#118 - Rittz

We're in Phoenix, okay, yeah, yeah, but dude, you're killing it. Bro. Thank you for still being my friend after all this fame and fortune and I really appreciate it, and after you know, just getting to know you as an actual human being and still deciding, you know, I'm still associated with this guy, Like yeah, that's kind of up in the air, like right, it's like, hey, maybe not, thank you sweet jacket and the same with me. Oh yeah, well it's the hell of a jacket you got on.

It's a do you want a jacket? It's like if you're going to do a jackacket? Oh, do you want a jacket? Jacket? Do you want a jacket? Jackets? Do you want a jacket. Jacket. Yeah, now you know what it is, though, I swear to god this ship works. Been playing these crowds on these tour man when you get a shiny ass jacket, especially Michael Jackson, has such an impact. Even if you're fat, red headed and all that shit, you get a fly ass jacket. It's crazy. I'll come out on stage and the like and they

want a jacket. Well they just look and they want a jack They probably do. They want to jack you off. Most of them are men, but unfortunately most of them are men that have bo and the hatchet man. Yes, yes, but me and me and my DJ Chris Crisis, we have a We do have a thing though, Like when I take my jacket off, he just a little cow. No no, no, no no no, I saw it today. Yeah yeah, shout out to Chris Crisis. Hell of a tour DJ. Yeah oh yeah, yeah for sure. But good with the

fig figities. Oh that's my dog man. I love him to do with the wicked, wicked brother. You can scratch his ass off. He's my brother. But as far as the jacket goes like herd, he's got a big dick too. Anyway, continue you that's what you say, Chris crist never seen his dick? Chris Christis, don't you brag about how big a dick is? It's no or are you just telling the truth? No, no, you gotta cut yo. We're on the street crisis. Someone's play right now. Come on camera

and talk about your dick real quick, Chris. No, yeah, he's done, he's good. That's what happens to buffers with a big dick. They don't They don't need all that kickstand Chris over there camera, Yeah, no thanks, I don't have to talk about it. You want to see it, see it in real life. Yeah, I'm on tour sixty seven more days with no way. We don't need to make this montherfucker's head any bigger of us, any bigger than it literally is. Let me ask you. Yeah, you're dude,

I can't believe I'm here. By the way, keV move, I've been watching you. I've been stuck in. I interviewed you a million times. I know, but like, man, you're you're like a huge celebrity. Now, man, I'm you know what's crazy? Do you remember the night the worst night of my life? You were there when I ate edibles? Oh oh, yeah, you flipped your ship and you flipped out. I interviewed you on the bus and Miss Dimples was there and we were hanging out and I was like, Bro.

I was like, Bro, I had an edible. I don't I don't even remember. Like, it didn't hit it didn't hit me. But you went on stage and I lost my fucking mind. Dude. You know it's crazy. I tell the story all the time because it's the worst night of my life. You know what's crazy about that is like like me having anxiety or like, man, I used to be like you know, not to be like laying

as hell. Everybody smokes weed, but I used to be like snooped all back in the day, I could smoke, you know, I get mad if somebody rolled down the window. But as I got older, shit made me paranoid and I smoke. Now I'm hot right now, you know what I'm saying. But it's like, you're fucking ass. I felt bad for you, Bro, I had way too much edibles and I was hallucinating. Bro, you were performing and I'm in the crowd, lifted next to me, my best friend

jails next to me. I couldn't move my legs. I feel like or planet in the floor and you were sitting next to you on stage was Garfield, a cat with with with slot machine eyes. I know when you came backstage and talked to me afterwards. I was puking outside. I was puking outside. I was throwing up. And then all the wild ship that could have happened to someone while being tripping balls happened. Like some Native American dude came up to me in the fucking alley and was

like telling me about his dribing shit. And I thought he wasn't even there, but he was really there, so get the fuck away from it. And then yellow and then Yellow Wolf's fucking tour manager, Brooklyn, beat the living ship out of some dude right in front of me while I'm tripping balls. This was a Club Red. This is Club Red in Tempe, Arizona. Dude. Can I tell a story about Brooklyn real quick? It's a funny one, not the one just don't tell the stories earlier. No,

no, no no, no, no no, not that. But like, like you know, so I don't ever get I was telling you earlier, Like people don't ever ask me questions like that. I really like to share that. I think my fans would like to hear, right, So Brooklyn and I don't want to knock this guy in his because I'm a cool

motherfucker man. I respect the local rapper. Right. So we're at this local show in Florida, right, there's this crew of rappers and they're doing that thing, and I'm trying to get be cool with the local guys because I respect him, you know what I'm saying. Especially they're deep and all that shit. Not even know, no tough shit, just trying to be cool with him. So I'm shaking their hands when I'm doing all that. So I do that,

do the meet and greet. I come back about four or five hours later, and these guys they did their set. They probably got all their homies out there filling themselves. You know what I'm saying. They're having a great time. Which if I could have opened up for me or whoever back then, either way, I would have been having the best night in my life. So this guy was feeling himself so much. My ass gets up on there, he yo and shout out to all the motherfucker openers

in this bitch. Everybody's struggling trying to wrap This dude gets up on stage. Oh it's me. Brooklyn comes outdam fuck them up, dude, kick them so hard in the back. Yo, that motherfucker Brooklyn did not play. I felt so bad for the kid man. He was the main guy. But yeah, I mean, dude, I'm not calling out no names. I don't even remember and shout out to you for what city in Florida was this? I don't know one of them, crazy ass white boy would gold t cities? All of them? Yeah,

all of them? Yeah, you know I'm right away. I'm in, you know, in Atlanta, the same ship. But wow, man, I felt bad for the guy. Brooklyn came in and like, hayata is that? Oh yeah, I was what I was talking about earlier too. I actually got in a fight one time, but I let I did some bitch ass ship and I let Brooklyn start it and I just jumped in and got some cheap ones. I walked away with a limp. Afterwards. I was like, man, yeah, I shouldn't be I should be doing that shit. You know

what's crazy about Florida is you. When I first moved to Florida, you and Jelly Roll did a concert. Yeah, some random ass hotel. No, No, I drove to Orlando. Okay, you guys had a random ass show in Orlando, and this is the first time I ever met Jelly Roll. That's when we that's when you heard the Chief Jinks when we was in the hotel. Yeah yeah, he played me his white floor here. Yeah, yeah, boy, Yo. If y'all don't know, there's a rapper named Chief Jinks hot

a shit in the streets. So like if you like Llo Cooldie and flow Rider but being a dick, but that Chief is my boy, and I love Chief. By the way, I love Chief one of my favorite people. I was a little disappointed he wasn't on tour with you. Yeah yeah, if you like Flow right alone and Pitbull, but you're looking for the white version of that Chief Jinks. Me and you were walking through the fucking streets, Chris Christ's favorite guy. Go ahead, no, but I remember that

me and you were walking through the streets. And by the way, Kev's a wild man. So anybody watches his interviews and like I said that, somebody like wild man. No no, I mean much respect to his family and everything else, but like, Kev's a fucking maniac. So like anytime people are like, yeah, dude bootle like keV who interviews everybody. No, this dude's a he's the rapper, motherfucker. We're just sitting here. He's the party. So anyway, anyway, No,

