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Without further ado, my homie Lenny Lashley is no stranger to the show. He's been on a couple times and he's on again because he keeps putting fucking records out. So we got to keep putting what's fucking ass on him. Well, I appreciate it. Actually, you were the you were the extent of the PR campaign. Anyway, so good to keep it in the family anyway. You know, what was the radio show you did you see radio actually was a kid that DJ Rock.
And he's a real DJ Rock. He's a actually only a senior in high school or whatever and just asked for Instagram. But he asked so long ago, I don't even think the record was ready. It was it wasn't intentional. The only other thing I think is J Stone who's a long time supporter right for that dying dying scene, scene web scene or whatever. But this time it's been pretty pretty grassroots or whatever by design, I think.
Yeah, well, that's one of the things I wanted to talk to you about was with the new record tell everyone a little bit about it. But your whole approach this one was a little more like you say grassroots DIY.
Yeah, it's unconventional, I think. And I don't I something it's I haven't even really figured out what the motivation is. I'm pretty sour old bastard anyway in the industry being what it is has has solid me a little bit on stuff, but I don't want to come from a sour grapes kind of methodology with it either it just it is what it is I accepted or whatever and I'm not going to think that I'm less than because there isn't some some success driven by people that are connected or whatever.
And I just wanted to separate myself from that a little bit being with with with the label before labels tend to tell artists what is cool sounding or what is good. I mean, how many how many people throughout history in music have had the same real basic gripe or whatever, you know, countless people.
You know, and I think the like I'm a Frank Zappa guy now, which he was a big advocate of you know fat old record execs it knew nothing about music to just said let's give it a chance or whatever and see if it throws beginning it to all see if it sticks they stayed out of the the nuts and bolts so to speak you know. So the but like even with like your distribution like of just like you want this record I give it to you.
So like you know what I mean like everything is pretty different you know what I mean it's not like you know what I mean so like what was you know I know the impetus to kind of do it yourself was you know.
You said you know just the industry can be souring but you didn't want to sour the music or sour your attitudes are you doing yourself rather than dealing with something that might you know put a little bit of a like what like a stank on things you know I don't know to be honest with you I don't I remember years ago kind of here and I don't know that I fully advocate the belief or whatever but I remember hearing from somebody was a painter or something at one point.
Maybe it was a rock and roll guy whatever who probably had already made a ton of money in a long the line was something to the to the effect of you know when you when money is a primary source of something creating something art wise or whatever it fundamentally changes what it is or whatever somehow because you put an expectation on it or or or how people are going to perceive it or whatever and that that really is the crux of the music.
I just wanted to do something that was creative and and kind of special for the people involved and hopefully for the people listening and and I'm not going to get rich making music you know what I mean I've kind of I realize that now at 60 years old it's not a it's not a dream that all of a sudden I'm going to hit the lottery and is a record going to chart me and I'm going to be opening for fucking tell us with to whatever it's not going to fucking happen so well yeah.
Yeah Taylor. Hey Taylor if you listen and I'll use my sexy voice. I don't I don't think there's many swiftees listening to this. Any any you any fucking swiftees at all. I better know. But no yeah you do have a better chance again rich than opening for Taylor Swift. I would think. I mean. Hey. Anything you want to. Yeah. Anything can happen. But yeah so so like so.
Not just the delivery of the record and the means of you doing it doing it on yourself and doing it taking on more of the record label aspect of it yourself and the distribution of it yourself.
What is what was kind of like the crux of the motivator or like you know what's not the theme but you know what was the what's the record dude you know what I mean well I mean like most of the stuff that I write it's it's it's it's it's driven through through my own emotion whatever this is I have some stuff that's kind of written the second person or whatever.
Even those are a guys of what my real feelings of feel you know I look back and in hindsight you know 10 15 years ago and realize I was writing songs about myself for whatever and I didn't I didn't realize at the time whatever. So you know it's really about. So I hate the unseen was was was out of my graphical. It was a real story. I know I know I know I know I know I know this but that was I was a little probably more.
More knee jerk reaction area at the time or whatever you know I'm really to be honest a lot of my songs a lot of stuff throughout my life have been fueled through resentment or whatever and and not necessarily found you know could be unfounded resentment didn't take much that some continues on my sub today song was about some kind of to me so my sub or really happened.
I mean yeah well I mean I think that was how we all came up anyway like if you grew up in Massachusetts in like the 70s or 80s or 90s and you weren't just a resentful prick like you didn't really grow up in Massachusetts yeah I mean it's definitely part of the culture and I it's something that that now through through some age and some you know hopefully attaining a little bit more wisdom or whatever I kind of look don't try and jump in like that unless need be.
Unless it's something I need to do you know but. So that was it with the record is it's it's it's a stylistically it's kind of all over the charts like a lot of stuff that I've done it got some some great players we recorded it as old school as it could possibly be everything was track live and and
kind of chased that that methodology and really something that not a lot of people do anymore you get lightning in a bottle that way or you crash on the side of the road real quick to whatever but with these guys and the level of skill that they had that the brought to the table we really captured some stuff that was.
Probably couldn't couldn't gone back and done it if you wanted to with some at some point you know yeah and so why don't you talk a little bit about the making of the record who's on it who you collaborating with I know you had a bunch of different people in and out yeah well peep from the soul's first off who's produced everything and I've done really in his is you know just as a friend and a and a.
Guy that's a great musician in a in a in a great band or whatever he's he's also a great producer because he kind of does things in in that Rick Rubin at school where he's just they're supporting or whatever you know I mean he's he's he had some some definite ideas and some things that helped or whatever but he's there
to kind of be like a security blanket or whatever and just kind of okay well we can we can do this a little bit better or get it together a little bit more or not really harsh and trying to change much you know no just trying to get like the best take or best performance I mean after Rubin says his only job Rick Rubin says my only job is to make an out of his feel as comfortable as I can so that they can feel vulnerable enough to do the best that they can best so Pete really does do that a lot we recorded a call for you to do that.
We recorded a crew division in in Cambridge on the island in line now they moved from Davis where they used to be to phenomenal studio you know while beyond my economical means or whatever but that being said it was also a real it was worth it there was a good element good sight lines and everybody could set up in a studio like we wouldn't have been able to do under in a in a lesser place probably well yeah well I was going to say that's going to be more important looking for
for a few and looking at everybody if you do everything live. Side lines is important you know and then there was a little bit of I obviously like me in a room with some glass separating in the drums in a room with some glass and then the the bass player John Sheeran and the keyboard play the organ guy Tom West who does some stuff with like Peter Wolf and and it's just a phenomenal phenomenal all these guys are just the three of them
and understand they all sat in a room the three of those guys did and vibed in them me and the drummer Sam were in separate rooms and this ran takes you know so I think I mean I'm really really proud of being able to do it like that or whatever yeah it's it's you always put yourself in your records but I feel like with this one you put more yourself in this record because like you you a handling the record from from from writing to put it out you're involved in all aspects of it.
It's a free it was in and yeah in finance or whatever so yeah the executive producer the right performer so that you know but the freeing part of that was you know like even didn't really kind of get the idea of how I was going to pay for all of all of a studio time at one and then the stars aligned and magically I was able to do it through you know some some benefactors or just everything kind of
lined up right and and I feel like that was kind of that was the catalyst to whatever being able to let go of stuff and just be free and not worry about hey what what's somebody going to think about it whatever let's just have fun and do what we do you know is your only fan still up.
No but but Taylor if you're listening I'm willing to put it back up for you and he's willing to do voice overwork in a sex if you need a sexy voice a narrator or you'll do whatever you need baby he was a phone sex operator whatever it took to get that money yeah well yeah we're all who was two and a great whatever but you had some guest players coming in great like some some some guest people we had a you all cool
lit me a people yeah I mean always always seems like I wind up getting a ton of folks that get involved one way or another but this time not a few remote things like Jared Hart did some some backing vocals Brian found from the gaslight was was unbelievably nice enough to agree to come on board and do a song that I just kind of happened to be friend him on Instagram
and I really like the solo stuff that he the solo record that he had was something I had been listened to for a few years since it came out and I heard his voice oftentimes I kind of hear things or whatever yeah sonically and I heard his his voice in this one song so I just kind of reached out to him say hey would you consider ever doing it and you know sure enough he did and he's friends with Jared a little bit too
and kid Doug Zimbone who's done some vocals on some some past stuff you know the one guys were were separate to you know but they had played on some other records and we flew in kind of stuff from them doing it just because it was impossible to get everybody together kind of thing yeah well who what um so like tell people because I know about like you know like what was your plan on like you put it out
but you put out for free on on on the streaming well as cheap as possible because he's some of them don't let you that was not not none of them let you or whatever so if you if you Spotify if you want to get some distro in your in a band or whatever you want to get things distro through digital media or digital streaming first off you have to sign up for like tune core which I or I think tune core is one and I'm using or there's a few other
ones a few other sites that just just distribute the music whatever so you got to pay them a little bit of nominal yearly fee or whatever a pro level fee I did so the maybe expedite some stuff yeah and then iTunes has a minimum or whatever to have to carry the stuff on the platform that they're going to charge people or whatever so they elected to do that because I want the stuff to be available and can't necessarily give it away
that all kind of backfire when a release date was so I just started emailing downloads to people or whatever for the first I my I must have done 200 in the first two weeks or something everybody files so so people were getting it and I kind of was backing it in that apartment and the the the plan has been and I've been raising money through people and pre-orders to help fund actual copies physical copies vinyl which is pretty expensive I think 500 now is going to cost me you know in the range of
3600 bucks or whatever plus shipping or and cardboard to put them in so 13 bucks for record is pretty pretty fucking good or whatever and all it is is just breaking even anyway yeah yeah yeah I mean and like I don't what's a typical vinyl record is like 2020 now I don't I don't know what they're retailing for just when you take account taken to account of course the more you make the cheaper the cost is or
whatever of course yeah yeah because I think if you're pressing a few thousand like the difference between 500 and a couple thousand probably isn't a lot of money you know well three between three and five or whatever for an extra 400 bucks you get 200 or whatever so at that point you because we're already up and running and making the thing so I mean it makes sense to throw in the extra to get at least that yeah I think my idea was also in the whole thing is no
variance because that's such a collectibility thing or whatever and people I'm old or whatever I remember black at black vinyl albums in the content of the albums was really what counted or the art that was on said albums or whatever drew you in and I understand it's a commodity it's a thing or whatever but they were baseball cards for us will be grew up or whatever you know no and it's true like I still I don't have a functioning record player at the moment
