I think there's three ways that Bitcoin fixes healthcare. Number one is Bitcoin is peer-to-peer. There have been a lot of doctors who have spoken out against the system and they've had their bank accounts frozen or their funds confiscated. So we're now going to get to a point where if you like your physician, there's always a way to send them money. Number two is one of the major problems with healthcare in the US especially is that big corporations are taking over all the small clinics.
So instead of doctors actually sitting and listening to their patients and caring about them and being connected with them, they're spending their time worrying about administrators and worrying about budgets. And big businesses are currently taking over all the small businesses because they have more access to cheap credit. And that's one of the side effects of inflation is everyone's always looking for cheap credit. And the bigger corporations are it's much easier for them to take that.
So that's the second way with Bitcoin is going to destroy inflation and destroy these big corporations. And finally, I mean this is the most controversial part and I think the most important part is as you said this system exists outside the free market economy. Pharmaceutical medications are actually helpful. Why do you need to suppress all other schools of thought or other schools of medicine?
This system that's outside of the free market economy can only exist due to its proximity to the money printer. And once we get rid of the money printer, once we get rid of government actually funding these corporations like the American Medical Association that's pumping up pharmaceutical medicine, then all other healing modalities are going to be able to flourish again. And hopefully that's how Bitcoin fixes it. Greetings and salutations my fellow plebs.
My name is Walker and this is the Bitcoin podcast. The Bitcoin time chain is 881 109 and the value of one Bitcoin is still one Bitcoin. Today's episode is Bitcoin Talk where I talk with my guest about Bitcoin and whatever else comes up. And today that guest is Dr. Ahmad Amus. Dr. Amus is a doctor and he's challenging the fiat medical establishment with his goal being to get people healthy without pills from Big Pharma. He's also a Bitcoiner which makes sense since his brother is safe atine.
This was a super fascinating discussion and Dr. Amus gives a ton of actionable advice in this episode about taking control of your health. He also talks about how broken modern medicine is, how we got here and how Bitcoin might just fix this. Before we dive in, do me a favor and subscribe to the Bitcoin podcast wherever you're listening. Give it a five star rating if you feel like it and make sure to subscribe on YouTube or Rumble as well by searching at Walker America.
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I've had your brother who Bitcoiners may be more familiar with. Of course he's a fairly well-known guy I'd say at this point in the space but it's great to have you on here. Welcome to another Bitcoin podcast. Thank you Walker. Thank you for having me. And you know I've we got a chance to meet in Miami.
I guess that was two years ago now and you know it was it's fascinating too because I know you and your brother have obviously you have very similar interests in a lot of regards specifically as it comes to how fiat ruins things and Bitcoin fixes things but very different very different career paths certainly. One you know an Austrian economist one probably a hobbyist Austrian economist perhaps but have focused your life on medicine.
So can you just start out a little bit for folks that don't know you you know who are you how did you get here today to be kind of a medical doctor who is sort of bucking the establishment a little bit and looking at Bitcoin at the same time and how all of this relates money and medicine. Yeah so it's been an interesting journey. My dad is a physician. He's a surgeon and just growing up at all I wanted to do was become a doctor.
It was just my dream and I saw how he helped people and that's what I wanted to do. I just wanted to help people and I worked hard. I was top of my class in high school got a good scholarship to go to college and then made it to a good medical school. When I was in medical school I was just very disappointed by how little I was actually helping people.
And because the entire system is built on just pushing pills and unfortunately pills just never addressed the root cause they only lead to managing symptoms. And it was really really frustrating for me at that point because I've worked so hard to get there and to realize that the entire system isn't as effective as I thought it would be.
And it was at that same time when my brother was actually writing the Bitcoin standard book and we sort of went on this tangent together of understanding fiat and how fiat ruins everything. And it was also at the same time that I discovered the Paleo diet at that time and I fixed my diet and it really improved my health and I wondered oh so why doesn't the medicine that I am taught in medical school why doesn't it teach me how to improve people's
diet why is that never a consideration. And in order to answer that question I went down a deep rabbit hole to understand where how modern medicine got to the point where it is now. And I realized that the system is very corrupt and I'm hoping to just raise awareness about how it is that way. I think it's so fascinating because I mean at least for myself the Bitcoin rabbit hole opened up a lot of other rabbit holes for me. Now you were obviously already
you know you were studying medicine at this time. I can imagine that was so were you studying medicine kind of around the same time as you started exploring Bitcoin as well at the same time as you and your brother were exploring it or was that earlier on that you'd already gone through and you were kind of in the medical profession already. I was a medical student when I started studying the stuff yes. Okay wow so that's quite a confluence of different things
coming together there. From your time at medical school was there like a particular moment where you remember thinking like something's not right or was it just kind of a combination all this stuff building where you realized like this doesn't seem to be like we're not doing what we're supposed to be doing in terms of curing patients. Yeah it was we have those simulations
where they bring actual patients to present how a disease looks like. So you know they want to show you what rheumatoid arthritis which is inflammatory joint condition how it looks like. So they bring a patient and you look at the patient and I remember this woman she was in her 60s and she she was diagnosed a while ago and she's taking all the right medications and she's doing everything the doctors were telling her but still you'd ask her and I asked her how much improvement did you
get after you started these medications and she was like maybe 20 or 30 percent. It's like wow I'm gonna spend the next 11 years of my life studying so that to help people with the 20 percent improvement and that was it was a very very depressing moment of my life you know why why am I here and
that was the beginning of it. Also at the same time because of the paleo diet I was eating more fat and I was feeling a lot better with eating more fat and I went down questioning why is my medical teaching me telling me that cholesterol is bad and both of these following both of these I realized
that the store I the story is a lot runs a lot deeper than that. I think it's so interesting just like I was curious today I hadn't looked at like what the food pyramid you know that is in a while you know how much has it been been updated and I found one today that I guess is the you can confirm but I believe is the standard food pyramid now I think it was put out by Harvard I'll throw it up on the screen it's or the healthy eating pyramid they call it now from the Department of Nutrition
Harvard School of Public Health and what blew my mind about this is that like you look and it's somewhat improved perhaps from the older versions of this food pyramid but you look at it and this little tiny you know tiny little area at the top you know is where you're supposed to use sparingly you know your red meat and butter and and these things and it just it just seems so ridiculous to me and knowing just what has worked with my own diet I mean my our family eats a lot of red meat
and eggs and butter and those are the things that tend to make us feel the best but it's just it's so funny that like even if you you know if you go to or I should say when you go to the you know trusted sources on these things if that's all you're exposed to you're honestly just getting pretty bad information like I would guess that you would not view this pyramid as a quote healthy eating if you were to redo it yourself is that fair to say yeah I mean this this pyramid is a scam
it's a scam to get you to buy a proset plant foods and to get you sick and dependent on medications that's just the only way to look at it it's so far removed from what the diet of our ancestors 200 years ago or 2000 years ago eight that it's and you see the results I see it every day in my patients in the hospital because most of them they try and follow this and they end up in more trouble it's you had a you had a great tweet recently I'm trying to see if I can find it
