#100 - Wack100

everyone who always reaches out about all the episodes. Man. Really, just I'm gonna try to do more with the podcast too, because I feel like we started the podcast we're doing like more like cool podcasting shit, like having like hip hop discussions that were like audio only that weren't necessarily interview driven. So gonna try to bring back some of that stuff because lately we've just been doing just going hard on interviews, and we're still gonna go hard on interviews.

I'm gonna go hard on our pants. So those two things are definitively gonna happen, but also just other things, like we're gonna start going live on the YouTube more I just want to say thank you. If you've ever listened or watched any of the show, thank you for real fucking fuck with y'all. I appreciate it. Even if you're like a Doe who hates and talk shit about all in the comments whatever, it's all the same, you're

still watching. Appreciate it. So for episode one hundred, we were gonna do Freddy Gibbs, but Freddy Gibbs was out of the state of California for a week, so you know, Freddi Gibbs was episode one. We kicked it off with fred and it obviously would have been dope to have him on episode one hundred, but he'll be on like an episode real soon. I mean I talk to him

every day. It is what it is. Instead, for episode one hundred, we were like, let's do Whack one hundred, one of the more crazy polarizing figures in rap that we have right now, someone who I consider to be a real friend, someone who, whether you like him or not, is obviously you watch him. One of our most successful interviews and episodes with Whack one hundred. And you know, Whack is a guy who I always say like, Whack

will give you game, even when he's not trying. So we brought Whack one hundred back on the podcast for the hundredth episode Whack one hundred. Let me tell you what actually happened. We recorded an hour and a half with Whack, he leaves, and then all of a sudden online it's pretty much being talked like Whack is managing six ' nine. And now this is like after we have a long discussion about his talks with six ' nine. So I'm like, yo, Whack, you got to come back

up here and be a little bit more specific. When you're talking about setting up forty three million dollar deals for six ' nine, are you managing him or not? So he came back up to kind of give us some more clarification on his situation with six ' nine. So there's a The front end of this interview was just recorded. The back end of the interview was recorded last week, and uh, just the press play enjoy it. Craziness about the Ray J sex tape piece holding on

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one hundredth episode. So we recorded like an hour and a half with you, and then you left, and then like ten minutes after you left, there was this headline about you leaving a comment about how much money you've lined up for six ' nine, And then there's some audio that's out there now and we had just had this. We just had this long conversation that was a little I guess that wasn't out there yet, so I was like, yo, whack, you gotta come back in. So this is the beginning

of the interview. You're gonna keep watching this. There's there's a lot of gems throughout the rest of the interview, but there is some six nine stuff that might be a little dated. So whack, let me just start this. Are you managing six ' nine? I'm definitely not, I think at this time in six nine career, and from what he's been through, the word manager is not appealing

to him. Right. It'll take for anybody that wants to beat at the six nine you're gonna have to be in a box with him and do a bunch of business for him to establish some type of trust. But I don't think six ' nine is manageable to a point where he's gonna let somebody control the narrative. Would you? What he will or has allowed is for me to utilize his name and the buildings that I have some say so in and relationships in to do some business.

If it's and it's there. If he came to you and said, whack, I would want you to be my manager, would you consider it? At this point in time, I couldn't be one hundred percent management of sixty nine. Could you be like a co manager with the Murder Murphy with the Murder Murphy guy whoever? Definitely I wouldn't do

that either. What I would do is I have a lot of management teams out there, a lot of people that I'm friends with that I'm real cool with, that I know that understand this business like I understand it. I would probably negotiate something with them and put them in place. But at this time where he's at right, a full time manager is not what he needs. He just needs somebody that has the resources in the reach

to get things done, y'all. To remember, before he left, he would run around with a bunch of street dudes claiming to be a manager, right right. I used to be the street dude that didn't understand the industry. So I understand the difference between the street dude claiming the title versus really living that title, you know what I mean. So I think what a lot of people see, like watch this, who's little nas X manager? I have no idea,

you know why? Because their management team operates from a building, the cell phone to attorneys, and they send their little assistant guy out to make sure shit's done right. What you guys are used to whack doing is I'm hands on with my artists. And we know, right, we know like whack manager's blue face, we know whack managers games, j etcetera. Yeah, I'm hands on with our artists. So when people see them, they see me. It's a it's a direct thing. Right With a guy like six ' nine, right,

something like that probably will be set up. Would he asks me one day, a whack could you set me up? Or do you know these dudes? He probably would because in a short period of time, all I've done was you got a product right? Six Now, let's take away all the bullshit. He's a product right when you're talking

about business, right, entertainment? If you have a product. If I got this phone right, and this is the six ' nine phone, right, and I know that I have distribution reach in twelve countries because of my prior relationships, I can box this phone up, mail it out to each country my liaison and say hey, can you guys do something with this phone. They're gonna say, well, whack, we heard a few things about this phone. But are we dealing with you directly? And I'm going to say, yeah,

you're dealing with me directly. You won't have to deal with the guy on the phone, right And they say, okay, wa, based upon me our relationship, yeah, we could distribute five million phones a year for you, right, Okay, my attorney will be in touch with you at that point in time. Is just be a contract, a letter, direction and the signature, so you know essentially what you're doing is contracting your

services to six ' nine. Know what I'm doing is like making sure you have listen, he has a he has a value to himself, right, right, And I have resources for the things that's valuable about this young kid. Right. So simply what I'm doing is I'm just bringing them together, bringing them together, and you're getting your cut. That's it obviously, Oh definitely, yeah, that's business is business. So and it's not an extra cut on top of a cut, because he is who he is, you know what I mean.

Some people will say, well, fuck that, you're putting your name on the line. You should get fifty what you get what you would normally get, right, And you know some people might want to play it like that, right, But in my world, it's like, you know, greed, you know you greed, don't get you nowhere? You know what I mean, Do what you do, take it, keep it moving. Maybe y'all do some more business later. Maybe you won't.

But if you gouge a person, it's a good chance you won't, especially if you know that they're in a situation where they might have to do it. You know what I'm saying. A person knows that, then they know that he could have gouged me, but he didn't. You know what I mean. I've gotten all kind of phone calls, movies, NFT touring, I mean, fucking you name it, crazy shit, God damn, I ain't gonna name it. Endorsement where people

contact my attorney. My attorneys, Yeah, my attorney. Where they contact my attorney because they're like, well, wha we can can we talk to you? We've been wanting to do this business, right, so can we send this to you and can you let us know if this could happen. Hey, listen, bro, I understand why guys in the streets are saying what they're saying about you working with them. The reason why I understand them because I used to be that guy

when I was like fifteen years old. Right. I don't expect that guy to understand what I'm doing because that guy hasn't elevated. He don't even understand business. He probably still hustling in the streets whatever he's doing, right, So I understand his mindset because I used to have that mindset right when I was adolescent. Right. Corporate America in the streets two total different worlds. I mean, that's what

you're saying. You'll see later on in the interview where you were talking about the people up on that fiftieth floors. Not a lot of people get on that floor, you know what I mean? Hand picked me and said you're gonna be the one to go in and represent us and none of that. You know what it does sound like though, you're kind of like doing a lot of stuff that a manager would do for him. Well, I don't know, because I can't tell you what six nine life can consist of. Day to day. You asked me

about game ray Jo Blue Face. I can tell you pretty much day to day, week by week, of course, month by month on what we gotta do. I can't tell you what he's doing. I can't tell you where he is right now, what he has to do tomorrow. The only thing I can elaborate on if somebody tells me, hey man, we want to do a tour from January fifteenth to the fucking March, and I could say, well, from January fifteen, he'll be on tour in Europe, right, if that was the case, right, I know that because

it's been contracted. So I don't, you know. I don't know what his day to day, what he's doing, what other situation he's doing, all his deals and all his paperwork. I don't know who's overseeing those things. Some would say, like, at least from my perspective, I think like, if he's ever going to be relevant again musically, he almost needs a Whack one hundred. No, because I'm not saying I don't mean don't. I don't make his music. I wouldn't

know how to make his music. But I just think it makes the six ' nine pill a little easier to swallow. If Whack one hundred is that's what y'all keep getting it wrong at the whack one hundred crowd, right, is no different than the blue Face crowd. They don't give a fuck what I think now. The game crowd is my crowd, right. It's people from my generation and

a little under me that that's his fan base. The six nine crowd wouldn't give a fuck if it was Whacked one hundred, the daff he duck or nobody at all. They're into his music. I couldn't even tell you the chemistry of this young man's music. I don't know what producers he worked with. You haven't been helping him at all with music. Feature has never been in the studio with him. I've never done anything like that. I don't feelly need a feature personally. But you've heard the new music,

oh definitely. And we heard about four songs. What's your opinion on it? Oh, he got some hits, their hits. I've called in people that hate his guts Radio hate sixty nine guts, and they said, I hate the fact that I like this music and I hate this individual. Right. The product is the product. It ain't you know, it's not my cot of music, right, but his fan base, Yeah,

he's there. What I will say is, if I have anything to do with any other music, we definitely have understanding that there's no disrespecting anybody dead at homies or any artists in particular. You know what I'm saying, Whatever I touch gotta be just music. And I think really he's got a point in his career where he shouldn't have to do that anymore anyway. So you guys, you pretty much have an agreement with him that if you do get involved on the music side, that the disrespect

has to anything I touched. I mean, I don't know. He may go do some other random shit. That's his business. I can't control that. But if I'm touching it, right, it it can't be you know what I mean. You're talking about you know, somebody's dead, shit like that. I'm really not off into that, so is that something that you think is gonna end up happening where you're kind

of like helping him out on the music side. I've looked at his contracts because I needed to understand that was what, you know what I mean, because it's a lot of things that goes along with you know, publishing deals and things of that nature. He still signed to who he's signed to, right, you know, that's still their business,

you know. But I will look at his contract because if he has any questions about what's going on or what's not going on, I need to be at a answer that, right which you know, I got a legal team, you know, my attorney, sam Rod Singe, is one of the best in the business. So he overlooks everything to see what's what was what. And I'm not really here to rough on these feathers out of his label to

take him from one label to another label. His comfort zone is whereas being it really needs to be there, right But if a questions asked to me, I need to be at a answer that I understand that because if I'm doing business over here, let's say a movie situation, they say, hey, we want him to do the soundtrack, right, I need to understand what his obligations to his label is. Can this be done, does just have to run through his label? Just something that can be done independently, you know,

without going that direction. So that's the reason why I look through those type of things. That forty three million dollars, there's a business you've set up a little more than that, but a little bit more than that, right. You gotta remember you're talking about the artists. Man, that's good for like five eight thousand tickets that ain't never been on tour. You do the math, you know what I'm saying. You know, so that so that that vastly is live show. You

got it. You got no you gotta fight in there's twenty million, so the blue face fight. Yeah. You got NFT deals in there, multiple NFT deals and you set all this up crazy. Uh. You got publishing situations, that's crazy. Your quarterbacked at all. You got torn European torn, that's you know, that's crazy. You gotta remember all my tours I route, me and my wife route and you guys have been on other side. N ain't finn but all my tours I route. You know, my wife does all

the coss and the cleans, passport cleanses. I do the booking, all the hotels, the back line gang, travels with a band, tour, busting flights, do it all. I do all that shit on his phone. You know, agency ain't none of that, right, So uh, it's nothing all the fairy costs or bus routing. You remember, I own the truck, had been twenty some years, so it's the same shit. So I do all of that. So it's just a simple text blast. Hey listen, you know, give me some feedback on what you guys could do. Right.

He's just a ring he's an arena artist. So when you think about it's a lot of money, man, Yeah, you think about it. You you talking about a minimum of three fifty that can go up to access to you know, once you do your back in, cut up or your splits at the doors a merger seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a night. So it really ain't no money that I put out. There's some money, but if you do the math on that, it accumulates, it adds up, and I mean, yeah, I mean shit, that's

a lot. Do we know any sort of window when we can this fight's gonna happen. It's not gonna happen in the US, Okay, So it's gonna probably be overseas Middle East, Saudi Araby somewhere you buy or something, probably not Dubai. Dubai and Bahrain may come together and do something with Saudi. Sadi's kind of making a move to be like Dubai. So we're looking at putting it over there.

The good thing about it is the actual Minister of Finance of Entertainment over there is the one handling it personally. Oh wow, but that's a resource. That's a resource I had that you can reach straight there. I ain't gotta go over here, so you know, at the end of the day, Uh, it'll happen over there. But even with that,

that's just a flat feed. You know, once it's announced, now you got to think about, you know, taking Starbucks and paper view shows and maybe you know, fucking coke sponsorship. Sponsorship is gonna come. So that's just business man, and I don't know, maybe I've I've matured and grown to a point to where some ship don't matter to me, the ship that we used to matter to you, that would keep you up at night, like don't don't I

mean at the end of the day. I mean, listen, it was a point in my life, this real ship that if I was out in public and uh me and my homeboys and somebody told me, yo, that's that nigga cav dog for motherfucking San Diego. Yeah, we rolled him up off the yard because he snitched on the nigga. Right, I'm not from San Diego, I wasn't on the yard, don't know him. At a point in my life, I had have did something to that man, just because of

the politics that I was under. Right today, you could tell me, hey, yo, that's such and such, such and such, such and such, such and such. I don't give a fuck business south of the mind, it's not my business. Whoever need to deal with that, need to deal with that for real. Now, I'm a strong belief in street business, street conversation, street talk, my homeboys, in my neighborhood, other domus or whatever the fuck. You know what I mean.