but yeah, where was it? We were in Orlando and that night it is the first time I met Jelly and then I end up at Mike Busey's Sausage Castle. You were at my room. We talked about what to expect that the song, and you were like, Bro, I'm not going to go. You go, though, trust me, you're gonna want to go. Okay, can we do this real quick because this is a good moment to do this to my wife. I did not go the Sausage Castle. No, you stayed back. I sent him because I didn't want

to partake. This is awesome. Thank you for giving me this validation. No, yeah, you stayed at the room because I didn't want to do it. But I warned you what she was about to deal with. It was like, you were like, bro, you should go. It'll be fun and I and I would like to go as an outside of but it I don't want to get in trouble. Man. Man, Mike Busey man shout out to him and that motherfucker is the maaming So we end up, Yeah, what happened. So listen, this is the first So so Mike Busey

is Gary Busey's nephew, cousins whatever. Yeah, And by the way, Mike Busey to this day is my boy. Like we talk a lot, so great. God's my guy. One of the most giving, open hearted and humble dudes ever. So he has he doesn't look at the time. I meet this dude at the show and I'm like, who's this goofy ass white dude with the crazy hair and the tattoo, with belly with random bitch with the balls shown. Yeah, and You're like, bro, listen, he's got this house. You

gotta go. So I just moved to Florida, and I'm like, fuck it, let's get into some Florida shit. So I go over to my I got over to my busy's house. It's literally on the swamp in the middle of fucking Florida outside of Orlando. Jealous to because I was sitting there like this house is like the House of a thousand Corpses meets Juggalos meets the Playboy Mansion. Yeah, so there's a fish tank with dildos in it. This is like five years ago. This is this is the old house.

So he's got a new house now. Yeah, this is two thousand and fourteen. It's a long time ago. Okay. Yeah, he had a fucking drill with it at the end. This motherfucker had a stripper pole. He had glory holes throughout the house. Oh my god. Yeah, pocket pussy's installed in the wall. Here's how lame I am. I couldn't wait to talk to him about his experience out doors. Like, he's got a giant bro, He's got all these machine guns. He's got pigs, alligators, pugs, maybe fucking all kinds of shit.

And the first time I meet Mike Beusy, he is like the most like loving dude ever. Right, he is a great guy. And I don't know him that well, but I know him enough to like, I got love he bro. He So he starts showing me these sex tapes he has because his whole house is like filmed at all times. So he's like, yo, check out this sex tape of me and random white rapper with a bunch of tattoos. A and random white rapper with a bunch of tattoos, b three way in this whore. Hey,

you know what I want to tell you this. I'm not gonna say who they were now, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, No, because you might have been expanding on that. No, No, I'm done. I will say this though. I don't like I was telling crisis this when a guy's like, hey, I was having a sex tape and then and it's just their little it's just their wig in the going, it's like a point of view was that pov? POV? I don't want to see your dick going in and out, motherfucker.

I want to see like you want to see the bitch. Plus it's awkward, like that's great a fucking jose, Like if I get my busy to answer a FaceTime this crazy bastard. This guy's a fucking maniac. He is a maniac. This guy is like, what was the point of view or no he was showing No, it was surveillance footage. Oh he had so you saw, like and they're like high fiving and like I hate that weird ship where it's like, hey, here's me and it's just like just a bunch of dick going in the in and out

of Vagina and ship tons of dick. Yah. Now he's not answering, it's he's in Florida. So what time is it. It's late. It's like we're on bootleg kevtime right now. The text night bootleg goes all night. Man, it's moll Ferger's on some dope. Yeah, he just texts me. He'll call. I just told him what we're doing. That guy gonna wake up for this. His ringer was probably off. He'll probably call back. Dude. He does a fucking do you know Every Veterans Day he has some chick named Jenny

Jizz at the Sausage Castle. Jenny Jizz at the Sausage Castle. Nice, and this motherfucker, Mike Busey invites all veterans to his house. This fool will have like two or three hundred veterans at his house and this Jenny Jiz bitch sucks them all off. Wow. So, if you're a veteran and you live in central Florida and you want to blowdrop on Veterans Day, all you gotta do is pull up to the Sausage Castle and Jenny Jizz will serve you in a room. Bro. It's like a room full of like

two hundred dudes, and this bitch is just in the middle. No, she's in the middle, just serving everybody would fucking come all over her fucking face. You know what, God bless you, Jenny Jizz. I think that's her name, Jizz is in it. Yeah, either way, whatever your name is aka Jane Jizz. But yeah, that's dope. That's dope. I couldn't do it. It could be one of those veterans and be in a room

with like two hundred other dudes. Yeah, but you know what, imagine if you're like one nine, You're like, damn, this pitch has a belly full of sperm right now. Yeah, I'm at the end of the line. Showed up late, get you going there, And she's like I'm definitely, Like she's definitely fifty two. Oh well, that's even better. And he was telling me like her husband's there in films

at all, Like he gets off on that ship. Most of the guys that are coming out, they're probably like insecure and they just want to like jerk off in Jimmy's mouth sore, like scared and ship and then like finally they're like one fifty nine. It's like fuck, yeah, this is no threat, you know, to do that and go eat at Hamburger fucking steak at the fucking shit

barther At afterwards. Anyway, No, so that night. But say, real quick my backhead shout out to Mike Bucy though, because Mike Baucy when you meet him in person, whatever you might think about him or his family relations or his wild characterisms or his dress code, like he he he's serving the community in a positive way. Yeah, jarving him a blow he's might man, I love you, bro. Yeah. No, Jelly Roll was there and I was like, that was the first time I met Jelly Shot to Jelly Roy,

he's fucking killing it. He's killing it. He's amazing. It's great. It's great to see his progression. Yeah. Yeah, And and I've said this about Jelly Roller. Who's calling hold on, well is Mike, Oh my god, you fucking maniac. Oh dog, we've just been than you. Wait wait wait wait we're recording so you Oh I was just talking about Veterans Day blowjobs at your house? Yeah? Who is Jimmy Jiz what's the girl's name is Jenny Jiz? Right? Just giving

a low job back on one at a time. How many guys at one time, Mike, have you had over there on Veterans Day that she's sucked off? I mean had one hundreds come over here to celebrate the party. Have she's sucked off in one party? I think the record's probably around like thirty thirty five, forty. So it just came on at once, like as a part of a crew. What happens is when we do it, we kind of like do it by like, all right, who's

had the most active years in service? If you're missing a leg or arm, that bumps you up to the line. So if someone's amputated, they're ampute, they get up to the front. That'll get you up draft. It's like a blow drop draft, a blow drop draft. Dude, Mike, Man, we've been picking you up. You're a fucking man, Dude. I'm over here. I'm like, yo, I was we were talking about the first time I met you was at a rich show and that night he stayed back and

I went to your house. I was just telling him, that's why I don't That's what exactly what I was saying about you, bro. I was like, yo, Mike seems like this crazy guy. He's very eccentric and all that, but he was like, I can't fuck with you, Mike, because you're a mania. You'll get me in trouble. So I was so excited to hear what went down at the spot and this asshole was talking about fucking yes dog, thank you for your contribution, Mike, I love you. Bro.

