BITCOIN, TRUMP, FREEDOM & THE AMERICAN IDEA - ERIK CASON & AMERICAN HODL (THE Bitcoin Podcast)

Look you dumb motherfuckers, like you could have just doubled your fucking wealth. Or, you know, over the last year had you just like shut the fuck up and been like, maybe I'm poor and working at a dead end job that I fucking hate because I don't understand how money actually works. And maybe these Bitcoin guys who have like made some money and some self-independence for themselves, like maybe they have a point.

But instead they go, this is a far right PSYOP that's being played in order to try to destroy the wonderfulness of modern monetary theory. And the government needs to be able to print out money because how else can we spread the love and make sure that all people everywhere are always equal and have all of the equal opportunity always? Particularly the brown people that we want to bomb out of existence because, you know, they need to use my fucking pronouns.

And that's why we're bombing the shit out of them is because they're hateful racist pieces of garbage that, you know, and then there's just like to like, well, like fuck Israel, we can't like support them, but like Ukraine is great or the people doing the opposite one. I'm like, what, like why the fuck is the red or the blue people telling you to bomb the right people?

Regardless, like maybe you should just be upset that brown people are, you know, and in the case of Ukraine, white people too are getting blown up. Like the bombs are not racist. They will kill people whether they're white or brown. And I don't know, it would just be really great if people could be like, you know, maybe we should just kind of talk to people instead of murder them.

But again, I'm not a politician. Maybe there's something I'm missing here. Maybe they'd need to be murdered. I don't know. You can just do things. You don't have to wait for anybody. Nothing's decreed. Like listen, fiat is a fucking disease of the mind. That's what it is. And every currency on earth that's not Bitcoin is fiat. Ethereum is fiat. Solana is fiat. Tether is fiat. They're all fiat. Okay. And then obviously all the fiat currencies are fiat.

But fiat is not just affecting the monetary supply and material goods like iPhones and shit. No, fiat affects you. It affects your mind. It affects the way you think. You think that the world is decreed to you from scribes on high. It's not. The world is built by people that get out and build the fucking world. So if you want to do something, just go do it. Get politically active if you want to be politically active. Build a business if you want to build a business.

Build a family if you want to build a family. Build in a state if you want to build in the state. Go to Mars if you want to go to Mars. Fucking just go do it. Do what you want to do. That is the Bitcoin story. Not by decree. No one tells you to do it. You decree it. You fucking decree it. You go out and do what the fuck you're gonna do in the world. That's what we're doing here in Bitcoin. Fuck this fiat bullshit. Fuck CBDCs.

And it's time for us to really start rebuilding in a meaningful and thoughtful way on top of a Bitcoin standard because that's really an American standard. What the fuck am I doing? Listen to this person. I'm just gonna do whatever the fuck I want. No! I'm doing what I want! Those guests are Eric Kasin and American Hodel. Hodel. Fair warning. This episode contains language that may trigger you if you are easily triggered.

I am not going to run through a laundry list of everything we talk about in advance because honestly we talk about a lot. I'll just tell you it was a great fucking rip and I think it'll help you to digest and get perspective on Donald Trump becoming president of the United States again. What it means for Bitcoin, you and the world. You'll just have to take my word for it that it's worth your time so just sit back, relax, and enjoy.

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giving it a zap on Noster or a boost on Fountain. Without further ado, let's get into this Bitcoin talk with Eric Kasin and American Hodel. Hodel. Okay, we are allegedly live on Zap.stream. So I'm just going to fiddle with this for a second. Let's see here. But yeah, we were just discussing that Hodel is basically on team NoSleep right now and has been, yeah, just ever since they stole the 2020 election, you got to stay up all night now.

You know, you got to keep them in check. So is this like a, is this like a like a young children thing or is this like your brain? No, it's because I was at Bitcoin Mag's live stream for like 12 hours yesterday and I didn't get home until like, you know, 1 30 a.m. And then I fucking didn't go to sleep until 2 a.m. And then because I have young children, I was up at 5 a.m. Oh, good. Like, you know, good time. My sleep got absolutely fucked a couple

nights ago because like, I was like, I'm gonna stay up a little late and watch a movie. And then my brain was like, yeah, you want to stay up fucking late asshole? How about you fall asleep at 4 a.m. So this was like, you know what, like this shit isn't worth it anymore. Like I'm a fucking adult. I'm going to bed at 9 o'clock. I'm going to get up at 6 o'clock and like work out and do all my like adult shit because I'm just like fucking sick. Like I could do that shit when I was in my 20s,

but like that's a long ways away from now. So now I need got to like take care of my body or it's gonna fuck me up. Yeah, it's I was out. I was fishing like this whole weekend like a dude's trip with my my dad and my father-in-law and like some other older dudes. And just like, yeah, we were fishing fishing for steelheads. It was a wonderful time. My first time fishing

for steelheads had a fucking blast, but like you're out in the river all goddamn day. And by the time we got back, like, and I was like the young buck of the group and still I'm like, oh, 7 p.m. It's about time to turn in like fuck. But yeah, so I feel your pain. But then last night I got home from the trip and like was watching MSNBC for fun and stayed up until like three or something. Either of you watched the view this morning. It was so good. I would

describe it. Well, they start whoopie Goldberg starts off with tears in her eyes and she's trying to be magnanimous. And she she goes, yeah, let's talk about let's get into it. And then she passes it to Joy Behar and Joy Behar holds it together for like 90% of the time. And she's like, you know, we got it. It was a fair election and we got it just but he's a racist and then they just like rescinded. It's a full struggle session. Oh my god. It was amazing. Like honestly, it could

have been pay per view. I would have paid $75 to watch it. It was one of the greatest things I've ever seen. It was amazing. So like what what are they going to do now other than just like malfunction and have a hard time? Like I'm just really enjoying getting to like sit in this space and being like democracy is super great. Isn't it? Isn't it wonderful that we elected a fascist Hitler who's waiting for a second term to implement the genocide against all of the people that are

you and they're like, it's a good. So I'm really the glitching is real right now. Like you've like it's you almost feel bad or I would almost feel bad if the people who are glitching like we're glitching right now weren't so insufferable for so long. Like I would almost feel bad. You know what I mean? But I'm not quite there yet. No, I don't feel a shred of guilt about anything. I'm just laughing at all the memes. It's hilarious. Like look like fuck this voting in democracy nonsense.

But like I'm really enjoying these liberals that have used the last four years to try to cram all this fucking nonsense down everybody's throat and now I'd have to deal with like the reactionary against that in addition to the fact of that like it's about fucking time like the last the last four years were like really fucking wacky. We had we still have this gerryach

president like what the fuck happened to Joe Biden? Did he just like vanish? Like what it's just so weird to me and not like in the meanwhile the whole liberal machine keeps marching on being like like this is so anyways I'm just excited to watch this whole thing kind of break down and and crash into flames and see what happens. I woke up feeling just proud of America and the reason I was proud of America is not because I America voted the way I wanted them to vote which

they did like in a landslide victory. The reason I was proud of them it was proud of the feeling of being American was that propaganda doesn't work on us. You tried to sigh up us and we just aren't fucking having it because being an American means doing whatever the fuck we want

and you are not allowed to tell us what to do. That's that's the feeling that's the energy I woke up with like the American people are exactly who I thought they were you know it's like that mean we they are who we thought they were they are who we thought they were you know it's like the American people are who I thought they were and they're just as fucking wild and untamed and fucking crazy and individualistic as I've always expected and needed them and wanted them to be and known that

they were and I just fucking love it I love seeing the results come in and then the people who are the professional propagandists the Joe Scarborough the MSNBC the Rachel Maddow's the Whoopi Goldbergs right professional paid propagandists go I can't believe calling them racist garbage didn't work fuck you fuck you fuck all of you fuck you well it's interesting because like it's uh it's this really reactionary hateful thing where and it's like super hypocritical where it's like

fuck you you racist piece of goddamn shit like you need to go into the fucking concentration camp and be brutally raped and tortured because you won't tolerate other people you fucking sick fucking pig and it's like you know maybe there should be some self-reflection here about some of those things you said in our expressing and and like I don't know like this is the thing that I've been trying to deal with kind of in the liberal bubble I'm in it's like hey do you guys think that like

all the hatred and vitriol that you're directing at white people and and about like how useless men are and that they really obstruct everything that could have ever been done that's good and might have a little something to do with this in addition to like perhaps we're in the position that we're in because of the way that you keep shitting on all these people that actually might have some degree of value to society and I'm not saying they're better or worse than anybody

but maybe trying to direct all your hate towards them could have something to do with the outcome that came here as opposed to you being like hey these people we'd like to include them in the fold rather than just kind of doing the reverse hate thing but you know I don't I don't know I'm not I'm not a politician it's tough to tell people like hey you know all that shit that's in your head that's not real it's just not real none of it you made it up you're living in magical

fairy princess land okay and what I would what I would want you to do is form a hypothesis and test it you know what I mean like experiment are you in magical fairy princess land can you fly you know I mean maybe you start on the ground first don't jump out of a window but like you know maybe test your flap your wings a little see if it works if it doesn't maybe we have the wrong hypothesis I don't know weird whoa just call it here that would require like critical thought

though an actual self-reflection and like now they've just like they've gone the other way and they're like well actually the black and Latinos are racist too and they clear like and you're like hold on hold on guys I was told because of the intersectional hierarchy that they couldn't be every racist racist but but now they are racist and the Arabs too some of those Arabs we don't like them the Cubans especially escape and communism come in here voting for a republican who do they

think they are it's ridiculous yeah it's fucking will there be any self-reflection though like any like moment of inward like looking inward to say maybe we were kind of part of the problem huh there they're nowhere close to being ready to deal with reality you know in in a sense it's kind of like it's a huge miscarriage of you know American civil duty that's happened because these people have been so badly brainwashed and sigh opt by the mainstream media you know these professional

