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On the Bobbycast, Eddie and I talk about the biggest selling music catalogs of all time, and my wife makes an appearance and hey, it's when I try to teach her a history lesson. But you'll hear that on this week's episode in the Vets Office, it's all about a topic that most people don't want to talk about, the sad part about having a pet. She has on doctor Mary as well, who's the co founder of Lap of Love. So let's get started there with this clip from in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
You're listening to in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horschak.
Today.
I was prior to our interview giving our listeners a little bit of a heads up that these are some heavier tipics to discuss, but important ones, and everybody as a pet owner, at some point will we'll be dealing with them. So I think it's really important that we are able to talk openly about it.
Right.
I know we're such a death adverse society in general, even in human death right and so it's it's not a topic that people want to talk about, but yet they need to talk about it, and then they usually feel better after talking about it, So they just at least know their options, we know what to expect and then can sit back and still enjoy life.
Yeah.
Absolutely, And I know I mentioned I just mentioned lap of Love and that you are a co founder and before we dive into all the things, I actually used Lap of Love for one of my dogs previously, and I just want to let you know it was such a great experience. And I know at home usin Asia is not for everyone, but I think it's a great option to have, and I can't say how in a terrible situation, how great of an experience I had.
Oh, thank you for saying that.
It is.
Yeah, it's you know, it's a personal choice of where and who's around and things like that. And you know, I do feel that they're most comfortable in their home and we don't have to you know, do a final ride in the car or anything like that. But also we're a little bit more comfortable in the home and if we want to, you know, grieve in our own way, we can without having to worry about who's seeing us
or anything like that. So, but like you said, not everybody wants that, and not everybody can have that because sometimes we're at the emergency clinic or something like that and it's it's unfortunate. So we're very blessed to have such a rewarding career and or niche in the veterinary space, and we love making that last final moment just a bit better.
Yeah, I agree. One thing I wanted to talk about is I think I'm sure, I'm sure you'll relate to this that as veterinarians, a lot of times people think we are playing with kittens and puppies and running around it's rainbows and butterflies, But a huge portion of our job is taking care of senior patients and ensuring that
they're healthy overall and they're comfortable. And so I think a really a big part of our job, and I'll be interested to hear you expand on it is focusing on our senior pets and then also recognizing that age is not necessarily a disease, although it can certainly come with its challenges.
Yeah, I always say age is and a disease, but it does bring disease, and our bodies do start to age and have you know, it may not be a failure of an organ or something like that. But we don't have the same reparative processes. We don't have the same energy level, the ability to fight off infections, and so it's just it's just a fact of life, even for our humans. But did you know that forty four percent of pets our senior are senior or more so.
I love double digits, so the more double digits they have, the better, like a teenager if you will.
But forty four percent or over seven years old. And that's massive.
And so to your point, everybody thinks we're playing when puppies or kittens, but that's that's actually only about twelve percent of the population as a puppy or kitten because eventually obviously they go to two, three, four years old.
But the majority is actually.
Seniors, right, And I think that a really important part for owners listening is bringing your pets in once they hit senior hood. I think bringing them in twice year is really important, just that way we can lay our hands on them. We're running lab work on an annual basis, we can we can see how they're doing. We have a good baseline, and then if something does come up, we can be on top of it and focusing on that preventative care I think can make a huge difference.
Yeah, And you know, I was just this morning, I was somewhere and this gentleman says, oh, I have a twelve year old boxer.
And this was just I wasn't in a clinic, Randy, so this is just random.
And and he's like, oh, you know, her hips are really bad, and so it's a very common thing all here as well.
She's just she's getting old and what are we gonna do?
And I'm like, and I wanted, to, of course go into my whole talk and conversation, but I didn't have time.
So what really makes me sad?
And so many people think that doing euthanasias is what makes me sad. I do get sad, but that's not what makes me sad is But what does is that so many older pets have not been to their doctor. And it is about forty nine percent of dogs and cats are not seen by their veterinarian the last year of life. So let's just round that up to fifty percent because it's a lot easier to talk. Half the pets that we euthanize in the United States have not
been to their doctor. The year before they pass, and that's where a lot of stuff happens where we can help manage, and whether it's pain relief or anxiety relief or just products and setting, you know, setting up their house. This gentleman with this boxer, he's like, oh, she just she can't get a grip on the floor and she skates all over.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, that's so easy to fix. And he just doesn't know. So I would love twice a year's ideal. We got to get him in.
Yeah, they're not even coming in at all, so how do we get him in?
Yeah?
And I think it's like reframing our mindset as owners, where oh, they're just old. Isn't really the mindset that we want to have because there are so many things that we can be doing to make their life better.
Correct.
You know, it's interesting, like do we say that about ourselves when we're when we're going to be sixty seventies right, like and something hurts or we can't see as well, are we just going to say I'm just old?
So I'm not going to go like we don't. I don't think we say that to ourselves.
