#13 - Gashi

episode for everybody. Today, Man, I'm gonna do probably another podcast like Wednesday or Thursday this week just to kind of touch on a lot of other stuff going on, a lot of hip hop stuff, just a lot of stuff going on in the world, so be able to look out for that. Probably do it with my boy duve Phx. But this week we got Gashy on the show,

who is one of my favorite people in music. I met him a few years ago and his energy is just insane, and you know, he's one of those artists that you might not have heard of, but if you haven't heard of him, legit probably one of the best conversations I've ever had with an artist, definitely one of my favorite. Probably my favorite actually, either this one or the Conway interview, my favorite interview that I've done since we've launched the Bootleg cap podcast. So everyone check it out.

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quick too. Getting a bootleg keV podcast merch worked on as we speak, so hopefully in the next couple of weeks they'll be some merch available for a purchase. All right, let's get into this interview Man Gashy, episode number thirteen. It's the Blue Leg Cab podcast, Yo, Man Blutleg Cab Podcast with special guests, whose new project nineteen eighty four is officially out everywhere. So Homie Gashy, Yo, what's up? Thank you for having me. Let's talk about the eighties, bro.

I just want to start off because I've been listening to your project and it is truly nostalgic. Yes, in every capacity. I saw you riding around in the old school bends. Yeah, and the DeLorean, the DeLorean, I got the bands, I got the Royce, the Rose Royce. Nineteen eighty four. What year were you born in? I was born in I'm a nineties baby, okay, yeah, because I was born in eighty seven, so I don't even remember the eighties. Yeah, so what why the eighties? Basically, I'm

in love. I love movies, you know, I love movies, and I have my favorite movies, you know. And one thing that I found myself, so so I stopped doing drugs for a while, okay, and I'm proud of myself. I don't for a while. Does that mean you're like doing them again now? No, it means for a long time. I haven't done them, okay, and congratulations, thank you so much. And I feel like I found what I found my drug and it was John Hughes movies. Oh wow, pretty

in Pink. Yeah, I think so just like those eighties movies for the Breakfast, the Breakfast, Club, Fire, all the just just like all those movies, even Home Alone, you know, like all those movies, you know, and they make me feel like when I was an immigrant in a different country because I'm not from America, so when I was in a different country. I would watch The Ta as a kid and be like, Yeah, I wish I lived in a house. I wish I had all these family

members running around. I wish I had like a kitchen, a refrigerator in the microwave, and my own room and stuff like that. And that was like my dream to have that, Like that was always my dream. And I watch sorry about that. I watch and listen. I watch and listen to eighties music to feel like a kid, and that's my drug. So I eat a lot of food. I have a lot of random sex. Okay, so random sex, food and eighties movies with eighties music. And that's what

got me to nineteen eighty four. And I did nineteen eighty four twenty fifteen, I just never put it out, So this is a five year old album. Now. It's funny because the eighties have such a like distinct sound, and I would almost argue that, like the popular consensus might be that eighties music might maybe is aged worse than most other decades of music. H wouldn't you say, like, I don't know, but but it's just I think it's dope because obviously it was a very brave and you

like like you did a whole album. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Like, you really committed, bro, Yeah, I mean you know, twenty twenty is the new nineteen eighty four, and I'm glad I put it out now. I remember you telling me the story about how you heard Rosenberg play your song. Yeah, Like it's almost like at the tipping point of whether or not you're gonna keep going one hundred percent. I was gonna drop out. You're gonna you were taking the trash out or something, right, and

I was gonna drop out. I was gonna, no, well not drop out. I was gonna quit music and go back to college. Then you heard it on real late. Yeah, So my mom had a My mom had the thing. My mom had a night shift and I was driving her a Sunday night shift twelve o'clock and while driving her, the song came on on the radio. It was like a sign and it was just like your mom was in the car. Yeah, she was in the car with me. Oh,

that's gotta be crazy. Yeah. And then the feeling of it was so amazing that I was like, yeah, I loved the feeling so much. I was like, this is like, you know, the younger me is so nuts, like I was crazy, Like I was so crazy. I understand, like the way I was thinking then, I laugh, I really laughed, Like, yo,

I feel the same way. Sometimes you just think back to just the shit that you were, like that you the way you would act, or the thoughts that used to go through your head when you were like nineteen twenty, Like damn, well, who the fuck was I back then? Man? Exactly? So embarrassing, you know, it is so fucking crazy. I literally thought that I was going to be like the biggest fucking rapper in the world at one point. I mean, shit, man,

keep chipping away, dog, No, I'm done. No, I mean artist, Well, I am going to be the biggest artist. Yeah, that's a different story. But I thought I was gonna become a rapper. Yo. Man, you guys gotta you gotta get RCA in line over there. I thought they dropped the ball on that my Year record something crazy, bro. Yeah, I thought that ship was a fucking slam dunk. I was like, oh my god, this is the one that's going to push him over. Yeah, Like, how does Urcay

fuck this? What up? I think it's like a perfect example of there's certain times when like labels just don't know how to work certain artists. Yeah, and I feel like they don't know how to work you, and it's like it's I'm kind of glad they didn't. That's fair because then you would have been in that box. Yeah, you would have been into my year box. Fuck that ship. Like it's been two years since my year. That's crazy, right, Yeah, it has been been almost two years. Yea, yeah, it's

been two years is my year. But I get booked one hundred and fifty one hundred to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for one night, one one New Year night to perform that song Solomon helps you with that out. Yeah, that's my that's my brother. I've known fifteen years. That's my guy. So we get paid like the biggest bags on New Years to perform that song. So I have a song even though I'm like like a singer now artist, now pop artist, I still get booked to perform that

one record. So I'm like, I'm like Mariah Carey on Christmas on New Year's because Mariah Carey, what was the name of that one chick that had the graduation record? What was that? What graduation? That song? It's like that's like the graduation song, and that's like her only record. But it's like, you know, but you still play it there forever. It's like a song that will be there forever that my years exactly. So my year started a

year after it came out. Started the baseball champion start, the baseball season, ended the baseball season at the championship started, the basketball season, ended the basketball season's championship. So no matter what you say, it's gonna be my year, It's gonna be my year forever. So I will forever have that song put money in my pockets and my family pocket. It's beautiful, man. Yeah. But going back to what I was saying, I was, you know, I I fell in

love with feeling like a kid again. And I made this album twenty fifteen, and I made it for myself. I didn't want to share it with the world. It was kind of like my Xenax was like me, just every time I would go through my problems, I would play the record. I'd be in my house, I turn on an eighties movie. I'd make like a new tell a sandwich and feel like a kid with no problems, and that would get me through life. COVID happened, everyone

hit rock bottom. I felt it was right to put this out, and it's been the greatest responses I've ever had in my entire career for any project, any song that I've ever released. And I've released a lot of songs that've gotten me a lot of me for a couple of years. Yes, they've gotten me a lot of love, you know. But I've went platinum, you know, on records, I've went triple platinum or records I've I've done so much and I'm still treated like an underground artist, which

