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What up? keV? How are you feeling? Wrong? To see you? Man? Good to be here. I was just telling uh Dwight the story about the time I, uh me and head went to the Kanye event. Yep. We ran into you at the bus little bus where you had to catch a bus in Hollywood, yep, yep, And you were by yourself, Del and you had just moved out to LA a day or two before, like I think we you were you had come on the show before that, but it was like you were like just like enjoying the LA ship,

like you know what I'm saying. We ran new it was the kids see Ghosts kits ghost and we took a bus there and like, yeah, it was it was pretty crazy. That was a crazy last night. Yeah, it was a vibe and I think I tweeted you were signing the waiver and it said good music on it. Yeah, I took a picture of you, said oh yeah, yeah, yeah, signed a good music. That was a real thing. That was a real thing. That was a real thing. People thought I was signed a good music. Yeah. So what's

up man? How's first of all, congrats because the album is incredible. Thank you, bro. That mean the world to me. Appreciate that. That's it, you know, as dope as the first project was, I feel like you leveled up with this one. I feel like it was more cohesive. It feels just more personal, like, thank you, bro, thank you. That means the world. Appreciate that for real. It took your time, Yeah, I did, you know. I feel like you could have followed up, you know, within a year

with the way the last album went. But yeah, I feel like you really took your time with this project. Obviously you gave us, I ad Epe gave us some taste, but like what was for you, Like was that on purpose to like really not rush the sophomore album? Yeah? Now, it was a string of things. One, you know, this pandemic right, I'm really a touring artist, like I make music to perform it. And two is like I always wanted to sort of set myself up to where I

have an expectation of taking my time with albums. Not an expectation, but it's just patient myself career wise, career wise. Excuse me. I know I could always deliver high quality album every two years. You know, if I would have dropped the album in twenty twenty, like back to back, right after Lost Boy, it wouldn't have been good, you know, in my opinion, it wouldn't have been at the level

to where I needed it to be. And so I just really I had to live a bunch of life honestly, to talk about some new things, you know, and go through some shit in order to express that into music. And yeah, it wasn't a purpose. It's funny though, the day that Lost Boy came out, I remember I was like, yeah, it's probably gonna be like another two years before I

drop another album. I'm like, nigga, what And I'm like, all, you're gonna see but and but it's not like I'm just sitting there for six months and then I'm like, Okay, I got a year and a half left. Let's get it done, like I'm working every all time, Yeah, the whole time. But I just didn't want to rush shit and just put some shit out just to put some

shit out, just to feed the algorithm. You know, I just want it cause I know I would look back, like twenty years from now, ten, fifteen years from now, however long it may be, and be like, I'm so glad that I took my time with this album, Versus I'll regret it more if I just rushed and put out an album Versus now I took this time out, all this time and creating and cultivating this album and putting all the energy, all my effort into it versus just throwing some shit out, rushing it out just to

put it out. Plus, if we think of like the all time greats, right we're thinking like Kendrick, we think of a lot of these guys nahs, like, you know, they took their time from it. I mean, these guys take their time, Like, for sure, Hole's not dropping every twelve months, you know what I'm saying. For sure, Yeah, it's a couple. Everybody got their own path. J for a while, he covers every year every summer. Jay Z. When I was a kid. But you know, yeah, jay

Z's the greatest of all time. For Shure, everybody got their own path. And it's not like I'm looking at like a Kendrick blueprint or like, Okay, Kendrick dropped three years in between his first and second now or two years between. It's freaking seven out. So I got it. It's just what naturally how I progress. Like I recorded hundreds and hundreds of songs, but I knew what I wanted to say, what point I wanted to get across, And I just wanted to make a complete, cohesive body

of work. And I knew I just wanted to take my time, not with like actually creating, but with just finishing everything up. No, I feel like over the last couple of years, we've seen you in the studio with so many people, yeah, where it's like, oh shit, oh shit, he's in with oh man, Like how much music did not? Like you said you recorded hundreds of songs, Like, yeah, how tough was it? Because twelve Like obviously there are

songs that are already out. Yeah, like when you put when you when the album came out, you said, press play from one to twelve consecutively. Yeah, that's how I want you to listen to the album for sure. How hard was it to keep it so tight, because you know, it could have been twenty songs it could have been you know, for sure, not as hard as you think, because every song that's on the album, as soon as I recorded it, I knew it made me feel a certain way. I was like, yeah, I really like this one.

It was two songs that I left off the album that I really three songs that I really really enjoyed. I don't know if I'm going to deluxe some or just wait and saving for a whole new like body of work or a whole new idea, just put it out there, whatever, but it was three songs that I left out that I really like loved. But at one point in time, every single song that's on the album was like my favorite song that I made at the time, if that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, And it

just they just happened to fit together. It's do that you have to be put Freddy on the album because you guys also did the record with NAS for Spotify? What's that for Spotify? Life is like it was for Spotify? Life is like a dice game, right, I'm super you know what's crazy. I was really hoping you and Benny would have worked together put you guys on the text like yeah, but yeah yeah rock with Bro have to get you and Freddie you know, to have him on

the record. How how was that, Like, how did you guys relationship kind of grow from maybe that life is like a dice game to you know, him hopping on that joint. Uh. To be honest, like, I don't like to say things are more than what they are, you know what I'm saying. Freddy just it's always just been a mutual respect as fellow artists and peers, and whenever we see each other, it's just love and respect, you know.

And he seems like from you know, my interactions with him, which haven't been like too many, but he seemed like a stand up guy, you know what I'm saying. And even more than that, I just knew his vocal tone on Champagne Glasses would have sounded like really good, and it did. For sure. He did. He delivered. He definitely delivered on the album you talk of about you got your Pops pressure Washer Van Yeah, yeah, which which is dope, by the way, So explain that. So your your dad,

you set him up with a business. You hooked him up with a little small business like tool. Yeah. Yeah, he already had his business like going, and he didn't and you know, he didn't like call me and asked me anything. It's just something I wanted to sow a seed into his business, you know. And but it's just

small things like that, that's just that makes me. That makes what I do worthwhile to me to where I'm able to just like, Okay, let me just sow a seed in this business right here, invest more so like invest into it, you know. And it's a dope thing. Yeah, I mean, like I feel like family's obviously very important to you. It's been a big theme of both your projects. On Mama's Hood, you talk about your boy who you lost. Yeah,

for sure. I was just on the phone with his mom too, literally yesterday, Juwan Ross, I was on the phone with his mom and my bad. I was just thinking out loud, you know, but I was just saying like that that was like a kind of a crazy verse. Yeah. I feel like there's so many people who probably have been in that position where they got a friend who like, you know, they like you know, did you like it felt like you had some sort of guilt, Like, yeah,

for sure, survival's guilt. Yeah, I think that's a real thing, and I think a lot of people go through that. So to hear you talk about it and I don't I don't think like people might have expected that from you, because I think we look at you it's kind of like, you know, like a not a street rapper. Yeah for sure. Like to know that one of your best friends got into a shootout and passed away, and like, yeah, that made you feel it was like, you know, a pretty

vulnerable moment on the album. Was that something that like happened and you knew right away, I gotta I gotta make sure I share this with the world. It's it was a kind of like therapy. Noah, it wasn't. More so I got to share it with the world. It just happened. I wrote that song the week, you know, I found out he got killed, and U, this is somebody I'm with every day in high school. We played basketball together. Even when I go to college. You used to always come up and visit me, and you know,

and all of these things. So when he got killed, man, I just felt like guilty, Like, man, I could have saved him, like I single handedly. I felt like, man, I might as well have pulled the trigger because I could have just saved him, you know. And when that beat came on, it just gave me like those vibes.

