The Ultimate Guide to Dry Fasting: Unlocking Healing, Energy, and Performance with Sean McCormick

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Today's guest is Sean McCormick, a true pioneer in the world of biohacking and personal optimization. As a host of the widely acclaimed Optimal Performance Podcast, Sean has spent years diving deep into the cutting-edge tools, practices, and philosophies that help individuals achieve. their highest potential, both mentally and physically. Sean's expertise spans everything from advanced fasting protocols to no tropics, and he's been a leading voice in exploring the benefits of dry fasting.

a practice that challenges the boundaries of traditional health paradigms. Not only has he studied the science behind it, but he's also lived it, incorporating dry fasting into his personal wellness routines. In fact, Sean recently helped guide me through my first five-day dry fast, offering invaluable insights and support throughout the process. His hands-on expertise and unique perspectives make him the perfect person to help us unpack the truths.

myths, and nuances of this controversial yet intriguing health practice. Whether you're a seasoned biohacker or just fasting curious, you're in for a fascinating conversation. with one of the most insightful voices in the health and wellness space. Please welcome... sean mccormick whoa wow i better live up i better bring dude i better bring the noise today that was quite an intro quite an intro quite an intro so what hasn't been said that that was

What hasn't been covered in the intro? A lot. You guided me through one of the more powerful health and biohacking experiences I've participated in in a long time. I've thanked you before and I'll thank you again. It was, it was transformational. I feel like the downloads are still coming. Yes. And I mean, we had our whole family over for Christmas a couple of days ago. It's like.

the middle of January right now. Yeah, you're a little late. But no, my uncle was dealing with some cancer and we wanted him to be able to participate in Family Christmas. We didn't want to do it without him. So we had to get him through the cancer. and he's good now he was there hanging out you know he was breathing some oxygen on an oxygen concentrator but we figured why not wait our christmas tree looks looks a little bit more like a weeping willow than a christmas tree at the moment but um

Yeah, man. I mean, I felt fantastic. It was great having everybody over. I did my first sauna since the Dry Fast. I felt like things are still moving. out of my body i mean you saw the jar of of of urine that i collected after i started rehydrating and we'll we'll talk about all that but i think let's give people a base of of

some of the differences like what is the difference between dry fasting and how does it differentiate itself from other forms of fasting such as water fasting juice fasting intermittent fasting kind of give give our audience that may not be familiar with this tool the 30,000 foot view. Yeah. I'll give you a really broad, broad perspective on this. So dry fasting is literally not consuming anything, no liquids, no solids. for 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11 days or longer.

And this is not a new concept. You know, this was originally sort of toyed with and written about as far back as 1769. The Russians are really responsible. Yeah, the Russians are really the pioneers on this, and they've done the most research on it. They're using it therapeutically in Mongolia. It's spread out from there.

This is not new. It goes obviously further back than 1769 to... um religious texts every seminal religious texts include some for some form or or fashion of fasting um you know i think most people are familiar with ramadan in which It is a dry fast for an entire moon cycle. Now you can refeed and rehydrate each evening when the sun goes down, but sun up to sundown, no food, no water.

The idea is, and some of the research suggests, that when you – I think the key difference between dry fasting and like a water fast – Water fast is what most people are familiar with, and I know a lot of your listeners have tried it, right? Two days, three days, five days. You and I both, how many have you done water fasts? The longest water fast I'd done was a five-day.

And I thought it was pretty hard at the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Compared to this, it's not. Yeah. Most people, it's very popular in the biohacking space. in health space the key distinction is that when you ingest even the slightest bit of liquid it activates your your digestive processes and thus your vital organs. So if you are drinking a little bit of water going through down your esophagus into your digestion,

you're still consuming something. And so your body activates to accommodate for that. So most people, myself included, who have done, oh, probably 15 or 20 water only fasts with, you know. gallons of Topo Chico and minerals and, you know, sometimes amino acids was my favorite when I was also adding amino acids to it. I would still get... caffeine headaches i would still get food cravings sugar cravings

And I believe that that's because your system is not quite slipped into that aggressive autophagy that dry fasting provides. And so – I'm with you on that. After having done it, I'm with you on that. It's totally different. It's totally different. Like, I'm a big fan of nicotine and caffeine. I just threw some nicotine in. Yeah. I mean, I've got a lipper in right now. Like, I love this stuff.

Neuroprotectin, nootropic. It's really powerful stuff. I didn't have a single craving for nicotine when I did my dry fast, and I assume you didn't either. I was shocked. No, no. I mean, obviously you're not consuming any caffeine, which I like and enjoy caffeine, paraxanthine, that category and nicotine. Same thing. I thought I was going to be wiped or tired.

But I'm like, oh, it's either clearing out, resetting some of these drive centers in my brain, or I'm using it much more electively than I thought. Right. What dry fasting – I mean there's tons of literature. We can go so many different ways and to be totally honest, I'm not the super memory –

So, you know, facts and figures and studies and citations and stuff is not is not my strong suit. I think we've got enough data dump podcasts out there these days that just talk like robots. I'm a robot. I'm citing studies like a robot. Like people know where to get. those they're probably if that's their thing they're not here

Okay, good. Oh, God, that takes a huge load off, dude. I really appreciate that because what I think the greatest benefits in addition to weight loss. detoxification, an ultimate and comprehensive gut reset, a sort of palate reset. you know a clearing out and the starvation of dysfunctional cells um you know a parasite cleanse a gallstone cleanse you know the uh

you know, that's all great. Like the physical benefits are absolutely insane. And we have the pictures to prove what comes out of your body. And like I mentioned earlier, I did blood work before and after. The day before my five-day and two days after because I wanted to be rehydrated when I gave blood. And, you know, in addition to a bunch of markers improving, going from, you know, almost optimal to optimal range, I also got a 200-point testosterone boost in five freaking days.

And my physique shifted dramatically. The before and after photos that I took. uh my body has stayed leaner going back to the same sort of animal-based diet that i did uh prior to my dry fast which was now seven months ago even beyond the physical benefits you know uh autoimmune, anti-inflammatory, you know, starving cancer cells, detoxifying, I believe, I believe.

that there is a detoxification of spike proteins for those who accepted the injections. And above and beyond all of that, there is also... a do hard shit mantra through this there is also and i can attest to this too profound profound moments of clarity

and spiritual experiences, deep, deep experiences in my consciousness that we can unpack. But this is superior to water fasting. The studies from, you know, Filanov and Shenakov, you know, Professor Nikolaev, the studies all prove that stuff out. But above and beyond, this is. outside the allopathic model, which is what I love maybe the most about it, that this is decentralized.

health. This is health sovereignty. I'm going to choose to do something for my body that is going to have these immense benefits and add years to my life and potentially cure some of the things that ill me. And in the process, I'm going to learn a lot about myself. And so I think that this is going to be extremely popular in like three to five years. There's, you know, it's been mentioned on Rogan, Mark Bell.

You know, it's starting to trickle out a little bit for the people that are way ahead of the curve like you and I. But this is going to be a pretty regular thing here soon. Absolutely will. And I think that.

The biohacking space has become misled with this obsession towards addition by addition. And there's not a lot of people that can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars. on their wellness or even more in some cases that like, if you're spending that much, you're probably doing the wrong shit, bro. Right. Well, and, and, and the tests that you've created and your protocols.

is very specific, right? You're looking at what people actually need, right? You're deficient in this, you're deficient in that, you have too much of this. So it's highly targeted.

But most people, you know, go-getters or meatheads or, you know, optimal performers, those people could very easily spend a couple thousand bucks a month on this supplement or this protocol or... you know um you know energy medicine at a at a clinic and it's just not accessible for most people but everybody can sit and fast and wait and it's not addressing what i think is probably the biggest

true deviator from health and killer, which is toxicity. It gets called cancer. It gets called heart disease. It gets called neurodegenerative disease, but toxins. And the associated and resulting infections of those toxins are the things that really mess people up. And stopping putting junk in your body that takes you out of detoxification and moves you into digestion.

is the first step. And we've talked about how Dr. Filanov feels like one day of dry fasting is equivalent to three days of water fasting. I'm not even convinced that there's a connection. I think they're different things. I agree with that. Yeah, I do. I do. And I think a lot of it is attributable to

The not just the physical reactions, the physical benefits, you know, we haven't even talked about the stem cell release that starts occurring on day four, which in and of it. Can you give us an overview of that? What's happening? We know day one, you've said there's like a regeneration of the intestines. Can you talk about like big picture what's happening? And then also some of the things that you experienced along the way in that five, or if we want to continue.