I love. And the door because I don't want to be the number one artist. Then everybody forgets about and no one cares about because you know, the number one artists are not cool and the artists that are number one are not played at the parties I attend. So and that's something that I learned from a guy named Black Coffee. Black Coffee, Yeah, shout the black Coffee. He taught me that, and I had to store that in my head, you know. And nineteen eighty four was not

made for mainstream. I mean, listen, I feel like when I heard it, I was like, this is a this is like one of those projects. That's like, it's not like you said, it didn't feel like it was made for radio. It just felt like, hey, it's a concept echo. I remember when I was a kid, Prince Paul put out an album that was it was like a movie on I think it was called like The Prince of Thieves or some shit, but it was like fifty songs

and it was like a movie. It was like, Yo, this is like dope, it's just a creative Like it's just first of all, your creator first. You're an artist first, and I think that's true artistry. You're not making it for you know, the accolades as much as it's like, yo, why not do a concept album in twenty twenty, because nobody does that shit no more. Yeah, the idea of a concept album is like gone away with Spotify and playlists and all that shit. Yeah, I mean, kids are

making music for playlists and I'm not. And I feel like I feel like, you know, some of the greatest people have hit me up after this album. I mean, you have sting on a song I know. And now I'm not even gonna lie to you. I'm not the biggest eighties music guy. Obviously, the Police legendary. Sting legendary. I mean as a kid, my only Sting memory was when he came out and performed Missing You with a Puff Daddy at the VMA's. But like dog, Sting is one of them guys, He's one of the Jedis. Yeah,

and he feels that way about me. Now, So how did that relationship feature happen? Because no one's getting sting on projects. I know. My manager played the song for his manager, and his manager played my album for him, and he picked Mama as the biggest song of twenty twenty and he's like, I would love to be a part of that. So he wrote his verse, cutit, send it back to me, and that wrote me, and I

just think like he did his research. You know, he saw that The New York Times like called me like the trap Phil Collins, because I do like sing like Phil Collins kind of sometimes on trap beats. But like he respected everything my grind. He heard my story and cut it send it back. I love it. And we just kept in touch. And I haven't had a chance to meet him because of COVID, yeah, because he's in London.

But this has been the best response I've ever had with any song or any music, nothing but blue checks and my dms of like legendary artists writing me saying how much they love and appreciate the album and how much they love my song Lies and they love my song Mama so much. And you know, Kanye West probably you know people heard Kanye West loves Don't Kill Me and Mama and stuff like that, and like from like

people that I've like, similar people. We have mutual friends and stuff, and like like just like legendary people listen listening to my project and in writing me, and it just feels like such a blessing because I released it for me in case I did die, because twenty twenty is like killing everyone you never know. So in case I did leave Earth, I just wanted to put out a project without someone putting it out for me and

adding a bunch of features. That's fair. Yeah. So you so you said that you essentially had kind of replaced I'm assuming was it. Did you? Would you consider yourself someone who had a drug problem? No, No, I had a mental problem. Okay, I think mentally I'm fucked. I was fucked. Mentally I wanted to Mentally, I was off and I was so sad. I was depressed, and I was kind of I was like a bit soon title you know how long ago was this twenty thirteen? Okay, I was just so down. It was just like like

just the thought of it is scary. You know. I didn't want to leave my room, like no one could get me out of my bed. Like I was just so fucked up. I was done. And you know, like if it wasn't for my mother, I don't think i'd be here because you know, my mom prays for me and stuff like that. Like it always sounds a bit stupid, but like prayers really work. Like you know, people that are like people that are connected to the universe. It don't really matter about like what religion you are depends

on like how connected you are to the universe. And I think my mom's found a way to get like when her mother died, she found a way to get connected with the universe to like keep her stable in like she's tapped in. She's tapped in. Yeah, so she prays for me and stuff, and I think it works. And I'm I'm a bit worried because I don't think I'm going to be as strong when I don't have

my mom by my side in a few years. I think they were all worried about that when that day comes, right when we was our parents, like I still got both of my parents, but like, shit, just the thought of, like, my grandma just died this year because of COVID. She was a crazy She was in a nursing home, and that was one of them ones where it was like, man, you know, she was like ninety two. So it was like, okay,

you know, kind of prepping myself for a while. But my parents I can't even imagine not talk about it. Yeah it's crazy, man, Yeah, it's you know what I always appreciated about you. Yeahsh she was your energy, man, Like not only like before I met you and interviewed you, I felt like your energy was very like in everything you do, whether it's your social media or your music,

it's very prevalent that like your energy is fire. And I remember when I first met you and we interviewed you in like twenty seventeen, I think, yeah, I just remember saying like, man, this dude is like I just want to see you win, you know what I'm saying, And you know, it seemed like a really authentic guy. Now since then I remember that. I think that might have been when you first first did the rock Nation situation and you had some some Spotify success. Yeah, shout

out Tuma really helped me. Out. Shout out to Tuma man, he's at YouTube music now. To him ever since he left Rap Caviars really not relevant. Yeah, we we had that rap the Rapcafar conversation off the mic. But yeah, but I'm curious, like since I first met you to now, obviously you've had a lot of success commercially, You've been

through different situations. Has has I always noticed like it's almost hard to get through this industry with a certain amount of success without it kind of like tainting you a little bit? Do you did you? Do you feel like you went through that at all? Or has like, like has has running through the industry outlet the last few years like affected you in a negative or positive way? Because I feel like it definitely can. I mean I think I think I'm I'm I'm over it. I'm not

I'm over I'm over it. I think that's why I made the nineteen eighty four album because the magic was gone. I'm it's all a lie, it's all fake, It's not real, meaning everything everything's not real. Your favorite artist right now, the biggest pop star in the world, has one hundred million followers and fake and all the I wish, like I wish the normal human brain, Like I wish that normal human being would wake up and just see how stupid this is. Like the likes are fake, the comments

are fake. Everything's fake. Like everything's fake. So they look at me and they say things like, damn, Gushi he only has twenty three million, only he has twenty three million views on YouTube where he only has two hundred thousand in the first week. Damn, Like those are real people, Like those are legit, real people, you understand, Like, you know these people buying five hundred million streams on Spotify,

Frank Sinatra is not even getting that. After a Joker movie comes out and the theme song is that song, usually the songs go up, but those numbers are not even flying. You understand. What I'm trying to explain to you. I'm trying to explain to you is like there's a curtain that can be pulled back with this music shit, man, And I've started to see it a lot. Man. Yeah, it's just so bad. I live in a scary time. That's all I'm saying. I live in a scary time.

Movies are not the same, music's not the same. Everything's so micro waved. The kids are brainwashed. They have enough. They don't know they like things because cool to like it. Such. It's such a terrible time for music, movies, and everything, and probably the most judgmental time too. We've ever been like yeah, like you can't even make a mistake anymore. No, you get canceled. You know. It's like they want like like people are just waiting for you to fucking see

something they don't. I'm kind of waiting for me to get canceled because just to get it over with, just to get it over with, you know what I'm saying. It's like having COVID, you know, know that's some real ship, bro, Like just get it out the way, because you know what, like you and I are, like we grew up. Like I'll be listening to some old eminem shit sometimes and I'm like, fuck man, how is it? Like how are they not picketing in front of his house in Detroit

right now? That's what I'm saying. I don't want to bring that up. I don't want to bring that up because I just but it's it's fucking crazy. It is crazy. I'm not going to bring that up because I don't want to give any of these trusting ideas, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't want to bring that up because, like, honestly, Marshall mather Zone p changed my life.

He has a whole entire song about murdering his mother, bro murdering his girlfriend Kim is one of my favorite and raping his mom for the record, yeah, kim Is. You know when he kills he murders his girlfriend and on the album, it's one of the most insane things I've ever heard of in my life. And I wish I had I wish I had a video. That's one thing that I wish, like, this should be a video on that song. Yes, they never did a video for that. I wish they did. It would have been so amazing.

We just got the album cover that had her in the trunk. Yeah, and that was on the sado Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. The second one was him and sitting down. But yeah, man, you get canceled. I don't give a fuck about anything going on right now. I don't give a fuck about who your favorite rapper is. I don't care, like none of this stuff matters to me anymore. I think it's irrelevant where I'm at. I'm really in nineteen eighty four right now. When I made this project, I kind of

wanted to be in that era. I wanted to try time travel to nineteen eighty four, and I'm stuck there, and I enjoy it here. I enjoy it where I am. You know, I bought a house from my mom and dad. I bought a house for me that I don't live in. I still live in my old apartment. People still wait for me in my old apartment, ask for pictures. I take a picture, and I walk to the store, come back like as if nothing is happening. I drive my cars and I don't want to change anything in my life.