And I say that to say that it's unfortunate that it takes, you know, like I said, a lot of my music, it's a real life experience just transmuted into emotions and musical form, and unfortunately, sometimes it's something as tragic as that sparks a song, you know, and yeah, it's a crazy thing, man, It's an unfortunate part of life. Like I lost a lot of people that I grew up with. Rest in peace, a little Tony, Rest in peace, Fly Brandon and one of my friends got killed in

middle school. Brandon Tony got killed right after we graduated, Juan. And it's just so many people I grew up with, you know, that I'm with day to day. We live in the same neighborhood, this and that, and I'm like, be a day later, I'm like, Damn, were just walking

home from school together. They get killed, you know, And so it just really been bugging me because it's something that I've gotten used to, you know, people that I'm with every day and going to school with getting either killed prematurely before they're eighteen years old in some cases,

or getting locked up for a super long time. And it's something I've like grown accustomed to, it used to to where like I may not even shed a tear, you know, And it's not because I'm not empathetic or I love him, I'll miss him, but because I'm just so used to the shit, and I'm thinking it's normalized to me. So I'm thinking it's normal. When I'm talking to other people about they like, nah, you get desensitized. Yeah, exactly.

I mean keeping it with your homies, like talk about how the intro and your boy Shiloh being part of the album, how that like like kind of give people the background on who Shiloh is, and yeah, you know he's got the interlude and the Yeah, yeah, so shatout. That's my brother. Like we we from and we're not blood, but we always was with each other since day one. So we always used to tell everybody who was brothers.

We was both like light skin or whatever, So this is like my brother and he was rapping as well, like before I was not before I was but at the same time, but he was popping before I was, and me seeing him like that close, but he was still like super heavy in the street shit, you know. And so me seeing him like glowing up in his way just on some straight street. Buzz On didn't have no manager, didn't I was his manager at one point

in time. Yeah, Yeah, I was managing him because I just knew, like, Okay, I know how to upload shit to like a tune corde, I know how to monetize it, just the regular basic shit, small shit. And so me seeing him go up that kind of a lot of times, it just takes you seeing things, especially up close, to understand that you can attain the same sort of things

even to a higher level. And us growing up together and him getting locked up for twenty five twenty four years, to be exact, for a murder, that's something that that messed up with me psychologically because I end up blowing up or getting on the scene or so the year after he gets locked up. So I'm like, damn, if I was able to, if I was at where I'm at now, he might be in a whole different situation,

you know. But that's why I thought it was very important to highlight where he's at, you know, on the intro and in the loud as well, that's dope. I was just on the phone with a matter of fact when I came in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's dope. So when he like, yeah, I mean, how long is he gonna be? Is he got a while? Or yeah

he got twenty four years? Shit? But we're working right now, working with a bunch of he got a team of lawyers, and I'm working with Robert Rooks from Reform and a couple other guys to really put all the resources that we have now and able to in order to get him out, as well as my dog Mac, his cole defender, who got thirty years, another one of my dogs. So this is just just trying to utilize this access to relationships I have to be able to help, especially so

close to hime. Do you with with what you know? I feel like a lot of people during the pandemic, during kind of what happened like in June of twenty twenty, like, I feel like there was a lot of I feel like there was a lot of fake wokeness, sure, a lot of predatory you know, people were doing a lot of posting and a lot of shit just for to make themselves feel good. Sure it was very trendy. Absolutely, No, that's one hundred percent all day. But you obviously ended

up getting arrested. I think my song was there, Yeah, Yeah, was Trade there? Yeah? Yeah, Trade the Truth? Yeah. What is your take on that? Man? Because I do feel like we see it now right, Like there's hell of shit that's still going on in the world, but it's not as trendy it was because it's not as trendy for sure. You'll see like a lot of artists like that, like you were like, oh, a lot of people for

that matter, Like like like, what is your thought on that? Like, you know, because as somebody who like really sacrificed their freedom, yeah, to you know, push against injustice. You know, does it kind of make you feel a certain type of way when you when you kind of notice it's like there's a lot of bullshit going on too. You know, at first I did, because again, this is something I've been doing since I was like a kid, and you know, I'm far from an activist. I don't have all the answers.

I'm not perfect, but I was going to you know, Filando Castill protests as a kid Mike Brown and as a teenager on my own free will. And the only difference now is actually have a platform. And I actually got a felony from getting arrested that day, Like I just got that removed, Like off my I couldn't even like travel overseas or anything because I had a felony. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't. And so I just got to remove, thank God.

And so I say all that to say, at first, I used to get mad because I see a lot of people just doing it because it's trendy and you know. But I was like, you know, especially artists. You know what the term that I use for it was. I forgot the term I had for it, but I can't remember off the top of the head. But I can't really I forgot the term. I can't remember off AnyWho.

But at first I used to get real mad at like, you know, all the fake actors, activism, the fake wokeness whatever, especially from entertainers and things that nature, because I know they're doing it for their own internal benefits so that people can be like, oh, yeah, you're a real one, you really. But then I thought about it, even if they intentions aren't pure and coming from a real and pure place, at least they are getting the message out there the people that need to see it to that.

That's it. Even if you know, like even if you're the biggest person on the planet and you don't really believe in the cause and you're just doing it from an impure place, well, at least you're you're showcasing the problems that we got going on in the world in general to your platform to where people may be educated on it want to do something about it. So I don't get add at it, honestly no more. I used to.

And you know, it's a James Baldwin quote. To be black in America and just somewhat aware of what's going on is to be enraged all the time. And I try to stay aware of everything, but I try not to let everything get me super enraged, if that makes sense. If you really, like, if you really pay attention to everything, that you're going to be mad all the time. It's gonna penetrate your peace, No, it is for sure, and

it does. Like it's hard, especially it's again survivors remorse, as in even you know, with just my immediate circle, but just with the whole community as a whole. You know, you want to do everything and give as much as you can possibly to everybody, but it may not even be possible. You know. On the project you talk a bit about like signing like young, and you know, I feel like you're one of the more smarter young artists we have as far as I feel like you're very

self aware. Yeah, started on label high level. What you got on your shirt right there. Appreciate you. I gotta get you some gears. Well, you know, when you're a kid like you, who I mean, when did you sign

officially our eighteen seventeen? I believe so like nineteen. I'm assuming that, like you know, you probably have learned a lot since then, for sure our business, maybe about your own contract, and I'm sure like with your own label, Like what are the things that you're applying to, like being a CEO, having a label, having an imprint that you've learned from your own path to you know, being on a major label as a as a young unproven artist.