I would never use the value of a bag of any of that to bring that around six ' nine, because that was part of his problem. When that element comes around, he feeds off into it, and I really think he needs another element around him. He needs a more him leaning into the YouTube shit. He he needs a more uh you know, uh, you know Todd of the creator type surrounding around. Here's somebody that's now what

Steve will do it, which is perfect. I don't know if you know the Milk Boy dudes, but that's he's on the Milk Boys like every week. I think that's like right up his ye. He needs to get in his lane, bro, and be around his people, you know what I mean, and how to proper people around you know what I mean, like like my my demographic and what I bring is not what needs to be around him every day. You know, I got a little crazy crip nigga. I got game. That's a g par rule,

you know what I mean. I got ray J. That is what he is, you know what I mean. So I gotta maintain those elements to make sure my people are straight. I can't put that around that because it's totally contradicting of what I'm saying. He shouldn't have never been a part of you. You and my son have had some words before on the internet. He's someone who used to be affiliated with the game back in the day, right, I mean, he went on a tour too, right, right right.

I didn't know if he was ever a Black Wall Street official. Never he went on the tour. But uh, you know, he's somebody who's out no disrespect my sound is. I'm not gonna say it was my man. He's still my man. It was just getting a little weird because we've always done our debates, right, That's what I'm gonna say. It seems like it's a at least a semi respectful disagreement at least. But he's I seen some ship last night he put up. Yeah, I saw what he put

up last night. And I think my son is like a great leader, like you know, as far as you know everything that's been going on, I mean just always you can look for my song for like direction as far as like if you want to know, I mean, that's what he turned itself into. It's kind of like this like Martin Luther King type revolutionary type that which is kind of confusing because like, yo, listen, if you that stop talking about street ship, M my sign and

like that's my man. I didn't see my son by myself. It's all love, like you know, it's people that's in New York got a ten. They didn't hurt me and my sign orchestrating shit over the phone. That's my man like, I don't want to see nothing happen to him. I don't got that and my heart to do nothing to him. But on the flip side, my sign, I had nothing to say when you was running around with Vlad. We

all knew. You know, Rick Ross never said nothing either Nigga suwing Rick Ross lawsuits, criminal cases and filing shit. You know what I'm saying, because Rick Ross then whooped on Blad ass talk street shit. You run around with Blad, but you know why he was running around with Lad because Vlad was giving you your exposed platform, your platform, which is business understood. That was business understood that You wasn't runing around with Blad saying Nigga this Blad TV

or nothing Nigga would ever come with. You wasn't doing that. You were utilizing that platform because Blad is a big plat shoot and you were doing your rap thing or whatever it is you was doing, and I was working for you. Right, I didn't say hey, my sign and we talked. I got long phone history with my sign text messages for years, right, ain't my sign on some real streets. Shit, what you're doing with blag You know he's doing that the Rick ross A Street nigga. It

was business. But I don't know. I think maybe he runs out of things to talk about. And if he runs out of things to talk about, by all means, as a brother, he can utilize my name to bring some publicity to him. I ain't mad at that. It's entertainment. I ain't tripping. I mean, that's that's not that's a yeah, I'm not a very mature way of looking at it. I'm not tripping. Okay, we talked before the camera's rolling, and I'm not going to use anything to all my

people that it be known. Yeah, my sign and my book is not my enemy. Everybody that loved me that are just moved for me without saying nothing. I don't want nobody ever to approach my sign in a threatening way or question him about anything that got to do with WAG one hundred. That's between me and my soign period. You know what I'm saying. Period some real shit. I want to kind of peel the curtain back a bit

without mentioning any direct names or albums. But you had said essentially let's have the conversation we have before the cameras rolling, but let's exclude all names, right that you had helped a recent project. Yeah, hit a crazy amount of streams its first week, and we're talking a big, big project. All the people guess in the comments, but you know, there's only been a few of these projects

that have dropped this year that everyone's talked about. So explain what happened and kind of peel back the curtain of bit on the industry and how a lot of this I mean, listen, I'm gonna say it in hun terms. The process of music, it starts with the artists, the appearance of the artists, the you know, the studio time, the production, all that, mixed, mastering, write the video and all that. After that comes to marketing. Right. You can't spend to our indie guys teen fifteen thousand on the

song and then nothing on marketing. Bigger the artist is the bigger, the situation is the bigger, the marketing budget is right, and when it comes to marketing, it's a real brainwashing process that people don't understand. Right, you have seeding companies, So what I mean by seeding is like you'll be looking up and you'll say little baby donates fifteen thousand to the schools for books. It'll be on a random thing, right, you don't understand it has you

thinking about a little baby Little d Dog? Does one mean streams of twenty four hours? If you don't know who Little de Dog is, you're gonna hit that link. Who the fuck is is? Oh? Oh, follow, oh that's your song stream? Right. So it's a lot of other types of marketing outside of this, just putting your shit up right, just like radio. Bro, you work radio, of course, they have mixed show, right, and you have your ads, then you have your positioning leading up to your rotation.

It's been songs. I've hated Lil Wayne, one of the greatest of all time. I hated Lollipop six weeks, seven weeks in the radio, two o'clock in the morning, I'm driving up the freeway. Ciga showed you on the thing right, Because I'm hearing this shit so much mentally, my mind started to like it. So it's the same shit when it comes to digital marketing, right, it's a whole nother process that happens for us to holler out an artists and keep it in front of you. And by that

like boosting streams, I mean stream that's streams are boosted. Body, you know, by doing these things. Okay, people follow the number bro. Like let's say, for instance, we watched Kanye and Drake. They already have a fan base, right, but every day you saw Donda does this many streams right right now, let's erase Donda, Kanye and Drake, and let's say it's a little e right or True Card, one of my artists, True Card streams two millions twenty four hours. Right.

The people that follow True Card that didn't know that was there are gonna go. And the people that don't know True Card, they gonna say, who the fuck is True Card? Let go see what they're talking about right now. Money was spent for these things to be put in front of you. So when you work in ten fifteen different platforms from your you know, the smallest own up right, that happens so that in turn drives the stream. Right. Not only does it drive the stream, it creates your

fan base. That's your ticket sales at your concerts. So what you would do is have a digital marketing income definitely that you inside digital. You would drop a bag with and then there they would get your song on a ship ton of us your curated playlist that not not only that, even on your YouTube side. You know you can run ads, right, so you can do YouTube

ads on one side. Then on the seven times you've been watching fucking uh the babies and then somebody person and I'm watching strictly that ship I'm working out, video comes along one of his right, there's about four songs come on to. This is how I discovered Rod Waves. No Ship Wow, crazy about Rod Ray one of my favorite young rappers. He's incredible. Right, I'm working out and I'm listening to uh, you know, uh the Baby Ship

and uh out of Nowhere fuck song? Come on Now, I don't think rod Wave just came on because it came on. That's programming. Did what they did ad buys right from that, I'm now I follow rod Wave. I stream. It's now a day that's went by in the last year that I haven't listened to rod Waves music off of Spotify, right, and I've since then shared it. What about a hundred of my friends and that's my age

and that's how this works. Fuck with this youngster. Now, I don't know how many people charity with and this hard as works not how many people like me discovered it like that? Right, And these are the things that people just simply don't know about. When people say the machine at the labels, not only is the finance there, but the politics of relationships there that says when certain labels called, they're gonna get a slide. You know what

I'm saying. So you know it's it's it's I won't say it's a controlled thing, but it's definitely a machine. It's poll this happened. Where have you seen this happen where there's a project that's coming out and the label drops a bag to boost the streams. And I'm not saying that they're not organic streams because with a lot of these digital markets, and when you say stream boosting, I mean like it's not that people coming in and saying it's not like there's like a we're paying for

these streams to be like this. Stream boosting comes in like different form, ten fifteen different forms. Right, you have marketing, right, So have you seen it where a label will literally drop a stupid bag to ensure their album gets to be number one for the week. Well, the insurance comes from first of all understand this. Labels know, right? You notice no other artists dropped the weeks of Kanye and Drake. True, we know who's dropping. For one. You don't fuck around

with shit. Well Kanye dropped Sunday at eight am. But yeah, well you don't fuck around with shit like that, because now when you go might want to spend one hundred two hundred thousand dollars on the full digital marketing campaign. Right, you fuck around some shit like Kanye, that's like you spend twenty thousand dollars because you know what I mean, they just won't work one song, they'll work fifteen. Yes, you just stay out of that traffic. That shit bigger

than you. You know what I'm saying. You don't certain people you don't fuck with. You just let them get out the way and you let it blow over for about three weeks or a month. Then you come in and drop your back. So when I say that, to say this, if a label is like, all right, we got a we got a marketing budget of a half a million dollars, right, they already know that half a million dollars they're gonna spend here there here YouTube you know,

are seeding companies radio, you know, shit like this. You ever look with to Spotify, right, and you go to Spotify, way for everyone who dms me every day, you cannot pay to get on my platform. Listen anyway, You go to Spotify and let's say Rap Caviar, right, caller race picture. Yep, she's the She's the cover of Rap Caviar. I don't You don't realize if you going to Rap Countyard just to listen to the playlist. Soon as you see that, your first in your mind, I was gonna say, is

let me check out the song. That's what I do to every time someone's on the cover, I go like, let me see what song's on here? From these monther you understand not one thing about Spotify. They pretty much hand picked who they want. Spotify give you a call like hey, we want you all to you know, to be the cover of this, this, this, this and that. But all this shit, right, it's things that are done to kind of because it's been done time and time again.

We know what we spend this here here here there, based upon the artist is following. Now we can expect this kind of traffic. You know what I'm saying. It's just like lib rat shit. Bro, they know we get this motherfucker this dose, this happened, this dose. This is

the same shit. So when you hear people saying that, yeah, you got a motherfuckers say what fuck, we're gonna spend three million, they know that three million is gonna guarantee organically after they do all exposure, three million should bring us, you know, three hundred four hundred thousand album selves. They know these things. I gotta figure out. It's to figure out,

that's just what it is. Last thing I want to talk about without getting into the specifics of the incident, but really obviously when your artist, blue Face got into altercations,

it's all over the internet right now. I don't want to get into what actually happened, but I do want to get into some of the the things that you were saying about this before we started the interview, just about like for any artist who's watching this, you know, about staying out of places where you're not getting the back like kind of you know, obviously you know, blue Face a great dude. Yeah, when you when you're an artist, you're a business. Regardless of what your homie say and

whatever say, you're a business. Everything about you is a business. What you say, what you do? You know, if he has a car accident, it's not going to be you know, Jonathan poored at a car incident. It's gonna say Blue Face the rapper was involved in the car accident. The car incident has nothing to do with music. But because it's him, he's a business and you're a target. You know, in this situation, somebody pulled a weapon out on him, you know what I mean, They pulled a knife out

on him. Man had to defend himself, you know what I mean. And when things start to happen, you know what I mean, when you're seeing camera footage, you're only seeing a part of it, part of it, you know what I mean. But once again, it's like, that's why I urge rappers to keep the proper tools around you. That's gonna absorb those things to where those things happen. The wall is around you to where they can't really get to you. You know what I mean. This is

what security is for. I mean, you've been that wall before. I'll take I've taken that hit, you know what I mean. I mean, that's just me, you know. But unfortunately Blue Faces young man, he has a life, and I think his struggle with this music thing is sometimes he wants to be normal, and I'm trying to get him understand is you're not normal as much as you want to

be normal. That's the downside to this ship. He's also extremely tall, good looking kid with tattoos, so it's not a very inconsect like when you go out there, it's like another one of his downfalls is is he's genuinely a nice guy. Is so he's not an assholder where if you walking up on him, he gonna be like, hey, get the fuck away from you, have people stop you.

He genuinely is a nice guy. He's gonna talk, have a conversation, which opens him up to more if walking up he's on some bullshit, right, So what you don't see is a dude walks up and then blue Light being cool, Hey, how you doing ye, and then he like, hey, fuck your mama, spit sat him for some shit right now, the artist that's a human being reacts Now it's all blue Face did this right, And then that's where it goes.

So that's the pros and constant this shit. You know, when you when you're that right, you can either be regular and not have nobody paying attention to you, and be a hell of an entrepreneur and get your money right. I've known entrepreneurs. At one point in time, shout out to white boy who had more money than everybody in the motherfucking club, was standing outside from the supper club. Couldn't get in because they didn't know who he was,

you know what I mean. So when Game said, that's my part to bring him in, DJ Hollo Cold, send the bottles, halloo cold, yo, this is cold, this is cold, this is cold right now, his identity gave him face and people responded to him as if he was some type of celebrity in our city. Right, So the same rule applied, like once you get that light on you, it's what it is. It's a gift in the curse. It's a gift in the curse. So you got to know that people do ignorant. Look at the blue face

in his fight, dude running the ring. He running the ring, holding his phone in one end, in one hand. He knew, like, I'm doing this because that's blue face. I was closer to him in blue face, but he like, shit, the draw the lights is blueface. So they gonna try and and I think, you know, he's young, he's full of life, he's full of energy, and some time you just want to have fun, just normal fun. And I think he's

learning that that's a task you signed up to do. Yeah, I mean I think for anybody, right like you got, you can't overexpose yourself, you know, Like I think, like even me, Like I tell my wife, you know, I'm like, she wants to go walk down Melrow. I'm like, listen, sweetheart, like, now ain't the time for us to go walk down Melrose with your wedding ring on? Because I'm not gonna be Yeah, it's real ship, I'm not gonna know. I'm

just not gonna be the one. Like like at the end of the day, like big Boy, how many places you see Big Boy is out roam and and and that's you know, I mean, people know who them. I'm like, yo, if I'm not getting paid the DJ, I'm not going to the club. You cannot know what big Boy looks like. Right And a minute he opens his mouth, you know exactly who he is because he's got You could be at McDonald's and not know who this dude would say, yeah, man, give me a whiffers ump. Hello, hey man, aren't you

dude get all excited. Big boy might be having a bad day. Dude, Hey man, grabs big boy bout It showed a big boy throws elbow that see. You know, big boy assaults taxi dude, the McDonald's. This is why Big Boy ain't gonna go in the motherfucker McDonald's. He gonna send somebody else. He gonna go through the drive through. This is what this is there. It is. Well, look, we're gonna transition to the other part of the interview, which is an hour and a half long, and gotcha,

there's a lot of gaming it. Appreciate you, man. It's one hundred interview y'all. Two then the bootleg cav you always have the wels have an open mic here, whack nah. I appreciate it, man, that cav. You know, people don't realize that you can vouch for this. I think about people when they know I'm not thinking about them because it was a few years ago. Well out nowhere, you got a call. I'm sitting with they setting up the real ninety two three and they going over their DJs.