You know, after rehydration and refeeding the periods that follow. Yeah. Day one, you get a new gut lining. And and so the old dysfunctional. lining of your gut gets basically sloughs off and then ends up in your bowels. And again, I have the pictures to prove it. By day two, you're starting to get into autophagy. By day three, you're starting to get into deep ketosis, especially for people who are fat adapted already or have done some preparation before going into the dry fast.

through whether it's activated charcoal or psyllium husk or some of these preparations beforehand. If you're already... you know kind of keto or or ability to be uh fat adapted by day three you are getting into very, very deep ketosis. So by day three, your gut has started to heal and regenerate a new intestinal lining. You've started this process of autophagy, which for people that aren't familiar is like getting rid of old cells.

that aren't working well, that aren't producing energy the way they're supposed to. Maybe they're too toxic. They're just like the lazy workers at the factory that aren't pulling their weight. They're getting killed and fired. You know what I mean? Killed if it's like Mongolia. You're Genghis Khan. And then now you're starting to move into actually burning a cleaner fuel source, burning your body's fat.

and rather than burning glucose for energy. Did I say that right? Did I screw something up? Nope, you've got that right. And I would take it a step further. This is not just the lazy factory workers being tossed outside.

You could get morbid about it. They're thrown into the furnace to create additional energy for the system. Nice. They're being used to fuel your energy. They're being used to... uh their water gets extracted you know that that metabolic water that endogenous water is being is getting extracted and flushed out you know most people would be surprised to hear that you continue to urinate through the entire

five-day process and uh so by day you know by day three and there's a there's a cutoff You know, that that the Philanoff writes about extensively, which says, like, if you get if you get past the date, the third day, you can't really quit on day four.

Because what happens on day four is your femurs begin to release stem cells. The stem cells that are housed in the long bones of your legs, which are there for... moments like this where you are you know essentially starving uh they're released to heal to regenerate to uh uh to go to the places in your body where injuries have happened. You know, your scar tissue is being scrubbed.

for water. And I've got anecdotes around women doing dry fasting and their stretch marks changing in color, filling in your teeth. can fill in, you know, chips from, from a cracked filling can, can fill in, you know, that happened to one of the people in our group. And it also happened to, to a gal that did a, the dry fast the same time that I did over the, over last summer. Which is insane to think about a tooth actually regenerating. In a couple of days. Yeah. Yeah. So on that day four.

When when it's you've got to really push through day four to get to day five days, four and five, you get the first stem cell release. And, you know, I can speak personally. I felt it. I felt great, too. Yeah. Like mid morning day four, I got like this boost of energy and I was like, whoa, suddenly I feel pretty alert. I feel like I should go now downstairs and maybe. fold some laundry and play with my kids a little bit more. That stem cell proliferation, you feel. Day five is where

the entirety of that first release of stem cells occurs. That happens again if you extend that fast to day seven, you get another wave of stem cells from your femurs. Day four and day five is where you are detoxing heavy metals, zombie cells. These are cells that are dead but still around. These zombie cells, these senescent cells, they require energy to fuel. They actually recruit other zombie cells together. And when you starve them of food and water...

You just get rid of them. You just pee them out. And again, you can capture your pee at the end of the fast and actually see physically, like you and I both did, you can see a layer of... silt at the bottom of your urine which are these you know uh intracellular uh toxins right this is That probably don't come out with a water-only fast or other types of fast that aren't this challenging. Exactly. Yeah.

You know, there's some other things that you can and I really strongly suggest people do, which are enemas, enema or enemas on days four and five to really see. What was hanging out in your body that you no longer serves you that you don't need anymore. You know, I got picture. We got pictures from some of the participants. You know, we're crazy. Yours were part of what sold me on it. Yeah.

gallstones parasites yeah i mean alien alien looking fuckers yeah that are just hanging out there and and the cool part about that way to uh cleanse your body and release those parasites is We need parasites because they eat heavy metals. Like we need them. They're there for a reason. But if you kill them or you do like a niacin flush and they break open, they release all of that sequestered heavy. metals instead if you starve them to death and excrete them that way

They don't have that same release of heavy metals back into your system. They just sort of like shrivel up and then you 86 them with an enema of which you can see physically.

carrying it out of your body they keep it encapsulated part of the reason that they're there a lot of people don't realize this and they get the order of operations all wrong they're like oh i'm pretty sure i have parasites or i think i have parasites because i'm dealing with gut symptoms they do these parasite cleanses antimicrobials, anti-herbals, anti-helmetics.

or even natural things like niacin, like you said, and then they rip open the packaging that was actually keeping the heavy metals and toxins out of our blood, out of our brain, away from our vital organs, and they feel horrible. Whereas if they just did a structured guided in a group, I don't think this is something that anyone should be doing on their own for five days. There's no chance I would have made it for five days on my own.

And I think that people trying to cut corners and pinch pennies are going to be disappointed because it doesn't feel like five days. It feels like a month. Yeah. And you need support and you need to be able to ask questions. And it's helpful to hear everybody's experiencing the same physical challenges, psychological challenges, sometimes spiritual challenges. And it keeps you in the game that which is in your best interest. Well, and this is what our ancestors did.

you know uh you didn't you didn't starve alone unless you were banished out of the tribe like if if the tribe wasn't eaten you're not eaten so you're going through this this process together And it feels good to know that there are other people, other bold people who are also doing this with you, who are sharing their stories, what, you know, their triumphs, their setbacks. It really does.

create a cool community of people who are like-minded who want to do something for their body where everyone in their life including their spouses and their best friends are calling them crazy like Don't do it, Sean. You're going to die. If you don't have water for three days, you're going to die. Everyone who's watched an episode of Man vs. Wild thinks you can't go three days without water, more than three days.

heard they've watched like a survival 101 show right and heard some like heard some like johnny i like to practice survival tell them the rule of threes it's not true not absolutely not true No, it's not. There are people doing 11 days, 12 days, even more. I've come across people now doing way longer than that. Yeah. Drive fast, no water, no food, and they're fine. They're healthier.

We're not look and let's just real quick say we're not doctors. This is not medical advice. This is entertainment purposes only. You guys know the deal. You know why we have to say these things. So we're saying it. And it's true. This is entertainment purposes only. But we do believe in giving you guys autonomy and control of your own health.

this may be one of the tools you want to research and consider from an entertainment perspective. Right. Yeah, we aim to be entertaining for people during this conversation. You know, your body makes water. I think that we forget that. I think a lot of folks are just not familiar that our cells make the best water around, right? And so...

The fact that you're urinating the entire five days or longer, seven days, is a testament to the fact that you are still creating water. You're creating perfect water. And it's not coming from outside the system. Right. Right. And by doing so, you are flushing out. You are repairing injuries. and scars, you are getting a brand new gut. I wrote down a couple of the things. So I'm going to talk about, these are from the citations.

that the research provides. Hypertension, heart disease, COPD, asthma, IBS, prostate adenoma, skin allergies, resistance to drug therapy, neurosis, depression. utilizes abnormal cells, softens cholesterol and tartar on your teeth, stimulates the immune system, disease recovery. You know, that's all happening because your body... was created to function at a very high level, to heal itself, to regenerate, to get rid of

external toxins in your environment, heal injuries, repair organs. Your body knows what to do. And it always has known what to do. But we are... So indoctrinated by a certain type of medicine, by a certain type of, it's not even health optimization anymore. It's a certain paradigm at which you need more stuff. You need. more drugs you need more pharmaceuticals you need more surgeries you need more treatments you need more chemo more and more and more and more and more

And the fact is that the body in its divine intelligence knows what to do. And we're just getting in the way, you know, through bad water, bad food, you know, bad air quality. And a lot of those things are only compiling an already high toxic burden. Exactly. Exactly. What I will be interested to see over the next coming years is how

we can amplify the post-fast process to be dialing in really just like the perfect types of new additions back into the system after this period. Whether that's deuterium depleted water or hyperbaric oxygen therapy or, you know, herbs and tinctures, you know. So that's where I think this gets really interesting because you're getting a bit of a clean slate. You're getting a brand new gut.

amplified and upgraded immune system. All of these things that were in dysfunction of certain levels before the fast are now better. I'm not saying it's going to cure you of everything, but you're better off than you were five days ago. And now there is an opportunity to consciously choose what you want to put back into your body. And I don't know about you, but the first time that I had sugar.