The music comes out, I don't. I don't want a house full of my friends doing drugs, doing tiktoks. I was about to say, that's just the Hollywood gauntlet right now. Yeah, fucking house full of a bunch of TikTokers on coke. Yeah exactly, it's literally the fucking holy shit. Yeah, and that's not me, you know what I'm saying. That's not just random aspiring artists moving to LA and then buckering down in a room, Yeah, with eleven other guys who have fu Yeah, it's like it's like the worst, Like

I'm not that's that's it's so crazy. You say that because people who don't, who aren't in first of all, who don't live here, and who aren't in our industry, that is literally so much of what's going on in LA right now. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, good for them, you know what I mean, Like I'm not mad at them, but it's just not my world. They don't give a fuck like I rather just be home watching movies like you know what I mean, Like when was the last

time you saw a movie like Belly? When you're never gonna see it again, You're not, You're just not you know what I'm saying. Now they're redoing Fresh Prince of Bella Are. They're gonna ruin it. They ruined Lion King, they ruined Full House, They're gonna ruin everything. Everything that we've ever loved. We live long enough to see it get ruined. Every single artist that we've ever loved. We live long enough to watch them go on Instagram and

completely throw everything down the drain. It's such bullshit. I just want to get popping. I want to delete everything and go away, like I'm not where I want to be at because I still want to release the music and I need so media for my label so I could do it. But the best part is when I'm completely done, and I'm officially done, just release the music and get the fuck out the way and go hide. That's all I want to do, you know what I mean.

And I'm not angry. I'm not unhappy. I'm so fucking happy. I have a dog and ship. I feed my nephews, I feed. I have a Golden Doodle and he's the fucking man. He's like I have better conversations with him than I do humans. And yeah, I have a pump. Well, my wife has a Pomeranian. It's by default my Pomeranian, and I named him after the Big Lebowski. Okay, his name's Jeffrey Lebowski. Sick sick. My dog's pressed. Then I named them after Blank check Fire Blank Jack Jack. Yeah. Yeah,

I love that ship Yoga. I missed it. I just missed those not like early nineties kids movies like a Little Giants and Ship, like why don't they make some ship like that, And they don't. They don't. They don't like so ice boxes and ship, you know, but like they don't. They just don't. They don't. They're not creative, and that it goes back to what I'm trying to

explain to you. Nineteen eighty four, it's about a kid who goes to his friend Danny's house and Danny's showing him his new crib, and it goes to I found this time machine. I don't know if it works. But the guy that they say died, I don't think he died. I think I know where he went, puts me in the time machine, sends me to nineteen eighty four, and then the album starts, and like, when did you feel

like that last time? You felt like that was probably Universal studios, Like You've never felt that way, you know what I'm saying. So it's a nice mental vacation for people to jump into during these times exactly they play and just zone to get the fuck out, get in your car and feel like you're at a time said something earlier about people buying Spotify streams, Yeah, I know

that that. How much of a thing is that? It's like ninety five percent of people that are like popping are buying Spotify streams, and then they get their music to be playlisted, and these motherfuckers would get like one hundred to two hundred million plays a month, And you're like, how the fuck are they doing that? Like why aren't their bigger songs from like three years ago fast as this?

The song is not even that good. It's like they're trying to make it look like they're getting bigger and better, but it's really backwards. Well that's what I wanted to ask you, because you as an artist, you've been on both sides of it, right, because like Tuma, like really a lot of your early singles, you know, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, like benefited a lot from real Like like I said, when Rap Caviar was really like changing careers. Yes, yes, you know he took a chance on you because at

the time you weren't that wasn't popping. And now that doesn't happen if you're not popping, or you don't have some sort of social like you're not making it on Rap Caviar. But I'm curious, like, what would you say to like an artist who like because it almost Unfortunately, Now, if you're going to get signed, I don't even know if you should get signed. But if you're gonna get major label, you got to do most of the work

before they they come into the picture. I mean right like it's like they want you to make sure that you got all this, this, this, this and this going before. Honestly, I love my RCAA label. I love them as humans. I love Peter Edge. I love them so much. I really do. Truly. I could look at that man's eyes and know that he believes in me. It's not bullshit. You know. I love Mark Pitts. I love everyone at the RCA building because I know they believe in me.

You understand it's not bullshit. But you know a lot of people don't have that. I mean, I'm shooting. I'm shooting videos for a lot of money. You know. They give me money, they send me money. It's how I need money. RCAA takes care of me, so not a lot of artists do that. They sign and then they have to do it themselves. So you just basically signed to watch to have somebody watch you pop off so they could take your money. It's the most backwards thing

I've ever seen that what I was trying to get to. Yeah. Yeah, So it really depends on your situation, you know. You know my situation is different. It took me ten years to be where I'm at, seven years to get my deal hopped on a plane, it turned up at a studio at office. No one plays their own music for people like you, by the way, thank you man. I mean,

I love my music. There's an art to that though, Like yo, no matter like, when you play your shit, you're getting everybody on your level, bro, because you'd be fucking It's that energy I would about earlier. I just love. I love. Everyone should be as confident and into their own shit as you honestly though, if you're not, you know, I look at my You have kids, so you should know what it's like. Like, you know, I look at my music as like my child, you know, like like

when I show it off, I'm proud of it. Yeah, and you don't show your child unless you're not proud of your child. But like you don't show your child and be like, yeah, this is my child, that's throw them out the window, you know what I mean, Like, Nah, this is my child, and I'm gonna rep for for my child, and I'm gonna dance with my child and I'm gonna show you why my child is important. So that's I mean, no, that's I think that's the attitude

most people should have. So with this project being like a passion project, I know you, I know you're working a lot, like how much? And I'm assuming you didn't plan on putting this project out at the beginning of this pandemic or was this always kind of in the cards for you? Like, I mean, I don't know. I wanted to put it out, but I didn't think the pandemic thing was going to happen. I wanted to put it out, like was this the plan to be your next album or or or or was there other music? No,

there's another album. Okay, so there's That's what I was gonna ask, are there's another album that you know? RCA didn't fund the nineteen eighty four album. I funded it. RCA didn't. RCA didn't give me the push, almost like they treated it like it was like a mixtape or something. I guess, yeah, like rc I still love our something. If something pops off on this, we'll get yeah, which is clearly your passion project. Then let's see what it does.

And r c A they believe in me. And one thing that RCA does, which is great, which labels don't do, is they allow artists to beat themselves and do what the one, what the fuck they want to do, you know. And RCA allowed me to do what I wanted with this album, and I didn't get the big label push on nineteen eighty four. It's more like my Ship, but surprisingly I put it out and it's killing. It's killing,

and it's like the people losing their minds. Man, people, you feel like it's a cleansing of of of everyone's palette sonically. I'm thinking about that off the camera, just like with with what's going on in the world. Clubs

aren't going on. Yeah, there's like people are looking for like music to sit with exactly, Like, dude, Like, if I were to die, this Ship would be like my big one, you understand, Like if I'm gone, like in no exaggeration, if something happens to me, this album is going to be legendary, classic, timeless, iconic, you know what I'm saying. And if you're not, if you don't feel like that about your project, you shouldn't put it out that's fair. And this is not me bragging about me.

This is me to having This is me with Rolling Stone magazine interviews Forbes doing some of the greatest, biggest interviews with some of the most relevant interviewers of all time to have have interviewed icons telling me this is an iconic album. So it's the way I feel about it. It's through the people telling me, not me telling myself. You know what I'm saying. I can't toot my own horn. That only could get me as far as getting me somewhere.