I'm like, yo, y'all need to bring cave to the city. I always tell everything. I always tell everybody, put you right on the phone, called me at dinner, at dinner. We was at dinner. This was in twenty fourteen. Yeah, we was at dinner and I was in Tampa and Whack hits my line, Hey, I'm a doc winner. Right now at dinner, they're launching a rated I'm telling him you're the guy. And I always tell everybody, Yo, Whack really selflessly just threw me their craziest lib. Watch this.

You might hear from Whack every eighteen months. I don't do ship because now I'm gonna, you know, work this situation. I just genuinely do shit. I score amen, And when I can do something. It's a misconception about you. Man. It's like I think, like I always hear people be like, uh, even when they talk about you and they don't know you. I got to step in and be like, Yo, Whack,

ain't that guy? Like people really think like you're like a really unreasonable dude, or like, you know, if you do something for them, you're gonna hang them out like on some sugar night shit over a balcony. I'm like, Yo, Whack is a one of the smartest, smartest guys in the music. And yeah, Sugar never hung anybody over the balcony, so Vanilla has never got hung over the bout definitely got hung over the balcony. But see, it's kind of like the kid that got kicked and all the teachers

seeing was a kid doing hitting. Right, what people don't talk about is that little young black kid right who did the production for Ice Ice Baby, who Vanilla Ice said, fuck you, I'm not gonna give you four or five million dollars. People don't want to talk about how he went through every resource he could to get his money and the shit wasn't right. When he brought it to Sugar Night, she said, Sug, I'll give you half the money. You can get my money. Sugar said, young black brother,

I don't want half your money. I just want what's reasonably coming to me. Let me have my attorneys contact them and figure it out. After eight or nine months of that not working, then he went through other extremes of getting it done. Now watch this. Is it sug Knight's fault that he had to go to that extreme or is it Vanilla ICE's fault for totally ignoring it when it was trying to be handled the corporate way fair enough. So you know, I just got to defend

that because I know what's really behind that. It wasn't a thing with you came in and I you on no fucking verse. But all right, the fuck. You know what I'm saying, and let the record be shown, and do not fuck with Whack either. You know what I'm saying because I've seen the dark side of Whack as well personally me myself. Yo, listen, Whack, Thank you man. Let's get into the rest of the interview right now. All right, look Man, special Edition the one hundredth episode

of the Blueleg Heap Podcast. What a Minor, The Minor, the Monitor, Episode one hundred. We had to do something special and bring my bro, my big brother Man Whack one hundred for episode one hundred. Welcome back this and a Minor. It's a whole lot of ways you could have went, so you know, it's honor to be Yeah. I was like, man, there was a couple of people. I was like, Man, we gotta get Whack back on the episode one hundred. It's only right man on the

West Coast. Shit, Let's do it the way we supposed to. Welcome back. First of all, how has everything been going with you? Man? Because you've been all over every academics post. I mean, shit's been kind of crazy since you did the podcast. You know, you know, it's always a backlash, you know when you go against the grain, you know what I mean. So when you know, when you not flowing the way everybody else is flowing, you're gonna get that back. Last. Now, the question is can you stand.

You gotta be able to stand the ring. Can you withstand that shit? You will stand the ring. A lot of people is you know a lot of people clickish, you know what I mean, and they caught up and you know who gonna continue to talk to them or not? You know what I mean. Unfortunately, a lot of people that I know and do business with, they have been long term relationships and uh they they called me and express what they don't like. But the brotherhood and the

you know, the comrades, shit is too deep. I even got some that won't call me, you know, when they get over being mad, then they called me in there tell me what it was. But other than that, man, you know, you got to be able to stand, and you got to be your own boss and You got to know your own route, you know what I mean. You gotta know what you're doing with it. You know

what I mean, And that's what it is. People sit back and because they don't know what you're doing, assumption when it comes to the to the human mind, they gonna always assume the worst. You know, I'm since then I think I'm Takshi signed to me six ' nine. This man is by me. Shit, I didn't put him on my neighborhood. You know, they come up with all kind of crazy ass shit, but you know, you gotta

let them run wild with it. If you understand entertainment business, because that's the clickbait, that's what keep people talking about you. And hopefully you can put something in fun of the people right to further the conversation. Whack did this, this? This, this, this, oh year and this is coming out of this is going on. So you gotta know how to finessa. You

gotta know how to work well. I think like we did an interview probably like four or five months ago, and in that interview you had said that you did not feel like six nine was a snitch. He was a civilian good So you said that way before you had even had any contact with this dude way before

Roland Loud Weekend. I think I think the mis conception of that that is people saying like, well, he was doing what he was doing, you know what the people he was doing it with, and my whole thing is like those people should have never even had him involved in those things, you know what I mean. It starts with me from the beginning, you know what I mean. I'm not gonna take a hot rod race car and go cross country. I know somewhere in there, you know

that ain't built for that. It's gonna blow up. I'm gonna take something that's standard, start the Cadillac, the Range, roll over some shit that's built for that to take that cross country. But then I'm not gonna take my Cadillac or my Range, roll with my Honda and try to do a compete in a quarter mile, you know what I'm saying. So it's like my whole way of seeing it is, yeah, I see what happened when went on, But you know, I knew that goddamn hot rod was

gonna blow up before I got the Arizona. Motherfucker gets three miles to the gallon's running lean it's running hot, and I'm trying to go cross country and I'm I'm trying to do eighty on the freeway. It's gonna blow over heat. It's going over heat. So I felt like, you know, I understand why they did it, you know what I mean. You had a few people that was trying to figure out the music industry, you know what I mean. And you know, with dealing with artists, bro,

you gotta know how to move them. You gotta know how to furnest them, and you got to know how to bow down to them and let them be the boss and be the employee to them. You know what I mean. It's a tricky game. So you know, I've always seen the kid day one. There's like it was a gimmick. It's a lot of artists that's a gimmick. A lot of dudes running around with tattoos on their

faces and walking a certain way. They just got real dudes around them, and the real dudes around them gives them the persona that they're that so a lot of people might I mean, I think the argument is like he put hits on people's heads, right, He put money on people's heads. He paid people to shoot shooting people, et cetera. And I think the argument is, once you do something like that, you're you're a criminal technically, right like you you you've signed off on that lifestyle definitely,

So what do you you know? Because watch Blow? Of course I love Blow. There was moving more goddamn cocaine than the law. A lile, right, But deep down inside, who was he? I mean, yeah, he was just a normal dude. Okay when the heat came? What did the normal dude do? What are you supposed to do? Right now? I was the guy playing blow? Right. Unfortunately, I'm subject

to the politics, and I've been in these situations. I've been charged with murders that I know I didn't commit, and all I can say is I pleaded the fifth see you in court. My homeboys is sitting there. The people that know what they know, the details behind it. They didn't jump up and say, oh no it wasn't him, it was me. And you know what, they did what

they supposed to. They supposed to be quiet. Right, this is a better situation if they put in the body on somebody that we all know didn't do it, I got a better chance of being in them, right. But I'm gonna sit down. I'm gonna spend some money, but this would come with it. I'm you know, I'm born and bred and I'm into this shit. I'm initiated into this right and everybody, no matter what, bro me and you right now could go to the marine's training camp.

That don't necessarily mean we're gonna become a marine. You have to pass things and go through stages of things for them to say you are now that they can't this out. We're here for Marie. Put him on the chopper, send his ass up against that. You might he might have a gun in his hand. He might bust some shots in the right direction. We might see my nigga and detonate the whole motherfucker battalion because we don't know what we're doing with this grenada. We don't know how

to move. So, you know, no matter what they tried to pain him to be right, you give a twelve years the keys to a Lamborghini, he gonna get in that motherfucker man, and he ain't gonna drive her like a Lamborghini. Shit, I can dry this. I barely know how to drive fucks, but I know to drive by My school might run up on the curb running to this. She ain't no telling what he's gonna do. When it comes back, you're gonna say, yo, you drove the Lamborghini like this. He didn't see it was a kid that's

driving a car. That's all he's seeing. It wasn't supposed to be driving. So you tell him a dude like this, We're gonna do whatever you tell us to do. He's already intrigued by the streets, right right, right, So in his head he like, one side of him is like, damn they gonna I can tell him what to do. The other side is, you know, I'm a Collie cocking. Fuck it, Okay, do this, oh shit, do that? Oh shit. And so then you got people saying, well, because he

was telling them these things, that makes them bad. Nah, no it don't. So let's get a few of the misconceptions out the way. Obviously, you're not working. You're not getting any money with six or nine outside of maybe a fight with blue Face. If they're not a fight with blue Face set up with him. So that's gonna happen. And that's the whole thing, right is that to me? Right? The streets and the music industry, Uh, they're not the same people in the music industry talk about the streets.

If that dude that was doing the talking about the streets really did those things, his ass of being a penitentiary be incriminating himself, right, because most of the people who are actually doing that, as you've seen over the last couple of years, they got reco charges charges quick. I mean, who shisky is sitting down right now, one of the hardest rappers in the world. You don't shout out the nephew to a good dude, good youngster man.

Similar respects to his father and his family. But so I've never personally seen the exist on the fiftieth floor say listen today, we're gonna determine if a little de doll get put on the hood. I've never seen that conversation on the fiftieth floor, right, And I've also seen them say you two dirty in them streets that come to the fiftieth floor. Right. So street businesses, street politics

is just that, right, That's what it is. You catch me trying to take six y nine to somebody neighborhood, shoot the video or you know some crazy shit like that, I'm in total violation, right. I would never even bring my homeboys who will follow me into the fire around that because that's not their thing. They're not part of the business. They'll be there with me. Right. So whatever it is I did choose to do with him, that's why wasn't nobody with me with my wife and kids,

which I said day one. You know my daughter's a fan, that's what that is. You know she don't give a shit about none of that. Right. But if I got an attorney on the fifty yeth floor and he got my email, I got his email and the email attested to him, and attorney says, hey, I see this, this is available. It's just something that he may want to do. And my attorney's talking to me. In this business, I'm definitely gonna conduct that business. I'm not the guy to say,

fuck six ' nine. I want to see him starve to death. I want to see him die today and never make another die. I can say that that's not realistic. He's what he represents to his fans is bigger than me. I'm not his fan base. So what's driving his revenue is gonna continue to drive his revenue. Whether what we think about it or not, it don't matter you know what I'm saying. So I'm a businessman, right, I've done business with Jewish people, gay people, crips. You know what

I'm saying. I've done business with all kinds of shit that may not like me. One of my head plumbers who gave me a twenty percent discount was a Nazi type dude. I can tell that, the big bed red, real red nig dude. But you know that was who he was. That had nothing to do with the service I needed. You know what I'm saying. So I'm never I'm always been the woof of my world bros. As a kid, you know what I mean. If I see it my way and I see a different way or

a different lane, I'm gonna follow my lane. If I crash and burn following my lane, right, I can live with that. But if I crash and burn and starve to death following somebody else's lane, I can't live with that. That's fair. So you're let me ask you this because I think everyone respects you and your acumen as a businessman in the music industry. Right, I think you're one of the most brilliant minds in the game. You know. I always say, like there's a lot of misconceptions about

you as a person. Would you like, obviously you're from Pacoima, your you know your your your reputation in the streets speaks for itself. Right at this point in time in your life, do you put the business first or being a Pyu first? Oh, parrus first when it comes to Paru business. Okay, break that down, because I think some people might look at what it is. Okay, this is

what it is. You got some people that's from the neighborhood and they gonna be They're gonna do what they told to do, Okay, no matter what they want to do. And you got some people who do to dictating on what's being told to do. Some people that politic at the table was being told to do. My neighborhood hasn't. Uh, those are not my streets, right, That's where I'm from, right, let's get this right. When they were my streets, I woke up every day. That's where I got my money.

That's where I protected the blocks every day. Yep. That's why I did my dirt, have my fun, My partying was right there like a hamster on those streets. Right. It's a whole nother team over there that that's they streets, right. I don't dictate or override what they choose to do. Those streets are being managed totally different today than they were my heyday. Right, things have changed. You know. We glorified selling dope, getting the money. All of them glorified

how much dope they use today. You know who am out of judge that's their thing. You know what I'm saying. We signed our pants down, our fucking ankles. They just wear them tighter, you know, that's the thing. Right. So Paul ruebinness, it's just that six ' nine never mixes with that. He shouldn't have been mixed with that in the beginning when they was doing what they was doing out there, that should have never happened. I took anfence to him running around with the rainbow here in the

red Bandella. That's something that I would never practice. That you would never have co signed if it was someone come out of LA. Wouldn't happen. It's not gonna happen, either you're that or you not. You know what I'm saying. My family business, it's just that, my business is just that. I mean, because if I was on some real parru street ship I wouldn't have signed blue Face fair enough. Right, it's real politics behind me signing blue Faces, deeper than

people know outside of cripp and blood ship. You know what I'm saying. You know that maybe some of them don't know. It's a few of minds don't know. Right. So if I was like on some if dictated everything on the music side, yeah, it can't happen. I mean the end of the day, Snoop Dog wouldn't have been a death Row nor would dance a corrupt with Nate Dog, fair enough. But we all run around it with the

death Row shirts. And that ship was really was built on the talents and skills of criptism and and and the business of a politics. So we've established that, right. So you know, obviously with the six nine thing, I feel like there's been like we had Glasses Malone up here, right, and glasses spoke. Glasses did not speak towards you in any sort of funny way. Right, Glass is gonna totally disagree with what I'm doing one million percent. That's my nepht.