it was oh where was it was something about like you know Homo sapiens 200 000 years like bread 10 000 years seed oils 100 and then blue led light 20 years and I thought that was just such a an interesting point to make it's like we've been we've been around for quite a while now you you know Homo sapiens not so long in the grand universal scheme of things but quite a while we've eaten and engaged in certain types of activities for most of that time and it's only
been very very recently that we've started to diverge from that or had things thrown in new externalities that are pushed forward as good or improvements or you know this is this is modern science you know making you better when in reality we have no idea of the long-term consequences of many of these things that are thrown in front of us and even the short-term consequences already are looking quite dark like I know you've also been very vocal about about light and sunlight
explosion I want to get into that but I mean maybe a another good place to start is just kind of you know how did we get here to this point in modern medicine today how did we diverge so far from traditional medicine from traditional ways that humans have lived for a very long time quite successfully in most cases what was kind of the beginning of the end for let's say traditional medicine in the
rise of this medical establishment yeah I think I mean your viewers who are bitcoiners will understand that it all started around the time of the creation of the Federal Reserve so early 1910s this was the time when government went from the role of its role was just the protection of people's property to government is the one that's going to make sure that you live a good life that was the marketing
of it but in reality it was just a scheme to keep the people in control and give them even more control so in in 1903 the American Medical Association was started and its goal was the standardization of medical education so that you know we want to get rid of the quacks that was the marketing for it and then if in 1910 the Flexner report was published uh Flexner was a guy who was closely affiliated with the Rockefellers and his report uh said that any medical school that teaches anything
different than pharmaceutical based medicine we're gonna consider this quackery and we're gonna close all these medical schools so half of the u.s. medical schools at that time were closed down and these were the schools that were teaching naturopathy homeopathy a lot of osteopathic school and chiropractor schools and all these specialties they considered the human being in relationship to nature not in isolation from nature but then once we moved in the night
early 1910s to pharmaceutical based medicine the human being was just a collection of biochemical pathways and we're gonna try and isolate where in this pathway can we give a drug to change this pathway and that's gonna be the way to get people better so the the entire motto of it was let's isolate compounds from the ground which is all of these are pharmaceutical products based on petroleum and we're gonna use them to target biochemical pathways in the body which is an insane
idea and okay so this is a new field that you've discovered if if you believe that this field is gonna be the future why do you need to suppress all the other fields that were there before that's the that's the strongest question it blows my mind that there are bitcoiners out there who are not on noster yet seriously what are you doing just like you should take control of your health and your money you should take control of your social media as well and you shouldn't need to
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five percent off but you also help support this podcast so thank you it's it's one of those things where it's like if you if your ideas are good if your arguments are strong they should be able to compete and survive in a free market of ideas right this is you shouldn't be worried about you know the quacks out there because if you're right the quacks will be easily disproven and the market will decide that yes in fact this new pharmaceutical based medicine is far superior but anytime that you
need to kind of suppress or get rid of you know push to the fringes any sort of competition it's generally a pretty good indication that perhaps your ideas or your product is not as good as you are claiming that it is it's kind of a one of the biggest sort of red flags so I mean as we've I think for a lot of people myself included the COVID times were a big wake-up call in terms of just how sort of pernicious this medical establishment is but it that it's not
just this one you know it's not just one organization one group anymore it's it's so pervasive throughout so much of of our society it's you know it goes to the insurance companies yes of course it's you know it's big pharma but then that's also all the grant money that they're given you know all it's the NIH it's the world health organization it's all these different tentacles going out in different directions to try to control public opinion and then to shift public opinion towards whatever
is going to make the pharmaceutical giants the most money at least that's what it seems and then you also see that like through the the horrific opioid crisis in the United States you know I believe it is the Sackler family and Purdue pharma right they paid something like a a four billion dollar you know fine ultimately but nobody ends up in jail for all the untold misery caused all the lives lost all the downstream effects of that nobody really gets in any sort of
trouble at all except paying you know what sounds to you and I like a massive amount of money but to a family like the Sacklers that's the cost of doing business right and so it just you get to this point and I think a lot of people did where the distrust of the establishment whether that's the medical establishment or the political establishment gets so high that you start to kind of look for other answers you start to you know do your own research which of course they will tell
you is just sort of you know that's quackery also right you can't do your own research you need an expert so I'm curious you know kind of in in your own research as you were doing it for yourself going outside of what you were taught in medical school outside of the establishment what were some of the most just sort of eye-opening things for you where you said like wow this is maybe something that is far worse than you thought but maybe also other areas where you thought wow there's
really an opportunity here or there's you know there's some cutting-edge stuff that's being suppressed or some traditional stuff that's being suppressed what really like opened your eyes more as you've gone down this rabbit hole yeah I mean the the most striking thing which like eventually it took me some years to realize but just how toxic pharmaceutical products are there's it's estimated that roughly every year 200 000 Americans die from medications and
half of these deaths are medications that are taking as prescribed and so most of these drugs they're tested for only a few years but they're prescribed for a lifetime and they're never tested in combination with other drugs but most Americans are on multiple medications so the interaction between various medications is just it's an absolute mess and no doctor knows what's gonna cause this and we don't identify it as it's caused by medications we just see this patient getting
worse and dying from something but nobody attributes it to medication but if you if you start to connect the dots you see oh this patient's decline started after he was put on this medication and so that was very eye-opening for me so I am I'm I generally say I'm against all of pharmaceutical products I'm not afraid to say that what what gives me hope is how powerful just some dietary modification can be and how powerful is controlling your light environment so these two things I think
there's so much potential in their healing effect and I see it with my own patients just simple things simple things to avoid in your diets that simple things to add sun exposure minimizing blue light it's has such a huge potential and it's it just makes you realize that the human body is quite incredible and quite tenacious and quite capable of healing itself and so that that gives me hope let's talk a little bit about the sun exposure side of things because
I love the sun the sun it gives us warmth and light and I don't know about you but I would hazard a guess that when you're outside in the sun you just feel better like it is a Stephen Lubke came on here and one of the things he said I was just asking about like what do you think happiness is and he's like happiness is literally the sun like this that is as close as we can get to describing what happiness is can you talk a little bit about maybe the benefits of sun exposure and also some of the
myths that have sort of been pushed about you know you need to stay out of the sun like this you know the sun is the sun is bad the sun will give you cancer avoided at all costs lather up in sunscreen what are the benefits and what are kind of the the myths negative myths that are out there yeah I mean this was a very deep rabbit hole and I'm glad I I discovered it because the power of the sun is just are just incredible the only thing I was taught in medical school is that