But when the people that have the right credentials tell you, yo, this is this is an incredible project, then it kind of makes you. You know, this is Okay. I was saying Stairs album, which is my first one, is my late registration okay, college dropout. I was gonna say, that's Kanye's second album, but okay, no, but no, because I have four play Okay, yeah, yeah, true, true, true. So that's you had a lot of singles. That's yeah, that's

my college dropout. Four play and my late registration stares and let's just skip a few Kanye albums and Goshi is my graduation. This is your at awaits, this is my ways changing changing music, to change music exactly. This is my this is, I would say it Awaits and Yeas This are two like albums Kanye put out that just sonically changed, like the direction of like hip hop or music. Yeah, My My My Darks was fancy as well. Yeah, of course, of course, I just mean in terms of

like like sound sound. Yes, yes, you know what I mean. I agree, I agree. And my next one, my next album is going to be my My My My My Dark tis to fancy Mine my version Fire, and then after that is going to be my Ysis and then you don't know where I'm going to go with it, But I just the thing is, the key is to never make the same song twice, never make the same

sounding album. I always wanted to make my Ship sound like I want to make when I'm in the World in the theme I'm in the theme my next project. I wanted to feel like nineties dance music, you know, like I wanted to feel like a gay club, like that's how I want my music to feel like. I wanted to feel like shout out to all my gay fans too, like they shout out, you know, shout out

to all my gay fans. Like like they have some of the most incredible taste ever ever and they put me on all the time, like listen to this, listen to that, and I kind of like, like I appreciate how like how much love I get, not from everyone, but so sonically you want to go and like I'm just when I think of like what you just said, I don't know why Knight at the Roxbury just popped in my cand Yeah yeah, yeah, that's that's true. Now

that's Roxbury, like those kind of vibes. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, like like a bro, like, that's that's the fucking that's the fucking pool, the uh the Will Ferrell or what's the other guy's name, the tiny guy something can I don't know he's locked up? Oh is he? I think? So? Yeah yeah that'd because but man, like bro, like we're not here forever. Man, you know,

like do what you love? Bro. Like people, I swear, if you see how fast people move on after somebody dies in twenty twenty, you think twice before thinking about what someone else is gonna say about you. That's fair man. Another thing I think that's important for people who don't necessarily uh have the that aren't aware of your come up, Like we spoke about this a few years ago, but I think it's like just really inspiring. How your music career kind of almost stopped right you were you had

a scholarship to play football. Yeah, play football as a scholarship. I dropped out, and then I was going to register for school again, and then Peter Roseberg played my song on a radio really striving, real nice talk. I pulled over, told my mom not going back to school, kept going. Got my deal, I got shelved. I had to find a way added my deal. I got my deal. My documentary was your original deal with Jason flam Lava Records. If you want, there's a documentary out right now that

just put it out. It's called Now you Know check it out. It's a documentary I put together. And now Netflix has called and they're interested of doing the whole movie. So that'd be crazy. Yeah, So you don't know, I might go into the movie business. You don't. That's my dream, like doing movies and stuff like that. I mean, shit, I feel like shit, now's the time, bro. Yeah. You I've also heard you allude to being around before you

were Gashy. Obviously, you're always gashy but before you were known as gashy on on a big lit level, being around a lot of the biggest artists in the world, but before they were the biggest artists in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, always and maybe either a giving them some sauce, helping them on records. Yeah, and always I've always have. So you've like, like, did you, like, was there ever a point in time where you were just writing for people or you were Yeah, I mean I was writing for people.

I was. I was. Let's just say, because I don't like saying too much good, especially about my past, I feel like I I feel like I feel like, if you're watching this interview, I want you to completely kill me, or kill the person that you knew of you of me, kill them completely because that old me is like officially expired. I'm officially somewhere else. But like, but like I like, I wrote I wrote music for people, Yes, I did.

I I've helped. I've helped so many people out and I've seen them become millionaires, blow up and forget me. And I've seen it so many times that I feel I feel nothing towards it. And when they see me, they can't look at me in my eyes. They look down so damn. I mean, it is what it is. I mean, it's not I feel bad for them. I don't feel bad for myself anymore. I feel bad for them because they've completely lost themselves. I feel bad for them,

you know, they've completely killed themselves. You know what I'm saying. And I'm you're you're, You're still you. I'm still me. And I could look into a mirror and know that that's me. I don't have to put on an act that I'm not worried. I could sleep at night without taking no drugs. I'm fine, Like you know what I'm saying. So I feel bad for them, you know, And I'm sure every time I see them, they they they wish

that it never happened. That's fair. I mean you also too have like I feel like, you know, there's very few in the in the music industry. There's a lot of acquaintances, right, There's a lot of people that we come in contact with. They're like, yeah, I'm cool with them, like, you know, yeah, let's get up, let's work never happens, let's do lunch. Right, But there's like very few friends like and I feel like DJ Snake is one of those guys for you. Yes, my brother man, and I

know you guys creatively have had a sick history. Yeah, he's my guy. He's my guy, Snake, Snake's my guy. Man. Who else on that like? Who else is on that list? For you? The reason why people don't understand the reason why I'm so close with Snake has nothing to do with just the music. I think I had to warrant for my rest and I had gotten into trouble in New York, and I don't want to get too deep into it because you know, thankfully the case got dropped and I don't want to bring you back up. It

was a nightmare. And yeah, I handled my business, you know, as a as a brother, you know, I handled my business. Someone attacked my sister and I handled my business and do what you're supposed to do exactly. And I think I handled my business and took it a little too far, so I had to escape the country and go to Iceland. So what year was this? This was two thousand and fifteen. Shit, Yeah, So I basically handled my business and I needed to

bail money and DJ Snake put the money up. When all my friends then and pick up the phone and want to give me money. So I'm loyal to that man even if he pulls some weird shit, I'm still loyal to him based on what he did. He held you down. Yeah, he helped me down at that point where I needed him. So you know, that man could that man could shoot me, and I still want to be mad at him. So so I mean there's very

very rare friendships that have man. Yeah, Iceland, what I mean, I feel like Iceland is a country that is not icy. Oh it is called what what was it like? Like like because you're you're you, I feel like you originally like a lot of your core fan base was overseas. Still right, He's just a huge following overseas. Like nineteen eighty four had just changed everything. Nineteen eighty four had

just changed everything. Now I'm having fans in America. Well you have fans in America, of course, but like it's getting what you're saying, it's getting to that point where it's like I can't go to Starbucks. Yeah that's in America anymore. So it's like it's becoming where it's like becoming super successful on both areas, which is weird because I loved feeling like a celebrity in Europe and then coming back. It's just trying to be able to just relax,

turn it off, you know, snake. I love Chris Brown. Chris Brown is Chris Brown to me, is the most talented super artists. We all right, check this out. A lot of people are gonna not understand what everything you're about to say. I think I say all the time about him. Go ahead, Okay, so people gonna get upset, but suck, suck my dick. I don't care. The thing is we judge the man based on his past of what he's done, and fuck you, like, okay, we all make mistakes, right, I don't think as a human being.

See like, we have legends like the Beatles and stuff like that. You know, we have Michael Jackson, we have the We have legendary artists, and I love that we do have that on Earth. It's amazing. But nobody can last with Chris Brown and on the dance floor or keep up with him musically, or Chris Brown will dunk on your favorite artists and put his balls on their fucking head. Chris Brown will outdance them. Chris Brown will

out sing them. Chris Brown will outdo them anyway. Chris Brown will fuck your favorite artist bitch in front of them, and they won't do nothing to Chris Brown is one of the greatest fucking things that's ever happened in history of the world on Earth. This man, I've seen Chris Brown flow in the air, like float in the air. I'm being serious. I've seen Chris Brown float in the fucking air with Timberland's on in a bubble jacket, stay

in the air for six seconds. I've seen Chris Brown do things that a human is not supposed to be doing. Chris Brown is the most talented person. He's an alien and something's crazy, the fact that he's just too good

for Earth and just give him his flowers. Now he's made mistakes, Move the fuck on, you know what I mean, Move the fuck on, Like he's made mistakes and we get it, but like stop judging him off of that, Like let's talk about what he's bro so many hits, so much shit that this man does is so special and I apologize for getting crazy, but like, dude, like he is so talented and it's like people try to downplay it as if it's not there. It's like, yo, bro, the sky is fucking blue and you can tell me

it's any color you want, but but it's blue. But it's fucking blue. You know what I'm saying. You got all these fucking you know, the industry is full of shit shine, and that's that industry equals shit shine. What's shit shine? It's all these artists are shit and they shine it and they make you believe it's good. Chris Brown is not shit shine. Chris Brown is what happens when you give money to an actual talent artist. I

always say this about Chris Brown. He's probably the most talented human being that has ever that we've ever seen, because, like you said, not only is he the best dancer, he could he could paint a mural on the side of his house. Bro. You know what I'm saying, Like his the level of artistry and talent, Like you could say whatever you want about him, but talent wise, there's

nobody we've ever seen that's on his level. No, And so I've been seeing like, and no disrespect to Drake because Drake is obviously a Jedi, but like I've been seeing like a tweet going around that a think fat joke called Drake like r Michael Jackson. I'm like, no, it's Chris Brown. Like Chris Brown. And unfortunately, like you said, there's like a tainted or a still around Chris Brown

when those conversations happen. But it's crazy when he is literally the most talented human being that's probably ever made music. He can do everything better than everybody. Everybody and he can paint, he could play basketball. I've seen that. So I've been working with Chris Brown on this Breezy album coming out, and he's incredible. And I've never seen an artist go in the booth without writing anything. I thought

