#101 - Grip

the show. People want to people that restyle. Yeah, man, like it was so it's so dope. And then just to see you kind of like just drop consistently throughout the pandemic, just dropping records and just staying like staying on your ship man, and like obviously it paid off. Like kind of take me to what led to him coming to the table, Like what what what caught his attention? Yeah, I'll give you the months, like the months leading up

to this ship. So like with draw sna nose in like October twenty nineteen teen, right, right, sh It's god damn. You know it was getting critical acclaim and you know, went on tour with Jed uh, Europe came back like December, like Christmas, right January. We setting up for this Brent tour. We're fin the tour the States with Brent right then COVID and then everything shut down and we're kind of just like that could have been a big tour too,

a big tour. I was supposed to make some good money, right, so like it's like, damn, all right, well what we're gonna do? So automatically just start I just lock in and I make Halo, you know what I'm saying. Make Halo. And I think like a week and I'm like, all shure, we're at least on band camp. But thease that way, you know, people can't go just tune in and throw some money out of it. So make Halo? Did that

ship turn around? Made Probacitia were kind of just wait, nobody knows at this point, nobody knows, like what's going on in the where's the world going open back up? Like everything's shutting down, everything's getting canceled. I made that one. I think shortly after I made that one, I think Paul might have reached out, you know, you know, just show interest, you know what I'm saying. So at first it was just talking with Paul, and then it turned

into well heard it. You know what I'm saying, He's interested. So from there, you know, we kind of just like, all right, well, let's figure something out. You know what I'm saying. So this is in the pandemic, this is like this is twenty nineteen, right, you know what I'm saying twenty twenty. Yeah, that's just how I fucked up. So this is tall blur buddy, It's all fucking blur

man blur. Right, So like this is twenty twenty. I just go back to and at the start January I started, I started recording I Died for This January, so you already started working on the album. So then after but then I took a pause. I recorded those other projects and put them out just to have some shit out. So then once we talked to you know and Paul, it was kind of like, all right, bet, like so now I gotta I'm inspire it again, so let me

finish this ship. So that way, if I fly out there and ship and play some ship for him, I got a body of work ready to go. Yeah, so started working continue working on our Die for This. By the time we got up there. Uh. It was just like all I had to do was ask him, like, Yo, this is the song I want you on. And you know, I'm saying, think about Royce on this ship, you know

what I'm saying. But I think that m said he heard he heard a Snubnose and two to two six caught him kind of rapping fast and switching cadences and ship Big Ruby at the beginning. He's like, yeah, he's like that ship. So with Snubnose it caught. I feel like Snubnose was so like slept On, especially like on the DSPs, Like I feel like once you started dropping music in the pandemic, like I was like, oh, ship, I see I see Grip making these fucking big playlists.

This is dope, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And the people was going back to snub you know what I'm saying. So it was cool. I think every like every drop I've ever had, it just kind of got bigger at the time, you know what I'm saying, Like naturally, just it's got to be dope. Though, Like to have like a concept project like Snubnose be the thing that

catches Eminem's attention. Hell yeah, man, I feel like because for a long time, man, I was, I was kind of upset with it because like I felt like it was it was a great body of work that kind of just like fell under the radar. No, it definitely did. Yeah, So then I was just like, you know, for a long time, I was kind of just like I was frustrated for people who don't understand. Like, you had a

project in twenty nineteen you put out called Snubnose. This is a project that kind of got me onto you real tough, but what like it was a whole entire concept to the album break break down what that was.

So Snubnose, of course is a is a revolver. So so pretty much, I just like compare like the mechanism, like the secular mechanism to like the hood, like just like our environment, so like and kind of like spoke from the perspective of a gun, spoke on different cycles, uh, and brought it back for a circle at the end. So pretty much, you know, in a nutshell, like that's

what it was. It was like the most creative ill way to do what like Nas and Tupac did, but like over an entire body of word, the entire body of work, and I just remember, like as a kid, like hearing like I gave you power, I gave you powers the best damn. I think it was one of those songs. I was like, the fuck yeah, powers, like one of those songs. You're like, nas Is goat man, what the fuck are we're doing here? I remember, like

I remember, like so uh. I think that it was just dope that that at least am caught that ship. You know what I'm saying, Like, at least this kind of catapulted me to this next level. You know what I'm saying. I mean that means that the project service purpose. Saying purpose and think about Ematic right, emadic at. I

mean it was was it was an underground favorite. I mean obviously came out on Columbia, but like really, once Notves really started a pop, I think a lot of people had to go back to that show, back to that ship. Barely just went double platinum like six months ago.