And I mean, listen, I'm in my I'm in my early fifties, and I feel like there's a doctor's appointment on my calendar all the time, Like there's just I have to go to the dermatologists tomorrow, and you know, my knees are hurting, so there's I feel like I'm always somewhere in a doctor's office. But we don't say that in our to ourselves. So why would we say the same thing for our pets?
Right, And I think a huge portion of it is they can't talk, so we really have to advocate for them. And even if you think your pet is perfectly healthy, they still need to go in for their checkup because we can. We are trained as terinarians to see these issues and help make your life and their life better.
Yeah. And you know a lot of people will say, oh, pets hide their pain so we don't see it.
But I kind of think they just don't complain. I agree, like we.
Actually And also people have goggles on it they can't see things, and I'm sorry, if your pet is slowing down, that's a sign of pain probably, right, So they actually are showing you. We just don't know how to notice it. Oh you know what, my kitty cat. She's not grooming herself anymore, she's just getting old. No, she hurts, therefore she can't room herself. Or maybe she's got oral ulcers and she can't say thing, and what is she going to do?
Complaint?
Like, they don't complain, so they actually aren't hiding signs of pic they're showing you. You're just looking for a like a complaint, which we don't do, right, I mean, now with that being said, they meant so in acute injury, you'll hear them complain because they howl and cry and all that stuff. But chronic long term illness like usually they just kind of suck it up.
But it doesn't mean they should.
Do.
You want to take a shot at the the number one artist before we get to number one, so the Bob Dylan, the mechanical recordings or number eleven overall, so it's publishing went for that amount, but number eleven his mechanical.
Recordings and his voice of one hundred and fifty million. Wow. And I'll roll down some of theys before we get to one.
Motley Crue at twelve one point fifty million, all our million interesting Chili Peppers at thirteen one hundred and forty million.
That's a lot of songs. Chili Peppers are awesome, a lot of great songs.
And the story about the Chili Peppers can Now you're getting into things I cared about because I consume them early on, so I wanted to learn more. Is that their lead singer couldn't really sing when they started, Anthony Ketis, which is why they did a lot of He had to learn how to sing really, so was not a good singer at all. Didn't even try to fake it
like it was a bad singer. Wow, But that's one of those stories of somebody not having a skill, so he has to develop something else that makes them stand out so much that it becomes so original. And his singing voice it developed, and it all started kind of with Under the Bridge, right kind of because that that was their big Yeah, that was a hit that kind
of got them hit, yes, like mainstream success pop radio. Yeah, but like that whole Blood Sugar Sex Magic album, I Love the Children, Like that's our age.
I got that from like random health or like you know, you're.
I think I you know what I think I did too, Shakira Imagine Dragon.
It's both at one hundred million.
Wow.
Stevie Nicks thought it'd be.
More, but I guess she would probably only own a part of Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac, The Beach Boys at seventeen wow.
Gosh, that's low zz.
Top at eighteen ninety million, James Brown Estate nineteen ninety million, A Tina Turner at number twenty. She told her catalog in twenty twenty one for fifty million dollars.
Let me ask you this, when do people decide to sell their catalog?
Like MI can just tell you have friends that have done it, and mostly it's if somebody makes them a great offer when they're not listing it. One of my friends sold theirs for like seven million bucks pretty recently didn't have their catalog listed to sell, but I think there was a grab. It was a time when it was pretty hot to try to grab catalogs. I have a songwriter friend who sold theirs for about ten wow, and he has like forty number one.
So do you start looking at like, Okay, this is how much I make off my catalog my own in it.
Or it's also like if I sell it, what can I make if the money sits in this kind of account and just draws interest versus so you're doing that math too, and you're having to have a like a specialist come in and guess with you. And sometimes too it's just like i'd like the lump su sure, I'd like it now to buy stuff. I mean, sometimes it's just that elementary as well.
But then once you sell it, you don't.
Own it anymore.
Like they can put in a commercial, they can do anything, and it's that's crazy. Now you can put stipulations in a contract that says you can't use it for porn or stuff like that, but then it may make it less valuable to somebody buying it. Yeah, but mostly you sell it wow, and it's not used to say say but I mean, everyone will always think it's still yours anyway, and it's.
Kind of bye bye anyway.
Like once you release it, it just kind of exists everywhere and if someone wanted to use it, they would. You'd make your thousands of dollars each time. But lucrative obviously if you have hits.
Yeah, and like Al Dean.
Sold his catalog, I don't know, I'm gonna guess around twenty million and when I remember, but he doesn't write a lot of songs.
He just sings them.
So he told his mechanicals, you know his voice, his voice, Yeah, the number one. You wanna take a shot at it? The Beatles, I don't think they They did sell their kelog, but it was a long time ago, Michael Jacksonael.
Jackson, right, And I think then Apple bought it back.
But I don't know that it's been recent where it was an elevated price.
Right Ooh, okay, so they're not number one, Michael Jackson number.
One, Yeah, seven hundred and fifty million. I wonder what the Beatles before we get to Jackson's the Beatles music catalog price. Oh gosh, it's been valued, but it hasn't been sold. It's valued now at one billion.
One billion dollars. And who owns it?
