#123 - Adam22 & AD

for fucking ever. Eighty is a great guy. There was like a little miscommunication. I wouldn't even call it a miscommunication. There was a part on a show that Adam and ad did that A lot of people sent me that made it seem like Adam was throwing shade towards me. Not the case. Clearly. Here he is on the show afterwards. Uh, dope interview. Lots of talk about porn and politics and all kinds of shit. So let's get into it. Adam twenty two ad on the Bootleg Cab podcast, brought to

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Fuck all the mother sock companies. Man, all right, let's get into the interview with Adam twenty two and a d All right, well, listen, we're rolling ladies and gentlemen officially the Blueleg Cap Podcast Special guests in here. Yeah, my guy, ad my guy, Adam twenty two, always dancing what ad Oh Hey, I want to thank you for taking him out of the club. Thank you, Thank you for pointing that out. Nobody ever gives me. I got him off alcohol, I got him in a healthy relationship.

I got him in the podcast studio. He's not in confident anymore. Thank you, keV Man. This guy right here would be at I don't know how I could go to three clubs in a night and this motherfucker would be at every single one with a section. I'm like, bro, what you got clones or some shit. I still haven't made it to one with him. I'll be in San Diego, he's in the club. I'll be in Scottsdale. He's in the club. The showy boy. What the fuck? Ad Hey man, it's riding that juice bag for how many years? He

do he come through? Performed juice man? I got a few grap you brou Hey, Bro, I would always see you in like random places, Bro, like basketball, charity games and ship I'm like this nigga cav is here, best by parking lot, shouts our guy. We won't mention his name. Shout outs to our best by guy, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he appreciate that we've been looking out. Hey, we made a run this week. Yeah, I mean he was Christmas the best by guy. He was just telling me he

got a designer guy. We got a designer guy too. I'm not interested to a designer. Shoutout designer, shout out the designer. Do you know the best by guy? Designer? Obviously, what's the worst Kanye signing? I like to point out, not Big Sean, it was designer anyway. Wow, you got to hit up dependent. He probably meant a lot of money anyway. You know what any of us have ever made crazy is Adam was supposed to be the first episode of the Blue Leg Cap podcast like three years ago. No,

he came to my house. No, I did. But did that never come out? It never came out. Oh so you was a fake one. No. What happened was Noriega. I announced I was gonna drop the ship, and Nori called me and was like, Yo, don't do nothing. I'm doing a drink drink Champs Network and I want you to be the first podcast. And we talked bro we like when we met about it like five times, and he was like, had some sort of negotiations going on and just never ended up wearing. I was just deflated

about the whole thing. And then the pan by then the album the interview was old. Yeah, it was like super old, and then like I recorded a few but I just don't believe I didn't notice. It didn't come out. I feel like I would normally. Was he bald, Yes, sick and yeah bald? Yeah for sure bald. Yeah. It was in my basement. Wow, I went there. I remember like walking in and just seeing like eighteen fucking pairs of little kids shoes in the entry, and I'm like, Oh,

this motherfucker got kids. So is he is it a kid or is he like fucking with a little person. No, it's I got two kids. Don't make it. So you know what I'm saying, M's a crazy guy. Most guys I know have at least a couple of midges living in the basement. That's what I'm saying. That's awesome just to know those kinds of people. I mean, hey, yeah, I mean did you just I feel like, did you just have a tiny person on the Have you done like a tiny person porno podcast? Yet? I had a

town on Joe a town. I talked to him in Tampa like in twenty fourteen, and it was very I felt it was when he was rolling with the big guy who was taking advantage of him, and like it was very obvious that that dude was like really in that kid's pockets. What was that big dude's name? Snacks? Yeah, And I was like this is super weird, Like, well, picture of this for me. Have you seen the show

sixty Days in the prison show? It's amazing prison show where they put all these hidden cameras in the prison and everything and it's so good in this Netflix. Yeah, that's where I saw it. And there's this one guy, Abner, who was like the king of the Chicanos and he like I think it used to be a Latin king, and like, you know, did all those crazy shit shot people,

et cetera. Went in? Did time got out? And then he ended up being like basically one of the content essence on the show where you go undercover as a civilian in this prison and you basically live for like a couple of months as a prisoner. And so I look at my calendar and I realized, like, oh, my interview is not just with this dude Abner, It's with Abner and a town. And I'm thinking, oh, a Town's got to be like another prisoner from the show of course,

because that sounds like yeah, some street name. And then I hop on YouTube and I started starching it up and I'm like, a minute, this is the Bird guy. This guy you know, he was tight, he's a cool guy. He's anti bullying. Yeah, it's this whole thing. Bro. You know he can speak like full Mandarin brow the Bird, the Bird, I swear, Bro, he's smart as fuck? How did he learn? Why would be feeling bad for some

of these kids? Like you know you always see that one, the Gotham kid on like Hollywood Boulevard just looking like well man, Vegas and stuff. You know, it's vegas hed be getting them people laid though. He'd be like, oh you bring this up, man, you got well in the gray lad Nah, I got I got a town some masks before. Man, you know what I'm saying, I had to look out for the homie. Man, I'm just I'm keeping saying. He told me what keeping it. I just want to know, like what's the girl who's like me?

But like, what what's her story? Like? Why would she like like yeah, I fuck a town? I mean, I mean we was chilling. Are you an a town? Eskimo Brothers definitely technically yeah, we are Wow. Wow, you anta revisit that after a town was there though? Right? No, no no, no, you just leave that. I did it first and then they was just like you know what I'm saying. And she was just basically like, hey, like you know, I like I like the funk, and I do anything to tell me to do. And then he came in. I

was like the homie popping. She was just like, I want to fuck him to you know who was getting Who's getting pussy too? Was that little skinny long neck motherfucker too? What the other day a girl told me that she sucked his dick. I'm like, that's hard. Shout out to you for care. That's crazy. That's less. You know, clout it is big. It oversees everything. It's bigger than everything. They'll do it. No, for sure, that's crazy. Now we

were just talking about man, I couldn't. I could not, Like you know you, you have a lot of these women on your podcast, right, like Selena Power whatever right allegedly allegedly By the way, I want to just give you props the plug Talk podcast Great Idea, the only podcast of it's kind where we interview girls and then them, right, So you and talk dot horn man, you and your wife? Is this your you guys are officially married now, right, so you and your fiance slash baby mama. You guys

just had a baby. Shout to your lady. The podcast just launch was an episode three or four. Three just came out with Selena Powell. Uh, so we didn't suck her, we had a guy her. This is only fans exclusive only plug talk dot com. Uh, you go and you you interviewed the person and sex happens after. Yeah, is it like continuous off the interview, Like is it like the interviews, like all right, you know that great interview and then you just I mean I would kind of

like for it to be that scene. Or is it like a cut and then it's we do a little cut because we have to take the mics off because we're like wearing different mics, like for the interview part, and then we switched to like a boom mic for the sex part. So there is like a quick break there. But I would like to have it be totally seamless, with the girl a PLoP on top of the dick right right, seamless. But I think the seamless it would be kind of hard. Yeah, because no, no, no, no point,

no intended, no point proven mind around it. But how how's how's that going? I mean amazing we did. I honestly think we did our best scene yesterday with this girl Kenzie Ann, who is like a New Point star or whatever, and we just did an interview. She was a super cool, interesting person. My girl was like Hella into her, So it was that was great. I mean, honestly, sign you fucked. Uh. The Adriana I don't even know

how to say, Like her fucking videos are so fucking crazy. Bro. Yeah, she's like back in the day, there was like Bella Donna. You remember Bella Donna. Bella Donna was like that wild bitch used to take like Louisville slugger up her ass like she was like bitch had a shaved head. She was like back in the day. She was like in the bangbros are like to coll it. She was like

the nastiest bitch alive. She would have sucked anybody. She would have let Yeah, but but anybody, this Adriana chick is like, man, some of the ship she'd be doing is like physically unhealthy. Like that's all I like about him a horny dude, and he'll keep it. You want to know the coincidence, look at the skin pigmentation. Mother, he's not white. For the record. If you're gonna put him and his whole his people in the same bucket as mine from a totally different part of the world,

that just proves how arbitrary these racial labels are. Tell me what French and Irish and dark skin this is our out of I'm just not Mexican, but you're some kind of Spanish. I thought you were for something, he said. Fuck, oh that was great. I'm a white man. That's what I said. I'm German and Irish. My baby, my my, my maybe my and my wife is no, both of my both like my wife is. She's Latin, she's Mexican. That's why I thought I send your kids. I thought you had a black baby, Mama. No. I used to

always say care you know what I'm saying. He's still still minority, he's still with it. But this nigga acting like y'all light skinned white, dark skinned white man for hits you off that I know that you're what. I don't care. Now we got a lot pie you off. He thought she was Mexican. I just like Mexican is weird because I don't look Mexican. You don't look you don't look at Spang take everybody in Mexican. This is where I'm at. Noted, I mean, and also not a

bad you know. I mean, there's a percentile game there where you know you're you're gonna be right more times than than not, especially here. You know what I'm saying. It's a shot to my roses man, shout out to the rosses. Know. How was the Adriana chick? Did y'all do like some wild ship? Like? Is she like a normal human being? She honestly is very cool? Yes, that sex, but it was it was fun five dollars only plug

talk dot com, damn. And then and then the Patreon episodes are different, right, I got him acting different in there on the Patreon ship. Bro, he's crazy. Bro. He paddled some girl with a book, sprinkled potato chips and something. So y'all talk about some one of y'all camera man got their ass ate in or peg or something. Camera wasn't that ship? That was like he was filming. He was.

There's this YouTuber Danny Mullen and he said that he wanted to down episode and he had this filmer that he used this guy, cigar guy, and uh, cigar guy, I guess is in agating his butt fingered and so the girl Kazumi like was like fingering his ass. But then the crazy part about that, yeah, and uh that that like dude disappeared after this, Like nobody knows what happened to him. He probably fucking killed himself, got his

ass fingered. I mean, he knew he was being recorded, fell off the face of the Oh my god, crazy, right, what is that? Like? Was that couch get thrown away? That we clean it? And then some of the employees come and I think they clean it as well if they plan on sitting there, But just don't put your bear face on there. You're gonna get his sty Oh man, you're gonna get pink guy for sure. Sure, for sure,

for sure and the dead looks. I was gonna say, like, you know, Adam, you've kind of like done a good job of like turning No Jumper into like a world I'm trying man, right, Like you know, I feel like it started off with just you, you being the guy who were who was doing a lot of these early SoundCloud interviews, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I feel like you kind of made a pivot in the last like I was a year and a half where you just kind of went all in on like building

like a network or you know what I'm saying, Like a lot of efforts used to go into the store, and I feel like, you know, just dealing with the day to day chaos. So the store made it kind of hard for us to like, you know, work on that. But then honestly it was a d like when we brought him in. He is the first person that I put on camera that like really like like got into it and was like kind of hyped on doing podcasts

and ship. And I think it was also the pandemic because he normally would be off like doing a lot more shit, but he's kind of like, you know, stuck in the crib a lot for a few months there or whatever, even though he is realistically like the person who ignored the pandemic more than anybody. For sure, you never thought covid, did you? No? I never. We don't know. If I had to be money, I had to be money. I think you and OT would have it before anyone I knew. Yeah, bro, I probably got it first and

didn't know about Tommy game. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I remember we were talking, was like, Yo, how have you knock got COVID yet? Bro, you're fucking everywhere. I got a good squad now that we got great trail sharp perhaps on that. No, Duno is great working on some more. T Roll is the guy who used to roll with Tiger, right. Mm, that's a that's a that's a pun play bottom man. You know what I'm saying, shout out to pun man, bum ass rams, what you

call bum ass rams? The Rams there they lost to the Cardinals in l A shout out tiny cut. Hey, so how does that work? So like you get your cut of like like you give him a cut of his show? Or like how does how does every is everyone taking care of? Yeah? Yeah, it's like percentages of everything real handsomely, I'm not complaining. And then your show is called At the End of the Day formerly known as Tales from the Crypt. No, that's what idea for

me to have a show was totally different. He wanted me to interview like gang members, old gang members from all to be the Crypt LA basically was, Bro, but the lane is wide open. I was gonna let you do whatever you wanted. I just I was like, I was like, you know, you should talk to like these geez that like other people couldn't get on the podcast. And it turns out he would rather tell poop jokes we do know and make fun of Trell's arm and whatnot.