state propagandas that you know you can't help but feel a little bit bad for them but like at the same time I mean there there's nothing to do but to get out of your echo bubble like you the only person who can crawl out of Plato's cave is you and I don't know how to explain to you that the shadows aren't real they're just not real and so like those of us who are out of the cave we we all talk about how retarded you all are in the cave but we don't know how to actually get you

out of the cave because every time we try and bring you out you fucking bite us and go rabbit you know and we can like literally tell you the cave the exit is right there like this is where this is where you need to go to get out of the cave and they're like that exit looks not really like it's inclusive um I don't think I'm gonna go out that way sorry Casey go ahead man with it being at a bitcoin all-time high right now like that you know is what I came on with is that like look you dumb

motherfuckers like you could have you could have just doubled your fucking wealth over you know over the last year had you just like shut the fuck up and been like maybe I'm poor and working at a dead-end job that I fucking hate because I don't understand how money actually works and maybe these bitcoin guys who have like made some money and some self-independence for themselves like maybe they have a point but instead they go this is a far-right PSYOP that's being played in order

to try to destroy them the the wonderfulness of modern monetary theory and the government needs to be able to print out money because how else can we spread the love and make sure that all people everywhere are always equal and have all of the equal opportunity always particularly the brown people that we want to bomb out of existence because you know they need to use my fucking pronouns and that's why we're bombing the shit out of them is because they're hateful racist pieces of garbage

that you know and then and then there's just like to like well like fuck Israel we can't like support them but like Ukraine is great or the people doing the opposite one I'm like what like why the fuck is the red or the blue people telling you to bomb the right people regardless like maybe you should just be upset that brown people are you know and in the case of Ukraine white people too are getting blown up like the bombs are not racist they will kill people whether they're white or brown

and I don't know it would just be really great if people could be like you know maybe we should just kind of talk to people instead of murder them but again I'm not a politician maybe there's something I'm missing here maybe they don't want to get on the like the bitcoin price as a lens by which to view the world it's like last night when I was watching the election results yeah I was at bitcoin magazine studio and they had all the boards up and all the stuff you know and I'm

watching it all it's like the traditional media and I'm on my phone looking at the bitcoin price and I'm like Trump's gonna win like it just got bit in the markets this is gonna happen I now know the future ahead of traditional media and it's the same thing with like polymarket was telling us Trump was gonna win for months and months because people have been actually you know putting economic value behind those those uh you know those votes that they're

making with their economic capital right and so you know if you're listening to traditional media you're trying to do sense making that way and you have like you know the the poll the Nate Silver's the world the pollster's telling you Ann Seltzer telling you like oh he's gonna win Iowa whatever like they these people have no skin in the game so there's no proof of work to their predictions and that and you need to once you have proof of work as a lens you as a bitcoiner

look for it and see it and find it everywhere and anything that you can attach proof of work to you you realize that this is a real thing and you can you can bank on it but I mean people that don't have that are doing everything proof of stake right like they just don't understand that reality that that unfortunately they are living in there's nothing you can do about it you can't you can't escape that reality right like you are inside that reality well it'll be clear like like proof of

stake is a methodology that's like operable and like that's called socialism like I can actually like hijack the government and be like hey mr musk like fuck you we're gonna like steal all your shit it's like cool like now that we did that guys like how much more runway they have they're like we have we have four days we got we got four days to run the budget now it's like oh it's like the guy that's wait wait the guy that's getting us into space and and and like gave us like satellite

internet and shit like stealing everything from him got us four days of runway and like yeah so uh we're out of time now so who are we gonna rob next they're like uh that the amazon guy yeah like fuck him he's like stealing from people and he's hateful it's like yeah but why do you think he has better approval ratings than like they than like everyone than like the us military like it seems like people really like him they're like ah because uh because he's he's racist right so let's steal

his shit and like and like that's what proof of stake is about it's like fuck these other people we can like steal their shit and like remake the rules so like stealing shit is okay when we steal shit for the right reasons and this is like the cluster fuck that's ethereum like if you've watched like what their monetary policy has been like sent like since the fucking dow fork that happened it's it's literally always been like yeah but like this is the one time it will ever happen well maybe

we'll change it again you know what fuck it we're just gonna kind of do whatever we want and like that's fine but it's not gonna work out long term and there's gonna be very severe fucking consequences so you could learn about how economics works and it turns out that like nobody likes being stolen from and it turns out like if i can steal from you i can steal from other people too and that's like a really big problem so you should probably be invested in a system that goes you know what

we're not gonna steal from anybody ever and though but what about hitler and polpot and it's like yeah it turns out that even fucking assholes we like need to respect their right to property too and they're like but if we do that then like all of the racists and hateful people will win and it's like you know maybe you need to expand your worldview beyond thinking that everybody's hateful and racist and that's kind of their their main problem by the way like i've never actually like when i was

younger i had a couple friends dads who were like pretty racist and stuff but it was always just like i don't know like i've never met somebody who like really had as their like main thing they're like yeah but like fuck the mexicans and the black people it's like usually like yeah but what about habib like he was helping us out early and they're like well yeah he's brown and that that's fine but

and i'm like so you're like not really that racist and they're like well you know they they're trying to take our jabs it's like well but were you gonna were you gonna do the gardening and well no fuck no i ain't gonna get wet today it's like uh maybe he maybe his use is pretty good at what he does you know i'm just saying like i don't think he's taking your job you don't you don't seem like you're gonna be gardening in the ring i'm just saying i think so much this is like a it's it's

it is a mirror right like what you see in everybody else tends to be more of a reflection of what you have going on in the inside than what is actually going on with them because you don't fucking know them you have no way of knowing what their what their beliefs are whether or not they are a giant bigot and a racist or whether they're just some man or woman trying to live their life put food in the table for their kids and not get just absolutely bent over a barrel by the government

which is like a reasonable thing like nobody really wants to be bent over a barrel by the government right but apparently if you push back against that too hard you are given one of these labels but then it's like you have kind of this proof of concept here that this is just a reflection of what is going on in a lot of these uh you know bigot callers minds when you see them say things like you know oh i can't like why would all of these latinos vote for their own deportation it's

like do you think the only latinos in the country are here illegally like do like is that what you think that they're voting for their own deportation like there's lots of latinos here who came here legally like a ton of them and it turns out a lot of them were escaping the same sort of bullshit socialist virgin on communist policies that you're trying to push on them now and then you turn around and call them racist because they didn't agree with you like it's this insane paternalistic

projection and i like but again the sad thing is i don't know if there is ever like a come to jesus moment where they're like you know what you know guys we went too far we were wrong that was that was pretty messed up for a few years there huh we're cool now let's keep things civil we're not going to call everybody nazis anymore especially you white lib or you white women you know you white suburban women you nazis like it just like turns out calling everybody a nazi is a really bad

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you also help support this fucking podcast so thank you. I think you know you guys are both being charitable and trying to like diagnose and I spent a lot of I spent a lot of time trying to do that too like get into their heads and understand their psychology like well how could you think this way it's so severely retarded um and now i'm just like listen we have now unfettered control of uh you know all three branches of government and it's like we're I don't listen at the Thanksgiving

dinner table I don't pay attention to the conversation at the kids table I don't care what the kids are talking about I don't you know I mean it doesn't matter it's like uh what color crayon do you like I don't know I like uh I like burnt umber that's my favorite yeah it's like no who gives a fuck um we're at the adult table now and it's about stacking wins on the board and you know like for instance I mean Trump is the first bitcoin president Vansown's bitcoin we now have

the opportunity to like see real bitcoin appoint like appointments be made where like people who are being recommended for high purchase of power will be people that are sympathetic to bitcoin if not bitcoiners themselves from an ideological standpoint and to me that's the most fascinating thing that's going on and whatever like woke mind virus is like eating the brains of like the liberal white women we all know um I don't give a single fuck like drink your chardonnay

bitch and like hopefully it cures it I don't I don't know what to tell you you know well it's funny because I have a good friend who like you know he's like like deep barrier roots so like everybody's like very very liberal uh and like he's a bit of the black sheep the family so he you know he was like I'm gonna vote for Trump and this this is like very upsetting to his family uh and like you know everyone was getting outraged with him and he was like look he was like look

like the only way we get to talk about politics now is like you have to steel man my position like you don't get to come to me and be like but Trump's like a racist bigot like you need to actually come to me and be like well perhaps you want to elect Trump because like you feel different about economic policies or whatever and I found like this is the best way to actually like force people to to like think in a meaningful way because like otherwise they'll do the same

bullshit with you but I've found like it really glitches people pretty hard because I can be like look like I I understand your position like you think Kamala as being the the first black woman president is really gonna create policies that champion and allow for you know people of various and diverse backgrounds to be able to have a real leg up in America totally hear that I have a fundamentally different position that I don't believe that that actually helps people in a

unique way and I actually think there's a very discreet kind of racism that's going on with that when you say hey we need to give corporations to black people because they're not good enough to be able to compete with the white people it's like they're you know like I I see something a bit racist in that and like again I'm not trying to take away from that there there can be good reasoning behind that but you know particularly living in the state of California where this has actually

been proposed as like a meaningful bill seemed pretty fucking racist to me to steal a bunch of money from me and give it to a bunch of you know people you know I think in this case just black people that are gonna be getting that money directly when as far as I know they directly were not enslaved by me or my ancestors and I'm not sure what their relationship is to it either I'm standing with Kamala Harris like black woman this is this you know great that if she was elected

that she would be the first black woman but let's be very clear she's not like African American she's a Jamaican woman that's where she's descended from and again like doesn't take away from the fact that that is would be the first black woman president but she is not an African American and that's a bit misleading to kind of do that whole pitch but most people are really uninterested in this just because they have a deep vested interest in what their emotional capacity is

and that's one of the things I've found deeply disturbing about a lot of liberal ideology is that like if something feels right that means that like that that is right and when you try to pick that apart they you know they go well that's racist and that doesn't feel like if I'm that doesn't feel good so we can't be that and like it turns out that like maybe there's a little bit of racism you have going on there with you know wanting to steal money from white people and give