but I like to put on a record I like to hold a record on a record like look because I look at the same like what you're just saying I look at a record as like the whole the whole thing the packaging you know little thing I would when I was a kid I'd even read like like the inscriptions on like the of course the line of notes and everything no not the line of notes yeah like this like a video jazz no but like the
shit like people would write funny things on like the record itself like we would have like the catalog number and all that but you could write have a scratch scratch didn't they yeah yeah in the vinyl I think that's what I mean yeah yeah like factoring from the mean fashion but you could have done things written in there and I'd always check everything out like yeah I mean because it was a the thing is it was a it was a tangible thing that we have
the hell whatever I just I'm reading that listening to that the Bruce Brinx teen audio book or whatever that I just because I just finished one on Lou Reed so I figured oh while I'm on a roll I'll start listening to that and he was just talking about when he was young enough to buy his first album the Beatles 45 or whatever it was in the experience that he went through in those days they didn't have a record story went to like an apartment
store and it was only like it was an adult only kind of section that of course they changed the world all of a sudden they have to sell the stuff because everybody wanted to rock them roll yeah yeah yeah no same thing man and that's why it's like you know when cassettes came out it was good because now music could be more portable but I didn't like it as much as like a record is a perfect size yeah for like to look at the
art and really look at it and see things like if you're looking at a CD or like a or a cassette like you don't see as much or and especially like if you're looking at it you know through your phone like on a digital download I mean it changed the design element totally you know what I mean and then because I remember that as a kid going through I was a kiss fan or everything was kissed to me on the walls or whatever but my
mother had a pretty extensive record albums collection so I can remember seeing a Santana record from the cover and I you know I spun it or whatever just that would draw you in or whatever there was a lot more to the whole package and it wasn't based on hey there's 25 variants of these neon green ones or whatever you know they they had some good like they I was just talking to the guy at work today about about
the velvet underground or whatever so you got he friends with warhol or whatever you know all of a sudden there's a iconic banana a warhol banana is odd for the velvet under like who does that go through that effort nowadays or whatever it's not yeah yeah well and and it's like you said though but like back in the day the music the collectibility is like there's not a lot of people now that now there are audio files
that will only listen to vinyl and stuff and I'm I'm just talking about mainstream like mass people that don't not a lot of people listen to vinyl anymore so you got to do the color variants because now it's a commodity and collect and it's a collectible it's not you're not buying the music experience they're going to listen to it on Spotify or whatever and on the record and I'm guilty of that too I'm not
I mean everybody is a part of it's part of the culture or whatever Holly Davidson does it with the Diablo motorcycle or whatever it's yeah you know it's it's it's yeah limited thing and whatever but you almost got to do that to sell records nowadays like it's kind of a cheesy way to sell like three copies of one record because someone got to have the green one red one and the blue one you know or whatever it is but but like you said like it is interesting to think about like when we were kids
like there was there was no collectibility to it was like oh you get this record yeah and that was it you might have looked at like like you you might have the first kilomaw when it was still on mega force yeah and that became right over collectible once they got signed in first pressings first pressings is different or whatever I mean I remember my next to a neighbor moddy he had a pretty good collection
to or whatever and I think this is what talking about like 1981 or 80 or whatever he had the Beatles White Album which I think art wise was as stark as it got or whatever was just White Album or whatever so you can tell they were kind of kicking the industry in the balls a little bit too to double album and he had that on White vinyl or whatever and that was the only and I can't imagine what that's worth now because it weren't a ton of them
probably at all but yeah but you know it was weird back then but what I was gonna say is like you could just do a black record because vinyl was like the only means of listening to music other than eight track or whatever it was you know and so you know you're in a band you were selling a ton of records so it didn't matter you didn't have to do the collectibility aspect of it
you did it because it would be fun or cool but like you weren't doing it to to to to jack see I think they were selling music I mean the music was the key key component to whatever and that's like I said I don't know if that's a bit of a resentment that I have towards the whole thing it's how the world works or whatever so you know in in in and truth the whole thing is a bit of a protest in that regard or whatever
it's like hey I'm not I don't have to play fucking ball I'm not gonna play ball right down to the title or whatever you know what I mean it's we didn't even say the title well it's called pray for death and I feel like people will you know everybody who has will have an interpretation of what that is because we I was thinking on the ride over with lost friends or whatever and it's not a it's not a veiled attempt to tell people I'm in danger or suicidal or anything
it's that I'm sick of the way the world is or whatever the world doesn't seem like a great place to me for through a lot of things I'm I'm here for the duration or whatever that's my thing but I look forward to being able to fly like I do in my dreams and and chop you mother fuck his heads off every time I want waking up again and doing that again the next day so if Val Halle will have me you know what I mean
yeah I'm trying to think of that 22nd drop like I'm not trying to I'm not I'm in no day you like putting out the flag like just so you know like like well people like on the conspiracy podcast when people like I am not suicidal and if something happens to me like oh by the way yeah if something happens to me it's probably tell a swift body good yeah yeah well she's a woman you know it's gonna happen I don't mean to say that I have no means ready to kill myself I am but if something happens to me
like well what about some yeah it was it was not a mistake and it was not self-inflicted you're saying wow that took a wicked turn yeah that's what happens on this show like we can get serious for a minute but we can get serious we get sexy too get retarded whatever get weird get weird but yeah man so so the vinyl still in production yeah I'm gonna give it actually I think I have because I did some t-shirt sales to actually I can make a couple bucks on that or whatever
and limited to people that are ordering because it was a kind of limited run of that that I could afford to make so between that which I've you know accounting for in every little email that I get people are just emailing me the $13 for the record or whatever I think now it's it's like $2500 or something so I'm ready maybe end of the month to just call it call it and and pull up my own cash up for the rest of it to get it done and then yeah because I don't anticipate having
500 pre-orders or whatever and getting it fully paid I'm gonna have to come out of pocket eventually anyway and that's fine you know it'd be a close you don't I mean that's and that's it's it's it's beyond my wireless expectations as far as that goes I mean I think I don't have records of all the previous releases and how they've done on the streams but what Spotify out is you can you can look or whatever and literally less than three weeks or whatever
we're talking like 25,000 streams or whatever which I'm like I said I'm not privy to the stuff before but I could virtually assure that the other ones didn't do that or whatever in that amount of time so yeah and in its interest because like I don't know I don't like your music isn't like any specific genre now you know what I mean like it's like you can't say it's a punk record or it's like a rock record you're doing all kinds of different stuff
I don't think it ever has been really no no but that's what I mean but but but what my point is that like the fan base is gonna be like a different like you know what I mean it's like it's better it's it's it's more of a statement to the to the music that you are getting that much but it's but it's not in any specific genre you know what I'm saying like well right for yourself right that's one of the things that Bowie would say right for yourself and then see what else whatever comes as funny because Rio told me years ago too he I remember him saying
to me well you're smart because you don't you don't pigeonhole yourself into one style was a net I believe me you know you hung around me smart is not what the fuck I am anyway but I mean it wasn't contrived anyway it's just because I write stuff whatever turns whatever I it comes it comes out how it comes out or whatever yeah so that that's that is kind of cool because it's paint it's
hey one day you might be in the mood to listen to a country song one day might be in the mood to listen to something else acoustic or one yeah rock whatever yeah but that's what I mean it's like like the whole thing like you said is like a as a passion project like the music the way you're putting it out
that's a respectable thing that's not a lot of people doing shit like that is that's why I'm just giving you shout out on that I appreciate it pre-order this shit because this is a special thing like he doing it to like built built money he's not making any you're not making any I'm not doing it just to get it out there $13 shipped I mean it's gonna cost you $6 to ship a fucking
to be honest not to get it to you know past anything or whatever but I've never made any fucking money regardless of what I was on a record label or not so in fact maybe I've been told that I owe money so yeah that's wild right yeah or or that's a maybe that's a way to keep you away from looking at the books who knows who knows who knows I if I died tomorrow if we died tomorrow it was not by our own hands we have no desire to
leave this earth at this point I guess don't kill me baby but but yeah man so the hopefully getting the vinyl done in the next month and then well I mean as far as getting the old get at the end of the month and the month I'll put the order in or whatever I have to have a finite time where I can put an order in the then whatever turn around I think is the last when I looked at the first quote turn around was going to be about eight weeks at that time not like
COVID where they said it's going to take two years to record yeah well that was also because like you know subgenres and subcultures kept the vinyl going and then stream like caught on and then it was just like all right all these punk labels are these rock labels are these indie labels that have been keeping the vinyl presses alive for years got pushed to the back because fucking you know Electra or Warner or whatever that's how we're numbers power and
yeah we want to make this new Taylor Swift fucking vinyl so so fuck you fuck all your other customers like because we're going to press the thousand or whatever it is I mean that's a way the world of really if you got the if you if you got the means yeah yeah it's it's it's not meant for the little guy take to do that which is fine too I'm alright with that you know that's why I covered the basic cool that's why I covered the London song the work class
hero because I I came to terms with what that's I've been listening to that song since I was a young teenager whatever never really fully digesting what he was trying to say with that it's really about a class world it's about a class war and it's about being being okay with just being a work of be or whatever and not buying into what they tell you have to be or whatever you know
yeah as you sit here in your your your your coppentry outfit from today right yeah fuck yeah man you know like those angels stand by the words but yeah so any was there any going through you know and like you said you're working with players that are experiencing good guys and record and everything live was there any like was there any like spontaneous songs or any like you know any surprise things that just came out of the recording sessions yeah well that one the video the
one shot down song that I guess it's funny because my buddy Ken in the draft kicks was doing a serious radio whatever and I had been in touch with him and he asked oh is there any key at listen to whatever because I told him oh well which one would you call a single I'm like well there isn't he's like well they're you know they're going to want to know what a single is what what song you would so that when I have a video for it's kind of a little bit
up temple whatever not as depressing and sad as most of the stuff or whatever so I said maybe that you know but that song really was it was was pretty not totally worked out by me I had like a little bit of a verse or whatever a little bit of a chorus but it wasn't fleshed out and and we kind of just went into the control room and the guy grabbed the guitar or whatever you know Andrew grab a guitar and I kind of walked him through it and
went out and ripped it a couple of times and oh why don't you try 12 string on at this line and the next thing you know and it's all been filmed I think there was a buddy of mine Nick that came and documented the three days in video that I haven't got a chance to go through and look archivaly but that's how the video came up because he was nice enough to
he's got a little production company called Dynamite Day wonderful kid out of high in his and he offered to come and do and so you know I think that would be something nice for to put in a time capsule so to speak and to have somebody dig out and actually see what was going on with us on those three days you know yeah yeah that's cool and it's and then when you when you do become rich and famous you can go back and