Seven years after Michael Jackson died, Sony ATV agreed to pay and they're not for sure, but they only own a part of the steak. And I think Paul McCarney bought some of it. He tried, he tried to buy something. He tried to buy it from Michael Jackson.
Yeah, I think I think it's the store.
Worry Michael Jackson outbid him for it. I think Michael Jackson told him about it and then.
Ended up outbidding him for it.
Wow, but the whole catalog has not been sold to one person, which is why is not on the list. But for half of the catalog, Sony ATV agreed to pay seven hundred and fifty million dollars, it's worth an excess of over a billion dollars.
Oh yeah, all together, and that'll continue to make money for years and years and years.
Michael Jackson complete catalog, seven hundred fifty million bucksy Well.
Cass Up Road, Little food for your son life. Oh it's pretty, but hey, it's pretty beautiful thing beautiful for that for a little more exciting, said he. You're kicking it with full thing with Amy Brown.
Even if you don't have ADHD, you'll likely relate to at least a few of these. And I'm gonna go through Alex's list and then share my own thoughts around the lie. Now, the first lie is I'll take a screenshot and look at it later. Here's the deal. We're not gonna look at it later. I checked my phone before I sat down to record, and I have six thousand, five hundred and twenty eight screenshots in my phone. I
picked some at random to share with you. That way, they aren't just wasted screenshots just sitting in my phone for no reason. On June third of last year, I have a screenshot. It's a picture of a frog, and it says a female frogs fake their own death to a void, mating with males they don't like. Now, I'm pretty sure I took that screenshot for fun Fact Friday on the Bobby Bone Show, so it probably didn't totally
go to waste. But I have a lot of fun fact screenshots throughout my phone that I know I have forgotten about and not gone back to for the show. On November third of last year, I took a screenshot of a post that was put up about turning your phone to grayscale because it can help our mental health. Grayscale makes scrolling less addictive for our brains. The screenshot said it directly impacts your brain's primal urge to scroll.
Less scrolling equals better mental health, and then the post said more in caption, but it didn't screenshot the caption, so I don't have the more part for you. Those are two that are from last year. But then I got curious, like what some of the older screenshots on my phone might be.
So I scrolled all the way back to the very.
First screenshot that is on this current phone that I have, and it is from December twenty eighth, two thousand and fifty, and it's a recipe for no bake.
Almond flax balls.
Now, I'm not even sure where it's from because all I can see is the recipe and the ingredients, and I'm gonna share it with you right now. Okay, she want to make them, but I have no idea if they're good, because I do not recall if I ever even made these balls back in twenty fifteen. What you need is one cup of dry old fashioned notes, a fourth a cup of dark chocolate chips, a half a cup of almond butter, a half a cup of ground flax seed, a third of a cup of raw honey,
and a teaspoon of vanilla. Those are kind of like Cat's protein balls. I mean, Ish doesn't have the protein powder, and maybe she has some other things, but she recently posted her recipe at cat van Buren is her handle. If you want to go try hers, they're so good, you can go to her page. Now you can take a screenshot of the recipe and then you can never go back to the screenshot and maybe never make them,
because that is what we do. Another screenshot that I'll share with you that might be of use to you as a screenshot that I took on October twenty fifth, twenty nineteen. It's a post from the Brain Coach. They put up something on Instagram titled signs you might be projecting. Sign number one, you overreact to something you're insecure or shameful about. Sign number two, you tell someone else they can't achieve a goal because you feel incompetent in achieving it.
Sign three you express other people make you uncomfortable, when it's really you who feels socially anxious around others. Sign four you believe someone hates you when you're the one who has strong dislike for that person. And the fifth sign you criticize or hate someone for their appearance, when it is you who is deeply insecure about that specific flaw. Now that one was back from twenty nineteen, we went
all over the place we had twenty fifteen. I do have a screenshot from yesterday that's more current and relevant because Mel recently released her book The Let Them theory, and my sister mailed me a copy and I started reading it, but I had googled something yesterday, and I guess I took a screenshot of it, and it says here, let them think negative thoughts about me is a phrase associated with Mel Robbins let them theory, which encourages individuals
to detach from the need to control what others think about them, essentially saying, let them have their opinion and focus on managing your own actions and reactions instead of worrying about others' perceptions.
So boom, look.
At me using a screenshot I just took yesterday. I'm Marty sharing it with y'all. I'm putting it to good use. But yeah, that's the first lie. I'll take a screenshot and I will look at it later. You're not going to look at it. Second lie, a new notebook will solve all of my problems. Okay, this one is one hundred percent true for me, A very true lie.
The joy of a fresh notebook.
It just feels so good.
But somehow before I use up the entire journal, like the whole magic of it has completely worn off, and now it's just this other notebook and a pile of all these half used journals that I swear I'm going to get back to and I never do. And if you're like me and this lie hits home, we need to challenge ourselves to not buy any new notebooks until we finish the notebook that we currently have. Right now, for some reason, I am literally journaling in two different notebooks.