But I mean, you know, either way, there's the thing with his arm, right, I'm not crazy. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. He said it's gonna get surgery and it's not like a DJ Paul situation. But it's no, no, no. But he got like a motorcycle accident. It ain't work since then. Damn, that's rough. They talk about it on the podcast every every week. I think it was like so cruel, but he's just down. He's just okay. He's just used to it. I mean, we were talking crazy about each other on

the Wednesdays. No, I mean, listen, bro, I know how you are watched I've watched the show. I haven't watched it much lately with like t RELs because now he's like a regular on the show. Right, Yeah, No, I've seen it with Do because Duno has been on for a minute, right, yeah, yeah, come on around the SAME's hilarious, bro brow funny as yeah yea. So, like, let me

get this straight. So the Patreon ship is usually only fans chicks, right or just like some like ratchet ass like we're trying to make pluk talk more like poor really well known porn stars for the girls that we're managing. You're managing girls, Okay, we're managing a bunch of girls. Is this digital pimpin? This is digital management? Watch that p word for sure, let's not use that word. Yeah, so would you so is this like a Tiger, Like you know, Tiger's trying to do that ship? Right? I

would have. I don't know exactly what he's doing, but I would assume it's probably. So are you managing girls like OnlyFans accounts? Yeah, well, not like running their account, but we're like in charge of promoting them them and then putting them out there. What do you what's your percentage undisclosed? Nice? Seventy percent? Yo, this guy's if you're a seventy five? What does only fans keep? Like what is they keep? Twenty Yeah? So they keep whatever they

keep twenty percent? And then you get your your cut and then the girl's stuck with the pennies. I wouldn't say that we're making these ladies rich. Yeah, No, so like, uh, I think the first I think I ain't gonna say her name, but the first girl within a week she made what sixty grand? A month after that? Way more. That was like the first couple of days or something. Now yeah, because Skybree Skoy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, who are you managing? Are you managing that Asian girl that's always

on your ship? What's your name's Yeah, she makes a lot of money. Yeah, she makes a lot of mone. But she's like you think what the Adriana girl you said? Is she ain't doing Adriana type shit? No, she's worse. She said that she used to be doing like fifty guy game makes for fun back ship, but what is it?

But is it? On camera? When we were at Comboy Scan, she kept pointing out random guys like oh, he was at the gang bang And we're like, so this is real, like you were believe it since she showed me a polaroid. It was like thirteen fourteen white niggas. They was but ass nicking and it was hurt another girl on the bed, So I knew this shit was crazy. I couldn't. Uh, you know, I've had opportunities in my life to be

in those situations, right, I couldn't do it. Man, But you like them, You like the nigga white, You like, I can't do that ship this nigga, He's just like, come on, brots. If you had asked me back in the day to pull up to a fifty guy game, and I would have been like, oh, yeah, bet I'll do that. Yeah, see what time, what time? What's what

order of man? But I knew some dudes in New York that would be on that where they would like be like, oh yeah, you know, like Friday like me and like twelve, we got a hotel room and this bit shoes down to get ran through. It's like fifty bucks each. And I would overhear these convers but I never really went for it. So I'm kind of cat if nothing shocks me anymore being around this guy. Yeah, because like I just don't know if I could get into it. You know what I'm saying. I'm desensitized to

sex now. It's like it's not like sacred because of Adam or because of because of Adam. The stories the ship that I see now, like the doing the Patreons will make you just lose hope and all. A woman who was as tall as me put her whole hand in her buttthole and it was bleeding. You keep saying, and it was bleeding. This is on camera, Yes, that was on the picture. The chick fisted herself up her ass.

Oh my god, Kevin has such horny vibes, dude, I know he would hey instead of the yeah, I just I'm just like, yo, that that would be just like a very interesting thing to witness. I've seen, We've seen, We've seen a was there Loube involved. I think she did with a little kid. This was should be like, look let me show you a trick I can do without like any prepper. This took real skill. We've seen a girl come. She made herself sport all over the

floor in like three seconds. That's piss well she pete, Yeah, no, that's definitely pissed. Yo. You I mean you've probably made a girl squirt in your life for sure. Mini the next Minie the next day, the next day, you got pissy bed sheets. It smells like pissed. I mean Hey, I had Adriana Chuchick did that to my couch. Yeah, she fucking she squirted all over the couch. And then afterwards when she left, I'm like, well, now I got a wet couch. Am I gonna do with this at

my former apartment? Yeah? Oh wow Jesus. Yeah, squirt is definitely urine, and you're and it feels good like at the time, and then the next morning you wake up and you're like, especially if you have kids, You're like, why does this smell? Like, Oh, you gotta wash the sheets. You don't want your kid finding your squirt puddle, the squirt puddle or the motherfucking That's why when you like, like man mattresses is fucking disgusting, you know what I say?

That's the nice thing about now that we got multiple properties is that we don't even have to do any kind of freak ship studio. He got a studio apartment in the backyard. They'll let him fool you. We called it the jackshack. The shack. What does that mean? Did you think about it? Is that? Well, so basically like there is such thing as a jack shack, which is like basically like on the side of the Highway. It's

like it's like the same club. It's be like a bunch of little boots where you could like watch a stripper or some shit, or even like I've heard about him where they have like porno playing in the little booth. I mean that's like an adult bookstore that kind of shit. Yeah, And like we used to always just call it a jackshack back in the day on BMX trips and stuff, because you would just see him on the side of

the highway and we thought it's funny as hell. I never went to one, and then he just thought it was the funniest thing ever when I said the word jackshack around him. And then when he realized that I have a back house outside of my house that I have like my whole streaming set up in it and everything, then he really, that's the jackshack. I mean I have jacked off there. So yeah, you know, I went to

uh when I first moved to Vegas. I moved to Vegas in twenty ten, and I was doing radio there and there was a peep show place on like Las Vegas Boulevard and like Charleston like by fucking the Pond, Stars pawn shop and me, and like six of the homies was just out partying. Right. It was like when I first moved there, so I fucking were like, Yo, let's just I've never been to a peep show. I was like, Yo, let's go check the ship out. It was the most grodiest ship ever. Bro. It was fucking horrible.

It's like you said, there's like it's like a circular room and there's a bunch of booths you know where you pay, you get in, and there's just fucking real busted down chick whose life ain't good for her, you know what I'm saying. And she's just in there fucking with roast beef curtains, just handling herself, squirting on the glass. And it was disgusting. Bro, you went to a Jack Shack? I did, yeah, but I didn't Jack. I just was like, it was like, I just want to see that ship.

It was a shock. Has ever been to a Jack Shack Shacking Jack? Now, I don't put that put that evil on shack man. Shout out to Shack. I know a girl who who used to hook up with Shack. So she said, she said, what you would think is not the case. Well that's what it's said in Superheads. Oh yeah, niggas. I read Superheads book back in the day, and she said, basically, it wasn't all that what you might think. You would assume Shack is swinging. I don'tant

to hear this shit. I just think, like your height and your penis size are like pretty unrelated, because I mean, I've had a couple of homies over the years who were like the shortest dudes with the biggest dicks, right like it just happens. It's just it's genetic. Man, is there a real yo? Are you? Are you uncomfortable? You motherfucker? You just saw about Dick all day talk about sex stuff with him. He's very, very true. He talks about

Dick twenty four seven. I'd be like, Bro, Dick talk like, let me tell you this is this is partly work. We was on the We was on the right occasion, humor, bro, But he did shit funny say what he did, And I didn't appreciate this. I told he'll never do this ship again. You feel me so early on me fucking with no jumper, right, yeah, I get the fucking I message. Guess what he sends me a picture of Tiger's Dick. I said, listen, bro, we homies and all. But I

don't feel this ship funny. Because you feel me, don't send me no ship like this. You're crossing the fucking line. So since it's just it's just ridiculous. Man for radio show prep, I was like, you know what, why he got his head dad, look at him. We'll go on Twitter and ship and then like I'll just click on what's trending, and I click on Tiger and I saw his dick and I was like, fuck, bro, that's not the first thing I want to see in the fucking morning.

I don't even had cereal yet. This guy ship, how was it? I mean, I don't know. I can't even really remember. It's just like a bunch of photos of him with girls and ship and then like he had one photo this Dick I heard he really be fucking the girls on that. Would you rate Tigers? I listen, listen is he are you? Are you rating it? Out of my mind? Andie, who's Dick's bigger? You were Tigers? You and Tag I gotta be Eskimo Brothers at least ten times over. It's a nice setup. You I know,

I am yo. It's funny, uh white crazy. You would commented on Kanye getting his only fans pouring off of Reddit right right, because a lot of people will go on Reddit and get all the only fans shit or discord or whatever for free. I've heard I'm sure that that your ship's probably on there somewhere. I would assume I never seen him, but I've seen it. You have, my babe, mama, Shit is this adam where I need

that ship taking down? But no, but you had pretty much been like, yeah, like that's real fucking funny, you know, taking advantage of you know, I just think like if you're a billionaire or even a millionaire and you're bragging about how you're like not paying some girl like eight dollars to like see here videos that you apparently like looking at or whatever, I mean, liken't know. To me, that's just corny as fuck. I'm not gonna like make

it this big fucking stink. I know a lot of people were like accusing me a simping whatever, but I mean, to me, it's the same thing as like, you know, you go to a restaurant, you spend two hundred dollars on dinner, and it's like maybe the waitress didn't really fucking do shit, but you're still going to give her

forty bucks for the tip? Right, Yeah, It's like, I mean, I just don't understand how somebody would think it was like a cool thing to brag about not paying for that when it's you know, he wants people to pay for his music, right. I'm sure if there was like a mass campaign and people bootlegging his music could be upset. Right, that's fair, it's close to your heart. Yeah. Well, I mean I just a lot of times it feels like people don't want to stand up for the girls. This

is true. I stand up for the girls. Porn lives matter. With him, porn lives matter. Porn lives matter. You said at first, how many women are you managing at him? On the only fan side? Less than ten at this time? Who's your biggest earner? Like? Can you sky Skybrey keep it real on that she's going crazy Caucasian? Yeah, hmmm, doing some wild ship or what? Like, what's what's she's out there? Yeah? Wow? Said hey man, that shout out

to Adam's a hustler. Man, Hey man, they got they got some sisters now too, You know what I mean? I think the first time you came in to the radio station, you brought your lady and I'm trying to remember the name of the girl ship. I know her name, but I can't remember her fucking name. Real petite black chick and a Fox. It was Anna Fox. Was she

this porn? Yeah? Let me ask you this, Adam, because like, I feel like you've kind of come along as far as like like early on, when you really first started a pop I felt like you stood on a lot of mountains, Like I remember specifically when you were on the Breakfast Club, you screaming the like you were on the Little Pump Mountains Screaming Club for the record, you no, but I went on, you might be thinking of brilliant idiots.