Just just take a good look at this guy's face, Mike say hide to the camera. Oh there is there is is he in there? Oh? There is? Just so you guys can see what this crazy bastard looks like. We've we've been talking about you in like fifteen minutes. Yeah, Mike, Man, we really nah, let me see it one Nah nah Man. We really respect you though. Bro, you were the biggest

hardest dudes. I know you're a fucking maniac. But like, besides that, look at this decade since we been together, and we'll still doing our things and it ain't been a decade. Don't age me, Bro. Twenty fourteen. Hey, do you remember when we went to that trailer park in Saint Petersburg and lit ship on fire in front of the fucking brandys were nice, Mike, you and the girls. It takes me to the hollywoodler park. Wait wait, wait, Mike.

Do you remember when I had you guys on the air and this piece of ship had chocolate portole over his naked, hairy body and girls linked it off. Christ Chris, This motherfucker Eric Lauran had chocolate syrup poured over his body live on the radio and had some girl with daddy issues lick it off his belly. Who did him? Oh? Dope together, dude, Mike, Man, you offer so much to the world. Man, you get you get it back. I

hope you get it back in tenfold. Man. I love you all right, Mike, fucking man, Yet, keep keep cooking it up. Yes, sir, We're coming to the Sausage Castle soon. But hey, Mike, when I grow some balls, man, I'm gonna come to the Sausage Castle. Man. I just gotta grow the man. They're getting there. I'll be waiting for your brother. I'll be waiting for you. I love you, bro, all right, man, fucking Mike. Busy night, beausy ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah yeah. If you got a peg leg, if you got a purple heart on Veterans Day, go go get that first in line. Blowy from Jenny Giz. I mean who would. I mean, that's it. That's a real contribution. It is, that's a real Sometimes you need to release. I mean, fuck, man, if I was in a like, you know, not to be fucked up, but like if I was in a bad situation, I mean, he's really offering the service. Right you pull up? I mean, oh, I would pull up your God damn right. Yes. Uh.

You know. You know what's crazy is you've been smoking weed, and I feel like when you and I first started kicking it, you really weren't like a big like you said you used to smoke back in the day. But at the time, I feel like you really weren't like really into smoking like that now because like weed, like so with me, it's weird. It's like, it's cool you

asked that too. Weed is like one of those things like back in the day, it was so weird because like I used to be such a big weed smoker, and it really fucked with me not being that anymore. I didn't know who I was, you know what I'm saying. Without it, so then getting it back or whatever, you know, just smoke at it, tell you a funny ass story. No, So anyway, getting it back it makes me a little paranoid. Sometimes I'm having a good time depends who I'm with,

and I don't like that we weird shit. Yeah, but that never used to be mean, but it is what it is, is honesty. Tell you some funny ass shit. I had a video shoot called like that Fuck I don't want to butcher the name of Shout out to the guys man. Shout out to my boy Scotti at l Man, Shout Scotty at He just opened the grills shop here in LFE. Dude, I'm so proud of him.

He's killing it. So anyway, anyway, it was it was like an Atlanta for twenty song and they had all these Atlanta artists on it, and dude, I was in Corey Moe's house. Shout out Corey, Dude, I'm in his house. And then like you know, there's fifteen twenty blunts around and like, hey, all you got to do is make this eight ball in the corner pocket in the shot, I was so stoned and weird. I couldn't you couldn't

hit it, nah man. So finally I couldn't hit this motherfucker in the pocket because I was so like, well, plus I've been doing all kinds of drugs and all kinds of shit on my homeboys. Was like, man, man, we about a bounce, like you leave me here? Yeah, it's like fifty thousand people here. I'm fucking Stone and shit. Anyway, couldn't make the fucking ball and the thing. Finally I was about to leave, Corey goes yo, Ritz come here, Oh Greg Street, you want to talk to on the phone.

So I'm like, oh no, you know what I'm saying, all Stone and shit. Yeah, and then you know, check this out. This type shit happens to me. So I get in the car, I'm like, oh no, I was don't thank got him out of the house and a fucking cop followed me from to eighty five to eighty five. Yeah, that's the type shit happens to me, man, is what it is. Yeah, look at you looking at me like, well, I've never been in Stone like that? Oh no, I have. Were you with me that day I freaked out at

the party with Dre Sinatra? You did? We just talked about the edibles. No, that was different. Nah, I've but you know what, the only time I've ever been freaked out was smoking because that was an edible thing. But smoking I smoked. I think I smoked sativa and I was fucking bugging, bro. Yeah, it wasn't like I was like bugging, Like it's just you lose your personality and it's like you're just like trying to But I never used to be like that, So it was weird, Like

getting what's it like? Co headlining after leaving Strange Music with Tech It's really cool, man, because like, you know, just Stranger's family, you know, right, no matter what we've been through, you know, the Strange fan base is very fucking loyal. It's like Rits man, we missed you. You know, I didn't go nowhere yeah, nowhere projects since I left. Yeah, we're still friends. Like everything's cool. I'm just trying to make some money for myself and just like further myself

in business. It's like you know, you know, you rent a home to somebody, you or your homeowner, you try to rent, Like this morning you start doing your real estate. Yeah, I mean you dropped. You dropped four projects since you left. Yeah yeah, yeah, put a crown on it, Chris Rich's picture and s O S and I got a lot more coming. So it's like, you know, yeah, either way, it's one of those things. You dropped four projects on

Strange Music. Oh you know, I mean, I mean, I'm saying like that says a lot like you've dropped two thousand eighteen. I'm saying you dropped. You dropped the same amount of shit really project wise, from the entire time you were on Strange for sure, since you've left and those got yeah, since I left, yeah for sure, And like, but it was a different game then, you know, different time, different different way things are delivered to the consumer and stuff.

But man, the thing is that people don't realize. Man, you get so caught up in the who's who and who's what label and who's cool who all this music bullshit at the end of the day's business. And I'm friends with Tech and Travis and everybody on that label, So I got love for them, you know what I'm saying. Like, so it's not like they look at this man you left Strange blah blah blah. It's like, yo, man, this is a business man, like, like these are my friends, right,

What is like for you? You know what for people who don't know, like the success you've had on Billboard, yeah, moving units, like what was like the peak for you as far as like amount of units sold first week, which album was it, and like how many? How many did you sell? I know you were in the twenties and you were, h yeah, it was probably my second album next to nothing. What did that do? Like was it like twenty four? Someone fucked up? I don't even remember.