I have no idea why. Actually three, because I have my Gratitude journal that I also work through. So yeah, three different journals for me right now. Some days, I guess it's just whichever one is closest to me, depending on if I'm journaling in my room or the living room. And I need to stick with one at a time and resist from buying a new one. So repeat after me. A new notebook will not solve all of my problems. I do not need to buy another one. I need
to stick with one journal at a time. Lie number three. I need to buy some top tier professional gear because this hobby will stay in my life forever.
We're gonna do it live We oh the one?
Two?
Three sore losers?
What up?
Everybody?
I am lunchbox. I know the most about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts my sports opinions because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all.
It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male. I live on the North side of Nashville with Bayser, my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue. Oh to be determined. Over to you, coach, And.
Here's a clip from this week's episode of The Sore Losers.
Talk to the executive in the water cooler room, the guy that I also talked to at the Christmas party, and he's the one that knew about Sore Losers, got it, And I said, well, first of all, you just tell me about Super Bowl Week. Colin Cowherd has a banger of a party on Wednesday night in Nola.
Yeah, man, he.
Said, all of his shows are there, Volume Network, Boom, Cowherd, Dan Patrick, everybody's gonna be on radio row for the Super Bowl. Okay, he said, he's going down there smoothing. So he's got the Dinners happy hours. A couple of signatures dotting eyes crossing t's this is where the A block segment comes in. I said, what is it going to take to get the sore losers at the super Bowl? And he hits me back with well, this year, it's way too late.
The super Bowl is a weekly all right, Great.
So then I hit him back with another question.
I'm glad, I'm glad we started the show with this. Guys. Hey, guys, sorry you can't go to the super Bowl. All right, that's what our listeners ei to know. Thanks for listening to the sore Loser spot.
And I said, what is it going to take to get the sore losers in San fran Cisco for Super Bowl sixty? Mother Pert? And he said it costs money, So iHeart would have to pay a purse and then we would be able to get on radio Row. So he said, you'd have to ask the executive above him, and if they okay it, that they are fine with paying that amount of money, then we would be able to have a booth on radio Row.
So you're telling me all these radio shows that are on Music Radio Row, whatever it's called, they pay money to be there. They have to pay money to be part of the super Bowl. I would think the super Bowl wants them on there and invites them because it costs. It gives them so much free advertising. All these people and all these sponsors, because every celebrity there is hawking some kind of product. Pola, Uh, here are you know?
I'm here this week on behalf of the window cleaner of this and I'm here, Oh this week, I'm representing Tide this week, you know what I mean, because we're gonna change the Tide. Oh, this week we're doing a smucker suckers.
You know what I mean.
I really love a smucker sucker before a big game. I thought that was all the advertisers. That's why the radio people are there. They're there for free. I didn't know they had to pay to be there.
He said he doesn't know the exact amount, but there is a price, and it would be a year in advanced things, So us asking him a week ahead of time. Obviously, we can't go to Nola, but San Francisco could be an option if we get the ball rolling and that is a block material. The sore losers are going to San freeing Cisco.
Yeah, we might go to San Francisco on vacation. Hey, we ain't going to Radio row. I'll guarant dang to you, we are not going to Radio Row. So one year from now when this comes back up, guys, just know we are not gonna be in San Francisco. Do not look for us on Radio Row. There is no chance the company would pay the money for us to be in San Francisco. That's all because hotel rooms are gonna cost an arm and a leg, and you know what
they're gonna pay for us nothing. They're not gonna pay the five thousand dollars to put us on Radio Row, and they're not gonna pay the one hundred dollars a night for a hotel room. We will not be in San Francisco. That was the A segment. Congratulations.
When was the last time you saw the full househouse?
Mother?
Gurr?
Uh, let's see what year was that that I go to San Francisco.
I don't know.
I went on vacation to San Francisco and it's.
Not San Francisco. It's Santa Claire a mother, gurr. Yeah, you're right, because I did. I've been to a Giants game.
It was a great stadium, beautiful it looked out at McCovey Cove. That was a phenomenal stadium really well built.
Can I tell you the South Beach story about Santa Clara?
I would love to hear it.
And was there anything else?
Again? Still are you still good?
He lives in Cincinnati, comes and visits. He came day before after Christmas.
Watched it for.
Cinnati Cincinnati's in Ohio.
Inside joke, and I was thinking the executive He also said that it's interesting because there is a lot of different clients there, but they're getting pulled in every direction. Of course, but he said he has the access so he could get Like if we were down there and we go, hey, man, can you get us in to go see Colin Cowherd do a show? He could do that, got the actual booth that costs money.
Like, if we wanted to go see Colin Cowherd do his show, could we have a moment with Colin cowhert so he could tutor and mentor us.
I didn't ask that, but he said he would be able to get us access in the radio row. But to have a booth is a step above him.
Got it?