You know what I'm saying, We think it Illmatic is just like the holy grail, the holy grail of hip hop, and it's like, bro, it's barely double platinum, you know what I'm saying, Like I guess it reasonable doubt the same thing right without reasonable out How many people like no idea about reasonable doubt until Jay started really really getting these commercial records. And so I think that's kind

of like your moment. So the album, like, obviously, when you have a body work that's done, you presented the shady records, right, you picked the song you want eminem on or does he pick it? Well? I did that, I did. I don't know how to go usually, but like I was like, because when I played it, well, I played it before I told him, so then when I played it, he was like, damn, this hook, this hook is dope as fuck. I was like, well, Greg, the one that's the one I wanted. That's the one

I wanted you on. Yeah. Man, So like nah, I kind of we are we kind of catered you know what I'm saying. We kind of catered that ship like to like, all right, man, let's if we was gonna get him on a song, what would you know what I'm saying, what I wanted to be what I don't

want this shit to sound like. So like that's kind of like why I kind of feel like it was easy for him to just like walk straight into it, and it's got to be hard to cause, like especially brought up Royce and you know I always say Royce, and I mean Royce is a fucking Jedi. He's a Maniam, one of the greatest of all time. But you would think you wouldn't. Like, you get your m verse back,

you get your voice verse back. You already got your ship done, right, so you gotta like it's almost like you gotta had already recorded that hoping that they was gonna get on it, and you went super stupid hard or did you like recut any of your ship? I don't recut, man, I don't recut man. I respect, you know, I respect you know. Sometimes you'll send the record out with the hook and then the open verse, see what, see what's okay? This was? I know what I need

to do. It's a cold for me. So like if I most of the time, if an artist is bigger than you, they're gonna want they gonna want to hear your ship on that first right because they don't want to look crazy cannibish it happened. And yeah, so you know, out of respect and just like you know, like I said,

it's a cold man like all right, cool. I'm gonna send it with my shit on that I'm gonna try to go as hard as possible, but some motherfucker's gonna flip some shit to go crazy, you know what I'm saying, Like, and it's just like, hey, it is what it is,

so like with them, like with Royce. With Royce, I had already had the song constructed, like the first half in the second half, so he just took the whole middle you know what I'm saying, the whole middle portion and killed the shit like, which is what I was

expecting him to do anyways. But then with like m shit I spent at sixteen, I was just trying to write some the most motherfucking internal just that lyrical school, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm going in you know what I'm saying about the same time, trying to like do my own thing. So when I said it to him, you know, and he sent back, and I was like, I was already knowing that he was coming with at least thirty six bars, you know what I'm saying,

Like I already knew. I was like, all r I bet like he went in, he just went the funk off and it was like, ya, I don't change shit, you know what I'm saying. I never I don't change nothing like any time. It's crazy too because like I just feel like am You know what I appreciate about what Eminem does on Shady is it's not about cloud politics. It's like who's dope? Yeah, like who like look at it,

Boogie is dope. The Griselda guys fire. Like people forget when Eminem brought Griselda to Shady, Like Griselda was buzzing and like amongst the hip hop has like boomback kids, but it was nothing like it is now. Like he's super early on you. You know what I'm saying. And I think it's dope because like a lot of times we'll see a lot of these executives are artists turns executives, and it's really about like it's really not it's not as much about the talent and the capabilities as a

rapper as it is about like the dollar signs. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Man, I think that's one of the things when talking to him. Of course, I know it's a business, you know what I'm saying. Of course, Like when I talk to him and shit, it's like you still felt like he was he's an artist and like he kind of just like you know what I'm saying. It's like it's like it's like a coach who used to play basketball. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like

it's a difference. It's a difference a coach who played in the NBA. Yet different respect them with the players. That's why you always hear like, yeah, man, this guy feel me. Ex player always gets the locker room easier, you feel me, Like, so like I felt that. I mean I felt that like before we even any paperwork anything, you know what I mean. And he was just like, yo, like I don't want to change nothing like I you know what I mean, Like pretty much, that's just great.

