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Right, we're here blowing Addie you group, thank you. Now, we have at least three coaches in the College Football Playoff on the show, which is pretty cool. So some awesome coaches we've sat down with, and these are some of the favorite moments from those coaches. Dan Lanning at Oregon's my new friend.

Well, yeah, that's awesome new friend.

Yeah yeah, sometimes he texted me it's pretty cool. Well three times ever, three times ever, three times ever. First up, we're gonna start there number one overall seed in the College Football Playoff. Oregon's head coach Dan Lanning. We went to Eugene this past summer, and I will say it is not an easy trip to get there.

No, it is further than I thought. It's a lot, but it's beautiful out there.

It better be because it's not even it's not even near, like you go to Portland and you gotta drive a couple hours. Sure, but yeah, but he was awesome. The facility amazing. I mean, they have Nike money and they went Amazings and so now they have a shot at finishing the season undefeated, win a national championship. So big thanks to University of Oregon and coach Landing for having us out. Here's about ten minutes of my favorite part

Actually we're here. I guess you're already here, so I appreciate us to be in here, right, Yeah, yes for coming.

I got a couple questions for you when I was looking at kind of your history. You went from being a GA obviously to a position coach, but then back to a GA at Bama. Was that a tough call for you to take a step back, but the program was a step up?

Yeah, it really wasn't. I knew I had more to learn.

Certainly financially it didn't make a lot of sense, but from a professional development standpoint, it was definitely the right move.

How much do you say when it comes to what uniforms are going to wear or what uniforms are going to be created. Do you ever see one that doesn't even get to the player's eyes because you're like that one is not good?

Sometimes there's a no, but but once once we have the go, that's kind of where I step out, right, so I get to see him in advance.

But our creative team, our design group, uh.

They do they do an unbelievable job and then they get a lot of feedback from our players. Right, Kenny Farr does a great job working with Nike and you know those guys that create some some awesome get ups.

For our guys.

But a lot of times we get to the game on Saturday, when I walk out the tunnel, that's when I see.

It the first time.

No way, not not the very first time. But like, but I'm not that week. I'm a lot more.

Worried about the opponent than what we're gonna work to the game.

I feel like my party jerseys.

So do you have like a guy that will say to you, hey, this looks great? This does it? Is there a an aesthetics head of aesthetics here?

No, we have an equipment manager, you know, and he's on top of it, he does as good job as anybody in the nation. In fact, I think he's the best in the nation. When it comes to piecing this together. It's Kenny farr H. And again he does a great job of meeting with our players, collaborating with them, collaborate reading with.

Nike to create some really cool setups for our guys.

Coach of the network loves highlighting your excitement and you pumping up the team. And there's always a video montage of somewhere during the game. Do you sometimes go home and watch and be like, oh, man, like went too hard? I went way too hard.

You know.

I don't normally watch the TV copy.

You know, at times we might go back and like peel through it for you know, to to make sure we don't putting any signals on film or things like that. But I don't spend a lot of time watching that. And I'm never gonna be I'm never gonna apologize for passion. I think the players are going to match your energy and enthusiasm, So that's something I always want to carry on the field.

You mentioned you're not gonna watch signal, possibly because signals could be out there that that's not really a thing anymore.

I think it'll still exist in college football just because there's still gonna be some teams that carry tempo, and if you're you know, reliant to just giving the call and when to one guy in the field, you're probably going to be short. You know, you want eleven guys playing the same call on both sides of the ball. So at times, I think signals will still exist.

Are you advocating now that every player has communication to their helmet because that's what I hear.

Yeah, i'd be, I'd be. I'd be great with that.

There's probably some guys that there's such thing as too much information too. When you get on the field, your best players, you just wanted to be all play. But yeah, I think there's probably a benefit to just to where everybody can hear the call, and that would.

That would certainly help things.

What if everybody else could talk back? Because I worked at Hobby Lobby for a while and they gave me a speaker. I was on the thing all the time and I didn't need to say anything.

You ever been on alwaukie talkie where the other guy's always talking and you can ever.

Yeah, that was me and hobby lobby. They'd be like, hey, go down and set up this display. And I was like, hey, guys, if you look at three like I out three like she's got to you know that kind of stuff.

So, yeah, that probably wouldn't be good right and not be a good thing.

Do you ever feel like you you'll change your offense or defense based on personnel that comes in if the talent is so strikingly Let's say, you know, you run wide open, but let's say the guy comes in and is a straight ahead runner and maybe doesn't need it as well open, Will you change your offense at all for that?

Absolutely?

I think a coach's job is to match the you know, the talents of his personnel, and that's, you know, going back to being a high school coach, I think you have to look and see what your players do.

Best and try to make sure you're utilizing their talents.

When you were your first GA job, what was the goal for you there? Was it to be a head coach at a major university?

Yeah? I mean that that was a goal early on.

But you know, early in my career, I think I figured out just be the best at where I'm at and try to do jobs that nobody else wants to do.

When you're defensive cornator Georgia. I hated you, man, I hated you. Who's your team Arkansas?

Yeah?

Yeah, I hate you.

Get that coach?

Yeah, And you know, not every O C or d C is known, especially when you' under somebody like a Kirby Smart or a Nick Saban, two guys that you've worked.

With, right, both those guys.

I hated you because there was there was no opportunity. It was ugly when you have the players like that and you're playing I don't know, let's let's just make up a team Arkansas and they're week do you know, like this game all we have to do, If we do exactly what we've set forward, it is.

Going to be over. They are not going to get anything.

You know.

The great thing about football is you never really feel that way. And I get nervous before every single game. Certainly we have more talent than Arkansas when we played them.

But Arkansas, No, No, we're talking about hypothetical.

How's the talent for Arkansas?

No?

No, no, no, it's better. Is that a better coach?

Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, I mean I think anytime you go in there knowing that if you don't, if you don't accomplish your goals and really, you know, operate on the same page, you got an opportunity to lose in college football, and that's part of what makes the game so great. So we try to prepare for every game the same and and hope that we go play our best and the result hopefully takes care of itself.

