like oh, it's gonna be this like shut down. Like I remember being like, HM's just like this deal, we got this whole, we got game, we got yeah, we gotta we got stuff we gotta do. Yeah, so what do you mean shut down?

I was just like nah, hell and I've been waiting all my life for this fucking major record deal with Yeah, so doesn't hurt too. Atlanta really never closed. Atlanta was lit. We was in Atlanta in January last year, and I was it was like it was like being in a different world because we live here and over here's fucked up, Like you can't go nowhere, you gotta We were in Atlanta and I was like, Jesus Christ, I'm a fucking ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna say that's a good thing.

It's a bad thing. It's just a different thing. I ain't mad at it. It's kind of like, you know, I think a lot of those cities kind of blew up, low key, like I know a lot of people who were just going to Atlanta the party, going to Miami to party because they couldn't party here. We're going to Arizona. Even like Scott Steele, that ship just a sensitive subject. Have you caught the Rona yet? I did have Corona? Yeah, I did. I feel like everyone's gonna catch it right

the end of November early December. Was it a mild case. Yeah, mys was like the new variant whatever, that's like the only Yeah, the O Marion Marion Marion's nothing right. It's like a It's like a couple of coffee, only like I only tested positive for like three days. Well, I think no, no, I tested positive for like a week whatever, but the like contagious stages on like three days, and it just really feel like a cold, like I had the old school where I couldn't smell. Oh yeah him so.

And it's funny because I woke up one morning and my wife was cooking breakfast and I was like, you're cooking. Yeah, I can't smell nothing, and I have like a little small pump about taste. I could still taste, but it was it was like seventy percent like normal. But so I have like a little Pomeranian, like a little dog, right, and he shat on the grass outside, and I said, this is the real test I got. I got on my knees. I took a sniff of his shit and

I didn't smell nothing. I said, well, looks like I'm fucked. Well Ali, I mean you know what I'm saying. That could be a good thing, though there's nothing good out of not being able to taste. There's nothing yet. So I I do have a friend who allegedly can't smell. His name is TJ. Complex. Allegedly I say, because allegedly, yeah, he says, because he can't smell. He says that he's never had to worry about woman odors in his life.

And I, while I do understand that could be a positive, to me, it's a serious negative because you have no idea what you're signing up for. Down like you wouldn't like you would know, like if something was crazy, you'd be like, I gotta rethink this. But for him, he's just and he can't taste either. So he's just kind of had coronavirus his whole life. Allegedly he was born like this, Hey, some shit happened. I don't even know. I don't even know. Oh, so the don't have nothing

to do with he can't taste. He can't smell, like since I've known him, it's been like since O eight. I wouldn't say that, like that's a good thing to not be able to smell. I agree, But he acts like, you know, it's a good thing, man, you know. I'm like, bro, it's not a good thing. Yeah, no, it's not a good thing. Tasting would be the worst. Though. What do you like to eat? I don't like your mind went there. I see where it went. I just met. I just met.

I was coming from a fat guy perspective talking about actual food and see I'm talking about it. If he can't taste, so that's another thing. If he goes down there and it's and it's sour, you won't even know. I don't know. It could be bad. And if you're at the chick like let's say he's in a relationship with a girl, she low key could be like, man, I ain't even fucking showering and he's gonna eat my pussy anyway, what's the matter? This ain't that's saying balanced

pH energy, not balanced pH energy at all. But in general, what you live in Atlanta, which is one of the best food cities. I love going to Atlanta and eating, as a matter of fact, some of the best cuisines and strip clubs. Is it? What is your favorite ship to eat? Like, what are you enjoy eating the most ten piece of lemon pepper wet Wi strip club? Though? Mmm, because Magic Cities Flame I went and the wings were. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna say wins on

my shin on no chef. But one time, like kind of recent, let's say, within like a year, that ship was not as good as it usually is. I heard killer Mic always tells me blue flame. Yeah, no, everybody say blue flame. Yeah, that's really like if you're going for like food, but you know that's more of like that. Ain't the most touristy ship, are you? Are you beneath at this point eating waffle House afore you? Hell? Fuck no?