And that leads me to this with South Beach dude. So he used to work in la and he moved around a lot with the hotel industry. He's still in the hotel industry or is he very very extensive. He's always worked in food and beverage. It's still he worked at boutiques. He's worked at big hotels, smaller hotels, pandemic hit. He said, that was rough because you had a bunch of peop that we were able to live in the hotel for free, trashed it, were rude, didn't give him tips,
didn't pay well, there was nothing but complaints. That was a tough time. That was probably the low point of South Beach's life. But he did work at the Santa Clara Hotel. I'm not going to specifically say which one, and it's right. It's very close to the football stadium. And they go, hey, you are our food and beverage guys. The South Beach doesn't care that I'm telling this story. They said, you're our guy. And guess what the super Bowl's coming in a year? He said, there were all
these meetings every Tuesday. There was a meeting about the Super Bowl a year leading up to it. Man, and this is a different one because this must have been a super Bowl three years ago. Probably I have no idea what we've had one.
I gotta be honest with you. I don't really know what you could name a super Bowl and I couldn't tell you the location, but go ahead.
So I want to say they've had one there. Unless this is the one he was talking about all along, it can't be. But they would have meetings Tuesday, super Bowl guys. Here's the protocol. This is all the stuff you have to learn. And he knew all the time in the back of his head he was going to find another job before the super Bowl, so he didn't really care that they were building up to the super Bowl.
Don't want to be there for the super Bowl?
Well, he just knew was give me a headache and a nightmare at his hotel. And so he said, Man, I'm only going to be here for six d eight months that super Bowl. I'll be well long gone before that thing comes around. So they'd have these meetings, all right, Uh, South Beach, how are you and your department? Is everything all shored up and good to go for the super Bowl eight months in advance? Oh yeah, we are good. We have done training measures. I'm doing all kinds of
orderings of things. I'm doing a lot of refurbishments, I'm also getting a lot of replenishments for all of our products. Everything will be all set.
Twenty sixteen. They had it in Santa Clara.
So then that was it. And he dude, he said he didn't absolutely nothing for it, so he wasn't. He was just chilling everybody. All the other departments. Oh man, are you starting to get ready for the super Bowl?
Oh?
Yeah, yeah, we're doing so much. We're doing a lot. South Beach was doing nothing and he's the whole head of a department and he's just telling the executives, Oh, we are good, I've got it all under control. Maybe four months before the super Bowl, he goes, hey, I so he used that hotel as a way to get to a boutique hotel in San Diego. God, and it looked awesome on his resume planning for the super Bowl
and all that. And so then he goes, hey, I got a new new job at a boutique in San Diego, So I'm not going to be here to work my department for the super Bowl. Just thought i'd let you guys know that. And they go, what about the sixteen months that we've been preparing for this? And you leave us four months before the Super Bowl, so he left him high and dry. So if you guys went to that Super Bowl, let me know, was the food and beverage in the area.
Was it lacking hot?
Was the hotels thing? I mean, did they have enough lemonade? Because South Beach didn't order enough. He didn't have the sheets in order.
Because if you guys were at the bar sucking on boot lights and they ran out, it was probably South Beach's problem.
Yeah, I'm living here him. Super Bowl fifty in San Francisco. It was the Denver Broncos versus the Carolina Panthers. The Broncos won twenty four to ten. Let's see was at Levi Stadium. MVP was Von Miller, The referee was Cleat Bakerman. Attendant seventy one thousand coin toss, Fred Belindakoff, Marcus Allen, Joe Montana, Jim Plunkett, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, halftime show Coldplay featuring Beyonce, Bruno Mars, and Mark Runson. It doesn't have anything about the hotel food.
Guys, if you were at the hotel they ran out of toilet paper, probably South Beach.
He was at a boots seek in San Diego wiping his ass with all that toilet paper had laughing at you.
If you were in the bathroom real quick about to run up to your room or maybe go to a super Bowl after party, and you're trying to look for a Jimmy because you and your girl are getting hot and heavy, and they ran out of him in the bathroom. Probably South Beach.
Actually, I blame that on the bathroom attendant. He's supposed to have more of those.
Yeah, he was more than I would say he did. Definitely did bar work. So if they ever ran while you were in San Francisco, if they ran out of a shot a drink, pina, a lot of my tie South.
Beach person.
Feels man.
You know.
The funny thing about me doing this podcast is I have enlisted pretty much all of my friends to come on just about every episode, and this week is no different. I'm bringing on one of my friends from college, Tory. Tory, how are you feeling right now?
I'm feeling better. I'm for getting suttled, ready to go. I'm excited to talk to you. Thanks for having me on.
The whole purpose of this podcast is to share stories of everyday people, and this is one of them. That is inspiring and also difficult in a lot of ways. So I have brought Tory on to share her story as she kind of went into adulthood, Tory got diagnosed with cancer. So Tory, I'm gonna let you take this away.
I ended up really getting sick in March, dealing with just like physical pain, not really being able to like heal fully. I had a pretty bad cough, which I chalked it up to having you know what I think at that point, I was saying like struck throat or something like that, and my lymp notes were just completely swollen. And at one point, you know, my roommate and best friend was asking me, like what is going on here?
And that's just kind of what led to me realizing like, okay, I was probably gona get this checked out.
Not to mention kind of the ball drop here.