have to have a quick I think I'm sick I think I'm sick behind the behind the music documentary on VH1 or whatever you know what I was going to say also what what we're talking about cool the coolness of albums you can really dump a whole fucking bunch of cocaine it's not enough album to just said he had to like make those little tiny lines or whatever a bump yeah first like you can just like draw out some shit on a fucking album
and I guess a phone if you're doing it off a streaming service it depends on which phone you have right I've never never experienced doing a line up a phone yet well because you've been you've been sober the whole time that phones have gotten to the pretty much the last time you were drinking it was still flip phone I was probably trying to try to do it off a rotary phone or whatever back then yeah I still think about that time in Vegas was like the last time I saw you really fucking hammered
it was such a fun night you know that's one of those good nights where it's just like nothing bad plenty of bad stuff so much potential horrific horrible things could have happened but nothing nothing did like like that remind me so that's just a reminder because you we won't go into the whole learn details of that but I was going to do something
be become a patron on subscriber if you want the whole story I was going to do something really crazy and there was a bunch of us like really beyond crazy or whatever like trying climb scale down the outside of a building to a a fortune beneath it and everybody would jumping telling me not to do it and I looked over and truth just looked looked to me right in the eye and he looked at everybody else and he said
no go ahead let him do it and and that was the moment that I became sober realize it was a very very bad idea so I'll you know you're welcome for getting you on the right path yeah I believe me I think that was my diabolical plan let me tell you honestly I can't give you enough thanks for that to have you in my life and all of that because I really do believe that like it's it's with brothers keepers or whatever you know what I mean
I wanted to ask you though because I was thinking about a little bit because around the record right its perceptions or whatever right so people take their take it run with pray for death or whatever they don't really know the story or whatever so I was thinking the other day because I've known you for a long time now and when I first met you you had the nickname truth or whatever is the nickname or whatever probably that's not something you necessarily gave yourself or whatever
but I thought to myself or always thought to myself was because because you spoke truth or whatever because you you come from that or whatever which probably is a little bit of it then all of a sudden it occurred to me that maybe it's because you can tell when people are fucking full of shit too yeah no I don't know no it originally stuck his ice to just say it like it was yeah yeah yeah that's that that was that but perception wise you know what I mean people are gonna take it
what what are they gonna have their own concept of it unless you hear it from source or whatever that's another I won't get into with the problems of the world now or whatever but take it from a source instead of any form of fucking news or whatever it is because whatever if you're listening to mainstream news you will listen to propaganda no matter what side of the queen
of course you got to do a little more digging and now it is you know it's funny because like in the early days of this podcast it's when we were still in like the you know the the middle of all the the high weirdness you know what I mean yeah and so like I had I did a lot more rants and people like those rants but I'm like I try not to do that anymore because I'm like I get so stressed out
I'm I'm I'm stressed out all the time like you know what I mean and it's just like well and the truth is I can we're funny because I went to a bunch of shows this weekend and and and I do believe that people are there there is a value to believing that you're socially conscious or whatever and trying to make people aware or whatever you know what I mean but I don't know it's to me to me actually doing something
like being physically involved in something you can say you want to help the fucking homeless all you want and and and anything you're doing to do that is great or whatever if you feel like making people aware people are pretty publicly aware of of homelessness or whatever so people and I get it it's still cool but if you really want to implement change in the world and society
actually physically get up and go do something donate some time in a homeless shelter or or you know instead of saying it do it or whatever you know all right here's what I will fucking say all right here we go and this is this is like not this is not you're going to get around that you this is kind of loosely based on that it's it's continuing that thread but bringing it down to it to a different level
going on Facebook and arguing about something or bitching about something no matter what it is political something going on in your town something going on in your life is not doing shit especially when you just all your friends are a little fucking echo chamber you're not doing nothing and it's so like all these people want to complain about stuff going on in the world or with politics and this and that once the last time you wrote a fucking senator
never right but and that's why we're in the the half the reason why we're in the situation we're in now because guess who's in these senators years these congresses or whoever's years lobbyists corporate motherfuckers in the world and they're not hearing from you and you're not holding motherfuckers accountable so you don't like the situation
where in because of you because of all of us I think we're not doing our job as citizens well what's the percent if you're going to be what's the word is activism if you're going to be really break the word down whatever activism means be it means action you know what I mean it's being active bitch on Facebook and doing shit make me make you feel better or something make you feel better it also just make you look like a buffoon that too I can't I'm as guilty as looking at like a
occasion lead to of course we are not a bucket but and I say it to keep myself in check too because of course and I if you've heard if I've said anything about a specific person or a senator so believe me I've written that motherfucker already because I can at least say look I I reached out to them and to the people that are in spoke to power right right right you know what I mean like speaking to like people
like and trying to argue with people about politics on Facebook is just it's special Olympics right it's it's done yeah I mean even special Olympics is not done even in real life you know what I mean even in real life listen we're not going to you're not going to change the way that people but people's morals but and here's the thing right because and I think maybe you I don't know like
if you see this but like if you look on Facebook you think the world's in like dire doom and if you go outside and walk around shits all right yeah I mean depending where you might see a little bit more homelessness you might see a little more grittiness I'm fine with that because like it's no way near the levels that that that's out like when we were kids like like you know like going to a show
like was a fucking adventure just getting to the show like then but you were in the pressure we were much more in the world more than just looking at ancient fables or whatever the chicken little in the sky is falling or whatever it was a tale that they told us as kids because really that the the crux of it is running around and screaming your head off that the sky is falling didn't do anything for the person in the story whatever the sky was never falling
or whatever and that this you know those metaphors were the people that invented those for us to hear they weren't just entertaining little stories dig a little deeper there to or whatever and get to the meaning of it all yeah and all these people and get political and like and they're looking at everything like it sports teams like I'm team D I'm D I'm team R yes what they both got you wrapped up and propaganda and you fight each other while at the same time the people up top
or laughing all the way to the bank just like if you look at w wf you had the heels and the heroes at the end of the day they break and break and laugh and at the end when you when the match is over that's the televised match behind the scenes they're doing what one could be man says you know it would be me without the other anyways yeah and so it's all it's all it's all a big game
like in guess what you upon motherfucker you ain't in it like you are not on the board like you know other than to get juiced and and and you're funding it you know what I mean like and you're the first one to get sacrificed I agree 100% and it's like I just get so annoyed because everyone's just like so like but they're like so like the own team can't do wrong and it's like
and then they're like complaining about the same shit like that they just did they're saying over Republicans are doing this and I'm like you motherfuckers just did it too or vice versa Republicans are Democrats do this and I'm like you motherfuckers are doing that too like and it's just like you feel like fundamentally rights some some great thinkers it that were humanitarian kind of had some things right or whatever
I'm not I'm spiritual now I'm not a religious person or whatever but I listen to something like Martin Luther King say well hate doesn't conquer hate or whatever you have to you have to find some it's hard to do in this world there's many people that I have a hard time turning a blind eye to and trying to be forgiving to in my own regular but really look at the crux of that you have to you if you're reciprocating what's coming at you that that's not going to not going to
find resolution you find one person dead maybe in the end of it or something or the other person you know what I mean but there's no real resolve for society that way and that's why they got us fighting each other yeah because we could really do some stuff if we got together of course yeah because their numbers are very small they go more
I'm not talking about blackout Friday which is a great little idea or whatever but like imagine if everybody decided they weren't going to pay their fucking more get your their taxes or anything or their electric bill for a fucking month yeah and just told them the fuck themselves what do you think is going to happen the problem is is that for every hundred people that say they're going to do it three will and then
those people can get so those three will get so royally fucked yeah right but it'll be me you yeah yeah yeah yeah but you know but like you know my whole thing is and just to go back as this show is you know rooted in in American subcultures like motorcycle
stuff of punk rock stuff or hardcore stuff or you know you know weird stuff you know whatever you know it's a world of the place right but so many people lost their way I mean how are you ever in a punk rock like when the first lesson was question authority of course he's
talking about a team D or now your team are up into the fullest like check yourself because you're getting played and you looking stupid yeah yeah and and it's annoying that's why I hate Facebook I hate it so much I've been off for 10 years or I go on for marketplace you know what I mean and but like you know I'll post on Instagram and then it posts the Facebook but like with the bike a culture which I'm relatively new I'm a relatively new guy
no you know you've been around a long time but what I'm saying like with the phrases like oh speaking man you got two bikes here you're gonna figure out you're gonna figure out this week old yeah yeah and some rent rent apparently folks hey I'll talk sexy if you pay I drew some rent from a bike to spend here for a couple more I don't you don't know what you're doing right
but the point I was going to make is in biker culture right these phrases like oh my it's phrase mind your business or whatever's very near and dear to me or whatever it's over the years of being friends with those my concept of that has grown deeper whatever those the simple phrase not a catch phrase it's not fucking America runs on Duncan or whatever it's a real phrase it works or or you know like
you're in a pie sure it's still available to that I'm worth a Mia dot com I think big truth at code still works for a worth of two so use that right see how you did you get right in maybe what was this word that you had to begin in the podcast do we have to remember that dongles or something but join goals or something like I was trying to think of not remember we both the egg both angles was no no no no no I was bobbles I was trying to think of the word bobbles and I was saying like but
dongles or something I can't remember go back I know a lot of you probably just skip the intro anyway but go back and listen to it because there was a yeah there was some stupidity in there because always is somewhere in the in the here so sooner or later so thing is stupid but we keep it going hey why not I'm going to make you know I'm going to make one of those new
podcast that says I'm with stupid but it's just going to point up because you know you know how you usually points to the left it to the right I was stupid it's just going to point straight up I don't even know what I probably shouldn't probably go into a put but you probably should this is going to get wack or whatever but because it's not an affront to anybody but there's a there's a shirt that I saw I'm a bunch
of this weekend fighting I fighting Nazis since since whatever since a year or whatever so jokingly I want to say like because I did actually jump in and I'm on a fucking dude that was e calling or whatever right so and I'm not saying that some guys that are putting those shirts out there are certainly were in the trenches back in the day or whatever too but most of the people that are wearing them now have been fighting Nazis since never or whatever so