I just remember it being so important to see that billboard like number three R and B or number one independent or yeah. I just don't think people like recognize the amount of like what happened, actual numbers you've done. Yeah, yeah I did. I did some numbers. They weren't like reading,

they weren't devastating, but they were very impressive. They were cool. Yeah, and and unfortunately, man for me now unfortunately, Actually it's just just part of my story is like I came in the game right when people stopped buying albums, so I was like, your album, I was right on tail end. But I had a friend though I'll tell you what

we was talking about, but she this motherfucker shot. He was like, hey, we went into Best Buying ship and because they were on like display, it was like the last time Best buy was going some shit on display. And I was like, dude, this ship sold like twenty thousand. He was like, but you gotta think though, like one person probably bought more than one copy. So yeah, I was like, what the fuck? No, I fuck with him,

still about it, still about to this day. I feel like I feel like Chief Jans Strives a challenger or a charger. He does, he does, he does, he does. He definitely does. I do too. I do too, but not like ch Jenks. But shout out to my boy. But back on the album shit though, like no rims on it too, right, I don't want to get lost all Yeah, back on the album shit. Sorry, back on the album ship because my I feel like my fan base really care about like music, and yeah, like there

are a lot of like aspiring artists. So yeah, it was weird, like I got on like right when it was like when you think when albums are moving and what's happening on the Billboard charts and where you rank at all. The ship the streams changed everything up, and you know, things things happen. But I was very fortunate, you know what I'm saying. But uh, it's weird though, trying to judge yourself now because your mindset is still there.

But that's not how to be judged. You know, I was gonna say, like, because I feel like you've done a good job, because I know there was a point time when you left Strange where you were like, man, I got to figure out this whole streaming shit now, and I feel like the answer to that is what you're doing. What a streamership was like this, there's a fucking your cars here, and there's a fucking train coming. You see that fucking train coming for a long time,

and Jesus, hey, here you go. Hold on, this is great. Keep this motherfucker. I hate your guts and I just kidding. So anyway, it's my wife, but not so so. Anyway, So the streaming thing was like a train coming and then you're partner over here, but you don't see the same train coming, and then you try to catch up. You know what I'm saying, what's going on? You know what I'm saying, trying to figure it out? Right, I

don't know. I'm happy with where I'm at though, you know, it's it's the it's the fans and the people on the outside that that that don't really know how it works, you know what I'm saying. So it's just I can't complain. But I feel like the fact you've just been putting out so much catalog is like the answer to that. You just keep feeding it. You got to drop more often now, Yeah, for sure. And that's what I'm and now you got the freedom to do that because you're

fully independent. Yeah, dude. So I just I just dropped S O S, which is like eight records. Everybody's like, yo, eight records. This is not an album. Bro's EP. Bro, And I looked up Thriller. It's nine records. So I'm like Thriller right now. Album? No, I think technically album is more than five. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Either way. It's a you call whatever the fuck you want, That's what I'm saying. So either way, I look at

it now and you get these music guys. You know, actually, Bro, you know, an EP is actually seven records in LP, so it'say, hey, fuck you, no, it's whatever the fuck I want to call it, motherfucker, So you know, and then, uh, but I wanted to put all hard records on here, you know, send them on manager Man shot Freddie Burman, you know, just hearing hear my music was like, hey, you can do whatever the fuck we want right now fast.

You did a Christmas album? Yeah, well that Hey, by the way, my Christmas album to this day is my favorite body of work I've ever made. But you know, so we just realized, hey, put eight hard ass records out there. See what they think? We got a ton of records backed up coming soon. How did Christmas album do? Not good? And well, I won't say not good meaning oh minute bomb, because the same thing. There's no we

don't have any expectations. We're just putting it out, trying to please the fans that really love my music, you know what I'm saying. So the weight of numbers and all that bullshit, it doesn't really matter as much anymore. Yeah, you know what I mean, because it just is what it is. But yeah, so the Christmas album, yeah, it was what it was, and I forgot what the fuck we was talking about. For what was talking about? You were talking about sos and just putting eight records together

that were hardest fuck Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so we put the Christmas album out and then you know, so it was trying to put some new records out. So let me text us cocksucker upstairs to turn that ship down. Sorry, No, it's better because I'm fucking up because I have no idea what we're talking about. Are we talking about spaceships? What we were talking about? Hardship? Smooth? Shit out? What was what you're talking about? I don't remember. That's the West the hardest far because then you got a good

new group of songs. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So now it's like so now it's like I could do whatever I want, you know, I could put out a Christmas album. And that's why I like the Christmas album the most, because it's the most fun. It's the first time I sat down it really had fun. Yeah, and it felt like I was a kid again in the studio and I had a blast. All the songs go together, so if you could look at it like a movie. But oh, that's what we were talking about. We were talking about

how it fucked up. Let me tell you how this delivery fucked up. So Christmas album, you really only have a certain window, right. So the guy who shot videos for me caught COVID on the way back, so the first week when the videos were coming out, he couldn't get him out. So the videos are three weeks late. You know what, I'm saying, or two weeks late, so I mean, you only got two more weeks before Christmas is over. So you know that shit was weird. That

shit fucked me up the timing. You think about just holding off until next Christmas to drop it? No, fuck no, my personal life is going through a fucking downfall funnel goddamn cake at the same time. So it was like it was just a big world win of fuckness. But yeah, if but yeah, we're gonna keep I personally think like, for me, the Christmas album is the best body at

work I've ever made my whole life. And I've been rapping in nineteen ninety two Rismas, Ritchmas and Christmas and of course Christmas safe for everybody, No way, you know what I'm saying. But it's it's a good album. What do you say your personal life is in a funnel cake of bullshit? How are you doing now? What's been crazy? Man? Like you know, I was doing this Saturday sobriety session, doing all the ship for sobriety. I went to know and I went to rehab, got sober. I did the

song twin Lakes Ready for Recovery. It's a great record. Yeah, thank you, man, thank you. And and you know, even people that like don't understand that record, there's there's so many people that, dude, that make it so worth it, you know what I mean. I get it to this day and I did a great job. Man. You know, it's that same though, but it's that alcoholic addict shit. You know, you start thinking you're cocky enough to like, really, I got this, you know, when you fuck up, you know,

So I relapsed. I was probably like a year and a half or even more, almost close to two years sober, relapsed, gotten some terrible shit to happen, and then you know, I've just been in this situation and with Corona, you know, with the COVID shit and us you know, quarantining and just being stuck. You know, it's been a motherfucker. But right now I'm feeling back on my feet, you know what I mean. So it's getting better. It's getting better. But a lot of fans don't understand. And the same thing.

That's what I'm about, you know, I want to be real with the fans, and nobody ever asked me, no real shit, you know what I'm saying. That's what it is, you know, picture perfect came out. You know that was cool, celebrated the Christmas album came out and life went crazy and it it was just like waiting to get back on tour again. You know what I'm saying. You know what's crazy. It's like you always talk about like them you touched on this in your music, like the misconception that you're

like a rich guy. Yeah, yeah, and like financially you've had issues. Yeah, And you know what, I get that all the time. Like it's I'm happy you ask me that because I get that all the time. Like these guys, man, you broke ass motherfucker. It's like telling some guy like these glasses are ten dollars and then they they're like, oh, thank you so much, ne go order ten pairs, and then they say, this is what you keep for working

them ten dollars. Ass classes. So you can't use that against me, bro, you don't know my life, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, you're very transparent, Yeah, very transparent, And I want to be transparent. Right now I've had some money. Here's the thing, man, to everybody who's out there, who's working, who's an artist who I've watched bootleg keV interview period, and y'all might not even know who the fuck I am or respect what the fuck I'm talking about.