You created control. So I was just like, so you have created control in your situation. Oh that's fire, that's big, that's huge. That's a very also very uncommon. Yeah for real. So obviously Eminem is one of the greatest rappers of all time. I mean obviously respect him as an MC.

As far as like coming up, like, were you listening to a lot of like you know, I'm not saying you were listening to a revival by the way whatever, if you were love But were you like like, were you like tapped in as like a pretty big Eminem fan coming up? Yeah, yeah I was. I could probably spit Verba, Slim Shady LP all the way to the Eminem show. Those are my three yeah yeah, and then

eight Mile soundtrack. Yeah, eight Miles soundtrack. I wish you would have made a whole album when he Bro if Eminem would have did a whole album when he was in eight mile fucking mode. Them three records on eight mile fucking crazy, Yeah, Bro going hard. There's some ship on the encore too, remember the Yeah, the mid types and DJ types and show he had a verse. There was a song called We All Die One Day on Obie Trice's album. It was Obie Lloyd Banks fifty and Eminem.

It's my favorite Eminem verse ever. I feel like no one talks about that version, but that era of like early g unit Hell yeah, Man, eight mile and when m was jumping on all the who Kid tapes, the Green Lantern Ship talking about job Rule talking. I mean it was just like, you know, it's one of the best eras ever man. Bro. So yeah, no, I was, I was, Yeah, I was big on them, like before, what's your favorite album from him? Like favorite, I'm not

saying best because I think they're different. Ship probably the maybe the show that's my favorite. I think, like probably the best. You could probably say Martial Matters, but to me and a show is the one, Yeah, because I think like Marshall Mathers LP, like I wanted And I

remember the first time I lived Bro. I vividly remember like my big sister had just maybe she had just got our license or some ship and we're just driving up the street to mom, can we go to the to the gas station or whatever, and flying off with c the end. You know what I'm saying, Like literally just wanted some wild ship. I'm gonna kill you, see what I'm saying. Like, So it was hard, Bro, like Mom turned that ship off, You're gonna take my cut?

And I could I could hear like how his style had changed and ship like him adjusting to you know, to the industry and ship. So it was dope, man, But I probably say the eminem Show shows my ship. So what's been dope about just watching Atlanta over the last like five or six years. It's just like Atlanta,

I obviously well for the last twenty to twenty. It's been twenty strong years where Atlanta's ran rap music, right, but like just in terms of like you know, obviously there's the Migos, twenty one, Savage Chains, like all these

guys who've been like superstars shaping the culture. But to see guys like Ji d, to see Black, to see yourself like all like like Atlanta always to me was like you know, growing up, Outcast was my favorite shit, like Equiminized, my second favorite album, Ember, and like it's just dope that like there's still that like like lineage of like you know that that energy still coming out of that A And what's dope about it too is now it's like you know, I'm sure when you were

growing up and I when we were probably coming up around the same era, it felt like hip hop was a lot more segregated. Yeah, it'd be like this is the real rap shit, this the commercial shit, this the boom bab shit. But now I feel like everyone just fucks with each other. Like it's like, you know, you remember how crazy it was when telip Quality did a song with jay Z. Yeah, or it wasn't even that it was it was it wasn't even that. It was

it wasn't even that. Actually, I take that back. It was just the fact that Jay shouted out tlip quality on a song. They didn't even do a record together. It was what he said lyrically, I'd be telling quality everything like oh my god, he shout like common sense, right, like common sense. But it's crazy to think like we came from an era when like the rocket ship, the common ship, the black Star ship was like another world from Nas and jay Z because they were commercially successful artists.

But I feel like nowadays, like everything blends in together. Yeah somewhat for the most part. Yeah, like you would see like you know, Griselda doing records with two chains, you know what I'm saying. And I think that come out of like just like that, see like for instance like outcasts and and uh and motherfucking who who would jump on that a frequent a frequent collaborator too, like like they had some wu tang on that ship, Yeah

what I'm saying. So, like you know, like I think it's like so like it was to the bar b respect thing like like oh no, I see y'all doing y'all things with it, like and if time allows like ship let's let's think about like even like big Boy, right, he just he put out He's I mean I just think like as a kid, like to think that like a trapped out rapper like Jez would do a song with outcasts. It just wouldn't make sense to me as

a fan. But but now yeah, but it's like I'm just glad that, like because I used to be one of them little hip hop snopper. I mean that ain't real rap ship man? The fuck is this ship man? But it's like all this ship is fun, It's all it's it's how do you feel about like kind of the current state of Atlanta and just like where it is as far as like artists integrity, Like I feel like Atlanta still runs this whole ship bro, Like yeah,