it to all the other people just saying dude it's you know it's you mentioned like this friend who's bucking the trend in his Bay Area family right and something I just think is so genuinely sad is that we are at a place right now and and I'm sure you know people could come up with examples of like well in the Civil War families were broken up over that and it's like okay let's not please let's not compare the two the two moments in time but the fact that people will

literally stop speaking to their family basically you know diso you know disavow them like well my my mom voted for Donald Trump and so I can't I just I won't speak to her anymore I can't possibly because it turns out even though this woman loved me and raised me my entire life and made so many sacrifices for me and did everything she possibly could to give me every advantage I could have she's a racist bigot and it's like people will literally stop like I'm sure you guys

know people like I can think of a number of people within circles I run it out like off the top of my head that level like nope I won't be talking to them anymore like I like I'm out you know no more family thanksgiving for me I can't be around this racism no more Christmas I you're not going to see your grandchild I don't know any of those examples personally out of no more grandchildren time that

would be like especially fucked up but the point is like how do you have so much hate in your heart that you cannot you cannot get over the fact that somebody that you love and that loves you may have a slightly different opinion than you and that the fact that their opinion is different is so offensive to you that you would break apart those ties that bind you for a fucking political candidate for a fucking agent of the state apparatus that is fucking insane like that

that truly blows my mind and I think that's that is really sad if somebody by some chances listening to this who's like well I haven't talked to my uncle Jim in two years because he voted for so and so on either side of the fucking aisle who cares like you should be able to argue the most with the people you love the most because no matter what at the end of the day you guys fucking still love each other get the fuck over it you're gonna have disagreements it's okay

that's a beautiful thing and you should have people that challenge you it's both about like a first of all it's about like a a really weak frame of individual reference that that that's very frankly callow at the bottom because like if you you have to identify so strongly with a political party or a movement that that becomes definitive about you and that like you you need to break with other people because they're disagreement with it because like look like I'm clearly like a

fucking freak bitcoiner and like everyone in my life doesn't agree with the bitcoin thing despite the fact that they've seen me have very very fat gains while they have lost lots of money and I think that's sad and unfortunate and like I'm always like waiting you know at the dinner table at Thanksgiving for them to be like so Eric like bitcoin's at an all-time high like we were all totally fucking wrong and we we could have you know doubled our portfolios had we actually listened

to you but like nope never fucking happens and at best I try to bring up the bitcoin thing they're wow like the I just don't understand this money thing so how was the game last night and I'm like you know you could like you could have actually like rolled that into like a question being like so Eric like what is money like why is bitcoin actually different from the dollar because I don't understand and you seem to get it but yeah that never happens and I find it pretty sad and

unfortunate and like the other one is like I'm still open to bitcoin being fucking wrong I'm certain it's not I mean like if you happen to be a top tier world cryptographer and you're like check it out there's this air in the sub 256 curve that was chosen and turns out the whole thing's fucking broken you know I'd probably contact the US military first and like let them know and understand that fucking encryption standards don't work but I just find it pretty fascinating how

deep most people have fled into the them and like they don't actually have a definitive idea of who and what they are their purpose in the world and let their like much more interested in making sure everybody feels comfortable and safe rather than making a little bit of discomfort in a conversation that might force some thought and growth because like again I don't want to be a fucking asshole but why don't we think real hard about how things are going and what we would really

desire for ourselves and others and like I don't know it's uh I know this Thanksgiving's gonna get interesting with people being like that hateful bigot Trump he was elected and he's gonna destroy America now I'll be like yeah like it was pretty bad when Hitler was elected for the second non-consecutive term and when he really made the choice to go after all of his political opponents at that point in time that was a really weird time in history huh guys yeah remember yeah there's my partisan

coalition you know like the Tulsi Gavrids of the Weimar Germany were joining up with Hitler like no it's so stupid dude I think if we take it at face value everything Eric said is and Walker said is true but like you know I think a lot of these things are just that family members just really don't fuck with each other for deep deep familial reasons like trauma trauma reasons and they're using the the Trump thing as a convenient excuse right with rather than going to therapy and like hashing

out their shit or having a frank and honest conversation I mean I have family members in my life who you know I've had these frictions with and the truth is like our relationship was never good it goes it goes deep to the psyche of both individuals in you know in the conflict it relates back to our grandparents and their site and you know it just goes back and by and you're like okay so I actually I've been like cast in a play here of like some deep familial trauma

and I'm not even like really aware of of what's going on and neither is the other participant we just know that we don't like each other and then you have this flash point of Donald Trump's election in 2016 or in 2024 or whatever and then that becomes the the way to fissure like it creates the fissures in the relationship and whatever so I think I think that's a lot of what's going on but I also think that you know more on the the topic that you were saying about you know you

were trying to talk to all these people and they wouldn't listen or whatever I went through this myself and what I realized is that I had survivor's guilt so I needed to fix them for me had nothing to do with them it was all about me it had to do with my own feelings of inadequacy or I'm not being able to save my own mother from her psychological issues and then when I realized that I was like oh okay I can just stop doing that because it it's not serving the other person I I thought it was

my way into being a good person like I'm a good person I care about these people I really want to help them and whatever but the truth is man that there are people with a growth mindset and there are people without a growth mindset and I'm a person with a growth mindset I want to continue growing in life and doing you know because there's no there's no stasis in nature right that's nature a pours of vacuum like there is no stasis everything's in constant flux it's constant chaos

and you're you're basically either growing or decaying right that's how nature works and so we are a part of nature that's how we work also that's how we work psychologically but for some reason people don't think or believe this and they like to you know have this you know sort of delusion that they're they're a static element in a static system makes no sense to me and I I can't stand people who are like that and I don't want to be around them so for me after I realized

the survivor's guilt thing I was like okay yeah I don't want to be around people that don't have a growth mindset and so now I just am not so if you don't have that if you don't think that way I'm just not around you bro I don't know what you got going on and I don't care and I wish you well I hope you get out of it but fuck off yeah I've you know it's taken me a while to learn it but particularly family like it's as much as like I I really want like deep connecting conversation

and for like us to understand each other and for them to like meet me where I'm at they have like zero fucking interest in that like they really want to talk about the weather like like anything that's like level one maybe level two but like level three fuck no and it took me a long time to like button up against that wall being like what like why aren't you guys turned on like why don't like you know like like COVID was like a great example of like trying to

bring that stuff up and like lots of big conflict coming up and it hurt me for a long time because I was like why don't they want to understand me like this is so difficult I want to be loved in the way I want to be loved and like I finally just kind of got to the place of like oh like this is their shit they're incapable of it and like the more I rock the boat the more that they're going to resist it making capsize more likely and like I just need to be okay with doing the level one

and level two thing with them and I treat it I can I can do level eight nine ten shit with you guys and like that's frankly like that's why I really fucking love the Bitcoin community is because like I can have real and sincere conversation where we actually think hard about shit and go deep and enjoy that and like that's kind of what friends are supposed to be for family can be for you know just loving them for who them in and you know I love my mom really great person I'm never going to

have a deep and thoughtful connecting conversation about the political nature of world in our reality with her gonna have a really great conversation about how beautiful the sky is but you know that that's about as far as it can go and that's okay and so I just I really welcome people who are gonna go into this Thanksgiving ready to fist fight everybody just like eat like a fucking marijuana brownie before that and just like enjoy staring at the vase or some shit like it's not worth fighting

your family and their their stupid ideas what they believe is right because others like if you're a Bitcoin or like it's pretty clear that the next cycle is getting pumping right now and so anybody who is even remotely smart in your family is gonna come to you and Bitcoin's at $120,000 at Thanksgiving and be like hey you know uh you like made like some money with this right you can be like yeah yeah I'm like really fucking high but yeah I made some money with this and they'll be like could

you could you tell me a bit about that maybe I'll be your opening don't don't expect it but uh yeah I'm pretty sure that with what the Trump team is up to uh they're about to like front run destroying the entire financial system because that's like that's kind of their MO they're like like good with this money shit and they all clearly hold Bitcoin and they're clearly going to be appointing people so uh look like I'm not telling you what to do but like if you like money you

should probably buy Bitcoin and keep holding it for a while because I'm pretty sure it's gonna keep going up for a while here although there is some fucking moron right now who's absolutely gonna slam their hand in the door and be like going back to $50,000. No way Bitcoin is. I'll say it's not static bullshit. $58,000 stablecoin, static, static system.

To be fair I love the $58,000 meme and I am guilty of using it so much but now I've also implemented the $158,000 meme because it looks almost the same to the to the unseeing eye you just see $58,000 but there's a one in there. Why not $250,000? Why not $358,000? Jesus I hadn't even gotten that far. Why not $950,000? Why not $1.258,000? $5.8,000. You know like fuck it let's let's roll it up.