I know what he's gonna Glasses like, I think he's gonna see it. You gotta understand, Glasses, look at me like Nigga, that's one of our West Coast generals, right, but it's not the general that's conducting that business. You understand what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just like I'm not whack from Paru when I'm being dad to my kids, and you're not whack from Piru when you're brunning one hundred entertainment and definitely and looking for new town. I had,

I had bro listen. I caught so much flack behind blue Face, the famous crip who had a song I'll called respect my crippet right right now. If I would allow all that those powers to be to dictate my business, it's a reason why I transition out of doing business in the streets of doing business in the building. I realized a long time, it's only profitable for so long. You get a two year run, eighteen running month run, three five year run, you know what I mean. Look

at BMF for one. You know, these dudes is making a lot of money, but you know they've been gone, you know. You know what I'm saying, right, So it's kind of like, you know, I feel like slow and steady res the rates with me, you know what I mean? The long, long, more the longevity, the more longevity you had to doing something, the more successful chance of being

successful at it, you know what I mean. So I don't expect everybody glasses says, he's just moving into the lane of being in exec You know, he got an art institute. Now, you know, he came to see me, you know what I mean a couple of weeks ago to figure out a few things. Right, he's moving into that and he's gonna cross those those thresholds where it's coming to some things that you know he wasn't supposed to be. Had ten believe it or not, caught some

flat over signing g Malone. I don't I don't doubt that he Inglewood Blood Queenstreet. It's a bunch of rappers in the wood, like hold on, man, you could have did that. But g he he he equated six ' nine to being worse than Hitler. He said he is an evil, demonic man who's worse than Hitler. I wouldn't say he's worse than Hitler because the casually between the holocausts and uh, I'm just saying what eed nine yeah, eighty nine individuals who's laying down you know, you know

a lot of people got to understand. You know, I kind of did a little research on a few days, and I ain't justified nothing that six ' nine did. And I think also, I think people think that you are, but if you actually watched the interview academnic, you didn't just find anything. I'm not justified nothing he did. I was really trying to really get him to understand what he was and what he never being, you know, when he came to that. But I think there is a

slight misconception. Right, six ' nine did not send him he even body the prison. He ain't said nobody to prison. What he did was say the CELP of call to prison. Right, because everybody already was indictment, was indicted. They were all part of the same Rico case. They were all indicted already, uh ninety percent of them if you really gonna read their paperwork, right, was violating the street code, fucking right on their phone, saying things on their phone, doing things

on their phone they weren't supposed to do. So whether six ' nine did what he did or not, they were still going to the penitentiary, right, So it wasn't like they arrested him and then they didn't know about everybody else. Then he's like, Nah, this dude, this dude, this dude, And they released him when he wore a wire tap to you know, to glide this dude up,

this dude up. All y'all had y'all warrants, all y'all got pretty much arrested by the same time, you know what I mean when he went on the breakfast club. They all knew it was coming. He was trying to trying to disassociate it. He knew it, but it was it was already too late, you know what I mean. I think they only went and picked everybody up because the wire taps. He had something going on in Connecticut and they heard on the wire tap that they was

gonna push up on him in Connecticut. That's when they're like, Okay, we're not gonna jeopardize this. It's time to pick everybody up, right, So they was going regardless. Right, brother, this man he could have went in there and kept it gangster and said fuck that, I ain't saying nothing. He would have just been in there with him. Nobody was getting out right. Everybody pretty much lined themself up. Taps on the wire taps.

We've heard some of the leaked conversations and some of those wire taps, you know, was were not in favor of six nine. It was some of those cases they got it was crimes committed against him. So you know, whatever they had coming, it was coming to them anyway based upon whatever they was doing. Right, yeah, right, So at the end of the day, they was going anywhere. They was running the fucked up ship. You know, it

was a sinking ship. And that's what it was. What he did was what I expected the guy from blow to dude. He turned back to who he really was, straight up. And that's why my people that's around me, right, those people that went to the military and got trained, that's what they kidnapped their motherfuckers. They sitting there torturing the motherfuckers what they trained to do. Say they motherfucker name,

and they rank, and they they in they number. That's it. Now, you take a motherfucker that ain't been trained for that and skilled for that. That's why some people are just this. Some people mayvy seal, some people green beret. Right, it's it's a different thing. They not gonna send the death dude to send the Marines out to do the Green Beret job because they know if he get caught, he's going, oh yeah, the office over here and the such and

such as over here and the generals over here. Right, So they send the Green Beret dudes in there because that's a different type of training versus physically, physically, mentally, and psychologically, right, because if they get caught, they trained to die with it, die by it. Uh. It's nothing about Takashi that tells you that he's gonna be able to withstand that pressure. It's not gonna happen. The pressure is strong. I even had some some real gangsters crack.

You know. I tell people what the dude is willing to accept that twenty five. He may not be willing to accept that forty five. You know, motherfucker go find out what they are maybel living backwoods Alabama. Quick man, we got thirty years for you man. Fuck it. Whoo whoo woo woo woo wooh wooh wooh woom, disappear gone. Because he rather deal with it like that free than sit in that penitentiary but keeping it real while he watched others go fuck his baby mama. Yeah, his baby

mama's moving on. You know what I'm saying go hit his spot. So this is just real shit, right and his kids. This is what happens. So and I tell people this, This is why. You know a lot of my soldiers right, the older they get, the less involved I make sure they are when it come to that kind of thing, right, you know, I try to move them into being professional businessman. Not to say that they are cracked, but I don't want to even put them in a position or a situation where they got to

even think about it. They've got to think about that, yeah, perod, I mean I understand it, because at the end of the day, you don't ever want to you know. I feel like when you get yourself involved in that, it's not probably out of choice, it's out of environment, it's out of necessity. And the goal is having fun with something that that's not fun. What I'm saying is like the goal is though, like obviously, if you the goal

would be to evolve and and get out of that eventually. Right, No, listen, I'm gonna tell you right now, my goal for the last three years has been to not even be on the West Coast at least reef four months out of the year, and you be in China working on ship home. I'm by a coastal. I live on these coasts when I want to, right, So that's now my goal is to I on'tly want to be here six months out

the year. You know, I want to spend two months overseas conducting business, you know what I mean, and then I can spend another month vacation in another three months this other places that I need to be. I don't. I don't want to run the hood. I want to position myself to come back and control the hood by means of real estate businesses. You know, my ultimate goal, and my ultimate goal is to come back and buy my projects. That been the goal of mine is to

come back and actually purchase my projects. And I can't get that done in the hood because whatever I can do in the hood, or but have to do in the hood, it's gonna hinder me from having the proper documents, paperwork and cash flow to go do that. You know what I'm saying. I got to come back a business. I gotta come back a mogo to do that, you

know what I'm saying. So, and I'm not knocking. What I want to be is is to those in my neighborhood who not being brainwashed by those as my age and older than me and salty and mad because they didn't find their way out. Say well, look, we know this dude was this, this did time, put in work, did all the crazy shit and all that, and he was able to turn it around and do that. Do that. I got a g deep central jevenile hall. If I'm able to do it, it ain't nobody in my neighborhood

is not able to do it. I didn't. I didn't. My one hundred percent of my success our music. And I don't think my big my biggest success is gonna be music, because really I look down on myself for doing what I do in music because I'm still depending on another man. I wake up in one of my artists and there's some crazy shit. You know, this shit, and this shit it affects the business men. You know, you can't just birth of artists overnight. You got to

start back over and rebuild. Any businessman know at that point in time the revenue gonna change, so you got to downsize and you got to do things a little different. That's where the diaper company comes from, me challenging myself to do something outside of this that can create another top of wealth, and then you're only depending on yourself and your team as opposed to because you know, and it's on me. Artists are very They're variables, right, You're

dealing with artists. Maybe they have a bad day. Maybe, you know, yeah, you know, you know a lot of my real business partners. You know, it's like people from the NAACP. You know, people that run financial institutions. You know, eighty percent of my time on the phone is with them, right, I'm not talking to the homies. That's a text. You straight, you straight, You're good, You're good. Great. You know what I'm saying. Other than that, that's what that is. Hey,

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to the interview. Let me ask you this, whack. I think people, first of all, love when you share your thoughts online because I feel like they're genuine and you're very very like you know, like you said you don't go to ship people thinking were scared to say so, but but there's so let me ask you this right. Why there's people who will be like, yo, why is

whack online? So much like you'll be on clubhouse called crazy on clubhouse, clubhouse shout out to my my nephew, Rocky the world family, nainety second Street, as he would say, So yeah, the room, no, so just give me like like, no way, I'm gonna give me. You go ahead, Okay, My little home boy had a room, right, and he like, man, I'm trying to get my room popping right. So I'm like, all right, I had to understand club I really know it. The shit, well, I'm come and see what it is.

I'm like, all right, cool. So when I did the six nine interview, right, I tell nephew, listen, once you go on vacation for a minute and put me with the people so I can set up the room. He like, what you mean? I need you to go on vacation because you know you're young, nigg real blood. You know what I'm saying. He don't mixed with that shit. He just in the room as Rocky Eaglewood family. So by the time he spent off of due what he do, I come in and bring the kid in the host room.

His room go from thirteen thousand to thirty thousand overnight. I don't come in and say get me half of the room. I want to own the room. Right. I passed the room back to nephew. He hasked some things to say to me. He like, damn, monk, you could have told me what you was gonna do. Man, I might not have been with it. I said, listen, you see where your room is at. Right, Yeah, I took the hit. I'm at to take the back lash for it. I take that room and go generate you some revenue. Right.

He loved me today for it. He didn't agree, right, but you know, and then clubhouse is a fun space where you boy, it ain't got nothing to do. He be there, went to sleep early in the day, six o'clock, got up at sixty midnight. You get up. Everybody else sleep stay up on clubhouse. Right. I also feel like you low resurrected clubhouse because I definitely did. That's what

they did. Yo. I'm like, I didn't even know if people were still on Clubhouse until I'm like, Yo, wax Gold crazy, gonna cll me fucking I reinstalled the app.

I literally, but let me ask you this, right, So, like the six nine thing happens, and so much fallout as far as relationships with you and artists who people might perceive you to be close with, like obviously, h there was a Jim Jones French shoot that you pulled up to early last like last year, and then the Jim Jones thing happens, where you know, well, you know, I got to blame for something had nothing to do with me, because they say I provide the platform for

him for six nine to say what he said, right, But I'm gonna keep it gangster, don't. I don't. I don't harbor fugitives, you know what I'm saying. I got a lot of people that I with new fifteen, twenty thirty years and then you know, somebody slid me some paperwork, you know what I'm saying. And based upon what I'm reading or what i'm seeing, not to say i've seen paperwork on gym, I just heard the recordings of me understanding the law. I'm a little confused and one sided

with that because I know what that is. You know what I'm saying. So and you didn't necessarily bring up your skepticism about that situation until they were static brought to you. Yeah, well, you know he he he had wanted to bring it up doing an interview, but I didn't know nothing about what he was talking about. I'm like, Yo, you can't talk about Jim doing his interview because because I don't know what about Trumble, I can't defend him,

you know what I'm saying. So he he was so adamant about wanting to show me what he was talking about. It's scared I did some buster shit because I was good with Jim at the time, right, And I didn't even let him show it to me, because if he showed me something that's real, then I gotta let him talk about it, right, So I didn't want that to happen on that on that right. So that's why if you look at that like that never came up in

that interview, right. He tried to show me something on on on casting over right, what he had on his phone. So me and Casting over relationship is kind of like we see each other one day as who another day. We may not say nothing to each other. And I know he in the situation he end, and I don't like to kick no man when they down, So I didn't even entertain what he was trying to show me because Casanova ain't here to defend itself. So that's why I didn't allow that to be talked about, you know

what I mean. You know, so it's kind of like I don't know where me and casanovad you know what I mean. I think we both respect each other as men, but then we got our little issues with each other about whatever it may be. Right, So that's why i'd allow that to happen. But you know, when they come on clubhouse and you know he was on, I got tired of people asking me about yo six nine is so you know what I'm gonna bring you on there y'all asking and would shock the shit out of me.

Is the people that will come super aggressive at me about six y nine questions on clubhouse man, Well your six ' nine sir, excuse me man asking fuck me up? Right now. I'm one person, bro, I'm one person, and I'm going to defend myself when I say about giving him a platform. Right, I want everybody to see this. If you people really felt the way you feel about this individual, right, it should have said Whack one hundred invites six ' nine in the clubhouse. Only eight people

showed up. It should not say that. Damn there, fourteen thousand people came through there to a point that the clubhouse staff they fucking expanded their bandwidth because it's seven eight thousand people coming in there at the time and another four five thousand people waiting to get in there. I didn't give him the platform. The people that came in there to hear that man's speak gave him the platform, right if it was. If it's that bad with him

with why support him that the venue should be empty? Right, We've all seen an empty venue. So I think people might be like, why you did the interview? Obviously there's there's the blue face fight that is that gonna happen, Definitely gonna happen. I'm about about six point five million away from the mark the number I need, which is easy to on time. Once you get the money going, it's easy to pull other people. We'll get to the

fight and all that. But but but then people might say, Okay, well look we get it, you did, you did it, But but why continue to kind of bring him into your world, like you know, he's not in your world. One time you've seen him one time I did an interview. How often do you talk to six nine? He called me probably about two three times a week. So what you say at this point in time he had text me on your face time and let me know that, you know, he got something because his business going on.