I eat house faithfully. Got to be like old Faithful, Right, It's like you know what it is, like, you know what you're getting. It's always open and it's good fucking food. There might be a world star fighting the lobby, Yeah, the chef might. Yeah. Waffle House a WHI. I feel like at least once a month there's like a viral YouTube video about waffle House, Like it's like waffle House is legendary Florida. Waffle House chef shoots Patriot over meth deal. It goes down and walk out like I didn't pay.

I didn't pay the fucking shove Like they be like acting like they fake closed and ship like when they get too busy, like around like three am when everybody coming down to the club, so they'll pull up and they'll be like, now we ain't taking orders. I'm like I get three hundred bless you, and they'll take it and they'll give you their mixtape. Yeah, someone went to Atlanta. I swear to god, I might even like I went to Atlanta. The chef recognized me. He gave me my

food and passed me his mixtape. I was like, you know what, to Atlanta. I'm gonna pop that in, bro, and I'm gonna see what I would see what it sounded like. It always be weird for me when they when they do that to me, because I'd be like, Nigga, I'm trying to make it. Yeah, I'm still on my ship right now, bro, Like what you want me to do? I'm worried about my ship. Look, yeah, what I'm gonna do? Yeah? Yeah, But I just be like, yeah, you know, good luck.

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for the last twenty years. Oh yeah, since like two thousand. It's been a very long time. You guys have had the rains. But we always hear about, like how important it is if you're coming out of Atlanta to and it's very heavily saturated market with artists because a lot of people move there too to try to make it

in the rap game. What were the things you had to make sure you did to pop off in your own city before you had it, before we got big energy, Because I know it's a very it's a it's a very tough place to I mean as much people are like it's easy as a lot of competition, that it's oversaturated because everybody that live here want to rap, and then you got people who come here to pursue their

rapping dreams or singing dreams or whatever. But I think I really had the easy way out because I've been doing it so long, Like it wasn't no thought process into this ship, Like oh, like I'm an adult, now what I'm gonna do? Like I want to do it like I it's all I know, Like I've been doing like real. When I say rapping at eight, I'm not

talking about like for my mom and shit. I'm talking about like I would get picked up from school, do my homework in the studio lobby, and then go record type shit like full blown open mics, talent shows like my daddy had me doing everything in Atlanta. And that's why, like every artist in Atlanta that seen me somewhere like I didn't did a show opened up for something with every artist in Atlanta. So that's why I get so much love and respect the seen you grow up. Yeah,

this ain't no microwave overnight. Like she put in her fucking work for this ship. So they respect you, do you because we always think of like when you're coming up as an artist, right, you have opportunities to open up for artists. Sometimes you got to pay to open up. Did you ever have to do that? My daddy for short and paid like two honey here, three honey here

to like that just to get you. Do you remember the first show you opened for when you were young, where you were like, oh shit, I'm opening for this person mm or somebody random you opened up for somebody random. Let me think there's a lot of random rap concerts it is, but it's gonna be like the niggas. That's more like, oh, that makes sense. Like I didn't open up for Future. I didn't open up for Gucci way way before our song. Like, had you told me you opened up for Pete Poblo, I'd be like, h how

was that show? And enough for Past de Troy for Travis Porter fire shout out to Travis Porter, Man, I wish they would have kept they had a wave. What We were just talking about that in the studio the other day because this nigga I'll be working with London Jay. He was like, man, you need to make a song for the college girls, and I was like, nigga, Travis Sporter had their ass on lock hell yeah do that. But yeah, shout out Travis Sporter. That's legendary a Linda ship.

But yeah, I didn't opened up for them and every everybody, even one hit wonders out of Atlantic. I didn't opened up for him, for sure. There's a lot of one hit wonders out in Atlanta. It is. Everybody is we've been running it, but everybody ain't had the loan chevy. Everyone like there's been guys who caught one. This one crazy, but it's like, where's the follow up? And by the way, I just want to use this interview to acknowledge the

goat rich Homi Kwan, who I feel like. I feel like rich Onemi Kwan is like the most one of the more under underappreciated artist. Oh yeah, for sure, he is his wave. I was living in Tampa, Florida when rich On mc kuan was popping. Yeah, and nobody in the world was bigger than rich On Kwan for about twelve years. That motherfucker was on fire. I think I was in like middle school. I hope he catches one soon because he is very talented. He talented as hell.