Either way, let me tell you something. One hundred thousand dollars is one hundred dollars, two hundred thousand. It all goes away next thing, you know, to be all gone. You'll be happy to get five hundred dollars. You gotta be careful, man, you know what I'm saying. And it's not you blow it. And it's not like you're blowing it all on jewelry and or crazy shit. It's life. Man. You start thinking you're a big shit. You gotta be consistent. And hell, all of us know right now fucking a

fucking pandemic can come. And how mu should that cost you? Oh my god, dude, I mean I didn't work, bro, and like because you do so much live live shows or dude, I didn't work so like before that happened, I was already you know, in debt from doing what I was doing. And and then I started a label. You know when you when you start a label, you get an advance, you know, you do all that. But either way, man, yeah, it fucked me up. I mean,

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that shout out to odd socks. Let's get back to the interview. What was financially what was the best year you've had off of music? Probably around so around two thousand and fifteen, and just strictly from touring and not touring. You know a lot of people hit me up, and this is no dish of stranger. If you were strange, you could be done. No man, When I go on my own tours, you know I make a lot of money. You know, you set up tours, you're selling merchandise, you're

doing all this. You're getting a lot of money. The problem is even a person like I like to consider myself somewhat humble, which might not be humbled even say, but you know, I never consider myself a baller or how much how much was the most man of the year. If you don't might share and like off music. I don't know off music. I know that I had like touring music, although I had like, you know, almost a half a meal in my bank account. Wow, you know.

So it's like when you have that and you man a half, it goes so fast and you went through that sh I went through it helping people. I went through it doing a lot for myself. It wasn't like I went through it like buying cars and houses. I went through it over time. And when I say half a mile, it wasn't up that high. But you know, we're around that era, I mean that area. But I mean, you know, you could fuck off your money, man, try

to be fucking save the world, dude, you can't. What were the things you learned like that you're gonna try to because like I feel like right now you're in a position to probably make more money than you ever have. Exactly exactly what are the things that you learned that you're gonna like try to do differently now that you're well. One, don't don't spend all your time, you know, spend any

of your financial investments that you've made. Well, actually, one I'll tell I say this because Gucci said it the best, and I'm like, not like a Gucci fucking enthusiastic or nothing like that. I'm not hating. I'm just saying I heard this and I thought that was very intelligent. If I didn't if I didn't the last five six years act like this was a fucking party, you know what I'm saying, and really approach it like this is business,

I would have a lot of money right now. But instead I was trying to do like trying to be and I wasn't even buy nothing. Crazy by some sunglasses, by like eight pairs of J's get your homie, like here's twenty grand, here's thirty grand. He was passing out twenty grand as the homies. Fuck yeah, oh yeah, you're you're nice. Yeah so, and but that's not so. I got to a point where I felt like I was like, like, I hope they don't hear this and think that. I'm like,

you know, it's my fault. I did it, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, that's how man. You can't be man. You gotta take the shit serious. It's a window, get your fucking money, you save it up. You know what I'm saying, don't give it away to your friends. Bro, well, you don't do anything but it. Man, grow the fuck up. Stop partying like yo, you're making some money, you have a big career, Like dude, it's time. It's time to look in the mirror and go, oh shit, that party

shit is old. You know what I'm saying. It's hard as an artist though we're using as an excuse like I'm some creative fucking drug guy. Yeah whatever. But yeah, but to everybody out there, man, take that fucking money. Man, save it, give it to your family, give it to your mom and dad, the whole give it to I don't know, figure it out, dude, because you only got so much time and you can make a lot of money doing this shit. What are your thoughts on? This

is weird? And you know it's it's funny because for people who like like obviously, for people who know like you and I have a long history and that stems from my relationship with Yellow back in the day. But what are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on? What are we doing this way? Oh, this fucking white maga rap shit that's popping right now, it's fucking terrible. In my opinion. It's weird, right, So, like, so my homie

Burden was who's absolute shit. Well, I can't. I can't join in with that because just I'm just I can though, Yeah, yeah, I can't. He's an atrocious, atrocious artist anyway, continue No, no no, no, that's that's fine. I can't join in only because being the same thing. I you know, I'm a friend, man. They I was happy to see his numbers go up,

you know what I'm saying. I saw his numbers because you would work with that guy, like back in the day before he was going to work with him, and I knew him as a like, not know him as a person like we're boys, but like know him as like back I just you know, if I meet somebody and I get along with him, I get with him, you know. So I saw what he was doing, and I was happy to see his numbers going up doing what he's doing, and I like, and I'm using him

only as an example. He's he's the type of guy, Burden, man, stop that bullshit. He's the type of guy to be like, be happy. I'm talking about him on here, like oh shit, I'm about to get you know, but now this is real shit, like I like this kid like, like not kid like, I like this guy like he's a good guy and I'm happy his numbers are growing. But the thing is, man, and this is not just Zim. Yeah, it's just I don't know, man, I'm so disappointed in

the human race with all this fucking shit. Man, And I don't want to say Trump shit to get people mad at me, like oh riches are left liberal. It's like, no, just understandable, you know what I'm saying. I'm just I understand. Like if you were to sit here and be like, yo, I love the Mago white boy rap. You're my friend, so I'm not gonna hate you, right right right, you know what I'm saying. I just wish more people would develop that mindset of just being a little bit more understanding.

But yeah, as far as rap goes, but you're asking, and I know you're a see this bootleg keV, he's a dicket. He'll ask you these questions to get the real out of you, and he's he's that's all. He's sitting there waiting on. Yeah, but you're gonna quit being a pussy and answer question. So yes, I fucking hate the fucking way the state of the country is in with all this bullshit, and I hate that it's in

hip hop. Yo, man, this is black music. This is black music, man, period this there's been a lot of bullshit has been going down and everybody on the other side is tripping and it's been fucked up for a long time. Y'all are tripping to use rap music as a quote, as a as a sales pitch for this fucking music, y'all are fucking tripping. Yeah, my thing is, That's what I'm saying. I real quit my bad head because a lot of people might eat me up over that, and I don't have like a I don't want to

piss anybody off. But this is hip hop. You know what I'm saying, and you know what what that side stands for for the most part, and not that everybody, and I'm understandable doesn't. And I open to independent thinkers. I'm open to all that. I'm just saying no, but don't let's not use rap music. I don't care what you feel like in regular society, that's fine, but rap music,

it's black music. And when you're using your music to shit on Black lives Matter and the push and to push Blu, Lives Matter and police I might bro someone get these people to fuck up out of here, Like, man, this is rap music. That's I'm just a hippop. I'll just leave it as simple as that. I'm hip hop, bro,

and that shit ain't cool. But to my friends, it's low hanging froughit for these motherfuckers because they get such easy numbers because there's all these people who at the same time, though, let's be honest, it's not their fucking fault. There's a whole society here that's a less consuming the music to have them. Yeah, I mean, obviously it's working for so let's not like like, let me not ship on them like they're terrible human beings. There's a whole

they're just terrible rappers. There's a whole society cap that. I don't disagree, obviously, there's an entire part there's they have fans. I know you don't disagree. I'm just saying, like, that's how weird it is now, right, you know it's strange, bro, and you know it's gonna be even more strings a year from now. Kev's got one of them on there,

and he's on this show right now. Sitting. He's like, for real, I feel you right now, dude, cause like never but it's like, you know, Caski's the homie mine, and he'd be beefing with these fucking weirdos. And I'm like, bro, who the fuck cares what Adam Calhoun has to say? This guy literally is dropping n bombs on records. Look see this like just goofy ass ship like he tries to start ship. Let me tell you something. I don't know Adam Calhoun. I know Cass, I don't know neither.