My myological mom died from So she died from non Hodgkins and I actually Hopkins, but there is two different blood cancers. Again, I'm not the one to go on web md and figure out everything about my cancer. It really wasn't my style. I just did what the doctor has told me. My mom did pass from cancer in nineteen ninety nine, so same blood cancer, but kind of different styles. Not hodgkins Ism, a lot less curable even
even to date. Really, my cancer is one of the most curable cancers, and actually the age range that I got it is the most common.
I'm joined right now by Simone Jisandi. She's a published author and focus is on the education of holistic cancer therapies and disease reversal and just natural health. And I'm so excited to welcome you on, Simone.
How are you, Morgan? Thank you so much for having me on. I'm fantastic and I really can't wait for our conversation. We always see all kinds of studies. There's the studies of drink of wine it's.
Good for your health, or don't drink alcohol that's bad for your health, or this much or drink this kind. There's everything out there. What's the situation with alcohol? So alcohol, and of course, as you remember, back in the day, and of course, my father, his primary cancer was lung cancer. So back in the day, way back in the day, doctors used to say that you should smoke, And of course then we kind of came to see that.
That was not really such great advice. And I know that in the evolution of health, and of course, the more studies we do and the more we're able to actually even look at the figures that we see show up in large populations. So now it's actually and doctor Daniel Amman, who is one of the most important figures in mental health, and he's the one that does a lot of the brain scans he speaks at large So no alcohol is actually safe and it's tied not only
to obesity, but a lot of cancer. There's a lot of mental health issues, a lot of degenerative neurodegenerative diseases. So I would not recommend, especially like when you look at it from what the nutritionist in me will look at it and say, what is what are some of the nutrients that show up in alcohol, And there isn't that much, especially like when it comes to cancer, it's
a lot of sugar, zero nutrients. And if you were to look at the nitty gritty, especially now, there are a lot of additives, especially red wines are highly colored. There's sulfites, there's tannins. There's just so much that is of no value to the body that the body would actually have to mitigate it really beats up deliver.
It really beats up the brain.
And you're not taking in anything that the body can actually say, ooh that's really going to help me, like absolutely in no way, shape or form. So I always look at it through that lens if it's not going to be a help. And of course in the health arena, we all say like, you either feed.
Health or you feed disease.
So everything that you put into the body is going to feed one of those. So which one does alcohol feed?
Yeah?
Unfortunately, you know, it's always hind The hindsight is always twenty twenty when you're looking back at Oh you know now I see that, now I feel that. But you know, we're thirty years down the road and this is where we are. So hey, it's.
Mike d And this week a movie Mike's Movie Podcast, I gave my Oscar predictions. Kelsey joined me, she gave me the category, she gave me the nominees, and I went through listed who I think is gonna win, a bunch of snubs and surprises. I also did a spoiler free review of the three and a half hour movie called The Brutalist, which is up for Best Picture, and why I think it is worthy of that girthy run time. But I'll play you just a little bit of this episode.
Now you gotta check out the full thing. Right now, here's just a little bit of movie Mike's movie podcast. Kick it off with the first category.
We have Best Picture.
Oh, the big Daddy.
Please never say that again.
It's the big Daddy category.
I don't like that.
Okay's the big one.
Are you done?
Yes, I've done? Now go ahead.
We have Anora Wicked Conclave, Amelia Perez, Dune Part two, The Brutalist, The Substance, a complete unknown. I'm still here in Nickel Boys.
The surprise here, I think is Amelia Perez, just because I feel overall it has the most nominations. And I watched that movie and I just didn't quite see what made that movie Best Picture worthy.
And I've seen clips on TikTok and that was I've seen what I need to do.
I will say the clips make it seem worse than it is. The way I was exposed to it first was everybody calling out Selena Gomez for her Spanish. It was Henny Dibez, who is a great Mexican actor, one of my mom's favorite actors and he was basically saying that they should have had somebody who had more authentic Spanish speaking.
I didn't think it was that distracting.
The problem was that she speaks such good English that going back and forth between English and Spanish is very jarring. I feel like to do that role you almost have to play it a little bit closer because the character is supposed to be fluent in Spanish from Mexico and then also knows English, but her English is way too perfect, almost like California English that I mean Selida Gomez speaks.
Now.
Yeah.
It was also hard for me to root.
For the main character who was a bad person, because what that movie is about, it's a drug lord, cartel leader who wants to change their entire life, change their gender, and then kind of it's like, can you change who you are with? It was hard for me to see past the awful things that they did, and I think it's because my parents are from Mexico. Every time they go down there, their biggest fear is running into the cartel,
and I know how much that traumatizes people. It was hard for me to have any sympathy towards that kind of character, and I know the whole thing is supposed to be redemption and she's doing good things.
Later in life.
But if you look back on the things that not just her character particularly, but anybody in the cartel does, it's like, is that forgivable?
I wouldn't say it is forgivable?
But is there a way to move forward and be grateful that they're no longer doing those things and doing good things now because the other path is just keep doing bad things. True, I'm just playing Double's advocate here.