One thing about it, you ain't gonna play with that man. Pin. Y'all know, we got a lot of them, like underrated niggas, like rich kids, y'all probably don't know about them, but like schooly like we got a school is incredible man, talented as hell, Like talented as hell, like niggas who just never got their fucking props, like people be trying to play with them, Like school is still going in Atlanta don't give schooly a little legend. I don't give

a fuck. That's facts. His paining's crazy. What that man talented a fuck then he started all this shit. But you know this day, Well, did your dad put you on the outcast when you were younger? Hell? Yeah, my daddy loved fucking Andre. That's definitely gonna be probably, if not his number one, top three like to me, the top five greatest rapper of all times three stacks and he's from your city, so oh man, what but maybe a bit before your time, you know what? I want

to say. My daddy was cool with so many people. I could be tripping up, like, but this is how I even started wrapping up my daddy in a little street nigga type shit. So we would be I'd be running around with him like at Dada House. At Dadada House, I'm pretty sure I've been to Big Boy House when I was like a kid. I feel like that sounds right because I went to Atlanta one time, yeah, and I ended up in Stink on You, and I was like, oh my god, I was taking pictures and ship I

was there listening to kill you know. I met up a killer Mike there. But I was like, this is fucking legendary. Yeah. Oh yeah, I've been finishing up my well right now, I'm in La finishing it, but I was just in Atlanta finishing it in on you too. How was the album coming along? So good? So good, so good, just trying different ship, right, it really being done. I'm not gonna lie, but I'm a capricorn. I'm a perfectionist, so you know, putting finishing little tweaks. Yeah, and then

like i'd be like waiting for the Beyonce future. Yeah you know what I'm saying. Wink wink. No. Yeah, it's coming along real, real good. Though, Like do you feel like you know, you have like your core fan base that knows you for like the ship you've been doing the last five or six years, right, and then you catch this crossover banger like like Big Energy is, Like it's it's very much a smash, but it's also kind of like a little different, right from what you're like

kind of used to doing, very different. Do you have any like are you kind of starting to try to lean into more like doing Yeah, I'm open, but you're more the pop ship yeah, hell yeah, because I want to be ship this ship give me some money, different money, so you know what, checks got bigger, checks got bigger. Price went up, Price went up, price went up. So hell yeah, we finished dippling dad up being that shit some more. I ain't mad at it, So you would

just say I'm of a ninety nine percent nine. I ain't gonna lie to me, like if you ask my an rs and be like, bitch, shut up, it's done. But I think I would say probably, Like I say, probably ninety five because I really just want to like beat out maybe like two songs type shit, like if I like these songs, but if I can make like two songs better than these, I'll be straight. Let me ask you this. You're an amazing MC lyrically, You're gifted. I mean the Super Gramen freestyle was fire. The La

Leaders freestyle was special. When it comes to crafting like big hit records, were you ever hesitant about like maybe having the label bringing someone to help you with a hook? Hell? What? Because you're like, what I do? My shit? What is that even something that's in bounds? Like? What would like? Because because I know you had and J who I was just talking about? He he adopte ass writer from Atlanta. Like,

but my whole thing is even. Well start from the beginning, I was like, hell fuck no, y'all got me fucked up. Y'all trying to turn me into this industry bitch. But then you like, yeah, I write my shit. Yeah, like you like, man, hell no, but you mature and you see the bigger picture. You're like, Okay, you know what, this does make sense whatever, And this is these people life. You know. They feed their kids off of this shit. They ain't feed it just off of me. So I

start learning like, oh, everybody do that. That's how y'all need to be dropping fucking ten number ones in one year. Oh So I'm like, okay, I do it. But it's never gonna be no situation where you just bring me some like a song like some ghost writer. Ass right, we gonna work together and we collaborate exactly so where I still have my authenticity to my song, know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna just say what you tell

me to say. Hell fuck yeah. I think like a lot of people don't realize, like when you get to a certain point, like it's a lot of collaborative efforts in the studio that are very organic it's not like you said. It's not like someone sends you a song and say, yo, just record this no like And I think a lot of times too, when you say writer, people think that's what it is, and that's not always what it is. Like Nigga, I did that might be

a melody, right, Yeah? I did a session with Pharrell and he's like giving me like I'm in a booth and he like to say this, say this like it don't always mean like I'm finna write it, and you say it like, it's not always that like ABC maybe even help like how you say it, like yeah, o god. Like then I started learning about what is that called? They just tell me vocal whatever the hell it's a name for that Perton you were in the studio for.