When you walk into a mom or a dad or a grandma who remember raises the athlete that you're trying to recruit, What do they know about you? Once you're gone? That makes them want to come here? Once I'm gone, Yeah, once you leave the room, once you leave the house.

Just then I'm authentic, Like I'm the same guy today that I was, you know, twenty years ago. I hope that's what people can always say about me, that just because positions have changed and situations changed, that I'm the same person and that family.

Matters to me.

I think if you're in the room with me for ten minutes, you're probably gonna hear about my boys and my wife, and that's something that's important to me. And that we treat the players on our team the same way.

Sometimes I'll see and I have a little warehouse. We do.

I have a little clothing line. It's we do a lot of charity work with our clothing line. And we have one of those little machines that Prince Olta shirts. I feel like here there's like a one of those, you know, apparel printing machines.

You just get anything you want printed.

Is it on campus or do you have to have a ship to you because it's NonStop everything's Nike, Oregon everything.

Yeah, it's a good setup. You know, we've got an awesome relationship with Nike.

I don't know about that's the White House here though, right I couldn't.

I couldn't answer that.

That's a secret.

I know this when I show up to my locker and.

I open it up, there's there's a stuff, and that's it's pretty awesome. Like I said, Kenny Fard does a great job of taking care of our staff.

And our players. Yeah, we don't run out of gear.

I didn't used to consider myself a shoe guy, and now now I got too many.

Shoes without identifying anyone.

Were there ever colors that you just didn't like wearing because you didn't like the colors? Not here, not Oregon in other schools you've been at, because some if I had to wear orange, I'll be honest with you, burnt or Tennessee orange, I might quit just for that.

Yeah, I guess color never been that. I've never been that much of a fashionista. I'm not a big fan of purple, but beyond that, I'm pretty good with any color.

I guess, so light purple probably wouldn't be your jam.

Not m cham like the U c.

A Bears, you wouldn't go coach at UC.

I would go.

I'll coach where there's a job. I'm not going to make my decisions based off of color.

But luckily for me, I found my last job you played at UCA was coach Norbal at Florida State.

That's right, and you worked with coach there? What was he like?

Yeah, he's awesome, like relentless, you know, works works his taiale off, extremely intelligent, willing to get in there, and coach will coach every position on the on the field.

You know, unbelievable family.

You know, whenever I work with coach, it's the same time my wife got diagnosed.

With cancer and he was really good for me and my family.

Then I'll run through a couple and then coach, what did you learn from him?

Consistency? You know, the guy's a robot.

He Uh, every morning he's rolling in the office the exact same time.

We're gonna have a staff me in the same time. You know.

His his routine was really impressive to see, whether it's what he's eating every morning or every lunch, the way he operates day in and day out was was really impressive. Coach smart, yeah, just uh, enthusiasm, passion, intelligence, ability to adapt. Always thought he was on the cutting edge of things and always looking for an edge.

I mean, bones is rolling through all these great coaches that you worked with, the schools, but he's forgetting Sam Houston State, we're probably the best school in America.

About the donut shops in Huntsville, Oh, the best, the best, And I think her cap at a donut shops per talent, I think it's gotta be one of the hut.

What was your I mean, what was that experience? Like a lot of people are gonna want to hear about this.

Yeah, yes, for social Yeah.

So I worked with Casey Keeler was the head coach there, and that was that was a great coach to be under. He really gave you an opportunity to figure out how.

You want to do things. You know, he let his coaches coach.

He'd push you, he'd questioned you, but he gave you an opportunity to go, you know, make it what you wanted to make it. So your dB meeting that day, your corners meeting that day, it was, you know, how do you want to build it?

What do you want to look like? The drill work you did.

On the field, and you make some mistakes, but you also learned a lot in the process. So I love my time there at SAM and it's you know, it's it. It wasn't the bus league at that time, but you take some long road trips, you know, you do hop on a charter bus from time to time.

To get the places.

And you know, that's something that I think everybody should experience in their coaching career.

Going to Sam Houston, keeping it real. I think everybody should go to SAM.

That's at some point, That's all I says.

Everybody must go to Sam Houston State to coach at some point. Now, I think you know, my wife and I have this discussion too. We met at a restaurant we worked at out back steakhouse together. And I think the other thing that everybody should do is some point

Out and it's not even waiter's fault, but sometimes you have to be.

Sometimes like the head coach, like it an't always your fault, but you got to take it and go and take responsibility.

Can you solve a problem? Yeah, can you solve a problem? So that's something else that you know. I'm a big believer in that everybody should have to do that at some point.

Next up, also in the college football playoff, is Boys he head coach Spencer Danielson, who still looks young enough to be like a sophomore on.

The team, makes us feel real old.

Coach.

Danielson was hired in twenty twenty three after starting out as a GA in twenty seventeen, so he's been there the whole time, worked himself up the ranks. He now has a team in the college football Playoff. They even got a bye. It's pretty awesome. We really enjoyed Coach Danielson. Here he is coach Spencer Danielson. What is your man

Coach?

I'll be honest, guys, I don't have a man cave. I got two little girls, a three and a half year old and a two and a half year old. So the spare room we have is filled with dressed up elsa from Frozen. There's a little kitchen in there with a bunch of fake food. So when I come home, man, I joke with people that the beautiful thing about being a girl dad is you know how much those.

Two little girls care about football? Not one bit?

You know when I come home. Literally last night, I came home and my wife bought this t Rex dress up costume that my three year old was ready to scare me when I walked.

In the door.

So it's you know, it's so cool to be able to blend those things, especially as a coach. You have to, I mean my girls come to practice a ton. I want our coach to bring their families around. So at home, I don't really got the bad caveto my wife. I'll put whatever game's on in the in the living room and I'll be, you know, watching the girls, and then this out this side of my as.

I'll be watching some football. But it's my wife's a rock star.

I mean we met in college at a Zuza Pacific, which I'm sure you guys have never heard of.

It's okay, it's the Harvard.

Of the West, and you know, it's just it's been an awesome just experience for us through the year. This is year number eight for us at Boise, So this has really become home. Like it's a great place to live and thrive. And everything I do is to impact these kids. And I'm open about my faith. I talked to our players about loving Jesus a lot, and some people don't like that. I'm like, well, this is me.