the sun is bad for your skin and the sun is bad for your eyes when they talk about the skin they say that the sun increases your risk of skin cancer but if you actually look at the data there are two types of skin cancer there's melanoma and non melanoma the melanoma one is the one that's more serious and the one that can metastasize and can kill people this more than 70% of cases are in areas that don't see the sun so usually areas that are closed or so the sun does not increase your melanoma
risk so that's the first one and then the other ones the non melanoma cancers which are the squamous cell type these ones the sun does increase your risk of getting them but these ones are not they're not metastasized they just they just don't look good on your skin and what increases the risk of getting these is not sun exposure per se but getting sunburn and we now we spend so much time inside that we've lost our ability to be in the sun in a healthy way and that's why a lot of
people get sunburned and they get these complications yeah go ahead oh yeah we're just gonna say when you say you know be in the sun in a healthy way does that mean you know morning light exposure does it like what what does that entail so that you know I assume it doesn't mean spending all day inside a cubicle in an office and then going on vacation to Mexico and frying your body you know sitting directly under the sun for seven straight days that that would probably be a not great way
to get sun exposure exactly I mean that that's how you get certain sunburned and that's how you skin age so the the rays the wavelengths of light that we get from the sun changed during the day in the beginning of the day we get a lot more of the red and near infrared rays and the same is towards sunset so in the morning the the red and in green near infrared they help charge your mitochondria and they help develop this melanin which is the pigment that protects you from the real
very powerful UV light so the the UV light the ultraviolet light is the one that can cause skin aging and skin burns so if you start by getting more of the morning sunshine you're able to build this callus gradually so that you you're able to increase your exposure closer to noon where when the UV is highest so I mean also depending on your genetics and the color of your skin you're not you're not gonna be able to sit in the sun at noon straight away coming off from you know New York
City going into Mexico City but if you if you start off by being in the morning sun to start with and you gradually build your callus you'll be able to and of course we all have limits even people who live outside traditional tribes they try to avoid the sun at the highest peak so it's that point when you want to sit in the shade and stuff and then you know in terms of what the medical establishment has sort of pushed these narratives that they've pushed I mean is does a lot of it like obviously
they show data right that says look see UV exposure is causing cancer but correct me if I'm wrong but aren't a lot of these studies that they've done like under very unnatural laboratory conditions where they're basically bombarding cell tissue with concentrated UV like it doesn't seem to actually be a realistic test of what the effects of UV actually are is that fair yeah I mean when we when I'm in medical when I'm in medical school I was taught that the sun is bad for you
it's not like they show us any studies it's just it's just got them at all and it's the same thing as telling us meat is bad for you it's just this is the the talk of the town and we just go with it but I mean thankfully I got to the point where I examined everything they taught me and I realized that that's just another scam and I mean so as far as sunscreen goes because I think a lot of people maybe would say okay well sure maybe the sun's not as bad as they say but you know you should
still wear sunscreen are there actual like what are your thoughts on this like is this something that actually helps people or is this something you know actually a negative externality when it comes to your health yeah I mean so sunscreen blocks UV light from entering your t-tissue entering your skin and you need UV light UV light is very good for your skin for the rest of your body for your metabolism so that's one side of the equation but again also you don't want to
overdo it with UV so that you don't get sunburn the problem is that traditional the traditional sunscreen that you get in CVS it's all made with very indocrine active compounds which means they work on your hormonal system and affect your hormonal system so they've been shown to affect hormones levels in people they they've been found to increase your risk because they work on your estrogen and testosterone receptors so they're they're quite toxic if someone is in need
so say if you are in New York City and you want to go to Mexico and spend a week on the beach there are natural made sunscreen that can be helpful there some of the components are it's based on tallow or zinc oxide so these are safe compounds that you can put on and it's definitely a better alternative to our traditional sunscreen but if you live in a sunny place you want to get to the point where you're not needing sunscreen where you have such a good relationship with the
sun and you have a good sun callus because that melanin that you develop on your skin is very good for you that melanin is a sign that you are your mitochondria are well charged and well energized it's funny i my mom will always talk about how you know growing up parents and kids alike would just be uh you know especially during the the summer and depending on where you live that may be the time where you're able to get the most sun uh but you know she would talk about how they were
always outside all the time nobody was really wearing sunscreen uh they're also you know maybe this is of course just anecdotal but you know weren't people just getting skin cancer all the time everybody was very more naturally tan naturally more dark and and it just wasn't something that they were you know that anyone was really concerned about it was good to be out in the sun and it seems that as you kind of hinted at earlier and i was looking at this data as well as the doctors started
recommending more sunscreen kind of starting in the 50s but then really in the 60s and 70s the you would expect if you're if the sunscreen worked as advertised that you would have less instances of skin cancer but you saw the exact opposite you saw multiples more times of skin cancer developing during that time so i mean of course there were other factors as well that maybe we can maybe that's a good bridge into kind of seed oils but i mean to me it just seems so ridiculous
that anyone could try to claim that there is good evidence that sunscreen prevents you from getting skin cancer when at a large scale the exact opposite effect has been observed yeah also the issue with sunscreen is also it gives people the security to just go and sit in the sun for a long period of times and that can cause them to get sunburned also so okay okay so i mean that makes it as it relates to seed oils i mean i've seen a lot of anecdotal evidence online about you know people
you know quitting seed oils maybe they had a quite high you know seed oil content in their diet before and find that they're not getting burned as much i wasn't eating a ton of seed oils before but have basically you know cut them out now since kind of getting seed oil piled but is that something that you think that there is kind of legitimate evidence for that not having seed oils like getting more natural fats animal fats is much better when it comes to your body tolerating and being
welcoming of the sun's rays yeah there's not a ton of data on this but there's a lot of people who and kittoth and kittoth evidence uh what one study suggested is uh seed oils they have altered the the cell membranes of your cells uh they they replace the fats that are naturally saturated with unsaturated fats that make your membranes more permeable more prone to damage from heat from the sun and so that's probably the mechanism why your skin becomes more sensitive with the
with the addition of seed oils can we can we go a little bit deeper into seed oils too just because i think this is just it's such a very fiat thing like you saw seed oils become much more prevalent especially you know corn oil when we overproduced a lot of corn during nixon's time because corn was heavily subsidized and who knew that created a market distortion there was way too much corn so what are you going to do with all of it and we found out you could take these industrial
lubricants and you could actually put them in food uh what what should people know about seed oils in terms of you know consuming them uh besides uh potential consequences for the sun what what else is this doing to your body why is this such a a bad thing yeah so i mean seed seed oils are a scam uh they're very easy to they're very easy to mass manufacture and they are they're basically the waste products of other other industries that we can discover that oh we can