How was that crazy? What's in Miami? Yeah, he fucking don't. He fucking don't, but he doesn't and he cool. It's hell. Like I'm like, when they told me he wanted to work with me, I'm like, nigga, you're talking about Pharrell. It was like, yes, I'm thinking it's it's some new producer to call himself for real, some shit that's already for real shit. But it was fucking for real. I'm like, why he want to work with me? Chum? What it's like? Like when? Because Pharrell's is one of the goats, right

and we always hear about so intimidated. Yeah, he plays it. He's just going through beats and you're like, I like this one? He like which one you like? And you just like, nigga, anyone to fuck give me your throwaway. I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna make this shit work. It's gonna be anything he does. You see, have any work on the project? I think so? So Pharrell was on the album? I think so Yeah. I know some people who have been with him recently and he's been

lending some vocals to them. Is he did he lend you some vocals on the record on the bridge? Maybe? Like we did like five songs one that I'm choose, we still like we'nin five percent, you know what I'm saying. But the one that I'm pretty sure I'm gonna put on there that he's not on it. But there was ones that you guys cut that he was on. That's fire blest. What the hell like that sound crazy for me to to be saying right now, like what, yeah, what was there a can you tell us any other

producers maybe that have made the cut. I know you're not going to give me any features, so I'm not even gonna ask, but producers, maybe let's just say like I made it a point to, like, you know, how people be like focused on the features on the album. I made it a point to be like focused on the producers on Abduction. I want you to be like when you read my track list, you're like, oh, the features, and then you read the fucking track list and be like, oh,

the producers. You know what I'm saying. Not on some like just do whatever it's tip. I want you to be like, oh, this beach did her research. This beach, Oh, she and she from Atlanta. She using these niggs. You know what I'm saying. You don't see the thought process in a production. There was this discussion and I'm asking you this cause obviously for people who don't know your history, you kind of came up. You and Jermaine de pre will always kind of be related in some aspect, right,

always JD versus Diddy in a versus. So they was like, I can't no, it's never gonna It's never gonna happen. Yeah, but wasn't they on Live Like yes, But I was very much in the camp that JD could upset Diddy. Low key, I'm not saying it would happen. I can't even say nothing about it. It would be very Uh. I just feel like Daman, some people got to put some respect on JD's name because they forget Yeah, just go listen to Confessions. My gee, Oh that's it. That's it.

That's like you don't got to say it at the Confessions And yeah, there's so much other you know, what made so obviously you say you signed in twenty nineteen into twenty nineteen, What made you finally make that decision like to sign, because I'm sure everyone was trying to get at you for a very long time. You're building up and running it up Indian in Atlanta? What was people don't even be knowing? Like I did Bitch from the South Independent, I did Bitch from the South Remix Independent.

I already had putting them shits out Independent, so it's like I had everybody at my door. I think I just came to a point where it was like I feel like I've maxed the Independent route, Like I feel like my potential is bigger than this. I need a team and departments in this machine behind me working twenty four seven. Yeah, for sure. Someone to brush your hair

before an interview, you know, shit like that. Just shit's like and then like just different people working for you and working with you is like that, just open your mind to different stuff. Like I know, I probably wouldn't have tried a big energy two years ago, you know what I'm saying. So just like just people just inspiring you like, and just the roster on the label, like I looked at it as inspiration and just like leveling up. Yo.

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as well, because Trina is there. I know, I know, I know, but like it felt, it felt, it felt like up until a couple of years ago that like, for whatever reason, hip hop only had room for one pop and female at a time, And now I feel like we're in the greatest era of female artists in hip hop, where it's you, it's May, and it's Cash Doll,

it's Nikki, it's city girls. I mean, sweetie, we could just keep going down, right, Cardi B. How is it do you feel like it's still like like harder to be a female MC in today's climate, Because I do feel like there is always like people are gonna judge you harder for whatever reason. It might not be fair,

but they're always gonna judge you harder. It's hard to talk about that because it's like, yeah, it'll always be harder, but you don't want to like take for granted the progress that we have made, because for sure, you know, we got it a lot easier then I'm sure Kim and them, did you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I'm grateful for the progress, but it is still always harder, Like when we do these awards show performances, and we do it and then fucking little whoever young whoever do