That was hard for me.
Aside from that, I thought it was a pretty decent movie except for the singing. That's the part that was just like this. If it didn't have that in there, it would be a much stronger movie, and maybe it would have moved me a little bit more. Maybe I would have felt a little bit more for the character. But it was all the musical aspects that I thought they're only putting this in to make it feel different, because aside from that, I don't know if it would have stood out as much.
So that is what I feel like is the surprise here. Even though it had.
The most nominations, I think the winner here. I'm gonna go with the movie. I'm finally going to endorse. I'm going with the Substance.
I love that movie, and for a category.
That doesn't have one movie that as soon as we watch it, I thought that was Best Picture worthy. The only movie even mentioned that in the review was when I first reviewed The Substance back opening weekend. So that is what I'm going with the winner here. I'm going with my heart. The snubs no Challengers.
It was pretty surprising.
I thought overall Challengers would have had at least one or two nomination, especially in Best Picture. I thought that was a snub. A Real Pain didn't get a nomination for Best Picture. That was my second pick to win. I said, I wanted to be the Substance, and if the Substance doesn't win, I want it to be a real Pain. But now a Real Pain is not even nominated. I also thought maybe d d would get nominated.
So can I add a snub?
Yeah?
Sing Sing?
Oh, yes, Sing Sing is not Best Picture. And there are a lot of movies on here. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten movies. Yeah, I would have probably taken out a complete Unknown.
I think I'd have taken out Dune Part two, Dune parts. I like to call it Snooze part two with the.
Shallow Bay again.
Yeah, it's rare for also sequels to get nominated. I would have taken down both of the Timothy Shalloway movies, Sorry to Me, put Sing Sing, and put Challengers in there, just because I think those will be more definitive for twenty twenty four, next category.
Best Actor in a Leading Role if Adrian Brody, the Brutalist, Coleman Domingo Sing Sing, Ray Fines, Conklive, Timothy Chalomey and a complete unknown in Sebastian Stan in The Apprentice.
Going through some surprises here. I'm surprised Sebastian Stan got a nomination. Surprised snub. I would say Denzel for Gladiator two, but can you just get nominated for being Denzel? I thought his performance was the best character in that movie.
They should just have like the Denzel Award, but I.
Don't think it was Best Actor worthy. Now I'm gonna do a process of elimination here on who I think is gonna win. I think you take out Timothy Chalamey and Sebastian Stan. Timothy Schallamey was good as Bob Dylan, but there were times where I felt his performance was a little bit weak and Timothy Shallo may kind of shined through.
It's very meta. It was like Timothy Schallamey being Timothy Shallamey, and I.
Could see that in there, and I think in a great bio pick, you should not see that at all. You should only see that character. So for that reason, and I don't think he deserves it.
I didn't go full Austin Butler.
Yeah, he didn't fully embrace it, live in it for that long. Sebashian Stan, I'm surprised he's even in the category. I'm taking him off. Ray Fines was great.
In Conclave is great, and everything he's he has such range. I mean, he can do Voltimore and he can do Conclave.
His performance was so powerful in this movie, and I found myself really enjoying it.
But I don't think he wins.
Can I make a comparison there? He goes from the dark lord to a man of the Lord.
That is true. I didn't even think about that.
Thank you.
That was a real singer.
And then Covid Domingo is the one I want to win.
I love bad.
I am such a fan of his.
I can visualize him going up there and giving his speech.
I just love his voice. I could hear him just.
He could read the phone book and I'd be like, cool, let me listen.
I would listen to his Chick fil a order.
His voice is just like But I think it's easily Adrian Brody, probably just.
Because the movies three and a half hours long. I feel like that guarantees you it's historical.
He's won in the past, and I feel like putting him against all these other performances, he is going to win. I think that is an easy call. I would put money that gold, that gold. I would put money that Yeah, is going to take the gold home.
That's what I'll try to say Adrian Brode, I said, Brody, Oh, it sound like you put a little emphasis on Adrian Brode.
I do have a hard time spelling Adrian. I never want to spell it the way he spells it.
It's kind of like gray g r A y g R eu I.
But for best actor and leading role, Adrian Brody.
Adam Carroll, she's a queen talking and it was she's getting really not afraid to face its episode soul just there flow no one can do with Quid Carne is sound.
For Carol, for all of you guys listening and watching, I like to say Ian pretty much invented the inneagram.
Oh gosh, that is that is such a gross overstatement. However, however, I'm flattered. But trust me, I did not.
Well, I'll tell you what you did, and this is what you did. And then you also have the Fix, which is coming out.
January twenty eighth.
So in another ex so this will air on Monday and it'll be coming out that Thursday.
Okay.
So, Ian, you have this amazing ability to take systems. It seems like to me like the enneagram, and the Fix is based on the twelve steps of recovery, but you put them into a form that breaks it down that we can read and apply to ourselves so easily.
Like I feel like you have.