by by by by saying harsh things on the internet you know I mean that's not fighting and I'm not discrediting whatever wear it all the time you want but when you run it to some Nazi that wants to beat you up because you're wearing it realize that you put the fucking shirt on the right and then beat him back or whatever you know because you know and I'm going to I'm going to go out and say this and it's going to be super
unpopular and I'm going to be labeled a fence walk or a sympathizer or something I don't like you can so let me just and it's not just about Nazis about anything you can believe I'm like a first amendment of course absolutely you can believe whatever dumb shit you want I believe that I don't give a fuck what you believe in and as long as you ain't doing anything physically or attacking me my family or my friends like do it think whatever dumb shit you want say whatever dumb
shit you don't have to somebody doesn't necessarily have to prescribe to that method all you can walk away people can walk away from that to whatever right you know I'm saying so but you know what I'm saying is like the only I'll get involved and handle a situation if you are doing something physically or you know menacingly to a friend of family or like something I care about right because that's to me
that's you know like people have the right to believe whatever dumb shit they want of course and people get people people employ fascist tactics to fight fascism I know I know and it's and it's like I've spent a quandary in mind for a long time because the hunter has become the haunted or hunter becomes a haunted or whatever and it's yeah I mean the point is I guess it doesn't matter if it's
constitutional or not right in the United States people are going to believe whatever the fuck they want to believe nothing there's nothing you can do about it bottom line is there's nothing here's the thing that I've been following this you're probably familiar with stowish or whatever right so I'm the most dog motherfucker around right so but that's based on you know concentrating on things that you can
change not things that you can't control and there there's a it's very whacked line nowadays you certainly can't change some things physically if you see something that is that it's a a warrant or whatever you know what I mean but yes you know Elon going a lot of trouble for that fuck for that I'm just doing it I don't like you were trying to make a point you didn't you just you just hand you ever see that chart like the acceptability of where your hand can be like in like a pie chat like a
little like a little bit you know you're low yet you're in the acceptable range but you were creeping up you were creeping up to that to that wrong angle um it's a good thing we don't have video for when it's for when it's in I was always told I had a face for radio anyway not for TV but um but yeah no uh the uh yeah no I yeah like I said we could get along a lot better if we we we it we didn't try and force our own values on other people and exactly and it's this is always the analogy I
look at more is or whatever so you grow up in pop and new guinea right and whacking somebody over the head and eating their eating their body is perfectly acceptable by everybody that that you grew up with or around or whatever here uh through the civilized world or whatever that's considered savage or whatever right so we try and change that's not your fucking job to try and change what people in pop and new Guinea doing yeah it's not a job no no
mind your business there we go full circle you know like but uh speaking of pop and new guinea I used to have the raddest I had this knife and it was from pop and it was made out of a human femur boom yeah and it was like shaved down and it was I wish I still had that that's my pop and new guinea stuff like it it was shoppers fuck too I believe was a summer I got it from the Peabody Museum in uh in Massachusetts
I don't know how I procure that I can't remember the thing about was in the 90s I had that I gave it away as a gift I hope somebody used it someone pay afford if you have a bone knife from somebody else yeah hopefully I want makes its way around back um yeah no that was just you know a weird non-secretary thing that popped in my head thinking of pop and new guinea
it's like I said if you want to understand where my head's out with pray for death or whatever that's where it's out or whatever it's where you know an indigenous culture or somebody that isn't been a tribe or a people that were never in under the constraints of this this reality that we all live in or whatever and they don't accept they don't have to accept because that's where they live or what the way they live and they know that it's right
and I morals aren't going to change their morals or whatever well we tried for a lot of well the church tried that for a lot of years they got some converts and some resistance what it is both yeah continually but yeah man yeah so the moral of the story is mind your business right and then when someone's in your business then handle your business
take care of business that's that's that's that's how that's that would be the crux of how I see it mind your business and then when someone makes their business your business take care of that business yeah and and you hear like I'm not even just advocating pacifism or whatever either but I mean you can you have a brain no I just take care of business right I mean that's a that's a general thing that people misunderstand about it is you have a brain to figure out
what's going to make situations taller if a situation is tolerable or intolerable you can decide that but there are going to be consequences for your actions as well so and then you've got to take the take the consequence see that's that is the crux of living in a free society and that's why shits fall in a part now because personal responsibility and accountability is a tenant of being able to function in a free society
because you need to be accountable for your actions and now everyone's not accountable and I'm like ah my fault I I'm a victim of this to that like or you know I grew up and you know I didn't have every video game so my life sucks and I can't be responsible for I can't go to work because I have you know ADHD or something like or whatever it is I don't know you know I get it
I get it I mean like but you know only shit right and and and and all your choice or or for you younger folks out there just wait for a guy that are as old as me in truth to die or whatever and the robots will fucking take over and you'll have nothing to worry about anymore anyway don't let me in with 60 bro I'm not I mean older
I'm a very I don't yeah you know it's fucking it's wild right like to think that we're still around doing all this shit right like man I thought was thinking on the right to like like I thought I'd be dead by the time I was 20 at least I mean you know like I really did and I live pretty hard now I'm 60 I mean I've I had a one I've had a wonderful life it's not
not shown with material or riches or anything but the memories that I've had because the memories can't you can lose a car you can lose money you can lose even even immaterial riches like crypto you can lose all that you you can lose your memory to the I'm losing to early I was early offset I mean yeah yeah but yeah no I'm I struggle for words now like
but the better I guess what I said the better half of my life or whatever it's on a physical level or whatever certainly has been is now I'm waning as far as that goes or whatever so you know remember you know the time is a precious commodity to or whatever you know now not to get weird or personal but like turning 60 did that have any I know it was only a couple weeks ago but like has that that's a milestone man and we all drop the ball because we should have thrown a big
fucking party for that I didn't realize I knew is your birthday but I didn't think that was that that was a big milestone funny thing is I feel like such a thing I'm going to say it on to the whole world I feel like a fucking massive jerk off in the first of a friend stop it it was it's it's so shall I played a gig a week after my birthday or whatever and one of the kids on the gig
squally green thumb or whatever was played we played Dave Wells had us at the place called satellite used to be at woods in Cambridge and I didn't realize because it was his birthday that night a week after mine or whatever he said oh I'm turning 40 and all of a sudden I had like out of a gray out I remembered that shall my girl had my 40th birthday a surprise 40th birthday in the very same building at the very same place I was and I said when I got
on stage holy shit up like just remember that I had my 40th birthday you know it's one years later and and then we got them with a set in Andrew the guitar player that I was saying played on the record everything broke out surprise broke out a cake again for me and I had my 40th and 60th really in the same building or whatever itself yeah doing the same shit pretty crazy yeah playing you know a little different music but still still doing you I my 40th I literally drink four or six
forties of old English I believe in like an hour and a half and then had like this vodka slushy drink and then I was like I missed the whole rest of my breath yeah yeah I was passed like sitting up passed out on a cooler for the whole rest of the night birthdays have always been weird for me because I obviously potty pretty had I remember being well now it's like a different like you're still trying to eat 60 points of ice cream or whatever I'm still
belligerent I did that well 50 I tried to eat 50 high-boiled eggs or whatever like cool and look and it didn't work out so great but it's always been a thing when I was 21 I thought I could drink 21 scorpion balls or whatever and got like nine down scorpion balls like nine who was it was a broil godden in Kingston where I tried to get like a couple of ordering scorpion go balls for two like nine and then probably
clinically dead or whatever I couldn't get 21 down for sure you know so well if it was a scorpion ball for two and you drink nine like 18 18 you know I was like I was dragged out of the place or whatever happy birthday to me you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah you live it still thanks you for that one I don't know if it's there anymore yeah amen you're here you're still like working a construction job
you're still doing music yeah I mean look it's like it's not life isn't over look at a by the way here's a if you guys don't do who fucking Vinnie stigma is which probably everybody listen to this does or whatever but he's gonna come on to he's gonna come on but people that are listening that maybe I don't know or whatever they're just kind of okay listen to the music or whatever that song about a guy that's
legendary guy or whatever and still just doing doing what he's always done or whatever I mean agnostic front just tours non stop and so I mean the point to that the crux of that is like life is an older just because you over just because you get older or whatever yeah but you have to work at it and that guy works at at stuff you know I hate yeah I'm when I get out of bed in the morning it takes a good few
minutes of walking around to get the back function on you know what I mean yeah brutal but yeah man so no one wants to hear about this I guess not you want me to talk about sex you know like the M4s have turned into like men's health consortiums but like drunk like at at the height of like all our drunk stupor that's when for some reason I'm a prostate someone to talk about something men's health related so yeah if you want drunk advice listen to some of the M4s my
stages in large I can sleep through the night though like I don't have to get up to pee so I'm good good give it another cup wow all you 53 oh dude seven years is going to fucking change your fucking life I'm going to do whatever it takes I'm going to preserve the prostate because the mind is going I can't have I can't be pissing myself and losing words when I make I can hold it or whatever
but I mean but then you get to the point where you're cramping up because you haven't had enough watch a dilemma yeah you haven't drank enough water in your physically active and then your legs that cramping see it's a very delicate little balance I get I get that like gallon of a Poland spring you know every day or two we got to do it I just smash that because the gym like because I go to gym first thing in the morning if I don't do that I like I'll get like a you know chalihosis
of course you ever have an abdominal chalihosis no but I get him enough I get him in my the the the back of my leg my hamstrings I get a lot then I'll get now occasionally been getting them in my hands or whatever I never had it and it's it's pretty fucking brutal the worst one is the is the legs in the middle of the night or whatever you get yeah because that's the jolting and you can't you can't walk it off you like hobbling like with a stiff like you're wearing one of those full leg things
whatever trying to get down with this you supposedly if you walk on a cold floor it'll help it go away so they say mustard or whatever somebody somebody I read somewhere mustard something about the so that's just a asshole that wants you to take it well dude whatever whatever it is I'm like hobbling down the stairs on one leg sucking down mustard in the refrigerator and get it goes a little work it's I mean basically you have to figure out some way to
relax the muscle anyway so I'll try anything or whatever you know yeah I heard if you if you slam a 16 ounce can of the chlamato that thing will go away really fast tell me how that works if you if you whack yourself with a ball pin here were three or four times in the head yeah no but yeah I've had the calf one the hamstring one but abdominal one is the worst I don't know because there's no way to stretch it out I'll have to try the mustard it seems to work and
I don't know is it like yellow mustard I use it I use the straight yellow or whatever and it's gross as hell and I take a big but I think it's has something to do with with some of the ingredients or whatever and they replenish is something that's missing in there or just or just the muscle feels so bad for you like everything feels bad because it's like this motherfucker sucking down dude I think of French I must it I wish it was like a
