MON PT 2: Bobby's Q+A On Rejection, Feeling Less Famous, And The Segment He’s Over

that comes with my job. Meaning whenever I was starting out in Hot Springs, Arkansas, there was just a slight better scrutiny, like cople maybe a couple calls on the little quest line and so you start to call us up just a little. And then I go a little Rock and it's a little more, but not much. Then I go to Austin and then I'm doing mornings, and

then that starts to get pretty rough. Austin was weird and rough though, because there was another morning show that were just awful, awful, awful people and like they started to like rattle the cage. And so I've been fortunate enough to grow with it and now it's all the time. But I think had I just been dunked into this, And I feel bad for some people who go on like a television show and they've never done anything in media.

They haven't been known at all. They go on television show or podcast and all of a sudden, they're famous, and they're getting crushed like they didn't have the luxury of growing with that. I oddly remember an episode of Home Improvement where Wilson was talking about kids and having kids,

and Wilson was the guy behind the fence. You never saw his face until like the final episode, and even when they would come out, because sometimes they would show where the whole cast would come out and they'd be like and tim aland waved to the crowd and they would say Wilson, and Wilson would come out but would

still hold that fence in front of his face. So for those that don't know, we didn't have the internet back in the nineties, not to see Wilson's face Rest in peace, by the way, but he came out in the final episode and showed his face, and it's kind of weird, I'll be honest with you. But he said it in an episode once and he was talking about having children and how hard it's going to be when they get older, and he said, you know, you get to grow as a parent as the kid grows as

a kid. So you're learning little things while the kid is learning little things, and you're learning hard little things, while the kid is learning hard little things, and you're learning mid hard things while the kids learning mid you have the ability to grow with that child being a parent, And I just kind of feel like that's a bit of what my job is. I have the luxury to have started at a very small place and have grown through the years to a level now which is wild.

So ninety six percent of the time, it's just another day. Every once in a while, I am human. I think I was talking to someone on a podcast about this recently. If I'm having a weird day, a bad day, or I didn't get enough sleep type of day, I don't look at anything because I know, regardless of what said, if it's bad, my conditions are already not good and it's going to make me even more not good. But for the most part, I feel like I'm pretty good

with it because I've grown with it. I also have an understanding of people that are the scrutinizers on the Internet in that there's a reason that they do that on the Internet, probably because they don't really have much else, much else of a voice, right. I think the easiest voice to be heard is the voice that's loud and angry, and I think that's what the Internet is. I have a role too. I don't go to comments unless it's Tuesday. Tuesday,

I dive in. I'll dive into Twitter comments occasionally. I'll look at Instagram comments a little more than on just Tuesday if there's a reason for me to do it, or if I'm going to reply to some stuff to help engagement. But Twitter doesn't matter. Twitter's accessible. I still love it for like new but Twitter's assess pool. But I don't go to Facebook at all, and never look at Facebook, don't look at any message boards, don't look

at Reddit. I haven't been to those places in literal years because there's no benefit for me to go to those places. Also, the anger that's online not just to me. But I look at someone like Logan Paul who he's killing it. He's one of the best ww wrestlers. He's one of the biggest creators period, millions of dollars. Like, he's so popular except if unless you look, if you

look online, everybody hates him. But that's the thing. Logan Paul is so popular, But because people only use their voice for the most part for ugly things, you would just think Logan Paul is so hated. So I'm able to see that pendulum. I actually need it. It's not good for my mental health, and I don't expose myself

to it. But if people stop talking about me in a negative way, if I come at a crime or something, I deserve negative But if people stop talking about me in a negative way, opinions on things that I'm doing, why I'm not good at something, people don't care. On the other side either. And for as much as people you can say love or enjoy the show or enjoy me or what they do like, it swings both ways. So as much as I'm loved is as much as I'm hated. And that has been the constant since the

very beginning of all of this. And if it went away, if I saw there was nothing being said bad about me, Ever, I also have to understand there's nothing good being said about me because I'm not making a difference at all, Like I'm not resonating at all. So if you do want to do things and be loved, you have to understand that people are going to hate you for the same reason that people are loving you. And also I've

been lucky enough to be calloused by it. I think that's my answer to that, and then only go on Tuesday. That's my answer to that too. What would you say to someone moving to Nashville or getting into any creative field for the first time. This is a good one. I get this a lot, mostly from new artists that are already here, some that are thinking of moving here or moving here. So the first thing that you'll do when you go anywhere new and it doesn't have to