It's my foundation, and so just so hombled and blessed to be here and be a part of it.

How do you find time to be a good husband during season? I travel a lot. If I'm either doing stand up or whatever, project. I'm on the road a lot, but my wife and I really have dedicated like Tuesday evenings even for like four hours, we specifically have that time. Now for you, it could possibly be different during the season than not, But how do you make sure you can still dedicate some time to your wife and family during a football season.

Yeah, so much of it is just and I'm working on it every single day. I'm not gonna sit here and say that I got to figure it out by any means.

We're going on year ten of marriage, and first off is a testament to my wife. She's a rock star.

But I mean Coach Pete's a huge mentor of mine. And you know something I've took it from him is just blending your home life with you do it with football, and then you just got to be intentional. So like even in a game week situation like Sundays, I try to make sure I get home Sundays, make sure I get dinner with the family and put our girls to sleep, like that's a non negotiable. Tuesdays after practice, me and my wife outside.

Of Boise, we gotta right our outside of our facility.

There's a river.

Me and my wife on Tuesdays after practice, will go on a thirty minute walk and just talk about life, how the girls are doing, how she's doing. We have a we're expecting another baby in March, so kind of going through how she's feeling. And then on Thursday night is date night for us. And then depending if it's

There's no substitute for it. And I also want our players.

A lot of our players come from home situations where they didn't have a dad. I mean they're raised by their mom, their auntie, their grandma, maybe a coach. So I want them not that we're perfect examples. We're working our tailoft always improved, but I want them to see what a husband and a father looks like.

We got players in our team that are dads. Want them to see what this looks like.

Not perfect, it's not about perfection, but seeing us in that space. For our players to be around, those things are huge. So try and be very intentional with the time we have, especially in season, and make sure that it's on my schedule. This is my time with my wife, or this is the time that I'm doing this.

And try to stick to as much we can.

We have a lot of parents that will listen to the show and talk about and ask questions about.

Their kids playing sports.

Would you prefer a kid play a bunch of sports or really dedicate themselves to one.

I would love.

Someone to play as many sports as they can. I'm such a firm and just playing as many sports as you can from the youngest age you can play them.

And I just think being able to build the overall athlete is such a big deal.

And I see all the way through high school, like I love like we I want to recruit guys that run track, play basketball, baseball because it just shows the different skill set that they're into and especially even more college has become college footballs becoming even so much more specific, and they are recruiting where guys are getting offers as freshman high school. We don't do a lot of that

Yeah, coach, he's talking about parents, you know. So at the middle school level, high school level, you're dealing with a lot of parents is getting involved with their kids, and the coaches have to deal with that. What about the college level, do you have to deal with parents of players and tell them like, whoh, I got this.

I'd say a little bit more of the door. I mean so for me, I mean just and.

Once again I say this stuff by no means that I got to figure out. It's just my heart and it's who God made me. When I say we're a developmental program, you need to make sure everybody's involved in developing these kids. So when when with our players, I zoom with our parents once a month. So once a month there's a zoom set where every parent will get on a zoom we'll talk about our team, where we're at. Every week, my assistant will send out a weekly newsletter kind of like.

Hey, these are some highlights from the week. These are some guys that are you know, doing some really good things. Blah blah blah.

And then I'm involved with our parents like and I don't I don't talk much about playing time, but I tell me, if you are concerned and you're frustrated, I want you to call me and not sit on those things because I want to be able to be real

Son to grow.

And so I want to keep the lines of communication open, and especially in this you know, new landscape of college football with the transfer portal, is I want our parents to know exactly what we're doing and how we're developing their sons. And I believe that we're going to develop their sons better than any other school. Maybe other schools can offer them other things, but there's not going to be a place that they're going to develop more.

And I think being.

On the same page with these parents and just being intentional to be upfront with them, and that's where that's why I zoom with them once a month so they can know my messaging.

This is what when.

We talk about practice performance like, this is what I mean. So if your son is performing in practice, you're going to see him play more in the game. If your son is not playing in the game, you know that that's probably because he's not performing.

The way we need him to in practice.

So I'm intentional to be truthful with our parents to know the landscape so then they can filter through some of the information they're maybe getting from their sons.

If there's a concert coming to Boise and who is it that you will not miss?

Oh, good question, I'm probably more on the on the country side of things. I don't listen to a ton of music. I listened to a lot of worship music. I like Elevation Maverick City are two of my favorite worship band. But I'd say like country artists. I'm a huge Luke Holms guy. He came to the Blue a couple of years ago. Didn't miss it.

Who else would I say? I like Morgan wall And.

If there's a if there's a country concert coming to boise Ido and we're not doing football, I'm gonna I finally got some cowboy boots this offseason, so you better believe that I'm gonna be I'll be rocket those.

To final question, do you ever just want to give yourself the game ball in front of everybody?

Give it to me, boys, look at me. This is what I got going up. I mean, I'll be honest, No, i'd either's.

I mean, I just I'm one of those guys that's probably overly emotional, Like every time I talk to our team, I gotta fight crying because I just love these kids.

I mean, I see the work they put in, the grind they do.

I mean, when it's January, Ashon gent's doing up downs in the snow, and then you see them do what they do. That's why I mean after these games, I'm emotional because you know, I I just am so respectful of our players not running from hard work, not taking the easy road, doing you know, really enjoying hard stuff. And I think that's uncommon in college football right now. And I'm not saying that makes us better perfect by

I didn't do anything. I'm a I'm a glorified cheerleader.

Coach, we really appreciate the time we're rooting for you.

I appreciate you.

Moving on to Marcus Freeman, he's the head coach at Notre Dame, and he made me feel like I could go play at Notre Dame right now totally. I probably wouldn't because it's cold. And that's the only reason I could for him. I can play linebacker. I'm not going to play that anywhere. It's freezing cold there. But man, this dude he played linebacker at Ohio State.

He was the.

Defensive coordinator, and then when Brian Kelly left to go to LSU, he became the inne Roman, then the head coach. I mean, he still looks like he can go right now. So Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame. Here is Coach Freeman. Hey, coach, thank you very much for the time.