Now for sure, just freedom, creative freedom obviously it goes without saying, right, allow our artists to control their own destiny, you know, and given whatever knowledge we may have or not that we may have that me and the team have through our you know, years of experience to the industry, because like, I'm not ever going to say here and pretend like I got all the answers and I know everything, but I will give the information and knowledge that I

have and utilize even more than that, the resources, the relationships, the roller decks that we've been able to build through operating at the level we've been operating that and used that to build artists. We have our own team of in house creatives, in house videoographers, photographers, creative directors, management, in house A and r's just and everything we want to utilize just to build you know, not just artists, producers, creatives in any multifascets. Yeah, do you have a Have

you signed your first artist yet? Uh? No, we haven't. No, no noes are actively looking. Man, I'm looking like crazy, like I can't wait to go on the road for people to come up to me and wrap and pitch that stuff because I don't want to. It was a couple of artists that I was like very close to signing, but I was kind of getting anxious, if you will, I just wanted to sign somebody just to sign somebody, but it would be a disservice to them. Just breathe,

take your time. It's no rush, it's no rush. The right person will come to you. Yeah. It's always works out that way. It always works out that way. One hundred you you're one of the few guys in your generation that's got two songs with Eminem. Yeah, shout out to Eminem killed the remix on the album Thank You killed his remix. Yeah. Either way, I'd like to point out your manager is a crazy person. He tried to tell me Eminem is one of the biggest club artists

of all time. Club artists, he said, he said, club Ace, your man's burnt out. He's right in there. Yea burn that's burn the clubs you be going to, Yeah, that's crazy. That's not shout out to Eminem, you know. Yeah, yeah, he he does stadiums, you know, and you're not listening to the club I say off to say, well that a con record, Yeah, that one that I mean, Yeah, yeah, the Nate Doug Shake. But these are also like still getting played now. But like you know in like you know,

bars and ship. But yeah, yeah, for sure, another story. Nice little slight to ace. Yeah, yeah, that's he burned. But eminem As obviously put his arm around you. Man, he's obviously a fan of what you're doing, Like talk about your guys' relationship and has he given you any

advice or Yeah. So right before I did the Killer remixed for him and we had like an hour and a half conversation about just life, about music, hip hop, all different types of things, and you know, just he's always been showing me genuine love and support very early on. And you know, I appreciate all love and public support I get because it's not like, you know, I'm signed to him, you know, so he doesn't have to do that. I don't ever feel entitled for anybody to show me

any love. So whatever genuine love and support I get publicly from any from fellow peers, fellow artists, DJ's such as yourself and your platform as well, whatever love I get, I really appreciate that. And I say that to say he was just showing me a lot of love publicly, and we had a dope conversation and he was just like, man, we just got to get some work in whatever I seen you something, and yeah, we gotta get something in and I'm like beat and so we probably had that

convo like June twenty twenty wow. And I didn't send him the record for him to get on until like February twenty twenty one, and because I was just like I was trying to find a song for him. But I was like, Yo, this is eminem bro. It's been like ten months since like he told me he got me with a record. I'm like, let me just fucking get this shit, you know, like and no waste that opportunity. And so I knew Parables was the one automatically because

his vocal tone fits that's slim shady all day. His vocal tone fits that perfectly, and he has a dope thing. Honestly, So were you intimidated to get on that remix? Like did you like like did you did you write harder? Does that make sense? Like? Nah? Nah? Honestly, m M

he Oh you know what I did? I did my first verse for Killer Remix, right, I sent it over to him am and I did it and it was more on some like three stacks he forty type of and then him called, he was like, y'all, I wanted you to be like a little more like lyrical like on some rap rap shit on it, and I'm like, all right, cool, like whatever. So I he had me like redo my verse on some more rap because at first I just wanted to because you know, that song

is more like a rap rap rapord. It's more of like a vibe sort of thing, and so that's why I gave that. He was like, I want you to you know, like attack it. You know. So I'm like, all right, cool, let's try that. If I'm goin ask you to redo your verse, redo your verse for sure, one hundred man, if anybody you know on they song, I haven't. I haven't ever been asked that before, but if anybody asked me to redo it, because I asked people to redo their verses all the time for my

song for my album. Not all the time, but I will in a heartbeat anyone on this album that you said, hey, can you do something different? No, actually everybody was one and done with this, but I've done it before, like like, okay, I like this one because I just always want to paint the best picture. Whenever you add an artist to your song, where you get added to another artist song, they already got the camvus it's like what color palette you want to add to this, you know, and vice versa.

Do you feel the burden of like being like the young Like I feel like when you came out and that slim shady freestyle came out, and yeah, I feel like you were like a much needed breath of fresh air in the climate that was twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, because when was that? I was a twenty nineteen eighteen twenty eighteen. So I feel like you kind of like infused like some fresh air that was needed in a real in my opinion, one of the worst fucking errors

of music was like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. Yeah, for sure. But do you feel the burden of being like the chosen One, the golden Child? If you will, because I feel like that's kind of like what I think A lot of people look at you like that, like you're from a younger, younger generation, one of the only people who are really pushing like bars and pushing like you know, I think a lot of just quality and real you know what I mean? Do you feel that not really?

To be honest, I always just wanted to be I just want to be me, like honestly, And it's not like I appreciate whatever, but are you aware that people look at you that way? I try not to think about it too much, you know, because I don't want to go in the studio with that approach, like, oh, I got to be the save you save this s to keep this ship. They're like, Nah, that's not it.

I just go in and create music. I just want to make good music, man like at a high level, and I value good music and good songs over just like trying to bar bar bar bar bar rap rap rap. You know, we always gonna I love this hip hop show, we always gonna get the raps off. But I'm just trying to make good music. And I say that to say I have my own expectations. I try not to live into or fit into anybody else's expectations because that's

not what's going to make me happy. What's gonna make me happy is being the best person, the best artist that I can be. What was the bigger deal for you a Wayne feature or an m feature? Hmm, because they're both goats for sure. I don't know. They both were like huge for me at the time, especially when I did the Wayne video, Like a lot of times. Man, My my new word for this year, past six months is just gratitude, just living in the moment more and

just infinite gratitude. Because before it would just be like I do some crazy dope shit. I'll be like, Okay, what's next, Let's keep it going tunnel vision. Sometimes you get wrapped up in like just the work that you don't even realize what you're doing. Yeah. I always tell people sometimes you got to stop and say, Man, if you talk to yourself five years ago, he'll be like like,

what the fuck. Nah. For sure, it's a balance because you can't take that and get complacent and smell your own hot horse too much, like man, I'm shit, I'm not, you know, but you got to appreciate it absolutely. And so one of those moments was I was at the the Wayne video shooting. We were shooting sinister shout out, shout out, hit boyfriend the video goat right now, yah yeah, yeah, he been doing that joint boy, And so I'm looking at the video and I'm like, oh, wow, Like that's Wayne,

that's Wayne, bro. That's that was the biggest thing for this is weezy. This is arguably you can argue the best rapper whatever, like his his that eight run like Carter three, no ceilings. I mean we can go with card two. We can go on for days about this man catalog and his impact and influences. He got too many sons, Yo, stop of the interview. Got to tell you about our good folks at odd Socks. Man. Listen, Go to odd socksofficial dot com. Use the promo code