be anything creative. It could be even I was a new kid in school a lot. Being a new kid in school sucks because you never start right When school starts in the morning. They always open the door at like eleven ten in the middle of the third period, and they go, this is your new student, And everybody looks up and they look at the new student. And then you go and sit an empty desk and everybody's kind of looking at you as they're still trying to

pay attention to the teacher. It sucks being a new student, but the first thing that you do as a new student is you find your crew. And usually the crew that you meet on your first day of school, second day of school, that's not really your crew. That's just people that are nice, or people that don't have friends that oh well, or people that doesn't end up being your crew. But the sooner you find and go through them,

you find your real people. Like I would say the first thing you do when you get here or get anywhere or new job is like find your people. And then in the creative world, I would encourage people to understand and accept that there is something that is a healthy jealousy, not an unhealthy jealousy. There is a lot of unhealthy jealousy that manifests itself in ways that are really ugly, especially in this town, especially within artists here. But I think a healthy jealousy and I would give

you a comparison. I have a very healthy jealousy to one of my really good friends, I would even say best like media friends. Who is Charlemagne the god in New York, Like I message him all the time going I cannot believe you're getting to do this. I'm so jealous, and I'm literally jealous, but not in a way that's negative. If anything, I am jealous, but I'm more inspired by

watching him do it. So I would say, find your crew and understand that the crew is gonna have different levels of successes at all different times, Like you're gonna

pop while they're not. They're gonna pop while you're not, Like, maintain that, and then also understand that it's so to be jealous if it's a healthy jealousy, and that you're open about it, because I have it, especially with Charlott Magne, and he probably would say that he has it similarly with me at times too, So that would be what I would say. And then also just do it. The hardest part of anything just doing it, even going to work out, Like I hate working out. The hardest part

of my going to work out. It's not running or lifting, it's just freaking putting my shoes on and going and starting. So go, just go, go, start, just go and figure it out, because no one's going to have all the answers until they get there, and then they're still not going to have all the answers, but at least now you're in the middle of it and you're creating something number three, would you say you are more successful or

less successful than five years ago? It's mixed. Here's a situation that I think I deal with a lot I never get, especially in the TV space. I can do that. First. I don't ever get the big shows that I get mentioned for, but I don't want and pass on any of the small shows. So it's like this purgatory. Like I remember whenever Noamy was coming out, this is four or five years ago, and they were like, man, you'd be perfect to host Noamy. That may not be what

it's called. It was called let's make a Deal, and there's a version of it now Noamy and pressure Luck, thank you, and man. I thought I had that job, and then they gave it to Elizabeth Banks and I was like, ah, dang, she's actually famous, so she kind of deserves that job. There have been a couple of those big shows that I don't get, and then if it's a little show, I don't really take it. I don't really do any like one offs anymore for TV, meaning I don't really fly to California because I would

go and do like a red carpet here. I don't really do those anymore, so I would say in that space, probably I'm not doing as much, so probably less. But I think that's because I've dedicated so much to building a lot of this, A lot of what we have now. Bobbycast is now on Netflix, which is great. We've built studios, I've got a bunch of shows on my podcast network, the radio show like Financially, I have never been better,

So I think that's probably part of the reason. I also think that I'm less if the word's famous, I'm less famous than I used to be. But I think everybody's kind of less famous than they used to be because famous not it doesn't exist at the level that it used to. Like you could have a TikTok channel on broccoli and be the leader and be the number one broccoli influencer, and someone would see you walking down the street and be like, holy crap, that's Frankie the

broccoli guy, and you are famous to them. So less famous although I don't ever feel like I got fully famous. I've flirted with fame for about three years. I had a good run of about three years where most places I went people kind of that doesn't happen as much in Nashville. It really happens medium to very little other places more so. But I think I'm probably I don't really have a good answer there. It's just different now.