We really appreciate it absolutely, man, glad to be on here.

Question number one, when you're recruiting a kid, do they ever say it's just too cold up there?

Coach?

If they say that, I probably turn away as fast as I can. You know, I let them know that. Listen, man, we got jackets, we have indoor stadium, an indoor practice facility. I'm from the north, I'm from Ohio, a Midwest guy, and so listen, cold is cold, and you don't ever get used to it. You just got to put on more clothes and at some point you'll you'll figure it out. But you know, most kids that say, coach, I can't play in the cold. You know right away you're not going to get them.

What's like the trick to catching balls in the cold.

I know you look at me and you go, that guy was a heck of a high school receiver, and coach, I accept that. Thank you for saying that in your mind. But I always struggle catching balls in the cold. I catch balls in the warm, but catching balls in the cold, like, what is the key to catching a ball in cold weather?

You know, I think you've got to try to keep your hands warm, Like, if your hands are frozen, you're not going to be a great pass catcher. And so you know, obviously hand warmers, they have those, the handwarmers that you were outside of your uniform. But in between plays, it's really important to keep your hands warm, and so you have to use different things to make sure that happens. That that might be handwarmers inside your glove, that might

Can you wear doctors gloves inside of a glove?

Yeah, there's some players that do that. There's some coaches that do that.

Dang that's what I would do, because we'd be in the deer woods and I wear doctors gloves underneath gloves, and I was made fun of. Do you guys make fun of people who do that? Because if so, I take offense.

Not.

As as long as you get your job done, nobody's gonna make funey. You always say there's no there's no such thing as a cold tough guy. And so you know if you're if you're cold, you're cold. You're not being a tough guy. So do whatever it takes and make sure you're warm.

Now you're gonna be humble here. I would prefer you not, but maybe we can meet somewhere in the middle. Do you think you could play a solid two to three minutes a game right now you've said enough.

Enough?

Yeah, it depends on what the offense is doing. But yeah, listen, I mean, my pride is telling me I could give you two to three minutes. The outcome might be something that the offensive defense doesn't want, but you, my pride tells me, yeah, I could play a couple of plays.

If you win a big game, how quickly do you go home? Do you have a bit of family time at home or do you get right to film that evening depending on who the next opponent is.

Yeah, I go right away. That's just who I am.

If it's an away game, I make sure I evaluate the game on the plane as we come back. If it's a home game, I come right into my office. For me, it's hard to go home and have family time when I haven't evaluated the previous game. So I evaluate that game right away and take some notes and then go and have a little bit of family time and come in on Sunday, and now you can be ready to move on to the next opponent.

Tell me about Riley Leonard as a dude.

He's awesome man. He is just a great human being. He's a great teammate. There's not enough compliments that I can give him, but he is a wonderful for individual.

So after the loss at Northern Illinois, what was the big takeaway that has changed this team for the good?

I think it's just the mindset that we have to have.

And I said this to the media on the Monday after that game, is that this is the first time for me as the head coach of my three years that we won that big game early. You know, we lost to Ohio State the past two years early in the season, and it was kind of like you were humbled and you got to make sure you're getting ready for the next opponent. But this time we won the big one early over Texas A and M. And I think as we look back, we didn't have the right mindset,

Team is, but we got to keep that same mindset. It's just this is who we are.

We're not going back to who we used to be, and we got to approach every week with the right mindset.

I feel like once in Churchill's pretty cool when I like read what he had to say. I feel like sometimes I listen to Gary Vee and let's talk about sports cards. Who is it that you can listen to talk and it can really fire you up or kind of reset you.

Oh man, you know there's a couple of people, you know, every once in a while, listen.

To a motivational speech.

You know, we played a Kobe Bryant video the other day, just talking about the mindset. I might listen to a sermon by TD Jakes or something like that. I'll listen to a coach. I talked to my college coach, Jim Tressel often, who helps, you know, with my mental approach as the head coach and the leader each week. But I think you can grab wisdom from anybody, and it's all about you know, are you humble enough to accept the wisdom that's out there?

Do you still call coach Tressell coach?

Absolutely? I always will and.

That's pretty cool. What about your high school coach, You still call him coach?

I call him coach.

That's right.

I think once you have a coach, like especially somebody that's older than you and that's impacted you in a strong way, like they're always coach to you, and no matter how long or how old you get, you know they're always going to be coach.

Notre Dame known for their traditional uniforms. We know who it is when we see it immediately in the land, though, of everybody wanting ten thousand uniforms, any idea to put like a couple of hearts on the side of the helmet, or like just like one game, like switch it up a couple of lightning bolts like or is it just.

We are who we are, We're not changing.

Listen, there's a little bit of both, right, the the old traditionalists. You know, every year we wear green jerseys, and I don't have to be on social media to hear sometimes the complaints.

Sometimes even within this building.

We have some guys that played here that just love the tradition Notre Dame, and I can tell it kind of turns their stomach when they see us in green or wear a different combination. But I think part of it is that we have to remember what our tradition is.

Like those gold.

Helmets, the normal home and away uniforms is something that makes us unique. But the young people like a little bit of flavor, and so I think you can be somewhere in the middle where you let your your players and your captains kind of determine what they want to wear for that week. But at the same point, let's not get too far away from the tradition.

What about people not wearing knee pads?

Do you ever like put pads in?

No?

I mean, listen as you looking in NFL, some of those guys don't wear knee or dipads, and.

You know, it depends on what position you are.

If you're a ball carrier, uh, you probably should have knee pads in. But a lot of guys on defense, you know, there's not a whole bunch of cup blocks anymore unless you're playing Navy and Army. Knee pads can be overrated at times, but it's all based on the position you play.

What if one of your guys want to wear like the old school single bar, like Dick Bucke's helmet is like coaches, would you allow that?

The only things you better be tough.

Now, if you're gonna wear one of those homes, you better be tough and represent what that means. But as long as you go do your job and you're tough, I'm good with whatever you wear.

I would play for you. I say this all the time. I know you're not here, but I would play for you, even though you would never let me. But like, I watch you and I'm like, that's a dude that I'm not like at all because I'm not near as tough or cool or good looking.