I was the only one who did that. And the only reason why I started doing that was because I used to work with Nipsey and he taught me that. I had a session with Nipsey and I saw he didn't write, and then I started doing that way I would say something cut and then punch in, and the way Chris Brown records, like you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not gonna get too deep into topic, but he's

just so talented that it's a shame the world. It's a shame how the world tries to like downplay it as if like right like after this interview, there's gonna be people on the comments or people gonna be in my tweets on my Instagram bitching goat me, and it's just gonna be full of fucking people that are like got nothing going on in their life and they're coming at me because of what I said. You know what

I'm saying. It's much of those idiots. But like, like I just I just want I want to give Chris Brown as flowers well he can still smell them, and I just want to continue to do that. And I want to also say, like, as somebody, I've been critical of Chris Brown's personal decisions throughout the years, and I'm not even necessarily like like I'm a grown ass man, so I'm not like riding around bumping Chris Brown a

lot of times. Like I'm not like the biggest fan of like Chris Brown, but you got to acknowledge he is an alien, bro, Yeah, exactly, Like exactly can you not watch this and you know there was this versus battleship and I'm like, at you know, I was thinking, like Chris Brown versus Usher, but like Breezy has a bag that like he could get into that, like he can do sixty records like yo, man, what I'm saying, yeah he could, like yo, the features, the like just

the rapping shit, like the versus thing, right, you're talking about that? Yeah, Like I don't think anybody could beat Chris Brown. In the verses. It goes back to what I was saying, maybe Drake, but I know, no, no, but I'm saying that like that might be the the only like no way, but I think I'm glad that he turned that ship down. I'm telling you there's no way, There's no way, No Drake, no nothing, nobody, nobody could out beat Chris Brown. Nobody from Deuces to No No No.

But I'm just telling you he's incredible. He just floated out a Young Thug collab album song with no rollout and Go Crazy. You know, just in number one on rates, Say You Love Me is one of the most incredible songs on that project. Go Crazy is incredible. He continues to make hits, He continuous effortlessly, is so light work for him. I just I just you know, we're gonna

move on. But Chris. I love Chris and I think I think he's incredible and he's one of my friends and and I'm so thankful to say he's called me. He checked up on me during the pandemic, make sure my family's good. Always checks up on me, like such a such a big hearted person, you understand. And he's incredible. Another person that's really dope is Squirlex, nice guy. Sonny's a sweetheart man. But you know Adele, Adele is incredible, incredible,

big heart, big hearted person. How crazy is it that like Adele, who's again one of those people who might have like maybe the best voice we've ever heard, like maybe like top five. Yeah, it's like like the last icon, like Jesus Christ, Like you know, that's like another one we were talking about, like when someone so talented, like that's the right person who got the deal and got the money, Like holy shit, Yeah, she's one of the

greatest singers of all time. Yeah, but these are these are the people that are like incredible, incredible, incredible people, incredible. You and Adele have a solid relationship. She's she's she's the person that I met them friends with. She's awesome. I like Sam Smith. Sam Smith is cool. Well, so I'm friends with I'm friends with I know, I know French always you know Fresh Montana French. What about the

other big Albanian in music? You and Action got any sort of So me and Action Bronson made a song together. He's supposed to be on the Gashy album. He's supposed to be on My Interlude mm hmm, and yeah, I I never put it on the album. And you guys are both like such great dudes. I love him. He's incredible. Shout out to him. He's losing weight, getting his health together and he's so he's a special soul man. I so he was supposed to be on the album. Yeah.

I got together with Action Bronson as as as Loft and in Queens and I was watching his paintings because I paint as well and he paints. So he was just smoking weed there and he was like we were like we knew each other. First time I met him, it was me, him and R Kelly and we were just hanging out in Manhattan. Yeah, it was just Yo, that sounds like an amazing just one day recreate that

into Yeah, it was just so weird. There was like something that Noisey was doing and we were there and then we didn't really get a chance to talk but he always showed me love and always gave me like a heads up and always talked to me. And the second time we met, I met it. We met up on the street. He knew about me, he knew I was our beaning coming up. And he's very competitive action bronze. He don't like keeping people around him. His circles super tight.

So he sees his other alband guy. He's like, I don't know how I feel about this. Boom boom boom. So I'm popping off my years going off. I'm all over for Times Square. So he invites me. He's like, okay, he's boom man. Let me just bring him and see what's up. So I go to his apartment, smoking weed, having a conversation with me. His leg is broken or something and he's just going through it. And you know him the eighties album, not the album that was coming out,

but I played him and they just loved it. He's like, you're not a rapper and I was like I'm not, and he's like, ship, I thought you were a rapper and then he opened up and like you're just the sweetheart. He's like he's the best. He's the fucking best. I love him and he cut this verse for me and I never got we never got a chance to make the album because it was so late. But I still have it and it's just it's it's just it's so funny.

It's like it's gonna play it. It's exclusive. No one's ever heard this sounds hard, bro, Yeah, this is all it is the interlude of the outro to my first Just the outro to my first Gashy album sounds like a sample. It's not. Definitely must make sure you get that Gashy album because uh, a lot of people slept on the outro. This song was incredible. Shout out to

Logan Hide it's smooth. Hey say hey, now what brass the floor like Michael Chasing at the Super Bowl, rab My crass on the believe the saying Bosh, I need like fifteen hands for all these damn watches, but no time for noise. Bitch, I'm not playing. I'm not saying who I did time when I would not say you will live a find it on the yacht. We ain't no me either. Convenge a Sweeter with their hair cut, double headed eagle on their hand, the lood the heat up.

Hey I do this for my freedom up until I meet a Leah go be acting crazy throwing bosses at a movie because says that has been show. I'm smoking till my thumb stop paring it. That's the you know, I'm stronger in the sty of brothers put together. Run to that's my old dish, like some skin off the snake, and I can see the moon in the date time. I'm like, just like myself, a Sion would a Creaki. Listen, man, you gotta figure out something to put that verse on, bro,

because that's that's one of them action verses. He didn't just give you a throwaway, bro. I think he realized that was a moment. Yeah, it was a moment man, cause he came through. He did strong as both the Steiner brothers. Man, come on, bro, he's as I rise like Michael Jackson at the That's the way to start a verse, Yeah, he said, he said, hand on the heat of what the two headed Eagle, which is our band thing. You know what I'm saying. That's crazy. Are

you gonna? Are you gonna? I mean, you gotta repurpose that verse, man, You never know. I got I gotta look up action man. I gotta that ship is fire. It is. And you know what, man, I I love him, dude, I love him, I respect him, and and I'm so proud of him. And he's losing weight now again. Yeah man, he's getting shit together and congratulations on his son. And he's all, you know, for the record, like he's always

like had his ship together. It's not like but you know, I just think that, you know, we all have our vices, and food for me is my vice mine too, but he always had this shit together. But like, just to see him trying to be like healthier to live for his son, it's a beautiful to beautiful things then. And I'm just proud of him, you know, I love him. I love to see my people do well. And and I'm winning. I'm not. I'm not. This not a conversation of me as a loser. A lot of people say

nice things about people when they're losing. I'm actually a fucking winner right now. This is me talking as a winner talk and and and yeah, I would love to see you guys officially do something. I mean, you guys have done something. Yeah, But I just think Action is one of my favorite rappers and yeah that's dope, yo. Look man, quick break from the podcast to tell you about odd Socks. All right, they're our official sponsor. They support what we do here at the boutleg cap podcast.