I think that, Uh. I think it's in a place. Man, I think that has a decent balance, you know what I'm saying. I feel like, uh, the trap the trap ship, or at least the trap sound, you know what I'm saying. Because it started off as trap because he was talking about trap, right, ship Now it's just a sound now, right, So like uh, I feel like, hm, even if it's if it may not have been. It's like as hard as it was like ten years ago, but it's still

like the hardest ship is. It dominates the airwaves, you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's more friendly on the ear now, you know what I'm saying, Like kids can fuck with it, and and everybody twenty one Savage rappers, ass Offgos feel literally probably the most influential rappers in

the last decades. So I saw I fucked with it, bro, and then and then on the just like the lyrical side of things, you know, just like I feel like we all gotta like we kind of fuck with the like for the most part, everybody fucked with each other, right right, you know what I'm saying in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying from on the lyrical shit. So like like I said, like like jid, like that's the homie and shit. So like you know, we talk out there.

You know. Kenny Mason, Kenny Mason was just here. He freestyle. He's a fucking beast. He's almy and shit, man, So like, you know, I think it's in a good spot. Bro, Hey what up? Man? We gotta interrupt the interview real quick to tell you about our family at odds Socks. Now when I be riding for odd sock so hard, man, it's because I really love the product. They got the most comfortable socks in the fucking world. I got a pair of odd Socks Basic song right now, go get those.

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what's your in your opinion? Uh? What like if you if somebody was coming to Atlanta and they'd never been to a strip club, what would be the one place you'd be, like, you gotta go here? I was like the Magic City. I went to Magic City. I was disappointed. Wings. They weren't good. They were all right? Were you there? Cook? I was very disappointed. They were tiny ass wings. Bro. You know that Magic City wings? You want to jumbo wings? Bro? You know that Magic City wings? As small as hell?

You want to jumbo? Are they not? Small ass wings? On one night? Man a wing? This, a wing this side. I heard the Blue Flame is better food wise? Maybe I don't know. Guess what Killer Mike told me. No, no, I ain't going. I ain't going. I ain't gonna. But you say, yeah, he's of the flying Alright, let's see if we talking about food ship Cheetah is a five star restaurant, and that's like they play like nickel back

in there. I don't know what they play. Yeah, yo, Jared Benon tried to take me to the Claremont Lounge. That's like a real scums, a little freak show. He said. There was midgets and elderly women showing there. Bro, one arm, one one leg, ladies and ship's you've been in there yeah that couple times. Yeah, he was like, Yo, I'm gonna take you to this place. Bro, it's crazy fucking old women in one arm. Yeah, man, midget all kinds

of ship is one of them. Player. I could imagine like that ship being in like Tijuana or some ship. You know what I'm saying, Like just a just a random knight. Just drive down there and just like you ever been to teacher No man were playing on going sooner. Man, I got a homie in San Diego. Go to San Diego. Check out t J. They got great Mexican food man, great Mexican food man. Yeah, they got to talk every corner that the best tacos. We probably gonna hit that ship. Yeah.

So the album is out. What is like because I think, like, you know, obviously with I don't know how your deal structure. But what was kind of cool about what happened with Grizelda was like they were signed a Shady but they also were just dropping independent shiite. It was like, Yo, what the fuck is going on? Is this on Shady? Is it's not on Shady? Like Conway still hasn't dropped his Shady Records album and I heard it like a year ago, but like, what's like your situation? Are you

gonna just flood the fucking marketplace? So like that ship was released, Uh, it was distributed to Shady. I died for this. Uh so that straight society through Shady distribution. But yeah, man, so I mean technically we haven't even had a debut, so technically they just distributed the project. Yeah technically, Yeah, so they haven't had a debut Shady album yet, but we'll be one for sure. Are you

already working on it? Yeah? Okay, okay? Is that gonna be something where you like let him come in and maybe do some executive producing or you kind of got you got the creative control. If the executive produces it, you're gonna have Skyler Gray singing on every fucking hook. You're gonna have Pink and Skylar Grace singing on everything. Bring Yeah, yeah, shout out to him a legend. But nah, as far as like you're you're you know what you're a fan of right now? Artists who inspire you right now?