It was brilliant idiot because Charlotte, Yeah, it was brilliant idiots because you were talking about you were talking about Rick Ross and Rick Ross not being relevant. Remember that. I mean, I just I think they asked crazy. They asked me like, did you hear the new Rick Ross album? And I was like no, Like did you hear the new wal A album? Like no, They're like why, I'm like,

I'm just I don't. I'm not listening to them at this point in my life, and I like it's weird, how like, once you're in the music industry, you have to like pretend that you listen to all these legacy artists who are on their like fourteenth album, Like you have to pretend that you're sincerely like awaited great though shout out to Ross, I have nothing against them. I've been in the industry a lot longer, so I probably

wouldn't say something like that now. But I was just being real, which was like I listened to a lot of street music, underground music. I'm not really listening to There's almost no artists that I'm listening to their fucking eighth album. Well, we just still have it all out of you out of your system that what the fuck

are you doing at that point? But I was in I feel I was gonna say, I feel like you've kind of evolved in that aspect, because I feel like early on you were like on your mountains with Little Pump and you know, the no jumper type guys that we would associate I rolled the SoundCloud wave out, but you know, at a certain point, I realized, like this isn't really about It's not really about like one particular genre of music, and really it's not even about like

doing interviews. It's really about like building a business, putting the team together. I still love doing the interviews, but I also just like at a certain point, like a lot of the shit that just seems kind of silly. Like you know, I'm like standing on stage with like a sixteen year old kid and he's chanting fuck J Cole to the audience, and it's like I'm getting blamed for it because I'm the only person who's thirty in

the room. And uh yeah, I mean so it was like certain I was, I was gonna say, because there was like a moment where you know, you were heavily associated with a lot of stuff that would happen that you really didn't have anything to do with, So did you kind of was there like a moment where you were like, you know what, I got to kind of step back a bit from like being in the mix

too much with some of these kids. I mean, honestly, yeah, definitely, like that shit got old really quick, especially when everybody started dying from drug overdoses, and shit was like, oh, like like you know, when I look at like how I was with Pump and Purp where I was kicking in with them, drinking lean, popping pills and shit. And then by the time Juice World rolls around, it's like I had a friendship with Juice World. I would go

to the studio with him. It was cool. But then I started to like be kind of uncomfortable with like this dude's getting fucked up and this shit ain't really like fun or cool. I don't feel like I'm responsible like being around this kind of stuff because at that point I wasn't partying. I just stopped at one point, like I was drinking, doing coke, doing pills, all this shit.

I just stopped, like a few years ago, and just all that shit kind of just stopped seeming fun to me, you know where I'm at in my life, Like I just don't want to like see teenagers popping pills in front of me, especially if you're not like it's like it's like you're going, you know how the studio sessions are.

They could be very uh yeah, debaucherous. Yeah. So you're in the studio and you're you're sober, you're not participating in any of this, And do you feel like with the Juice world shit, like, because I do remember you being in the studio with him all the time. You had a great relationship with him a couple of times, But did you feel like, like, man, if I keep coming around this shit, like I'm kind of participating in the negligence, Yeah, and it just stopped being me, like

I stopped getting sucked up. So all of a sudden, I'm starting to see shit clearly, which is like, oh, like, you know, I've been in the studio with rappers where I've seen them like really like needing lean, like mad yelling at their friends like upset about not having lean, And then I think about it, like, yo, like two years ago, this shit seemed cute to me, Like I thought the lean shit was all well and good, you know.

And it's like, and I'm saying this ad is probably thinking this that he saw me drink lan the other day, but very very rare occasion that like, shit just doesn't seem cute after a certain point, you know. And for me, it's like at a certain point, you know, I had a fucking kid, and you know, I'm like serious about my business. I wake up at seven in the morning

every day. I'm not he to tell you that you can't get me to leave the house past midnight pretty much at this point, I feel even after eight Yeah, I feel like I had that moment too where it was like, yo, if I'm not getting paid or there's not some real play involved, like I'm at the crib man, That's how I'll be feeling now too. You still every single fucking night, No, I don't. I do. I do

more business. The middle of the pandemic, fucking video goes viral that dude cracking that other dude out of the head the bottom, and I remember saying I think I was with head, and I remember being like, I bet a d was there and I had to stop drinking. So it's like that, why did you because the doctor told me. Yeah, Like, but the urge to go out afterwards, it's like, now I'm the logic of it. I'd be like, what am I gonna do this and get in some

trouble or I can work on some ship with you? Right, because like now you're I mean, you've always been like popping in l a right, but like you're also now like a media personality, So now you kind of experience with him, and I probably experience I've been doing radio so nine, so motherfucker sending you their mixtape or running up on you. You You have me on the I had.

I had to get just I was turning up on niggas like he do no interviews nigga and people get so they take shit so personal, bro, when you're just like, it's just crazy. Like the lack of tact or common sense that artists have is crazy. And entitlement, Oh, entitlement is number one. Entire rappers are so fucking entitled. I don't even know who you are, bro, Like why like what like I much to bring you on my ship?

Like what like? What like? And bro, everybody like like eighty percent of the artists and people told me I shouldn't do no jumper, I shouldn't do media and thehing like that. Now like, bro, that was the best fucking move. I'm like, yea, niggas is stupid. Bro, It's like, why wouldn't you do? You know, if you can have the personality and all the opportunities are here, why wouldn't you

put yourself on camera? And I feel dumb not doing shit sooner not av login nah, you know what I'm saying Now, I look at it like him there, I'll be like, Okay, instead of just playing video games at the house, why don't I fucking film this shit, get

some great content, monetize that shit. And it's like every single aspect is like now business mind is like, okay, let me get a buck for this, let me get a buck for this, let me get a buck for this, and it kind of takes away, like the playtime from it is like, okay, if I'm not getting paid, like even now, like I go out when I'm hosting, you know what I mean, Like, and shit, life's been better. I got more fucking money, I'm not making dumb ass purchases and shit like that. And I feel like the

respect level too, has gone way up. Yeah, I would all, you know, just like you know, shots ahead, but me and he would always be like, man, ad be putting out so much ill shit, but like he'd be fucking overexposing himself to the marketplace. So like when he drops shit, it's like like you're at every club everywhere. I'm excited to see what it's like when you put your new

shit out. Because he has a put up project like two years and I feel like the New Jumper audience is actually like really primed to like and the support was it was it the Blue Rhino shit last year you dropped that was like that was an EP. But I mean like in the introim of everything, bro, I mean, by the way, let's work, Yeah they work good. Me and pun we yeah, Me and Pum bought bought a studio, you know what I'm saying. So I got the time to like one thing that this shit showed me is that, Okay,

I could film and do all this stuff. I get to take my time with music, don't have to rush anything, you know what I mean, and just really get the best material out of the situation. And it's like I'm coming back with some of the biggest producers in music, you know what I mean. I got new fans, you know what I mean. I still like crazy ass features, like everything is primed and like niggas ain't fucking my shit and you could really wrap It'll give you credit

as like an MC because I've heard some shit. I'm like, this is a d We went to the studio with them one time and just watching them like put a verse together, I'm like, oh man, totally forget from hanging out with this guy and seeing the mac like an idiot that he's hey, man, hey, where'd you get your teeth done? Ad? I ain't telling you that. I'll tell you camera Blivia. Do you feel like you kicked off the teeth wave for a lot of people? I know

you was clowning me for that ship. I post horse horse new ad, we're tagging, we're playing a song on the radio. But then i'd have like the horse gift in the corner. Bro Wiz like like Wiz started calling me the mask, and niggas just started like running with the ship now. But I didn't even like, I didn't even want to get my teeth. Were your teeth fucked up? No?

I didn't want to get my teeth done. I'm wanting them people like prime example, right I shot the punk punt is like, hey, I got this furniture that I need to go pick up. You feel me? So we go to pick up the furniture. This type of that I am. We pick up the furniture and he's like, hey, I got an extra one. I'm like, I want it. I don't even know what the fuck it is, you know what I mean? So I get the ship and like, do you even know what you bought him, Like, I

don't know what I bought. I just want that shit. So that's how I am. I ended up going to this place. I happened to just be there traveling my homeboy whoever it was. My homeboy was getting his teeth done, and it was like, hey, we know you. We could do your shit too. I was like, let's do it, and I ran with that shit. That's the weirdest thing is like I'll never notice like most people who get the new teeth, I don't notice they ever had bad teeth.

For the most part, there's a few people who I'm like, yeah, you needed that, But most of the time, I'm like, what, I never noticed anything was wrong with your teeth. My shit wasn't like it wasn't like it was when I noticed when you have them fucking chompers. You know what I'm saying. This is nice though, but look. It was funny though, because I did a snoops of the gg and news right yeah, and somebody wrote back was like, hey, these teeth was fucked up, and I kind of like

made fun of myself and screenshot. But my teeth won bad. It was more on a yellowish shode, you know what. I'm saying a little tainted, but yeah, I'm perfect. It's called being an adult. You know what I'm saying. I fucked that when the hair go I'm getting the full treatment too. Everything fake, I'm have everything, bro. We had to strike back. Now the beard ain't fake. These motherfuckers and people think of my beard, I got weird, a

fake beard. No, I gotta always had a friend who took like like they took some sort of graft from the back of his head, and now he has an entire on his beard. His whole beard is it's like real hair. Oh, they like fill it in. But he had to do like a real like he had to do surgery. But now he's got like a perfect beard. Shit far. I was insecure about my hairline before I got the surgery done. But when I think about it, being insecure about your beard, it's gonna be pretty weird.

But you've had a surgery done. Yeah, I got the well we had a pride out of this nigga. Man, he got two two hair jobs, man, Yeah, is that why you're always bald? I okay, So twenty eleven, I think I got the hair transplant done, and so I was like twenty eight then, and that's before anybody even knew who I was. And then as time went by, I started to look a little bit more whax. So I started shaving my head for a couple of years. But I saw that a decent hairline around that time.

But then I got it done again. And that brings us to today, except that that of blonde. Are you scared of dieback? Uh? I kind of want to dive blond again because I kind of like it. I kind of feel like it's making me like have more fun, you know, to have more fun? Oh my god? Yeah? Yeah. So I I was just at Dame Dash's place the other day. We did an interview my guy, and everyone was DM and ME like, Yo, did you have to

pay for the interview? I was like nah, but I was like pay because he wanted money to pull up on us, right, even though I went to him. He lived like ten minutes away. Right, But you guys were gonna do like you guys did a like at least one episode of you guys doing something. I remember watching it three when ended up happening like when we're wrong there?

What didn't I mean? I guess I just basically ended up feeling like I was not going to get anywhere with like building rapport, you know, which is what I'm really into, is I like to what I attracted to with podcasting, like repeatedly, like with people like him and house Phone and stuff, is that you feel like you just keep making the relationship better and deeper and stronger.

And then eventually if you look at something like Joe Budden podcast, and why I was kind of like traumatic when they broke up is because you know, you really had gotten used to seeing the dynamic over and over and with Dame, I just kind of eventually started to feel like there was no way that we were going to actually get anywhere. So I just kind of like

why I waste time? Yeah, it just didn't really stand out to me as something that I really wanted to be doing, and so I just kind of do you look at obviously you're a hip hop podcast right at its core, but do you kind of like, do you even look at yourself do that scope anymore? As a

wrap podcast? Yeah? I do. And I'm still doing a shitload of interviews and a lot even though I sometimes feel like I really don't need to be doing this, Like you know, I have like, actually other things I could be doing my time, they're like a lot more profitab because we'll interview some of the same people, and some of the same people we interview are horrible to talk to, h right, So you know, sometimes sometimes some people were just they're just you know, they're just kids,

and yeah, it is what it is. I still like, you know, I feel like I take a lot of pride in interviewing people that I've seen do other interviews that sucked, right, and then being able to get like a much better version of them out. And I think it's all about just making them feel as comfortable as possible.