it the same stage. Y'all ain't picking apart his performances. I ain't telling this nigga he need to put his lean cup down and run on the trademill, but y'all gonna be like she's shopping too much. She needs to be an artist development. Wait, like there's like you could be the biggest rapper in the world and have a lean gut and be sloppy as fucking late to everything and perform like shit and no one's gonna say anything if you're a female and you put it together an

amazing performance. But like you fuck up once or it just feels like every single thing it's under the microscope, like let us do something, But niggas do the ship all day, y'all. Don't be trying to cancel the ass or pick a part day performance ship. So, yeah, we do got it harder, but in the same sentence for where we've come, because you've kind of been on the come up throughout that whole era. Yeah so I didn't. Yeah for sure, Like I seen like it's easy to

catch one now like you can't. But that's male and female though it's easy to catch one. But yeah, TikTok's got everyone some of the shit on TikTok. I'm like, what is going on? Kids getting record deals and disappearing? God, what happened to the board in the house. Guy niggas gett what a little million dollar deals you never heard never hear from them a couple of months later. But that's that's also tricky too, because you can like get excited about it like that and chase that like the

TikTok wave and shit like that. But that ship not longevity. It's good records in real time. I feel like we think about who's been around forever. It's the the cream of the crop is always around, talent the fucking long route. Think about like the Mount wes Moore rap it's always been the last ten years. Is Cole's Kendrick and it's Drake and all three of them are murderers on the microphone, think about, well, you know, Megan is an amazing MC. I feel like I think Megan isn't with Megan pen Now,

Oh she's nice? What? Yeah, she's nice? What that bitch delivery? I ain't gonna lie. She wanted them? Who inspires you to get better as an MC? Not not even just females, just in general, like something like maybe someone you've heard recently. We're like, damn, that motherfucker's nice, Like I got I

gotta get on my ship. Shed these bitches like we gotta be with you, like you're not Finna had No turned up whack ass female rapper, Like if she turned up, that bitch talented because we so fucking analyzed Thojah Thojah killing shit. That bitch can rap sing pop ship performed. She she her perform I feel like her performing is like the I think she's the best performer I've seen in a long time. Fucking Chloe, what about just money? You don't have to be females? Like what has it

been anybody else? Like that just is just like inspired your panel little where you're like damn, Like I just heard this dude go in on this record and I'm like, I need to get my ship together or I fuck with Rod Wave. I feel like he made me want to be on some like authentic shit like yeah, talk about my life and shit like some shit that people feel because his music give me that like it's not

going nowhere, like this ship be there forever. Yeah, Like he got some ship that I'm gonna play for my kids and be like, hey, you don't know nothing about it. Saint Pete Florida's finest man the seven to seven. Yeah, I fuck with Rod Wave. I don't know. I'll be paying more attention to the females because that's my that's my line. I get it. You're getting ready for a big tour. Yeah, what should be fun? Yeah, this would be my first headline tour, first headlining tour. Uh. What's on?

Lotto's writer child? Pineapples, Hallopenyo, kettle chips, core water, a veggie tray and I and I had to take my manager too, and I told him I needed to update it before to two because I need to add strawberry pop tarts on their two strawberry pop tarts. I feel like, if you're eating any other kind of pop tart, I judge you. You ever go to the store with somebody and they grabbed the pop tarts with no frosty, Like, who, who the fuck are you? What kind of cereal killer

are my friends with eating? Eating no pop tarts or really nothing? They got them brown sugar or something like that. Them ship's bus too. Though. I tried a fruit Loops pop tart seven eleven. I just had to try it. That shit was terrible. You. I was like, yo, it could be gas fruit Loops. I was like, I like fruit loop cereal baby No, Yeah, I do like fruit loops. Oh I forgot hot fries are hot Cheetos flaming hot fries? Hell yeah, Chester's flaming. Not the the Andes thing though,

like the blue bag. There's a hot Cheeto shortage right now, so for real? Oh yeah, oh my household can't tell that pantry state. Yeah, you're yo. What's crazy is like the hot Cheeto fingers is a thing. You'll be sitting on the couch and then your hands are just fucking you ain't gonna laugh. I'm at home. I'm licking my fingers though, of course you got to. Yeah. Is there anything else with this tour that you're like nervous? Are you nervous about anything like hitting the road and everyone's