Who's out there that you're like really? Just like, man, I'm just a fan politics aside. I just fun with your ship. Let's see uh tr Ot for sure. You know what I'm saying, Uh fuck with school Boy heavy Kendrick of course, Uh Kendrick verse on that family ties crazy? Yeah, yeah, better than Drake's whole album, that verse he says, I said it not you, he smoked on your top five? Uh ship? Who else we got? Of course? Like Cole

with Cole uh jigs. You know what I'm saying, Anderson pat Ship Man Tyler is fucking really killing it right now. His album is so crazy. Yeah, bro, he put a whole rapping ass gangster grills out in this album of the year. He's in a He's in a in a different bad right now. Oh man, of course three stacks. I'm still waiting to god, Damn did you hear or some ship? Did you hear the Kanye song? Oh man? God, Like,

how did this not make the album? I mean that second verse that Kanye came, I was like, what's he doing? Like he kind of just ruined, like what was going on the song. It's like, Bro, did you not just hear Andre cours fucking hard out? Like, yo, you come here talking to other ship. I mean maybe that's why it just didn't come out. Yeah, yeah, I get it, but yeah no, of course, like I'm waiting. I'm waiting bro for the day that and I'm sending three stacks

a fucking song. Bro, bro it You know what it feels like with andre basically, like when I saw him put out that statement about that song where he was like, I love to work with Kendrake. I'm like, I feel like he would do a lot more versus if people would just ask people reached out to I don't think people reach out to him because I just feel like

people think he's unobtainable. People to find his ass, you know what I'm saying, just in random places, fucking you know what I'm saying, eating that food and playing the flute and crazy. Some people might say they saw him in a concert or some ship. It's Andre, like your like number one all time three stacks. Yeah, I think Andreas He's in my top five. Man. Yeah, I feel like Outcast is undisputably the greatest hip hop group of all time. Yeah, yeah, it's close with the I think that.

I think for me it's it's it's outcast and then I like Wu Tang Tribe as my three I was kind of my personal I might say t yeah, yeah, outcast Wu Tang Tribe. And then from there it's really whatever you're into. Gangstar Mob, I mean Gang Star Primo wasn't rapping, yeah mob deep Yeah, I mean n w A. But me with like n w A, I just like that ship was before No Limits Soldiers, that was really ship.

It was ship slip. Yeah, I got that. Yeah. Yeah, Murders remember Magic You remember uh every time you get a no Limited album, it'd be all these fucking albums that like every like you'd be like, Yo, when the fuck is this little Soldier's album ever? Yeah? Mercedes rear End, Bro. You know how many times I touched myself as a kid to that album cover. That was the closest thing to pussy I had. I've been like, yo, let me let me see Mercedes fucking cross on this fucking album cover.

It was like never I never heard none of the music. Never. How many there were so many no limited artists like that? Son A Harmony, a bunch of mac Yeah, brouh Fiend was dope, though there's one in every family was fire. And then also how many different versions of the five or four Boys album was promoted. Every no Limited album you'd buy, it'd be like five or four Boys coming soon, and they'd be like one version would have like c Murders,

Mister cool Pe and Silk in it. And then the next album you buy, it'd be like five or four Boys coming soon with Snoop Dogg in the fiber four four Boys album. Can wait for this ship for two years? Yeah. I used to have a No Limit chain as a kid. I think we had to tang on them, the little silver guy from the mall, from the Beautiful Story, and then they put their fucking clothes out and I couldn't afford I was trying to get one of them No Limit ninety nine jerseys and mister Rags, but them sh

was like one hundred dollars and I could never afford these. Yeah, I see, man, we got them. Yeah, we just never had the masterpiece market. Do you ever get the masterpiece sneakers? I think that by that point, I think I was kind of just like, yeah, you know, what was crazy? Hey, the No Limit ship was so popping, and then it just wasn't really fast go bro, but like so fast.