wish it was like a cam like a fat cam or whatever to see me in the kitchen hobbling down because like you know people and get something tasty out of the fridge like midnight snacks or whatever and I'm just like squeezing mustard out of the thing I was just so disgusting that like your your body's diverting everything to like keep you from throwing it well that just shows you it's painful and you'll try anything or whatever at that point so
yeah no I have not found a way to get rid of a of a whatever abdominal one yeah yeah yeah fucking hard dude sucks freaking out just thinking about it because I know I'm gonna get one no you know I'm wishing I'm no seabowing myself this is the absolute truth about how I was raised or whatever my mother put such Catholic guilt on me right that she would always go like if I was doing something bad
that you would tell me that that was going to happen to me so I never had cramps at all and I remember watching LeBron James on a game or whatever get cramps and cry like a little baby were on and a game and I was like making fun of around like hockey plays don't get cramps and cry like babies I get hit and so I still to this day believe like I that the first time I got one of those extrusion I think was on a plane is something
around people or whatever and I'm like God is punishing me because I made fun of LeBron James you got it on a plane I think so you did the worst thing the worst no way to move all right I'm gonna tell you the story about the worst flight I've ever had it was me and Christian we were flying must have been flying to Arizona or LA or something like it was it was one of those it would only been one of those two spots
we used to go see big Nick and LA yeah what's Andy Ago I mean or or the fellas and and Tucson and we were on a flight and I'm it must have been the flight home and I was like dehydrated or something and Christian I can never sleep on flight so I get aggravated because I just want to sleep like because I just want to time travel and wake up and be somewhere else and not deal with the plane because the plane sucks I had a middle seat was uncomfortable Christian was out
and then whoever was next to me like the other random pat was a sold out flight they were they were out and we were surrounded by a college gay men's choir and there was like 30 of them and they just kept playing games with each they were all over the plane they were in front of us in back of us and they kept jumping up and like doing things and then spontaneously breaking into song and all around me
and like I was like literally like I was just like I'm gonna go to fucking jail today like as I'm like miserable I'm tired I'm hungover I got kids popping up I can pitch you face like you know me so you know the first day I was just like and then I got a leg cramp and I couldn't move because they were asleep on the side me no no it gets worse and then I can toward it so bad that I got an abdominal one
and I couldn't move and then I'd get rid of one but I by moving in a way that would flare the next one up and I spent about 25 minutes in constant state of like dueling cramps like between a hamstring and a abdominal chalios I was like I am gonna murder a motherfucker today you're gonna hear about this flight like it's gonna be one of those flights and for some reason I just I tried to zen out and I think I think cuz it's such a painful thing or whatever it's kind of like
you don't almost have a choice at some point it's like you just kind of go you just a blue blood like when I last a little bit of finger or whatever it's like okay well it's just going on or whatever you just resigned to it you resigned to it it's not gonna get any worse than it feels now or whatever so and I'm such a like I couldn't even get up because the person that was asleep next to me I didn't want to disturb them and I was like I don't know him but I was like
why don't I care what this mother like I should just kick the fuck out of the face right now the smash or maybe get the fuck out of the way I gotta stand up and walk around but I know it was like I couldn't you know like control it all around I just like I dealt with it just dealt with it like a man dealt with it it's so fucking horrible well yeah but that was um that was my worst flight experience I mean it's except for one time I was on one of those
puddle jumpers like me and my boy Jamar we were flying from from Phoenix to Flagstaff on those like planes there was like little guy a little seven seats on each side yeah yeah I did one recently and I just remember first time I was actually like kind of asleep and I woke up with the plane just blowing sideways and I look up like like like like I'm not really literally side yeah yeah like not the you know what I mean like the wings were
parallel to the earth because it got blown and I was like what the fuck is going on yeah like this is it right you know that was pirate snort and coke off a kiss album yeah I threw up on the block Island ferry in my car the other day on the way home because there's eight or ten eight or ten foot seas on Thursday night when I came home and when you're in the whole day let your first off they let you sit in your car which I've been on ferries in Europe
that you get you can't stay in it or yeah I think the first time I actually did I with the street dogs I woke up in the bunker we had a little like a half a RV with some bunks and nobody told me I was sleeping and I woke up and then you can't move around in there or whatever you supposed to stay where you are because the car will shift or whatever but block island the day I've done it a couple times down in the car and eight to ten seas you do not eight to ten foot seas you don't
want to be in the car in the hall of that thing because you start rocking your shock absorbes are going like this you're back and forth and I started feeling like a little funny and I was like oh no I'm going to be all right I was breathing and and kind of focusing on an imaginary horizon line or whatever talk myself through and then things settle down and then it came like it the ocean got more violent and I got I got sick again and I went there like I had a
fucking loaf of bread for making sandwiches or whatever in the bag I was such an emergency I found more than I puke in the in the bag with the bread and whatever like and I'm looking around as a guy an electrician being next to me and I had texted child before like I was feeling a little we I go I'm pretty rough I'm feeling pretty bad or whatever so that I text her I just puked in a bread bag bread bag whenever
she's laughing back and she goes do you think anybody knows I'm like I'm pretty sure people notice it was it was like violent it wasn't a yeah wasn't a first time in 11 years I haven't puke since I stopped drinking and I was like it feels like a mascalating tool whatever you do it like I felt bad tears are coming out I felt like I relapsed crying and I'm like now if you're how long is that how long is that ferry ride it's an hour or
something but I mean it's it's I don't think I'll be doing it in the car again anytime soon so if you stay in the car you have to stay in the car no you can move down there they let you move or whatever but the cars are very close together so you can't really get out was the first time I noticed you can get out but they have you in there tight or whatever and the first time I know is you hear the ferry's tipping all the time right well the cargo
shifts or whatever even if you have your pocket right there was a girl that came down there was so rough the first time a girl actually one of the people that works on the boat came down and kind of I could see her surveying if any of the cars that shifted or whatever because then they must have to come down and move them back center them again or whatever otherwise if everything shifts to one side can't get out the
fucking boat goes over yeah then you're upside down or whatever yeah yeah yeah trying to swim out like the Poseidon who with a bag of puke you wouldn't you you didn't do that Martha's Vineyard ride with us right where we all rode the bikes but we rode them on the ferry took the ferry no but I mean it must be fucking bad it must be cool whatever you know it's not that cool but Martha's Vineyard does not want that yeah
Park Island short man I mean it's really not it's not much of a wouldn't be much of a ride oh we got kicked out of like every bar and we had a local with us yeah yeah they didn't they weren't they weren't stoked the whole the whole island was not oh well so it's probably time to do it again yeah sounds right yeah um but yeah no yeah I don't I don't I have I don't have sea legs man I mean I've been on boat
but I've been on boats my whole life for whatever and had the feeling before or whatever on maybe two or three occasions you know what I mean yeah it's tough once you get it's tough to shake it or whatever you know I mean it's like you know it's imminent or whatever you're trying to calm yourself down or whatever and I manage to quill it like I was like pretty proud of myself because I'm not having like the sweats or
whatever I'm like oh it's gonna be alright and then I looked at the clock and it's like oh it's another 25 minutes or so we were only halfway through whatever then it came back and I just the just a horrible experience and then I would have to do the hour and half drive home so like I thought first thing I dumped a bag or whatever pulled over find a trash thing dumped the bag out and then I'm in the car and I'm like
wrenched my mouth out or whatever and like alright well start to drive home then did you get it all in the bag eee most mostly and after it wasn't a it wasn't a situation it was gonna be a situation or whatever but like I'm driving and it's like halfway I'm then all of a sudden I'm like driving and I'm like oh shit man I'm now I'm getting in the car or whatever like I'm driving and I feel I wouldn't feel real sick but I felt like still like hung over
it's like oh this isn't man this isn't great or whatever you know I'll get that if I'm in the I'll get that if I'm in the back seat of a car sometimes yeah or reading like I could never read in the car at all it totally takes me over the edge yeah no I wish I wish I you know I've been on a fairies in Europe like a contour and all that stuff and like the the mouth is a new one but we were on bikes so like I wasn't but yeah man I don't do good sometimes like I can get C6
but I never throw up I just feel like absolute fucking well I mean it's one of those things and like they say okay okay I'm trying you trying settle you like you were talking about the cramps or whatever you said it's a worse you trying settle yourself or whatever find a place to calm but then it's like all of a sudden it was it was like the panic but I was like the guy next to me best of it like what the fuck is going on over there yeah it was so Linda Blair ugly like kind of vibe
it was like a piece I don't think I've ever done it's like actually fully seated like sitting up like upright or whatever like how much bread was gone were you in danger of filling the bag yeah I mean it was like I was couple of sandwiches where it was was more it was more bread than bag yeah it was not it was it was like a prison porridge or whatever maybe it fixed it was not cool the worst part is having to deal with that bag until you find out dude it was I mean I had that I
did have like a brown paper bag from shopping to or whatever that I quickly crumbled it up in or whatever and stuffed on the floor and then looked at the people in the car on the right side of me she just came with thumbs up the lady was just like I mean because that's cause the windows is kind of smoked anyway but I could tell they knew something wasn't wasn't wasn't you know what you got ten fucking seas shit's gonna happen too bad
so bad it just didn't happen everybody what's speaking of the brown bag I just got a visual one of our old shop apprentices Sonda when we were filming when we were going to do the chophead the TV show and we were like filming for true TV or whatever the the pilot thing with the dudes from practical jokers that dude Muff was a more or whatever was the the guy yeah we were we had to go to was it brimfield where they do all the
antique shit yeah we had to go to fit but we had Dave Santoro still had like one of like those like like a 90s RV and we drove that we were all on that and we got so fucking hammered on the way like so fucked up Sonda was so fucked up he was puking into a paper bag but there was no bottom to the bag so he kept thinking he was puking in the bag and it was just coming straight out the bottom of the bag just it was so fucking gross but hysterical at the same time like you
know it was like you know those things were just like you're just looking at him like dude you fucking serious it's like it keeps throwing up into this bag and it's like you'd not see that there's no bottom to that bag and it was just straight like it was just like you just spuking into a funnel it's like the family guy that goes reverse when they're all throwing up and then they start swallowing the
throbs not going back to the body yeah yeah I have like still such a vivid fucking visual like dude what is wrong with it yeah it's no wonder with that shooting get me that we're very professional yeah I got that memory you know it may be cool still now let me come around or whatever yeah but um yeah no that ain't like yeah those were funny days man that was a good time we had so much fun on that because Keith was down from Jersey like you know there was still like when everyone was still
barbarians and wild you know I mean we were still like way more wild but yeah she was funny as fuck Sonda passed out we drew all over his face then we had him hit on hitting on ladies downtown like he didn't know you know what I mean so he's trying to be all swallowing we didn't know he had the stuff on his head he was up nothing you re-tied you know you look really sexy then when he came through he got so pissed he's like let me talk to people