Would you say, at this point in time, you guys are friendly with each other. Well, I'm not saying you guys are friends I don't have. I'm not looking to do nothing to him. I was looking to do something to him. I would have been done. I wouldn't have never set out and did the interview. I feel like it ain't my job to do nothing to him, you know what I mean. I mean, at one point in time, that used to be the politics that when its own

like that, with somebody's own like that. But you know, I come to realize that people selectively politic what they want to do, when they want to do it, and with who they want to do it with. We you know, unless you my direct comrade, you know what I mean, you my direct comrade. It don't work like that with me. You know what I'm saying, Because I look up all the time and video shoots and all kind of shit and people going live, and I'm like, damn dude really

in there with dude. He was just at the studio. We was having a discussion. But you know, okay, well that's the way it's curbed. It's cool, the selective politic. And I feel like is definitely something that that that that did have some merit when six times bringing that up in the interview, because there are I mean, I'm not gonna say any names, but there are artists, there

are executives that that. I mean some of the artists, right, like some big guys right that you know all but pretty much you can confirm if probably and got down you know, you know, it's some niggas that used to be crips's bloods. There's probably some dudes used to be bloods. It's crips. You know, it's all kind of shit and people know about it, but because of whatever's going on with the business, they kind of overlooking. Well also too, I think like the reason why people are so the

six nine thing was such a huge story. It was like, it's only a huge story, Let's keep it real. The story was only huge because of his platform. Who he is, right right, people can say what they want. Anything seen around his name. People go crazy about y'all giving that power, not me. You know what I'm saying, I don't. I can't. I can't recite the six nine verse. I can't. You

know what I'm saying. I would have to go to the Spotify and see maybe one song I heard mistakingly and I was like, Yo, that shit hard as a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying, Like I couldn't front you know, hard, all right, that's him. I get it. But you know, at the end of the day is you know, the people that really have a lot to say about him don't matter. We're not part of his success as an artist. We're not the ones going to his concerts. We're not

gonna buy his merch whether he told or not. Right, we wouldn't have brought his mid Way, we wouldn't have brought We ain't streaming his music. You're not his audience either. We're not his audience. So a lot of people that's doing a lot of talking it really don't matter. Like you know what I'm saying, he kind of wasting your time because his fan base they don't care. Do you feel like you see his engagement the boy put up

some bullshit on It's crazy it's crazy fifteen million. Do you feel like do you feel like like doing that interview that it cost you anything. I'm pretty sure it cost me a few friends. I'm really not bothered by a life of people because I'm really a loner type dude. My close friends have called me and god on me. I think the one that Thinnk got on me the most, right this bird Man. Yeah, you know, I you know, I'm a I'm a dude to keep it one hundred.

You know. Ain't nobody bigger than the politics. That's my brother and we get on each other. But Birdmen, out of everybody, bird Man that got on my ass, like on me. He told me how dissatisfied the year. He said, I love you, you my brother. I ain't never going against you. You know that we didn't been in the trenches together, but god damn it, just the way I feel. What did he say? You know, he just told me, he said, who you are and what you stand for,

what you represent is greater and bigger than that. Right. So even at the end of the day, some people got that lane with me, you know what I mean where they can call me and I'm gonna humble myself and I'm gonna listen, you know what I'm saying, because I got that respect for him. They they earned that from me, you know what I mean. I got a

few of my brothers. I ain't heard nothing from, you know what I'm saying, And eventually I hear something from maybe I won't, you know what I mean, But I know what my mission, to my goal is what I'm doing. People are gonna take it, and they're gonna paint the perception that they want to paint around it. Like it's some people that I feel like shit going on with that. I feel like others shouldn't fuck with, right t I for one yo, till they figure that out. You know,

I ain't with that kind of shit. Are you talking about the allegations about it straight up? Like with the women? Yeah? And then it's gonna be interested to see that what comes of this, you know what I mean? Me personally, I can't front I know t I I'm a t I fair listening to our music. I hope he's innocent of this shit. But I hope, I really really hope that he's innocent of that. Right. But it's some things that then went on in this man's life that a

lot of people don't overlook too keeping it real. Motherfuckers ain't crazy. It's a lot of motherfuckers being to the fairs. Motherfuckers understand the twelve month a day kick out, you know what I'm saying. You know, And things are done differently these days. So it's like, you know, it's a lot of things that they went on and I look at certain people and say, but I understand it, right. You know, it may be out of genuine love as

a brother, maybe some business going on. It may be that they see it different than me, right, you know, and vice versa. So I'm gonna understand my side of it too as well. You know what I'm saying. I think, like you said, like with the select with the selective politic, and there's a lot of that, you know. At the end of the day, like I've done it. I've done it. Like I didn't ask my artists do some shit they did wrong on they're my artists, you know, what the

what the fucking what's something like that happening? It's kind of do blue face, right, I've got calls in his videos to where his homeboys was disrespecting with hand signs. Right, I got thirty forty year history with some of these neighborhoods. You know what I'm saying. You know, they do shit so fast these days. I didn't catch it, you know what I mean. I'm paying attention to the artists, to the music, I'm paying attention to what he's saying, what

he's doing. I really ain't catching you know, what everybody else is doing, but they like, you know, a whack, that's your artist on your watch, your fucking video, you putting it out, and this this and this, this and this that. Right, fuck dude. You know what I'm saying, Nah, I can't ain't no fuck dude, right because you know, outside of me doing business with this man, I've learned to love this man genuinely. I feel like you and your wife kind of took him in as like your

own man. Like I mean, you know, he has he has a mother, he has a very lovely I just in terms of like that. But just I remember when we first met him, your wife was telling us how like you guys are helping him just get situated with his first home purchase at the time. His home purchase is credit is life insurance, his medicals, diner, everything, and I believe that young man is gonna grow to be something great outside of music because he got a great mind and he's a good kid man. Yeah, you know

what I mean. Young So he got he gonna do. He's still right now. He tell you take the fuck out of me. Some ship he doing. And I'm pretty sure, hey, he only see that phone ring in one in the morning. He already know. But I think he knows that ain't to control him that I want to seem better. I want to see him be here, you know what I'm saying, Because a little young man here, you know, he got the heart of a line and he ain't scared of nothing.

But you know it's some things I'm telling him. The bigger you get, you know what I mean, the less lead way you had to make mistakes, you know what I mean, he gonna be great. He gonna be greater than what he's doing in music one day. You know, he's a business man. His restaurant, that's something he set out and did. I didn't even know he was doing it till he told me. Had he fire set out and did put it together? You know what I mean? So that let me know he a young boss, and

I'm gonna respect him as that. But because of my relationship and my bond with him, right, yeah, I probably when it came to this cripping blood that I was probably supposed to be a little more assertive or aggressive of what my people was calling me about, but the selected politics because who he was to me, I probably dealt with it a little wilder done you you know what I'm saying. You know, And and with this gang culture we got, man, it's so many it was out here.

That's you know, we crips, and we got bloods is our brothers and families. We bluods and we got crypts. That's our relatives. People we didn't did time with all of us, got some top of hatred and then some top of love and respect for the same side, for the same enemy, you know what I mean. So it's a little different. What did you and twenty one Savage ever have any dialogue after the uh, very very very loud back and forth were pretty much They're like, it's

on site. I'm glad you brought that up, because I wasn't thinking about it. Like bird Man been on my ass about twenty one Savage almost to a point where I'm damn they're jealous. Man, he is whack. That's family man, Savage, family man, you a g So what if he stepped out of line a little bit? You know, he family. You didn't told me you fucked with him. I told

you I loved the little nigga to death. You supposed to swallow that and dealt with that difference, like he hear another when bird Man had been on my ass about but me and Savage spoke the same day after the fact. I think what it was was somebody it somebody already told me Savage had a distaste with somebody did and I wasn't tripping. So when they pinged him to the room they told me he was down there,

I'm like, you'll bring him up. So I'm under the impression I'm just gonna ask him, your savage, what's the issue? He gonna tell me, and we're gonna have a conversation because we both had mutual respect for one anohing right, But he you know, he kind of told me somebody fed in some other ship, you know what I mean to where when he came into the room, he was already on charge because he was thinking something totally different. So you know, yeah, so what's triggered him off. A

little nigga, little gangster and a little punk. So you know, he figured somebody saying this is saying these things about him. He coming in a room. He dealing with the ship head on right, I get it understanding now. So we had a conversation in uh, one of his rooms. I mean the way we chopped it up people was in a room. This was after the been, the one that went viral a been a couple of hours later. Because listen, for people who don't know you, you you have when you

are activated. No listen, I am like, like you know this businessman father, Uh, but when you're when your fuse is gone. I mean I know to do that right. Doing that is more for me and more natural to me than being this other dude. You know what I'm saying. No matter you know, with age, it don't do nothing but make you a more grouch your don't you know what I'm saying. That's all it does. So you know when it happened because of who it was, I think I did great and that was probably due to my

my my, my, my wife. I just held to me that I need to learn how to, you know, deal with my anger and not snap and I have a short fuse. That's why I kind of like I was trying to deal with it, but he just kept coming. And then you know, it's always this little man on my shoulder. I can't get rid of this motherfucker man. He always trying to tell me and remind me of some shit I should be mad at and how I should be reacting. You know, when I'm trying to keep

a focus, mind like this, dude, don't go nowhere. I don't want. I want to get rid of it, but then to get I don't because he's kept me alive. I don't go down that block. You know what you gotta do, Get off hand of your business, get up out of there. Right. He's part of my instincts, you know what I mean. So that's why when I when I when I did talk to Savage a couple hours later, he came out and said, listen, man, you know I thought this and thought that so the way I came

I might have came wrong. And I knew for him to say that after I had approached him the way I did, and we approached each other, I knew it was genuine and there was some grown man shit, and he really was outclassing me at that point in time for me to keep tripping. So I had to hear him out. So we you know, we verbally talked and verbally was cordial for like another twenty thirty minutes towards

each other. Let me ask you this, right, because I know that you had kind of you know, you've obviously evolved as a man, right, Yeah, from being in your younger days, definitely. And I think that there's an argument that someone like maybe Meek Mill, who who you know. I know that you know you had kind of said like, look, once you state that this is what it is, then when you're presented with the opportunity, you got to you got to keep that energy to be real with you, right.

I think something going to come good out of the meet meal situation. What do you mean? Because I don't think he's gonna ever do that again. Essentially, he's never going to step out online again because I don't think he's ever gonna voist what he's gonna do when he sees somebody, right, I think he's gonna handle that differently. I think if that's his thoughts, he might keep that to himself. If he gonna do it. He's gonna do it, but I think he's gonna put hisself in the position

to where the light ain't on him to do it. Well, that's what I was gonna say about Like the teop wouldn't saying nothing. Nobody was gonna say nothing. What I was gonna say about the twenty one Savage thing is like, obviously even if he saw six or nine at the club, like he didn't know, he didn't. But but but I'm saying, like hypothetically, you know he's got it. It wasn't his Well, see, he has not had all kind of ship that he was saying. Savage said it did, so that was his

whole thing. His whole thing is if you one of those dudes saying you're gonna do something to me, he don't care about his saying Fox is now you're a rat. He don't give a fuck about that. If you want him. Dudes are saying when I see you, it's on, then

he sees you and that happens. That's his home. Yeah, I would just I would hope twenty one Savage would risk his freedom, is his career just because you know, well, I mean I defended twenty one in the in the interview he did because I was like, just because y'all in the same he saw you, and he saw you and then at the same token, uh, he ain't the one got the real direct beat with you, So a why would he put on his online you know what I'm saying at the end of the day, you know

what I mean. So I said, listen, if he did say or do these things because I hadn't heard it or seen it personally, then I feel where you're coming from. And I think that's what Savage had a problem with, you know what I mean. But once we talked and he kind of you know, he got it like I got where he was coming from. I don't expect twenty

one to beat the under not at all. Have you given six ' nine any off camera, off clubhouse advice, because if I feel like Tony mister starm disrespecting the dead, you know what I'm saying, I told him that you didne made enough enemies. Want you give some attention to your fans. I don't think that you need to be so controversial on the negative side to bring attention to

your music. I think it's I've seen him do things, you know, like over the years when I don't even know who he was, and I've seen him like go visit uh, go and visit uh kids, you know what I mean, that on their last leg of living and stuff like that. So I just feel like, you know, if you're gonna do something, man, focus on your music and do some positive things. Man, you know your fans. Let your fans love you. People that's gonna hate you,

that's gonna they're gonna hate you. You've done what you did. There's no sense in antagonizing them anymore, you know, especially the Little Dirt shit. You know, I like Little Dirt. Yeah, the Dirt shit. I feel like he's out of pocket. I like, I like Little Dirt, you know what I mean. So you know, think Little Dirt and made versus something on some Drake song you know, I don't know, or some shit, but so what, it's a verse, you know what I mean? The fuck? You know what I mean.

I like Little Dirt, you know what I mean. So, you know, anybody tied the Little Dirt, you know, he needs to refrain from saying the things he's been saying. You know this, this is what I told him, you know what I mean. So whether he does. It looked at me like he might be doing it, but you never knows his own man, when you're going to think advertising, I'm moving around with no security now, probably not the smartest.

