Progressive Covenantalism vs. Dispensationalism: The Real Issues (Ep 229)

How do progressive covenantalists understand Israel and the land promise?

In this episode of Bible Sojourner, Peter Goeman reviews comments from Stephen Wellum in a recent interview with Grant Castleberry. Peter interacts with the core claims of progressive Covenantalism and talks about many of the presuppositions involved.

The big questions in this discussion are these:

• How does progressive covenantalism understand the people of Israel?

• What happens to the Old Testament land promises?

• Does Christ’s role as the true Israel mean national Israel no longer has significance?

• Does typology fulfill earlier promises in a way that sets aside their specific details?

• What role should the New Testament and Old Testament play in shaping our hermeneutic?

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Video reviewed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4p3UKiZ1cc

Time Stamps

• 00:00 Introduction: Progressive Covenantalism, Israel, and the Land Promise
• 00:01:43 Setting the Stage: Grant Castleberry and Stephen Wellum
• 00:06:54 Wellum’s Summary of Dispensationalism
• 00:09:35 Peter’s Initial Response: A Fair Definition, but One Addition
• 00:11:50 Castleberry’s Experience with Older Dispensationalism
• 00:13:04 Why Those Older Views Are Not Essential to Dispensationalism
• 00:18:50 Why Wellum Rejects Dispensationalism
• 00:27:56 Are All God’s Promises Fulfilled in Christ in the Same Way?
• 00:33:31 Does Representation Erase Israel’s National Identity?
• 00:37:36 Is the Church “Spiritual Israel”? Romans 9 and Galatians 6
• 00:43:13 The Problem of New Testament Priority
• 00:45:27 Matthew 19, Acts 1, and Acts 3 on Israel’s Future
• 00:50:04 Wellum on the Land Promise and New Creation
• 00:53:49 Peter’s Response: The Presuppositions Behind That View
• 01:09:27 The Real Divide: Typology and Whether the Type Must Disappear

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