But I'm still getting to make stuff that's pretty cool, and I'm owning a lot more stuff of my own, which is pretty cool. So I think there's a lot of freedom in that. There's another question, would you go on Dancing with the Stars if they did a winners episode? Is that what they're called, because I know they've done those episodes where they bring back past champions. Maybe it's

an all Stars. Maybe it was called like Dancing with the Stars all Stars and they brought back people, and maybe it wasn't even just winners, but people who were really good. No, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't because there's really nothing for me to gain. I will always be the guy that won and people can't believe he won. And I've said this before. What's weird about that whole situation is and it feels like yesterday and twenty years

ago at the same time. What's weird about that is I wasn't even the bad dancer on on my season, like I wasn't good, but I wasn't like the bad dance because every season there's like a bad dancer that lasts a long time and they're like kick them off. Can't believe it. I wasn't that on my season, which is what was crazy. I'm the bad winner, but I really wasn't the bad dancer, And in no way am I saying I'm a good dancer. But it was just

weird to go from. I really wasn't getting a whole lot of hate during my season because I wasn't the worst one that kept existing. It just happened really after I won the show because I was the bad winner. But I don't think I would do a winner's episode because I think I'd be the first to go. They'd sacrifice me somehow. I'd be out of there. I'd be like a side character in a horror movie. I'd go down and check the basement way early. Next thing, you know, I'm out of there and I'm a winner. I left

the show. I'm a winner. I don't have anything to prove and dance. I would go back for you know, if they were like, hey, would you guess judge or I was almost host of the show, and I have an interview with Tom Berger coming up on the Bobbycast soon where we talk about that. But no, I would not go back and do a whole season. Even if they said, well, you come back and do a dance with somebody like you know they do like the triple three way or I don't know what they call that.

That kind of sounds pervy. I don't even know that I'd have to really consider even doing that because I think that I would hurt the person dancing unless they were of limited dance ability. I don't know that I would go back either because I know my role there. How do you keep the show or podcast from being boring? Well, the answer there is I don't always. I think there are times where the show and I don't think it's purposefully and I don't think I always know when it's happening.

But it usually it catches when the show can get stale because we're doing not the same things but the same formula because it's work working well and we're told, hey, you're killing it in these cities, and it's like, well, maybe I'm not as fulfilled by it. But I'll give you an example. Don't hold this hands me. I could never do tell me something good again and be happy. I could kick tell me something good that segment in the balls and just ride off into the sunset. That

segment tests so high. I don't hate the segment. I just get tired of doing it, Like I feel like there's something else maybe I want to talk about there. But people enjoy that segment, So I'm going to keep doing that segment as long as people enjoy it. Kind of my job. That thing could die and I'll be okay. We've been doing that for twenty plus years. Like I actually own the trademark to it to tell me something good. I just made before I said this here. I made

sure last week. I own the trademark to anything that tell me something good audio as a segment in any of that, because we've been doing it for so long, and I've paid for the trademark. But and there are times, for sure where things can get stale, especially doing it this long, or some change has to happen. So how do I keep it from being boring? I don't always. I try to, but I don't always. And I do understand that if you just do something for a long time,

it can get stale. There are podcasts of shows that I've listened to and I'd be like, I'm just kind of bored by it now, And sometimes I go back and it's way better and changed, and hopefully that happens with us that if people leave, they give us a break to come back and there's something fresh about it. I think there's also something to the fact that I've had the same crew and this is a positive for twenty years, that we could fall into that pretty easily.

But also like there's some real consistency, familiarity, there's some comfortability with all of us doing it together for so long. Listen, if it were a miserable place to work, people wouldn't be last in twenty years. I promise you. I'm not always the easiest guy to work for. I have no patience. But if it wasn't generally a wonderful place to work and we weren't winning on a wonderful level, there wouldn't be these wonderfully long careers of all of us working

together for twenty plus years. So yeah, I don't have a good answer, except sometimes it does get stale, and I apologize for that. Do you ever hang out with artists after an interview almost never. I was trying to think of times if it's a friend and it's hey, come and do the podcast, and then we'll go get some dinner or something, and that's pre planned out because there's a friendship involved. Yes, but it's so rare. Brett

Eldridge and I was one of my best friends. Maybe the last time he came over, we went to just eat after it, because we hang out a couple times a week. So but it'd have to be something like that. I have made friends from doing the podcast, meaning my introduction to people were in this environment because this is a very intimate environment. I meaning we're not naked filling each other's holes, but we are sitting a few feet

from each other, relying on each other. Because I'm asking a question, I'm trusting that they're going to give me a good answer. They're trusting that when they're done talking, I'm going to follow up or go somewhere at least for good ones. Like there's a lot of trust and intimacy involved in a one on one interview that's thirty forty fifty sixty seventy minutes, and so there have been friends that have come from it. I would say one of them is Been Rector, Been Rector Artist. Whoa whoa, whoa,

whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. That's one of his songs. Maybe you've heard it. He's a dear friend of mine now and he is from Oklahoma, went to school at University of Arkansas, and I knew his music, but I never met him, and I had friends that knew him and they were I was like, Ben Rector, it's a

great guy. And I was like, I don't care. And so we did an interview and it reminded me that I hadn't met him once in a Southwest flight in line for the bathroom and I was like, Ben Rector and he was like guy, and I was like, that's right, I'm a guy. And so we had that memory and we sat and we talked and we did this interview and you can again it's a very intimate thing. And then after that we just I think started dming. Now

our families know each other. Now my wife and his wife will just make plans to go spend time together like it's like that. So I have had instances where that has happened, where I've sat with people become friends with them through this, or at least that's launched the possibility of a friendship. But no, no, really, we don't hang out after interviews becase I'm tired. It's I'd compare it to being on a seven or eight hour road

trip where you're like, why am I tired? I've done nothing but sit here for seven or eight hours, But your brains had to work the whole time, even if you know it isn't working. Your brains had to work the whole time. Because I'm going, Okay, what are they answering? I want to listen to what they're saying. I want to follow up with what they're saying. I have a point that I want to get to. I have a full narrative that I think I think would be great. Nope,

not doing that, got a pivot. All this is happening, and so after it's over, I'm tired. That being said, I guess Luke Combs, we did a Bobbycast recently and we probably stayed around fifteen minutes just talking, like off cameras, just catching up. I like loop, but that's rare, and that's probably the most Yeah, but almost never all right, two more, four more? What's the worst piece of advice you've ever gotten, to be patient, because a lot of

times patients just turn simply into waiting. It's not strategically waiting for something, it's just I'll just wait. I have found it has been way more beneficial to me to be aggressive, even if it's unsuccessful. Then do be patient, because if you do something and it goes wrong, at least you know it was wrong. If you do nothing and nothing happens, you don't know if it's right or wrong. And if you do something wrong, you can always make

a judgment and change your pattern. If you're just waiting, you really can't do anything. You're not doing anything, And a lot of times patience turns into paralysis, especially for me. So when people say just be patient about this or that, I find that to be extremely negative advice. But also, like I said earlier, I'm not patient. I'm not a patient person at all. I even talk fast, like everything about me is fast. I can't sleep at night because

my brain's going five hundred miles an hour. That's why I take xanax sometimes anyway, mostly to sleep. Though. Let's see, what's something you bought when you first made money that you immediately regretted. Okay, I'll tell something I bought. It wasn't on a first man money. That I still regret buying those stupid Apple Vision Google What are those called, Mike, Apple Vision pro don't buy. I spent four thousand dollars in those things. I use them three times. There's a

had as a cord and a battery. It's cool when you have it on, but like your neck hurts, it's heavy, and you got to walk around with a battery pack. If they made that a lot better, I think that would be cool. What did I buy early on that I regret? Oh, I was in a boat club. Terrible. I was smart enough not to buy a boat, but I got in a boat club, and as a terrible decision. Because one I didn't use it enough anyway I thought I would. I got a boat club. I think part

of it was because I didn't have any friends. You don't want to go out on a boat by yourself, and you need probably three people to actually pull like a weight board. And so when a friend bails on you too the morning of oh I can't go. You can't do anything on the boat. And I hate the water too. There's a lot of reasons this didn't work out for me, But then you would get there, and if you didn't book it enough time, you didn't get the good boat. And then if you didn't get the

good boats, sometimes you got stuck with a pontoon. That's a real waste of money. But do not recommend zero out of ten that. So that was early an Apple vision pro. Those are the two things, and then let's do one more. Do you feel like with success it makes you less relatable? No, I've never been relatable. Now, I've had life experiences that people can relate to. I've always been insane, so I don't feel like what I say day to day is relatable. I feel like I'm

extremely anxious about everything. I see the world through insane lens. I sometimes believe in the best and the worst and people in the exact same time. I don't trust the government. There's just a lot of stuff here. I don't think that I'm that relatable. I think I am extremely compelling at times. I think I have to turn the volume up sometimes on my feelings and emotions. That's just a performance part of this job. I think a lot of my life story is relatable, but I do not think