I just know that his music is dog shit. I know Burton, and Burton's a friend of mine. I like him a lot. I think he's a nice guy. He makes bad music. I wish him the best, though, But and I like CASKI I don't know Adam Calhoun. It's just such a weird It's it's like this weird white rapper rapper like thing going on that's like developed the last few years. Crazy and you know what, you know, what's fucked up? Though, I mean, do we look at it as a society thing and do we look at

sure business? It's both, yeah, but these I mean, because they're taking advantage of a portion of society that wants to hear that ship. No, I I know, I get that. I'm not saying like if it's bad business. I'm just saying like it's it's a weird time. Man. Well it sucks to because I feel like people look at me like they might talk about this more than they talk about my skills, right, prepare me and do you know? It's just it's unfortunate for somebody that really tries and

loves making music. That's the main part. Because I don't. I don't look on fucking Google in the morning and see what's popular with the fucking president. No one gives a fuck. Man. Let me tell y'all something, man, No one gives a I grew up on Martin Bro Martin in Living Color, the race, sh it's been figured out, like we all cool, we're all trying to work when we're taking so many steps back where this ship is whack as fuck. I don't know where I was going at,

but I grew up in a different era. Man. I ain't with this bullshit. Man. I like, sure, yeah, I don't want to hear this bullshit. Man. I want to hear some hip hop. I want to hear some motherfucker spit. But either way, how did you speak to motherfucker spitting? You were talking about earlier before we were filming. How successful the record with any Pass has been Jedi mind tricks obviously legendary independent yeah movement, Like how did you

guys end up linking up? It was crazy because like I never met Vinnie Pass, and I met him at I finally met him at Soldier Field. We did a show in Soldier Field with like crucial conflict and he passed like there was a crooked eye all these people like it was cool. Man, it was so dope. And I didn't wear Chicago jersey that night because I had Like it was like when baseball jerseys was in style and like two years ago, I thought everybody would have one on, but no one did. I could have won

one of those days. But either way, either way, I did this fucking show and uh man, Vinnie just showed so much love. I'm going to be completely honest, like back in the day, like I was not in the backpack rap, like like what we called it is right right right back in the day. Yeah, boom back way, I'm talking about two thousand and one Boom bath jucks and you know, I hear names like Jedi mind Tricks.

I didn't know. So once I got on on twenty ten, man, I studied Vinnie past I went back and listened to who he was and how amazing he was, you know, so when I met him in person, he showed me a lot of respect and was just a great guy. And yeah, shout out to Sea Lance. Sea Lance made that happen. Sea Lance producers for a lot of people. Man, uh mercur Les and and plus OG's in the game. But yeah, so that Venie Paz record was dope, man,

he was. It was cool. But I tell you what, though, The reason I say that about Jedi mind Tricks is because it just goes to show how you can totally disrespect something as a young kid who knows nothing, and later on learn who the fuck you're talking about and how dope somebody is. You know what I'm saying. So like, yeah, Vinnie Pasz, bless me. Man. Oh that's big man. Yeah, how's your current relationship with Wolf? I haven't talked to Wolf man. I think when was the last time he talked.

I think I talked to him, like, uh, I think the last time we talked was when I did the box Chevy video shoot that never came out, like uh twenty nineteen. Wow, so over two years about two years. Yeah, but but so yeah, he never ended up putting that My bad, he never ended up putting that video out. But uh, then I then I went to rehab and then you know, we might have VID and it just got COVID. Yeah, so it's just I haven't talked to him. Man. You know, I saw he did the project with Caskie.

I've been listening to his music. I saw he put out all these records, but four albums in a month. Yeah, well what was his main album's name? And not to be it like what was this? Uh? Either way, his last album that he that he put out was that motherfucker was this ship man he always has. He's great, man, he's you know. I was just I was like, We've been waiting for a Ritz Wolf or a Ritz Big Krid album all this time, and he puts an album

out with Riff Raff. Yeah yeah, like, hey, I will say this though, I will say this with that and and Riff rafts to the homies, you know good. Yeah, but can I say this? This is good? This is perfect time I'm getting a little and this has nothing to do with yellow woofrom refresh for nothing. I'm talking about period. I'm a little tired of the collab shit. It's like, fuck off everybody, everybody. It seems like everybody's like, yo,

collab project, and it seems almost fake now. So we could get bigger numbers, like we well, me and you are fan of each other. We should do a bootleg keV Ritz. I mean that would be real though, because we're fine. But you know, all these motherfuckers meet each other, it's like, hey, man, oh collab, clad collab, colac collap.

But I tell you a funny story. One night, I forgot that somebody asked me to do a collab and I was speaking to him like I was speaking to you know about my frustration with that, and I forgot he asked about it. I was like, oh, my bad man. Oh no, I'm not gonna say because it's my good friend, good friend, and I love a collabor with them, but yo, fuck off with your collab projects. Man, everyone, fuck off. Man, I'm gonna do something. I'm gonna do something because I

gotta conform to you guys. Who would you do something? But I'm sick of everybody. Ooh, it's your club, you funk off man, make some music, man, there it is? Who would I mean? I know you had spoken before about like maybe doing like uh doing some ship like that. I think we're like, yo, twist it would be crazy. There's a twister. Would be crazy. Devin the dude, Oh my god, oh man, the main people. You know what's fucked.

I was thinking with interviews there was like some R and B motherfuckers that like I would really love to go in with, but like I forgot, like you know what it was. You know what happened in Nikia. I don't know how real quick for I get. I am a Doobie fan. Dude's fire. I'm a Doobie fan. That's the homie. I'm gonna do it records here a lot. I'm a Doobe fan of his music. He's incredible. I like his music. I like it. I like DJ Highlight shout out to the whole cool, the whole crew. I

just I'm you know, I'm talking about music. No, Doobie's alien. I'm a fan. Yeah, he's cool and he does that that new ship, but he does it like great. He's a great he's a great, great writer, great artist. Man. He's dope, bro shout out to the doobie man. He's a wild boy. He's the one who introduced me to the term tongue punch her fart box. Oh that's crazy. Yeah,

that's that's a lot, that's a lot. Yeah. I guess maybe I've done that too many times for that phrase to really affect me to put tongue punch in the fire box. But I will say it's man, do be's dope? Do be dope? For sure? Yeah? Would you do like what would you if do was like, Yo, let's do a EP? Would you be down? Oh? Fuck yeah? Fuck you like somebody like. What I don't want to do is do EP like where we have to like measure our dicks and see raps faster. I don't want nothing

to do with that, you know what I'm saying. And I don't want to force anything with anybody else to It's like, you know, just because we're friends that we think it'll make some money, you know what I'm saying. We were talking about Jelly Roll earlier, Jelly row a Yo, let's talk about him, man, because Jelly's been on a run and I feel like he had played me a song in like twenty fourteen called Sunday Morning that was