there to see you? Yeah, just because I feel like, you know, I got a top forty record. They like this can't be no bullshit, Like too many odds gonna be on me with this tour, like you know what I'm saying. So it's a little pressure, But you know, are you I don't know, I'll be praying and she'd just be working out. Are you taking the the after party bags and each of these? Yeah, so we gotta you know, everybody know home with that go look at the tour dates promoters put your offers in. Yeah, y,

she'll pull up. You know what I mean. It's probably it's got to be for the bag. But the bag and the costume goes in. The hookah. Oh the hookah? Yeah you know that hookahs fa the hoop. I forgot about that song. I swear to god, I said that too, because I was like, yeah, that's crazy, this nigga Ben was on the hookah ship. I probably wasn't even I was in like middle school maybe, so I wasn't even if I was singing the ship, I didn't know what he was saying. Anyways, What is it? Rather just I

always listen. I never understood the hookah thing because my thing is if I'm a smoke I'd rather just get high. No, because it's like, we don't want to be paranoid and ship. We ain't trying to be tripping. We just want something to dude. When you smoked, you get paranoid weed. Hell yeah, hookah, No you don't feel you know what I'm saying. When you smoke weed, you get paranoid Hell yeah, wow, I don't.

And and then I just don't like the action of smoking like it, just like i'd be confident, like how the fun do y'all do? I don't like that. I think a bug on me. Every two seconds, I'm jumping like the door like you might have had angel dust. No, no, every time I hit the blind, I'd be like that. You know what, though, I started doing like little, like if I'm in La, not just like doing like little, A little little bite of the edibles, and that shit helped me sleep. If you do too much, you're gonna

have the worst fucking day of life. Have you done too much edibles? In ninth grade? Oh? You was? That was some homemade Atlanta ship? Then oh what happened? Wait? Child? Because I had the worst day of my life and I overdosed on an edible? So what happened in ninth grade? In ninth grade, my friend had this damn lollipop edible and she just give it to me, and she didn't tell me, like, you know, don't eat the whole shit,

like it's a candy, like this is drugs. I just ate the whole thing and she was like, you ain't the whole thing. I'm like, nigga, you ain't tell me not to the fuck Anyways, fucking long story short, I'm tripping. I'm going to sleep waking up like I'm crying though, because I'm like, I don't know if I'm waking up in my dream or I'm waking up in real life like tripping. So I was like, bro, I'm fin of google how to come down from a high. I pull

up Safari on my phone. I had already googled that ship. Yeah, I say, yeah, no no. Also, like when you eat it, there's nothing you could do. All you got. You gotta let it just get through you. Nothing. What it was like take a cold shower. I did that. I was trying all this ship? Did you hallucinate it all? Because I hallucinated when I was I don't remember. I was tripping. I saw a Garfield. The cat he has has slot

machine eyes. I can't no, no, Ever since that day, I know we're gonna take this little bitty bite and yeah, it don't help you sleep. It don't help you sleep. Like my wife like she'll eat him to help, Like she'll like have like a because it helps you go to bed. Yes, for sure, that shit helps me sleep because I'll use like Middleton or some ship at home. But when I'm out here, I'll be like, oh, let

me never tried shrooms. Fuck, you know, Boozy just did shrooms for the first time and he was tripping balls in the snow. Boosy is probably so funny though, Oh god, it's great. What you think it would be? Oh yeah, the next time, the next time I interviewed Boozy, I'm like, dude, we're in each eighth of shrooms and just see where this takes us on YouTube. That nigga while sober, so I can only imagine what he's like. Yeah, No, I'm scared of all that stuff though, Like I'm telling you,

like I don't like to be out of out of body. Yeah, Like I don't like that, like even with alcohol, Like I don't like to be drunk, Like I'll get a little tipsy, you know. So I can feel it when I'm recording this ship. You know what's overrated in the Blue and White Bottle? You know what? I like that better?