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couldn't get it turned in on time. Yeah, that was really close to happening. Not really, man, Everybody who I

wanted on the album is ended up on there. You know, because as soon as I make us, even like chronicles, as soon as I make a song, I'll be like because most of the time I try not to put features because it's like, when it's features, you gotta if you want to shoot a video, you gotta work around everybody's schedule things of that nation multiple yeah, exactly, and so, but every song that has a feature, as soon as I made that song, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna

get this person on it. As soon as I made today, I'm like, I'm getting gunned on this joint. And these just all happen to be people I got genuine relationship ships with. So it's not like I'm paying for any feature. By the way, it's just straight swaps you know, all of the features on the album, you didn't have to pay for it, didn't have to pay it down for straight swaps respect. So it's like, hey, Lna, I got

you when you need a feature, Yeah for sure. It's love because I feel like if it's just a money play for somebody, like I don't even charge anybody for features. Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like, if you're doing a feature, its because you're genuinely fuck with the artists. Yeah for sure.

And so I say all that to say that, and these are people I'm actually like close with and like have like genuine relationships with for the most part, and so like Gunn, as soon as I made Today, I'm like, Gunna, this is the one we made that join in Australia. As soon as I made Chronicles, I don't know why, I was like I got to get her and Dirk on this. You know, those are both people I'm cool with,

like mad cool with every single song. You know, With Stevie Wonder, I ended up cooking with him for like a week before I got him to do Harmonica. Yeah. When you say you were cooking with Stevie Wonder for a week, Yeah, that's crazy. So you're in this like I'm in the studio with him in person, hanging out with Stevie, hanging out with getting the gym, studio, getting the gym, the real gems, the real knowledge. They don't

make them like him anymow. This is Michael. His stories that he got about like your icon's icon, you know, like it's just the most unimaginable thing man Like for he talks about like Obama pulling up on him at the studio like before he was president. You know, like his story is just different. Bro, No, he's talking about Little Mike, you know, like, yeah, I remember one time I was in there with Bro, what what was the

Little Mike's story? It wasn't. He just brings up like small like things like like he's Michael Jackson's big homie. That's so crazy. You gotta think that this is Michael Jackson's big homie and now he's your big homie. Good company? Hergo connection? Was he like just a fan of yours?

Like like that's a you know what's crazy because I've seen Stevie Wonder pop out before, I want to say, at a Anderson Pact show, Oh do, but he's out like you I've seen Stevie Wonder three or four times like a random ship, and I'd just be like, yeah, he lived life, brother, he's living He lived a good life. But he just was up on like like how did

that happen? Like so somebody from his team reached out to somebody on my team to Dallas, I believe, shout out Dallas and they was like, yo, like Stevie want to like lock in with Corda And I was like, what Dondal Dundale. So I pulled up on him and we just started out. He had me work on the record for his and Blase Bla, so we're working on this can't put in the hands of Faith. We're working on his record, and like day two or three, he's like, Yo, if you want me something on your album, then I

got you. And I'm like I had my laptop and my hard drive with me like say less, I was like, yo, can I get you to play harmonica on this? Because I like using people's like almost if you know Steve, you want to you know him playing harmonica isn't a hidden talent, but to like the average just music person, they may not know him playing harmonica. Same with like j Cole gave him to produce on him to make

a beat. You know, like I like using people's hitting talents and and and highlighting him and so I say that to say, yeah, just locking in with him, like it's crazy, Like he just matter of fact he called me to day the album drop. He facetimed me and yeah, I'm not even trying to speak in my truth. May speaking my truth. It's an interesting way for Stevie Wonder to call somebody his FaceTime. He uses it pretty adept. I didn't believe he was blind when I first met him.

I feel like when you he's been as blind as he's been, like as long he's just been for sure, he knows how to move. Yeah, for sure, he's definitely blind by the way, but he's like super It's not a crutch for him. It's just like Daredevil kind of like on Netflix. You're like, this guy is not blind, Like, yeah, no, he's just he's been blind for he's seventy years. I don't know when he went blind, but he's been blind for a long time. It probably also helps that he

was once not blind. And he's a rich blond man rich blind like super rich. If you're gonna be blind. You gotta be rich blind. So it's like it's so much probably like in mind you this is just like me inferring, me guessing. It's probably like so much technology he has like access to to make him being blind like super easy because he's just like filthy rich, you know, so for real. So shout out to Stevie Wooder. You I saw you allude that you you have an unreleased

Juice WRLD song. Yeah I do, yeah you obviously I remember when that tour happened. Yeah, it was like super early on, super early on. I feel like you didn't even I don't even know if the WHITEBN mixtape was out yet. No it wasn't. It sure wasn't. And it's like all I had was three songs, all short, and two of them was damn freestyles, you know yeah, and

that whole set was unreleased. But man, that was like it's some real historical ship because just looking just at my what I've done or just that's something all gonna be able to tell my kids, Like mam, my first time ever tour was on I was Torn with Juice World and Juice This is his first tour too, So this is both of all first time first, like being that motherfucker like that was the first tour ever. Yeah, it happened fast for him for sure. That was first

tour ever. So it was clever on that tour. No, he wasn't clever. It was me Juice World and Little Mosey. Wow. And I'll just be looking back even at like the Marquis like Juice World cord under it, you know what I'm saying. And so I say that to say, yeah, we do. We definitely got to unreleased in a song that you are interested in even releasing or in the future probably you know. I never wanted like when he came out. It wasn't like, man, I gotta put this

funny enough. Man. Our last text between each other was like about the song, you know. And I say all that to say that, you know, when he passed, it wasn't like it's not something I want to capitalize on and drop this record because I know it's going to be it's gonna go up. Yeah. Yeah, one is a great song, by the way. Two it's on some rap ship. But I never wanted to like capitalize off of friend's death. So if it never comes out, like, I'm cool with that.