Sunday Yes, but when Yeah, So it's crazy. Is he played me that record when I was living in Tampa and it wasn't out yet. Yeah, we were that's that run we went on and I was like, uh, bro, I know you rapping shit, but like, ye do that because that record is crazy. I'm happy to talk about Jelly Row because and that's exactly because we were in the same state, same situation. That's exactly when I remember, like, you know, he's got something, he's starting to find what

he's supposed to be. But then I was shopping at Kroger one day and I heard this son name arning on the fucking thing. I didn't know what somebody else's record. It's a sample, yeah, but he fucking murdered it so much AD made it sound like but he sounds so good singing. I was like, Bro, whatever it is you sound I'm saying that because like that was the beginning

of to me where I saw him go. Now, so now he's not only that was a sample of this Sunday Morning, but he's making these classic Man, he's a great save Me as like one of the most like one of my favorite songs in years. I mean, let's just say that, Jelly Row, I love you. Thank you for not calling your album hip hop this year because you would have knocked me out the spot. Yo man, dude, I'm so proud of you, Yo man for real, Like

his album, his writing, he's a great writer. Now he's the beast and crazy, probably the coolest person I've met in music. I'm so proud of best personality. Whenever they put that motherfucker in movies and TV shows and give him his own podcast, it's over, dude, I'm so proud of And his wife's got a dope podcast. Two shots to his wife, buddy. All I just know is man, he's a great dude, and he's been at it for

a long time. And the fact that you're doing this now, like shit, that's crazy because he was like a Nashville white boy rapper, like you still like associate him with Haystack back in the day. Lets me hope, man, you know that's what you want to be? Like that just means that you could be that and after so many years, think that this is where it's going to be. You're doing five hundred cat I mean, Wolf told me that, man, you will be doing five for the cat rooms for

you rest your life, motherfucker. So he told me. You know what I'm saying, making man, making the kind of music you make. But it just goes to show man. No, there's time, bro, you just got to tap in. Jelly Roll tapped in and he's been fucking killing. It's so proud of you, you know what I mean, It's a beautiful thing to say. It's fucking crazy, man, It's dope. It's dope. I do get annoyed with people tell me I'm in that country rap lank, but you're not. You

don't do that at all. And Jelly Man, I've signed so many t shirts with your face on it. Here with his tours, you know, Jelly Rod was supposed to be on the tour. Oh, but he had another obligation and then two years or a year and a half them by because COVID now he originally was supposed to be on the toe. I'm just straight signing Tech and Jelly Roll shirts on this tour and people come up to me like, dude, I came here to see Jelly but you man, dude, you'll fucking do, bud, I mean

this will work out. Oh yeah, yo, what what is like you've done the gathering at the jugglers right? Oh my god, yes, shout out to the whoo whoo? What was that like, boy met? What was that? Likes fucking insane? First time I ever went there? Right, I told the story before, so I'll tell some like other. So, first time we pulled in, there was this like big ass girl, naked as fuck, just sitting on a dude's face, riding his face, like just pussy all on his fucking mustache.

Like how big. It's hard to measure girls like what two fifty nice? A little fucking a little fucking what's her name? Goddamn Tammy. Goddamn Tammy was going by the gathering of the jugglers and there's a fat white woman riding the face and some dudes just sitting there like

a kitten with a can of tuna and shit. So yeah, so yeah, so we saw that, and then there was like this drug bridge or like where oh no, there was a raw dog tent where you go in there and fuck the girl with no rubber and like, yeah, the raw dog tent. Now this is before they changed their whole ship. Mind you, I've never been this is yo. Shout out to all the Juggalos out there. Man, you gotts show me so much love. I'm just not gonna front and act like I knew what the fuck was

going on. Wait wait, wait wait the Raw Dog tent. So what is like there's one girl who's just in there getting fucked raw? That was a bit, That's what I heard. I never obviously stepped into the Raw Dog tent, so it's just a bit. She was just yeah, like you've got to fuck her with no rubber and you you know, you go in there and just dog her out. Every's coming in there. You know, it's the raw Dog tent. Go in there and raw Dog and there's a drug bridge. Yo.

Shit was crazy back there. I remember seeing the Ghetto Boys performed there. You know, it's my favorite group of all time. Like I told you, I met Mike Dean to night. Oh my god, so like ghetto boys do. I seen Ghetto boys performing there, But these fucking juggalo as white boys have no idea. They had some but yeah, not like man, I hated. I wanted to go up there, Man's ghetto boys, but they ain't give a fuck about

me either, you know what I'm saying. So I'm watching this ship, but yet that ship is Wow, dude, it's just crazy. Raw Dog Tent and the drug bridge is like a bridge that you could just go like, you know, yeah, get your heroin, get your math right. And but so this is how I'm sure everyone was on math. Well, this is how tricky that shit is. Because I could talk about it in like a million these motherfuckers disc

me so Juggalos, I love you. I don't know about Raw Dog Tent or all that I've heard and I've also seen, and y'all motherfuckers are crazy. I will say this though. At my parents' house, my mom and dad's house, they have on their cable they have the Juggalo channel on there. What's that Roku? There's a Juggalo channel, Yes, and they have the fucking Gathering And I got this and I was like, oh shit, I know them, yo. You get to see like them like dancing and ship

and twerking and ship. Yeah, on a Juggalo channel on fucking Roku. With all due respect, you gotta watch this tonight. Nah, I'm good man, dude, you might like it. I always say that ICP fans, with all due respect, are the ugliest motherfucking fans and all that see this, Why is motherfucker's gonna get me in trouble? No, I'm not. I'm just saying I've been to some ICP shows and them juggal Lettes, they're just not the ones. You know what

I'm saying. I mean, you know what's crazy is like I heard all these like brumors and it looked like my aunt's what's fucked up is when you's stupid? Is that? What's fucked up is when you go on stage like, man, you don't know they might they're supposed to throw like bottle rockets at you. They hit you as shit if they don't like you, blah blah. Like when you even when they're happy, even when they like your song, they're like woo, it sounds like they're booing and shit, and

like it's it's fucking it's a crazy experience. And now there's like forty five year old teachers in high school, yeah, with hatchet man tattoos that they got when they were eighteen. I mean, let's not get me wrong. I mean the nudity is cool. I mean there's a lot of oblong titties. And there's a lot of long titties. There's a lot lot of long pale, a lot of stretch marks for some fucking lime green on them. Shit, you know, congratulations.