I do like it better than the most overrated you That ship is overrated, And I'd be rapping about that ship too, but I take they were both hell yeah, and it's like I like better than all of that ship. The cheap ship. Yes, me too. When I go to the club and they're like, whatever bottle you want, I'm either they're like, bro, why don't you get who doesn't take It's okay. It's like it's more about like, hey, look, every time I've gotten drunk, like throw up drunk is

off of yes like rich people's patrona. It's like, not great. I'm so straight on that ship. Give me the cheap ship, like not too cheap? Nah, don Julio Blanco and Costa Migos is fire. I ain't gonna lie because I was on for a many and then I was like getting burnt on that and I'm getting back on the now. Did you did you know George Clooney owns Costagos the

actor what he's the owner? We're making George when you're rich, Hey man, have you had any opportunities to endorse any products or have your own like something like that, because I'm sure you've had hell opportunity lotto, let us give your own weed strain or hey, let's let's you want to you want your vodka. They're trying to do like the weed Strand ship. I just be like, it's two fake because I talk about how I don't smoke all day. It's like that's that's two fake. I would do like

an alcohol or something like that. I didn't did like swim wear, clothing collubs, Like did you ever do the fashion over deal? No, I'm with a pretty little thing, A pretty little thing, pretty little thing. Baby. They cuts the check. So pretty little Thing is a very big company. They got it. They got their own thing over on Melrow. I mean they're doing their thing, pretty little thing. He's doing the thing, so you're pretty So do you have your own collection with them? Yet? We supposed to be

doing that. I gotta finish this deal. If they don't give you your a pretty little Thing collection in the next six months, you better jump on over to fashion because they're gonna they're gonna give you. They're gonna give you the whole fucking thing. They're gonna be like a lot of spring collection. Oh and Savage X Fency waitit wait wait wait wait Savage Expency read you got you

got the fency popping? Yes, really Laingerie and I ain't gonna lie know that ship and like no kept like off the record, like this ain't even no like paid promotion, like no, that ship fire defeny, the quality ship, fire, the designs and she I'm like, is she doing this? She? I don't know whoever doing it? They should be fire, Like have you ever talked to no one but live? You're playing my song? What bitch from the South? I was like, were you a bitch from the South? Girl Frombados?

I feel like, she replied to the d M. If I d M her, i'd be so weird, Like I don't like like making people feel pressured, you know, like I don't know, I'm weird like that. Do you ever like we'll be backstage, not to cut you off, my bad, We'll be backstage and they'd be like, oh da back here, go say hey to no or I'm gonna run into them. If I run into them, it's organic. It happened, like I don't like to like do the whole like I don't know that just makes people feel weird because I know,

like I don't want people doing that. I respect that. How often do you check your DMS? Oh, I don't check my name. Your DM's got to be a dark place. Yeah, I don't check my DMS. I got a man, and I don't even mean like I mean obviously random dick pics I'm sure are coming. I'm flying through those. It's too weird because it'll be like from eight year old boys and shit, and it's like, y'all making me uncomfortable.

That's fucked up. Can you imagine not knowing what you're opening and then it's an eight year old dick, Like, like, y'all make me just want to delete the whole up? I would, Yeah, I'm off social media, yo. It's like when I went on Twitter once and I saw Tiger's dick on accident, I was like, bro, I did not sign up to see Tiger's dick. Social media in general, it's just a lot of times I have to like check out and like just do something normal because God

will get consumed and it's like virtual reality bullshit. Is it nice to be in a relationship when you're going through the stuff you're going through in your career, so you kind of have like a safe place? Yes, Oh my god, Oh my god, Like that's my fucking safe zone. That's my sanity for real. Like that's when I can come home from the studio crying and just overwhelmed with everything and I just saw aer old dick. Help me, hold me that's dope. No, because I mean, I'm married

and it's the same thing. I think, like a strong relationship is very important, like it's you know, if it's a strong if it's toxic, it could also get you fucked up because that shit can just be too much. Like I didn't been in a toxic relationship where it's just does nothing for you. Now this is that shit like this the one so I know what it feel like to have that like safe space. You and your man? What shows do you binge watch at home? No? We

Binge watched Snowfall. We was late to the party, so yeah, don't play with Frankly eight. Season five's coming. We was just talking about car it's five because I think we Binge watched one through four. Yeah, so fucking good. Let me ask you this is a serious question. You and I have both watched the show so good watching the show, did you think, even for a split second, I'd like

to try crack because it looks fire? No? I no, not when you see No, I saw when I saw Franklin Saint's girlfriend smoke crack and she looked like she was like having the time of her life. In one episode, Franklin Saint's girlfriend. Flush your whole fucking life down at toilet, That's what I'm saying. And Wanda the other girls almost but Franklin frank when the cops daughter hit the crack pipe, yea, and her it was one episode long and her whole ship. I ain't gonna lie. I'm ready for that ship to

come back because you bring your back memories. I forgot about her daddy being a cop, and yeah, I was like, damn, the cops start smoke crack once and just it was over. I'm like, that ship gotta be crazy. I don't. I'm just what kids. No, No, I'm not saying, I'm considering, and I'm saying. For a split second, I thought to myself, he cracks gotta be fire. Let's be honest. Like I mean, I'm not saying I get you. You see what I'm saying.