But I would like to play for him. So congratulations, coach.

That means a love.

I appreciate you.

I love to host you here anytime.

Man.

All right, long as it's not cold. All right, coach, see you money?

All right, brother, take care?

All right, let's pick our parlay of the week NFL. Okay, here's the deal. I'm gonna do money lines. We're doing four money lines. And some of these money lines might seem a little easier than others and some will not be. But I'm going all money lines. I'm feeling pretty good about these, and we're gonna go first jets at bills which is probably the easiest. If I'm money lining it, it's probably the easiest money line ever. Or is it You ready to be shocked? Naw, you shouldn't be. All right,

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This one's pretty cool because he was just named SEC Coach of the Year. It's our talk with twenty twenty four SEC Coach of the Year from Vanderbilt coach Clark Lee Man. What a great season for Bandy and when they beat Alabama, the whole world was like, what Vanderbilt was oh and sixty all time versus top five teams and just hadn't beat Bamman forty years. But we love Coach Lee. We had spent time with him in the past,

What do you even say? Coach come on?

Oh man, I've had to fight and move past that.

You could relive that night, you know, every day for the rest of your life, if you if you had your choice.

But we got to move on now.

I hear you.

But okay, well before I move on, let's have ten minutes with us.

What does your phone look like after that? Coach?

You go to your cell phone, you finally get to it after everything, and what.

Does it look like?

You know?

I changed my number in May, so over the years kind of it made the rounds too many times, I think, And so I was starting to get some kind of odd ball texts in the springtime and I think changing my number probably saved me another five hundred texts, you know, but it was look you for all the for all the times that you come back to your phone and it's there's nothing there.

You know, you just you appreciate people wanting to celebrate with you.

And I think there's there's so many people that you know, over the years have like falled alongside me or supported me in some way.

It's special to hear from them. You know, youppreciate that.

Okay, so what matchups did you say leading into that game that you felt like there was a chance you could exploit or at least have advantages.

You know, there weren't a lot of I mean, you know, that's a tough game of tough matchups for us.

I mean, you know, that's a really skilled team.

I think, you know, offensively, we were just trying to find the space to stay on schedule, and we knew that if we could possess the ball that we were going to get a chance to get the ball up and over the top. You know, they were going to be opportunities for us to hit some shots, and we were able to do that.

We missed on some too, but on the whole.

Offensively, it was about staying on schedule and a lot of that channels obviously through our quarterback run and you know, our run game is is pretty multiple. So I felt like we were able to win physically at the point of attack on offense and create the space we needed to stay on schedule and that allowed us to extend drives and have opportunities to puncture the end zone.

Defensively, you know, this.

Was a game where we were we were really interested in and stopping the quarterbacks ability to extend the plays with his feet. Obviously, we knew that the explosive passing game was going to run through number two and you know, we were just trying to a limit their opportunities by possessing the ball with our offense and then be you know, absorb some of their plays without allowing to score explosive touchdowns.

We we did that well enough, you know, to end up winning the game.

I think there's a few a few we went back, specifically the third down that they were able to get the ball over top of us, and again credit to them,

Field, and then again we were able to accomplish that as well.

That's kind of the makings of, you know, what would be a winning performance for us against anybody. Certainly when you're playing a team like Alabama, you can't you know, you can't miss on your strategy and think you're gonna have a chance to win it.

When you go on at halftime, did you make macro adjustments or did you just reinforce what you had already set pre game.

A lot of it is just kind of looking at what, you know, what is the plan that they had for us, and let's make sure we're clear on what those things are. You know, Defensively, it's like the special formations that you're seeing that they know.

They're going to come back to.

Offensively, it's you know, how are they defending the option, how are they defending your replays? And what are they what are they doing in their box that tells you this is kind of their plan moving forward. And then to the team, you know, it really was to me about kind of almost kind of taking some of the emotion out of the moment, which I.

Know sounds weird.

I mean, look, I'm a I get excited and fired up and can get emotional in the game. I just felt like we needed to focus on the fact that we've been in this situation before that you know, it's not going to take anything extra from us to close the game out. You know, we needed to come back out and focus on again our strategy, playing the cleaning game, you know, and just stop by stop possession by possession,

You know they did just that.

Is Diego just like a dog. He seems like a dog. I mean, I'll watch him. I'm just like that dude goes home.

Yeah, I mean it's a He's a unique competitive personality, Like there's not another one that I've ever come across that is as you know. I think the one thing that can get a little misunderstood about him is like, this is a really serious.

Guy who is such discipline in his process.

I mean he's so steady and consistent in our building and day and day out, you won't even.

Know he's around.

I mean he's it's not like he's the loudest guy in the room. It's not like he's looking for the attention. I mean he just he.

Sits front and center of every team meeting.

He's right in front of me every time after practice on a knee, locked in and focused.

He carries my message to the team.

He builds confidence in the locker room by making subtle connections with players and creating closeness that way. But when he crosses the lines, he just has a swagger about him and it's infectious. Everyone sees it and believes in it, and you use the word dog, like he's a dog you want the ball on his hands in critical moments. He's proven throughout his career and certainly in his time here that every time he takes a.

Snap, you have a chance to win. So we're glad he's on our team.

And for me personally, I mean, this guy represent everything I want this program to be about. And he's helping us put a product on the field that's fun and exciting and and you know.

He gets a lot of credit and he should. I think that.

You know, the other guys that are playing alongside him have done a really good job, especially in our front, to open up space receivers, blocking down field. We just have such a different competitive makeup offensively and defensively right now.

That's helping us find ways to win.

Only got a couple of minutes love with you, and we appreciate you fitting a sin because everybody wants to talk to you.

Bell of the ball is what I would say. Got you are the bell of the ball right now. How in the world.

And I know you're going to find a way to do it. But Kentucky, you have Kentucky coming up. I mean, this is the big subs that I've seen in maybe my life one of them. But how in the world do you get your guys to forward face now after being celebrated like so mightily over the last couple of days.