I think his whole thing was that is because I hate to say it, he's really trying to expose the streets because the streets is painting the picture of those in the streets. That's saying what they want to do that I can't do because it is you know what I'm saying. So he's like, yo, bro, stop lying. I'm

not moving like that. I'm right here. So that was his way of kind of like exposing do you think instead of really exposing the streets, he really just exposed the perception of what hip hop hip hop fans think is the streets, right, because we look at definitely our favorite artists and we think, yo, that's the streets. At lot I seen Rick Ross. Uh I was on Instagram and Rick Ross was they was he was interviewing. It might have been Breakfast Club and they asked Rick Ross

about the Drake Kanye thing. Said, menim dudes got too much money. I think I want to see I wouldn't see them doing so together ross thing. They got too much money. They having fun with it, right. But you know, to the fans, you know, they eating that ship up. You know, they think Drake gonna come from some gangsters from the six and Kanye gonna come from some gds some ship from Chicago. But that's not gonna happen. These dudes. These dudes can't control. They always know when gonna be

in the building where they are. Their situation says they can be in the bill that's gonna be the section, that's gonna be their section, you know what I mean. So you know, I hate to say it, but the world we live in social media, they crave negativity. You put up something, you're doing something positive, whatever. I feel like, what's the brother Trade of Truth should get millions of

likes and views? Of course, man, he's one of the rarest community relief game some relief games rogers, right, you see, he get his He get it as little perks because a lot of people with blue checks might be on it, right, But I think Trade of Truth does deserves the millions of you. I feel like Trader Truth should have forty million followers, right, But then you go over here to

the other dude, right, that got less followers. But he may promote a fight, say yo, fuck this, fuck that, of this, this and that, and that's where all the traffic goes. Unfortunately, that's the world we live. That's what it is. And I understand that. I understand that to be entertainment. See a lot of these people take this ship to sais and too real. It's like the news. If you think about the news, the ratings for the news were the highest when Trump was in office, straight up,

because they want the controversy. This dude, the controversy. He's gonna say some crazy He's gonna say some wild shit every day New CNN, Twitter, Instagram, and then and and and whether you're on the left or the right or in the middle, there's a channel for you to go and there it goes reaffirm what you feel. And a lot of this look, a lot of this ship be entertainment. You know what I'm saying. A lot of it is entertainment because we know we have to entertain you know

what I mean? We know what what what what they want to see what they don't want. Do you look at yourself as an entertainer? Nou kind of because you're you're kind of a social media you know, people think I think my I think my entertainment kicks in because the things I say in address it's borderline with the

negativity and that might lead to violence. So it's something for him to talk about, because I think that you are looked at, like for people who don't even know who the fuck you are as far as what you do in the industry. People just fough like there's people who are following you just because they saw some wild shit you might have seen exactly. They don't maybe respect to understand. They see a fight. I didn't want to have a fucking fight. I'm telling them the world. I

didn't want to have to fight. I didn't go to the burger stand that day to have to fight. It's a fight that just happened. I didn't record the fight. It's just somebody out here with a goddamn camera, right, recording something and then win. Right, But that thing got one hundred two hundred thousand, and it's not even the first time you've knocked someone out on camera shot. I mean, I didn't had a minion fight right right, right, because they saw it, then that's just what that is, right.

But that's what what the people won't that's what they crap. I don't. I was sitting watching chick film with my wife because that's my wife. Man put on some shit with them dudes jumping out the helicopter. This shit just got bombed. The drones came in. That's what I want to see, right, That's what excites me. And I think

that just what excites people. You know. That's why when you see a lot of these rappers, when they become other things and they start shining away from it, you don't hear jay z name unless he didn't drop the verse a crazy verse, or he didn't brought another company or got another billion dollar check. Straight up, you don't hear it nowhere? What is uh? What is you? In

your opinion, the biggest misconception about the music industry. I think the misconception of music industry is that the music industry is actually the streets and they don't understand that everybody from the streets is in the music industries and get away from the streets. So if it's a figment of your imagination of what you think it is, you know what I'm saying on some real shit, and I think that's what it is. Don't get it wrong. We

still got We still got some of these youngsters. I seen twenty one Savage on there with Gilly and Wallow Right. That's probably my favorite podcast. By the way, Gilly, I'm coming for your ass. I heard what you said. Gilly. We're gonna address that, like, stop ducking me. Set the date right. So Savage was like in y'all era, I think a lot of the rappers was bitch ass niggas right they did our era. A lot of these young

rappers really come from that, right. I think Gilly kind of correctly was like, well, the rapper wanted to be the street nigga. Now the street nigga wants to be the rapper. Yeah. Back when we were, you know, the little young rappers pull up. We out there with our money, our juria cars grow, They're like, yo, I want to be like big such and such. Right. Also back then, let's transparency, right, So back then it was easier to be a gangster even if you weren't, because there wasn't

social media to to pull your car exactly. You really had to be that because people heard about it from shit that really happened. Now you can go do a couple of videos pull up by a certain spots where the right thing being around, the right people off the right gangster. We're seeing it happen with six nine. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like I was, it was crazy shout out to uncle murder. I was listening, you know, I always go to this page every day, listen to

the wrap up things like that. They had a song with him six nine, uh fifty and young man was talking about earlier. The one was locked up Cassanova right, six nine going crazy, he blood and the everything's for you know, all the bullshit went down, right, But you see six now a fucking castanoa fucking uncle murder, Uncle murder won the realist nigga come out of Brooklyn facts right fifty Okay, shit, what you think that did to that? That kid's head right right right? And now he starts

to live this shit mentally. Now his little fans is not these other dudes fans. Oh yeah, he gangster. He was with such and such. That was a control video. It was a reason why they did that video. It's different demographics for murdering fifty in casting over. You know what I'm saying, And if you look on that shit got about thirty five forty million the streams versus other songs. They don't. That's the business of it, you know what

I'm saying. And this is out of time. Why I had a dislike for six nine when that video happened, well years that murdered my man. Yeah, game, game back here for murder, my man, murder ta you never got a call from me talking about why the fuck you doing this video? Because I understand that's some business going on on the fiftieth floor. Understood the business part of it. I knew once that was done and over with, murder

was going back to what he's going back to. Dude, was going back to where he was going back to what was the games? Thoughts on you doing the six ninety. He hadn't said nothing to me, which means I haven't. If I get to a point where he think I went too far, he'll tell you. He gonna come knock on my door. That's happened before. Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, Yeah, he don't give a fuck. He gonna look, he gonna I'm open the door, and he gonna woo woo, woo whoo.

I love you, and he's gonna walk away, get his car and go home. He don't buy his tongue with me one big what was it? And uh, maybe an example you could share where that happened, where game was like kind of kind of give you an ear full of some of some of the ship. You might have said, what the fuck was I was doing something on social media? Oh Nipsey, I was gonna say, was it? Had there been the Nipsey thing? You think? Right? It was Nipsey,

But he understood what I was saying. To be clear, what you said was Nipsey's not a legends, not a legend in music. In music, yeah, not in the streets. You know the streets he from were dictating and determine that. You know what I'm saying by the way that I think you were in the club and you had the DJ players music. I remember I was in Chicago. Yeah, I remember that he plays me up some West coast ship like you know, you know I did that. I stopped the whole club. We was in Chicago, and me

and Blue Face and did that. And just so you know, Blueface neighborhood and the neighborhood don't get along. You know, that could have caused a riff that I'm in the middle of a blue Face club hosting. I stopped the whole club and you know, just you know, a moment of silence for Nip and let's play his music. And then we went on by our night. But it got to a point to where Game definitely pulled up on me. What are you saying? He said, Bro, I understand everything

you said, You got your point across. Can you please just not saying no more? I tell you and I'm going on, And he wrote out, you know what I'm saying. So when that happened, I remember me and Head talking like, damns, there's some shit like we love you act right, but I'm like, there's just some shit like you could have kept to yourself. And I think you know and you right, But I think in my life, in my world, it's fake as all this shit is. I like to keep

it as real as I can. Like, even if you feel that way, right, and I'm not saying I share your opinion about then shit, but even if you feel that way, and not to say, you know, the way you laid out your argument about look ice cube, snoop dre all these, Yeah, why even put it out there? Well, they asked me a question, and I think the problem with me is I don't know how to run fair enough. I'm gonna keep it real. I think if a person asked me a question and I have a logical answer

and I say, well, what this answered them? People over there ain't gonna like I'm gonna say, well, why they're not gonna like it? Am I telling the lie? Am I am I disrespecting anybody? Or is it I shouldn't say it because of how they gonna they telling me. I just think, like anytime, there's no different than when I come into hold tanks back then in them days. Hey because they cause they cause, they cause, they cause,

they cause they cause where you're from. Nine deep Nigga is par role some people that would have said nowhere, I couldn't run. Whatever came with that, It came with that, And I think that's really what my problem is. And

I know how to fix the problem. I'm fixing the problem as far as because because I always tell my h my son the problem we were talking about our wives earlier, right, and I always make I always tell my right, my son's fifteen, and I always say, hey, look, sometimes I just want out you gotta just bite your lip. And in my household, in my household, I call it making a business decision with my wife. I'm gonna let you have that w I'm gonna just I'm gonna make

the business decision and not say nothing. Let you win. And you know, that's another thing that I gotta work on, because you know, I'd be like shit, you know, but women gotta do it to it us sometimes, you know, they can put up a greater argument, but depending on how we feeling about it and how we reacting to it,

they should know like let that go. But I think my way of fixing that problem is Indie Life, which is that mobile app is by ready to launch to where that's me giving back to the music community, the underground community which I cater to from the unsign and artists right to where now I don't really have to be a visible face of it. I let y'all utilize that. And I'm gonna go on with the next chapter of my life to I got rid of all the jeans

and the Georgians. I might keep a couple of joy is a word with a couple of suits, right, And I'm doing something different to where I'm not even in that conversation, you know what I'm saying like that, Like jay Z got a line on four four four. You know, I want to be on the floor where ain't no real niggas in the room. Really, that's what I'm That's that's what I'm targeted. That's a I think that should be everyone's aspirations, man, because if I'm there and you

ask me, I'm gonna say something. So I gotta i gotta remove myself from being so accessible to being in front of that can. Did you resolve any sort because I know that there was like speculation that you had gotten into a scuffle. Was it rolling loud with Nipsey's camp you know, watch this? Yeah right, I'm in Lancaster, California. Got into a fight with some skin He is right,

somebody had a camera. Let me ask you something, thinking wack had to fight a wack guy hit and hit the ground, or we was a lock up we had rolling loud, it wouldn't be no footage. I mean, obviously the fuck out of here. I'm not even trying to no this. I'm just saying, right, I'm not even trying to go down like whether that happened, this is just real shit, right right, But they hate me so much and they want to see me take a loss so bad that if a motherfucker say it, that's what happened. Right.

But even with that, you gotta understand, it's a million different stories out there. All he disrespect Dipsey. Uh, he say he wasn't from here, or he say he wasn't alleged he wasn't who he was to where he's from. Like you know, people then took it and twisted their own way. You know. I challenge anybody to find any footage that says anything different from me addressing music, because that was really all you were addressing. That's it, and that's obviously it's your opinion. It's not my place to

address where you're from. I'm not from where you're from. I haven't kept up with his stats over there. You know what I'm saying. We ain't. We ain't did business like that. We was acquainted, we talked to each other, we had each other's phone numbers. Uh, we did some business. I helped him with his in his early career. You know what I'm saying, Shit like lax tour case slay, I'm gonna want to put him on New York Radio. You know what I'm saying, You know, a bunch of

shit like that that tour. It's crazy because that tour was the first time I ever met nip was that tour he was in I was on Rady on Boise. A lot of people like to take credit for that. You know what I'm saying, I'm not gonna take the credit for that. A lot of people like to get Big U the credit for that, But ultimately, I'm gonna

be real. As cocky as Nipsey was, he had to want to be over there with Game, and as cocky and the strict as Game is with who's out with him on tour, he had to want that to happen. So you know that's that was a relationship, you know what I'm saying. That's why I know Game is real genuine about that. Game did some shit. He did some shit the homies do on't like. He took a Lamborghini rapping in blue, put fucking Nipsy down one side and violated everything pol roofs Dawn and put Crenshaw down the

other side. You know what I'm saying, ain't no power rules on Crenshaw. You know what I'm saying, but that's the way he was feeling about his homeboy's partner. I got a million calls about it. Man, he ain't supposed to a listen, bro. See that's the difference between street shit and the industry shit. Industry shit, some brotherhood shit. Also, like you know what I'm saying, I ain't gonna call

game Mayo game. Listen, man, take that off your car. Well, also like a game is also another example of someone who's evolved as a human and as a as a businessman, as a what he represents something that that has to be that and that's really not who he represents himself to be. That's where he's from, that's where he came from and all that. But I think people, it's a lot of people, bro. They stuck on the second chapter, and they book of life. Some of us is on

our tenth book, ninth chapter. So they stuck on the second chapter. This what is supposed to be blood or this what is supposed to be cut? They ain't. They ain't evolving to writing these chapters and closing that book out and going to the next book and evolving to who they gonna be as a man, as a father, as a businessman, as a home boy, as a comrade. You know what I mean. They haven't they they haven't

done that. So when we down here on our tenth book, ninth chapter, they still see it the way they seen on their first book, second chapter. Got a forty year old fifteen year old. That's a real shit, bigger of a nigga fifty five by default when you combine it too. But then if you average it out, there's a whole nother you know what I'm saying. So it's different and we see it different, and you can't argue with them people,

because I understand how you seeing it. I totally understand how you seeing it because at one point in time, when I was in my first book, second chapter, many many moons ago, I seen it that way too. But I also see it because I'm on my tenth book, ninth chapter that you still down there. That's some real shit, man. That's something that's a that's a bar uh talk about game. I just went over to his crib like last month.

He played me. I know he's got this like playlist that he's gonna put out, but he's also got this album. That album come. I don't know if this album is crazy. I heard some crazy we're going NFT and I got to see which way he want to go with it. You know, with me and Game do our minus. We sit down and we bounce ideas around. He listened to me, I'll listen to him. We sleep on it, and then we text and then from there that's just what it's

gonna be. And then I take the business and whatever we come up with, and then that's just what it is. You know what's crazy is like I was even talking to him just about like how somehow he's become underappreciated in the last like ten, Game is the most under man. I'll be seeing so many Top ten, Top five, Top this, and top that. Like, Bro, it's very few artists right now that can go on that studio. And I'll wrap that man with substance. You know what I'm saying. That

man still records. When you hear him record, it ain't a fucking solid and his disco is untouchable. It's crazy, you know what I mean. Game is still going and do foss six songs, Bro, night, no problem. I think you are the man that records three hundred songs album.