First of all I appreciate you guys because you and I appreciate that we can have level eight and nine conversations maybe someday a level 10 I don't know how high these levels go so like how the scale works exactly but I appreciate that there exist people that we can have these kind of fucking talks with because it's you're right it's not always within the family sometimes it is and that's very fortunate but like if if that's not you out there listening

like that's okay too like you know that's why that's why you're in bitcoin right because you can go meet with a bunch of other strange people who want to talk about how fucked up our monetary system is like ad nauseam and like are super fucking down with that and that's a beautiful thing but I'm curious because because Eric you mentioned just like the Trump team MO being go in and kind of like fuck shit up a little bit in the in the financial system do you think do you think okay

like Trump is on board with that like is Trump gonna go full on and the Fed like is Ron Paul coming on here and we are fucking burning this thing down or is Trump like he's I don't know about your like the vibes you've gotten from but he seems more measured lately like maybe it's you know almost getting assassinated maybe it's just a little you know a couple extra years maybe it's barren being nine and a half feet tall standing next to him and he's like you know what I'm not

the biggest guy in the room anymore I don't know where like where do you think we go where is Trump at on this and like do you think the team he's assembling is actually going to go in there and be like no we're gonna we're gonna bring the Fed down I think from the standpoint it looks like that's a possibility but like I I am very very deeply convinced that like the deep state is absolutely and unequivocally in control and there's no conceivable fucking way that anybody in any

elected or any appointed position can like meaningfully stop any of this because like I I can't really imagine the powers that be in the back room or like uh-oh you guys they like they like got the right people in the right position to like do stuff like what are we gonna do now and they're like dang guess guess we lost we just gotta accept it so no like and like I think Ron Paul and Elon Musk and all the people who get in the right position they are absolutely going to try

their best to do stuff and then I'm pretty sure none of it's gonna happen you know same thing like totally hold my breath that Trump keeps his word about free and Ross day one you know gonna be mum on the word until then if it doesn't happen I'm not gonna be shocked if it does happen I will be the first to to give alcoleides to where they're due because that would be phenomenal you know my hope is is that everybody who's really full all the hope of all this stuff we'll see the next two years

play out very little will actually change in terms of it uh yeah that that's when I'm gonna launch my my radical states rights movement to use the the states to unilaterally fuck up the federal government so dude the um let's talk about the Ross thing for a second because did anyone have more on the line yesterday than Ross Albright no like I mean Ross Albright's life hung in the balance it was double life rot in a prison cell for all eternity uh until you die and are you

know taken away in a casket or freedom in three months freedom in two and a half months I mean that's a fucking crazy crazy thing that that he had to live through you know the potential that either one of these outcomes it was like everyone was saying it was a 50-50 toss up between these outcomes and luckily we're in the good timeline and you know I was hanging out with the production crew when I was at this this thing last night and uh you know basically they were asking me like

why do you guys all care so much about Ross and I said listen um Ross's story is a miscarriage of justice and Ross didn't deserve double life he did do something wrong he did deserve some prison time like serious that's just how it is I know like the anarcho capitalists are like no way bro but it's like come on I mean we have a society that has rules he broke the rules like he he does a little time but he's at this point in life he has paid his whatever debt he owed to society

has been more than paid he just created a website he never hired hitmen all that is bullshit the man who allegedly he hired to have killed supports him is a vocal supporter of Ross Albright I mean you've been lied to about this case the agents the federal agents on the case were dirty um they were they were stealing all of them from different agencies like every single mother fucking

general agent and that god agency stole money like it's fucking insane and most of them like got off the hook too and this is what I'm so fucking angry about is the hypocrisy of it last time than Ross exactly no and I mean what I'm saying is like this is a this case is a miscarriage of justice and Ross deserves to be free and he will be free in two and a half months I'm not one of these bitcoiners who's like uh we'll see bro we'll see if

Trump does it like no no he's he's gonna be free it's campaign promise we put up serious money and we went to bat for Trump and now we're gonna get Ross out and the reason it's important to us is what I told the production crew is because yes all those things are true it's a miscarriage of justice etc but what it shows is that we are ascendant politically that we matter that we're important things weren't supposed to happen this way and then they happen this way the state condemned a man

to slow death double life imprisonment and we said no you don't get to do that we got to rewrite the rules of the game as the game was being played and it shows that we don't have to just sit there and take it I mean imagine the timeline where bitcoin goes to zero in that timeline Ross rots in prison for the rest of his life but we're in the good timeline where bitcoin is at 76k and Ross is free in two and a half months and I mean it just shows that we are going to be players in the world

you're not going to be off in the woods with your your cold card shoved up your ass I mean if you want to do that like that's fine like get freaky it's okay bitcoin is about freedom you should really consider a ledger if you're doing that you know for real don't the cold card is fair listen you want to shove it up your ass you you'd be my guest okay but we're I really need to make a butt plug that that is specifically how has no one made that yet that's my question we are going

to be players in the world and we're going to have political power and we're also going to make some but plugs okay the game is a real good butt plug please read each other we're thinking of spinning spinning up a little a little shop forum they're going to be super nice hypoallergenic of course really smooth on entry not so much on exit because you don't want that thing coming out necessarily right like you got to keep it in there just to wrap that up I'm happy for Ross and I'm

I'm happy for us I think like this is a big moment in bitcoin's history Ross being afraid is a big moment you know well I and and you know I'm on the opposite side I'm gonna hold my breath till it happens and when it does I'm you know that'll bring you back in the folds my crazy crypto anarchist land like I might like move into like far right political activism or some shit but it's really important to get that like we're an actual political force now and like I really hope

that we're going to start behaving like it and that there's going to be like a real actual bitcoin contingency because like I actually think of the next four years there's a real fucking shot of ending the Fed and like I I don't think anybody inside the federal government will do it but I do legitimately believe that like if we got 35 states to push through their state legislature legislation to like end the Fed that that shit would get amended to the

constitution and like the federal government would have to like flip the fuck out and figure out how to do that and I think it's really important because like the federal government is so out of fucking control at this point in time and we really need to start figuring out new and different methodologies to change how that can happen so I'm just excited to see all the changes that's happening and also like fucking a hundred K is like in play now so it's gonna be

really exciting when we get there hundred give out thanks in like a year well I've had a well I've probably heard him from before but like I hope his hundred K party is still gonna happen somewhere yeah we're whatever I mean I don't like to you know talk about price too much on the show because I'm not an open mouthed YouTube shill but that being said caveat you know it is like above 70 say we're at like 76 200 right now that's just like kind of a trip you know and how do I

agree with you that like as I was watching the price last night again I like I've been on the river these last like four days I've like checked Twitter a couple times then I was like no that's that's not really of interest to me like I'm out in fucking nature catching fish hanging out with like my dad like that's what I want to this is what I want to be doing right at this moment and but then I got back and of course I was like yes you know like bring it in and then you know

stayed up until 2am watching MSNBC as one does but like you could you could feel something was happening and I think you can feel something is happening now and I just wonder like does Bitcoin like because I would say that Bitcoin is it is inherently partisan or excuse me it is inherently political it is not partisan right yes it is like money is always going to be political we're talking about separating fucking money in state of course that is going to be political

it is not inherently partisan it is only partisan if partisans make it partisan and that's not to say the people that are pro-Bitcoin are the partisans who are making partisan it's the ones on the other side who are reactionary to it right so I'm just interested to see like I mean fuck like it's a it's a red fucking wave like Trump blew out the popular vote he's got the mandate right he obviously won the electoral college you've got a republican majority in the house in the senate

by all rights they have no excuse not to do everything they claim they want to do right right like percent there's no excuse by the way the democrats going after us and brought and broader crypto markets was such in retrospect such a massive unforced error on their part there was no reason to make significant enemies of us none and all they did was suffer because of it now like I don't know how much we affected the election but we affected it some non-trivial amount

okay and it just it wasn't something they needed to do and they did it anyway because they were drunk with power that's why they did it I mean they did it because like they believe their own retarded bullshit that they like they had literally pumped up their own ass intentionally where they're they're like this is used for terrorism financing and it's it's so all the bros can get away with tax and like it was all bullshit that they just repeatedly kept convincing them so I'm like like the

fucking green piece nonsense and like the like I feel so bad for the guy that's running that twitter because like like all he does is tweet something and is immediately like provided all of the evidence of how fucking wrong he is and like the other thing that's just so shameful is that like these people are supposed to actually like give a fuck about the environment and like like what's more important than making sure that we're actually getting clean hydro power from power

plants that were going to be shut down otherwise you know like what's more important to people in sub-Saharan Africa who have never had access to fucking electricity and can't have clean water and now they can like it's it's just so disingenuous and like again I would really hope that you know the democrats would sit down and be like wow we like we really fucked that one up we should really like reconsider this but uh I very very strong doubts that that's gonna happen and it's gonna be

really interesting to see kind of what the what comes out of it but yeah I have a very strong expectation that they are going to continue to double down until essentially they fracture the democrat party into like there's either gonna be a renewed moderated democratic movement or it's gonna fracture out into like different parties either way it's gonna be fucking entertaining can I say something controversial guys no uh I am I am I am glad Elizabeth foreign was reelected

because honestly I she was uh she was the guy's what uh John John Deaton right he was like yeah he lost yeah he had a battle she's very well funded in her state and she is the liberal where did that money come from that's really all right from uh but he was funded by crypto lobbyists but no the reason I'm I'm happy that Elizabeth Warren won is because I would have missed her I would have honestly missed reply guying her all the time when she says stupid fucking useless

shit like that would have left a little bit of a hole in me and I don't know how I would have filled it like I need something to butt up against and like Pocahontas is the best she's just the best for that like it's like when she talks about price gouging I see a Elizabeth Warren price gouging tweet and I'm just like ah yes I know what I'm doing today you know like it's nice to have that and like I also think to uh to your point Eric like she is going to and to your point as well

how to like unforce errors she's going to continue to fracture the Democratic party because like like one in fucking seven Americans owns bitcoin like owns bitcoin this is according to the study that Troy Cross did there's probably a margin of error there but even if it's one in fucking five Americans that's already a shitload and we are not even in like number go up mania yet where people are like I probably need some of that yeah this is a growing coalition and to fight against it

is just like first of all you're fighting against freedom and you're just fighting against people from all walks of life it's not like these are just the the crypto bros are all these you know like not every you know bitcoin bro is as fucking radical as casein over here you know and I mean that honestly the most complimentary way possible just so you know Eric thank you I appreciate it like what the fuck are they fighting against what are they anti your anti freedom

your anti people being able to make decisions for themselves but it's like oh like it's like my body my choice like my fucking money my choice fuck right off anyway I was so glad I was so glad she was reluctant that's it I was gonna say this is something you said which is that uh it's such a it's such a bipartisan like coalition multi-racial like pluralistic like I mean bitcoin is a large tent like the orange party is the largest tent we have politically and uh they did they made a

large mistake going after us because you know first of all it's like are you dumb you're going after young millennials with money who are multi like racially diverse the fuck is are you stupid like what's wrong it doesn't even make sense it doesn't even compute but anyway listen there was a referendum on these people last night I feel confident that this worldview is is going to be dealt a hearty blow um and they're they're gonna realize that you know there's a new player in