After my dry fast, it felt like the blueberry that I had was like too much. It was so sweet. My palate was like, whoa. I got like a head buzz from it. Like, so adding stuff back in is a food into, unto itself. is something that should be considered, but also the habits that you have, the people that you surround yourself with, your devotion to a religious or a spiritual practice, you are literally a different person.

And that's why August Dunning, who really popularized dry fasting here in the West, Todd calls it the Phoenix Protocol because you get sort of broken down to your most sort of basic essential elements. And then you're kind of, again, Lazarus coming back. And with new ideas and a fresh perspective, you know, and I'll point everybody to August Dunning's YouTube channel and you can do what I did, which is go watch.

august dunning's youtube channel and start at his oldest video when he first was like hey everybody my name is august dunning i'm just gonna do this thing called the uh five day drive fast i'm calling it you know there's there's research there I'm just kind of in dysfunction. I'm feeling low energy. I'm wrinkly and I don't feel good and I want to do something about it. And then watch it backwards from his oldest to his newest. And you can watch that dude, Benjamin Button.

I mean, he de-ages before your eyes one four-minute video at a time. And he's now doing, I think he's doing two fasts a year. He's kind of changed and modified some of his approaches. First, it was like seven days is really the thing. But I think he realized that that's not as accessible for people than a five-day. And now he's doing regular five-day fasts. But you can actually see physical evidence that this is working. And I think that that's super powerful.

And the evidence is abound. I mean, we had a woman in your group that had her first period in 11 months. Think about that. Right? So the August Dunning book is the Phoenix Protocol. And you mentioned his YouTube channel for people that are video oriented and want to see this with their eyes. There's also the. The book, 20 Questions and Answers About Dry Fasting by Dr. Filonov, Sergey Filonov, F-I-L-O-N-O-V. And he's had some of the experience with...

11 plus 12, 12 day fasts. And I think it's, uh, Serbia or Montenegro, something like that. Yeah. Um, So there's a lot of research that has been done on this validating it just to help people kind of break some of these false beliefs and at least give themselves peace of mind when everybody around them is. scared and perhaps from a place of loving care, but trying to convince them not to do it. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean this is not something that you should just start tomorrow because you thought it was a good idea. This is a massive commitment physically, mentally, emotionally, logistically, spiritually. this is a this is a serious commitment and so don't do what i think a lot of people especially you know i'm sure listeners to your podcast and my podcast

They're like, dude, this sounds great. Like, cool. I'll just start now and then just not eat or drink for five days. Like, no, no, no, no. You have to plan way ahead. You have to exit the fast. You know, the way that you start to rehydrate and refeed is. critically important. There's a ton of, there's a ton of little details that you want to get right. And then you have to plan for because, you know, by day three and four, you have really low energy and you're not really thinking straight.

And so you're going to have to like be aware of that going in. You're kind of like, why am I doing this again? Yeah, right. Hopefully this is doing something cool. Hopefully I'm giving myself a gift and not just doing some wacky thing. But again, this is anti-mainstream. Nobody's going to profit from this protocol. Nobody's going to get rich doing a five-day dry fast. No special interests are going to benefit from this.

Again, that's part of what makes it so attractive to me is because I know my body knows what to do. It's the reason why I didn't vaccinate my kids. It's the reason why.

You know, I haven't gotten a flu shot since I was like, I guess, 21. You know, it's been 20 plus years since I've gotten... uh a flu shot yeah like we trust our bodies and and we and we tinker around and we have the time it's part of our industry it's what we do is is experiment with these n of one you know little experiments and And when you can trust in your body and trust in your intuition that it knows what to do, it's a super empowering.

It's a really awesome feeling to know that my body knows how to take care of itself. My body's making its own perfect water that's just right for me. My body knows to scrape.

literally scrape fat cells for water use that water and the stuff that it doesn't need it urinates out like the the the the complexity of what goes on at the cellular level, at the DNA level, at the digestion and kidney and liver and heart and, you know, hard tissues, like your teeth, like that it's, it's so, it's so mind bogglingly. big in scope and detail that it's tough to try to quantify until you actually go through it and you're like oh my gosh you know i

I lost a bunch of weight that I've kept off. I look younger. My hair grew back thicker. I shared this anecdote. I have a guy that's been on TRT for over a decade. and his nuts shriveled. And by day seven, two days after he started rehydrating after the five day dry fast, his balls were bigger and he didn't even notice his wife noticed. Like his testicles, having been shriveled from hormone therapies, plumped up again. And there's so many anecdotes. You know, the gal- Funny, you noticed.

Yeah. Thank you. Good for her. I'm blushing. She's intentive. Yeah. Right. Like, so like in the case of the gal who got her period after 11 months. I'm not sure the explanation there. I have some ideas. Perhaps there's a hormonal explanation. Perhaps that was an opportunity for purging toxins in that way through her uterus and her menstrual cycle. They have another detox pathway that men don't have. And maybe that was like, hey, I'm going to consult. You got some stuff.

going on in your uterus, in your reproductive organs, it's time to kind of pull that stuff in and get it out. It's almost miraculous. The modern man is devolving. and at a rapid pace. Men today have an average IQ that's eight points lower than they were just 20 years ago. Men today are 50% more likely to be depressed.

compared to just 20 years ago, are 300% more likely to be obese compared to just 60 years ago, have sperm counts that are 62% lower than they were just 50 years ago, and have testosterone levels that are about 50% lower than they were just 20 years ago. But the reality is that it doesn't have to be this way. Your manhood, your strength, your power, your energy, your focus, all of these things are within your control.

You just need to recognize that all over the world, there are people that are curing cancer. There are people that are overcoming heart disease. Diabetes is a choice if you have the right tools at your disposal.

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Now, where so many people, you ask them, what do you feel? I don't feel anything from anything, they say. There's like this resistance that's probably at the cellular level. It pertains to our hormones, certainly insulin resistance. There's testosterone resistance. And there's...

emotional. There's a resistance of feeling anything, being able to perceive the changes that are taking place in our body. And I believe these fasts reset that too. I mean, you see it in the literature where they're talking about resetting.

resistance towards certain medications where someone's a non-responder. But we were seeing people having emotional purges as the fast extended. I had one, you know, as I came to... came to the close i was just crying in in part because i was happy that it was over but you know there was something going on there at a deeper level where my body's capacity to feel was expanding

Is that something that you experienced at all? Have you seen that with other people going through this? Yeah, absolutely. After I started to rehydrate, I had a renewed appreciation for... not only my life, but also my family and my loud ass kids, you know, like, like during the fast, I was, I was edgy. I was tense, you know, like I was, you know, just, I was just getting through it and I didn't have the luxury of.

a large group you know to to to kind of commiserate with and to go through it with me um but afterward the you know the arguing and fighting at level volume 11 of my kids was like just you know just sort of shake your head and smile like man i got it so good you know my kids are happy and healthy and they're loud as and i'm such a lucky guy because of this you know my

My mind was more organized. You know, I had deeper intention and purpose that continues to this day. You know, that emotional element that you're talking about. just being more in touch with how you feel and what your sort of like uh triggers are you know within your day-to-day basis you know everything's put into perspective again

Like I can deal with a little bit of traffic. I can deal with, you know, people being annoying. I can handle and manage, you know, being irritated with stuff that I see on social media. or the news. And I now am more graceful in how I approach every moment of every day, because I know how hard it can be. You know, and this, that, that, that's, that's a, that's a big deal. Yeah. I, I cried, I cried a number of times for no good reason, just out of the blue. Yeah. I like cried twice.