He's yeah, he's rapping, like trying to tell people like Juice WRLD was like one of the nicest still ill like crazy. He chose to be like a fucking dude the super hits like Gollly like Male off the Dome we be Like. I remember when he came in freestyle for me in head, I was just like floored. I was like Jesus Christ, like this guy's you gotta tell him to stop. He's a savant. You gotta tell him

to stop because you gonna keep going. But like I said, it's just something that's more so like for my memories and for the archives, and you know, God willing if you know obviously when when it comes to postmis releasing music whenever that time comes from. So why did you said that that word right? Because I don't know how to say it. Every time I read it, I don't know if I said it coactly postmiss. Yeah, I don't know how to. I honestly might have mispronounced it. Who knows. Yeah,

the comments let us we'll find out later. But yeah, it's never something I want to be like I'm gonna just release this. It might come out years from now, I might not ever come out. You know, I'm just always it's something that's the sacred to me, more than anything more than JOHNA just you know, capitalize off of friends. You are a part of like a generation of artists where your peers are dying, are dying for sure at like a rate that we've never seen in hip hop?

Is this more than like that ninety six ninety eight era? Right? Yeah, for sure, it's not even close. Yeah, it's not even close. No, for sure, Like does that like you know, I mean I always tell like I have some close friends that I you know, I'll just be like, yo, you gotta chill cause like I don't want to wake up one day and like you're out of town and you get shot or something like, yeah, it's fucked up. It's a

wild time. Like and I feel like you're like I, like I said, like you're kind of one of the bright lights in our culture where it's like you're not promoting certain things, You're you're not in the lot of bullshit, you're not stirring up shit on the internet, you're not talking about drug use shit like that. But like, like is it like you know, these are your peers, these are people you know, these are people who you've seen at parties, Like yeah, for sure. It's sad because nobody

can relate to you like other artists can. We all are our peers, like you said, we all appears and coworkers in this ecosystem of music, and so to see people that you're on like early shows we've done early towards, whether you've seen them at festivals or you know, Juice World was the only one I was like really like genuine close with in a real real way, like really

my like one of my closest friends. But just seeing you know, like the Doph situation that broke my heart and how many other set I can't even think of everybody at the top of my head, you know, crazy, it's crazy. Yeah, It's like it feels like once every like sixty days, it's like, what the fuck, what is happening? It's a wild time, man, that's ridiculous. So there is going to be a Deluxe possibly possibly, I don't know everybody the Deluxe these days. Yeah, yeah, you know what's funny,

I don't know. I was going to do a Lost Boy Deluxe like way way like when it first dropped before everybody, Well, I can't even say, because people have been doing deluxes for thirty five years. But I think UZI kind of kicked off this new deluxe. Yeah, yeah, for sure, it definitely did one hundred percent. And I don't know, man, I kind of just like letting the idea and the project just be an idea and what it is as a complete body of work and just

going into something new. But I'm not sure, honestly, I don't know. You've had a lot of big moments in your career. You've been on records with the big people, You've performed all the awards. I mean, you've had some huge moments. What was the one moment that you can reflect on that you felt either the most nervous or where you really had to like kind of pinch yourself like, shit, this is actually about to happen, or this is happening.

You know what? Man? It was probably the day I got the Best Rap Album Grammy nomination, like Dad was in and I can't wait to win them things in the future, Like you know, nominations are great infinite gratitude, but I'm gonna win them things. And were you nominated alongside it was me? Tyler the Creator? Yeah, ego won it. Yep, I wasn't. I think he should have won Album of a Year, like you know, I'm not. I wasn't on what he said after those awards is true, like yeah,

they should. They kind of just bunched them in with hip hop. I mean, yeah, for sure, it wasn't a rap album. It was a great album by the way, amazing, amazing album. You should have won Album of a Year, like for sure. And but I was happy to see him win because he earned it. He's been in the game for a minute. It was his time, you know. And I was just like the wall, I just gotta pay my dues, bro, Like he doesn't pay his dues. He didn't put out great albums that didn't get recognized,

so it was just his time. But I think he should have won at the highest level, which is Album of a Year. I agree. And so yeah, like I sailed that to say, probably getting nominated for Best Rap Album at that I just remember, that's the most like I lived in the moment. I was already on vacation

at the time. I was in Turks and Kko's and then I watched like them announcing the Grammy nominations, and I remember because they said my name last because they say it in alphabetical order, so I heard the first four names and then I ain't hit my name and yeah exactly, and so Yan I was like because I thought, I was like, I thought I wouldn't go because I just knew I was going to get it for sure. I knew I was gonna get it. And then when

they said my name, lad my heart sung. When I think my name didn't get called it and I heard it, I'm like, let's fucking go. I didn't even care about the Best Rap Song nomination. I just wanted that album album. That's what mattered. Bodies of work you want to be. You know, people get Best Rap Song and nominations all the time, but best Rap Album that's a big deal now for sure, especially up against you know, like A

Coler and things of that nature. So I was like that that was probably the most like I lived in the moment, saw the moment for me. What were your expectations, because there's your first week numbers are out right. Yeah, it's just like a narrative that you know it might have underperformed. How do you feel about that whole conversation? Man, it's funny, man, because like, I don't I took the label off anyway. I don't give a ship to Ralph's Water, right,

all right, that's what you got me drinking keviv. What if it now fucking with you? Water's water baby? No pH levels in this. But it's all good. It's all good. I used to order like seven eleven water from Postmates just from like just pure laziness of not going AnyWho.

That's a whole different story. But you know, with the first week things, like, I'm at the the point of my career to where I'm not worried about no first week numbers and I know it's fucking oh he's saying that because of now it's I said this with my last album. I said it from the very beginning, you know, like I'm not pressed about no ship like that. You know, I'm worried about what my tour is going to do because I'm a torn artist, you know. Oh, so I

make music to perform it. So when if my tour is sold out off the album, then I know it's done what it's supposed to do. And again, I waited two and a half years in between it without like any touring and not this ain't no excuse or anything. I'm just saying, like, I make music to tour, So as long as my tours are sold out and my merch and people are like loving the music, That's what

I cared the most about. You know? Is it cause like there is a truth right to artists these days in major situations for the most part, do you make your money? I mean we're gonna get to how you made seven million dollars okay, allegedly, allegedly without dropping a fucking song, but no, but like in general, you know, yg was just talking about on he was doing the Barbershop Talk with Lebron and he was saying how he hasn't seen a cent off of any of his album

sales this whole time he's been on death Chat. Yeah, So is it like, is it indeed like you're touring your merch, your endorsement situation? Yeah, Puma Coulture, Yeah, you're fucking everywhere. You know what I'm saying, you appreciate it? Is that really where you're you're getting your bread and butter financially for sure, unless you were like fully independent and you own your masters, like you're going to get most of your majority of your bread from uh, you know,

to out other entities. Do you own your masters? Nope, No, not yet, not yet. That's what I was kind of alluding to earlier, because you're when you sign men sign young like you signed early. Yeah, for sure. So I feel like you've already kind of leveled up where you where you are mentally and kind of understood how I own a percentage of them, but I don't. You own your masters is like you percent und so the next go round, that's got to be in the deal, right, Yeah,

for sure. I gotta. Look, I don't want to misquote you know what my situation is anything, but I gotta But it's on the way all the way. Would you with the way the industry is kind of moving and you're seeing like a lot of artists have real success independently, would that be ever a route that you would explore in the future. I don't know, honestly. I really fuck with Atlantic Records, you know, at this point in time, right, But I say that to say I really fuck with them, honestly,

Like it's high level under Atlantic. Now it's a whole separate, instantly separate. Yeah. Yeah, Like I got full control on my own ship. Like creative control on everything. It's like they just do they just put it out honestly, you know. They they're enthusiastic about your ship. Like like I talked to everybody over there, so everyone's always talking about your ship. Yeah for sure, And that's why I signed with Atlantic, because that enthusiasm and that excitement and passion, you know what.