You saying like, if you know what it's gonna do to you, and you like you will, You're willing to sell your car and your jewelry your grandma gave you dead and disappoint your police, your policeman father. You know what is it? You know it's crazy. Well, look that's how we're gonna end the interview on crack No wait wait, no, we cannot know talk about something else. Listen to The

song is out and it's going crazy. The album is coming soon, yeah, pretty soon, really soon, really like when I say nine, gonna be bumping your ship bye March madness, maybe a little top top of them. I'm just thinking, Yah, I can't think I'm gonna go on tour without dropping the album once. A tour start March nineteenth, So there's gonna be an album before March nineteenth. Ladies and gentlemen, Dojia Cat's gonna be on the big Energy remix and and hopefully we get Beyonce on there too. Hey bab,

we're gonna shoot for the stars. Let's start. We gotta put it out. Beyonce on the fuck that man, Beyonce gonna put you on her album? Oh what it just got fucking deep ink say what uh? The tour starts March nineteenth. Yeah, any new freestyles are in the coming. Yeah. Super Gremlin was nice. And you were early on that too, because now it's like the record. You know what how early I was because I was telling my A and RS I was like, I need to drop a freestyle.

Before the end of the year, just to like hold over whatever. And I was like, I was stuck between the Super Grimlin and this other song, and I was like, should I just do this song because the super Grillain. I don't even know if people gonna know, Like I don't want them to think this my song type shit, you know what I'm saying, because it was still like bubbling, and they was like, nah, by the time you drop it,

you're gonna be ahead of it. Like they literally called everything that's happening right now like it was like, you're gonna drop it, You're gonna be ahead of it, and it's gonna blow up right at the same time, it's gonna be perfect. Kodak reached out to be like yo, good job or thank you for Yeah, we got a song together. He was just like you know what, honey, Like he's a very interesting guy. Yeah, he's crazy. It's an enigma. He crazy, you know, Yeah, he crazy. I

feel like he's like, yeah, he's Kodak Black. It's one of one. Yeah he crazy. Yeah, shout out to Kodak. Something that floata water. It's in that floor. I lived in. Florida is a wild place. It is you know, I love First forty eight, and it seemed like that shit always in Florida. It also seems like everything that ever

happens it's embarrassing is in Florida. Yes, like Wendy's employee reverse drive by shoots their boss while getting a frosty and then crashes into a McDonald's across the street while cooking meth in their back seat in Florida. Saint Petersburg, Florida. You gotta love the Florida, but Noel, It's county sheriff reports. What EO, You've gotten a lot of bags in Florida, right, Yeah,

I ain't gonna lie. I love Florida, especially I mean it's gonna sound like very touristy, but especially Miami, Like Miami's in the city. What I love Miami. What's been the Because Florida's like its own country. So like, depending on what part of Florida you go to, there's like Miami, and then there's like teethless redneck like crazy Florida, and then there's like the hoods in Florida are different because they're like country. So you might go to like Palmetto,

Florida and it's it's wild. Yeah, Florida's wild. And I'm sure you've been up and you've gotten bags in a lot of those. Oh yeah, I didn't did a lot of Florida clubs. I didn't did the fucking what's that ratchet ass strip club in Miami? Which one G five? I did G five before it's another one. Booby trapped. The office, Oh the office. The office is and it's small in there, small, tiny, dangerous. They were definitely violating

a lot of codes in there. So fun though. Oh yeah, the officers a Vibe appreciate you pulling up a lot of the tour and the album come in March nine. Yeah, do you have the name of the album? I have it, but we don't, well, don't have it soon enough? Is the artwork already shot? The covers already? I mean no, but I was when I was in the car here I'm looking at the treatments. All right, there it is.

I'm sure follow up single coming, of course, all right, of course, be on the lookout soon and so sooner than soon. Lotto, Yeah, there it is. The biggies