just treat them with high heat and we'll be able to feed them to people uh grains as they are seeds seeds don't want to be eaten the the fats that the seed stores in it it wants it use it to propagate its progeny it doesn't want you to eat it so it stores it with in a lot in a large matrix in a lot of compounds to try and make extracting it very difficult in order to extract it you need very very high heat but when you do that uh you are destabilizing these fats and they become rancid
and in order to fix that they have to deodorize it a lot and neutralize it with a lot of chemicals and that's what the product that we end up eating unfortunately there was a lot of because there's so much so much margins to make from this sludge that they sell us there was a lot heavy marketing campaigns to make it seem that it's the next uh healthiest thing and at the same time they use the entire push against animal fats to try and demonize animal fat so that people eat more of
this industrial sludge and yeah again the the main issue with that is it causes damage to your cell membranes you the entire your entire integrity of the cells in your body depends on having proper barriers proper membranes because this is what enables you to maintain electric currents and this is what enables your neurons to function this is what enables your heart to function and once these membranes start getting leaky when they're replaced by a defective fat
then your entire ability to generate energy in the body is compromised and so the damage that that can cause it can damage everywhere in the body it can damage your liver it can damage the skin can damage the brain it can damage the heart and we do see this with with people who do eat a lot of seed oil it's just kind of such a it's such a dark thing when you think about it this is what's been basically at least in america i think it's less less ubiquitous in other places in the world
or where they don't actually allow this to be fed to you know to human beings which is kind of insane that in america apparently that's just it's just totally fine you know it's approved by the FDA and all of that but i mean you you mentioned that you had gone you'd gone paleo uh during your medical training i think you you tried carnivore for a little while are you are you full carnivore now or or something close to it yeah i i did carnivore for two years uh at the beginning of it i felt
very good but uh it just didn't sit well with me eventually uh i started losing a lot out of weight my digestion really suffered so and since then i've i've kind of gone on to similar path to paul saladino where i introduced a little bit more fruit and maybe some potatoes some sweet potatoes and and i've felt a lot better so my diet currently is very meat best meat heavy but with some some starches some carbs on the side in the form of fruit usually and you've found that to be
generally much more at least for you know everybody's different but for for you personally that's worked a bit better than the full you know 100 percent let's say yes uh i and i've heard similar stories from other people where they feel better with with the elimination of all plant foods at the beginning but then i mean once once your leaky gut is healed once all the insulin resistance is resolved you'll be able to tolerate a little bit more of plant material okay it's good to know
because i believe your brother is still he's been full carnivore for like eight eight years wow wow that's impressive this is an off-topic question but are you a stainless steel or cast iron pan kind of guy uh i yeah i i think it's uh i'll have to go with my brother on this one so okay okay i i won't i mean sure i do like a good stainless steel pan but if i had to choose i've got to go with the cast iron but we'll we'll have to uh we'll have to agree to disagree there i'm i'm
curious uh just this gets slightly back to the sun a little bit but just in terms of kind of uh overall health you know it reminds me it takes me back to during covid one of the craziest things to me was that the advice that they were giving of you know stay inside you know don't you know they were closing down parks they're closing on public places they were closing down beaches for christ's sake uh where people you know could go out and get fresh air and where there turns out
there was no risk of them uh contracting this virus because they were in open blowing air they were basically doing as much as they could probably i mean maybe not on purpose but just because of how terrible the policies were to prevent people from getting sunshine to prevent people from getting natural vitamin d can you talk a little bit about because i know there's been a lot of studies about vitamin d essentially or i should say vitamin d levels being linked to all
sorts of different diseases from like diabetes to depression heart disease autoimmune disorders even just with covid your ability to fight off this this virus can you talk about vitamin d a little bit and just how you know whether taking does taking a supplement vitamin d does it get you part of the way there or is there any way to get that true vitamin d that naturally occurring without just getting that sun exposure yeah i mean the vitamin d is very important because
it's used as it's used in the cholesterol synthesis mechanism and you need cholesterol in order to synthesize all the hormones in your body so vitamin d basically affects every function in the body and most people are deficient because we spend so much time indoors and also because we don't eat the foods that naturally contain vitamin d which are fatty meat organ meats eggs fish so i'm generally not a big fan of supplementation if you are in an environment where you are unable to
get the sun for a long time say your job dictates it or stuff maybe that's an indication but my general advice is try and spend as much time outdoors as possible because the benefits of the sun are a lot more than just vitamin d uh you need vitamin the way to think about light is just like your body breaks down food it breaks down food into electrons and these are the electrons that reach your mitochondria so your mitochondria does not see glucose protein or amino acids it
sees electrons light sunlight is electrons that's its energy it's electrons so your mitochondria and your cells can use sunlight directly to make energy and this is far more powerful than what a vitamin d supplement can give you and your body is able to do that even if you just go outside and expose your your eyes to the sun it doesn't have to be your entire skin and so as much time outside regardless of how cold the temperature is is is something i think an absolute necessity
i saw you had uh you tweeted i think the other day about just uh cold exposure or like seasonal cold exposure that the human body wasn't meant to just be in a you know constant you know five degree temperature range basically all the time can you talk about that a little bit in art is uh like cold plunging became very popular recently is that something that you you personally do or would recommend or are you more of the just get exposure to the natural changes of the seasons
the natural fluctuations in the temperature yeah i think it's it's a problem that we spend so much time indoors and everything is heated uh just like your mitochondria can use sun energy uh uh to power you without food your mitochondria are able to use the cold as well to generate energy so we see with a lot of cultures that don't have that much sun in the winter they they do a lot of cold exposure or even also infrared sauna all this stuff also charges your mitochondria uh the the flip
side of that is a lot of cold exposure a lot of these cold plunges or cold chowers it's kind of a stress on your adrenals it's it it reases a lot of stress hormones and so that makes you feel good at the beginning with the cold chowers but eventually i mean most people right now they live under too much stress rather than the opposite uh you know with with a lot of blue light with a lot of people chasing around for their jobs and stuff the system doesn't need more stresses the system
needs less so there needs to be a fine balance about how much cold exposure you need uh for me personally i mean i have a stressful job and i have other stresses in my life uh i find that at the beginning of the winter i have to go maybe through an entire week where i'm having daily cold showers it's kind of like a an initiation for my body that okay we're here in the winter and your biology is is quite intelligent in that all your function in the body shift
depending on what season it is and that's kind of a good signal for your metabolism for your entire metabolism to be up to date with what the climate is at that point you uh you mentioned blue light as well can you talk a little bit about that specifically obviously you know the positive side of the light is is natural sun exposure but blue light is is obviously a something we are all surrounded with uh you know bombarded by constantly can you talk
about just what are the effects of that and and what can people do to sort of mitigate that exposure yeah so blue light blue led lamps have only been invented only 20 years ago and they they work on on the sun or a an incandescent light bulb works on combustion which is heat energy uh led lamps work on electron transfer and that's so they transfer an electron out of an element and then when it goes back it releases light this blue light spectrum that comes out from led lamps