It was like the hottest ship in the world. And then it was just over yeah man, And it was I feel like the last master P album where I was like, oh, this ship ain't it It is the only guy can judge me ship with the cross the diamond out cross on the front. I remember I listened to that ship. I was like, it's over with and then he put out the album where he had he was in his hornets jersey on the basketball court on

the cover. Yeah, man, ghetto. I think MP The Last Down was probably the last No Limited album I really fucked with. I kind of like it was the one that had like the three D cover with the top hat and the rings and ship had make him say Part two on it. Yeah. See he had movies and lot like I got the hook up with fire. I got the hookup was so slept on bro. Yeah. I think like P is like obviously, you know, shouts to pe Man. That's one guy han't interview if I ever

interviewed him. B f P. The pac Man's calling me in the middle of an interview. See what he says. I'm in the middle of an interview right now, Bro, Bro, don't treat me like I'm regular. I got you, I got you. Hey, hold on, Hey, this is my producer. He ain't send me the pholder. Hey, hey, cook, what then are we doing now? Like my guy got you and get you a photo? Right now? Let me finish it. I'm in I'm in the middle of an interview the homie Grip was having. Bro was hading. How you doing.

I'm good, brother, how you Oh no, you're good? For you good? All right? Man? Okay, that's not your ass, man, I need I need an interview to you. You fun would be a be the pac Man. I never have you heard of him? Na, Oh my god, he's like the bro. He's like the funniest rapper a lot. Matter fact. Matter of fact, you by the ship. You buy this ship from me. He's fucking hilarious. He's from Flint, Michigan. Right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we watched this ship. Yeah, we

watched it. He was cold, Bro, he was cold. Funny, he was cold. That's dope. Yeah, he's like the funniest rapper. He'd be just saying normal ship that we all be thinking, but he'd just be saying it. He's saying that ship Yeah he cold, he called I watched the ship ship all night with this nigga. He was just going down our little rabbit hole. Yeah yeah, yeah, the pac Man rabbit holes gets deep. Man, it's hard. What was the we were just talking about master P shouts master anyway,

respect to Master P, respect to No Himan Records. It did end fast. What's your favorite No Limit album? Ship? I don't know, shoots to the game, I don't know. I fuck with that ghetto dope, ghetto dough. It'll be hardest fun, you know, make crack like this man, and I missed my homies was crazy. Yeah, yeah, you're right,

So yeah, man, I don't know, bro. Ghetto is like, yeah, ghetto d is there though, Bron, Like of course you got like the motherfucking ug ks and of course you know, obviously how about this outside of cast, even outside of the Dungeon family, right, because Goodie Mob is incredible, but like, who is some Southern influences coming up as an MC that really you know, kind of helped shape your your style. That was like, oh, Ship, there's other motherfuckers out here.

That really got bars obviously a tip man face scarface ship. Actually, uh, fucking Sean J from phil Mob is a motherfucking monster. He had a He had a bar on one of his songs where he said, uh, so poor I forge's something about the soap being so small. Yeah, the soap sides of the size of a certain Yes. Yeah, bro, like, hey, no he got bars man. Hey, y'all, fi, I was crazy from the tutor Man from Maruta to the Tour Sean J got bars dog film. I was crazy. Yeah,

now they're slept on. I wonder. Yeah, that's that's crazy. I forgot about field Mown and they had some hits too that Sarah, Yeah, so what what At one point, you know, we was on Luda this ship. You know, Lula was hard. Hey that t I freestyle. That did it for me. He had a jack and for beachs freestyle he named he said it before that was yes And when he said, uh what did he say? Uh, I'm like, uh like Martin Luther King with the g

A T ship heave me, Oh my god. But see he had an older one man when he was like just going by tip that he had a jack and for beats that was hard, bro Like he had like he was doing biggie beats and some motion on that ship. Bro Like. But yeah, no tips definitely a coming out

of Atlanta, bro Like, that ship was huge. Would you ever want to do, obviously with Tyler kind of bringing back the game your girls thing, would you ever want to do a gangster girls because I feel like that's like a you know, obviously growing up that was a big deal. Man, Yeah, of course, but now I feel like we in a day and age that now people just gonna be like, oh, you copy you copying off. It's like, you know what I'm saying, Tyler just was just kind of paying hommage to ignore that to Erar

and ship. So but you know how people do nowaday, So I would probably just do it with it. Was there any uh, any sort of competition as far as whether or not you signed with Shady? Were there other people you were considering signing with mm kind of? But this ship just made them? This ship made the most sense, you know what I'm saying, Like it was you know a few people, man, I ain't ta ain't taught to some people saying stand and ship. You don't know if they feel the way or what. But oh you think