And you know that I really like doing interviews. Like when I think about my life, when I think about, like what would I change if I had a fucking one hundred million dollars dropped in my bank account tomorrow, Like would I stop doing interviews? Like, no way, I probably wouldn't like stress out about it as much. You know, maybe I would, like, you know, go a couple of weeks without doing one sometimes, but I definitely would keep doing interviews. I love you. I love doing interviews too.

But what's the last time you did an interview? During the interview We're like, what the fuck am I doing? Jesus, I looked on the schedule. I could probably find some of those I know who it is really maybe fake Drake, That's what that was just so funny. I just knew because that was ship. I was like thirty. I gave him half an hour because I felt like, it's not terrible, you don't need an hour. What else? Yeah, going to

talk to him, I see it. I don't know. He's telling me about his crypto business and ship, and I'm like, this is kind of interesting as were actually, like I like doing the meme interviews like that. The dude for sure, the dude who made the fake that the song where he acted like he was leaking all of my personal money and I did it with him and acted like I was mad at him and kind of acted like

it was like a real thing. And it got shill out of views and everybody's like, I can't believe I'm to interview the dude who exposed his social Security number like it was all fake. He knew, he knew though he knew some fact he didn't know him, okay, And I know one thing he's talking about, like I robbed his grandma. My grandma has both been dead for like twenty years. But he said he said the card that

he used to drive. Dude. What was weird is the that random white dude you had on your podcast that I think you're beefing with now, uh milk, bro, he's homeless. That dude like you did you guys did that interview and then he started dming me like every day, like yo, yo, I was on ADAM twenty two, let me come up and I was like, yeah, bro, I'm good, you know, like and then the dude just started like bashing me on his Instagram. Yo. He does that to everybody's honestly

mental condition. Yeah, because he's scared of you. But he like, he like really like does that to everybody that does anything for him, because I like, no matter how much I asked him, he couldn't come up with anything that I did to him to make him upset. He just tripped out. So, I mean, honestly, he's a lost soul. Is there has there been that situation for you where you've like, because I feel like, you know, you look at like krit Mac dude, who I feel like is

his own thing. Now he's like yeah and and and I I first obviously saw him and his personality and how funny he was on No Jumper. Has there been a situation where you feel like you've kind of helped bring people, you know, some attention that they might not have otherwise gotten foot But the second is something doesn't

necessarily go their way. They get combative with you. Honestly, Like, there's been so many people where when I look at it, I kind of I don't want to say, like I gave them a career because everybody, like you know, krip Mak was who he was in the first place. I just helped to shine a light on it. And then you know, Channel five does contact with him, and that shines a big ass light on him, et cetera. You know, that's just it's not like I fucking invented him or

made him or anything like that. But yeah, like almost all the time, people are really cool about that, and like, you know, they see that for what it is and they're appreciative of the fact that you help them to

get somewhere. You're not going to do the whole thing for him, obviously, There's a lot of work for you to do once you get your No Jumper interviewer, you get your lad interview, but we see it all the time, where you know, I see so many older gangster dudes or and like, you know, people in other ways of life who've been on VLAT a couple of times and then all of a sudden, you fast forward a couple of years and they use that to launch their own podcast, and they all of a sudden have a big old

revenue stream and a business for themselves. And that's a beautiful thing, you know, And like I would, you know, almost everybody like sees that dynamic and respects it and appreciates it. Milk is the rare bitch who basically like

sees that and doesn't like get it. He's like, Oh, you did something for me, but you're not gonna keep doing things for me, so now I hate you, where like anybody would common sense would be like, oh, you did something for me, I'm gonna stay on good terms with you, because like because I would have kept fucking with them, I would have kept you know, this is crazy. I mean he's like, you're looking at a dude who I mean he told me about it in the interview.

Obviously I had like a super fucked up childhood, and I don't think he like knows how to be loved. He doesn't know how to like have somebody do something nice for him and then return that and reciprocate and like have a healthy bond between people. Because you're talking about somebody that has no friends. He's not like respected or like allowed back where he's from, et cetera. None of those people fuck with him at all. It's like, I mean, it's pretty transparent, like if you watch his

content or whatever, that he doesn't have any relationships. You know, not to say that at the moment, you can't like help make a rapper's career because No Jumper is still one of the biggest plat But I feel like twenty eighteen twenty seventeen, it was like a thing that if you went on No Jumper it could like break your career. But it was weird because that was the time period where the industry in general was like cutting like three

million dollar advances. Like there are artists that I know that I could name right now that you have never heard of that had one song that on Elevator or on fucking No Jumper or on whatever, and they got three million views and then or whatever, and the label gave him millions of dollars because there was a crazy fucking bidding war between the labels and a lot of those artists literally never put out another song that did like a million views, that would never anything. Yeah, it's insane.

The industry got so fucked up then, and I feel like it's really come back to earth because like the bidding war thing, well, I like I always refer to like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen is like the it was just rough for rap music because like there was like you said, like there was like labels just signing Instagram dudes, yeah and trying to turn them into rappers. And sometimes

it works, because that's what Pump was. Pump was like a funny, like mean thing like with like a song and if you think you signed him, and you know what was that one dude like kid Boo, Like, yeah he got signed off of him being a clone. He didn't get signed it. Yeah he always he signed to h he signed an Island, was he? Yeah, Chris, that's so sad. You think of shit like that and you're like fuck man like and people in that same vein

were getting bagged up. Yeah, And it was all like total nerd ass kids who just dyed their hair and then just started talking about spraying up your block. Yeah, like Skinny from the nine got a deal, you know, from Hicco. You know what I'm saying, real gangster, but uh, you know a lot of these other people were like, it's just the most random kids ever, just talking about the rugs, talking about whatever. And now when you look

at it, who's the most popular rappers? Usually like actual like street dudes who like are maybe not even saying something that to that different from the lyrical content of the sound called rappers, but it's like a real thing. Well also, I feel like the cream always rises to the top. If we think of who's always consistent, it's the It's the motherfuckers who really have like artistic integrity. It's always won't be that though, you know what I'm saying.

Why that cookie cutter shit last for a little while? Where do you think Pumped the pump shit went left? Because you were very close to that situation, and I mean, m I feel like at one point in time, you were his, you were his probably his biggest public co sign. Yeah,

and the ship definitely went left. I mean, it's kind of hard to identify when exactly that happened, because it was like he seems so big until all of a sudden, it just was it wasn't like you put out that that album that didn't really sell that good, and it's like everybody just kind of saw that and like got in on the it's like bandwagon thing of like his careers over fuck him. I mean, I was just kind

of observing it, you know. I never had anything bad to say about him, like I was, you know, I thought there were a bunch of missteps, you know, I thought that like, what was that one song that was like a he was dressed like a doctor and the whole video was like way too many drugs in the video. It was literally it was like about it was something about drugs. It was like fuck, it was like drug addicts the song. And I was like, I don't know, man, this just seems like people are not going to fuck

with well that's what he's doing. Like I was, I seen on his YouTube channel. He's got he put out like an Emo song, and he put out like a Spanish song. I feel like he got to a point where he was just like when when the music started to slip away. You would notice he was just leaning heavy into ig antics just to just to get he would like the nails like I was like, yo, man, Like, but what about the Donald Trump ship? That was legendary.

I felt like that was probably one of the biggest missteps in terms of like make people really not fuck with you. I felt like the Trump thing was it was straight out the Simpson ship. This is crazy little pimp. That was, you know at all the wild ship that happened that Trump did, and he did a bunch of

fun shit, right. I remember waking up in the morning or about to go to bed, looking at Twitter and just seeing that video and like, just like this little Pump and the motherfucking Nelk boys out on stage at Presidential Like, what the fuck world? I think Pump got comeback in them though? Do you think so? Why not? He's got only fans I heard that. Did you pay for it? I haven't seen it, but somebody told me the Today's fucking on there, so I should probably cop.

I saw he'd be with a v rod all the time. Yeah, I think that's his babe or some shit. I seen him saying some real sweet stuff about it on the story. I don't know, I don't know if they're like dating or if they just do contact together. I was gonna say that during that time, like, I'm sure you had so many opportunities to get a bag to do an interview, Like what was the biggest bag? You said, notes too from I've never even started the conversation, so it was

never even like someone offered. It was just like, no, I'm not doing it. So I never really never like heard out dollar amounts because I just I never even had the conversation. That's fair. Now that you're you know, obviously diving into Patreon OnlyFans, what what what? What? What like? In your weekly basis, right outside of being a father and hanging with your wife and shit, what what professionally do you enjoy doing the most right now? Mmm? Honestly,

that's a good question. Like it's kind of I still love doing the No Jumper interviews. I feel like that's more of like a passion thing. Although like you know, yesterday we interviewed this girl and fucked the shit out her afterwards, and I mean that was fucking great, Like I had a ball doing that. I don't know, it's

like I really like everything I'm doing right now. Like the hard part is to control my desire to go play poker every day, like focus on work because like poker would be like a really sad use of my time. At this point, it's I mean, gambling is addictive, man, it is, And it's just you got better with that ship though. Well a minute that nigga had a laptop right there. There's nothing like it in between the nigga

pull that motherfucker out doing that shit. Yeah, it's like drugs, man, when you hit, But when you're down, it's like the worst because you're like, what could I have done with that money? I just do that in Vegas? Like I could have bought I could buy anything with this money, Like I could have got pizza, like any like literally

anything like a watch, whatever the fuck? Yeah, And like you know, when I go to the casino and sit down like ten twenty thousand, it's like you lose that and you're like, that's like what my mom was making at her job when I was a kid, Like in a year, just lost it over a fucking cardoll And online you don't have the actual physical money with you, so it's easier to fuck off money online. Yeah, oh yeah,

super easy. Most I were lost on the days like fifteen k though, So I feel like that's pretty good. That's not bad, that's not it, that's not terrible. But I've also like won like in a day too. So with all of like you, you deal with so much situations that I feel like you leave yourself open to possibly having like women say some shit about you in an era where there's so much cancel culture shit going on.

Are you very conscientious of those kind of situations and making sure like yeah, definitely, Like you know, we make the girl sign forms on forms like you know, basically consent. Everybody who's on set has to sign forms that basically like are them agreeing to be there and be part of this and everything like that. So I mean, honestly, we just do everything on the up. It's like you can't you can't really predict because once in a while, a girl is just gonna decide like I'm just gonna

say the craziest shit ever about you. All you can really do is protect yourself on a legal end. But I'm also very confident that right now, if a girl were to come out and say, oh, something fucked up happened on a plug talk set or like whatever. It's like you you signed all this paperwork and we have video of you from the moment you fucking you fisted yourself. It is. It is that you can't really say anything like realistically, if you try to sue me, I'm probably

gonna suit you back, So go for it. Yah know. I feel like it's just man, it's you know, we talk about this shit because we're like for the radio show, We're like we want to bring a female co host on it, but I also don't want to like say the wrong joke in front of somebody. Yeah, I mean, talk to your attorney or whatever and just get contracts that basically say part of the job is me saying offensive things around you, you know, like this is the podcast.