Yeah, I think the real challenge is that the celebration won't stop. You know, we internally we've turned the page. Yesterday we got to work on Kentucky. So now we took time to enjoy in the team meeting, just kind of the fruits of our labor. You know, put some clips on film that I felt like showed the toughness we played with, celebrated players of the game, so on

It's over. Every ounce of our mental.

Energy needs to be focused on our next opponent, which is Kentucky, which is a really good SEC team.

It's a tough team on defense.

It's a team that knows how to run the football and has exposive playmakers on the perimeter. And you know, Mark Stoops is the consummate program builder, and they've always been a tough out and they are going to be ready for us. I'm sure you know they're talking about the last time we went up there, which was twenty twenty two, and we were able to pull off a win.

Last ten seconds of this interview, we're gonna clap for me.

Yes, how we end it right here, let's go.

I'm super happy for you, coach, super happy to see like the culture. I mean, it's a Cultures are like humongous boats. It doesn't matter the industry. It's like, yeah, it takes a while to turn it. It's not like a little car. It's a big old ship. And watching what you're able to do and what you're doing is really really been fun and motivating, even for myself. So congratulations coach Man, thank you for the for the time this morning.

A great to be with you. Bobby always Man coach.

Next up is Eli drink Witz from the University of Missouri. Coach drink was a season ticket holder at the University of Arkansas and now just enjoys trolling the University of Arkansas. And I'm an Arkansas fan and had not been able to spend a little time with coach drink Witz and talkt to Coach drink here, I would be annoyed too, but I respect the troll game. But I love who he is. I'm a big fan.

That was a fun interview, just that's the way you guys interact with each other.

We also had to cut the first part of it off. If you guys remember he said some stuff at the very beginning. Yeah, he didn't ask us to remove it, but I felt it was better for all instead of a few clicks that we just eliminate that because he went after another SEC coach and I thought, I don't know if he knew we were recording, but just in case. So yeah, Coach Drink's awesome. Zara had a pretty good year.

Why do coaches like bye weeks? What will you do differently?

First off, you get to just take a deep breath.

You don't have this constant churning in your stomach like you know you got something on Saturday. It's going to determine the happiness of about six and a half million people, including yourself, and you get to kind of be normal. Like my daughter had a volleyball game last night, and so I got to go pick her up from the game. When the bus got back. I'll get to go watch

A time to take a deep breath.

I think from a football standpoint, you can actually work on things.

You know, it's easy to say.

Hey, we got to get better this week, but when there's a game coming and you have all this game planning stuff you have to do, there's not a whole lot of just moments where you can focus on fundamentals and improvement because you've got to get the schemes in for that week.

You've got to get the preparation in.

But in a bye week, again, you don't have an opponent on Saturday, that opponent yourself, so there's really more time to focus on on Hey, this twenty minutes of practice is going to be specific to getting better. Five minutes on third downs, five minutes on team run five minutes on motion adjustments.

So that's probably the best thing about it.

Are you the bell of the ball in Columbia? Can you grocery shop?

Yeah?

I can grocery shop. You find it funny?

The other day I was driving my car to stop light and there were two college aged students who had their phone up next to the window taking a picture, and I just looked at him and was like, if you'll just tell me, I'll smile for the picture. I'm always worried that they're going to catch me picking my nose or something while I'm driving or singing to myself in the car, but I'll say this, I don't let

I had a call or call the show and they were doing a paper on grit and she was like she got through the phone lines and she said, hey, would you talk about what you think grit is? And I think my career has been mostly based off perseverance, right, like not doing a very good job and getting up again and doing it a little better and a little better because I've naturally not been that gifted at anything. How would you define grit and who are a couple of your grittiest players?

Man?

I love that you asked this question. Gritz the stubborn refusal to quit. I mean, that's all it is. It's just you refuse to give up, and it's passion plus perseverance over time, Like what are you willing to endure to accomplish what you want to accomplish. I think Brady obviously is a great example of grit. I think Cody

Was the MVP of the Cotton Bowl.

It took him four years to really earn significant playing time. But instead of pouting, instead of trying to go into a different situation, he just said, I'm going to sustain excellence every day, and that's really what.

You have to do.

You know, we have.

We had a group of Navy Seals come in and they said winning is reserved for those who are willing to pay the price. And that's kind of our thought process this year, like what price are we willing to pay to win? And you've got to be willing to outlast people. You've got to be willing to sustain it even when it's not going your way.

Coach, at the end of the game, you know, I see the two coaches go and they meet each other. What can you possibly tell each other, especially if you've lost the game, Like what's that conversation like? Or do you are you thinking? Like what am I going to tell him? As I walk up there?

You know, I've had some awkward conversations with the head coaches across the deal. Honestly, you know, when you're the winning coach and you're going across the field to the guy who's lost, you realize and know.

How much pain they're in right then, and really.

All I'm trying to do is give them some some sort of like comfort or something, because man, the hardest thing to do is to swallow all your emotions and then go in there and address your team. So that's really what I'm doing. Whenever, whenever they're they're saying something to me after they're whipping my butt, it's usually as quick as I can just shake their hand and try to gather my thoughts and emotions before I address the team. But you know, I have such a tremendous amount of

I think a bit the pre game would be awkward if you're expected to talk and you don't really like them or know them. Like we have guests in studio and there there are you know, celebrities that either I don't like or I don't know them. We have to like do small talk for like six minutes before this, and that's torture for me, and I got to imagine just the human nature of it there. That's probably the same situation. So the pre more than the post. The

Well apparently you don't have to.

Ed Or Doron didn't come shake my hand before the first time we played them, and that was really the first.

Time and only time I've ever had that happen, So.

I guess you don't have to.

Are you're supposed like that's the thing you're supposed to like.

Yeah, I mean it's kind of a you know, it's kind of a sportsmanship deal. I tell you when I come into that the most is when you have to do the Friday pre game media because there are some media that you know, have been taking shots at you or you know, shots at your team, and then you got to go sit there and act like you're going to be anybody and give them all the information that they want to ask. So that one's always the one that you're like.

Yeah, yeah, final question, coach, if you're struggling emotionally mentally, who professionally can you call who's your mentor.

Well, you know, there's a couple of different people that I can reach out to.