like maybe because you passed. The people are weirdose man a little bit. It's called business business move man. End of the day, Like this will be with my friends. It's like, man, with you music industry people are just emotional motherfuckers. Man. Man. But' see sometimes man, I ain't gonna lie bro like deals failed throwing ship not kind of like yeah, ship gave me like a chip on my shoulder and ship, so like you had you had

deals fall through. Yeah, so like even the like the an rs or whoever that was bringing the deals to the table and ship, like I slicked just like didn't talk to them for a while and ship. And it's not like I was mad at them because I know, like it ain't Joe fault you saying and ship to you know what I'm saying to the bosses and ship. But you know, so I gotta get over that type of ship. You know what I'm saying. I would chip

on my shoulder and ship, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, it's hey, man, the most emotional friends I have are are artists because it's it's like you almost have to be an emotional person to give a fuck that much to get so good at something and it's art, right, So you're it's it's like you watched the Last Dance, of course, fucking mad at anything anything, And when you're talking about art like this is like literally like your blood sweating tears right right, you really you know what

I'm saying. It's not like you're you're you're like a contractor and you put in flooring or something like. Now, this is my art, bro, this is like my expression, this is my everything life. You're putting out here, man, you know what I'm saying and putting out here for the world to hear. Well, Look, the album is out and you're working. It's not even your Shady Records debut, Yeah, just distributed. You got the distrust the debut release, say,

debut album. What is it like? You know, obviously, Paul's a guy who is a legendary executive. You know, was running death Cham for a few years, has managed a bunch of big art I mean, eminem but also you know, mismanaging action boonton for a little bit. What's Paul like? You know, I feel like we don't really know a lot about Paul as far as like most executives are a little bit more out there than he is as far as doing interviews and ship, Like, how is he? Yeah, man, Paul,

Paul is cool man, I am. I heard so many different things before, you know what I'm saying getting into the situation about Paul, you know, so like just from everywhere, so like you know, I kind of just like washed that out and went and ready to just like assess it myself, get your own opinion. Yeah, so far, so good man, cool man. You know what I'm saying. We him and tied talks all the time and ship, you

know what I'm saying, shooting text messages and ship. So you know, Paul's cool man, like from from what I you know, I man and meeting them and ship. How big did you go to Eminem's house when you went to Detroit? We went to the studio. Oh he's got his own studio, right, I'm sure he hasn't He has his own studio. But so you went to Detroit though, Yeah, I went to Detroit. Is that like you gotta go to Like I feel like Eminem's not going nowhere? You

got to go to Detroit. Yeah, You're gonna come to Detroit whenever I see like Eminem somewhere else besides Michigan. I'm like, what's going on, man? He was in La for what it must be working on the Detos or something. All right, all right, you're gonna pull up to Detroit, you know, if he's working on any new music himself, because his music to be murdered by the best shit he's put out in like hard oh incredible too. I'm

not gonna lie this. I said this, you know, because I've been very critical of m and his music over the last eight or nine years. Music to me, murdered By at the end of the year was like my second most listening. It made me feel like vintage Eminem. I felt like he handled some production. It sounds because you you know, back in the day and with you know, it's crazy because I don't think Eminem ever got enough love as a producer because he had a he had

a literal sound. He's nasty and but em had a sound where you'd be like, oh no, those are Eminem drums. This sounds like an Eminem b like when he did the Cross for Nows or whatever, like you know, that's an MB and I feel like he kind of got back to like that. Yeah, because man, I ain't man shot men. Listen, bro Skylar Gray Man, Skylar fucking gray Man man list when I saw music be murdered, but I looked at the track list and I got so mad because I saw her name on there again. But

she was cool on this one. God damn. Everyone was like it is crazy because, like I gotta tell my man, my mass is a fan. You know what I'm saying, Like you, this broad was on fucking Bad meets Evil. Why is she on Bad Meats Evil? I want to hear Skylar Gray singing a ballad hook on bat meets Evil. Shout out to her. She owes a lot to em you know what I'm saying. Yeah, hey man, listen. Well look, we're gonna do a freestyle separate YouTube video. The album

is out. I know Eminem and Paul's gonna watch this. At least Paul will I love Eminem next album. Leave Skylar Gray off that motherfucker from me, please Jesus Christ. All right, there we go,