I think Game is kind of like uh an example of someone who just doesn't play the industry bullshit in it, like like you know, like there's you go to a fucking industry event and you'll go to five in a month and you'll see the same Like he don't play that. You don't care about the award awards. He ain't doing none of that ship because he know he understands the end. Like bro, that's a bunch of fake shit. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah yeah yeah. Man, fuck that nigga, and you know, man, let's get something to do some work and then you try to hit him then answer or the manager is calling, you know, with some bullshit. So he just like he deal with who he deal with, and like this is what I was telling him. I'm like, dude, like when it comes to people who make actual albums, and if we're look in a discography against discography, he's like top five all time, all day. Game don't put out whack albums.

Well no, it's not gonna you could go through the greatest of all time, and they got some black eyes on their discography, right, But like Game, when it's a game album, it's always front to back. You press player. Let that bitch ride, and I think really my main goal is over the next twelve months is to help the underground artists and definitely I need to uh my West Coast artists out here. You know, it's a lot of politics and a lot of shit that goes on and they don't have to reach to so I want

to position them so they can win. You know, our voices. You know, the South been in control. Yeah you know what I'm saying, And they strong down there, and they gonna continue to be thriving and still be strong. But you know, I think that the West could be just as strong and just ass thrive. And it's nothing wrong with you know what I mean every region we go to, it's that dominant strength going on. But it's only gonna

happen if we help these youngsters. You know a lot of people out here, in my position as a CEO, that that playing CEO, that got artist up on them, that got movements, they just don't know. So it's kind of on me to help get them there. I got an obligation to take Blue Face and get him, help get him to that next level of me and a superstar. You know, my up and coming artist True Car and Conyote and you know what I mean, And you know, to help them Flash Gotti become that. They got to

moving down there in Compton called Rose Krantz. We got Mari Ruger. We got Adobe from westside Parlo. Adobe is really standing in there on the business side. You got Mari Ruger. You got a tone, you know, a tone tone. Then they got another kid. He from I think he might be from forgive me for this. He might be from Saint Louis or some world toward woo. He might have seen him. He was getting it to Soldier Boy. He didn't one said the film Soldier Boy. That's some

crazy shit right there. So you got that going on over there. But these are movements that they stay in that pocket because the resources of them having access to these blogs and knowing how to do this and knowing how to do that, you know what I mean. They don't know, but they but it's there. The talent, the skill is there. If I put something in front of you and you interview this person or you listen to that music in your studio over there, you're like, Yo,

this dude, dope, and where you been. Yeah, I've been over there grinding like five years damn no shit. Why do you think that is though, because like everyone has to you know, they don't want to let nobody in the people that's in. But if you really think about like where the music industry exists now, it's here like it used to be. You can move to New York and make it. You can move, but it's you got to think about it. Bro. When the Powers to Be had the voice they was letting people in game, then

they did the passing of the torch. Remember it was Kendrick. Yeah, all that to Kendred right, this shit then went to a digital world, a total different world to where I got more of a voice now in this world than people I consider to be my legends, because that ain't they world, and that ain't they laying and you're playing that world exactly. So you know, so now it's a

lot of the obligation is on me. So you know, I got other things that I'm moving off to, moving on to, but I'm not gonna just leave them high and drama. Make sure I leave some here a platform here to where it's gonna work for them and help them get to where they go to and expedited a little faster, you know, what I mean, you have a great relationship with p at QC. That's another dude that I watch. He has motivated me because he helps them

youngsters out that gutter him Gucci Maine. I watched them and they made me tell myself, Yo, I need this that my game up because they really really helped them youngsters and get them a platform. And I've been to QC studios. I don't know none of these dudes. They just up and coming dudes, you know what I'm saying. But they round you know, his big artists so they can see how it going, you know what I mean,

And he helping them get funny and position them. You know, look, look what the evolution of little Baby, Yeah, it's crazy, you know what I'm saying. He didn't went from from the little dude that come to shoot dice with the artists at the studio to in the studio to being one of the hottest in the studio to now he got artists as hot that's under him in the studio to where he got his own label situation. And you know, he blewprinted off of what he's seen Pete do with him,

and Pete supporting him, and they supporting each other. So you know, he's he's really one of the ones that, yeah, I think I look at like what he's doing, and like, look at what YO got. He's doing Birdman too, you know bird Man of course, you know burd with certain guys that I see what they doing to where I feel like I got an obligation to step to the plate.

What about you know, I know you and top got a great relationship obviously, you know, TD being the I guess, kind of the closest thing we've had to death Row Sin's Death Row. Yeah, definitely, Top Dogs, definitely one of my mentors, one of my g homies. I don't say that about everybody. He's definitely somebody that one of them in a buying or I need to make a decision or I'm kind of at odds about which way I should go with something somebody I called because I definitely

respect his opinion. And you see the the leadership, you know, and uh, the class he showed with Kendrick just being Kendrick's last album. You know what I'm saying. You know, if you're paying attention, he's just then woke up and got back on the gas, you know what I mean. He got Ravon, Rayvon Dope beast him and Kendrick and Top and Jay Rock and Top came to the studio with True Car and gave me a bank. Rayvon's a beast man. We had him on the show. We had

so Rayvaon lived in Arizona for little bit. Okay, so one of my Arizona homies has been managing forever. So ray Vn came on me in head show like three or four years ago. Good dude, good dude. He's a beast, funny as hell too. Hilario does his hilarious little his diary. Yeah he's hillariy. Yeah. But see, and to artists, pay attention to ray Vin because not only is he a beast, and I want to say, nephew from Long Beat, He's from Long Beach. Here he from Long Beast, right, And

I can't. I don't know if he gang bangs or not because time I seen, we don't know, no conversation. But he also is not scared to show his sense of humor and be himself. You know what I'm saying. In that sense of humors was translating to tik tok, which is growing his fan base. And then when you listen to his music. It's real, It's authentic. Street is real. So you know some people is too gangster for this ship today. I tell you, if you're too gangster, I

can't do nothing for you. You're too gangster to have a sense of humor is something the kids want to talk about a lot, have about it. TikTok two. I can't. I can't do nothing with you because I can't do those things right right right, Yeah, you can't be funny and no. I can take your I can take your product, and I can put it in places that you can't,

but you got to create the product. I really do think like ray Von is like kind of an evolution to Kendrick, right, because like Kendrick is obviously to the point I always say, there's like, well so listen, listen, listen, like it's only one game, there's only one Kendrick. No, But what I was gonna say was that I think ray vn is talented enough to one day we'll be sitting here saying there's only one. That's what I was gonna say. Like, if you think of Kendrick, right, Kendrick

is in my opinion top five all time. That's my personal opinion, my personal opinion. Right, I always tell people, if you got Bigger in your top five, and he only put out two albums, how the fuck don't you got Kendrick in your top You know? The first time I heard Kendrick when where was it? New York? Top Dog and New came out there. They were just moving around to introduce them. The case like Shaq and my God,

money Mark was doing this thing in Long Island. Everybody was there, bun Bee all eybody was there performing and ship like that, and fucking Patpoos had got up there. Jay Rock went Pat Pools get up there and does that? Ends his set with alphabetical slaughtering right, classic great mixtape, Classic Kendrick At the time, Who is motherfucking Kate Haydoe sitting over there? The shy guy? You know, he looking at me and I'm looking at him. I'm looking at Top.

I'm like Top. He's like yeah, he like, you want to go up there after that? He's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you shure you want to go up there after that? Pat Pools in New York, right, he like yeah yeah, yeah yeah right, and he went up there, and you know, you get up there, get somebody the mike. You kind of fade to the left, you talking, and right when

he started going, I'm like, what the fuck? I look at Top, I say Top, that's the one that the first time I heard Kendrick get out was when he came behind Pat Pools in New York and Pool's gonna make it hard for you. He'll make it hard for anybody, so especially I'm assuming this was like six somewhere like that. This is like Peaks, Pat Poo's running the mixtapepe Ship running all that just old, you know what I'm saying.

And it was then, So that was my first bar of Yeah, I just think Kendrick like his lyrical proudness and like, you know, Kendrick is on a level kind of where he calls at right where like they don't need to be on TikTok thing, No, they're omn the present. They're on the present. But I think Ray Vaughan has

the opportunity to be the like lyrical person. That's kind of you know when we look when we think of the young like generation, right, I think you can think of cord A, You can think of a few guys who are kind of who can get down with the bars right, But I think ray Von has an opportunity. I got that edgy ship to him, like he like, you know, like our true Car got that edgy ship to him. You know you need that pain Raven's got

the Raven played the song. I don't know if it's ever gonna come out, but he played a song that like made me tear up in the studio because it was about when he lost his baby mom and it was crazy and I'm like, man, he's got this. But then he also has the social media ship on lock because he's fucking hilarious. He's funniest man. That damn dear Diary shit he does. Bro that ship called me off gard one day. I didn't know what he was doing.

I spent all my food. I'm like, what the fuck is some of your Mama boo booed on myself, like you know what I mean. But but he has a sense of humor. Man, shout out to Rayven. He gonna be some grapscot one for sure. TD gonna continue to look at look at doing numbers whole so coming again. I've seen something about something popped up on scissor, you know what I mean? Jay Rock still over there doing you know what I mean? Uh Q Schoolboy Q and the other the other nephew from from Carson. He's a

beep to appstepisode on right. He goes in the studio lights, puts his arms behind his back and goals, Aien, would you ever do a podcast yourself? Way? They've been reaching for me to do it, academics that uh he hinted around, maybe I do so with him. My guys at Paradigm Fred Andrew Ruff that they've been in conversations with with a few platforms. So yeah, I definitely would consider it. I wouldn't I wouldn't mind it'd be another platform, but

I would like want to. I would want to. I would want to put the attention on those people that they can't see. You know what I'm saying, you know what I mean, like share your platform with some people people who really benefit off it. Drake was once one of those guys that people couldn't see. You know, you never know, you know it's out there. It's a lot of them out there. So I would definitely want to put my attention on on nose if I did my podcast, we could mix in the common ship, but I would

want to be that gateway to the underground artist. You know what I mean, I mean the underground producers, you know, the management, those CEOs up and coming to put some light on them. You talked about how when you first signed Blueface, you helped get his credit together, help them get the house. Let's say you signed somebody today and they got a five hundred credit score. What is your like, what do you how do you help them get their

shit together? Because I think that this is one of the more under appreciated things about outside the music in the streets. You know, I'm a businessman, yes, so you know, shout out to my man, Travis Wilson. That's to see what my success try for the stars follow him on Instagram. I'm definitely gonna have them pull their profile and I'll have my team sit down and we're gonna look at everything they have going on. And these are costs and

expenses that I absorbed. I don't charge its back to them, you know what I mean, And we're gonna look at what's going on with them. We're gonna get them right, you know what I mean. A lot of these they come and they got fucking repolls and lates. They don't know they just get the call them out. You know, I paid when I paid, so I definitely want to get them right with that. Yeah, you know, you can't be running around here with no medical and shit. You

know what I'm saying. You got your dinner work done? You need to do that. A lot of your artists, for real, y'all got ten thousand dollars of clothes on two hundred thousand dollars a jury. You know, listen, I know you got used to looking at yourself like that, you know, bro, going to the dinners, spend put your teeth together, get and get your teeth together. Man, It's just real shit. Man, y'all need to definitely do that.

And make sure that your kids don't come up the way you come up because you used to seeing yourself like that, and make sure you keep them right and keep them together, you know what I mean. So you know it's just about you know, I want them to be a reflection to me and then grow to become better than me. That's fair, you know what I mean. You know, Segue and how you you know, we were just talking about how your daughter, you know, unfortunately she

tore Achilles. You just tore Achilles. But you always you know, you're a great wha text, I'm like you all make Cais with you. You're a great father man, like you know, whether your daughter has a cheerleading competition in Vegas, you're there. You always say like, you know, I want my daughter like I want my children to not follow in my footsteps, my son to be better than me. Like me and my son. Kind of we hit a rough patch couple

months ago, you know what I mean. But he's right there at that stage where he's seeing it his way and I'm seeing the way. Twenty just turned twenty seven, right, But you know he's been man in the house all this time because I'm not there half the time. Me and my wife here there they're whatever, right, But you know, we hit a rough pasture where you know, he did something that I respected he did. I came home one day and he was gone. You know what I'm saying.

He was gone. But at this on the flip side, what I'm gonna do make him come home? Man grown? Right? You know I didne gave him everything I can give him. When I'm still here to give me some more. He know I'm here if he slipping and follow him and catch him and I got him. But you know, just the fact that he stepped out there, let me know, okay, you know, he manning up. You know what I'm saying, He's manning up. Do you How do your kids feel

about your public persona? They really don't say nothing to me about it, cause you know, me, my kids growing up around me, I never heard who I was. They don't. Yeah, they you know, they'll come tell me certain things, and sometimes they'll know when I did something because they because it's on the internet, their phone goes crazy. People, you know, I mean, people want to answer this, but you know, they don't really say too and they don't really pay

no attention because they watched me. People be thinking I'm sering half the time when I'm doing it, I'm laughing. They knowing I'm doing something because I'm laughing while I'm doing it. And then the world just takes it very, very serious, which answers my question to where the perception of the industry. Right, people don't know what's real and

what's fate that's real. That's crazy because like you had said earlier, like six or nine, kind of his mission is to expose quote unquote the streets, right that's his mission and what shouldn't be because if you know that they not coming for you and you ain't got the people with you, you should just take that as an

opportunity to just live your life. Well, I was gonna say, like, how much of what he's saying is true is in terms of the quote unquote streets kind of and the industry, Like you said, right that the perception is that they're both the same when they're not. Right. No, it definitely not so. Isn't what he's trying to do kind of exposing what you're saying is the biggest misconception is definitely it's not just listen, man, I don't advise any of

the youth to get a life to the streets. The first chance and first opportunity you have to get out of the streets to get out of together. Whether it's going to college, whether it's a foreign exchange program in another country, whether you go to the military or the police academy, I'm telling you take that route, take that lane.