town and it's the crypto lobby and the bitcoin lobby and David Bailey in some non-trivial fashion was responsible for freeing Ross Ulberg from prison um or will be responsible for freeing Ross Ulberg from prison and for getting Donald Trump elected he made a significant you know mark dent on this election and he's the MVP of bitcoin in 2024 like that goes to David Bailey number one with a bullet uh there's no one else that even came close this year and you know I I

think it just reminds me I was talking with David Zell about this last night that um you can just do things you can just do things whatever you want to do you can just do it just do it Elon wanted to affect the election he just went out and fucking rounded up a bunch of Amish people and drove them to the polls because the Amish can't drive themselves to the polls he was like we will drive you to the polls you hate the government right and the Amish were like fuck yeah

they tried to shut down our raw milk and shit and Elon was like yeah fuck that we will drive you there let's all go vote uh you can just do things you don't have to wait for anybody nothing's decreed like listen fiat is a is a fucking disease of the mind that's what it is and every currency on earth that's not bitcoin is fiat ethereum is fiat salana is fiat tether is fiat they're all fiat okay and then obviously all the fiat currencies are fiat but fiat is not just affecting the the

monetary supply and you know material goods like iPhones and shit no fiat affects you it affects your mind it affects the way you think you think that the world is decreed to you from scribes on high it's not the world is built by people that get out and build the fucking world so if you want to do something just go do it get politically active if you want to be politically active build the business if you want to build a business build a family if you want to build a family build an

estate if you want to build in the state go to mars if you want to go to mars fucking just go do it do what you want to do that is the bitcoin story not by decree no one tells you to do it you decree it you fucking decree it you go out and do what the fuck you're gonna do in the world that's what we're doing here in bitcoin hey fucking men i'm fucking riled up right now jeez well the to elaborate on your point like this fucking disease has rotted out

95 percent of all of the creative potential of people everywhere and it's great to see that that five percent is making the change for the other 90 percent like what we're seeing being developed in this entire system is fucking phenomenal and people are not asking for fucking permission anymore and i really hope between what we're seeing in bitcoin and the renewal of this american spirit that like like one of the things i didn't realize last night with that i was so

excited about when i started watching the bitcoin price go up the markets go up i was like oh yeah like there's this entire economic engine that's sighing with relief now that they're not gonna get fucked out of existence by a socialist government that fucking hates them and that maybe there's real potential to actually create dynamic change like i actually and i think it's really interesting that people like this tariff things get destroyed anything like fuck that this tariff

thing's gonna supercharge the fucking economy like it's gonna turn out that like people that are importing cheap shit from china and they have to pay twice as much they're gonna go you know maybe i'm gonna buy the american made thing where i'm not gonna have to pay twice as much for the same thing you know and and like that's a really great fucking thing and i understand all the economic arguments about how tariffs work and otherwise but like let's be clear cheap shit

from china that's subsidized by slavery like it's not good for fucking america you know it's good for america shit made in america that paid american people that give american salaries so that they can spend money in america and like not to get on the nationalist thing but like the other thing is is like the world fucking needs americanism right now like shit is fucked up and there needs to be a renewal of this american spirit that pushes out into the world that you know is what 1776 was about

which was a global revolution that then swept through europe because they're like yo europeans look we just like fucked up the british empire and we earned our own rights by fighting these assholes would you like that they're like yeah this like monarchy shit is bullshit let's let's fucking fight and i hope that we're gonna see a renewal of that same spirit that we're gonna fight back against our federal government and their surveillance in the deep state and that we're

gonna push that shit out numb into europe and that the europeans are gonna be like yeah you know what it turns out getting ass fucked by our government and getting global surveillance through cpdc is bullshit let's fight these motherfuckers and i would love to see more than anything see a sincere german nationalist movement renew itself instead of them living in their fucking shame about non-seism and like get that like that shit's over guys and that like germans you actually have some like

really great shit about your culture that if you guys can protect in a meaningful way very similar to americans and still be able to be inclusive with that ideal like there's something great to be done but like living in all this shame about like ooh like we're a bunch of racist nazis because we believe german culture is great is the same kind of bullshit that they're trying to tell us about because you believe in america and what america means it doesn't mean that you're a far-right

racist it means that you're a fucking american that believes in the real values and ethics of what it means to be american so you know fuck this fiat bullshit fuck cbdcs and it's time for us to really start rebuilding in a meaningful and thoughtful way on top of a bitcoin standard because that's really an american standard fucking it fuck yeah man wait can we talk about europeans for a second um because like no no wait wait just for one second because have you noticed that the only

people more confused about what happened in the us election europe and the democrats are the europeans they're like hold on what do you what do you mean don't you understand he's mean and bad and how sad is this these americans how to like it's it's mind-blowing and then you're like god like to your point eric like yeah like i mean like i feel like sometimes i went through the stage like a stage in my life where i was like oh not i love america i love america because i love the

fucking american idea and i love the american people and i love the possibilities that the existence of the american idea allows for people in this country because it allows people to fucking create and build and do meaningful things but i went through a stage where i was like you know this is on my my bitcoin journey where i'm also like well but the fucking military industrial fucking war machine the fucking the fucking fiat monetary colonialism that's perpetuated by the

imf and the world bank like and the federal reserve this is this is bad like and then i got to the point where naturally like five seconds later i was like yeah but that's not america like that's fucking institutions that is us government institutions those are institutions of theft and destruction and death america is a fucking idea and it's the people who hold that idea up and use it as their fucking torch to bring light into darkness and that is what i think people can

get behind and i think you should be able to fucking get behind that like i don't give a fuck what political party you fucking identify with like this week or forever in your entire life like there i don't know if you guys have heard anybody say this before but there is no red there is no blue there is the state and there is you yes there are meaningful differences in political parties obviously there's a difference between come all like what kamala's administration would have been

and what trumps will be but ultimately we are not a divided people we are a people who are united around the idea that america is fucking amazing that idea is fucking amazing and we are going to be fucking damned if we will let the state usurp that idea for its own fucking death and destruction and theft and i think i i hope that more people can get around that and realize that look we're all on the fucking same side there are two sides it is the people the independent individuals

and it is the state there is no other side like there's no there's no other sides you can color the horse a different color but like it's still the state granted again let me caveat there are some differences especially you get down to local governments there's a lot of difference but like we have so much more not to sound fucking cheesy we have so much more that brings us together than then divides us and what brings us together is the idea that america is fucking special

and if it wasn't for fucking america europe would be still have been fucked from those fucking german nazis actual nazis like we have literally pulled europe's own head out of its ass so many times and yet they still look at us like well these you know uncouth barbarians it's like you know fucking right we're uncouth and we're fucking barbarians and there's a reason that you called us when you fucking got your panties in a twist and started murdering like millions of

people because you couldn't handle it on your fucking own you pansies like i love for any europeans listening i fucking love you because you're listening to this and you obviously have a set of balls or maybe not balls you know you may be a lady european but like america is uniquely positioned to drive massive change in the world because of the american idea that is right by the way the thing that's beautiful about america the american ideal what is it right like people

might not know especially if you're from europe the american ideal is i am the king of my own castle i am i am the captain of myself okay i do not have to do anything that you want me to do i'm in charge of me and if what i'm doing doesn't harm anyone i should be completely allowed and i'm well within every right my god given rights to continue doing that thing that is a new idea in the world uh it's it's a baby idea it's only 250 some odd years old and not quite 250 yet

it's only about 250 years old and we have to protect that idea because that's the most important idea in the history of the world thus far and every time i see americans exercise it you know and say wait a second like sometimes americans get caught up in this thing where they're like listening to people they shouldn't be listening to you know they're listening to the television rachel maddow or whoever joy reid uh whoopee goldberg and then they they go wait a second what

they just wake up and they go why have i been listening to this bitch what the fuck am i doing listening to this person i'm just gonna do whatever the fuck i want no i'm doing what i want all right well the hodl's out now because he did what he wanted um look like these are these are really important in the edge of the computer but it's okay it's fine i thought those were dramatic effect that yeah it was good these are really important ideals and

like uh you know uh to to re-emphasize everything that you said walker like it took me a long time on my own journey as an anarchist that like like i'm an i'm an anarchist and i'm american like i fundamentally believe that americans on a whole like we have all of the same value sets like nobody wants to hurt other people nobody wants to be hurt people want to respect each other's right to private property people want to see innovative and creative solutions and and like

let people be freaky and do what they are and so like i i see reactions on both sides it's like look like it if you want to be your gay transgender lizard or like whatever the fuck you want to identify as like that's fucking great good for you like do not come into the fucking schools and try to teach kids that shit like i'm uninteresting that in fact like why the fuck are we doing this school thing like if you look at the the fucking department education you know what every single

standard has been measured to to do each year it goes fucking down that's what it does it teaches kids to be fucking stupid little robots that can't think for themselves like it i find it deeply disturbing when i when my son has friends that are in public school come over and like how fucking remedial they are and how much they they don't there's a certain creativity that they really lack that i find fucking disturbing you know and also on the same side like

just because people want to be weirdos and freaks don't mean that we have to hate on them and remove their right to be fucking weirdos and freaks it's just like don't in the same way that like i'm not gonna put my shit in your face don't put your shit in my face and don't try to use public institutions to do that there's there's no fucking need same thing like i have no fucking interest in deporting people from this country just because they disagree with me on different

principles like we need to learn to live in fucking peace and have a radical moderism between us because without that they're like that that's what america is all about is about being able to figure out how do we live with these ideals that allow for us all the flourish despite how different we are you know like europeans like take a fucking cue from us like you know like we we figured out how to make this shit work you guys are trying to model the same thing but to be very clear uh like what