Julie Greenwald, Mike Causer, Dallas, so many other plan Rey, so many Craig Common, all those people over there there were like, you know, really enthusiastic and really excited about everything. And so I say all that to say that I like why, I'm honestly not even though no like politically correct shit. It's like if it wasn't, i'd say it. Yeah. Twenty twenty two, the album is out, Uh fucking you're doing Coch Yep. The pandemic is still kind of going on. Yep,

we're still in the pandemic. Yeah. No, it's wild, Yeah, one hundred percent. We just like, all right, it's just because the for economic reasons that were not shut down. No, for sure we should be shut down. If we were still shut down, it might be the end of America for sure, Like finance for sure. All the way, there'd be so many people killing themselves and you know it'd be done. I'd be pissed off personally. Yeah, I feel like, like, god, damn I toured, Like, yeah, it's crazy. Are you? Are

you going to tour the album? Yeah? Yeah, I got I tour in two weeks. It starts in two weeks. Starts in two weeks. Who's opening I'm not sure yet. Honestly, Oh shit, well, I mean for two weeks away. You might want to figure that shit out. Absolutely. I was hoping for high level artist honestly, yeah, exactly, like we gotta find somebody. Ship ship. Yeah. I saw that Namir was at the release party. Yeah, I appreciate you for

DJ and that you and zach VIIa. That was a very random night because I go to the party and Ace comes to me in a panic and he's like, I need you to DJ, and I was like, I don't have my laptop. He was like, get it here, and I was like, all right, damn, you must really fuck with a that's my dog. Yeah. So I got I had, I got a laptop delivered, and my the laptop that was delivered, Nico Blitz's, was not compatible with

whatever fucking dj. It was a struggle. Well I said that to say the album release party was an incredible event. You shout out Dave Chappelle. You had Dave Chappelle do stand up. Yeah, he hosted, he jammed out. Yeah. There was a blunt circle backstage. It was him, Steve Herkle, Simba, somebody else was there. Oh sada baby. Yeah. It was the most random blunt circle I've ever I was like, Yo, this is Dave Chappelle, Steve Virkle, Jahill, is it Hill White? Yeah?

I can tell you got later that night too. Man, the same day my album dropped, Me and Dave went to go pull up on Kanye and yeah, so after the album release party, you pulled up on Kanye with Dave. Yeah yeah. And ab actually ab ab happened to be there. That's my boy. Shout out a B and y'all got to this is my first I met Kanye before, but this is the first time I got to like chop it up with him on some like you know, on conversation.

Yeah exactly, and like, you know, this is one of my idols, one of my biggest idols, I said ever for sure, Like I've said it a dozen times, and he was like, oh, were you album just dropped now? He's like, yeah, play it for me, and he was just dope, man, just to sit play my album that just came out thirty minutes ago with Kanye and Dave and just kick it with him, you know what I'm saying on some some chill shit? What what was? What was? Did he give you any feedback on the album or

just any any gems at all? I didn't ask for it. I just feel like Kanye's just when he talks, it's like, man, man, he's the one. Yay he played like some unreleased music, like we're just playing track for track, you know, like unreleased stuff, and man, Yay's the one bro. I got. I And I was a lot of times when I meet like people I've idolized I would not be too cool for school, but like, you know, cause I'm from Maryland. Bro. We never we used to call it like man, you

on dick, like you dick riding whatever, whatever. And I never was the type like I meet one of some of the biggest people you can think of. I never asked for a pick. I never like it just be just chopping up on some human and human shit. But one of my biggest regrets was when I met Kobe, I didn't get to tell him like what he meant to me, like growing up, how much of an idol he was to me. So when I met Yay, I just had like in a real way, I tell him like, man, like, Nigga,

you my biggest influence. I say that, I said when I'm in an interview and they asked I say that. He's like, yeah, you better tell him, nigga, Like you know what. I moved to La, took a bus by myself with thirty year old strangers. Blue le Kevin DJ had to come to your release party for sure. Did you get any free merch that night? Remember we're trying to grab dud. Yeah I did get it. Yeah, good looks. Yeah, I definitely got it that fire merch by the way,

Hell yeah, of course it's gonna be fire merch. How did the Dave ship because obviously you and Ve shappardy from the same region, you know for yeah DMV. Yeah from the d MV. Like it's not a he sat on stage that you call him to come and do this. Yeah, and he came. He came, and you know, he was like Yo, look, everyone have have their Nobody was allowed to have their phone out. One's phones was in bags except mine. Yeah wow, and whoever else that footage? Yeah?

But uh, in general, like it was a very like he was doing it because he obviously genuinely fucks with you as a person, as an artist, et cetera. But how did that relationship Like what are the roots of you and Dave Chappelle? We what did I first meet Davit? I can't quite recall honestly when I first met him, but again, we both from the same area. Whenever I first I first met him, like we just we birthed both virgos, excuse me, and like he's one of my idols.

You know what I'm saying. I saw you when you're on stage and the way I feel like that was one of those moments where you were, like, fucking Dave Chappelle's next to me on my album release dage. Yeah, Nah, he's the one, bro, Dave Chappelle is the one. But like not even like he's It's not too many people that like unequivocally who you can say they are the best what they've done or what they do. He is

actually the best at what he does. He's the greatest comedian of all like alive, you can argue of all time. I would say he's top three. Yeah, I think it's like him prior to George Carl But he's the greatest comedian alive, correct, right, and to me anyway in my opinion. But maybe I'm a little biased, right, But but even before he's the greatest. But you know, the Chappelle Show, even my sense of humor, man, it's like super like Dave Chappelle influenced. And so we just continue to build.