I need more of our youth that's crips and blood orientated uncles, brothers that got eight nine generations of this shit to go to the police academy, and we still complaining about how they doing us when they pull us over. I want somebody to pull me over that understands where I come from. That's not nervous, and that's not nervous and jittery and got their lunch money took. You know, the only way we're gonna turn it around is to put some of us in there. I think that you

can't take the house without getting in the house. How change it if you're not that's what we gotta do. I don't. I haven't. I haven't made the decision of being part of the decision making and over twenty five years of somebody getting put on my neighborhood and then my homework kids just gang bang that I run across. I don't even allow them to call me big homie because I don't want to have no gang association of tides with you like that, because that ain't what I

want for you. If if you had it, if I had it our way, it wouldn't be nobody else initiated from this day forward, and hopefully ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, it'll all phase out and we just be one as a people. Yeah, man, I just don't like you because I don't like you, not because of what somebody did ten years ago. That's from the same place for from. I mean, that's really what Paige, I'm mom,

if you really want to know. Yeah, man, I think that's I mean, that's that's hopefully that rubs off on a lot of this generation. I'm not gonna denounce that I'm a thug and I come from that gangster shit and I come from it. I ain't gonna never denounce that because I ain't ashamed, and I think that's what made me who I am today to be able to have these type of conversations that had the top of

influence that I have on some of these youngsters. I don't denounce it, but I'm not gonna be one to sit here and be a hypocrite and say that's the way to go because some of us didn't make it out. Yeah, that's real, man, that's real. I think keeping it one hundred on a one hundred episode on one hundred episod So, So, what is the latest with Blue Face fighting six ' nine? Is it? For sure? They both agreed to it. It's probably gonna be something that happens in the Middle East.

It just get the funds up because Triller for that to happen. N You know, it's a lot of my investors in Saudi and Bahrain and Qatar that's coming to the table with it, because you know, that's gonna be a big, big bag, real real big bag. Blue Face is probably gonna mop him up for sure. I mean, listen, I got all faith that Blue Face is gonna win

the fight. I saw blue Face can like has his hands, his face, can fight, he can fighting, can box, and he left learned, you know, a valuable lesson when it comes to training all little inside jokes up and I know that he won't do a violate again. You know what, I would you ever step in the ring as a celebrity celebrity fight definitely on you know, if the bag is right, you definitely get My money is on you.

I'm not gonna box, We're gonna lock up. It's gonna I'm gonna try to get it out the way quick. I've never been a box I've been a brawler, you know what I mean. So that's what that is. You know, I'm gonna call on Mike to train me. My partner, Mike Tyson. You know what I'm saying, I definitely might gonna be my trainer. What what is Mike Tyson like? Uh yeah, real, real, don't know who he is? Mike has no not to say. He don't know who he is as a person. He doesn't understand who he is

to the world. Don't give a fuck about that all that famous Mike Yo wagon. Let's go to the store. He's getting the car with Mike Tyson. Yeah, walk to the to the store. You know, I'm cool as hell, laid back down the earth and he's gonna speak his mind. Has he convinced you to try any psychedelics? Whack? Because you know he's a psychedelical You know, I don't he know everybody, I don't do nothing, So no, I know you don't do nothing, But psychedelics are different with that.

I know nobody wants to see me do anything. I think I don't want to see you. What is mushrooms? Oh? Hell no, I think you could cut that's out. You wouldn't You wouldn't do a shroom trip with Mike tysaid? No, I'm not doing man, what I think I'll die? No, you won't die. Yeah. Reborn kids do not listen to this type of conversation. This is pure you know what. And I want to touch on this too, man like, because we got a situation going on in our streets

with the drugs. Man. Rest in peace to Michael K. Williams, A good dude, man good. I was just I just got through watching Chalky white Boardwalk Empire, one of his best characters. But the kids, y'all need to understand. I don't know if y'all know what Russian roulette is. Russian roulette when they take a revolver, they put one bullet in there and they spend the chamber and they clicked the gun, and if that bullet lies in the wrong spot,

you're dead. Right, these days, these people that are manufacturing these drugs are lacing these drugs with this fat and right. And the people that you are buying these drugs from, they don't know if they laced it not. And they tell you I got the pure ship, but they don't know playing Russian roulette with your life taking these pills

to I strongly advise you guys to stop. You take it, you go to sleep, you don't wake up period period, right, And I really strongly advise you guys to look it to yourself to ask yourself, is this drug, this pill whatever it may be worth the risk of you possibly not waking up. I think if you look at the legends we've lost in the last three or four years,

I mean, there was a comedian that passed away. There was like and I gotta correct myself because I was real ignorant to what this this fatanoh was And I think I could be wrong. I think this might be what killed mac miller. It right, and when mac millan died, I made a statement like, yo, that's on him that being know what he was doing taking all these drugs he overdosed. I was done the impression that dude was just abusing, just doing a bunch. Now I think he

took the wrong ship, the wrong fucking drugs. So you know, I want to you know, my apologies, man, you know what I mean, because I really I was really ignorant to what that nod was. I didn't know, you know, like that's that's not some household ship in the street. Did you see the video of the cop who took a whiff of it on a stop and they almost died on the side of the street. He was in San Diego. This is serious, bro. That's why I tell my kids, you don't accept the talent all. It's the

cheapest ship, right and stretches it like stretches. Imagine if you have a Q coke and you're a drug dealer on the times five, you can stretch your times five and crazy shit. But the problem is when you kill how many people are gonna I'm not gonna lie, man, listen to our rappers out here that's influencing the kids. A lot of it gonna start with y'all, man, because

y'all are glorifying it. And I know y'all not glorifying using drugs that have fetanol, but the fact that this is how they sneak it in on us, you know what I mean. You know, maybe y'all need to be a little more educational about it. I can't tell y'all what to do, what to say, how to live y'all life. But we all got little brothers, you know what I mean, We all got family, you know what I mean? Where maybe we may want to educate them to where. Yeah, I take zanni of this that I you know, this

ship is getting bad. You may want to eliminate, you know what I mean? Doing this because of what's going on with it, you know what I mean, you know, just you know, just my reach to all you rappers that yeah, I just saw, uh you know, I was I was watching an episode of Joe Rogan, Uh that just came out, and he was talking about Michael K. Williams who died. And obviously there was some comedians in a house in Venice where I'm still a little up

in there because I'm here in cocaine. I'm hearing hair Ron. I don't know, I'm hearing this cocaine right as far as like the day before the comedians, the comedians in Venice ship right doing. I mean, look, at the end of the day, I've never done cocaine. I'm the only drugs I've ever done. But you know how it is, you've been in a situation where everyone's passing around to play the coke. I've witnessed that. I've never participated in it. But ship lakes with everybody who hits it is on

the ground, it's gone. But Joe Rogan was saying, like the what what probably is the like uneasy truth that people aren't gonna want to like admit to as far as politicians is like you gotta legalize all drugs so the product at least is controlled because people are gonna do drugs either way, right Fededanols. Hey, look, they catch you with that ship, they give me you they putting you in under the fucking prison. Catch you with that fal That ship is like what PCP was on steroids.

They catch it with that, you out of here? Yeah, man, And and it's crazy because there's no way to there's no quality control in the drugs, in drugs anymore. What's the quality control? I don't know because even that's what I'm saying. All I know is it ship. It ain't for us, it ain't for my people, nobody's people, it ain't for our youth, man. And we really need to start educating these kids on what ftanol is and what it would do to you if they happened to be it,

because I don't think they know. I didn't know at one point in time. Right. Yeah, it is Russian. It's literally Russian Russian. Let bro, if you get it, it's over. So yeah, it's crazy, man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So we definitely to do that. Are here you back at radio? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're talking about we launched, you know, it launched the syndicated show back back in

real ninety two three. It's been a real ninety two three doing this thing, you know, seeing the podcast, bro, I gotta let go and then back on the station said seven months where they do that at Oh did you let get let go what you ventured off to do? Right? You went back to radio with that what you was doing, you know what I mean? So now it ain't like you had to shut this down. This is part of that.

The way I looked at what happened with me was I had already had the thought in my mind to leave terrestrial radio and launch my own syndicated show, because I see that that's where the business is heading. Right. So when everything happened, you know, for people who don't know, I got to let go in December for budget cuts, right, I heeart laid off like two thousand people or something. Actually, so I got let laid off, but I didn't. I wasn't emotional about it. I was like, hey, thank you

Doc for the look. Thank you. Ao kept my relation. I'm like, look, I told he Ao, I said, look, you know I'm launching this radio show, and you know, I got put on in Vegas at first at AO station in Vegas and then you know, just put my head down and got to it, and an opportunity presented itself. You've always been a real one, you know, and it got my attention being a real one. So you know it ain't gonna stop you bro, Like I'm gonna be really you know your best is yet to come. Yeah, man,

I feel that. I mean, I value our relationship because I know it's gonna come a day while I'm walking in somewhere and it's going to the decision gonna be up to Bootleg Care And I'm a value that I got fifteen twenty twenty five years and with this man, you know what I mean. So it's like, you know, that's how I build my relationships with people. So you know, I see it in you. You understand this business. You're

taking your hits in this business. I was back for this business and I know you still reaching in this business. So you know the best for you you have to come. Man. I say, yeah, I would just tell everyone, man, bet on yourself, because literally that's all I did. I just went all in on me. I said, I'm gona launch a radio show and we launched with kkf R as our first affiliate in Phoenix. And now you know we're on seven stations, probably about to be like fifteen real soon.

Did my YouTube shit? Let y'all know, my little brother, ray J, my business partner, is still working. He loves to get back to the community. Ray J. Ray J's election has this safe sex campaign going on. He got his new his new line of ratronics. No, he got new condoms coming out. There's gonna be ray J condoms. You got condoms, they better be magnumized because we've seen the video. That man is packed out of it. I don't know nothing about that. You didn't watch them sex tape. Listen,

you didn't see the sex tape. All I know is this is Kanye high lobing me. Bro. We got part two on the laptop. Ain't never been seen. We'd love for you to have it. It'd be a great personal private n ft. Wait wait wait, wait wait, So there's another ray J kimk sex tape that's that we haven't seen. Yeah, that was more graphic and better than the first of one.

Is it ever gonna see the light of day? I mean, I wouldn't meet personally I would never give it to anybody but Kanye, because that's he's some mother, his children. It's a lot of people that didn't try to reach for that for a price tag. Obviously Kanye could buy it from you, or would you just give it to him? And say what I probably would because it's Kanye. I probably would give it to Kanye. Kanye, it's ray J. In the same mind state as you, because that was

my little brother. You know, he may we might wake up one day and Ray is like, fuck it, nah no, because you know com force last ya remember Ray's father. Now understand what I'm saying. So and ray J really and the boss is you know, he's a great He's a great guy. So you know that's I think we would probably gift that to him. You don't know what I'm saying. If ever that day was to come, we was just sat out and we would gift that to him. He got mother, he got children. By that one, you've

seen the part two. We've been in our life ten twelve, so you've seen the unreleased Wow, and it was better than the first one, longer all that Wow. Hey, Well listen, uh Kanye tapping with waq one hund yeah, we gift that to him. Well, you know that just that's for him. You know what I mean. We can't put that out there in the world like that. We disrespectful. In worst case scenario, Kanye becomes the president in like eight years and you want to hit like a billion dollar lick.

I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You know, you know what's bigger than Kanye and Kim what those children? I understand the Internet. That is true. Man, got kids not gonna happen, not on my watch. Hey man, that's what makes you different. Whack You know what I'm saying. So Whack one hundred, Episode one hundred of the bluele had podcasts West up ending with a fucking big just a huge revelation. So let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Shout out to all my family, my loved ones, everybody

out there that supported me. Incredible diapers coming man, Steve Marconnell. Fifteen wait is it? Fifteen hours of soaking up the crazy man. Incredible diapers with the people. They're like, yo, my babies, by kids wake it up at night they dry. Wow, went a lot of money. I really want shout out to American gangs to American gangs inspired me to do what I did because I went Frank Lucas and went to the source like I went to China. Me and my pipe was in the pick up. My business partner,

Travis Wilson. We was in the pick up and going straight to where they make the diapers yep out the middle, and we went out there right there. They witnessed it, you know what I mean? It was crazy, so yo, they could have made a left and or right my ass with another kid. You would never know. There is man Whack one hundred, Episode one hundred, The Bullet Hit Podcasts, and I'm gonna leak something out. Instagram been tripping, y'all. Stay tuned on the lookout for insti Rated coming soon.

Insta what insti rated, Well, they took your ig down for a bid take it every two weeks with something because I saw your your Instagram after the sixth nine shiit was just gone. And then it came back and there was this this profile that had like eighteen thousand followers. If one en youre me that wasn't even that ain't me whacked one hundred officials not missed a fake page. They'd be getting people to send them money for consulting

fees and all that do not send them nothing. But you know, it's getting to a point to watch what they do with Bootsy and a few other artists is like, you know, I got a nice little tech team. Shout out to my man saved my man say, I'm and Brave Energy drink. We didn't put our tech team together, and we didn't we about about two million lines of cold in so you might you can be watch your own social platform definitely where indie life is coming and

instagrated is coming. There. It is my censor there. It is whack on there, it is leading nothing, post whatever you want. You know what I'm saying, get your money, Boom West Up