is only blue know nothing else from the spectrum of light this sequence of light of blue light does not exist in isolation in nature so we have never been our biology has never been exposed to just pure blue light on its own and the problem with that is blue light is quite intense in its energy and it it when it comes alone on the on your cells it causes oxidative damage to your cells that's usually with its if it's blue light from the sun it's usually neutralized by red and near
infrared light but if you're getting it on its own then you're only getting the damaging part and so this is the light that we are in 24 seven basically these days uh that that's the the problem of being under artificial light during the day the problem with it during the night is that it also starts to affect your circadian rhythm so your body uses blue light as a marker of when the sun is out uh because the sun has blue light and that was the only source of blue light we had in nature
now if you're getting blue light after sunset your body still perceives it as if the sun and all the processes that the body initiates in order to prepare you to go to bed these are delayed when you're exposed to blue light so a main compound in that is melatonin and melatonin is not only necessary for you to go to sleep it's also necessary for a lot of cleansing function in the body anti-inflammatory function anti-cancer functions so you want to start generating melatonin as soon
as after sunset as possible and blue light is is ruining that so you get to bed you don't have enough melatonin to go to bed deeply and you also don't have enough melatonin to recover from the day that you had before and so that's the problem with blue light it's you know i i appreciate it and i hope you don't mind me kind of just bombarding you with some of these questions but i think these are things
that people really they're they're great because it's really actionable stuff that you can do like there's there's steps that you can take without needing to go to a doctor with you know nothing against you doctor but you know let's say other doctors without needing to get a prescription without needing to get a consultation you can just make these changes in your life in a very easy way and most of them don't don't really cost you anything either you know to to live by more natural
cycles to to try and eat better that might cost you a little bit more but it'll certainly save you on your medical bills and everything else and and one of the things i wanted to to kind of take a step back with is just to talk a little bit more about sort of the the medical industry because i shared with you just briefly before before this call it an experience that my wife carl and i had had earlier or last year i guess it was our son's just a year old now he was only a few months old
this time he had a hemangioma which is you know are fairly fairly common but his became a little bit ulcerated and we went to the the the doctor and you know as a dermatologist specialist that we had to be you know referred to of course and what they said was oh okay well for for these what we do is we prescribe propanolol which is a heavy-duty beta blocker for a period of two years and we're sitting there thinking geez like he's a few months old like you want to put our infant son on on a
beta blocker for two years so we said okay thank you very much for the advice you know we'll we'll think about it um think about it meant we got home and started doing our own research carla found a couple of studies from Greece i think where they'd found incredible results treating ulcerated hemangiomas with medical grade honey and so we ended up calling the the doctor again and saying you know is is medical grade honey something that we could use for this and she said oh yeah you know
you could do that too and we said well why didn't you why didn't you bring this up to us when we asked you if there were any other treatment options besides putting him on hardcore beta blocker drugs for two years and she says well it's just you know this is what we do basically and i i just thought this was such a a telling experience because even though the doctor was aware that alternate more traditional forms of medicine like honey which has been used in medicine for you know thousands of
years even though that was available and she knew about it that's not it wasn't even brought up in our conversation we had to do our own research and find it out long story short we used the medical grade honey it cleared up the ulcerations in a few weeks time and he was never on any sort of drugs for this so like we're very you know grateful that we did our own research on this but it just makes you realize that little experience you know we're both blessed enough to have been fairly healthy
throughout our lives haven't had a lot of doctors trying to put us on too much stuff but for a lot of people they are constantly being having things shoved in their face by doctors and so you know why is it i guess that like the first defaults of doctors of modern you know modern medicine seems to be put them on pharmaceuticals put them on drugs don't don't even try any any traditional or quack methods just just put them right on drugs and then you know we'll check in
in a couple of years and see how those hardcore drugs are doing what like why isn't there any bit of like questioning of hey maybe we should try something a little less severe than putting a infant on beta blockers it's just crazy to me yeah i mean the the the simple answer for this is because it's because the system is captured there there's just no other way to look at it as i described i mean anything any natural medicine was suppressed so it's gone away from medical
education anything that has to do with lifestyle or herbals or natural treatments we are not taught about it as doctors and then the other part of this is medical guidelines which dictate how doctors need to practice if you don't follow medical guidelines you are technically at fault because you're not doing the standard of care and these medical guidelines are basically written by people who get their salary from pharmaceutical companies yeah so say for example the american
college of cardiology if you look at their website their list of sponsors it's all pharmaceutical companies and the the head director of the american core of cardiology is someone who you know does studies that pharmaceutical companies fund and they give him hundreds of thousands of dollars and they get to dictate that the the guidelines for how physicians practice and say your physician was someone who likes to read uh alternative stuff and she looks into honey
and wants to prescribe that for her patients she's technically in violation of the guidelines if she does that and she's legally liable so basically but if they are if they just follow the guidelines if they just do what they're you know supposed to do of what they're being told from above they're not legally liable for anything that happens even if something something bad were to happen if the you know heaven forbid a patient were to die as long as they follow the course of
action that is dictated to them from above they're okay basically from a legal culpability perspective yes so if the beta blocker if you get harm from the beta blocker and you sue the doctor they they did the standard of care so they're not at fault but if you sue them for the honey then then they're in trouble so that's kind of i mean it's basically the incentive structure is such where there is a negative incentive for trying anything that even though it may help the patient
is not in your list of we do this then this then this but hey the easy solution is do exactly what is you know given to you from above what your dictate is and if you do that you can't be sued you can't get any trouble doesn't matter what happens to the patient you'll be fine is that essentially when it comes down to yes and with with something like propanolol it's i mean it is a medication and it's it's pretty criminal to put it on a child but there are a lot a lot more serious medications that
patients are put on and they got a lot more harm out of them and it's still you're just following the standard of care and the doctor is not at fault of for doing that and it's it's such a it's such a prevalent thing for example to put someone on statins cholesterol medications just if your cholesterol number is higher than this you need to be on this medication even if you don't have any symptoms even if you've never had any heart issues any stroke issues and then the
complications happening later after they put the person on statin the doctors are just so used to seeing this progression that they never blame it on the statin but if you actually just take a step back like i do and take a look at the bigger picture you start to realize that statins are just the gateway drug to get people into hooked on other pharmaceutical medications and it's just and it's just a never-ending cycle and from one medication to another and patients only getting
worse and worse with regard to statin specifically because i feel like there's been more uh more people have been talking about this kind of more vocally of late or maybe i just started paying attention to the conversation more so of late but can you talk a little bit about just like what some of those negative effects are that you were mentioning like especially for somebody who maybe okay they're you know they have a bad cholesterol number that's outside of the the