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out to odd Socks. You spoke about how you meeting Nipsey changed your life. Yeah, kind of obviously. You know Nipsey is one of the greats Rest in peace, man, He's a close friend of mine. Still can't believe, man, it's about to be two years next year in March. What what was your interaction with Nipsey and how did

that affect you? Because the energy, you don't think that's crazy, The fact that like I'm the I'm becoming one of the pop artists, like one of the big pop artists, like I'm becoming like I'm becoming like Phil Collins, like the New York Times of Phil Collins, the whole other

type of pop we're talking too. Yes, yeah, like like timelessless iconic pop, right, and I'm becoming that and uh so say okay, so say this, right, say Gashy becomes the new like George Michael, Phil Collins, sting of this generation where I'm like timeless and everyone's like coming to my shows a sold out. I'm like, I'm like, I'm doing the Brooks Out like twice, like Sola Garden twice,

becoming legendary. Kids are losing their mind. I'm becoming like fucking insane, right to say, there's videos of me and Nipsey in the studio after that. How insane is that story? You know? I think it's a it's a you know, your come up man, It's it's insane coming up as a rapper out of New York. It's insane. It's crazy. You know. I met this guy through a shout out

to my friend Austin Rosen. He made it possible. He brought Nipsey to the studio and Austin Austin managers post Alone, Like he's like he's the reason for Postmone being as big as he is. Austin Rosen brought Nipsey to his studio, brought me in, played the record. Nipsey loved it, told me I was dope enough to really make it happen. And after I met Nipsey Nipsey, I felt it was real and I could drop out and make it happen.

He made me feel that way. So you met. So Nipsey was coming in to lay a verse for you or just to work. And so Nipsey came into the studio with this guy named Johnny and yeah and yeah. Austin was like, I want to get Nipsey on this record. I want to play him the record. So we played in the record. He's like, Yo, this ship is tight, this was your record, this is my record. Yeah, and then we got Nipsey was like this is fire. Just

jumped in the booth, cut it real quick. And then he's telling me you know, I mean like I was telling them like I really want to do this shit, and he was like, oh, yes, this ship fire, bro, like you can do it, and like like Nipsey was my favorite upcoming rapper so I was telling Austin about him. I was like, I get him on a verse, like it's nothing, because he was just coming up so you could get Nipsey on the verse, you know, And because I looked at I was looking at Nipsy like our

generation Snoop. Yeah, you know what I think when he first came out, that was kind of like they look very similar. They look similar. They're both very similar, not similar, but they had very each of them had a very distinct tone. Yeah, and they look like, you know, they look like he's a crip and right he was just so hard, like skinny with the plaids and the genes at the converse, like it was just so snoop. And I was like, Yo, this guy's gonna be our Snoop,

our icon. And I was like he's gonna be the biggest And everybody around me's like, what the hell are you talking about? Dog? I was like, yo, can I get him on a verse? Like I can make that call. That's nothing, you know what I mean? Everyone around is like it's not a big deal. But I think I think, you know what, like not to toot my own horn, man, but I think I have the vision to see somebody in twenty years, to see somebody in ten years, to see somebody. I could look at somebody and know if

they're gonna be somebody or not. Music business, Yeah, man, Nipsey was one of those guys. The first time I met him was in O nine. He came in freestyle on my show in Boise, Idaho, when I was doing radio and Boise Wow. That was my first full time job, crazy and killed it. Yeah. He had a mixtape out called Bulletin Got No Names. Oh I love that. I love still still play it. Yeah, Part one and two right two is my ship Roll the Windows Upside? Oh my god. But yeah, rest in peace to Nipsey. You

mentioned being around Austin early. I feel like generic fans of music might compare you in Posty together. Yeah, just because you guys have a lot of tattoos, because we're both at white boys. Fair enough. What like were you around post early on? Yeah? I mean I was friends with post I was friends with Austin. I was friends

with them. We'd ride around in my mom's car and like play music, and we had like very similar taste, Like we liked the same shit and early on, like you said that you could see uh kind of people ahead of their time. Did you did you see Posts like and be like, you know, hey, this guy could be one of the biggest artists in the world. I didn't see that Post. I knew that. I knew he was a special soul, Like he's a good dude, he's a great guy, and he was just a special energy

and like we'd laugh, you know, he's this kid. Was this prior to him moving to La He moved to LA already at the time, but like, you know, we just drive around my mom's car and listen to the iPod and he'd played me his stuff and we play He was in my video, his my first video. You know, it was just weird, Like you know, yeah, I think me and Post he kind of faded off when people

started comparing us and it became weird. So like I feel like that's somebody who you know when you talk about like y'all was around a lot of the biggest artists early on. Like do you feel like you might have maybe had some sort of influence on Posts early on? I don't know, I you know, I don't know did that first already him? You probably know Charlie Handsome Ryan, Yeah, I love Charlie Han. Yeah. So Ryan, like like Ryan's

from Phoenix, where I'm from. Yeah, and he had reached out to me, like when I was doing radio on Tampa in twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen, and it was like dude White iverson I'm at the time. Ryan was telling me he was managing post Yeah, I mean everybody was. Everybody was managing posting some dre you know whatever. But yeah, yeah, yeah, It's just it's interesting because I do feel like you guys, like you like what you just said about his energy

and what I said about your energy earlier. Yeah, we have We're very similar, you know, we're very similar. We smile a lot, and we have similar music taste and what we like singing and hitting such the same similar melodies. And you know, it's another reason why like I'm happy at this eighties album is because like you can't compare me to anybody, to anybody when I sing the way

I do with the eighties stuff. And you know, you know, Poster is around, and you know a lot of artists, you know, like even with Khalid Man, you know, like Khalid I was driving around Khalide played me his first album before he became anybody you know. Wow. Yeah, I feel like Khalid is another one of the early Spotify success stories exactly like I was. Just I was blessed enough to be around all these artists and learn from them as well as much as they learn from me.

I learned from them, and I'm so happy that my career is going the way it is. I've I think nineteen eighty four might be the time. I think nineteen eighty I think this interview is the last interview I do before I get ruined. Well, do try not to get ruined. When you say get ruined, what do you mean, actually specify? Like I might blow up and just become generic and become Walmart. If it happens the right way, I might become Target. Do you want? I mean, that's

not what I want. I have no choice. I have no option. That's true. It's almost like once you blow up, it's like I feel like I just I felt this way about the baby, right, so the baby. I've been a fan of the baby for a long time before anybody who the fuck he was. We interviewed him twenty seventeen. This is when he was doing his diaper shit at south By Southwest I fucked with his music because he was talking about moving packs and selling weed and like I come from that world, so I was like I

related to his shit. Yeah, And like now I'm not excited to hear new music from the baby anymore because he's so big that I kind of just like I'm like, Okay, well, like what I loved him for, he's not really doing anymore, Like I'll hear the shit I need to hear. Yeah, but it's just like he's like target now, yes, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what

it's like. And it's not and it's not like he's not making dope shit still, it's just like, you know, it's like what you just said, It's like it's not up to you. It's not you know, and if you with any amount of certain commercial success, like that just kind of happens. That happens. Yeah, Like my boys little sister is like like she was the biggest Billie Eilish fan and now she's fucking Walmart and now I'm like, yo, Billy dropped a new song. I'm not really into Billy anymore.