you guys are doing with the european central bank and the e you and shit like this is not gonna end well for you guys and so i really encourage uh and and like i've noticed this more coming from german specifically like you guys need to redouble in your own nationalism and so far of that like you guys are actual independent countries and you need to stop letting this fucked up institution that got created by a bunch of bureaucrats that told you that everything was going to get better

with it you know like i have an uncle that's lived in berlin since the 1970s and he knows the conversion of when they went from the mark to the euro fucked everybody over super hard and that's how it is kind of universally you guys should really consider taking back national sovereignty destroying the european central bank and probably you know that look like the fact that the thing is ran by an actual fucking financial criminal who has been found guilty of financial crimes

that's pretty fucking ridiculous and it's pretty ridiculous that you guys tolerate this bullshit being shoved down your throat from brussels so i really hope that you guys are gonna light shit on fire because like when you guys commit yourself to burning shit down and like throwing shit at people and other stuff you guys are really good at it like like lean into that like keep doing more of that like stop stop with this other fucking nonsense because uh you know you got you

guys are gonna get something pretty nasty out of it if you guys keep tolerating this bullshit you know what i think the difference between the european mind and the american mind is is that uh in europe for you know thousands of years if you talk back to the nobility they could kill you with impunity right and in america one day we took a look at the nobility and we were like fuck you and we just killed everybody bro you know that's different starting points you know inception yeah

fun fact is that there is an actual amendment to the united states constitution that is still active to be ratified by states that uh if you are given a title of nobility in america you will be stripped of all political rights and positions i think it was the uh because there's like three outstanding articles that that could be ratified by states but like aren't like another it's about like child labor uh the other one's article the first which i've had another great radical plan

of like forcing state legislatures to ratify article the first to be and it's called that because it was the first article to ever be that passed through the congressional approval process and it went to states to get approved but it was never approved and what article the first stipulates is that no representative of the federal government shall ever represent any more than 50 000 people at a time and to be clear if that passed today that would mean that the house of representatives

would be like 7 000 people or some shit like that so that would be really fun if we like got states to pass it just to fuck up the federal government because this is my big thing that i want not only for americans but for europeans and all people everywhere is that like i believe very very strongly it is about states providences and counties against their unified federal government like if you look at what's going on in spain right now after the crisis that happened in valencia and

how much the federal government is absolutely fucking those people over this is where the real war is at so i'd like to see more radicalism of states rights against federal governments across the board and i think that would really help us solve a lot of problems okay eric you mentioned something earlier about uh like just speaking of states rights that if what was it 35 states were to basically resolve internally like as independent states that we should end the fed

that the federal government would basically need to scramble can you elaborate on that a little bit more for those of us who are less constitutionally literate this is all a hypothetical way to be able to ratify the united states constitution directly using state legislatures only nothing has to go through the federal government and it is not supposed to have any oversight this has never happened in american history because every single time that this method has been used to amend the

constitution when it's gotten within two or three states the federal government has essentially flipped the fuck out and congress has passed that amendment to the united states with the same language directly so that this was all circumnavigated there was a supreme court decision in 1908 that essentially said if states tried to do this we wouldn't recognize it but like this is all about creating constitutional crisis because the tenth amendment is very explicit and that any powers

that are not enumerated to the federal government directly in the constitution are reserved for states alone so the whole idea would be essentially be go state by state get the exact same language passed saying that we are calling on an article five convention to amend the united states constitution to end the federal reserve and that the federal government shall have no oversight whatsoever around the issuance of a currency and in theory it could pass for me the big goal is to like get

it past 33 states or something federal government's gonna freak out you're probably gonna have the judicial branch being like no this is illegitimate there's no way to amend the constitution without the federal government we can be like texas what do you think about that they're trying to say that your the sovereignty of your state and what you guys decide isn't okay is that is that something you agree with how do you feel about that nevada why only is this is this okay with you guys because

that for me the the big crisis that happened in america which is where fiat money started in america was during the civil war and and uh as much as everybody likes to suck a abraham lincoln's dick and celebrate him as being a really great guy uh like good job with like ending slavery but like you like really fucked up a lot of other stuff with what you did in that not to mention that like explicitly creating an amendment to the united states constitution that says that other people

can't have slaves but the the state itself can have slaves is pretty fucked up so uh with that i really encourage everybody look into the article five ratification process uh i i really have a boner for the idea using this to like fuck up the federal government across the board because to me this is actually about a radical evolution of the political process that like i think federal politics is fundamentally broken and if there's a way to lateralize a national movement that uses

only states and state legislatures to start amending the constitution or even calling for an article five convention to rewrite the constitution on a whole which is also specifically reserved by article five in the u.s constitution there's actually an opportunity for us to roll back radical federal power destroy the deep state and renew the american dream throughout the globe by essentially creating the american dream with the federal government and the deep state strip from it

so that's kind of my insane idea uh you know let's have a couple lawyers and legal scholars come in here and tell me how i'm fucking insane or wrong or maybe even right but uh as far as i know this is an actual thing that could happen it's just been kind of buried in history for a long time hodl your thoughts i mean listen i'm article five maxi as well uh eric has explained it to me multiple times i just you know i think like in practical terms i just i just don't think we're

gonna be able to do that um yeah it'd be cool it'd be cool if it happened you know i would be for it let's let's talk about some practical terms then because okay uh i want to want to get your guys take on this whole bitcoin strategic reserve thing uh senator okay so you we uh we remember at the bitcoin conference in nashville uh trump gave what i think was honestly incredible stand-up performance like that dude's that dude he riffs like he's he's on a like you cannot

argue with the fact that the dude can fucking what does he call he calls the weave right you know he riffs it's it's impressive it's just very like our team delivery man so i gotta go yeah yeah go go save the delivery man um but and and he talked kind of like we're gonna keep the bitcoin that we have you know we're not gonna sell any of it he didn't like explicitly say we are going to start you know printing fiat to acquire bitcoin he said he would protect the industry though he said a lot

of positive things then as everybody is leaving the stage like after he finished lamas comes up and is like i have a fucking bill right here like i have a bill for the us to establish a strategic bitcoin reserve and like i felt bad because like again like people are like yelling like everyone's leaving the thing like and i'm sitting there like she just like this is fucking actually actually news that lamas is like i've got a fucking bill for this she's been on top of it since then

do you what do you think is the most likely scenario that's going to play out as far as the establishment of a strategic reserve is this something that like trump is going to be all four like once he gets a little more knowledge of it we're like where do you think we're going so the way that trump said it on stage initially is is wrong um and can't happen so the bitcoin that have been seized uh you know by whomever whichever government authority sees them then

there are multiple government authorities that have seized them over time they belong to somebody they have owners right so like most recently the bitfinex hack there was about four billion dollars worth of bitcoin or something um that was seized by the u.s government but that bitcoin all belongs to people and it has to go back to them so you can't use it for your national strategic stockpile right but in general i think the idea of a national strategic stockpile um is something that is

going to happen one way or another i think it's inevitable um whether it goes on the central banks balance sheet or whether it's put into the hands of uh you know uh the executive branch i'm not sure but you know america is going to acquire a large swath of bitcoin at some point and i think there's a the most interesting thing about it is the prisoner's dilemma of the nation state level game theory around who goes first so if you go first you're the most advantaged right um but for

some reason i i don't think this is widely known and so nobody's gone first yet or maybe it's because we don't have younger people who understand these things or have game this out um is trump's administration and administration where we we can do those things i think maybe i mean jd vance is a bitcoin or vivak is a bitcoin or robert f kennedy jr is a bitcoin or tulsi gabbard is a bitcoin or elan musk is a bitcoin or trump owns a little bit of bitcoin he's dabbled in some you know crypto

bullshit he has his own shitcoin um so yeah i mean there there is a potential that it could happen this time around um i think the most important or the most interesting thing to me is the game theory between other nation states uh and then the thing i was going to mention is in some to some degree i think uh the the bitcoin that's in the public markets is a honeypot for the us government so ms tr is a honeypot for the us government uh the etfs are the pubcote uh you know the public

companies that have bitcoin on treasury um like tesla so those things are things that can be nationalized um in a moment's notice if needed but we're not on a bitcoin standard so the government doesn't need to seize your bitcoin yet uh if fiat starts to collapse they may need to seize your bitcoin or they may seize your bitcoin they'll never need to do it i mean they just will do it right and so yeah i think that's those are my high-level thoughts around everything that you i

assume when you talk about a first mover advantage you're uh discounting el salvador in this particular instance because they do not print their own currency because they are dollarized well it's also too small it's just too small el salvador is a very poor country um they're doing listen they're doing great they're on the upswing but they're not a player in the world they don't mean anything like i mean el salvador is a tiny nothing country with no resources like i i love what's

going on down there for now for now let's let's let's let's let's yeah it's they're very small if you looked at them on the map it's like this big um it's yeah it's russia china america uh france germany those are the countries that one of them needs to go first g7 so i mean like russia has been shifting some of its stances around bitcoin mining and bitcoin more generally recently i mean do you think that like that is like we're gonna see a lot more of that because russia was for a

while very like no we're we're you know not offended this i mean you know it's not the not the freest country in the world let's say and so freedom money tends to be a little bit uh you know it's like oil and water like they don't mix well right but clearly clearly they're realizing the geopolitical significance of bitcoin which is still sitting at like i mean i don't know what the market cap is right now after we know we're we're panping but like you know uh we're we're not over two trillion

yet we're at like what a below a trillion and a half like 1.5 which is which is fucking nothing like in the grand scheme of things like we are still fucking early smaller than apple computer yeah we uh bitcoin did just pass meta though right uh i think like today like i i believe so uh but i don't know that piece of shit company is worth one and a half like what the fuck is wrong with this world i'm sorry like that that is upsetting that so many fucking morons are on that goddamn surveillance

platform giving away their information toward somebody that fucking hates them instagram is very popular with the hose eric very i know and facebook is just very popular with the boomers like i think boomers are the only ones left on facebook i'm honestly convinced which is hilarious because the boomers were the same ones being like this this these facebook's are gonna melt your brains and now they're like you know like this picture of uh donald trump and jesus is incredible like when