You fucking win. You win. You fucking weenie. Obviously joking. Yeah. I had moments where I was overwhelmed. We went to the beach a couple of times. You know, Anthony, you did this in the snow, which is a little less optimal than being able to get outside barefoot and, you know, get into some running water. You know, I went to the beach a couple of times.

you know, sort of slowly waddled out, you know, down to the beach, you know, just taking it really easy. But I went out into the water in the Puget Sound, which is, you know, Pacific Ocean and just... sat there because cold water feels incredible and you know i'm surrounded by water my skin is absorbing that seawater uh exactly you can feel it oh yeah it's you're drinking it up like a plant right

You're a dry sponge going out into the water. You're pulling in through your skin all of that, those great minerals and seawater, you know, happens to be really nice and clean where I'm at. And I just sat there for, you know. 30 minutes and then water's 55, but didn't bug me. And I promised when you were on my podcast before to share some of the sort of spiritual experiences, sort of the big moments in consciousness.

I was sitting in the water. My family is on the beach playing around. There's a couple other people around and I'm just sitting there. I probably looked like bizarre and I'm just sort of looking down into the water. And then all of a sudden this. big flounder kind of swims up and swims right to me. And it was like, that doesn't really happen. Usually if somebody's there, the fish aren't going to swim up to you, right?

And I sort of looked at it and I was like, well, that's cool. Like that's never happened before. I wonder why, why that's happening now. And then I just sort of lost interest and I looked around a little bit and I started to get emotional about the fact of like, I'm connected to this, to this body of water. I'm connected to the animals around me, you know, the plant life around me, the people around me, the earth itself.

And then all of a sudden, another fish comes up and settles right next to it. And I'm like, who? You're right, Sean. You are. Yeah, you're right. He's looking up at me from underneath the water. I'm like, okay, this is kind of crazy. I keep looking. I'm just sort of spacing out. I'm kind of gently getting pushed by a little bit of tide. And then another, a third. even larger fish cruises up and just sort of settles right next to me.

And then I suddenly, you know, and then I feel like Snow White or Ariel from Disney movies. Or Anastasia from the Ringing Cedars books. Exactly. I'm like. I'm interconnected, I'm connected. And it was a really beautiful moment. Like I had this appreciation for my connectedness, my connection with the earth.

And it was a profound moment. You know, I kind of got overwhelmed and I was like, man, I'm kind of getting a little lightheaded out here. I better turn around and walk back. You know, I sort of slowly meander out, you know, my daughter. had grabbed, you know, my wife's phone and came up and like filmed me kind of walking out of the water. And I'm like, you know, kind of weepy a little bit and thin and kind of waddling out of the water. She's filming me.

And she stops and she's like, are you okay? And I was like, yeah, I'm okay. I'm just really happy. I'm really grateful. She's like, okay. Those moments, you can have those moments when you're in ecstatic dance or deep in prayer or meditation or on psychedelics. That's pretty – much more common i think for people to have those those consciousness experiences um but to be totally level-headed and just having not

you know, consumed any liquid or food for that was like day, it was like afternoon on day four was profound. And it's hard to describe, you know.

I'll tell another one because this this this one was even bigger. So part of the work that I do for myself and for my coaching clients is I connect with spirit guides. I've been training for. About 15 years with a predominant spiritual teacher to connect with angels, guides, ascended masters. And so it's a normal part of my daily practice.

I do it in meditation. I do it in my, you know, my sort of manifestation practice is just sitting in contemplation. Well, I had a really hard time meditating during the five day drive fast. Like I could not get into that theta state. I could not really get into that state. And I was asking for help and asking for support.

And, and again, questioning, like, why am I doing this again? Like, this is, this is frustrating. I can't even get into my meditation zone, which, you know, I've been meditating since I was 12 and I didn't, I couldn't get there. The morning of day five, you know, I'm going to break the fast that afternoon. I woke up at like three in the morning and was like, well, I think I'm up now. This sucks.

you know, all right, I'll just sit here. And so I just sat and meditated. And I think I meditated for like two hours, you know, terribly, no success, nothing, just not getting into state. And then all of a sudden it goes from What am I doing? What am I doing? To this uproar of activity in my awareness. And it was bursts of light. It was.

beings and entities kind of cruising in and cruising out the spirit guides that I work with most closely. There's five of them. I know them. I, you know, have a, have a collaboration with them. All of them were kind of zooming in and zooming out. Archangel Michael, you know, it's like I can just sense Michael kind of behind me and above me with his wings and his sword, you know. Saint Germain.

you know saint germain comes in from the left with a violet flame and just sort of like comes in and it's like and it was like it goes from zero to too much And I was like really overwhelmed. And I was thinking to myself, like, how long can I stay in this place? Like, I can't really focus on any of you or what I'm supposed to learn here in this moment because it's so loud. you know, one at a time, one at a time. And I kept saying like, slow down one at a time.

And it just built and built and built and got louder and brighter. And I started to like, kind of like not convulse, but just kind of like shake and twitch a little bit. which is common in meditation, but I was just like, woof, like just vibrating at such a high level. And then I was like, what am I supposed to know?

And then all of a sudden, this symphony of sound and light and sensation and vision and presence around me, everyone, it's just like, it's just laughing. It's like a joke. Just like. laughing and i was so pissed off because i was like what is so freaking funny like i am struggling here like i'm almost done with this thing what is the meaning of this

So I sat for – I sort of like shook it off and I walked around. I didn't go get a drink of water or anything to eat. Just kind of like whatever. Kind of like putzed around in the house and moved this thing and came back out and sat down. Well, later that day. We went to the store. My wife drove me to the store to stock up on the foods and hydration for breaking the fast. And we're in the car and...

I'm telling her about this experience that I had, you know, seven hours earlier. And she's like, that's a little different than what you're used to. Right. And I was like, yeah, I mean. It went from zero to too much in a millisecond. And she's like, well, what do you think it means? And right when she asked, what do you think it means? All of a sudden, it comes back in the car, driving back from the grocery store. It comes back. And it's like.

dudes like marching bands and explosions and lights and, you know, entities in the back seat and beings like coming from my heart center. And I was like, I closed my eyes and I sit back. I'm sure I'm probably, you know, I'm freaking my wife out. She's like, dude, what is going on with you? I've kind of leaned back. And I was like, what does it mean? And, and the, the, the sense that I got was that I didn't need to have.

a thesis, a nugget of wisdom, some profundity that would satisfy that experience. What it meant was I was having that experience and that experience alone was enough. And it was... It's okay to laugh. It's funny. This is ridiculous. You're a ridiculous person. This whole thing we're doing here with humanity, your existence, it's got some humor to it. You can laugh at it and just relax.

a little bit and so like that was new never had that happen before and now and that's and i can think about it you know i can go back to that that place like in a millisecond. It feels so fresh in my mind. Have you tried to drop in there during any meditations since? I have. Well, as part of my daily practice, I have a...

You know, I have a process of getting into state with collaboration with my guides and angels and masters. And the ones that I collaborate with most frequently are Archangel Michael.

Archangel Raphael, Saint Germain, and Cthulhu. It's the ones that I've known to help with possession and clearing the vessel from... parasitic entities that may want to influence us in a way that is not in our best interest right right yeah michael michael's a protector uh rafael's a healer uh saint germain is a um uh you know sort of a creator of civilization and um you know incarnated in this life you know as francis bacon and saint francis of assisi

Saint Germain is like this violet flame of creation. And then the five guides that I work with that I have. have since I was a kid that I didn't realize, didn't learn until like my late 20s, early 30s, that I was actually working with them in dream states and meditative states. You know, Bo, Yishem, Miriam, Manuel, and this. orb thing that i i still don't know the name of i've gone into that state again um but in a much more controlled way and in a shorter time frame

But I've let go of trying to understand what that was and just allow it to be and just keep moving forward. Like I've had little snippets of that sort of like. eruption of energy eruption of vibration or a presence that's with me but i i've i've sort of let go of of needing to have like an explanation or some like nugget of wisdom

but that was totally unique. That's wild. This is probably a good time for people that are interested in doing a guided fast with you and they realize it's a fool's errand to try to do this, especially when you get into the three and five day lengths. It's dumb to do it on your own. Yeah.