This gift of putting like the enneagram. I always knew about the enneagram, but this book breaks it down. It explains to you your inneagram number, which if y'all have not done the enneagram, it is so worthwhile doing this with your entire family and everyone you're close to, because you learn, oh my gosh, like my dad's an eight, I know how to deal with an eight now, because an eight is what is it? What is an eight called?
It's the the challenger.
So their whole role is to go in and fight and conquer and to like make moves and be intense. And he's always been that way and that's his strength. But if you don't realize that that is their personality trait, you might, you could, you could, you could get a little bit, you could be a little misunderstanding of how they operate. Like my mom's a peacemaker, she's a number one, and my sister, oh yeah, she's a number nine.
My sister's number one. She's a perfectionist.
And so I also realized, uh, I think I was reading No, I was refreshing on the.
Road back to you. They all act out of anger. That's their their their riold goes.
To anger, and I'm a four, I'm a is it the romantic? So I'm just lost in the middle of feelings. So I've always just been overwhelmed with my feelings, internalizing everyone and always feeling like I wasn't enough or worthy, and I've just when you actually get it in a book and you put it all together, you're like, oh my god, this is why this all makes perfect sense. Yeah, and you don't feel crazy and you actually can understand all the people that you love so much, so much better.
It's just such a tool.
Yeah, it's really useful. It gives people a glimpse into the interior worlds of other people. What are their core motivations, what are their fears, what are their predictable patterns of acting, thinking, and feeling. And it also gives each type of growth path right because every type has some really beautiful parts and they also have some shadow.
Parts every part. No one's exempt, No one's exempt.
Like I have a friend of mine who likes to say, if you want to, if what you're looking for is compliments, don't play with the enneagram. Like the enneagram is going to show you in this dark clarity with in high depth things about you that you will love and go oh oh, cringe, cringe. So I mean again, that's what we need, those is we need those kinds of tools that aid us in examining ourselves and working to become the best expression of ourselves.
How did you get We're gonna move to the fix Because of the Fix? I think I love the Twelve Steps. I was in a band with one of my former bandmates was in the twelve Step program, and so I used to go with her to meetings all the time on the road when I was like in my twenties and thirties, and I was like, man, I used to think to myself, like I need this.
Yes, and I yes, you do.
But I didn't necessarily suffer or like feel like I had a true addiction. Although now that I examined my life, I was never great with alcohol, but I'm like, I didn't feel like I had this like blatant, like alcohol or drug issue that would take me to the Twelve Steps.
But when I would go with.
Her, I was like, man, I need I need this, and this is what fixes. It's saying we all need the twelve Steps. It's actually the formula to freeing ourselves from our own imprisonment our past traumas. I love that you say that you have some great quotes that I want to like talk about from the books.
Because you just summon it up so much.
I'll stay one of them. Like here you said, we're blasted into the furnace of life without adequate psychological defenses to fend off the unavoidable traumas, hurtful messages and emotional energy injuries we all sustain in childhood. We then load these burdens into our little red radio flyer wagons and unconsciously pull them behind us into adulthood. Unfortunately, no one
tells us how to heal these wounds. So in adulthood we end up developing chemical addictions, behavioral behavioral addictions, or recurrent self defeating behaviors to cope with our disease. That is just it it.
Yeah.
So part of the premise of the book is, you know, the Twelve Steps were developed ninety years ago roughly by a guy named Bill w And up until that point, people who were alcoholics were just deemed hopeless.
There was no solution to that.
Problem, right, no solution. And he introduced these steps to you know, his some fellow alcoholics, and they began to see remarkable transformation, people being freed from the entanglement of their addictions. Right now, fast forward ninety years and people think about the twelve Steps. Oh, it's for those people, right, And isn't it nice those people have the twelve Steps.
I don't have to worry about it, and I don't have any addictions.
Yeah, And look, here's my point I mean I'm speaking as a therapist, right, everybody is an addict. Like, so, an addiction is any compulsive relationship that you have with a substance, a behavior, or a person that has mood alluring effects and negative consequences that you just keep doing despite how it's affecting your well being.
And you know it's not helping you, but you're like, eh, whatever.
I'm just going to go one more time.
We don't.
Yeah, right, So when I talk about addictions, so when you think about that as a definition, who can't cop to that? Everybody?
Everyone?
Right?
All right?
So when we talk about addictions, I'm talking about codependency, not just alcoholism, drug addiction, overeating, sports, betting people, people pleasing perfectionism.
You know, uh, you wrote a whole list of them.
I've got about that long.
That is it was so comical because it's literally every It's not comical because it's true.
Oh yeah, social media?
Yeah?
Oh who's not addicted to social technology?
Right? And what is that?
That is?
Look, human beings carry with them a fundamental big ache, right.
I love that that comes out.
I mean it's always with us.
I felt my big ache yesterday.
I called a friend and I was like, I don't know why I'm need to ball, but I just do. And I don't have a particular reason. I just am homesick.
Yeah for nothing.
Okay, so beautiful. And what ends up happening is we find some external solution workaholism to fix that pain, to solve the internal problem right, and then then eventually what happens is is that our solution causes more problems than the problem that it was trying to solve.
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