I would even when I was making this album, I will go up to Ohio to go see him. It's because it's like in the middle of nowhere. I just get timed for peace and quiet to think on things. Because he's got like a compound. Yeah, yeah, he got he got a town, he's got a little he got a town he has Ohio. Did you go to any of those comedy shows he was doing, Yeah I did, Yeah, I did. I went to a couple actually, And he's just always somebody that has shown me love, just been

He's always a phone call away, man. I just call him ask him for advice about certain things. And you know how to maneuver and how does he do this and do that? You know, like he's really like the greatest man. Like welling up on Kanye with Dave Chappelle is like, kid, Dave is the one who introduced us. By the way, I gotta make sure credit him on that. I just think of like Kanye being on the Chappelle show. The Double XL cover that Dave Chappelle curated. It was

dead press to quality. I think Kanye was on there too, anyway. Do you remember that cover? You're probably a young child, yeah that Yeah. Yeah, you're a big basketball guy. How you feeling about this year so far? Because I know you're not Wizards. I'm Wizards all day? Hey yeah addition by subtraction, Yeah, Westbrook goes the Wizards are good. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Bradley Bill's I know you can correlate those two. But Bradley Bill is balling

and Kuzma's bawling. Yeah, boy, Kuzman is nice. Yeah. How'd you ask something to prove? Yeah? Yeah, you and KD got a cool relationship, right, Yeah, yeah, I would say we were cool. I'm not like again, I don't like to exaggerate anything. But that's like, that's the homie. You know, he from the same area. He always show love and

support my music. He's a real nigga. Who is your If you had to give me like your top five d m V rappers of all time excluding Corday who Okay, top d n V rappers of all time, Yep, gotta go wide of course, gotta go Shot Lizzie, Okay, gotta go Fat Trail, Free Fat Trail again, Free Fat Trailer again. I did a record with him too when he was out. We got some shit together, so boom boom, because those are just the three that kicked in the door, kicked

open the door for me. Wile a Fat Trail, Shot Glizzie, Big Flock, and Cue the Fool Okay, Yeah, and you gotta put logic in there as well as far as just massiveness, big selling records, selling out arenas. But those five were like the most influential for sure. But you definitely got to put logic in there for what he done and opened up the doors. I'm trying to think if there's anyone else that I'm thinking from the d m V that I used to really, I mean, I mean,

you've got a lot of them. Yeah, that's it. Shout out to the DMV man and then of course Corday. Now yo, so the album is out. You know, Rico Nasty's from the DNV as well. I did not know. Yeah on the whole Brent Fayez, Oh yeah, Brent's fucking Brent Fire and I was just going to you know, but Brent Fayaz and Rico Nasty, those are the two people honestly that in that like inspired me the most coming out of dn V because we all not the same age, but all was coming up. Well, they was

up way before I was. They was already like but they weren't superstars quite yet in like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. But they showed me because I thought you had to be on some street shit to blow up out of DNV because that's what everybody was doing, like you know, the cute fool Shabaz, big Flop Gunu, all of these cats. Shout out to all of them. I feel like Brent's one of the more underrated guys. Like when we just think of like how he came up, how he was independent,

just like now he's the ones business model. First of all, the music is incredible, but high level everything else that comes with, like his story, like how they were just operating just so independent for so long as R and B singers, Like, Yeah, we always think about all these rappers that are independent as fuck. He shout out to Russ, shout out to Dolph, shout out to all these independent dudes. YEA, Like Brent Fires is really independent as a motherfucker. Yeah,

on a whole other level on some R and B shit. Yeah, nah, He's one of the ones. And seeing him and Rico, they both was in their own they whole like own lane, you know, not following like the DMV trend, both on their own lane doing the executing at a high level. So those two motherfuckers right there was inspiring the shit out of me. What is on the binge watch list for Corday recent? Like, what are you binge watching at home? If you're at home chilling with the lady, what do

you guys throwing on? I don't really binge watch anything, to be honest, bro, I've been I'm even Like the day my album came out, after I linked up with Ya and after the album release party, I went straight back home and got in the studio row but you don't watch TV, not that your four Nah, don't. I gotta tap into that, honestly, Like, I'll like watch I Love to Be a Mess series. I got to watch that. That ship was super fire. Shout out Little Meat fifty.

That shit was incredible. You ever watched Curby Enthusiasm? Nope? Oh man, it's the funniest show ever. I've heard that recently from somebody else, Larry David. He's just old. He's a guy who wrote Seinfeld, so it's like a bro. I just heard this from somebody. It's the funniest show like all time. I don't know who recommended me this, but somebody literally recommended me. Curb your enthusy as excuse me, curb your enthusiasm within the last two weeks. You gotta

tap in. Yeah, I must have to. What about your favorite movies ever? Give me three movies that come to mind. Okay, top is top movies ever? Now this pornography count porn movies? Yeah? Sure, hmm, you say, what who's this? We'll get to those. Who's your favorite porn star everts of all time? All time? Oh? Okay, you gotta go with the pop Eyes chick. Just for the culture because like that was just a moment in time. The Popes. You never seen the pop Oys jump? You

recommended curb your enthusiasm. I recommend the pop Eyes jump. I don't know, like just top three. We'll do the porn stars first, then the movie. Sorry, the movie. Let's do the movie. Let's do the movie. Three movies Friday. This is just some ultimate, just nigga shit, to be honest, but it's just my truth, my top three. It's a great movie, change my life. Great movie Friday, six years old,

talking like Smokey Damn. What's another movie I love? I love? Okay, this is a random one because I just got asked this question. But Glorious Bastards, Oh so good. I loved that because I'm a history fucking fiend. I love history, so whenever people incorporate like history and it's some shit. I guess the most underappreciated Quentin Tarantino movie. Great movie.

I was at the comedy store a couple of days ago and Quentin Tarantino was sitting in the booth next to us by himself, fucking laughing his like, the guy had the loudest fucking laugh in the whole place. But it was like it was kind of surreal to be like, oh shit, I live in LA and sometimes you go to the comedy store and you're sitting next to the greatest director of all time. Yeah, one more glorious Bastards Friday. Can it be TV show or just strictly movies? Give

me a TV show? Fuck it? I would say the Chappelle Show. But if I can't say the Chappelle Show, I would say Boondocks. Boon Docks is amazing, amazing, Yeah, boon Docks is up there. Okay, porn Stars, and then the interview's over, Okay, porn Stars. I can't remember, honestly, it's been such a minute because like I used to love porn as a kid, as a teenager, but it's like a vice bad. It's really bad for you. No, no, no, it's like I like, after I've finished, I'd be like,

oh my god, what is wrong with me? I'm sure terrible human? But it's like the most every time you jerk off, and you know, sometimes you got porn Hub open and you end up with like eleven tabs. Yeah, for sure, you're gonna have some credit cards, get scammed and ship and then you're like, damn, what did I ah,

like what about yeah for sure? Like yeah, no, it's not the wave honestly, like I can you never know what you're gonna get right because you just start like, oh this is a cool tap, like a cool thumbnail. You're like, then you just you end up in a place that you didn't know you we're gonna end up in thirty minutes prior and man thirty forty five or like on a man man. I really can't name like the names off the top because it's been a minute.

I'm not just trying to be on some cool nigga shit like oh you know, I don't want but I can't think of it. No one name not off the door Popeyes, I forgot her name. I can just tell you, like the scenario it was, it was shot up, was shot in Adam Popeyes. This is like this is culture keV like at like this is this is called many years ago? Is this about five four to five years ago? My prom he's a creep. You know what the Popeyes? You know about the Popeyes, bro, you curb your enthusiasm.