Where can they learn about that? Where can they learn about your coaching? Can you kind of share those locations? And we'll mention them again at the end, but I want to mention it now while we're here before we kind of continue. Well, you may be surprised to learn that dryfastingwithfriends.com was an available domain name.

Uh, so you can go to a dry fasting with friends.com. Um, it's, it's really, you know, from, from there again, we're still, we'll still, we're still early in this, but we're going to, uh, give everybody. you know, access to some free. content, some, you know, an ebook, you know, how to do a 24 hour drive fast, because there's a lot of data that shows like a protocol of 24 hours with walking is really good for fat loss. It just burns fat.

Um, so if you go to dry fasting with friends.com, there's a special offer there, depending on when this gets released, it may or may not be ready. But if you were like interested in this and you want to get on the list and learn more, you can just give me your email and we'll contact you. And then my, you know, my coaching is Sean McCormick.com. You know, I work with people all over the world and in four key areas, classic personal development, performance optimization and health optimization.

career development and spiritual development. So I work with kind of the same guys that you do, you know, high level people who are looking for an edge, or, you know, a lot of times in my case, looking for other things to add. to their successes in their career, greater depth, greater meaning, greater purpose.

And so, yeah, that's I'm easy to find. It's real Sean McCormick on Instagram. Like I'm super accessible. If people are like, oh, this guy's my kind of weird. Like, yeah, I want to connect with him. Awesome. And I mean, there's few things that. 200, a 200 point increase in testosterone without taking testosterone, without taking Tonkat Ali and Fidoja and all these other things. It just happened by cleaning out your vessel.

and giving your body the opportunity to regenerate. I think probably the question that's been on a lot of our listeners' minds is what about weight loss? And how much of that weight loss is fat loss? Right. So maybe you can speak on your experience, some of what we're seeing in the group, and then I'll share mine. But let's talk. Let's scratch that itch for the listeners, for the people. I was not expecting that testosterone boost.

I actually – I was a little nervous because I was a little nervous that it would go down. Yeah, I would have thought so too. Right? Like you were in survival mode for a week. You had to turn on a bunch of these processes like you were – I really had no idea and I had not seen any indication in any of the research that I wrote that was translated to English because I don't – speak Italian or Russian, I didn't see anything about hormones at all. And so I promised.

before I did it that I would get blood done before and after and read off all of the 17 biomarkers in a podcast episode that I did and released right after the episode. I was a little nervous that it would drop. not just for myself, but also because I was like, oh shit, this is bad for your hormones. I thought that that was a potential. So to see it bump up, I think it was 180 or something.

Just in those five days was really shocking to me. But I was confident that I would retain muscle mass because the research does, again, suggest that your body… by going into that deep ketosis, by turning on the mechanisms of autophagy, that it would scrape fat only. And it would turn that, it would liquefy that fat so that you can just pee it out. So that's what the research suggests.

We had some people do some in-body scans before and after from our fasting group, and I don't remember specifically what their results were. But when you look at the before and after picture that I took in my… in my undies you can see that all of the muscle that i had i've been working on building in my life stuck around but i was way leaner like love handles gone belly fat gone you know my around my neck you know in in my in my face the fat the fat was gone which is different from a water fast

So in a water fast, Filinov found that that actually does activate muscle loss. Your body actually, because of that... activation of your digestion process that that still pulls so you do burn fat in a water fast but you also lose muscle but in a dry fast you don't and that's echoed in the phoenix protocol uh and some of the other researchers that have looked at this so what what what i was really pleased to see was not only was did i not lose any muscle not only

Did I get an increase in testosterone? But in addition, I was more limber. I do jujitsu four or five days a week. I'm chasing a purple belt. I was more flexible. My spine was more flexible. My joints were more flexible when I was training, which kind of makes sense. The synovial fluid in the pockets of your joints. And your tendons like make sense. They just got an upgrade. So the loss of weight. So I lost 18 pounds, 18 and a half pounds in the five days.

And the max that you can lose in water weight is 10 pounds. So... you're going to put back on 10 pounds as you begin to rehydrate and refuel and start to eat again. But it tops off at 10. So I lost what I estimate to be accurately. eight pounds of of body fat that came from again love handles you know stomach face and now since i've gone back to my sort of typical nutrition

My frame has changed. Like I have more of an hourglass sort of physique that I didn't get when I did 75 hard, you know, that I didn't get when I was doing water fastening. Yeah, that's crazy.

i echoed a similar experience i started our five-day dry fast at at 218.4 and i ended 21.5 pounds down at 196.9. And since so we finished on it was wet. Well, I went a little bit longer. And so finished on Wednesday, started rehydrating and refueling on Wednesday. It's now what Wednesday? So it's been a week. Uh huh. And I've been I haven't been above 206. 206 and change. So going from 218 to 206 and change and pretty stabilized.

Right now. And frankly, a few days on December 28th. So we started on January 2nd. On December 28th, I was 222.8. So I was even higher, you know, so from in a short period of. days I shedded well over 20 pounds and have kept off a lot of that. What about your physique? How did your physique shift? You haven't sent me any undie pics, so I don't really know how your body changed.

I took some undy picks and then I wasn't posting them. I just shared one with a group that was like one flex and pick. There's a part of me now that there's so many dudes lifting up their shirts on the internet. it's like nauseating. I'm like, if I see one more dude showing me his six pack, I'm going to flick him in the nuts. You know what I mean? Trying to sell me something. Yeah. Right. So it's like, I almost don't want to participate too much in that culture besides.

still do here and there when it's relevant and because people do want to see it you know what i mean but i'm like there's enough shirtless pics of me floating around so i took i took one and kind of shared it but noticeably leaner did not lose any muscle And frankly, I was I felt like I was getting some softness in my physique that I think it was Chris that mentioned he was like, I felt like last night my love handles just.

in got incinerated and disappeared he's like i felt him getting smaller and they're like gone yeah he's like i've had these love handles for years and then all of a sudden they're gone and you look at his face and The people that were making fun of him for doing this and calling him crazy and trying to dissuade him from doing it are now asking him about it.

Because they're seeing that you look noticeably healthier and more vibrant. And the changes in your body are the changes I want in my body. Yeah. Right? It's just, it's, in my opinion.

a superior tool to all forms of fasting. Was 220 heavy for you? Yeah. When I'm shredded and at my best, I'm in the 198. to 205 206 when i'm in my best shape so i was a little bit soft and and frankly i mean i stopped drinking completely on june 16th of last year that's right 20 i was i had kind of turned into one of those memes with the 2020 stuff you know where it's like have you seen the memes where it's like the spiritual starter pack and it's like

crystals and this and that. And then it's like the spirituality advanced pack and it's, you know, chain smoking and a cup of coffee. Yeah. I'd kind of had a little bit of that going on where I was taking in all of this. a truth about our reality and some of these energies that are involved. And I had compensated with a little bit more alcohol than was in my best interest.

And I had to cut it in June. But part of allowing that in for a period of time was I'd gotten some softness and I needed to reestablish a hard line with.

the level of discipline and will that is required in a dry fast, in doing a dry fast, especially one of five days. Right. It was like I had to first make the flex with alcohol. And stop that and really cut off that tentacle that was draining my energy. And then, you know, thank you for encouraging me to do this. It had been kind of knocking, but there was that voice like.