We mentally do that. Kanye I think was the last artist for me that like, just because like what we talked about earlier with him, where would be like, I just want I can't wait to see what he's doing. Even I feel like Travis to a certain extent, but like Kanye, I've lost that with him recently because I really was not a fan of the Jesus King shit.

And yeah, I'm like I said, man like, but Kanye like became Walmart, but didn't like it was the Walmart I wanted to go to exactly exactly exactly, like can go buy some fucking cargo shorts and a video? I just I don't remember the last time I felt the way I felt when I turned the TV on and I saw Kanye West wear on leather performing black Skinhead. That hasn't happened for me in a very long time. And that's all I'm gonna say. I'm gonna leave it

at that. No one's impressive. I love Travis Scott good day. He does what he does and that's amazing. But I can't wait to see if he changes his sound. You understand what I'm saying. I'm just not looking like the last time where you were like fuck, when was the last time you said shut the fuck up? Don't talk to me. My headphones are on. I am gonna be focused right now. When was that that has never happened? You listen to it like, oh here we go generic

shit again. Now. I think when we're talking about the upper echelon of artist I don't disagree with you. I think that, you know, there's artists that I'm like that with, but they're like some boom bab like yo, fucking west Side guns, pray for Paris is out Let me the fuck alone, you know what I mean. But you love that. It's good. That's good that you still find something that you love. You know, you like that. I mean, you

know you have to. I feel like I feel like I'm doing that for my fans right now, and that's what makes me happy. My fans are like, shut up, he's dropping something and I'm gonna listen to it because I know it's going to be a different sound, and that's what I got to continue to do it. The minute I stop doing yeah, the minute I stop doing that, it's over for me. Dog. Hey, look, I also think that there's a good chance that we look back at this interview in a year and that your project, let's say,

you know, like you said, influential. People are loving it, so we might look back in a year and like the eighty sound is going to be all over a bunch of people. Shit, you know what I'm saying, Like, now, will you get the credit for it? Probably not, I

never do, but you know, I mean, we'll see. But I can definitely see, like even just the sonics of like the production and shit, you know what I'm saying, Like I could see like people tapping in with at now because they're like, oh, oh, exactly, this can work exactly. I mean, you know what one thing I admired about reading in all the magazines after I dropped the album

was authentic, real original. The words that I was looking for was these artists released sounding similar, sounding, eighty sounding, but not authentic copycats. And you read what I'm what they write about. My shit, it's authentic, real original. And that's the things that I was looking for. And that's I hit it on the head. Where I was did it was not sound looking at copycat, and I made a sound that people loved and was original. I brought that.

I brought a sound that was modern eighty sound. You and I are movie buffs. You said something earlier, how the movies aren't the same anymore, And they're not. But what's the last movie? You say all that, like you really really fucked with where you were, like, yeah, this is a this is a special one right here for me, it was uncut gems. Now, I also happen to be I'm a degenerate sports gambler, So I related to that movie. I hate something crazy. It was a very stressful anxiety anxiety.

If you watch that movie and you've lived that, you're like the only the best part about that movie was having It's got a cool KG. He was a great actor in it. But the best part it was my boy Greg. You know, Yeah, he's a great he's an amazing jeweler. It's incredible. He's one of my great friends. And he believed in me. I love him and uh, but yeah, that was that movie. I'll tell you the story after we stopped this interview. Oh about that movie? Yeah,

I'll tell you specific movie. Yeah, I'll tell you a crazy story. What are you a sports gambler? No? No, but I'll tell you a crazy story. Like, no, but what was that? What was the last movie for you? You saw that? Like you like that, You're not okay, this is this is this is fire like not fire like you know at the because it's on Netflix, but like just some ship that you're like, oh, this is some shit I'm watching twenty years Oh wow, if any

I don't know. Man, like the movies recently, I don't know, dude, Like it's like difficult, like I watch only old movies. I don't really. I watched the New Ones, but I don't care. Bad Boys three was kind of trash. It's horrible. She was terrible. Man, all this ship is garbage. All right. People hated it. I'm saying. Let me just say this. People hated the Queen movie. Okay, Bohemian raapsy, Yes, they hated it. Everyone hated it. I actually liked it. I

liked it, and dude killed it. The actor killed it, yeah, at the Museum. I don't know his name. Yeah, that was a good movie. Is the Elton John movie? Not so much? Your shout out to Elton John? Actually he's a he's a legend. I was. You know, that's one of my biggest inspirations. When I shoot videos, they try to look like him. Okay, what do you think of that movie? It was good, it was I just think they should have gave a heads up saying it was

a musical. True, we ain't get no heads up. You just like saw the trailer and you like diving here, you go in there and it's like, oh shit, it's a musical. But I love that and John and I love him very much. And if he didn't exist, I don't think i'd be here honestly, because he's influenced me so much. What about are you? Like, like, are you a big TV guy? Like do you binge watch series and ship? Like? Man, I'm right now watching Fresh Prince Bell there runs and I love you know, my favorite

cartoon is Hey Arnold. Hey Arnold was fire. Yeah, I got the tattoo on my leg. But yeah, I love Hey Arnold so much, you know, and Doug two of the most slept on. Yeah that was cool. I never really got into it like that, but like, hey Arnold is my ship, Like, Hey Arnold is my ship. Rocket Power is my ship. But like I just rewatched The Wire with my wife. Oh the Wire. I was friends with the guy Panama back then. He always believed in me. I have the weirdest connections in the world. I'm friends

with the weirdest people I really am. I'm friends with, I'm friends I'm connected with. I've been through the crazies. My life is insane. My life is insane. I'm friends with the most that you would never think I'm friends with these people. Yo, man, I mean, I didn't know you were on the run in Iceland. That's fucking crazy. I know, Iceland, but yeah, but an interesting place to choose to go to, I know. But life. Life is crazy right now, you know. And I still can't believe

where we're in. This situation we're in, you know. But no one can run away right now, and that's what's scary. We're trapped in the world right now. And twenty twenty is the new nineteen eighty four. And if you ever read George, if you ever yeah, if you ever read the Orwell book, it's kind of crazy the fact that I dropped the nineteen eighty four album after I recorded it in twenty fifteen now because these other dark times we're living in, and I think I prayed that we're

still alive after the elections. Election is going to be interesting. Man, It's going to be like you said, it could be the It feels like it could be like the climax to the end of the world, yeah, or the end of the world as we know it. Yes, So I'm just happy that I released a project. I saw my billboard on Sunset across the street from the chateau, which is all that. Yeah. Yeah, because my third album is going to be recorded in the chateau. Ok. Yeah, so

this is exclusive stuff that I'm telling you. Actually, I've never told anyone. Third album was recorded on in the chateau because of John Belushi. That's where he passed. Yeah, and he's a big, big influence and big inspiration because he was the first Albanian male in Hollywood. Wow, I didn't know that. I didn't even know he was. He was Albanian. Ye have him tattered on me as well? And you know, have you met his brother? Yes, I'm actually from Jim. Yeah, Jim. Jim had a run too,

man that you know. I've had lunch with him in friends with his kids and stuff, like we talked on Instagram. So you and the Belushi's got some some uh some some genuine relationship. Yeah, I've met them, met his brother a couple of times. But as far as like John, like John Store, John just probably a lot of inspiration as a kid, being like, yo, somebody from where I'm from, Yeah, has made it into Hollywood. It's never happened. I mean, look at the Albanian artists and Dua Lipa. You know,

I didn't even know Alpa was Albanian. But then again, it doesn't matter. Look what you're saying, I don't listen to do but hold on though, Look what you're saying. Did you know rider or it was? I did not exactly what you're saying, did you. Yeah, we'll ended there. So there's like I just think it's dope that you wrap that shit like you know what I'm saying. I think it's important. Make sure make sure that you send

me that clip exactly what just happened right now. Send it to me because I want to post that on my social media because see, my country right now is not on the map on Apple. Apple's not putting my country on a map Kosovo, And you got all these girl artists right now saying complaining that they should put it on the map. How are you expecting anyone to put anything on a map if you never put it on a map, if you don't talk about it, if you hide where you're from and you're hiding because you

want to be cool. I've been wrapping where I'm from since I came in his business. Nothing's changed. I have that shits tattered. I have Kosovo on my belly, I have it on my hand. You have to see it. I can't hide it. You understand, they don't rep it and now they don't have us on a map. And it's because you never repped it. And I'm not saying dual leap because du A Leapa has been repping it and she's slowly. She's from London as well, but like a lot of the other girls, they don't rep a shit.