range that is dictated from above so okay what do we do we put them on statins because that's our course of treatment but what what does that result in for a lot of people like it does it actually fix the problem that they have or is it your on statins for the rest of your life and there's also other things now you need to worry about yeah so cholesterol is a very big scam in that it was it was like a two-way party that was pushing it forward one is the anti-neat uh pro
seed oil pro sugar industry which was you know trying to make money off of selling you stuff that's processed food so they were pushing the agenda that meat and fat are good for you at the other at the other end there was also the pharmaceutical industry who was trying to push for this was the first time in history where you would give someone a medication just based on their lab levels even if there's nothing wrong with them and it was a very very powerful marketing technique
because it was the highest selling drug in history statins and in order to understand the enormity of the problem you have to realize that statins originally were a it's a fungal toxin that's how they discovered them they discovered that a certain fungi when they when they affect rats they lower their cholesterol levels and so they looked at what toxin they were releasing and that was how statins were invented so you are people are literally taking a poison and what
that poison does it it affects this pathway in the body called the malabonate pathway and this pathway is one of the most important pathways for your cells to generate energy so you are effectively depriving your cells of energy by putting people on statins and the the complications of it are just quite terrifying and they can affect the brain they affect the heart they affect the liver they affect circulation they affect kidneys the one of the scariest things that I've seen
is just the dementia that they they can cause I've seen patients who were put on a statin and a week later the family is like we can't talk to him anymore he doesn't know where he is and I just stopped the statin and the next day the patient's back to where they used to be and it's absolutely insane you're basically depriving your your brain from generating energy there was a there was a famous book called Lipitor the memory thief Lipitor is one of the statins and it was a story
about a pilot who did a random blood test and they told him your cholesterol was high so they put him on a statin and then his wife was starting to tell him you seem forgetful what's going on with you what has changed for you and he didn't know what's going on then they made the connection that it was the statin he stops the statin immediately feels better goes back to his physician in his airline that tells him no you need to go back on the statin because your cholesterol is high
and that's dangerous and again he loses his memory again it's it's it's it's just very obvious right I mean is there amongst the medical establishment is there any acknowledgement of of this now or is it still just kind of like well you know maybe there are some unrelated factors that are causing this you know this early onset to mention memory loss like is there or is there any actual acknowledgement that these statins are are having this this negative effect unfortunately so pharmaceutical
companies they they do a good job of publishing the side effects that they want to publish so all these major side effects they're ignored by the studies that originally came out against statins about statins and so they published that the major side effect is say muscle soreness or muscle aches which is a very common side effect for statins so all physicians just fixate on that and they forget all the other serious stuff and no I don't hear people talking about it they just
say if you're not getting muscle muscle pains then you're fine I mean it's it's one of those things I guess where it's just so ingrained in the the culture at this point of the medical establishment to not like you know you're not incentivized to ask questions or to question the narrative right you're incentivized to just as you said before even from a legal perspective to just do what you're told something goes wrong well it's not your fault because you followed the procedure
and I'm you know at risk of sounding cliched does does bitcoin fix this in any way how does does does fixing the money fix any of these incentives among the medical you know kind of the medical establishment the pharmaceutical industry is there is there any any hope for us I guess from the the top down perspective I think there is the first I think there's three ways that bitcoin fixes healthcare number one is bitcoin is peer-to-peer there have been a lot of
doctors who have spoken out against the system and they've had their bank accounts frozen or their funds confiscated so we're now going to get to a point where if you like your physician there's always a way to send them money so that's a good step and first step in the right direction number two is one of the major problems with healthcare in the US especially is that big corporations are taking over all the small clinics so instead of doctors actually sitting
and listening to their patients and caring about them and being connected with them they're spending their time worrying about administrators and worrying about budgets and and the big businesses are currently taking over all the small businesses is because they have more access to cheap credit and that's one of the side effects of inflation is everyone's always looking for cheap credit and the bigger corporations are it's much easier for them to take that so that's the second way
with bitcoin is gonna destroy inflation and destroy these big corporations and finally I mean this is the the most controversial part and I think the most the most important part is as you said this system exists outside the free market economy if if pharmaceutical medications are actually helpful why do you need to suppress all other schools of thought or other schools of medicine this system that's outside of the free market economy can only exist due to its proximity to
the money printer and once we get rid of the money printer once we get rid of government actually funding these corporations like the medical medical association that's pumping up pharmaceutical medicine then all other healing modalities are going to be able to flourish again and hopefully that's how bitcoin fixes it honestly that's a it's a great answer and that gives me a little bit of a little bit of hope for the future I mean free market competition is always a good thing
right and I think it's great to see some especially just amongst people I've seen in the bitcoin community there's a lot of movements towards you know decentralized health and you know even decentralized insurance options let's say that are that are outside the typical establishment you know crowdfunding and sure that crowd health is that one right that's yeah like it's great to see that kind of stuff and I think also as we just you know fiat money has led to big government to you
know big medicine to to big everything right it's it's going to be heartening to see a little bit of a transition back to smaller more localized more more personal sorts of changes in these things I'm kind of curious too I've got just a few items that you know I've kind of come up just generally in my timeline lately that I wanted to kind of run past you and just see see where you're at with them the first one being Brian Johnson and his whole don't die you know movement can you
talk about that where are you at with that with his specific you know I mean I know he does not like the sun I don't believe or red meat as far as I know what what's what are your thoughts on his you know don't die blueprint yeah I mean it's it's quite an ingenious marketing campaign but it's not an ingenious way to not die so I'll tell you that it's it's quite impressive like he's he's having a conference now they're they're publicizing for it and like the sponsors for this
conference are some of the like the most expensive medical treatments out there so he's basically trying to convince people that this is the way that you don't die where you need a you know a $3,000 injection or IV or light therapy or etc and it's it's it's quite impressive how he's doing it the core of his philosophy though is absolutely wrong because he follows a vegan diet and if you follow any of the traditional uh traditional diets say the work of western price so western price
was a dentist who in the early 1900s uh he's a canadian dentist this was a time when the early 1900s when people started saying that vegan vegetarian diet is the ultimate human diet and it's the healthiest diet there is so western price this was before a commercial uh flying was so prevalent he went and flew all over the world looking for societies that haven't been touched by mother in this industrialization and he just examined their dietary habits and none of these