oh man it's fun having shop apprentices I need some more shopper I need a apprentice for this fucking podcast you heard it here folks if you want to get your face drawn on the pubic you got a bag you can play with me no we need I mean yet like we need some to run a board undo the film stuff because it's time if you got if you got some skills in that him you well can't hurt to
have somebody that's helping a bit that's funny because that radio show I did a bit or high school kids or whatever but they're all they're learning actual skills doing stuff like that was in a real radio show like real radio station in a TV station or whatever right in the side of the high school right next to town hall or whatever do but they do that so they do the town meetings in the TV area and it's it wasn't it wasn't necessarily a just a school program it's a regular radio station there
that's a because I know the college have a radio station but I never heard of a high school having a radio scene that was it's wilds right in Rockland sent a tool whatever it was really awesome little setup rock Rock goes rewind is Rockland the Ritzie area no not necessarily I mean that's funny because it's pretty working class Rockland yeah I mean it's just it's Gateway to Brockton or whatever we would call it
so that the border is Brockland Brockland exactly Brockland yeah yeah no but like it just weird for high school like it's cool for a high school ever I mean it was it seemed like such a cool I mean I don't know what kind of career really broadcasting would ever be but the kids were there like they were he every facet of it he kind of ran or whatever you know with the guidance of the program director so hey man that's awesome and more than I was doing like I was just eating tabs
LSD at 17 in high school so props Rocco yeah but you are you were you were forming the you know you're forming the outline of your life yeah that's what brought you here right now look at me you can do it you can you can better in bread bags on the very second that should be a song maybe maybe it will be maybe it will be true I'm still going to get you to do a what the fuck is his name Peter Boyd cover oh yeah Charlie boy
Charlie boy Peter Boyd's another guy yeah yeah yeah Charlie boy if you don't know if you don't know he's a Canadian a very well-respected Canadian artist yeah and he's on Spotify I believe and uh yes you don't have to pay a tariff to get his music because you can get it on Spotify and it's wonderful stuff it'll bring you down the sexy alley the one is the one I can hear you doing because I hear it the way you heard the guy from gaside anthem on your song yes Brian family I hear you doing the
Charlie Boyd song the one that we've laughed at plenty of times on road trips we knew all the words to like in it's like the one who say hey you like I hear you talking to you yeah I hear it the hey you and your voice hey you not not like that but you're real hey you I'm talking to you yeah yeah maybe I can do it in that low sexy voice whatever I have my own little interpretation hey you hey you I'm talking to you guys look it up once modified for the rest of the words did you ever watch
aqua teen hunger force occasionally I mean I've seen it your sexy voices hand banana what who's hand banana he's not the mustache guy the soda he's the dog that's made out of a cow's foot hair I don't I don't believe him familiar with the he's like he's like I'm just a dog I know the meatball I know it's great I know the meatball he's like you tonight I don't know I don't know what they can't reap in cow that's the whole of the characters I just
like I know the meatball guy no I will play you hand banana afterwards in it creepily like your voice maybe yeah maybe I am all right well yeah so what are you coming up music wise as far as like shows because I know I got I mean I've always got stuff coming up but the most if you're in the area in the New England area I think Saturday I'll be at the Galactic Theater it's a Dave Sicabilly's place in Warrored Island you gotta give the date so because that is a
Saturday because that's Saturday the 22nd of March so you maybe too late by the time Mrs. Outer whatever this is come out Wednesday so I'd be too late it's this Saturday so don't go to that one if you if you're hearing this now because I won't be there I'll have already been there but I do have one coming up with a button Syracuse if pale green stars buddy my Cory's band and that is Friday April 4th and let me see if I can see underwater bosses is on the gig
to in a band called jug I might even know what what on teal I think it's a two oh two six teal Avon Syracuse New York yeah cool so so if you're up they go are in to me so where can people and I'm not trying to win this down but I'm just trying to do this because I don't want to forget if people want to help in preorder the record what's the best way to do that I mean really I just been accepting
a papeller Venmo for for the 13 bucks that'll include the the album some cod board to package it in and shipping and that's just Lenny gang of one gmail.com you can leave a note in in whatever payment form you have or whatever to let me know with a shipping address or whatever soon as I have the things in hand then I'll start shipping them out or whatever you know the sooner the more people that sign up the quicker you're all going to get your records I mean I feel
like it that's that that is a part of the crux of it but I mean I know I know that it has to be a finite kind of thing it so I'm kind of setting end of the month or whatever another couple of weeks and that'll be done and I'll I'll I'll I'll block out the rest of it and then and it will only be see his a thing I'm playing that whole thing to because there is a commodity a finite thing when the pistol boys record kind of came out 20 years ago or
whatever they press 200 of those things now I still have people asking me about them there was only 200 or whatever so you can't get anymore or whatever hypothetically or whatever and I'm not saying that down the road never I won't ever press any but my goal is to make this pressing and that's it when they're gone they're gone and there's the commodity in it is no green ones that'll be gone before the black ones are gone or
whatever it's when they're gone they're gone or whatever you know there's a finite amount will not be repressed I mean if you want the physical copy you got to jump now maybe when I'm maybe when I'm dead and gone or whatever they're repressed but I you know it doesn't seem like 500s a lot of records for an indie guy or whatever you know it's actually like I said beyond my wildest dreams to be able to do that on a level like this yeah well that's what I mean because in a
500 records years ago it wasn't nothing because people were still buying records but 500 records in this market is a lot of pocket with that with with with no real campaigns or any of that stuff and I can always just don't know me that I could always say I can't fucking give them away after if I have a stack of men home I fucking records I can't even give them away yeah well you won't you won't you won't because
I said even if you just because like you're not trying to profit off it you're just trying to recoup so even if you like had some left and you brought them the shows and so on for six bucks you don't mean you're gonna sell of course and really it like lately my whole method all even selling merch or shows or whatever this is what is mind blowing or whatever I've done a couple of shows and I just set up a Mason job that I have and
it says on the mission job take what you want leave what you can or whatever and that's all it says I don't go back and check it or keep an eye on it sounds like the name of your next record yeah it does but I really I've been doing well through that you know what I mean and not pushing something on it and really beating a drum of it necessarily people will help out if they if they and that's in the local
area where people I've been lucky people buy the stuff that they're buying second time to give somebody else or whatever you know yeah I'm I am paying it I'm trying to find hand banana because you keep talking you keep talking I can't believe that my my suit only in his hand banana hold on dude you're gonna see how eerie my doppel my vocal doppelganger it's not even a thing vocal doppelganger you sound like he sounds just like somebody I know when he's on aqua team hunger for
I gotta I should probably I'll never can you can the phone do that let me just ask if the apple I can do this my name's here no anymore we're done talking we're done over and fixing this thing up he's not a boy he's a man could he just write me you think you could back that up listen to the thing bring back that up I got bruises to prove it no no I mean that that's me it is dude that's right it sounded that we made a we made a thing tonight we made a connection that send me my residuals
all you're gonna get what else hand bananas gonna come rapian it's it's eerie hey and speaking of Syracuse I'm not trying to steal the thunder here but American Warme scene is making a comeback after after a little bit of a hiatus that's rad and we're playing Syracuse as well on a May 12 no sorry may hello May 16th with May 16th that lost horizon Syracuse with with brick by brick shia terror and chromax that's a big bill it'll be a good bill be a fun bill and there's a couple other bands too and
I just can I like to make the trip up there I've been playing a little pool and there's a lot of good pool up upstate too so if you jump in with us okay you can do a whole handbending this if you'll have me this is like a road trip now we're just gonna beat something I mean most you guys bring it to me and I'll let but somebody's getting raped you're gonna be in a in a in a bread box yeah spread bag that's probably more likely that happens than I actually raped somebody oh yes
I would hope so I think I would hope that you can a bread bag well the voice is getting me a little lot of control um but obviously I'm glad you recognize that you sound like him and because I didn't want it this to end without without I mean you're you're you're right and I should have believed you in the first place so you like and this is to all the listeners I'm sorry like I know we I did that re-release of the albara episode for St. Patrick's Day and I've been slacking on new
episodes but we were traveling there was a bunch going on but I got you're gonna be in in a a steam of like new episodes that are coming out because I'm recording with you I'm recording two episodes on Sunday and I'm just telling her we're back in the fold and I got some some heavy shit coming all right good ways it's gonna be good stuff I'll tell you I don't want to give it away because I don't like to say it's like I don't want to say publicly till till they're recorded yeah yeah
keep just keep it in the in the in the surprise vault well no and also I don't want to say something gonna happen and then it doesn't you know what I mean because hey I just had another idea I think handpub it can fit in hand but it can come on to a whole show yeah I'm gonna send you the episode watch it learn the lines and then you just come on and do that yeah and I don't know why I knew that like like I can't remember basic words but I can make
associations with because it's a damn fine TV show truth that's why but uh but yeah we got a bunch of good episodes coming out in in the the the music genre we got a bunch of weird ones coming out paranormal paranormal conspiracy all kinds of stuff I got um I got some good music ones coming but yeah I got everything from stuff involving cults and serial killers ties to a specific cult come in I got a woman who is a UFO abductee and okay yeah I have a guy coming on who's
gonna talk about skin walkers and water children a water babies and like other weird paranormal phenomena I'm gonna go on a Native American reservations um and then I got some music stuff coming that's gonna be a blast from the past from the 80s no shit uh yeah um and uh yeah well people might know what that one is because we got uh April 10th at the Dipper we got Ricky Rackman from uh I saw that head bangers ball and ace from the LA guns right coming yeah to the Dipper to do an
appearance and they're doing a live show the or show the next day at the vault at the vault and shout out to Roger from purchase tree records who's always uh uh making music stuff happen but Roger was a sponsor of that Rockland show the radio show that I did too and Rock uh Rockles rewind yeah okay is it is a benefactor of that so thanks Roger for everything you do bro yeah he does a lot in the music community um and all different genres of music but yeah so so I'm supposed to record I'll
let that one I'm supposed to record with those guys on on Sundays that's one of the episodes so that'd be funny just reliving 80s uh uh music stuff I bet you they're gonna talk about they're not gonna talk about if they talk about puking and bread bags and and and and I'm like it's gonna be they'll be some cocaine they're gonna talk about cocaine by my my funny Ricky Rackman story is that years ago I was in LA and there used to be this diner called swingers
I think was called swingers and they had the Harley number one is their logo and it was a super good diner and um I was in there and um you know because it's LA so there's like just all kinds of people around like the dude from friends was around uh James Woods was around in the place and the Ricky Rackman came in but he tripped and fell oh I don't know if I'll ask him about that no no probably not remember that time I do like Chris Folly like hey remember that time remember that time you
you came in the swingers speaking LA remember we went pretty cool remember we went to the like the style was by that they had that pop-up style was born in LA the last time we were there yeah yeah that was a fucking weirdest thing LA's fucking weird people oh wait you that that was um the dude from Maryland the Maryland Manson's guitarist Twiggy that was his birthday party yeah there we were yeah well now and we were the only do not dressed up I didn't want to stay or I think I was actually
well so like how did that work out because I know I went with Packer Frankie I think was one suggested I Frank Lloyd I think suggested that we go over there whatever because he knew some folks or whatever oh no no no no Mick Mick oh maybe it was Mick yeah Mick cuz he would have worked yeah head done to work Mick was working for Maryland Manson yeah that makes sense that was yeah that's like that's like that's like that way that used to be the fun charm of LA is that you'd go there and