From a spiritual standpoint, there's.

A guy in Boone, North Carolina named doctor Dick Furman who's been a really a person of great character and integrity for me for the last six years, and.

The highest of highs I can expect to get a text from him that says.

T y L which stands for thank you Lord, or the lowest the lows I can get a text from that. It's going to say thank you Lord, because you just realize that you're blessed to get the opportunity to do this, and you realize that your future is in his hands and not to get caught up in the anxiety of it. From a coaching standpoint, you know, coach Malson's obviously a guy that I can reach out to that we exchange ideas back and forth from.

So there's just different people like that.

But in the but in those two situations, those would probably be the first two phone calls. You know, sometimes I'm not quite as quick to call Gus because you know, he's still the guy that I ga Ford, So he'll tell me that that's pretty dumb.

What is your problem here?

Man?

But that's good to keep me humple.

Coach, good to see you.

We talked about coach drink Fro Missouri being like hey, and he's saying all this stuff and we edited him out. Brett bielamaf Milanoy, who also is right on the verge of making college football playoff like he got in the mix with Lane Kiffin when Kiffin was like, we're nine and three, we should get in and Bilama wasn't serious about them deserving a shot in, but he's like, if that's your logic, well here's ours, and it's better than yours.

Love it.

And so coach Beelam was awesome. I know coach Bilama a bet from when he was at Arkansas. Now, what happened with this one was he did not know we were recording. But because we don't have good radio voices, no one ever knows we're recording that. They were just talking to them and he did I'd say some stuff and they reached out and said, would you guys mind removing that He didn't know you're recording, and we were

Lama, Hey, coach, how you doing, my friend, coach?

If you found it to be most effective to get your guys used to loud cheering or music, because you've done this a while, Like what's most effective in practice.

Still by far just the crowd noise in the stadium, you know, just just putting it out there. I mean today, now, what we do do here is I removed my defensive coaches and players because I want it to be so loud you can't really conduct the practice for the other side of the ball because on offense, when we run to play, we crank it and then we'll turn it down, you know, in between while we want to correct it and then they'll crank it way back up.

So is it ever so loud you cannot hear in the in helmet communication?

Does you know? It does get loud?

Now?

We actually not a lot of teams are using them, but there's actually muffs that you can put on your helmet that our quarterback. You'll see our quarterback doesn't have ear holes because we put a canceling device over his ear hole. You'll see a lot of quarterbacks going like this, that's because they don't have that device. But it really

Coach, what's all my like in the locker room? What kind of leaders?

You know?

What?

Bobby?

First off, you know, his dad was a team doctor a Mississippi State, so he's been around college football his whole life growing up, been around it, seeing it, lived it. So his awareness to the to the world and college football is really really high. His football IQ extremely gifted ball awareness. He's also a tremendous kid of faith, so like he's very fade driven. But it's not like these guys that you know, come across preaching and teaching everything.

Like.

He's a very relationship driven guy and just really exudes confidence that carries over to every position.

I'm want to ask a really dumb question because I just don't know the answer. Is there food at halftime in the locker room?

A good question?

Oh yeah, yeah?

Like and how much did someone eat?

Well? Even even going back to my time at Arkansas. You know, so Ben Herbert, who was my strength coach there, we kind of developed it when I was at Wisconsin. He's done with the Chargers out there with hardball, but we do a lot of PB and j's to do anything that has a high nutritional value to give energy. You know, some kids just really don't want to eat on game day. So what we try to do is override any issues we might have with high energy protein content in shakes and snacks.

Right.

So there's there's also a lot of gummies like good gummies, right, gummies that are for the purpose of nutrition and anything that can peak their performance. We actually have a nutritional crew that will pre make and set up maybe probably about half our roster at halftime where they'll slam a shake that they pre ordered, they love, and we just want to get calories in them. So it's a it's

Coach, you fly off for your job, What kind of flyer are you? You put headphones on, you listen to music, you do work, you read, Like, what do you do on a flight?

Yeah, you know, we got a pretty long flight going out here to Oregon. So we'll actually practice Thursday morning and leave Thursday afternoon, so I'll watch Thursday's practice. I actually got it one of if you've seen them, but it's the there are glasses that you plug into your computer and then they I don't have to be looking down. I can lay back and I've had the video and it's I got to remote in my hand, I can watch that. It's just like I'm in front of a

The mood before a big game or any game.

Do you like your guys to be like right on the edge, fired up or And we've had fighters that we've talked to who will tell us they do not like to be fired up because they're not thinking as clearly that if they're calm, they're actually able to take and navigate through their thoughts. Right, And there's a fine line somewhere that's correct. Where do you stand on the psychology of that going into a game or going into a big game?

Well, I think first it's culturally based by what you do kind of throughout the year, right, Like if you try to go to uh, you know, the gate the day of the game and try to figure your crew out, you're going to have a long time coming, right. So we try to get a pulse on this we build it. I really call it that flip flop Friday. I kind of relax on Fridays because I want to put our guys at ease. I'm more comfortable, they're more comfortable, you know. We do little things like we call we'll have a

Are you ever internally so emotional? But you're able to have the thought I should not be outwardly emotional because of how we'll make others feel A react like a kicker, miss the kicker you like mother, But you've got.

To really dial it in and keep it in.

So true story. I think you evolve in time as you get older, right, you learn more from your failures than your successes. But I've always been a guy that really just believes the teaching moments are all around us. It's just a matter of what you want to teach, right, And I came full circle. I was a young coach. I'm probably in my second or third year. I've recruited a kid by the name of James I, who was a running back out of Saint Thomas Aquanas in Fort Lauerdale, Florida.

At what point in your career, coach, did you realize And I say this as someone who my high school football coach, I didn't have a dad, was a big part of my understanding of discipline, right, Like, because I had no mal influence, I had no one.

At what point in your career did you realize that you were going to be that?

And that was a real responsibility for a lot of these kids.

It's a great point. I say it all the time. We do a little presentation when I have a kid come in my office that we've offered a scholarship to or a visit. We talk about a timeline on this earth. Right, we all start at zero and average age goes to seventy two. Hopefully we all go beyond that. But we

Right.