You know, like you go to a fo you go to a four to twenty show and it smells like weed. I feel like if you went to the gathering at the Juggalos, it would smell like meth smoke. No really, meth being blown in the air. No, no, it really does it. It really does it. So it's like like faygo like nbo soda and and feet. No no, no, no, no no, I ain't gonna do them like that. No I will. Now I'm backstage. To be honest, I go on there and I just hope that I don't get

hit with none. Straight up. I'm like, just show them love and like yo. But I did tour with ICP. I tour with them twenty nineteen, and so that was I mean, you know what's crazy is I'd love to interview those guys because I feel like, while I think that their fans are interesting to me, uh aesthetically not the most pleasing, but I respect there. I feel like They're truly pioneers in this rap shit. And I mean

that would all due respect. They literally showed everyone the way, and I and like, and that's to say, like everyone like the merch game, the indie game. Like they were the first motherfuckers to really dive in and monetize their fan base in a way that no one else was doing. Man, so like it was so new to them ICPR legends. I never was into their ship. Like my cousin used to bump the Great Malinco all the time, and my other cousin used to work for the Cottonmouth King, so

I would always go to Couia. But like you know, they they they mastered monetizing their fan base, and so many people use their blueprints this day. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I mean, you know what, you know, what's fucked up. I'm getting to the point in my career where it's like, even if it's something that and this is hasn't nothing to do ICP. But it's just like even if something I'm not into, I respect it and trying to figure out how it works me too, me too, for sure,

for sure, for sure, you know why it worked? Who likes it? Why is going on? Some of this shit's weird. I can't figure. I'll be doing the same ship. If there's some shit I don't understand, I'll be like, let me at least understand it. Even what I don't understand, let's get this fucking out to wait. And I was kids, I don't understand influencer ship, Like who's the influencer the one on TikTok with Dan? Who makes you? I don't understand. It's not for us, man, But that's me. That's just

how I feel. I don't understand certain things, but I'll try to. I'll try to learn it. That ship ain't for us, brushes for the kids, you know, Like, well, maybe you're not jerking off the tiktoking enough at night. I'm not clearly. I mean maybe you know, yeah, maybe what's the weirdest thing you've jerked off to this month or this year? Man, dude, I don't know. Probably picture of your cousin. I mean, I couldn't find your aunt on Facebook, so I her name is Wendy Scruggs Christ.

Now I'm in trouble, and you know what, fuck this shit? Keep that ship, hey, yo, shout out to my guy rich so sos just came out. Now, you said, you kind of got like a whole, a whole nother project that's like kind of more of like the like the traditional rit sound that's kind of ready to go. You know what's great, keV that you asked me that, because the thing is this, these motherfuckers been asking me all kinds of questions online. Not these motherfuckers, but like people

that are hating or whatever. But it's like, yo, the art of the interview is very rare, right right. You know, you're giving one right now and ask me cool questions like that so people can actually hear it. But like, no one knows what the fuck my molm's about because there's no one to ask about it. You know what I'm saying. I put out eight hard records. SOS is about help man. Seems like some therapy shit, something you need to get off your chest. Man, it's just me

going fucking hard man these motherfuckers. Not these motherfuckers, but how I feel about the industry and the consumer and myself, society all the bullshit. Man, The music is just coming out, and so I wanted to put something really hard out there and also with the deep shit. And I got a ton of music coming, man, a bunch of shit. So West is just where I'm at my life. Man,

it's help. You know. What I'm saying is showing where I'm at and you know, going through a rough time with certain things going back on that, you know what I mean? You want to bump a coke because you look like you're yawning. It's I had to get my kids to school this monk. For people who don't know this being filmed at one am, do you want a little bump in the morning. You know, I've never dropped

the school. I've never done cocaine rits. Yeah, right, man, This motherfucker did so much cocaine with me one day. That's not true. They really think about that. Hey, can I tell a story? Can I tell a story? Yeah, but I've never done cocaine. So there's a random guy. We're not gonna mention his name. Okay, dude, he's in the room with me, right This motherfucker never done coke in his life. Okay. I'm not proud of this ship.

But I was gooped a bunch up on a key and I was like, no, man, you're good, You're good. He's standing right there in front of me, I go fucking line, just spread across, spread across his fucking mouth. He fucking swallowed it, got all geeked up. He was all mad. Tried to fight me that night. Someone you interviewed, who interview you know my friend? Oh, your friend does not do coke. He's totally against it. I just was like, no, here, dude,

just fucking with that shit went directly on. It's funny because a few of my friends that I brought around you uh have done cocaine with you, just because they thought it was like that's the move, doing like weed with snoop. Yeah, yeah, it is. Basically. I was like in Austin, Texas with my guy baby Joel, and he did a bump with you in the back of the bus while wearing a Macho Band T shirt, and he was like, fuck it, ratle If it's been years, Writs.

You know what he always tells, He Hey, remember when we were in Austin with Writs and I did that cocaine in the bus, ratleipa man. Yo, straight up though, to answer that like that is damn there worth more than a million dollars. Man, that's amazing, you know what I'm saying. That's crazy because that could just be me, just somebody in my neighborhood doing the boy How how

did it? How was it dope to finally get the White Jesus records on the DSPs with the with the uh you know you kind of put them out with the two separate releases. I was in rehab. I was in rehab doing that. So yet that was shout out to Freddie Burman, my manager. Man, who really really did that? Man, I was in rehab, yeah, because then that was like ya, a lot of those records like you gotta go on that path to listen to Yeah, yeah, yeah he put

that out man. You know, it was a it was a thing, and he really helped held me down while I was in there, and really that really kept that really kept me going. Man, I'll see people with them T shirts on man, like that ship was crazy because I was gone. I had nothing joining the record that really didn't make it was the intro, right yeah, because the fucking funeral sample right yeah, the funeral march is

fucking copywritten. M Yeah, that's a that's a great So of course everybody's like, hey, man, fuck you for not put White Jesus. I was getting mad. Well, you know what's funny that that video wasn't even on YouTube. I think it was on Venmo. No, not Venmo. What was that way? So Wolf Vimeo, Vimeo, yeah, vimeo. Video was on video. I remember watching that video. You know what it was was, And I don't want to disrespect the dude he shot it, man, but uh, I don't know

what the fuck happened to him. I ain't talked to him, but Wolf like half like directed it and man it ran for a while and then motherfucker took the video off the channel. Oh wow, and just was gone. Yeah, and that's why I'm scared of samples too. Like, dude, when I put out Angry Johnny, like it was my first time with a sample, they gave me. They were like, yo,

one more try your YouTube is gone. Yeah. So we were like on probation for like three months plus when I was hey, yo, and this is another thing is important to say on your outlet, whether it makes it or not. But hey, man, the fucking YouTube things. Crazy motherfuckers don't realize. From twenty twelve to twenty nineteen, I couldn't build a YouTube because it was strange contractually. Yeah, and that's contractually they had all your videos. Yeah, that's

He's not a bad thing. I understand, Like, yeah, I could have had a guy filming me day to day trying to act content, but I have money like that, right, you know what I'm saying. So now, you know, trying to build that YouTube up, people are like, people will look at you and be like, dude, your videos don't get the views like they used to. Yeah, motherfucker, because it's about subscribers. You know what I'm saying. You don't have to base that all your videos are on strange.

You have to build it. You have to build it, man. People don't be knowing the game, you know what I mean. Well, there it is, man. So I'm assuming we're going to get another body of work soon. We are. Dude, You're about to get a body of work after this fucking interview is over.