did they take this this is amazing like i don't think boomer boomers have really bad ai detection skills also that's a slight digression but it leaves them very vulnerable to manipulation i think it's which is it's also kind of cute and endearing like you know god bless you bought your house for two raspberries and now you're a multimillionaire you know look great in all honesty like i see the next decade is uh like there's there's gonna be this really it's funny because i remember all's at

burning man i'd taken a bunch of acid and i was talking to a younger friend about this and i like went on this crazy diet tribal was like yeah in 30 years we're gonna have like a youth fascist movement that's just gonna be all about like fucking stripping the boomers of their property and like sending them off to the prison camps for liquidation just because people are gonna be so fucking angry at the way that they feel like they were robbed and stolen from so like i don't

know it's very similar to that uh junce's podcast where where he talked to that that young scammer worse like he was amazing he was pretty indifferent to the way he was ripping people off and like and all honestly like young young people have like a pretty good point like yeah like if an ai boomer if a boomer can't tell the difference between like donald trump and an ai bot and you can rip him off doing that like why shouldn't you like yeah he made his millions of dollars from watching

his house inflate you know because of how fucked up the monetary system is so why shouldn't you just engage in outright graft i'm not saying that that's right in any for way meaningful way like it's an honest and open-ended question that frankly i've really struggled with uh like meaningfully answering to them because like yeah this system has absolutely fucked you and robbed you and there is no meaningful way that you are going to crawl out of the hole that you've been

forced to live in so like i don't i don't know what you can really do to try to protect yourself other than get yourself on a bitcoin standard but you probably shouldn't be robbing people because that's fucked up do you think that's true though like didn't you feel that way when you were 1819 because i did i felt like the boomers had pulled up the ladder uh they got rich selling houses back and forth through each other we were never going to be able to do the same thing etc etc and then

god was just like boom here's here's digital coins bitch and i was like oh fuck this is amazing i'm richer than these guys could have ever dreamed yeah so i mean for me personally like something on the horizon you know for me personally yeah but like i and like this is one of the things i always struggle with is that like we're in an extremely unique position you know cross but like that's one of the reasons i didn't just like take the money and run is that like i feel a real

obligation towards speaking to the very real power that this has to like write the economy in a meaningful way again and with that being said like if i was 20 years old looking at the economy right now like i would very sincerely be trying to build a career as probably both a drug dealer and a scammer just because i'd look at the world and be like why the fuck should i participate in any of this goddamn non like you want me to fork out 400 000 to get a fucking bachelor's degree

while you got that shit for free like why the fuck shouldn't i just set fire to everything and watch it burn because what do i have to win in this system like oh like i i can work for 30 fucking years so i can get a down payment on a home that then i'll spend the next 30 fucking years trying to pay off scraping by like i think shit is really really fucked up and i think the only reason that kids aren't outraged is because they're so dopamine addicted to the scrolling that they

can't even pull their head far enough out of the phone to stop and look around and go gee shit's really fucking bad but that terrifies them so they look back at the phone and keep scrolling um um so i think shit's kind of sad right now but uh you know like i i hope i'm wrong and that it's not actually that dark out there but from the from the young people that i speak to like there isn't a rage about it there's like a very real defeat that like they have been beaten down

into a cage that like they're just doing their best to figure out how to be in so uh while i do agree that i did feel that way when i was younger like i very sincerely feel like i just like found the fucking glitch in the system and i remember like picking it up and being like there's no fucking way that like magic internet money is gonna become the global standard of the future and like make a difference in the 2024 presidential election and the funniest thing is is that like

there was no political conversation about bitcoin in my opinion up until about 2016 like there was no conceivable difference you know like crypto didn't even exist on a whole there was a bunch of shit coin copies like litecoin and feather coin and shit but it was only with the premiere of ethereum that that bitcoiners were like hang on like we're trying to like make a kind of money that you can't fuck with and they're like yeah like i thought i thought this was the whole thing

that we could just like make up clown coin and like make a bunch of money and i was like oh i think we have like different ethics here and they're like huh so like you don't want any clown coin i was like no i'm good luck with that though now i mean you know i i think that okay so one thing is did you see the um the scammers who got caught for 250 million they they they hit up a genesis creditor for 250 million did you see that story oh yeah yeah wasn't this a while ago

that they they just you know it was like he had like fucking uh like 2fa like through text or some shit and they just yes they posed as i think they posed as genesis or so i can't remember how the scam worked but anyway like they got 250 million dollars in bitcoin off of the sky um and it wasn't that long ago it was like six months ago or something and then what did they do they went out to the clubs in miami in l.a and they started buying only fans girls berkin bags and lamborghini's

and whatever and my favorite text message from the thread is by the way and then the fbi caught them two months later because everybody who's ever seen good fellas knows you don't go out and buy a fucking pink catalac day one are you fucking retarded robert deniro is gonna whack you okay kids don't watch oldies anymore they don't watch yeah the answers are all there they gave you the answers he bought a pink lambo for a girl that is in good fellas the guy does that and then he

gets whacked anyway um also like she's not gonna bang you either way bro like that's like the most beta fucking movie you can make seriously dude so there's a text message from the girl and uh he goes hey uh what's up i bought you a fucking pink lambo urus you want it let's be friends whatever and she's like uh hello um i have a boyfriend you know and it's like dude you are gonna get ass raped in federal prison for the next 10 years and you couldn't even get the girl to

sleep with you after you bought her a fucking Lamborghini you know why it's because when you earn money that way girls know they know that you're a fucking loser they can feel it they can sense it right and so like she didn't want to have anything to do with you so it's like you would you get out of the what did you get out of the score bro you went to fucking rodeo drive and wore some gay louis vettane shit for a little bit and we're in the nightclub fucking sipping on fucking cosamigo

fucking don who lit whatever the fuck like what that's nothing not to digress or nothing bro come on but like if you want to like get rich and make a bunch of money to like get all the the hot bitches like i i got news for you like it's not it's not gonna work in any meaningful way and like you're actually gonna find yourself in like a super bitch beta position where you're gonna be like huh like i just like drove this girl in my Porsche over to this guy's house that she's like not that

this isn't my boyfriend it's just a trainer dude this is your trainer dude this is Pilates instructor it's cool man the only guy from worker glutes bright bro it's i'm good you know she needs me to pick her up in a half hour so i'm just i'm gonna hang out at this coffee shop just because i wonder why she's doing only a half hour of Pilates though that's kind of strange doesn't seem like enough to get burned no dude it's it's more intense sweat dude if you do it that way it's what but and look

like the this is all part of the general nihilism that's playing out because like when when you get when you get that money when you get money that easily that quickly through doing dumb shit like scamming like it you're you're not gonna like stop me like whoa like i i finally got the lot of tickets to get out of here like i'm gonna i'm gonna buy a couple laundry mats and maybe like uh you know like a driving range and a couple other places that can really generate some cash flow for

me no you're gonna do like a bunch of retarded shit like that and you're gonna blow the money and like this is one of the things i love the most about bitcoin it's like look bit like bitcoin doesn't solve cash flow problems or if like you don't have any meaningful like model that you're operating from the world from like if if you can't save money like you will not have any fucking bitcoin but like if you're somebody who's like thoughtful and saving money and you like a 401k and you've

like played their game and gotten fucked by that like bitcoin's gonna be hugely helpful for you because like now you're actually gonna have a like savings that like does the thing it's supposed to do so good on you um and also like i'm sorry for all the younger kids that are getting fucked by this system that hates them like you really should be on only a bitcoin standard and if you're not like i i would love to hear your solution on why we're fucking dumb and and you have the solution

because as far as i can tell you're gonna work at a starbucks for the next 30 years and live in your mom's basement and like maybe maybe if you want a family you'll have like a chihuahua or something like look i got two dogs right now like these motherfuckers eat like nobody's business so like get a really small dog that like you you like don't need to like feed a lot of food to you know what though it's all mentality truly it's like um people don't when you talk about like having

children and and caring about yourself for the future and you know making money and how making money is a good thing younger people are just straight up confused right and to us that's like that's the default that we grew up in um those are our values and yeah but younger people are like what is this some sort of like trad like trad trad movement thing dude and you're like what this is called being a normal person retard what are you talking about yeah and it's because it's

so like they haven't heard it they've been being dude if you go to public school you have been being lectured by cat ladies eight hours a day for a fucking 15 years okay like and they have like fucking unicorn fairy tattoos on them and stuff and they're like donald trump is a racist that's what you've been dealing with okay so you come out of that and then andrew tates like if you want to be a fucking man you go i have a fucking vulgar and then you go fuck this is fucking speaking to

me dude right like whereas when we were young that was just like common sense it's like yeah sports cars and hot chicks like that's what we like like the fuck nobody needs to tell you that dude like yeah i feel really fucking bad for younger people like particularly like if you're like a young guy going through puberty and like you want to like go talk to this girl but you're all nervous because you watch all this like cancel culture shit like now you're too terrified to ever go talk to her

and now like you haven't talked to any girls in your whole life and you want to but you can't so like you feel like total fucking wiener and then like somebody's like well if you feel like a wiener and like being a man's really hard like maybe you're a woman and they're like maybe i am a woman and like it's it's fucked up it's it's really wrong and like a lot of times these poor kids just need somebody to be like yeah like you need to go talk to the woman she could possibly like get really

upset and sue you or some shit but chances are she's just gonna think you're kind of weird and you'll feel uncomfortable and walk away you know being blown out and like that's okay that that's part of life it's okay when a woman rejects you it doesn't define you as a human being i'm not supposed to say this but if you're a teenage boy uh go out and get a little drunk and do donuts in a parking lot okay i'm not supposed to say that you probably shouldn't do it it's great advice it's terrible

advice it's great advice you should probably do it you know man like in an empty parking lot empty don't go on the road just some donuts and honestly if you live in the mid yeah and if you live in the midwest like wait until like you've got a little bit of snow there wait until it's a little bit slick it's much safer to do the donuts when your wheels are actually sliding versus you're like burning rubber so that that see we're tempering the donut advice with some good midwestern you know uh