Like I don't even know if that's really in our contracts because it's just so common sense that like you know, like if you're going to hire somebody to have these conversations on camera with you, it is what it is now, like them getting hit on. That's the kind of stuff that like, you know, we have a bunch of girls to work for us, and I mean everybody knows this is not like you're not allowed to use this job as like a way for to get make any of

these girls feel uncomfortable or anything like that. Like we're super on top of that, but we also keep like a giant wall between the plug Talk thing and the Jumper thing. Like you know, almost all the employees like go home when we do the plug talk, the Patreon episodes and everything, because you know, our next spot, we're gonna be able to do it where it's like completely sectioned off so there's no chance of them seeing the girls or naked or whatever. But we try to keep

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pulled it. Correct me if I'm wrong. There was those old accusations that came out and Atlantic kind of washed

their hands of that situation. We had like a one year contract with a one year addition to it where it's like an option to do another year, and after the first year, they basically were like they just had like hell of pressure being put on them by like journalists and shit, it just kept hitting them up for fucking comments, how do you feel about this, YadA YadA, And it's like there's so much fucking bureaucracy and that ship that's so much like you know, it's hard to

make things move, you know, like if they have, like if you have like the budget and the team fully behind you. It just ended up being more trouble than it was worth because they were dealing with all this weird shit from journalists trying to get them like to basically they had like journalists trying to get them to cut me off. And it's like we did that one record, we did like another record. It was kind of whatever I personally, and I know it's like convenient for me

to say this, some people might think I'm lying. I hated everything about the experience. It was fucking terrible. I started to realize, like very early on, that I didn't get the deal that I could have got, should have got, and that if I was really gonna do this, I wanted to do it my own way, you know, Like they were trying to sign an artist. I try to sign Draco. They're like he's too gang related. I'm like, well,

what the fuck am I even doing here? Then? You know, like this is not you know, like if you're gonna tell me that an artist being too gang means I don't get to sign them, what the fuck did you sign me for? Because that's not I didn't like get into this to do like some safe shit, you know, that's not like I want to sign an artist that I believe in. And obviously if I had signed Draco, my life would have been full of many many headaches

as a result of it. So they probably spared me some some headaches, but you know, it just it wasn't a really a good fit. To be honest, Why do you know how to do all that shit? I was gonna say, I just don't really care because I don't really see the value. Like the times that I've seen an artist that we could sign and I really started to conceive of how much work it was going to be and how uncertain them becoming a big star was, and then how much money I'm making doing other things.

I just could not, like do the math that would end a bandwidth that you would have to put into it, and I'm already doing on the risk. So many things, and it's like a lot of times I just look in my life and somebody comes with me a business opportunity, and I'm like, that is a great fucking idea, and I do not have the time, and there's no way like you're gonna make if you do that right, you can make millions of dollars off that idea. But I just don't I really don't believe that I'm gonna be

able to invest myself in it, you know. And I remember talking to Sasha Stone about like he was trying to get you to do a no jumper festival at a certain point in time, right, it wasn't that being tossed around. We talked about it a little bit, but I mean, honestly, everybody in their fucking mom has talked to me about doing a festival together or whatever, and

it's just such a flooded market. And like my whole thing is like I'm not really trying to bring anything to market as a business if it's not gonna like have a really unique value proposition, you know. Like when I think about, like, oh, do another festival in La it's like, well, there's already five million fucking festivals in La.

And if we're going to book artists, we're basically gonna end up booking all the same artists that are playing all these other festivals, and they got exclusivity contracts, so we're not gonna be able to book a lot of them. And it's just I don't know, Like people always want me to do all the businesses that other people that are basically like in my position are doing. Like they see Rolling Loud and they're like, well, couldn't you do

a Rolling Loud. It's like maybe I could dedicate my life to trying to like clone their business model, but they seem like they're doing a great job. Well, they also have been concert promoters for you know, and like does the world like literally what they If they're doing a great job, does the world really need me to

do like another version of that same thing? And I respect it, Like I've seen Cole go through the whole thing and doing the Summer Smash thing and he's definitely building this like big valuable ip out of that just

doing this concert consecutively. But like I never really wanted to do that, So I was gonna say, you can only do so many things, you know, how I remember there was the video that came out when Cole stopped by the shop, right, And that was kind of like a cool moment because at that moment it felt like there was two There was such a division in rap music at that time, like a I mean, you know, when I was a kid, there was like you would think of like commercial shit and then you would think

of like backpack shit like Racus Records. And like the idea of like jay Z and telip Quality doing a song together was so crazy back then, even though that it would make sense for them to do a song together, right, but it was just just a thought. But like, I feel like that was kind of a cool moment because it was very like it it brought two worlds together. This is before Cole interviewed Pump. That was random, Like, uh,

you mentioned Sasha. He was like talking to J Cole and like J Cole was kind of finding out about No Jumper at that time and was interested in it. I think Sasha told him, like you should pull up to his shop. And one of the unfortunate things about having a shop is that like you're just not going to be there all the second of the day, And at that time I was there, like fucking eight hours a day, very very consistently. But I just wasn't there.

It was like noon or some shit, you know, they had just opened, and one of the employees calls me. They're like, Jake Cole's here. He's asking if you're here, and I'm just like what the fuck, so I have to I'm literally like getting in the shower. As I get this call, I fucking hop out of the shower.

I raced there. I'm totally out of breath, and all of a sudden, I'm talking to j Cole and like he says, like, oh, like you know, like somehow he asked me what podcast I had just been listening to, because I mentioned something about it, and I mentioned, like I was just listening to this podcast about religion, and so all of a sudden he's asking me about religion and like trying to figure out what I think about religion and shit, and I'm just like why the fuck

did I bring up religion and also like kind of an atheist, so it's like me, we're probably not on the same page, Yang, And then like you know, it was just kind of like weird because in the footage I'm like hell out of breath, honestly, that editing that I edited it myself was the most painful thing I think I've ever edited. Like I'm cringing out of my fucking skin while I edited it because I was just out of bread, awkward, not compared. I'm not prepared for

that conversation. I had no idea and we talked for like twenty minutes or some shit, and then he just like went out took photos of everybody for some reason. I remember Icy Darko was there that day, and Jakele another one of those guys who's got a bag that he probably shouldn't have got. Yeah, and then h you

know there, but there's photos of them together. He was taking photos of everybody, no security, just as manager, just them too chilling and like since then, I can honestly say though that he's like the rare person that I've met that I actually just stay in touch with and we'll just randomly talk about some shit, or I'll send him an artist like just hey, like hey you check this out. I sent him Ramble. He's like, Wow, this

kid's dope. Like he was super hyped on it, and you know, like, I fucking I think he hit me up about kripmak at one point he did just saying like, yo, like is that guy for real? Like this is the funniest shit I ever seen, Like he couldn't believe it, and even like I decided to shoot my shot fairly recently, this is a like heav exclusive. I shot my shot. I hit j cole Up. I said, Yo, the tour's coming through. How would you feel about doing the interview

while you're out here? Because we had talked about it before and he had basically said that he was kind of down, you know, and like I asked him and didn't get a response for like four days or five days, and I'm in Hawaii and he just calls me and he actually like, is the rare you not? Rappers are? If they don't want to do the interview, they just ignore you. Of course, nine times out of ten, maybe if your homies with him, they'll give you a little

explanation whatever. He actually called me and talked to me for ten minutes about how life was going, and also was just like, you know, like like I think he just really values his privacy at this point, which I totally get because when you're on that level of stardom,

you know, it's just everything is different, you know. And we actually just had like a real conversation about that, and he was he was just kind of like, you know, I'm not saying I'm never gonna do it, and I really respect everything you get you guys got going on, but I just don't really feel like right now is the time. You know, I'm not saying I'm never gonna do it. Like I just have never got that level of like graciousness, right, Like that is like a gracious no, yes,

like I respect what you do. He's like the white dude who's so rich and successful and famous and just somehow like every interaction I've had with him, like there's just no evidence of him being aware of the position that he's in. He's just actually the nicest men. He's like, I don't know, it tripped me out, man, Honestly, he didn't have to like call and talk to me and have this super nice conversation about our kids for ten minutes as a way of saying that he wasn't gonna

do the interview. You know, I was just kind of blown over. What's what's the biggest, uh, almost interview that happened? Because I know you've been in contact with Drake before, Like, was there ever a situation where something big almost happened and just for whatever reason and it just fell through last minute? Like fuck, there's probably been so many, Yeah, like the Drake one. He said he wanted to do that at one point, and that justs never happened when

I think about it. Like I remember there was one day where we were doing like a random, like chill conversation episode at the store downtown and as soon as we get done, the employee at the store says, Yo, there's like a fan here. He wants to take a photo, like are you down? I go okay, I walk out. It's Playboy Cardi. It's like twenty fifteen. My fucking employee didn't know who Playboy Cardi was at that time. I did twenty sixteen. But either way, he's like on a bike.

He's on like a complete bike that he had borrowed from Shane Gonzalez from Midnight Studios, and he's it wasn't like it was anything crazy. It was just like chill talk for a minute or whatever. And uh, there's like a photo of him on the bike in front of the no Jumper sign and everything, and uh, yeah, Like I even I talked to him about doing an interview a couple of times back then, but it was like a kind of thing where I really really think I

could have done it. I just needed to try a little harder, because we even had the conversation to him being like, I don't want to do an hour, but I'll do twenty minutes. And I was like, yeah, we did. We interviewed him at the station like in twenty eighteen. Yeah, And he was one of those guys that I don't know like and I'm not like a playboy. Cardi is one of the artists whom I just throw the papers in the air. I don't get it. I don't get my little brothers like he's the greatest. But I really

really liked him in the early days. It's just I don't get it got a little too weird, Like the whole lot of red shit. I listened to it, and I was like, this is this I don't I just don't get this shit. I got Little Pump. I would listen to a Little Pump shitter. This shit bangs, like

you know what I'm saying. But at that time, I totally agree those songs were knocking no. But that's also the same time where like even real gangsters are going up to Gumo in the club, you know, like Cardi Shiit was very you know, but but we when we interviewed him, like it was like a rough interview. I think he did not want to be there. I think

every interview has ever done has been rough. Yeah, he just didn't want to be there, nic guy, But the Big Boy interview was like, yeah, rough, you know, like it probably would have sucked, but it would still be pretty legendary, I think too. Like with radio, like you know, like what we sometimes we would deal with is like imagine you're an artist and you're on a promo run with the label oh yeah, and you go to a

ninety nine percent. By the way, radio is fucking dying, right, which is why I pivoted and I'm doing it the way I'm doing it. But imagine if you're I mean, you've been on promo runs, but like imagine if you you've you've gone to thirty radio stations and it's a bunch of corny, middle aged fucking So I hear you're a crip. What's that like? Yeah? So so I see you got a Yeah, I see you got a kon on the album? How did that happen? I heard he's got his own city. Yeah, so that's I hate promo runs.

I almost like want to institute that as a rule, like I will only interview you at a time in your career where you don't have anything to promote, right, well actually, but like you kind of you kind of and it happens. We're like, shit, there'll be times where somebody will leave here and go to you, or they'll leave you and come to me, and we'll be like, well shit, I mean we do different types of shit.

If you're doing boutleg keV no jumper and glad and you're wearing the same hoodie and everything, I mean, like the Fulio shit, Like Fulio's were in the same outfit and everything. Yeah, my dad, motherfucker had that outfit on for a whole week, put on layers and then just take the layers off throughout the day. Dude it and then and then like the YouTube comments are so funny, like yo, this guy definitely was just doing every interview in LA. It's funny when it's that transparent. I've done

it though, too. I've done like promo runs where I do like five interviews in a day where I'm just wearing the save ship And will you do that in real life anyway? Yeah? You wash your jeans? No, he doesn't, not that often, but you should. I mean you really shouldn't unless they're dirty. I mean, you got it. Have you got jeans you take them to get? How many times you got a brand new pair of marries? How many times you're wearing them before you watch them marries?