you get whipped into all these weird situations that was pretty weird situation whatever but I don't I feel like it's some of that a lot of that magic gone well maybe it'll come back and I've only really been there for like memorials and funerals so like I don't know you know what I mean like lately post COVID I gotta go again for for for some good times see if that's cool see if we're should pops up again but yeah dude I that that I wonder if that boss still there I think it went long it was
supposed to not have gone as long as it did I heard and then I because remember it was like a popup thing or whatever and that that's a lot of work to go on a pop-up like to make this whole recreation I think it wound up sticking is the point I think I remember asking somebody a year later and said no that place is still there and going you know like yeah or going wild or whatever people are still into it yeah yeah before we cut off can you explain to me what happened
cuz I really learned that today with you I'll just precede in this area there's always a little tar shack kind of houses in middle borrow there's one in onset going into the way him line off at 28 and I guess one here I notice going through free town a little area and they usually we always on the construction sites called Pink Eye Village or whatever never understood why and truth informed me today why or whatever yeah so um so you know we're in an old part of the country
where people have settled for a long time since the 1600s so there's some people who have families that go far back yeah and um and they might some people aren't from well to do families they have sex with each other people but they're very land rich you know I mean yeah yeah yeah because they have vast quantities of land because you used to be you just had land you know what I mean and they didn't sell it so they're in areas where you know some areas where like land is of a value now
but they're still like living an old very old school existence yeah yeah and um the Pink Eye Village comes from uh that one in middle borough there or that area yeah yeah yeah yeah there was a large consortium of um inbreeding that led to uh you know rampant albino it's so crazy and that's why they call it I always thought was because a conjunctivitis is something I never did because there's one in the one in because there's a bunch of albinos is another one in cover where there was an area in
cover there's one in almost every little uh little farm town around here there's an area like that or whatever I never knew what's fascinating yeah it's hidden message so it's like it's we got we got the bridge water triangle we got the it's like dueling banjo it's like the dueling banjo seat with the Massachusetts chainsaw massacre families like yeah it's like that's do awesome yeah man we got it all Massachusetts I mean you know as much as the tax rates and dumb stuff sucks we still
got some I mean all kidding aside the ride drew today for because I came a different way to the shop than I usually do in free town it's such an awesome town I mean it just it's between the uh because I went by the town I love it when I'm not being persecuted yeah yeah well I mean you get it if people gonna be like that everywhere or whatever but I mean with it as far as a historic the historic area down to that little area downtown the grandpa's store or whatever you hang that
right coming in and then you going by the cemetery some historical houses in the area then the far store free town far the town far which obviously has the lore too it's just a real cool ride if you that's that's the ride I take to the tattoo shop every day it's so it's so awesome I mean what a nice what a wonderful place to to be in a in such a uh wacky rat race world or whatever you know that's what I loved about free town when I moved here is that it was still more of an old school like
my business town like people cool it got during the covid times it got a little run uh there was a run on the town by people that don't really fit the character of the town and then they do what they do and they try and take over the town and like they left their place because it was a certain way and then they come to this place and they try to make this place that place yeah yeah yeah yeah like
what Massachusetts has done to southern New Hampshire and southern Maine and everything or what California's done to every fucking class you know what it happens it inherently happens you know yeah so um but but free town is still a little slice of old school America man like it's cool like what this is like what I really liked about this is when I first moved here or when I was when I when we bought the shop
here but I didn't buy a house here yet is like you'd go to the the little store up the road at the near the rotary yeah and like high school would let out and like the high school kids were just still like high school kids yeah it didn't look like a video shoot yeah yeah yeah they were just like regular ass kids like it like pick up trucks and whatever it looked like 1980s yeah yeah yeah you know
what I'm saying about that yeah I mean I know because I couldn't kind of I mean I grew up in the 80s or whatever yeah it just but there's a there's a there's a and I was like that's cool man like they weren't simpler it's a hack into simpler times away yeah yeah yeah and you know and by and large the town is still mostly like that but you know there's been an influx of people and then my favorite thing is
you know you're talking about that area where there's like the old farms and stuff by favorite one of my favorite memories is the family that lives there still hunts and um during deer season it's not uncommon for them to have deer strung up yeah yeah but like literally they used to have a donkey tube that would walk around and literally be right on the side of the road but these deer are like two feet from the side of the road yeah and I just remember seeing this BMW coming up with this family
like little black and the eyes or whatever yeah and they're coming up and I'm looking and I'm like oh this is gonna be funny and then they saw the deer strung up and they're all like the kids are like crying and freaking out like pointing and like the parents are like trying to explain these two guys the goats and chickens gonna come in on the property hero yeah because our neighbors have a little farm in the back of the their house and and so um yeah dude if this door's open like
you'll like be worse than you look up and there's like a goat looking at what dude it's awesome they're weird though because like the goats and chickens are weird because they're not afraid of you and they come in and they are obsessed with coming in the shop yeah but they don't want to hang out they're not friendly but if you go like go to pet them they walk away unless you have food if you have food you can you fucking hang it they'll fucking pet they'll they'll per like a kitten but if you
don't have food they just walk away well they know what they don't they don't run like they're not afraid yeah they just like yeah like like no no we're not you know it's cool buddy just just keep on tamper with your motorcycles or whatever you do over give me a call when you got a carrot motherfucker like that's we want the food yeah but they got peacocks they got uh that's cool they got all these baby goats and the goat herd has gotten bigger because it's the regular goats and now there's like
they got the pygmy goats the ones that freeze up no those ones those ones are those ones are smaller the ones that freeze are really good I don't know I can't I can't have that because I like I would abuse that power so much like but what's beautiful about this because they get a they're like I he is it all right and I'm like I want to give you shit like yeah I wanted to get a goat yeah you having the man shall we love him anyway yeah but now I am a better uncle yeah like go
don't go yeah yeah I mean it's like I get to have the goat like walk around and it's fun and then like I don't have to deal with like actually having a fucking take care of it like I figure out what to do if I'm gone for a week like uh right right right right I mean like that it is a yeah the heavy responsible yeah heavy lifting is is you can just watch them walk away from you and not let you pat them or whatever when they come into high volume when you're but I don't have to corral them in that
night and deal with all the others I love them anyway I think they're super animal and it's like you got to have they're very social animals so you have to have you can't just have one you get but here's the thing with free town as opposed to like Weymouth with me and Shell had because uh it's it's it's there's more people in a closer proximity or whatever and then to have a lives what they consider livestock or whatever you know I'd love to have it or whatever
of truth you have to go through certain channels to even see if it's okay to have and and here it's like it's a little there's that's the free right a little more a little more like that I think you know what I mean which is cool because but you know me and Chalem the eye if we had a little pen on the goat it's not gonna bother anybody you know like no why should there be some kind of wacky law about having what you should do is figure out you should get a couple goats and chickens and
register your house is farm so that you get subsidies and you don't pay property tax I think I'm gonna probably look into that because uh the coyotes are already rampant and running around anyway trying to eat my dog so I might as well have an excuse to it uh lure them in and get them to or whatever more you know yeah well if you got chickens the coyotes are definitely coming around they're gonna love that they're everywhere but you're a good carpenter and you can build a really
sturdy uh chicken coop and uh maybe some some of those tree stands too yeah you don't get I've been to your house like you don't not enough trees not enough trees like you well you can't you don't yeah yeah I mean you could but probably getting trouble don't room a dreams truth I love trees stains you can build a tree stand but I wouldn't be hunting coyotes out probably not a good way but yeah actually I already talked to the animal control guy uh about that a few
years ago when I saw one like in broad daylight and and he kind of broke it down because they're on this they're still under protected animal they're not in danger but they're in a protected animal thing in in in mass okay the state of mass so he basically broke it down it said listen unless they rabid or whatever we can't do anything about it anyway and uh I said it's like with broad daylight or whatever you know like this things walking around a tool clock and they have to do right in the
street or whatever he goes look even if I came down and look at it they have they're so fast and they cover such a vast amount of yeah it'll be a territory it goes it could be 15 miles away by the time I get there and you'll and I'll never so you know that's pretty frustrating when you have a couple of small dogs and you know they're there kind of eyeballing or whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah but I mean you just got to be extra vigilant you know especially like waymith being on the ocean you
not thinking you have to deal with a coyote problem they they are everywhere dude when I lived in Dorchester um we had owls we had raccoons we had skunks like we had all kinds of things yeah I was like I'd look out third like on my porch third floor I looked down into the backyard and you see all kinds of bullshit going on you're like what the fuck we at crackheads we had everything I was like is that a is it gonna be a score is it gonna be a fucking raccoon or a raccoon
crackhead who knows what it's like for or a skunk yeah I will have I will have a domesticated raccoon before I oh you really love that idea I told you about that I told you about the alcoholic one in high school that the that a kid had right yes he would he he would the kid got him on like kind of kind of whatever and then because we'd all hang out in potty at the same area whatever like we did in high school back then or whatever kid I think I forget that kids I'm gonna forget the kids
there but I remember he had an awesome uh GTO with the fucking true six pack carburetor or whatever and he had this thing since it was a baby and uh it would like kind of kids or whatever and then it got to the point where it's out of getting older or whatever and it like kind of kids in beer so much that it would just climb up people's legs and take their beers out of the hands it was it was an nasty little drunk too like when it got drunk it wasn't as nice of a raccoon that it was it
it was a surly drunk yeah he was not a fun hot that's right that's the dream I just want to sit on the porch I mean just be surly oh I want to listen to nine pound him a drunk tired and mean and just with the with the raccoon and we're just drinking hey you got even yeah you got to have dreams good have dreams because you have you have to reach for the stars I like the way it look at me when you say that no you know what that was when uh when Ryan was still alive
like you know like with a tattoo shop is it's like a weird we're in a weird little um strip mall yeah yeah well there was like um down the end of it the dance pole dance studio yeah the dance studio yeah and they had them outside one time for some reason and they were like practicing and so me and Ryan I'll like spinning around on on on on on our on our handicap park inside in front of the tattoo shop and we're like we're gonna open our own pole dance and then call reach for the stars academy
love that that that's my my uh my great american dream thing is the uh whatever shop next to the shop and that's the whatever shop is just better than this guys it's a it's a it's the sign it's just a a finger that points down to the shop next whatever shop it is doesn't matter what you sell whatever the name of your shop folks you can take the idea and do it better than this guy shop or whatever like our our strip mall where the tattoo shop is there's still a vacuum cleaner store oh yeah