cultures without exclusion was vegan or vegetarian is in fact all of them relied on a meat and fat staple some sort of animal food so if you look at our ancestors look at the our the diet that we were we we evolved to eat nobody's ever been vegan or vegetarian so he's definitely putting himself at a disadvantage with that probably the lack of sunlight uh doesn't doesn't entirely help things either uh yeah it's it certainly is good marketing uh from his perspective i guess you know you've
got to give him that but yeah there there's uh i don't know i guess we'll see if he uh if he dies or not uh that'll be that'll be maybe maybe he doesn't die uh who can who can say um so another thing is just uh about like uh ivermectin was something that was really became very controversial during covid uh because you know if joe rogan started talking about it and then all of a sudden all the mainstream media and the medical establishment is saying joe rogan's trying to get people to
take horse dewarmer like ha ha what an idiot you know and you're an idiot if you think like him can you talk about ivermectin at all and maybe what the uh the medical establishment is uh not saying as far as what its potential benefits are or if there are potential benefits yeah i mean uh ivermectin during covid ivermectin works as like it's also a anti parasitic agent but it also has anti inflammatory properties and that's why he was helping covid patients because covid was a state
of just hyper inflammation and there was a lot of physicians that were using it and getting good results from it and the world was coming out that oh maybe we do have a cure for covid the problem with having a cure for covid is that that would prevent the emergency use authorization for the injections to go through so there was definitely incentives for that word to not go out uh and i mean it's a big deal it was you know these pharmaceutical companies made a lot of money
because of this if the if yeah if if any pill would have worked as a cure then they couldn't have legally put put it on the market as emergency use so that's where the incentives speak i mean with regards to people currently saying that it's you know a cure for cancer or uh a magic cure for everything i'm a little bit more hesitant about that i haven't done that much research about it but in general something like cancer i'm hesitant to just always say like a pill is never
going to be the answer for something for a disease like that on the note of cancer there was something uh this is also back to joe rogan as well where a lot of controversial uh things things come from but uh he had mel Gibson on and they were talking about methylene blue i believe it was have you have you looked into this at all it's like it's some sort of dying agent but the you know mel gibson is claiming that uh you know one of his friends who was again like stage four cancer was
able to uh you know basically reduce the spread of his cancer with i think it was like ivermectin and methylene blue have you looked into that at all yeah i mean methylene blue uh methylene blue is an interesting medication it it it started off as a they use it as a die for fish tax so it's completely uh completely artificial medication but the way it works on the mitochondria is that it acts as an electron donor so it basically supplies my energy to the mitochondria and that
combined with the proper light environment with proper uv exposure with proper red light exposure can be very therapeutic and this is these are some of the healing modalities that dr jack cruise uses again i'm hesitant to say that there's a cure all for anything but i've heard it being used for all sorts of diseases and again because a lot of our modern diseases are due to my to control this function interesting and what about uh what about niacin perhaps a little
bit less controversial but i think something that uh maybe is a bit misunderstood i think you've talked about niacin as well in the past yeah i'm part of this signal group that's called the niacin maxis so uh there there is so tell me about it yeah what what how do you uh you know orange pill mean to being a niacin maxi so niacin is vitamin b3 it's a essential vitamin which means your body cannot generate it on its own uh most people who have a
decently healthy diet with enough meat eggs and butter and fish you get enough bite b3 niacin uh you're enough requirements but there is this work of this doctor his name is abram hoffer he wrote a book called niacin and he argues that modern life just depletes our niacin store to such an extent that you need much higher doses of niacin in order to overcome that and again niacin and again niacin works as a substrate in the what we call the tca cycle in the mitochondria which we
use to generate energy so you're basically supplying just energy directly to the mitochondria and abram hoffer like the the diseases he was able to treat with high those niacins it's quite incredible like schizophrenia all sorts of joint disorders diabetes depression many many heart many money heart many money heart issues and it's it's quite incredible i'm gonna i'm gonna have to uh that was a my entrance to the not being niacin piled i guess uh no pun intended there i'm gonna
i'm gonna have to go go deeper than that myself uh what about uh i mean i think nicotine is something that has gotten a bad rap because it's always associated with smoking obviously there are many different ways to take it uh take nicotine now what do you think about the cognitive uh or physical general physiological benefits of nicotine yeah so nicotine works the same way that niacin does it also uh uh gives substrates to this tca cycle uh i am not encouraging anyone to
smoke uh because the the main problem with tobacco these days is not the tobacco itself it's all the chemicals they spray on it and it's it's very very difficult to find actually organic tobacco say like the native americans used to use smoke because native americans smoke a lot and they didn't have issues with lung cancer the the issue with modern tobacco is all the chemicals that you're burning before you are you ingest them into your lung so that's the issue there's a lot of
people that supplement with nicotine they would put patches on or just use the gun and they've reported health benefits from it and there was actually studies showing that smokers did dwell during covid uh it was less there were less risk of going into severe covid because of that and that's because niacin is worked sorry nicotine works that way yeah i remember seeing the the one about smokers which was very counterintuitive obviously because you would think oh this is a
you know a respiratory virus you would think that if you're a smoker wow you should be much more susceptible but in fact they found okay what's the common denominator here well it's you know the smoking's not helping you but the nicotine is basically and then so this is just something i've personally found to be very useful which is again if people are looking for a very low cost improvement i'm just curious your thoughts on it uh mouth taping at night it's something that i started
doing a couple of years ago because i was uh snoring while my lovely wife was uh very pregnant and that was not going super well as she was trying to sleep so i was like okay how can i you know fix this all right let me try some mouth tape i have not been sick a single time since i started mouth taping about two years ago now correlation doesn't equal causation i have a pretty healthy lifestyle uh but i also get run down at times and i travel a decent amount but i i've you know just
curious if this is something that you do personally if it's something you recommend because i know there's uh even just beyond not snoring and annoying your spouse uh there's a whole host of benefits that can kind of come with that so i'm just curious your thoughts on it generally yeah i tape my mouth at night also uh i feel improves my sleep a lot and same the reason is naturally it's far healthier for you to breathe through your nose than through your mouth
uh there's a saying old saying that you should only use your mouth when you when you talk and when you eat that's it so unfortunately with fiat life uh our jaws have become weaker because of eating less solid stuff we're no longer hunting we're no longer you know biting on bone and and stuff so our jaws have become weaker that's one uh uh hormonally our breathing has also gotten worse uh where we're becoming more mouth
breathers rather than nose breathers so i mean the natural state of man is that you would be able to go to sleep and just breathe through your nose but because we have a lot of fiat things ruining our bodies we tend to now mouth breathe at night and if you can force it through that it goes through your nose uh the nose naturally humidifies the the air it warms it so that when it gets the lungs it's in a healthier state and it also it works better on the nervous system when it's when you're
breathing through the nose yeah i've been i was at first skeptical of it and then just tried it for myself and right away noticed that i slept so much better uh you don't wake up with a dry mouth and the more you know i used to have to like wake up during the night just to have some you know chug some water because my mouth was so dry no more issues with that it's been i've been very pleased with and again you can uh you know a tape is uh is cheap even the you know ouchless medical