Popeye'es porn for sure, It's gonna go on h X videos and typing Popeyes and see what pop is maybe on porn hub. I'm not sure about X videos. Shout out, shout out to the hub of Hub is life, Hub is life. Well, look, I appreciate you pulling up man, the album is dope. Appreciate you having me. I was telling this to Ace. I think I had the album maybe like a week early, and cohesively is like perfect, Like you know, thanks you back, Like I feel like, you know, I love the first album, but I feel like,

you know you you improved on the second one. Man, Nah, thank you. I appreciate that. That means the world to me. Hopefully I got away three years to get the next. No, no, no, I'm coming. I'm the world is back open like a pandemic. I'm coming. You know every artist has their uh, their era to where they just start dropping ship and start going crazy. I think this is this is why I like doing that. How'd you make seven million dollars? This is the last question. Okay, you know, for all you know,

I could have been lying, man. I mean, you know it's a nice flex. So how'd you make you know, uh, less than seven million? I mean, how'd you get in lessons without putting out music during the pandemic. Man, just being more honestly, being more mindful of my business, more mindful everything I do as a business expense, you know, it's a write off. I'm investing in the real estate, stocks and bond This is just how you attain wealth

in general. Just more so generalizing my turn, not saying how I made more or less right but now, but like you're actually putting money into yeah, yeah, in stocks, bonds, real estate. I'm not too big on the crypto way because I would have to do a lot more research on that. But I'm super like old school more so with my safe stocks. I found a couple of gold mines like Neo and i Owe, which is like the Chinese Tesla. And I got into the stock market at

a great time. This is when COVID first happened. When it first happened, everything was super low. No no no, no, dal Jones on the nineteen thousand. Right now it's at like thirty seven or something like that. So I dumped into it. I was just like, I have, I'm in this blessed position to have access to all this extra capital,

So I just dumped in it. You know, doing certain brand endorsement deals things of that, nature like, yeah, I mean your fly ship with the latest one is coach right, No, no, no, I'm not coach on Puma all day. Oh Puma. I feel like I feel like someone told me you were coach. Yeah I was, but you know how it didn't work out and it's not and it didn't work out. But I'm Puma all day, Puma, Pum all day. What is their biggest non rap check been so far? Don't don't

tell us how much? Just yeah, where was it from? Puma? Puma all day? Fucking poom man? They man, I had to downgrade my lifestyle when the pandemic happened. I'm like, ship, nigga, we might have to start motherfucking doing swipe up so on the stories and promos and ship for It's like, I'm like, ship nigga, how are we finna do this? We ain't doing shows like ship now. But you know I didn't have to downgrade my lifestyle at all. That's good. They gonna give your own sneakers soon, yes, on the

works right now, Yeah, because Cole sneakers fire. Yeah, I feel like you're you gotta get your sneaker man. You know it's it's it's already. It's gonna be high level. Are you be involved in the silhouette and the design? Yeah, yeah, My boy Ian Rutlish, my boy I and Michael excuse me, shout out to him has been helping on a design as well. So it's gonna be imello. It was a Puma guy. Yeah, yeah, now Puma and I've been with

Puma like Earth. They've been rocking with me early, like remember a mellow before a bunch of not saying you know whatever, but I remember a lot of these cats. They've been rocking with me early early. You know. They was in the location my Locations video Location Ships video

was paid for by Puma, you know. So I called them like my fairy godmother man like, because they they're just they treat me well over there, like no even like for my the Hourum release, they sent me like fucking Acespace bottle and like, man, they like they treat me really well. Like when I'm doing things in conjunction with Puma, they'll like fly me on like the Puma jet,

like I really fuck with that company. Man. Even more than that, they're like very and I'm not just saying this because I'm getting the check up for sure, this and that, because with as an artist is a fine line. You can't become like too brand heavy because you lose like you're you'll just look like you'll do whatever for a dollar, you know. So I try to remain like very reclusive when it comes to brand alignment thing anybody.

And I think the less brand deals you have is more cool because I could just because of like who I am and the type of the lane I'm in, I can fucking be cashing out brands all the day. But but but I'd be sletting myself out in the long term if I'm just taking every single brand deal

every Yeah, for sure. And so I say that to say that Pulma has been in alignment with what I have for my vision and they're always like helping with community projects, things that I'll never like have on camera, these things that's just for for my good karma and to actually help people they really like into the community and things of that nature. So they got to do a commercial with you, LaMelo and the best Puma athlete, the starting center for the best team in the NBA,

DeAndre Aiden. Yeah, oh you are shout out CP three. That's my boy. Yeah, that's my dog. He's a grown ass man. Now that's my boy. Like he'd be showing me mad and mad mad love and he's just like no, no no, no, we met? How did mean CP three meet? We met? Oh? Because you know, my family lives in North Carolina. You know, I was born in North Carolina. You know, I was raised a lot of Maryland. But my I talked to Rhapsody about that. She was like that boy from Carolina. Yeah yeah, yeah for sure, but

but a lot I was I grew. I was born in Raleigh, North Carolina. Like, my family lives in North Carolina, and so it's that Carolina connection. And yeah, he just shows like a lot of love. Man, gives a lot of insight and whatever. Like he's one of the ones real. He's probably the best point guard of Like I think it's your point guard top five all time. Yeah, I mean, like probably the best leader in the NBA over the

last like twenty years. Bro. Yeah, every team he goes to gets instantly better, like playoff not even play off the Thunder two years ago. Bro. Yes, yeah they're at five seed. Yeah, like no, bro, because it's like a piece of advice CP three is given. Man, just just lock in and stay working, like and just realize what's your goal and just stay true to yourself, and you'd be fucking pulling up to these games. You flew to Phoenix to go to the finals game. I was at

the finals. Yeah. I was late for it too, I can I know. I was sitting like up above and I saw you come in, like yeah, like end of them. No, no, it was like five minutes left in the fourth court. I was upset about it. I know. I had a sent me He's like, Yo, do you want to go to the Sun's game with Corda And I was like sure, and then he was like, yo, he's gonna be super fucking late. And I was like, well, I'm I'm gonna just get my own ticket, yeah, because I can't miss.

I mean we ended up losing that game. Yeah, No, I was there for Yeah, I went there. Really does support CEP. Honestly, You're at a lot of games though you're like a real fucking basketball and man, you know, I'm in a blessed position. But I've never been to an NBA game, not courtside really, like I've never my first NBA game. No, no, no, no, I've never went to an NBA game as a kid. So my first NBA game was you know, me being an artist. So

I've always been courtside. Bro, it's a blessing you worked into the plumid deal. No no, no no, no no, no, no no no, this is this is just how you splurge. Now. I don't spend no, I don't spend no money on it. It's like either a player lookout or like somebody just randomly called like yo, you want to go to the you know what I'm saying. So like me having this relationships with players, they'd be like, yo, pull up on the game, bro, I got you doing doing amazing. We'll

shout out to my guy Corde. Appreciate you pulling up, Appreciate you having me. I always love Yes, easy money Yeah boom