specializes in vacuum cleaners and repairs them i'm like that's like the gotta be the last vacuum and not crop in in the come no there's one that there's actually one in wameth really there was until until recently or whatever that that did like he's a really was I it may not be the now that we that you mentioned it but until within the last within the last year or two and it was of mind boggling because he didn't even have really cool like contemporary vacuum cleaners he had
some fucking old Hoover fucking ass shit that he was putting belts on or whatever anyway like 300 pounds solid solid steel like it did not it's like type like a typewriter store or whatever he's still selling those old ass fucking things or whatever i always wanted he was there since we he's been there since we like it's been 18 18 years or whatever since a vacuum store was a was a viable business he's doing something right or whatever but yeah it's wild um
whatever you remember like 70s like the big thing like one of the big things to have was like central back yo yeah they never happened to that it never worked right never never and then people started putting their private in them and and and and of course it was just not uh you know it's didn't pay an out again freedom comes with a certain amount of personal responsibility and accountability people put their privacy just everyone's gonna do everything to dumb shit like that
but i think uh yeah just just not generally never worked out to be it uh it was a good it was a good concept but bad uh bad in uh reality yeah i mean and now you look look at the advances in technology whatever and that to pop and whatever pretty soon AI will just be there'll be AI rugs and they'll be cleaning themselves or whatever they're probably swallow your feet world going like world's gonna be a different place in like 10 years oh 10 years as i tell you i'd never thought
it like i said now i actually i have this morbid fantasy that i actually am gonna live long enough to see it or whatever because things are increasing exponentially faster whatever so you think like must that has like they they get the factory building thousands of those robots like right now yeah i was always saying like i don't know how good they'll be you know like it's just the first one and you know the first one's always like novel but it kind of interesting but look at your iPhone
what the iPhone's become in 10 years yeah but now it's good to a point with it like there's no difference between like the 9 10 12 fucking 15 whatever it's on well well there is difference because it's minor though yeah but the difference is now it's it's adapting the AI is incorporated in the 16 now yeah yeah so it's it's adapting things answers that you would say or whatever and preempting kind of a lot more than it ever did i have a 16 you know i was fucking around with that you better
look at some of the settings that you have on i know we're gonna have to go over that after uh i was fucking with that groc shit i don't know i don't know what that is but the AI but you can put it oh i see yeah you can put it in like different modes like you can put i'm looking at it right now you can put it in conspiracy mode oh yeah but you can put it in unhinged look at the i look at the rednut detector feature on there or whatever they say it's gonna be for blind people there's
some things in there that are like really weird in this new one all right we'll have to talk after and if anyone's listening to anyone's made it this far um you know i think it was pretty interesting yeah i mean i'm interesting but um but yeah dude the the the conspiracy mode it's fucking crazy do you ever you want it you want to see yeah of course i do all right let me see if i can get this to work all right what do you want to ask it uh oh i would ask it uh where's the best place to have a
charity nude bicycle race oh that's not in conspiracy mode it isn't oh you got to ask it a conspirator thing yeah hold on oh a charity nude bicycle race sounds it all right i'll i'll oh no if you keep talking it it's gonna interrupt it all right scratch that um i got one don't know i'll go ahead uh do do do members of the nazi party still exist and operate in the uh current times you're asking the real questions now yeah members of the nazi party they never
went away man they just put on fancier suits and warmed their way into the shadows of power think about it secret societies underground bunkers coded messages on x some say they're pulling strings in government especially in places like argentina where they all fled after the war the mainstream won't tell you that though they want you to think it's all history you ever wonder why certain politicians push weirdly specific agendas could be a clue what do you think any suspicious types in
your town is Hitler still alive oh you're going there honestly i wouldn't be shocked if Hitler's so kick in somewhere they say he died in that bunker but where's the real proof some folks on four-chance where he escaped to south america maybe argentina or even in arthica where the nazis had that seeker base operation high jump stuff there's also that crazy theory they cloned him cryo freeze or just good old plastic surgery could have kept him going the officials goes on and on
yeah but what is going on in the antarctic in the area that is not visible on google maps dude and arthica's where it gets wild that blank spot on google maps not an accident they're hiding something massive down there could be nazi bases from world war two still active coming with weird tech or maybe it's an alien crash site you know rogals just a distraction for the real deal all right so we're gonna shut it yeah
it's like i'm talking a ryan but that's what i mean it's wild dude imagine how that's 10 years ago and it's like colloquial and it's in it's how it talks and then it's unhinged mood where it goes wild and well it's talking just like yeah dude oh man yeah yeah you ain't gonna believe what i laid out what i tell you now oh now you're getting it it's like it's fucking crazy dude that's so cool yeah but see this is how it starts it starts with like fun novelty shit and then it turns into
shit you you know what i mean like for real that you sell real fucking for real let's say now I just saw a thing the other day about AI knowing that deceit knowing that learning the out of deception and lying or whatever is is a is a thing so just imagine you know where that where that goes well the other thing is is that they had say i hate sound and ignorant with stuff but there was like some place where they had made two a i's and they had them talking to each other and i wish i could
reference i'd have to look it up but you can reference if you look it up like two a a i's talking each other they had to shut them down i remember because within like a day or two they were talking in their own language language that we couldn't understand that we couldn't understand and they didn't know what they were talking about so what i always tell people right so like that was that was maybe 10 years ago yeah and that's like at the early days of it that was 10 years ago when they
were doing that right so these your hands getting but the brilliant mind the brilliant scientific minds that were watching that right said well let's just shut it off for whatever now i'm a weak-ass high school graduate or whatever from 1983 and i always have a contingency plan or whatever so you think that some two a i sophisticated enough to create a language that we don't understand didn't know that we would potentially shut it down and have a backup plan to show up in some
cash register at a McDonald's in Kansas City or whatever you're out of your mind it's you're like oh you know like and then you're like did you never motherfuckers never see Terminator or what was a war game to whatever after that was like that do you those two movies should put a healthy like if you grew up in those times a lot of healthy scary a lot of kids a lot of people haven't seen the movies or whatever they're not references do you want to play a game shall we play a game shall we play a
game you didn't say it like every three way it was more like it was old school like you know i know it's a robot voice i get it i read it you just want to talk in the rate voice of course i do it's wonderful i didn't know i had the talent yeah so um you know Lenny will take where he's gonna be on what's that thing where you um where you can uh pay celebrities to give endorsements or talk like uh that thing like how a bunch of our friends
are on it it's patreon no um it's like the one where you can have celebrities like give you like a birthday greeting uh i don't know what it is i've had that done for me though yeah but you know time you can you can do the rate voice on that whatever rate whatever rate voice for pay if the price is right i'll do anything all right so on that note uh where can people find you i know you you gave that output like uh uh i know uh you got a social media yeah i mean it's it's really
i only for that the only do instagram it's just my name Lenny lashley on instagram uh we didn't you have you can go on and all that stuff too or i have one that i do it's kind of pretty much dormant i check it every now and again i'm not all over it or whatever you know and i mean so if you really want to figure out what's going on a kind of a weekly basis or whatever with me or or you know up to date with shows or whatever it's pretty much my personal page okay uh you got the info on the
the record and stuff on that like for yeah i've been posting i've been posting about that i mean i've probably make a more recent more a more current one now anyway just to give people uh hey this is the you know final push for it and and finite and uh you know and and that i'll i'll have details about how to to re re re re enlighten people about kind it's pretty basic grassroots kind of thing basically
re-mailing me send me 13 bucks and when i have the record in hand i'll get it out to you or whatever you know and uh i will i will buy two off you one for me and one two giveaway to patreon subscribers um so look for some contest i have some contests for the patreon subscribers using my contests is the first one to give me their address get something i don't do very intricate contests hey give me your address oh i still got to give away the micolago book too i have that i totally
forgot about that i've been going full far i got a signed uh patreon a sign book for patreon subscriber so maybe i'll just make it a uh a double down contest where you get both things or something i don't know i'm gonna get a patreon if you want to figure that out patreon.com size big truth i'm gonna give you a clue give him give me a box not your real address folks don't worry about me you just gotta worry about me selling your shit out the Lenny
and he come come talk to you give me your real address all right but anything else before we wrap up here it's already been two hours dude i didn't we we go in with no agenda and we just get on some bullshit because we have fun together with brothers anyway but i mean i don't want to go home now i do have to pee again because my prostate is is in bad shape but other than that i mean i threw up in a bread bag so no i just want to thank you all as always for having me like i said i
mean i i appreciate the fact that beyond our friendship and brotherhood or whatever you you're one of the few people that supports me in the in the endeavors like that and i appreciate it no no that's why i was like dude come on talk about the new record get it you can you can listen to it now wherever you download a stream stuff and uh make sure you buy a vinyl copy so you can have an appreciation of the record as a whole and uh and it's only gonna be around for a couple more
weeks yeah better get on that shit and i should mention the guy that that there is a little bit of collectible or before we go out we would like to make sure that i think that the guy that did the art on this uh his name is Timmy tanker from main a guy that has done some designs in a very very talented guy so i feel very fortunate that he uh blessed blessed me with the talents for this record record our artwork yeah hey actually i got to i wanted to ask you about this your the shirt
designs like you've given me a couple recently do you keep those impressive you do just do short runs of those this one uh the idea was to do a shorter run to to be kind of an incentive for people to do that but i mean like the one with your bike on it and all that's that was a very so that one was hard for me to do even working with at the time when i was because uh to do the 10 colors that were involved in that it was going to be in it yeah it was going to be uh there's a limited
a minimal motor of like 288 shirts or whatever that i'll sit on for a long time before i sell all that i mean everybody that i know that rides motorcycles would ever be really into it maybe even hangs i'm here or whatever but as far as they're moving or whatever 240 that's a lot of shirts whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah so i mean if you're on tour and stuff it's like not but like but i mean both of the both of those uh designs i really love them both of those designs come from guys
that were from the Philippines or whatever that that uh i must uh must know me through some people or whatever and asked and and i looked through this stuff and loved so yeah i'd love to be able to have us full surplus and be able to do it but you know like just keeping up with shirts orders here it's just a bit of an undertaking what are filling orders and getting them out and then making sure you have the right sizes and remind me when we get off this i'm going to talk to you about the
merch company i have for the podcast oh cool and uh because it takes all that out of you oh yeah and then you can do dumb things like travel months i love the idea yeah if you need a lend you a shi pillow maybe we'll do something exclusive on the on the on the on the podcast you can add me on your pillow maybe all right uh just keep keep a keep a lot we got a lot of good episodes coming up the hiatus is over i'm gonna be flooding you motherfuckers with a bunch of good content and uh go get
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