So I'm a I'm a little so as a kid obviously, I remember just on the news the Kosovo conflict that was when Clinton was president. Yeah, I'm not educated, so you could educate me. Albania Kosovo is close, like like kind of is. We're basically brother and sister. You know what I'm saying the same thing. I'm just trying to you know, it's the same thing basically, but Coastvo it's his own country, but Serbian Kosovo have gotten into it

because of Lange and we got out independence finally. But they still are not acknowledging us as a country on the Google maps and putting us they're putting us as a number. Wow. You understand that's a problem because we did get out in dependence. We are a country. A coast vote is our country. The other thing that pisses me off is the fact that, you know, we shared the flag with Albania, we shared the same flag, and then now we have our blue flag, which is like

a blue and yellow flag. And I don't really respect that because I because my people died for that flag, and now you've given us independence but a new flag. It's like, it's not It's like, you know what I mean, It's like put a band aid over a cut, you know what I'm saying. But you know, I want us to be respected as a country, and I want us to be put on a map. Nothing hurts me more in my heart. It's like every time I land in Coastovo, I feel like I'm getting stabbed in the throat. Every

time my iPhone says welcome to Serbia. Wow, because I have families that died. They died, you know what I'm saying. Sorry about that. It's all good, man, I mean, I do feel like I have families that died for this country to be acknowledged. I have families, family members, and my people died, my people have been raped, my people have been started, and they've been through a lot for this country. And now you're not putting us on a map.

What type of bullshit is that? You know what I mean, We've been through it all and we deserve to be respected and acknowledged as a country. I think it's important to educate people on that, because, you know, we just had somebody, my boy Armine from Armenia, was kind of educated me on you know how a lot of people don't acknowledge the Armenian genocide and a lot of people

just don't know, you know. And I think that with the Kosovo thing, like for me, I just kind of have, like I guess, a generic remembrance of being a kid and seeing the news seeing that there was a conflict there, but I don't necessarily know. I don't really know what happened outside of their you know, just seeing Clinton, I think, what did US aid Kosovo? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, man, we're gonna talk about that when the cameras we just you know, at the end of the day, like no, no, no no,

I get now what you said. I just don't want to get too deep into it because we'll be in a rabbit hole fever. Like what I'm saying to you is, you know, every day I fight for my music, but at the same time, I don't want to forget my roots and where I'm from. You know, even though my people at times could be super toxic on me because that one day I don't rep or say I'm from Kosovo, they just come down on me so much. Any mistake

I make, they come down on me. And it's because you know, sometimes your people are hard on you else everyone else. You know what I'm saying. So but I've been repping and your proof of that saying yo, I always knew you were all banning because I've been saying it since the beginning of my career, you know. And yeah, I'm changing. I'm changing that. And I just think, you know what, man, I love my country because they keep

me alive. You know, once America is over with Gashi and they move on to the next act, my country is going to keep me alive forever. And that's what keeps Drake popping because Canada loves him and That's what keeps Yanna popping because she her country loves her. That's what keeps Kendrick popping because La loves him. You know what I'm saying. Once you have your hometown, you can get the whole world and you will always be relevant. You always make money because people know you have roots

to someplace. When you come and you don't have love in your own country, and you think you get popping in a different city, you'll get popping five minutes and be out and you're done. You're done. I love my people. I read for my people. You know what I'm saying these pop artists. This is why I love Jimbnushi, and this is why my third album is so about him. It's about me going fully Hollywood. It's about me going fully pop because he's the only male Albanian to ever

be allowed in Hollywood. You know how difficult it is to be accepted in Hollywood. You don't understand, especially in the eighties. Exactly, Yeah, right, I'm about to be accepted in Hollywood for the first time with his nineteen eighty four album and then my third one. I'm fully gonna be Hollywood, fully be celebrity, right, you know, what I'm saying. So you said, like the Target Walmart reference exactly. This

might be the last thing. So it's a big deal when you have eight girls right now on the Billboard charts that are Albanian that are killing it and I'm the only male Albanian to ever do it in America. Ever, they will ever. You don't know when next time you'll see me. I'm a total different beast. You will never, you will never. This might be the last time you ever see anything like this in your entire life. That's how crazy it is for my country. Super super super

super solid, super super duper solid people. You can't even wear a pink shirt around someone super aggressive, manly man. To see me do pop music and dance the way I do, To be acknowledging El and John and be saying dressing up with my pants the way they are and doing it's like such a culture shock. What is this kid doing? Y is he talking to the kids for my country? Like it's all right to accept everyone for who they are, to write to do this, it's a right to not being a gangster throwing up gangs

signed shooting people. I'm on New York Times, not because I caught bodies because of my music. It's a total different thing that my country's never seen before. The kids are looking at me like, what the hell. I don't have to kill someone to be famous, Like I'm totally going in a different direction. And a lot of people are trying to close doors on me that are in the Hollywood, but they can't because I'm fully in now. I'm officially in now. You can't stop it anymore. And

I earned my way in. I wrote every single song with my bare hands. You can't stop it. I made it. This is why it's a big deal for my country. This is why it's a big deal for a male like me to be in there. Because I'm teaching all the kids rather they're gay, rather they're they're into like pop music. Rather they're actually into the color pink and are probably straight that maybe they're into the things that they're not supposed to be into. I'm trying to teach

them that they're it's okay. It's okay to like, it's okay to yourself to be yourself. It's okay to like the things you like. It's okay. And that is what I'm doing. And I think it's the biggest moment for my country. Well, I guess we ended on that, man, nineteen eighty four. Nineteen eighty four, go get it, Go get it and buy some merch. Yeah, by merch at Goshi world dot com support man, you know what I mean.

And I always donate, rather it's Global Citizen or a different foundation, I'm always I'm always donating again, and that that third album is already I'm assuming it's already in the works. Yeah, already. Yeah. So are you gonna please watch my documentary called Now you know it's on YouTube watch? Yes? Yes, And bootlet keV thank you so much. You've always showed me love. I appreciate you, man, And uh, it just feels good. Feels good to be here, feels good to

be alive. It feels good. Yeah. This is why I didn't want to do zoom man, because this is the conversation we got to have. We couldn't have this conversation. I mean, I got I got COVID tests. We have proof. I got COVID test. I believe you. I'm just saying like, this is why I was, like, dude, I know that me and him have legendary there's a legendary conversation to be had. We can't do that over like thove, gentleman, he is negative. Negative. Did the COVID test before I

got here. I was very I didn't want to. I know you have a family that I didn't want to bring that to your family. I want to do trying to take care everybody. But yeah, negative on COVID. I've been having a lot of fun since my album came.

I don't want to bring that here, but albums out, documentaries out, a lot of things is on the works, and I'm just so thankful to even be here, to even have you interview me or and I I thank you for coming, man, because I feel like, you know, you're like I said, man, your energy is incredible, your

story is incredible. And as much I'm glad you did the documentary because I feel like that's something that people need to see and it's you know, I think that you have a very inspirational story and anytime you know, I can help help give you a platform to tell it or you know, be a part of it. You want right now, right now, you know what I'm saying. Right now, what's up? This is goashy and uh shout out to Bootleg keV, thank you so much for having me and uh, I'll see you in the future. Shout

out Joey franchise too. Shout out Jolly Franchise. I love you guy,