logical advice there you know uh i think and hodl i know you've got a you've got a hard stop coming up soon i think we may need to do an entire other show about uh the fact that uh you know who hates homeschooling and who has had homeschooling illegal for a long time germany germany thank you hodl it's it's i appreciate you knew where i was going with that and you know who implemented that it was the fucking nazis why did they implement the fact that you can't it is illegal for you to homeschool

your kids for you to raise and instruct your kids at home because they wanted to fucking control the narrative and control your kids and indoctrinate them and make them good little fucking hitlers youth nazis and then we can go back a little bit further to the prussian system of education which is like what kind of was the genesis of the you know nazi system which is we want to control create great little worker bees and great little soldiers and the only way we can do that

is if we have control of them from the first time they're able to fucking formulate a word until they are of a you know an age where it's appropriate to send them off to fucking work until they die or fight until they die i digress a little bit but the point is that if you don't like homeschooling you're a nazi and i mean that literally not like that everyone's a nazi thing like you're literally agreeing with what the nazis wanted so congratulations you're a literal nazi not a figurative nazi

that's i just wanted to get that off my chest a little bit guys i'm as a homeschooled guy myself who then went to public school because my parents uh said it's your fucking decision do what you want to do they didn't swear at me at that time they just said it's your decision but i added the fucking but that was a fucking trip getting into public school and realizing i thought i was going to be real stupid that was like my big worry where i was like mom and dad i think i should go to public

school like what if i'm not as smart as the other kids they're always all my friends that i play sports with they're always doing homework and all this extra work like they've got to be way ahead of me and they're like okay that's your decision you can decide to do that but like you've got to you know like it's your it's your choice so anything that comes out it's your you know your responsibility okay and then i got to school and i was like oh my god everybody is fucking stupid holy shit

they are catering to the lowest common denominator and this is a fucking joke um i dig and i'm not even like that smart like i was smart enough to be a valedictorian and like kind of a bumble fucky town but that's like you know like you're the you're the skinniest kid at fat camp you know what i mean like it's like okay like nice nice job but like you're still fat like all these kids from her high school listening right now be like hey i'm not gonna fuck you i often watch my glue and he

sniffed it i thought we were friends i knew some fucking great fucking people and there were also some great fucking teachers in there who actually were like fuck this administrative bullshit i'm just gonna actually teach these kids they were also the teachers always getting in trouble with the administration for like you're not following the curriculum you know like but and like i fucking love the small town that i grew up in because there are fucking great people there

the point is that the public school system did no one any favors uh and you know what you just don't fucking need it man you should do like an hour or two of school a day and you'll be fucking good that's all i did and then i went and started fires like not pyro fires but like i like to start controlled fires who doesn't you know what i mean that's part and if you're a young guy listening to this and you've never just gone and started a fire fucking it go and start a fire because no

self-respecting woman will marry you unless you can start a fire like and do i'm doing a metal trash can though or like yeah somewhere that you're not gonna start force fire you know like smoke your bare head again not pyromaniac fires start controlled fires learn how to control them and be a responsible member of society who knows how to make flame like fucking hey that's the only reason that we started drinking bone marrow that was actually cooked and had our brains grow and

you want to spit on that i don't think so i've digressed a little bit but it felt like i needed to digress a little bit to get us off track enough for hodl for me to allow you to make a graceful exit here how much more time you got you got time for one last thought i got like five more minutes i can do okay okay so tribe's okay do it first i just want to say thank you to everybody who tuned in on this no-ster only live stream fuck youtube fuck live stream on twitter fuck wherever

else you can live stream like twitch i've never used it but i hear the kids do all these sats that you guys have sent which is almost 50 000 sats which is awesome i'm going to send them all to open sats and provide receipts so thank you guys for doing that we're going to fund some open source development while shitting on ridiculous people um closing thoughts gentlemen hodl you want to kick us off yeah let me think about this here for a second um what are my closing thoughts i think i i i think

in general you got to just keep living man no i got nothing yeah you don't you don't have to have any you already dropped so much wisdom um well okay you eric first eric what about you what do you want to leave people look uh trump getting elected was like a the whole market was like waiting to see whether or not we're going to go into like socialism hell or if there's going to be an opportunity for something meaningful to happen uh now something meaningful is going to happen and bitcoin's going

to rip super fucking hard in the next six months and so like if you've been like i've been like stacking a little here and there but i got my 401k like you don't have enough fucking coin you're gonna want more coin later and you should stack harder um so you should really consider about like put you know like stop messing around like fucking shove it in like like put the whole thing in and enjoy what it means and be like fucking go for it in addition to uh you know you should

really think for yourself you know like no nobody actually has all of the right fucking answers and if you actually spend some time and energy thinking hard about what your values are and what you want for the world and for yourself you're probably going to come to some great conclusions uh you know so i really hope that more of you are gonna fly your freak freak flags and like do your own thing walker you're a great example you're just doing the bitcoin podcast just so i like the

fact that bitcoin podcasts were saturated as fuck you were just like you know what i'm gonna try my own fucking thing turns out people like you and like listen to you so so even if it seems in other people are like hey this is saturated there's too many people like go do you and what you're supposed to like that's what the world wants that's where you're gonna find your power and that's where you're

gonna make the most money don't wait for somebody to be like you need a college degree and to suck five dicks at this offer to get a job to practice slow like find like find the fucking hack figure out the way that you can actually go do the thing that you want to do what is the world wants for you and other people want for you the system does not fucking want for you like realize that right now you're gonna be way fucking ahead for yourself so i hope to to see all of you young entrepreneurs

with the production of all of the great and wonderful things that you will be accepting only on a bitcoin standard because you're smart enough that you don't want to get fucked holding a bunch of fiat that's going to go to zero that's the end of that what i have to say i have a fucking i actually do have something to say i was i was thinking about this i i think going into the bull market an important message for people that they need to be aware of is that yes you should go hard

i you know that there's that clip of me on walker show saying stack your fucking ass off and all that and like yes you should go hard you should you should be here you should be fully committed to this and you should be you know investing a significant portion of what you have available all true um but you know in bull markets people take leverage and leverage is something that people mistakenly think is a time machine to being an og um and it's not and you know we've seen a lot of

people get wrecked so if you are going to take leverage be extremely careful um it's it's one of those things that like if you warn enough people about doing it the people that you know ignore all the warnings and walk through all the warning signs anyway and then go do it and succeed they were always meant to succeed but for the vast majority of people like you won't succeed you know what i mean so like you really should heed the warning and only you know if you're

that person or not and everybody thinks they are that person but you only find out you're not that person who can walk through all the warning signs until you get fucking destroyed so don't get destroyed you know what i mean like by the way this is being said by the man who made a bitcoin by betting the man who had the leverage platform that his leverage platform would go bankrupt within a year and it fucking did so just saying that hodl might actually know a little bit about

what the fuck he's talking about so with that please don't go long and slam your fucking dick in the door because there's a 10 drawdown which could very well happen when we hit an all time high and your retarded ass did a 10x long and didn't realize that that's what happens you get fucking liquidated when the price goes down so don't be fucking retarded and lose a little bit of bitcoin that you have because you thought that you could get more bitcoin because you were smarter

you're not you're a normal fucking person who will hurt yourself if you do that so sorry i just really wanted to add no 100 and two cardinal sins here in bitcoin you need to be aware of heading into the bull market is number one not being bullish enough on bitcoin that's the biggest sin it's the biggest sin anyone can make number two unfortunately is being too bullish on bitcoin so you got a strike to balance right in the middle there because if you're on either side you're

getting fucking wrecked okay so the best way to do that stack your bitcoin hodl your bitcoin do it in self custody do it in cold storage do it with a multi sig don't go crazy on this these products these mstu and btu and fucking these leverage products you can now get access to in the markets don't go crazy on mstr stock don't go crazy on shitcoins or meme coins you know everybody has a plan i've met a lot of guys who had a plan to get to 100 bitcoin uh who ended up with zero

bitcoin right so like try not to be one of those guys you know if your plan has three elaborate steps that involve you hitting a one in a million shot three times you're not going to execute that plan man i i couldn't execute it i don't i don't know why you think you're good enough to i don't know why anyone would ever think they're good enough to like you know be smart i've got a fucking three step plan and it's called dca yes fucking like literally guys none of us are as smart as we

think we are um and like that's good like you being too smart is just a pain that's why you know that's why you need to drink and stuff uh but like literally just like just fucking dca like it's actually like just this gco like you can just buy bitcoin set up a daily dca buy and then set up an hourly dca buy and it'll just split the difference and you will be in large profit in the long term and i have not been around as long as you guys been around since 2020 and i just dollar cost average

and you know what it works again i try to create some value and eric to your point i i i i appreciate that that you that you see this journey that i'm on creating another fucking bitcoin podcast but i just want to say until there are more bitcoin podcasts than insufferable fucking finance bro podcasts there are not enough bitcoin podcasts we need to this needs to be the flippening where bitcoin podcasts are more plentiful than fucking finance bro like here here's the real

you know real estate stock stocks that you should buy that'll generate some passive income for you when you're 401k it's like jesus fucking christ grow some balls and buy some bitcoin guys um yeah listen i fucking appreciate you guys thanks for hopping on here uh this this was a very enjoyable time and i know that people fucking love hearing from both of you guys because you are principal dudes who always laid out straight and uh we are we are very blessed to have you in this

fucking strange community of people and it's great to fucking hang out with you guys and i hope we can do it in fucking person over a beer again soon um but yeah hodl get the fuck out of here case it uh i'm you guys for everyone listen i'm gonna kill this live stream now and we're gonna just to make sure these guys are uploaded so fucking love you all thanks for joining i'm kelly and now and that's a wrap on this bitcoin talk episode of the bitcoin podcast you are a bitcoin only

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