I'm not washing them ever, I'm getting them dry clean. Oh yeah, at least once every two weeks or something. I only wash my hands if they get dirty, my dentim if I if I'm like okay, they're dirty or like it's been I'm just I'm just you wash black pants there. No, Yeah, because like these jeans I'm wearing right now are like seven hundred dollars fucking DaVinci jeans,

and it's like I'm gonna wear them. I'll say, you know, maybe ninety six times, maybe ten times until they start to feel kind of gross and oily, and then I'll probably dry clean them. You know, but like I feel oily if you wear them enough, they just set to feel gross. They don't feel like clean you know, but I but I'm not getting there wearing them like four times. Now if I bust a sweating them, that's different because

Brian BMX. Back in the day, I really would feel like I would get a pair of jeans and it would basically be like my par of jeans for like the next like three weeks, because they're they're just getting trash no matter what you know. And then like you wash them and you try to keep wearing them. But I would just fucking destroy my pants back then. Yeah, I just feel like jeans like, unless they're dirty, I just just fold them back up and put them in

the drawer. We live in a gene culture where you just got you have no social standing unless you have four thousand dollars. I marry jeans on. I'm not a part of that culture. You don't talk that you have some wranglers. Well, I have like eighty pairs of jeens. I don't only wear three. I go to uh, I get my dnim from I don't know Zara. I remember tax Stones saying. Tax Stone said, you're gonna catch a body,

go in and do twenty years. They're gonna fuck your baby mama, and all you're gonna have to show for it is a bunch of pairs of jeans. I was like, Wow, some real shit. That is some real ship. But there's a lot of people where all of their life's work is basically in their gene pos man. Man, if you it sucks like his situation, man, because I really feel like his shit was just getting started. Man. I talked to him the other day. Man, he's in good spirits. Yeah,

we were. I don't know why I'm supposed to have Troy ab was supposed to be here on Tuesday. Well there's another one that called out on both of us. He was supposed to come in. Yeah, see we would have had Troy having the same outfit. I'm outing myself that I talked to tax before the Troy Avenue year.

But whatever. Yeah. Yeah, is there any like when you have personal relationships with certain people and like, you know, they're like your friends right right, and there's like some actual beef shit involved, will you talk to the hell yeah, we're not friends unless you could fucking at least allow me to ask you that, you know, if you ever know it's not even that, I mean like, will you

talk to their ops? Oh? I mean a lot of times the ship is about shit that's so stupid that it's not like you're gonna learn anything from talking to the ops. It's like it's like your baby mama or whatever. Like or have you ever had like a situation where someone came on your show and like one of your homies who was also a rapper fuss some type of way. She's like, Yo, you know this, dude, you know what

I'm saying. Sometimes I'm taking the funk off like not like that, but I'll be like I'm doing my job. I'm like, bruh, nobody bigg in the program. I've had to tell rappers that, like this is bigger than whatever personal grievance you have going on right now. I know your hood don't get along with their hood whatever, but like you got to understand all that shit is just up in the air, like y'all not getting along right

now whatever. Even if y'all are not gonna get long for twenty years, it has nothing to do with me, you know, And it's like, leave me the fuck out of it. I just saw a young boy said he would do a song with six ' nine. Yes, I know that You've kind of been pretty adamant that you wouldn't do a six nine interview, right, I don't really know how to say to him, Well, I know that, like Vlad just kind of pivoted from his position of saying that he would never do it when he was

on academic shit. He was essentially saying, you know what I thought about it, I would do the interview. You still wouldn't do the interview. I personally don't really want to take that on. I would like to see Blad do it. Lad is extremely well researched, you know. I think that he would ask the questions that I would like to hear. You know, I don't think I feel like six nine wouldn't do it because he doesn't want to have to withstand that kind of scrutiny. You know.

I think like, if anything that is going to expose him more so myself personally, I'm over him as a human. But I would say if I do that. Honestly, I wonder if young Boy did the song, like, does that like really fuck with his Well, you gotta see the context of what he says. I only saw the headline, so, like everything else, the context was he'll do a song with six nine before doing it with all these pussy ass rappers. That's basically what he was saying. Who's the

pussy ass rappers? He just basically say he don't respect the industry, like of mainstream right now. So he said he'd rather do a song with six nine to do songs with like the top guys and hip hop right now. Yeah, that's an interesting take. I could see that. I mean, I feel like young Boy is like so gangster and so like, isn't the most gangster thing you could do to be to not give a fuck about what anybody

else thinks? You know? So, I mean I get that that's something he would like to say, But I like that context too because that really kind of illuminates what he was actually trying to say in that situation. Yeah, he don't do no interviews, Like, he don't do nothing. Clubhouse is the best that I could get out of him. You know, you wanted them on the podcast and he got a clubhouse instead. Yeah, Hey the clubhouse. Shit, are you still in clubhouse? Fucking no? Bro? I deleted that

shit after like a week, bro. One one day with that, I said, this is gonna be bad. Clubhouse Virgin Weir. Bro. They had a LA. They had an LA room. I think Head was running this shit. Bro me game ot fucking j three oh five, A gang of fucking LA artists Bro, and then fucking Shiggy comes in. Bro the clubhouse room. Bro, Shiggy like the dancer. Yeah, Bro shot the Shaggy man, cool nigga, but Bro the jokes and

they was flaming him. Tyree's came in there. It was just like it seemed like the LA chat room clubhouse

room was all Shiggy's ass. Bro. And I felt bad afterwards cause I'm like, damn niggas is fucking I just thought to myself, like this is a big waste of time, Like I would see people literally just on clubhouse all fucking day that were supposed to be like, you know, important people or people who are you would the perception is that they're out here doing shit, and I'm like, you're on clubhouse twelve hours a fucking day, Like like I would be this is real life. Like I would

be in the office. I would do four interviews in the course of a day. I'm on camera for you know, five six hours. I'm fucking talking to my employees and working on other shit in between. Et cetera made all this content. I'm driving home. I'm feeling really good. You know, I just got the four fucking podcasts. I'm gonna drop four episodes next week. That shit's tight. I felt like I just climbed a mountain, right. And then I got

people texting me like do this clubhouse room? And I'm like, so you're telling me that I'm about that, I'm about to go home and I want to sit on the couch and watch something on Netflix and zone the fuck out, And you're basically telling me that you want me to do my job for a couple more hours. Like yeah,

but this is the thing. Clubhouse was great for people, for people who had something to say and wanted to put it out there, but didn't necessarily maybe have a platform, because I mean, you're talking about Whack one hundred Tyreese and Shiggy Exce. If you put buleg cap with those three people, they're gonna do a pot podcast episode that a million people can watch. That fucking put it on

Clubhouse for free. I don't get it. Yeah, I just felt like it was people just wasting I mean, it's obviously it's still a thing, right, It's kind of had a little resurgence recently because I felt like it was kind of dead in the water for a minute. But it's good for people who want a network. You desperately are network. I just see niggas talking ship on there and I'm like, man, listen, I don't want nobody talking to me crazy because the game was like hosting some

late night creep shit with a bunch of trash. Delete this ship. I'm glad I never been on the people keep trying to Somebody said to me the other day, like, we're working on a clubhouse competitor. How much money do you need to do a weekly chat? Wait? Do you do you remember the name of the company. No, But I just I was like just looking at it, and I'm like thinking about, like what I would actually need to get paid to do that bull shit? Twit Twitter doing this shit too. I'm like, it's a lot, bro.

I'm like, I'm not even gonna tell you number. I don't know how I ended up in Keen Stars fucking Twitter clubhouse thing. I don't on Twitter, really, I swear to god, Bro, I never thought you would touch down with Keemster. You bought him on the show. Yeah, but you were on I was there, oh, on the Jumper Show. Right, Hey, has there ever been an interview that he's done that you could have sat in on? But because of ninety

percent of them? What I was gonna say, because like, obviously you come from a certain you know, background, certain politics involved, you got certain friends where you're just like, I just let I can't be a part of this, Yeah, especially the business. But then also like outside of you having like maybe you have a streets ship might be weird, but not that. But literally, like I only sit Okay,

I'm gonna keep with g he street guys. He asked me to sit in those with him, right, But for the most part, I only sit in the interviews that I'd like to do. So, like if it's somebody I fuck with, like Kevin Samuels, I'm like, I gotta, I gotta be there. I just feel like it's like having him co host is a way of me doing like a different interview with like like especially Geperico, I interviewed him like three years ago or for you or whatever.

He said he wanted to do another one. I thought, oh, it would be interesting to have a d on there a whole different interview. I already interviewed them, so like, you know, you guys have a relationship, you guys know each other. He's gonna ask the different types of questions. It's it's just like a cool way to like make something new again. I think, what's like the last time you were like, actually, can't be there for that, like fake Drake, fake Dan. But it's not like I was

like a please pull up. He was like you're saying. I was like, no, I got bad things I could do. But once in a while, like when we did Silk the Shocker, He's like, what the fuck? Like, man, when I was little growing up, and you know what's crazy is, I was such a No Limit Records fan. I had the fake chain and the note the Masterpiece shoot well,

I felt accomplished as an artist. When Silk the DM he was like, what's crazy is when you go back and listen to Silk He was technically one of the worst rappers, but he was looking back then, he was cool. He was that motherfucker. He was at the Superstar, very influenced. He was doing the motherfucking Records with Maya and Maya, and he had the Hot Boys movie. I wanted to be like Silk shot Silk was like, I want to

start do you like listen? And you're like yo, Like I never thought Silk was a bad rapper as a kid, neither, but like I grew up, you know, you get older and you like become more like, you know, well versed in like rhyme structures and people. But I wouldn't call him a bad rapper because right there's niggas right now that can go off beat and people like they're a bad rapper. Nah. I just feel like he had his own style at the time and it was working for him.

He really wasn't rapping, you know what I mean, but he did something different that made him stand out and it didn't age well, That's what. It didn't age well, even though he Yeah, man, he was on some hit records with Maya. Come on, I like the ship. It's weird as fun to the game, man. But I always liked like people who are willing to just do something

completely different with their style and like flow. You know, are you still I mean I just saw you post your what you actually listened to on appen It was so bad. It was like my number one artist is like eight hours of total listening to EStG. This year. Yes, that's pretty bad, like eight hours total, like that much.

If I did this in twenty fifteen and it were accurate and includes soundclid and stuff, I mean, I guarantee my top artists would have been like eighty hours of fucking listening to them, you know, Like I really don't listen to that much fucking music at this point. Like I listened to the shit that we talk about on the podcast. I listened to the artists that I'm gonna interview on the podcast. I end up finding random artists

that I get like really into. But like I mean, at this point in my life, I kind of listened to music like a more like a normal person because I'll have like, oh I found like, oh I really like this poosch Icy tape, this EStG tape. I'm gonna listen to it forty times, and then I'm gonna just, you know, listen to something else, and like I don't know, it's just I don't have that like a and R bug of like I gotta like find out about every new rapper, but I have like a team who brings me.