I have ever been relatable anywhere that I've been. I've always been insane, and I think that's been that's been what has interested people. And I think the relatability has been where I come from, what I come from, where I come from, and what that has left inside of me. But I in no way think I'm relatable. I've never thought I was relatable. I remember being in Austin, and Austin is a place where, especially when I first started there,

and I love Austin. It's my favorite city. If I'm ranking them, man, I can't go home cities first though, because I'm probably can put Faveville at one, but since I'm from Arkansas, I don't feel like that's fair. So if I remove everywhere from Arkansas because Fayville will be number one, Austin's got to be number one. It's my number one city, even more than Nashville. Shout out Nashville, but Austin. Like I grew up, all my adult growing was in Austin, and it didn't get cold, So shout

out to places that don't get cold. I love Austin. And when I got and I started doing mornings because I didn't do mornings, I did nights there and they fired the morning show and they were like, Okay, we don't know what we're going to do. I got a job offer to go to Seattle to do a bigger night show, and so I was like, I'm out. Station sucks.

Night show really didn't matter, and it's and it they matter now, but they don't really impact ratings to the level that a morning show and then a little bit an afternoon show does. And so I was like, I'm out, Austin, You've been cool. I was every about a year and they were like, what can we do to get you to stay? And I said, give me mornings. I was twenty two and they were like, ha haha. In my

version of it now they spin in my face. They didn't, but I'm like, they spit in my face and then pooped in my hair and told me to get out of the room. And so I left and in my version, I cried in the corner. But no, I just went home. And I didn't expect them to give me the morning job. I was twenty two years old. Because it was a multi million I knew they're going to flip the format anyway, and so I was gonna take the job. In Seattle, and so I told the people and say, oh, hey,

I think I'm gonna take the job. I didn't commit to it yet, but give me a week or so. They were like, cool, we'd love to have you. And so I went back to working on Monday or maybe even Tuesday, and they were like, hey, we want you to do mornings here and I was like what, and they said, we'll pay fifty thousand dollars a year. And I was like, I'm rich. I can't wait to buy an Apple prop Up Plus. And this is fifteen years before it came out, and I was like, I'm so rich.

Now I'm going to buy an Apple Vision Plus and I'm going to waste my money on and getting a boat club on the same day. That's how rich it felt whenever I got paid fifty thousand dollars a year. So it was unbelievable to me to make that kind of money. So I start and I buy myself and I don't have anybody with me. It's just me in a room. But all the advice that I would get from people was, hey, man, this is Austin. We like

only eat local. If we're going to like have a salad, we pull over in the side of the road, eat it from the field, like we get out and we chew the ground. That's how local. We only talk about local Austin music. Austin is weird and you better be and every woman you know better have armpit hair. It was that. It was that ever, and that's what I was told, and I was like, this is not true. They were like, if you want to be relatable to Austin, this is what you do. And I just didn't think

that was accurate. So I did the opposite of that because it's how I lived, and I was like brom and Chili's like three times a week. I really made a point to be as non relatable as possible, but it's what ended up separating me from everybody else. And we had a span. We were like not just number one, but like tripled up other shows for like three years.

Is wild. I never once pulled over an eighth the grass from the side of the road as I was told to, and the girls I knew shaved their armpits, So I was not being what I thought was relatable then purposefully, But I've never just been so relatable that you hear me say stuff and go I relate to what that guy says. Now you may relate to where I come from or why I say certain things. And I hope that's the case, and I think that's the case,

and at times I know that's the case. But I don't think that my success or lack of success, has ever made me more or less relatable. I've also gotten more comfortable with showing now that I have been successful, and that's been a little burden for a long time. I was like, I can't show anything because I don't want people to know that I have had any success or I'm making any real money. And my wife, this

is like in the last five years. She was like, you don't think they know you're rich now, Like are you stupid? And I was like yeah, but she's like, you're not flawning it. If you're living it, you're not flawning it. And there's a difference, like people can tell the different people are smart when they see what you do, who you are, and actually they're probably judging you because they know you're not saying certain things on purpose. I

thought that thought that's pretty good. So I don't think that I'm any more or less relatable than I ever have been. I do think I'm odd, and maybe that is what relatability is. Like Socrates said he was the smartest man in the world because he knew he knew nothing. That has nothing to do with what I just said, but I like to end on that. Thank you for all the questions. I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did. I got to all of them but one, and the other one was which artist you hate the most?

I'll answer that one next time, so i'd be listening next time when I answered that one. And also how big joiner? Those are the two that I'm going to answer on the next Bobbycast. It's not a Bobbycast by a Bone Show Part two. Whatever this is, I have no idea what I'm on. I'm just answering questions and we'll see you guys next time. By everybody,