I knew I could do 24 hours by myself. I knew I could do a little bit longer than that by myself, but I also knew I couldn't do five days by myself. Yeah. And when you were like, do it with us, I'm like, there's truth to the phrase. When you pay, you pay attention.

yes when you pay you want to get your money's worth right and i'm like all right i've got this community i've got people i trust i've got other men that have gone through this already and i'm invested i know it's important i'm investing in the process to make sure i don't fucking quit yeah And I needed it. It was a time in my life where I needed it. So thank you. Yeah. Well, you answered the call. Yeah. I guess it took the pictures of my gallstones for you to be like, what?

Holy shit. I'm in, you know, when we were recording for my for my podcast. But yeah, that that's it matters so much. You know, if if you take it lightly and it doesn't and there's no. investment of your money and there's no investment of your time and how you organize your that those five days and really it's eight or nine because it takes a second for your body to recuperate

If you're just sort of going in willy nilly, you're bound to fail. You're bound to back out early. You're bound to lose your resolve. But when you know that you're with a group of people who have also committed.

time, money, and planning to this, you take it very seriously. And when we talk about an investment in our health, yes, you and I both love, you know, biohacking devices we both shoot lasers up our nose and have cold plunges and stuff like that but an investment of this level to get the most out of it and focus on this opportunity to do something that very few people have done.

There's not that many people in the entire world that have gone five days without food and water. You realize that you're in a unique community and you want to get the most out of it. And luckily, you know, my partner in this, the guy who got me into dry fasting, Theo Lucier, who is an absolute savant encyclopedia of information. a great marketer he is just an insane memory for these forgotten health techniques like yeah he's a great great guy too yeah super cool super cool guy

really holds space as well. And he, again, like I think he remembers everything he reads, unlike me. For he and I to be able to provide that support and understanding when somebody on day three is like, hey. I've got a pain in my lower back. What's happening? Or I've- Should I brush my teeth? I've got white film on my gums. What the hell is going on here? My breath is absolutely atrocious. What should I do to be able to have an answer to that right away?

with other people who are also curious about that stuff it it matters you know the the the The profound benefit of going without, right? Instead of adding more, but going without and having a community of people who are also doing it with you, rooting you on, sharing with your victories. talking about insecurities or challenges and to hear some of the transformations that are happening in real time is...

It's profound, dude. It's profound. You're forever changed. Your body knows that you can make it through this. This is kind of fun, like not to go back into the woo too much, but. You wake up a bunch of latent abilities that you have during this process. I want to share real quickly.

The three main reasons that so many people have horrible digestion and the subsequent downstream health consequences of a dysregulated digestive system. First. All of us have been drinking and showering in water that's loaded with chlorine and fluoride and bromide and a whole bunch of other chemicals that kill the... healthy bacteria and other microorganisms in our gut. Number two, imagine you had to drink a cup of pesticide and herbicide, you know?

glyphosate it's now in everything and it's been in everything since the 1990s but it goes one step further now you look at all of the technology that we have integrated into our lives. Now let's go back in time and imagine you're on the African savanna and all of a sudden a lion comes out of the brush.

What's your body going to do? It's going to spike the stress hormone cortisol. Your adrenals in communication with your brain are going to see this lion. They're going to recognize that you are now in danger. Now, the problem is...

We're not on the African savanna and a lion didn't just come out of the brush, but we're doing that same thing to ourselves all the time. And it's part of the reason that so many guys can only eat one meal a day and they're having, you know, they're switching to carnivore. And if they have any. eat carbs, their digestion and their health is a wreck and their whole body gets inflamed.

I can tell you also from experience that that doesn't go to a good place. And until we even have an idea of what is contributing to this situation, we can't fix it. And if you want help, that's what I do. I help people fix their gut and then get their body back.

functioning optimally. So if you want help with this stuff, you can go to biohackercoaching.com, fill out the short form, grab a time to talk with myself or someone from our team. That's biohackercoaching.com. Appreciate you guys. If you found this helpful or you know someone who's been struggling with digestive issues, please.

Send it to them. And now back to the show. I've noticed things coming back memory-wise that I had forgotten. Like what? I mean, little things. I was noticing that I was remembering the guy, Pablo, who used to get my packages for me in the early 2000s when I lived in downtown Chicago and how he ran the office for Slater Realty and all of these things.

And it was like all their names were coming up and the different brothers that, you know, whose father ran Slater Realty and like all this stuff was coming in. And I'm like, wow, I hadn't thought about that. I think I'd like forgotten it. You know, and it was it was just interesting feeling this awakening. I noticed that if you look at a picture of me from from Thanksgiving.

it's a it's a funny photobomb picture where we're actually taking a picture myself and my cousins and my uncle's like just trying to walk behind us to get back to his seat and He looks at the camera like as he's sneaking by and we're taking the picture and it's a hilarious photobomb, you know, moment. But you look at the picture and my eye is a little bit droopy.

And I've had that for a real long time. And I've noticed that's gotten a lot better. And a lot of times is gone. All of a sudden, like both my, like, I don't have this lazy eye drooping thing going on. Wow. The inflammation that I'd had in various parts of my body, including like I went crazy. I decided. years ago that i wanted to be able to do 30 plus pull-ups so i got obsessed and i was doing so many sets of pull-ups and reps of pull-ups every single day and i developed like tennis elbow and

That started aching days three through six. I'm saying it continued after the fast, but like now pain everywhere in my body with the exception of my hip, which is like a physical. injury that we're figuring out you know i think i like tore a ligament or something but everywhere else is like gone you know so there's applications here for

There's certainly brain regeneration going on, nervous system regeneration. I think for people that are dealing with inflammation and autoimmune issues, there's tremendous applications. It really might be.

one of the closest things to a true panacea. And if you think about what we know about our creator, he wouldn't. create something that only a very, very tiny fraction of people could access or where you got to take blood from some young person and put it into your body like a psychotic vampire. He'd be like, no, just stop eating and separate yourself from some of these earthly desires and make the fucking sacrifice and I will give you the gifts you are seeking.

In my opinion. Absolutely. I'm so glad that you said that. I'm so glad that you said that because I believe it to be true. I believe it to be true. Your body knows what to do. And so does your dog too.

Your dog knows that when it's sick, it's not going to eat. It's not going to drink. It's just going to go hide somewhere until it can heal. In fact, that's part of the origin story for Dr. Filanov. His dog, this is like one of the – like the predominant researcher. He's still alive into dry fasting. He's done a bunch of studies and written books and papers and –

collaborated with Italian universities from his universities in Russia. His dog got hit by a drunk motorcyclist and walked out to the barn. And he didn't see his dog, I think it was six days. And he thought every time he went and checked, he didn't want to bother it, disturb it, just kind of let it be. You know, the dog was mangled, you know, wounds and crippled and was hobbling like.

he's like okay this dog's just gonna go off and die well it came back six days later and was like prancing around all healed up like all better like there there is an there is a divine intelligence in all of us that we are getting in the way of And it does take discipline. It does take planning. It does take some faith. And you are absolutely rewarded. You know, I think it's worth mentioning, you know, as far as that droopy eye.

I've had, you know, I know some people who have had a twitch, like an eye twitch that went away. You know, a visible scar from C-section. going from if it's a level 8 out of a 10 as far as scar and scar tissues go, went down to like a 2. Because that scar tissue, which doesn't have circulation, doesn't get nutrients. It's just bound up and tight. It blocks the energetic and electrical flow.

the flow of electricity and magnetism throughout our body right right that that got scraped changed got its color back became more pliable because it was used your body used that for energy. It cleans up dysfunctional tissues and toxins and does it in a way that doesn't require chemicals or

incisions, it does it in a way because guess what? Your body knows what to do. It knows how to do it. Guys, if you're getting value from this episode, please share it. Share it with people who are open. that like this type of information that that are into taking control of their health, that are that are part of the people that are going to be building the new earth and are in the process of doing so. We're shadow banned on every possible platform. And part of the reason is because we're.

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The revolution won't be televised. It's going to be shared among people who are ready for that information. Right. And over the course of the last four and a half years, you know. People are asking the right questions now. They're awake. They're more aware of... of special interests like never before. And so ideas like this, like, maybe this makes sense. You know, I don't want to make an outrageous claim, but I'm about to. So disclaimer. It's entertainment.