I think it's a bandwidth thing, right, It's like, yo, man, I don't got that. Like I used to talk was being not writing too dope boys, trying to find whoever is too dope boys brouck with them. But it's like now it's like, hey, man, if the ship's fire, it's gonna find me. I like to drive, listen to audio books, bro give myself some I just listen to podcasts. Yeah, audio books. Like I'll watch like a three hour podcast. Now that's what I would just right around and be like, Okay,

is Joe Rogan have someone interesting on this week? Let me see what the fuck they're talking about. I kind of like, how like the Spotify ship is with academic shit because it's like I did. It took me a minute to see that. If you turn your phone you can watch the interview. I was like, why is this shit on YouTube or anything like that? But like you could you if you have Spotify on your TV, you

could watch it. There I'm talking about on my phone, like turn screen just audio really yeah, and when you turn it to the side it shows a fucking video. Yeah. So he took me a minute to figure that ship out. But that was dope mm hmm. Listening ship like that, like what outside of your ship? Like, what's what podcasts you listen to? Gillian wallas Man Man that was worth against. I listened to the like news podcasts for the most part, like political stuff like people debating and arguing and stuff

like that. Honestly, like, I do my job and then I like get done with it, and it's like, do I really want to listen to like somebody I know interview somebody I already interviewed about a bunch of shit that I already know. You know. It's just like that that would be if I was like singularly focused on being the best like hip hop commentator that I could be, That, I guess is what I would do. But it's think it's old to meate. What do you mostly get your

news from? Adam? I mean I listen well, I read the New York Times daily. I really like, I listened to a bunch of different podcasts, honestly. I listened to, uh, honestly with Barry Weiss. I'm really into Sam Harris. Uh. There's a bunch of different people I listened to. And the Twitter feed is just you know, that's really where I get like a huge percentage of my news. Twitter is where it's at. Twitter is Twitter, But yeah, Twitter is where you get news and where they don't censor

the porn bitches. I would say that news and nudes, news and newds you have to go into your settings and allow yourself to view that. Because now we have like a plug talk Twitter, right, and I didn't change that setting on it, and I'm looking at girls' pages and realizing, like, you can't see I don't even think you're gonna look at my girl's Twitter unless you've enabled

sensitive coming. My Twitter used to be so bad. Anytime I open it, it would just be like like a butthole or some shit or a pussy, like just I think that was Twitter in general because I don't be watching that ship and they need to be there, bro, because what it is is if someone you're following likes a picture of a bitch, yeah, no, it'll pop up so like you know, you ain't even asking for it, and it's it's I'm like, fucking even, I gotta be

adam Nick. They've made it a lot less likely that you're gonna see porn on Twitter, though, I think at this point they've made it so it's a lot it's like really suppressed, Like Okay, a dude, I know did a porno scene that it was fake, but he basically like had this girl that he that he was managing or working with or whatever. He had her like act like she was sucking a bums dick, but really it was like male porn star guy that was like dressed up like a bum which, by the way, if you're down,

let's do this. And she, uh, she's sucking his dick in this alley and I quote tweeted it and actually and just acted like I thought it was real, and I was like kind of trawling or whatever. And I go to look at it at the end of the day I was doing podcasts. I forgot go look at it. Eight hours later, had like five likes on the tweet. This dude is so shadow band that I quote tweeted them with eight hundred something thousand followers and it got

five likes. Like somehow, this dude is in a very very special category of not the shadow You know what's crazy is the shadow band ship. I just realized recently

is like real. I used to well, I used to think it was a thing that like people who felt some type of way about them not being as popping as Yeah, because I know people who lost sometimes it is, man, it's because I'm fucking shadow band because I posted about the vaccine, Like, shut the fuck up, bro, you got twelve hundred followers it and now you're getting like, you know, thirty likes instead of thirty seven likes, and you're the

fucking algorithm turn against I'm typing like, you know, Hollywood unlocked, because you know, we do the radio show every day. Don't pop up, don't pop up, Academic academics, don't pop up. But then Josh was showing me that he types in AKA and academics pos right up and has a shadow been from my account. No, probably because he always goes to it. I go to Academics all the time for news and ship some some girl shitting and pop up

our Hollywood locks. I just did it, Hollywood. Don't you've had girls on the Patreon when you had to type in every single last letter ye to get their name, And then I would go to try to tag him in the photo and it just erases the tag, like you know what, I fucking don't like they keep demonetizing my fucking show for no fucking he says, motherfucker, this week is monetized. That's what it was that then because he starts this podcast going off, it's the motherfucking end

of the day. Yeah, I think, uh, you really aren't supposed to swear in the first minute, or I'm gonna say, like, you probably know better than anyone. What's because we've had that happen to us where minutes Well you would probably know better. I don't know so much more on the first minute. But then also, I mean, like the blue jasmine and sharp thing just got age restricted and demonetized. Even though we edited out her saying the fucking F word towards them, the F A G G O T word.

That word has put the rest. I can't say no more, be kicking it. No, you call my best friend that who's a straight male. By the way, what I'm saying what I've been friends with, I mean, you know, my best friends since childhood. Like that's the terminative evendearment. Yeah, what's the dude's name who's on Dave Andrew Santino. I saw him. I saw him open up for Joe Rogan and he was he was saying like, I want to

claim that word back. Well, he white, he could probably get he would saying like in the sense of like I want to be able to call my best friends that word and not have people look at me crazy. The only time I want to say it is when I'm really mad, which I think is when people really don't want you to use it. Like if somebody fucking hit my car, that's what that would be. What I

would want to stream it. You fucking yeah these days, but no, Like the other day, there was a kid, like an employee of somebody else who was at the house filming something, and he's like, he thinks he's like an edgy, funny like guy. He thinks that he's like, you know, real like funny comment comedian type guy. And he said it like you fucking like he said it to like somebody else he was with, and it was like everyone was like, you know, that shit sounds hell

abrasive now, you know, like I hear about it. My thing is like, if you're in mixed company, I feel like the way you should talk a completely different. Yesterday, I'm playing poker and everybody kept trying to ask me

about the porn ship. But there's like a random girl sitting next to me that I don't know her, and I don't want to fucking have her hearing me talk about this ship if it was just the boy and you guys want to ask me about it, all right, fine, I'll talk about it, but I'm not like trying to have these graphic conversations in front of civilians that didn't sign up to have that ship said in front of him, you know, not for sure. I feel like the way I talked to like my closest homies, if you recorded

those conversations, we'd be done. Yeah, every I mean like, like, like that shit happened with John Gruden. He called Roger Goodell the F word, even though you know Roger Goodell's obviously, but you know he was talking to one of his best friends. Done took a statue down. He called me mayonnaise boy, Mayonnai's boy, Manna's boy, porn man. I teared up, a man. Look at Nico Blitz getting free fucking plug

with the fucking who's the lunch table? Nobody, nobody. Hey, I'm gonna ask you about this, like and even you like, because I feel like you're where you are obviously a lot of people know where no jumper is right, so many interviews have happened. You know, you have secure. I know you have security, right brother, but like la is hot right now? Oh yes, it's fucking crazy. I just saw the video of the lady with her fucking with a stroller. Disgusting. I'm trying to Yeah, his wife got

fucking dude. And then there was the other video that came out last night of the dude who was getting robbed and then he fucking shopping two guys. They're like bleeding out in the fucking street. Yeah, I mean, but like, how do you, like do you move like with that ship in mind? Oh yeah, I mean if somebody want to try to do something to us, you know, I mean, you could shoot it out. It'd be pointless. Rob him though, he don't got what I got. My shoes were like

three hundred dollars. I guess that that could be the best. Like, like obviously from your background and like I'm you know, I think that the edd shit getting infused into the streets was Oh for sure, that was the worst shit ever because so much money was coming in. I feel like everybody who never had money got a taste of what it was like to have, you know, be able to live freely for a little while, and they don't want to go back to that. So niggas is just

going crazy. But I mean, look, I always tell everybody keep your blaming. They let us so many people from the prison too. Bro. There's so many people that were supposed to be doing twenty years that are holiday times

though it's holiday times kids. The other thing too, is is like it's also a little bit like in La if you're like a law abiding system, it's a lot harder to defend yourself than if you're in Phoenix, Arizona and you can have you know, they make it very hard for you to try, like yo, Like I think you have to have the bullets and the clip separated, and you have to have it registered and you have to have your fucking permit to even do that. That's

why we're all getting concealed carried. Yeah. Well yeah, well it just is crazy because it's like, you know, I don't know, man, I feel like, yeah, I tell my wife, I'm like, I don't wear your wedding ring when we go and see and that's and and that's where it's fucked up, because like women, children, old people should be off the fucking table. If you catch a rapper slipping, you know what, I'm saying they drunk leaving the club or whatever, you know what I'm saying, that's still wrong.

But the fact that bro that, like you said, a law bidy, a citizens, bro are are fearful to even go outside and go eat, and you can't do na that shit. That' shit that's bum shit. And you know, the gun laws, it's all fucked up, and I think I think, like, honestly, the laws have to be stricter on people doing this ship right now. That's that's honestly how it's gonna stop. That dude who drove his car through the parade and killed like five six seven people

or whatever and hit like forty people or whatever. I heard that he had beaten the ship out of his ex girlfriend like a week earlier, less than a week, and they let him out one thousand dollars bell. Yeah, example, what's the the story of your homeboy? This guy was just like had all this child molestation charges and stuff. They let him out and he kidnaps his rappers girlfriends and kills her. It's just like you know what I mean,

like like, yeah, the justice system is fucked up. Germ is like a rapper that's like he's been on tour suicide boys. I always yeah, and he was in a relationship with this girl. I feel bad but even dragging this up, but like he fucking you know, she's coming

home from work. I think she was a bartender, and the fucking like a dude like follows her home from a gas station or some ship and fucking takes her into his car and like Germ like sees it out the window like as it's happening and tries to run down and the guy drives off, and I mean, it's a super fucked up he killed her, and and and then Germ also had to deal with all these bum ass bitches on Twitter and ship basically acting people acting like and he had just got out of Jill for

a gun case too, so he was not able to like have and his car was blocked in. Yeah, he really wouldn't have been able to do shit no matter what he did. And then people are trying to like act all high and mighty on him. That's what really pissed me off about it. But yeah, tough man, it's a scared world we're living in. Do we do we feel like California is too liberal because I'm a liberal motherfucker.

I voted for Bernie in the primary. You know what I'm saying, Like, but crime keeps getting worse, and the Republicans run on being tough on crime as opposed to, Okay, defund the police. It's out, it's over. You get to talk about defunding the police when crime seems like it's going down, like, we don't need these motherfuckers. As soon as you have a fucking homicide spike like this, bro, Any any politician whoays defund the police, you are not

getting elected, period. Smarten the fuck up. Because I like being a liberal. I like being a Democrat, But I mean they're making it really fucking tough at a certain point, when you're letting everybody out, when everybody's scared, when everybody's scared for their family. I mean, be fucking serious, This state will turn red if they keep going the way they're going. Yeah, no, it's I don't know if it will ever turn red. But nah, I don't. I don't.

I don't know because when you look at it, if you look at California, the parts that are liberal, that are extremely extremely liberal are La in San Francisco and the whole goddamn thing is read besides that, so it's not as open and shut as also, like when Gavin Newsom got recalled, Like it's not like the Republicans had somebody who was really like, yeah, they had crazy people running like like like Larry Elder was saying some wild shit, yeah you know what I'm saying, Like it was what

was Caitlyn Jenner? And it's like like if they had maybe like a reasonable yeah person, Well, there are a bunch of bozo's for sure, Like I mean when you look at the GOP, it's there are a bunch of fucking clowns for sure. But I mean, as you saw with Trump, like when people like are really convinced that there's something to be scared of, then they will go with a clown who's pushing some authoritative bullshit and authoritarian bullshit.