And because of that, I'm going to at times sound like a parent. I'm going to at times tell you things you don't want to hear, right, And I would tell you the more I tell you things, especially if you don't agree with them, it's because I love you, not because I hate you. Too many people in this world, like try to tell them the things they want to hear and avoid to the things they need to hear. So I think that's a really big part of coaching is you're going to sound like a parent a lot.

All right, coach, good luck, We love you, buddy, take care.

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Now onto Kansas State head coach Chris Clemon, which we've had on a few times. We got to go hang out with him in his office. That's pretty cool. I think on his birthday too, it was, oh, yeah, we're like, happy birthday, you get us right, Happy birthday. That's funny.

Uh so.

And he also let us work out with Cooper bb And, who.

Is now a Dallas cowboy.

Yeah, and you'd have a problem with it because I knew he he probably knew we wouldn't hurt Cooper BB. Yeah, of course, like these idiots, but yeah, I know Kansas State like Perennial in the mix. Now, we love Coach Climbing. And here's our talk with him. His dad was a coach. We talked about that a bunch two with him in the full interview. So here he is from Kansas State. Here is coach Chris Climbing. Hey, coach, good to see you. Thank you for the time. How you doing, Hey, pretty good.

You keep up with Cooper at all with Cowboys.

Absolutely, he's come back for at least two games, but no, probably weekly. We send a text back and forth. Super proud of him being the starting center in the NFL.

Man crazy too because and Cooper and I follow each other on Instagram since then, and when he was drafted, obviously, super pumped for him. But the transition, and maybe you could add a little of this, the transition because he did not play center for you, but now he's playing center with the Cowboys. How hard is that to do on the offensive line?

It's really hard. But the fact that he played all four positions, but that I think lent himself to understanding all the positions and knew that he could because he was the guy that communicated all of our checks and adjustments and IDs and stuff. Anyway, and all along when he was here and continue to get better and better, people kept asking us, do you think he can be a center? Do you think he can be a center? Well, yeah, we did from a mental side of things. Now from

So teams were reaching out to you to ask if they if you thought, like his mental capacity was that of a center. Some more so, was it his size? Like why were teams looking at him as a center.

All the fact that he's not six foot six and six ' five and stuff. He's a you know, I don't know what is he six three and a half six ' four. And they knew he would be an interior guy somewhere. And the center position is so valuable, so hard to find that when you have somebody with the acumen that he has of understanding the game and understanding defensive fronts and being able to communicate. I thought it was going to be a natural for him to

Is there ever a time with a player when you will modify a bit of how they play or what they do for the next level, even though it may not be completely advantageous to what you're doing right then.

Not completely, But I also have a responsibility to give these guys the best opportunity to have success at that next level and if it can fit with what we're doing as a team.

Yes.

Absolutely. We had a guy that actually started for the Bucks the other night named Josh Hays. He's a safety slash corner and I had him at North Zakota State and he was a corner and then we got him out of the transfer portal to come here and he assumed he was going to play corner and I said, Josh, we're going to play you safety here. A. It's going to help us be a better team, but B, I think it's going to market you better in the NFL because you're not a six foot three guy that's two

And they up getting.

Drafted maybe in the fourth or fifth round by the Bucks. And I think he's in his third year now and now he's a starter for him. But his ability to move and showcase what he could do as a safety rather than a corner helped us as a team and.

Helped him in the draft.

What's Avery Johnson like as a dude?

Gosh, A, he's awesome. He's so much fun to be around. He's the unquestioned leader on the offense, but he's very confident, has some swagger, but he's not a cocky kid. He's a guy that you know the room lights up when he comes in, but he doesn't want that, if that makes sense. He doesn't want to be the center of attention. He's just always going to be Some of it is his hair, right, He's going to be the center of

Not just about the football.

The football is just a very small part of his life.

When you look for a leader, like what are those qualities? And the leadership qualities can be very different. I mean we have them even here amongst this organization. Like what are the qualities that you see in leaders that you feel like go best with your program?

For starters that have to be able to hold themselves accountable, it's always easy to say the best player and the work ethic and his last one off the field and the first one on the field. You know, those are the things that people I think think about, but I think of it as one he's one that holds himself accountable and he's not going to talk to talk unless he can walk the walk. And we have a kid named Austin Moore that's one of our captains that epitomizes what a what a leader is and what I call

The right way.

But when you can call out the other best players and they respect you for it, that's the best sign of leadership.

I'm going to get in the weeds a little here because I respect your entire career as a coach, what you've built at every level. But I want to talk about practice tape. So you're a practice, You're doing what you do, you're ceoing, you're making sure that the macro things are done right. Do you ever get on and watch some tape and see somebody that maybe you did not know was competing at a higher level than maybe you wouldn't have caught if you didn't see it on tape.

One hundred percent. I do it every day, And not only do you do, you have to do it, but you have to recognize that individual or those individuals for

We have a neat deal that we do after wins in.

The locker room where we hand out a hammer because we talked about pounding the stone all the time. We hand out a hammer to somebody and then they get to recognize somebody, and oftentimes it's a defensive lineman that is recognizing Hey, Scout team offensive lineman so and so, or Scout team wide receiver as a defensive back. Thank you for pushing me this week, man, you made me better.

I want to ask you about your dad for a second. What do you think you've taken from him, even if you don't realize until you got older, that you had, like as a.

Coach, competitiveness and toughness not even in question. My dad's the toughest man I know. He's still at five years old. Armchair quarterback I have.

Does he text you at all? And does he use emojis?

No? No, my dad wouldn't use an emoji.

All right, Coach Sea, thank you, hey, thanks for listening. One of the really cool things about the show is we can't believe people will agree to talk to us that are like head coaches and major programs.

It's pretty amazing, pretty amazing. I know, do you think we had anything to do with getting some of those teams in there?

I really think we had maybe things to do with some of the teams not getting in there, like, if anything, we maybe hurricanes and stayed a little bit. Maybe let's not give ourself credit, but thank you for listening. Super cool. We've had some other great coaches too. You can go check out you know, any of the library here at twenty five Whistles and we hope you have a great start to.

The new year.

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