It's entertainment. We're two idiots having fun. I don't actually mean that. I don't want to speak that into existence. And I don't believe it. We're entertaining people. I believe. that dry fasting in conjunction with specific protocols can and will detox spike proteins. I believe that we don't really have, I mean, we've got ivermectin and fembendazole that we can use.

They also have other wide applications for cancer. And some of that information is coming out. Antiparasitics with a parallel benefit towards cancerous situations. Right. This might do it. Because the body is like, well, we don't need this. This is something that we can get rid of. And they're – to date is not a better way to detox intracellularly, like inside of your cells are getting cleaned up. This does it. And so what better way to...

At least experiment. Like if you got injected and you regret it and you're like, I don't know what to do, you ought to consider this. For sure.

I think – and she'll eventually listen to this. But one of the gals in our group that just completed it, she went seven days. Savage. Yeah. For real. And her last name is Savage. Is Savage. I think that she's still detoxing from the shots. I think that even as we speak today, and we're going to jump on a call in 30 minutes with that group.

I think that she's detoxing from the shots and some of the dysfunctions that she's experiencing in her body that she doesn't have an answer for. She switched her diet. She went to a carnivore. I think that she's going through a pretty heavy-duty detox from those spike proteins. And the graphene oxide. I mean – and when you look at the urine that comes out and you're like, why are there red crystals in my pee? Like what is that? Why is there – why is there gray?

silt in my urine after this five-day process. Yeah, mine looked like silt from the bottom of a riverbed that a catfish would hide in. Was yours the one as I was looking through pictures? Are you wearing a glove while you're holding it or is that somebody else's? No, that was OJ. OJ. O.J. Simpson. The bloody glove. If the glove does not fit, you must acquit. You must acquit. I was looking at pictures of people's urine that shared it in the group.

I mean, I could put it up to the camera. Do you think? I mean, if. Sure, throw it up. I mean, like, what is that? Like, what? What? What is that? Why is that? How would you even describe that? It looks like, I don't even know. It looks like a lava lamp. Yeah. It looks like goo that you would find in an old lava lamp, an abandoned lava lamp. There's another one.

Someone sent one where they're wearing, I don't even know why they're wearing a glove. I mean, people were sweating out stuff that was black. Like there was black things on bedsheets. We've seen that. We do a lot of detail. Oh my gosh. Yeah. red crystals. I mean, it's certainly not things that are supposed to be in urine or you would presume the body. Right. Crystalline structures. And-

You know, without use, that's nuts. That is crazy. We know there's a concerted effort to get magnetic, metallic objects into the human body. It's part of this agenda to merge man with machine. that is done without concern to its impact on longevity. In fact, those initiating it probably would prefer us to spend less time on this planet and just be productive and then die.

when we're when we're no longer productive and we're seeing with stuff like these dry fasts you're releasing black compounds silt we see it with when people use the the whole cat machine that's like an ozone sauna or get out the towel. The towel will be like black. There's black stuff coming out of their body. Right. And maybe some of it's mold, but there's more going on there. And it seems like the people that have.

bypassed their detox pathways and injected themselves with things tend to have the most to gain from some of these advanced detoxification protocols. Right.

And probably people that have used contraceptives. I think there were some people in the group. I don't want to name any names just in case someone gives a shit. They probably don't. And they are probably down to help more people. But there was someone in the group that had mentioned feeling pain in a part of her body where she used to have contraceptives inserted. And when you think about the fact that you don't really notice.

that that's what's going on in your body for me for five years, 10 years, maybe longer. You don't notice that that's kind of out of function. You know, this little part in your body, this injury, you know, this injectable. I'm just getting older. Right, right. I'm tired. I'm old and I'm tired and I didn't put two and two together until you go through a process like this where you lower the inputs.

You go through this transformational healing process and then it's like, oh, that's right. Like that's the concussions that Theo got as a collegiate taekwondo athlete. You know, he had headaches. He had he had pains in the back of his head where he got question mark kicked in in Taekwondo. And and and several days later, like.

He felt more clear of mind, you know, a football injury. Like I have a foot injury that I, you know, never really treated properly that really hurt in the last, you know, day four, day five that. And afterward, I had more flexibility. I think the scar tissue and the calcium deposits around that injury on that bone and the ball of my right foot, it's more flexible and have less pain there. It's less aggravating than it was.

Your body and your sort of interoception, which is just like the awareness of what's going on in your body. gets amplified. And what happens then is that you make better decisions about what you eat and what you think and your lifestyle and the relationships in your life that you maybe aren't serving you anymore. You're more discerning. Discernment and amplification is an excellent byproduct of this process because you're going to be less likely to have a Snickers bar.

in a moment of weakness or go for that ice cream after dinner, you know, because you're like, I don't know if I need that. I don't know if I want that. You know, I'm going to make a different choice because you're. All of your systems get upgraded. Including willpower. For sure willpower. If you can do this, which you can. If you can go through this and you can abstain in this way.

You can endure much harder challenges. I mean, you can have trust in yourself, a new level of self-awareness, intentionality. Focus, how you spend your time, what you put in your mouth. Even self-talk gets a tune-up to a certain extent because you don't need to beat yourself up.

You've been through something extremely challenging. The guy that I did my original drive fast with is a ranger. 14 deployments to Afghanistan, then a police officer. And he's like, dude, this is way harder than anything I've ever done before. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. Hands down. I can go through buds. I can go jumping out of airplanes. That's cool. I can do that. I can handle that. But this was –

This was extremely challenging. And he even, you know, even shared with me, like he thought about quitting four or five times, you know, just about once a day. He's like, I could probably just have this sip of water and nobody would know. But he knew. that I was over here suffering at my house with him at the same time. We started at the same day on the same time, and I wasn't going to budge. And if you're going to go, you're going to keep going? Okay, I'll keep going. Fuck.

There's just a power. There's a power to that. And now, you know, I'm going to start implementing, and I think that you said that you might too, you know, the protocol for fat loss, which is two 24-hour. dry fasts a week combined with six miles of walking. So sleeping is fasting. So if you do an early dinner on a Sunday, And you don't eat or drink all day on Monday and you're able to get out and walk six miles, which hopefully you can.

And then you have some liquids followed by potentially like a normal dinner. I would suggest something light like soup. There are studies that show that is really effective for fat loss. not Ozempic, not crash diets, just going without and making this a regular part. I think I'm going to start doing that probably later this month. And then I intend to do at least one drive fast a year.

Yeah, me too. You too, huh? Yeah, I'm going to do it. I mean, I'd like to do it with you guys to kick off the year, just like this was. You feel like you already did something great for yourself and made huge strides. where a lot of the other things in the health department are gravy. And then, yeah, I'll keep up with one to eight 24-hour fasts per month.

just to kind of for maintenance, but do the heavy lifting that one time. I don't want to do it twice a year, but I can do it. I do know it's in my best interest to do it once a year and kick off the year like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's the thing. It's definitely the thing. Here's the question a lot of people are asking. How many people in the group died? Nobody died. Nobody died. Nobody? Not a single woman. No, and we had people who have cancer. We have people who have –

You know, some immune, autoimmune issues. We have people who have, you know, trauma. We have guys in their 70s. 80. 80. Yeah, an 80-year-old. Yeah. And a 74-year-old. We should tell that story really quick. So he said that he's been hunched over. for 40 years so around the age of 40 he developed a hunch so he and he said that he's been looking at people's shoes instead of their faces since around the age of 40.

And I think it was day three or four. He was walking down the stairs and then all of a sudden his posture corrected. His shoulders came back. His chin came back and his posture like. out of nowhere, totally unintentionally, just sort of corrected itself, walking down the stairs and hearing him explain how that is going to change his life. He's like, I can look people in the face now.