And I just don't really I think now that it seems like people really do have something to be scared of. I mean, they're gonna turn against these fucking politicians who

are enabling this. Yeah, I think as crazy as like we just got through four years of Donald Trump, right, who normalized a lot of fucked up behavior in the country, and like you said, the authoritarian shit is really some Nazi shit that like if you really look at like how Hitler did his shit and started very and you know, I'm not saying he's Hitler, but just the way they each of them started their political careers very similar in the antics that they were using. At the same time.

I voted for Joe Biden, and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Like what is going on with this fucking guy? Like he's like the most he's so unpopular right now, and then meanwhile, they got Kamala Harris. They can't run her because she's even more unpopular, so she's like the most unpopular vice president of all time,

which I mean, I'm just gonna stay the obvious. He said he was going to give it to a woman, and then he has he boxed himself in, he bosts himself in and he basically like had to choose a female person of color, so he picked the most unpopped. Like this is why, like you don't really want to be given opportunities via affirmative action, right because then when it actually comes down to it, like and you can't

get anything done because people don't like you. It's like you probably didn't want to be in this position in the first place, right, Yeah, that's what would either of you guys ever leave California. Ever, it's hard to imagine. I think the only place that would make sense is if I had to go anywhere else, I'll go Arizona. I was gonna say Vegas because there's no state tax, and it's it's just right there. I feel like I

have to be around. No you do, ship, you do, at least at this point in my No, no no, no, I mean that's why I'm just thinking, like, if there was ever a place, I think Vegas would be the place Hawaii. I mean, I mean in terms of if you were to move no jumper somewhere, the only the only place that would make sense that's close to Las Vegas, and I guess Vegas. From Miami or Austin, Land, there's like very few would make sense. I love, I wouldn't

go to Austin at all. I lived in Austin for a while and I loved it, but I was like ten years I went to Joe Rogan's ship in Austin and that ship was very not what I expected it to be. Really, yeah, like a studio. Yeah, I was a fred fred Durst Freddie Gibbson. Oh yeah, So we went out there and uh it was like in a you know, you would expect it to be like a big, like a fucking compound. It's totally not that. It's like it's like in between a doctor's office and like an

X ray office, and it's hard in a business. Uh, just like a you know, wow, I never would have thought that, but you know on fucking Hollywood Way, they're building those new spots where the Amazon shit is. Yeah, like by the airport, it's like looks like that. It's just teacher has a space and you would never ever like, no, it's Joe Rogan that's there because it's literally a like an active doctor's office and like another he's in between

two just normal businesses should docks him right now. No, I can't see where he's at, but but I mean he's got security and ship. But it's just it was just totally like, oh ship, this is not what I think barstool like looking at this ship was like whoa, that's like you went to their ship. No, I'm talking about I've seen like the drone footage that they put out yesterday of like their compound and all their shows. That's what I would expect Joe Ship to be like

until you see the next note Jumper. Oh yeah space because we copped like a crazy ass building. Are you moving out of the one in? Yeah? What's your rent there? Every weeks? But uh, what like a lot or much? Right? You cluged me with your landlord. But that is kind of crazy because like I don't know, it just feels like we're gonna be able to get summer staying in the valley. Yeah, yeah, the valley's you know. Shout out

to the valley man, I love it. Yeah, shout out to the But you're not in the valley, like as far as like where you don't live over here, unlike you up here in this world north of La World. Adam, real quick man, before before we end things, because I know you got a busy day. What would be you know, for your from your perspective, some advice you would give content creators that are are up and coming porn. I'm

just kidding. I guess my main thing would just be to like find what you have going for you that makes you exciting or that is exciting that you're around. You know, like when I look at like because you know, se Cheese came up very much like during No Jumper already kind of being popular. I don't know, maybe he's

doing it longer than me. He's been around for a while, but you know, when I look at his shit, he like really found all these interesting people and like interesting up and coming artists, like largely down South, you know, and like just did hell of content with them and built a huge brand that gets mentioned all the time as one of the most relevant brands in rap music media these days. And I mean he did it by just being like really authentically into the ship that was

going on in his area. And I mean it's like, You're not gonna move to l A and just be like all of a sudden competing with Glad Adam who like etcetera, etcetera, all these I'm not competing with y'all. I'm just we just getting started, you know. Just dope, though, is gonna be tough. You're gonna have to find a game. He was, you see, he was sick. He was like, how did hed Wizard is your homie? How did you get bootleg? Hem? How did he get him first? So

you you you up there with him? I was just trying to light the fire under your ass and get you bro all these famous friends. And then meanwhile, you you know you podcast with you know bro because the honestly, for my show, artists don't fucking work well, why they don't. You are telling me that you wouldn't want to sit down and have an hour long conversation with the game on camera. Fras, that's different. That's a personal friend. That's why I say, like personal your show isn't necessarily a

but it's like more like showting this shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you don't have personality, you can't take a joke, You're not going to work on my show. If I were you as a broadcaster, I would want to also be having those conversations and using your resources, your relationships, just because I mean, you're in a unique position. You have access to people that a lot of people would kill to be able to interview personally. I would do it. I would say, like, you know, I haven't.

I mean there's been a couple of times where like I've gotten shit because I'm like like the wishit right, like wiz trust me. You know, Will's one of my best friends in the world. You know what I'm saying, So like that was a no brainer. But I'm like very careful about like calling in like the homie favors. I'm like, yo, if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. Like That's how I feel like. Our first episode was with Fred and Fred Durst. No, Freddie Gibbson not a friend?

Are you not a fan of Fred? No? I like it? Man, second time you got I do like Fred Dorst. Yeah, shout out to Fred Durst. Have you ever interviewed readers? No epic ras? It looks like a goat now significant other man? Yo. By the way, side note music that didn't age well limp fucking bisky. I would have told you that, and like they were my favorite band in ninety seven, and I would have told you that in ninety eight. Bro, Now I disagree because now it sounds

great to me. The only song that sounds great is the fucking in Together now that Premo produced, Because all that other ship, I'm like, Yo, Nookie was so terrible. This guy he's trying to rewrite history. Corn age corn aged well, I still fuck with corn like that, Like you know, there was like corn kid Rock and Limp Biscuit were like the big three. Kid Rocks a piece of shit, yeah for sure. Really, oh, kid Rock is like the worst. I know, he's like Republican now but no, no,

he's like disrespectful though. Really he's got a he's got a mixed child. So you people forget or people m that before before kid Rock was like nineteen ninety eight kid Rock. Kid Rock was like an aspiring rapper for years and years, like a regular ass, like a song or two short he was signed before he did the BOT and then he kind of blew up as this like party animal. You know. Kid Rock is a one

hundred percent like Maga the fuck out though. Yeah out there, Yeah he's there's like a whole are you hip to the Maga rap? It's like a whole dark really, I don't think bruh, it's bad. Really, there is this entire world because you know, I'm cool with like a lot of white rappers, Jelly Rolls, my boy ritz Y, you know Yellow these are my people, right, there is a fucking underbelly of hip hop. And there's like one dude

who's black, who's a Maga rapper. I forget his name, but there are like three or four dudes who are when they dropped their number one on iTunes. Wow, really, I don't know, uh man, it's crazy. He's familiar with I don't know their names. I don't want to give him love. No, I don't want to give them love. I know one of their names because they're beefing with my boy CASKI. But there's like a there's a guy named Burden. I had rits on here like a couple of weeks ago, and I just shout I shot on

all those guys. I'm like, yo the fuck like, And it's crazy because that world, like when we think of like white rappers, like a lot of you know you, there's a lot of those kids that the only rapper that they fuck with his yellow Wolf. I'm like, oh, I wonder what. I wonder what it could be about yellow Wolf and Eminem that you like so much? You

know what I'm saying and everything else. You listen to his credence and fucking Tim McGraw, and yeah, that's how I used to feel when Eminem came out and on the rock radio station in my town they started playing Eminem and I'm like, so you guys have ignored every rap song ever, and it's not like he's doing like alternative. Yeah, and like, for some reason, this guy who's basically making rap music. It's a little weird, but it's it's rap music, and like this is okay with you, Like this is

the most racist thing. And this is the most incredible evidence of your radio station not really being about type of music. It's about the alternative. Alternative stations would start playing M and M rap songs and it'd be like, like, what, it's just because he's white. You know who who who? Recently, some similar happened with me. When you're a rock fan having to hear eminem my name is on the radio, you probably be so mad. Their music transcended to rock

radio was run the jewels. They work their record but that makes more sense. Their music is very alterned, like and these days the line is really kind of blurred, don't you think we're like Also, let me be the person to tell you guys, radio is fucking again. It's that Streets is a myth. Streets is Troy aff I'm gonna say a right, Troy A all right, Troy. Yeah. The radio shit is like if you want to go

number one on Bill got to do it. You need radio, but if you want to be successful or you're an up and coming artist, it should be the very last thing you're worried about. Motherfuckers actually think if I played like their song at eleven o'clock at night, it's going to change their life. There's also dudes with two hundred followers that think if I interview them that they're going to be famous, and it's just it's not entitlement. Man.

You're gonna get the record for the least viewed No Jumper interview in history, and that's probably not what you want. Did you ever have a you I saw you just have violent j on. You've had ICP on a couple of times, right, Did you ever have a fucking era of life coming up when the Psychopath Records was in your rotation? You want to hear an embarrassing story to end this, because we kind of go, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in eighth grade and it was Halloween and I

genuinely liked ICP at this time in my life. It's just a great MALINKO era. Yes, and me and a couple of my friends wore our ICP paint to school and there was a dude that I had beef with because we were friends when we were in seventh grade. Now I'm in eighth grade, and I had realized that he had stolen some jinkos from my house. He stole shop pants ever from my house. So me and him

had to fight in the woods after school. So I'm fighting this dude who's way smaller than me, but props to him, he did choose to throw hands, and a bunch of the paint had kind of been rubbed off my face at this point as a result of us fighting. And my mom is driving home from work and she sees me on the side of the road, like off, like in the cut a little bit, but she sees

me for some reason. It's really weird. She sees me, and she pulls up and she gets to see her fourteen year old son with his insane clown paint dripping off his face, beating up a kid in the woods over jinkos. And I would say that that probably feels like one of the low points of my life. Nothing like are you down with hash brown Town? Nothing like how fucked up? My cousin was a Jinko wearing kid and the bottom of his jeans just so ripped up in That was the style for a lot, just destroyed.

But either that or you would cuff them like eight times, or you'd cuff the fuck out of a jeans or something. Yeah, pants, the fucking pockets with the size of the TV. That's crazy because they hit a two and they were popping out of LA. But like I guess probably not Encompton so much, dude, Jinkos were away. It was like the white trash fucking Jinko pants a two liters amount. I didn't know you could spend sixty dollars on a pair of pants until Jinko's. I mean, I was like they

had like the stitch ship in the pockets. Yeah, you have like an elephant, like a graffiti style elephant embroidered on the pocket. They probably missed so much money. Man. They keep trying to sell that company every couple of years and they try to bring it back and it's a fuck. Listen, appreciate you pulling up uh when you're putting out music, brohywhere him. I'm shooting the video Saturday, all right, just stacking up everything. Only fans videos are

is your only fans coming to Man, you're in a relationship. Yeah, but actually if it don't mean nothing, if his album don't sell, then he might be on only fans. So everybody else please don't listen to it. Buy my ship. I'll have to join the porn. Man. We're out with this nigga. Proud of this guy for not being at every night club that Trey Songs is at. You know, Trey, can I get another bottle? Hey man, we're in Vegas right now. We at Cosmo tonight with Trey Song. I'm

just playing. You saw that the accusations are just what happened, So you got to accuse of sexual assault like last weekend in Vegas at the Cosmo. We didn't do it. Man, free tray there it is