tape that you can get is is pretty cheap uh so well i've just again rattled off a lot of different things you are there any other maybe just uh let's say practical tips or you know life hacks whatever you want to call them that you would recommend people uh try out for themselves that that you either have personally or through you know your own experience seemed to be really beneficial yeah i think probably most of your uh most of your listeners are familiar that uh a meat based
diet an animal based diet is better for them so a meal is not a meal in my opinion unless it involves some form of meat uh it doesn't have to be red meat any form of meat uh don't worry about fat eat fat fat is good for you especially animal fat uh my my a trick that i use with most of my patients which is i tell them i want you to try and get 10 minutes of morning sunshine every day uh the earliest the better if you can see the sunrise that's exceptional but
but make it a habit that every day you're getting 10 minutes of morning sunshine and when you do that uh your biologic clock relies on seeing the sun in the morning to set how your hormones are going to be for the rest of the day and another thing is the sun uh is converted into important hormones in the body including dopamine and and including uh yeah dopamine so you get this high from the sun if you don't get that in the morning then you're basically leaving yourself up for all sorts of
addictions during the day including you know scrolling social media sugar because if you don't get the dopamine hits from the sun you're gonna try and get them from elsewhere and so that's why i recommend morning sunshine is an essential on the other side of this in the evening uh after sunset you want to try and make sure your environment is as dark as possible so turn off as many lights as possible if you are gonna have any lights on i would recommend
investing in some incandescent bulbs rather than blue led lamps unfortunately uh our government has banned here in the u.s they have banned incandescent light bulbs so it's very difficult to find them again asks you about the incentives uh so try and try and find some incandescent light bulbs i also i'm not a big fan of just you know buying random things but an investment that i think is worth it is blue light blocking glasses so what these do is uh they allow you to see at night
but they block the blue light from coming into your eyes so you have light sensors on your skin if you can wear you know long sleeves and long pants you're able to cover most of these but the most important light receptors in are in your eyes so if you block out the blue light from there that's gonna also help start the melatonin production as we talked about earlier and uh it's gonna affect your sleep and it's gonna affect how well you sleep how well you feel the next day
do you have a uh a recommendation for a specific like is there a specific brand that you look at that you really like for these like are there some i don't know if i haven't looked into these too much uh i think i got some years ago and then stopped using them but is there one that like you would you would very much trust that this is a quality product yeah i'm i'm not affiliated with this group but i like their their product it's called the ra optics raw optics very good products
and the the good the good blue light brokens are like a hundred dollars but i think it's worth the investment uh i currently whenever wherever i am after sunset i put them on and even though they look a little bit quirky i it's fine deal with it i you know i i i appreciate then do you what do you think about i know some people and if they you know can't find an incandescent bulb they'll replace a lot of their light bulbs with red light bulbs is that something that is as you know works
just as well i mean i know even brian johnson i think is doing that so just wanted to check with you to see if that's something you'd recommend yeah even brian johnson can get them some things right yeah yeah red light is again at sunset there's more of red light from the sun and also our ancestors used to spend time by like the campfire at night so we were used to seeing red light at night but not blue light okay okay i'm gonna i've been debating i've got a little uh red light reading
lamp but i might have to get a few more bulbs uh okay you know uh dr mus i've really enjoyed this is there we've covered a lot of stuff and thank you for letting me bombard you with many questions and for providing such great answers and tips here for people is there anything else we didn't cover that that you uh do you want to make sure you get out there to people or anything else that we didn't get a chance to touch on yeah i mean uh my advice to people is that uh the
the modern medical system is quite difficult the modern medical system is quite toxic so just be so just be very careful question everything uh generally i say it with i'm confident in saying this but most pharmaceuticals are toxic so be careful about using any pharmaceuticals try and look for similar minded physicians that believe in the stuff that i'm saying because uh if you haven't seen the light yet this is not a physician that you want to you want to be
be you know talking to and the other thing uh what i recommend to people is take control of your own health be your own doctor be sensitive to your body be sensitive to what certain foods make you feel like be sensitive to what certain lights make you feel like and once you get to that point you don't need a physician anymore and this is the point where you're indestructible it's uh it's it's great advice and i mean it's also powerful coming from somebody who uh that
that is your profession too so you're uh you know you're you're actively trying to uh to shy people away i'm curious too i mean do you see a at all a glimmer of hope or kind of a growing movement of more uh more doctors such as yourself who are you know at least a few starting to ask more questions starting to kind of buck against the system a little or is i mean is it are we still at the very early stages of that because of how entrenched the system is i think we're at an early
stages i mean none of my physician friends believe any of the stuff that i believe in so i mean that will tell you something uh i only find uh people similar minded people online so that's gonna tell you something but the number of people online has definitely increased a lot because of covid so covid was very good very devastating for a lot of people but very good in exposing how entrenched we are in this corrupt system yeah it's it's still insane to me that there are people going out and
getting like their eighth booster and then the next week they're like well i got covid again but at least i had the booster so i it wasn't quite so bad and it's it's just mind-blowing they just keep going going back and going back but i don't know maybe some people are not quite ready to uh to realize the truth that they are just making the pharmaceutical companies insanely rich and happy but we'll see uh last last question anything you're reading right now that or maybe that you've read
recently that you'd really recommend you mentioned a couple of books already but is there anything else that you'd really recommend for people who are trying to maybe go deeper into their own you know taking charge of their own health yeah i mean something i read recently is if you're interested in learning more about light there's a there are two books by john ought his name ot t uh called light and health it's a very quick and easy uh introduction into how light
affects our biology so uh that's a good book to start with uh i post a lot of blog posts dita also might be helpful for people it is very difficult to actually discern the truth from the lies in the medical field because they're just so much so much noise out there and unfortunately the the stuff that's going to sponsor pharmaceutical is going to be the stuff that rises in the top so like if you ask chat gbt for any advice it's it's same as asking a pharmaceutical
representative for advice so so just be very careful while you read yeah find a find a more based ai uh that's that's not going to feed you that stuff where would you like to send people uh where where can they find out more about you and follow your work yeah so i'm most active on twitter uh at ammus md uh i have a free newsletter that i also like to you know i talk about things and i talk about things more freely on the on the newsletter and uh yeah uh my mission is to
to help people break out of the system help people get healthy without pills it's a it's a great mission to be on you know we i've got to got to get you on noster uh because i think your uh your perspective would be very much valued there and the best part about it is that uh when you give some great advice people can just send you bitcoin for it directly so we're we're we're gonna have to get you on there
soon i'm gonna i'm gonna pester you about it sounds good well uh dr moose thank you so much for your time this was really fascinating and again thank you for letting me pepper you with questions i really appreciate your time course walker thank you for having me and that's a wrap on this bitcoin talk episode of the bitcoin podcast if you are a bitcoin only company interest in sponsoring the bitcoin podcast head to bitcoinpodcast.net slash sponsor or send an email to hello at bitcoinpodcast.net
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