You have no idea how big a deal this is for me now. And he's a pretty subtle guy, so he wasn't hyping it too much. But he's like, my posture returned. Now, who knows why? Who knows why? Who knows? Who knows if that lasts a week, a month, a year, the rest of his life? I don't know. But the fact that that happened is another really incredible anecdote.

of many just from you know just from this group from this one week this is another fun thing my the last time i did blood work let's call it six months ago my biological age came back around 40. I'm 43 now. I just turned 43 in December and I did blood work two days after finishing.

and it had dropped to 33.3. That's incredible. So it's an important time. And I say this with nothing but love. Maybe it's better to communicate this through a conversation I had with one of my buddies, Nick, who runs High Vibe.

just the best they got the best cleanse program and organic cold press juices in in the world it's high vibe in chicago they're high vibe shy on instagram We were talking about how many people try to dissuade you when you engage in an endeavor like this, when you decide you're going to go on a quest like this.

and the naysayers and the people telling you you're dumb and people that people that are strong in all these other areas suddenly become like like scared and he said that he's like that's exactly what it is man don't listen to him they're scared yeah he's like so many people allow their fear to control them and when they see it not controlling you they try to project

And I'm saying this to the listeners. If you're dealing with a health issue or you're just looking for that next level, we're not telling you you should do this. Only you know if the call is being made. and felt in your heart. Excuse me. But if it is, really go within and be sure that whatever decision you make, because you are in control of your health, is coming from a place of love.

and a place of what you are wanting, not a place of fear. Yes, 100%. That's not your stuff. That's not your fear. That's not your responsibility to be frightened, too. That's their... That's their fear. There's no – we instinctively receive that from people. even the people closest to us, because that's maybe how they want to love you is through concern, but it's their fear. It's not, it doesn't, you don't have to own that. You don't have to.

Listen to that. And again, yeah, this is not for everybody. This is not for everybody. The same way carnivore isn't for everybody or ayahuasca isn't for everybody, but this is for a lot of people. And the diversity of the group that we had in age, in nutrition, in health shows that just in five days. really incredible health gains can be achieved. And it's just the beginning because how you decide to live your life after you've gone through this process.

is the really exciting part because you are forever changed from the inside and from the outside. I mean, who doesn't want an extra, you know, 20 years of health span in their life? from, you know, having one hard week a year. To kind of, I think this is an important topic to touch on. And I know I don't want to keep you here all afternoon. Your family's probably waiting and your kids are wondering what happened to dad.

What are the primary risks associated with dry fasting, particularly concerning dehydration, kidney function? What do people need to be aware of? Yeah, I think that we could probably do a better job of covering contraindications. Your blood gets thicker during this. during this process so if you have you know deep vein thrombosis varicose veins you may want to think about it a little bit if you have

If you have serious organ dysfunction, this may not be the thing for you. Even though it's going to help it, you may not. You may not want to jump into this. You're going to want to read everything that you possibly can before you think about this. So you're going to look at Filinoff. You're going to read. uh the phoenix protocol you're gonna you know eventually our the website is gonna have a bunch of resources for people um

You know, if you're on a bunch of medications, if you're on five, six medications just to keep things together, you can't take those during this five days. Like you can't ingest. anything, including your statins, including whatever sort of litany of different pharmaceuticals you're on. So, however, if you are interested... in this and you have some of these contraindications, plan way, way ahead and see if you can improve your lifestyle, your nutrition, your...

you know, your exercise so that you can enable the opportunity down the road. Because if you can get some things together and make some health improvements in the next year or two or three. and then do a drive fast, you're going to benefit tremendously and it's going to set a course for a new wave of health for you. And that's one thing that I think is important to say is sort of the contraindications. And again, it's in the literature. You can go find it for yourself.

this is not something that you can take lightly you know you're gonna have to organize your your life especially on days three four five and six to to accommodate for low energy you know decreased focus. You're going to have to make a plan for that. It sounded like just about everybody that participated. What did you say?

Clear your schedule. Clear your schedule. Yeah. Take a couple of days off work. Yeah. It's absolutely necessary. And if you're looking for permission to do this from Big Daddy Farmia, you're not going to get it. Right. like the Cleveland Clinic isn't going to tell you to go experiment with this or to try it. But it is important to mention the contraindications that you've started with. And I'll just elaborate a little bit. Certain individuals are at heightened risk.

and should avoid dry fasting or may want to do. a deeper dive on the research, pregnant or breastfeeding women. It can deprive both the mother and child of essential nutrients and hydration. Individuals with chronic health conditions like diabetes, kidney disease, liver disease. or heart conditions may experience exacerbated symptoms or severe complications due to a lack of food and water intake. You mentioned people that are on a lot of medications that it's very common when people are taking.

a number of pharmaceuticals and then they start doing something like this, they could experience an adverse event and they want to blame the let's say in this instance, the fasting experience when it was just the straw that broke the camel's back because you'd already loaded the camel up with a whole bunch of pharmaceuticals. People with a history of eating disorders, that may or may not be.

be advised, elderly individuals. But like we said, we had the guy in his 80s, another guy that was 74, and then children and adolescents. But with anything please do your own research. This is not an exhaustive and all-encompassing list. I wanted to touch on that and not leave that out of the episode to make sure that we were sharing both sides of the coin.

Yeah. Thank you for doing that. Yeah, I really appreciate that. And again, we can point you in the right direction, but you've got to do your own reading, your own research. Ask yourself if this is the right thing. Maybe not now, maybe later. Yeah, it's a serious undertaking. requires your full attention and commitment and so you know don't do not do this period do not do this uh willy-nilly you know this this takes this takes

This takes a certain type of individual who is really committed to some major changes in their life. And we're there for you if you're up for it. Yeah. And I think rather than getting into, I mean, there's so much nuance with preparation and how to get your body ready for the dry fast and breaking the fast. There's so many small ways that you can screw it up.

i thought i was going to be chewing a lot of gum you guys told me no gum right there's it's important that's just reason you know 1057 to do this dry fast with friends and have the guidance of people that have gone before you that can help you through the trials and tribulations that are inevitable.

Unless there's anything on the preparation or breaking the fast side that you think we need to include, I would just encourage people to get involved with you guys and go to dryfastingwithfriends.com. and get in on the next one or whenever they feel called um or work with you at sean mccormick.com kind of the the last land the plane question is what

What key advice would you offer to our listeners who are considering dry fasting as a part of their health regimen? You have to read. You have to do your own research. Yeah, first and foremost. In addition to tapping into your intuition to ask yourself, is this the thing? Am I ready for this? It's also really important to be informed, to read.

The books that August Dunning and Dr. Philanoff have written, understand what you're doing, understand what it takes, and really arm yourself with as much information as possible. Um, and also if you go one day or two days or three days, that's also great. That's okay too. You know, you're going to get a lot of benefits from even a 24 hour dry fast. And so don't feel like you've got to eat the elephant in one bite. Be super intentional with this. And when you dive into the literature.

And when you read some of the information on the website, you're going to get kind of an idea of whether or not this is the right thing for you at the right time. And trust that gut instinct. Don't rush it. Don't go willy-nilly. Be smart. And, you know, both Theo and I are very, very accessible. And, you know, he's even more knowledgeable than I am. You know, he's done a five and a seven.

And again, like he just he knows so much. He's harder to reach on the Internet. You know, he's kind of a more discreet guy than myself. But we will. Do our best to answer any questions that you have. I'm easy to get a hold of, you know, at those places that Anthony just laid out for you. But we'd love to have you if you're ready. And this is something that you would like to consider or you you think, well, maybe it's time, you know, it's still earlier in the year.

Maybe it's time to hire a coach, a one-on-one coach that can help you move into the next chapter of your life and become the person that you were meant to be.

I'm right here. I'd love to connect. And you and I have to jump on to the last call in two minutes, my man. Absolutely. So let's wrap this thing up, guys. Health is wealth. And you're only going to get so far by outsourcing this part of your life. So take agency, do your research. If you've felt that there is a call here being made for you to answer, then answer that call. You've got the different resources. Sean McCormick, thank you so much for coming on.

brother i've really enjoyed this conversation this was great anthony thanks ben guys if you've enjoyed this share this episode please sean and i gotta run we're jumping on a call that's why my alarm went off much love thank you for listening