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to determine which stories are national news stories according to the legacy media and which are local news stories according to the legacy media. It's particularly true when it comes to national crime stories. Now, every crime story is, in its essence, a local story because every crime story involves the perpetrator and the victim. And all of that happens locally. So unless you can identify a broad national trend springing there from.
And basically, that local news story is the hook for a discussion of the broad national trend. No local story on its own should be a national story. But it's fascinating what kind of crime stories particularly are the ones that spark national discussions about, for example, race in America.
So according to Legacy Media, the only kinds of crime that ought to spark discussions of race in America are crimes where the alleged victim is black and the alleged suspect is white. Those are the only ones that you will ever hear about. Whether you're talking about George Floyd, whether you're talking about Daniel Penny, whether you're talking about.
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, whether you're talking about Michael Brown, anytime you have a racial conflagration, it is always On one side of the racial ledger, according to the legacy media, because, again, the narrative that the legacy media would push is the idea that America is a systemically racist place against black people.
And so the kind of crimes they like to cover are, of course, the ones where a white person, or in the case of George Zimmerman, a white Hispanic person, kills a person who is black. However, the reality is that unfortunately- On a proportionate level, it is far more common for young black men to kill people of other races than the other way around. Now, let's be real about this. Just statistically speaking, the vast majority of murders.
are intraracial, meaning that most black men who are murdered are murdered by black men. Most white men who are murdered are murdered by white men. I believe the only race in the United States for which it is not true that the plurality or majority of killings inside the race are committed by other members of the same race, are Asians. I believe that for Asian men, the preponderance of killers are outside the Asian race. However...
When it comes to interracial crime, which, again, the media like to use as a proxy for discussions about the evils of the state of race in the United States. There's only one type of story they like to track, and that, of course, is white on black crime. The reality, as I say, is that proportionately speaking, black on white crime is significantly more common.
And that is why I think it is worth noting the case of Carmelo Anthony, not the basketball star that would be spelled with a C. This is Carmelo Anthony with a K. This case arises from the murder of a young man, alleged murder of a young man named Austin Metcalf. So Austin Metcalf was a football player in Frisco, Texas, and he had a confrontation with the aforementioned Carmelo Anthony. Carmelo Anthony is black. Austin Metcalf was white.
And according to the police reports, there was some sort of confrontation inside an athletic tent. Basically, some tents had been put up at a football game. And Carmelo Anthony was not supposed to be in that tent. He was actually sitting in that tent. And the football players. for the opposing school were in the tent. And according to the police report, the-
White guy, Austin Metcalfe, went into the tent and said to Carmelo Anthony, you don't belong in here, at which point a confrontation ensued. Carmelo Anthony allegedly reached into his backpack, pulled out a knife and stabbed Austin Metcalfe to death in front of everybody else, then tried to run away and threw away the knife. Not only that, according to officer Eduardo Cortez, he says that.
He was the person who was assigned to bring the suspect, Carmelo Anthony, to the police vehicle and take him off to jail for his booking. He says, the individual that was pointed out to me was a black male wearing a gray hooded sweater and dark colored Nike pants. The suspect at this point was on the track on the north end. There was a chain link fence that separated me from the suspect. I gave the suspect instructions to keep his hands up in the air.
During this time, the suspect said verbally out loud, I was protecting myself. It should be noted I had not questioned him about the incident when he made that comment. I asked him if he had any weapons. He said no. I patted him down for weapons while we were walking along the fence. I did not locate any on his person. I instructed the male to continue walking along the fence. He complied toward an area where there was an opening in the fence that led off the track.
While walking him off the track, the suspect also said he put his hands on me. I then detained the suspect in handcuffs and had him sit on the ground. Another officer had arrived on scene at this time. I conducted another pat down of his person and searched his person after he gave me consent. No weapons located. While the suspect sat on the ground, I advised I had the alleged suspect. The suspect then responded and said, quote, I'm not alleged. I did it.
Hey, apparently, as they were walking to the squad car, the suspect was emotional and said he put his hands on me. I told him not to.
He said, I did not question the suspect about the incident while he was escorted to the patrol vehicle. So another officer named Alan Fisher talked to the brother of the victim. He said, I asked him what happened. He stated they were all sitting on the bleachers under a Memorial High School tent when another male who he did not know walked over and sat under the tent.
Apparently, this person then said Austin, the victim, told this male that since he'd not go to Memorial, he had to leave the tent. Austin, the male, went back and forth. Then Austin stood up and pushed the male to get him out of the tent.
At this point, during the time of arguing, the male was reaching around in the bag he had. This time, the male took out a knife and stabbed Austin and then left the scene. Now, again, this sounds like a confrontation that escalated to the point where Carmelo Anthony pulled a knife out of his backpack and then stabbed Austin Metcalf to death.
Now, the case presumably he's going to be making in court is that it was self-defense that he was in fear for his life because another student was pushing him. That's going to be a very difficult case to make. He had a knife in his backpack. He pulled out the knife. That is a deadly weapon. Pushing is not a deadly weapon.
But the sort of more sympathetic case to Carmelo Anthony would be that he was sitting there and somebody told him to leave, pushed him, he turned around, he stabbed him. And it was because he felt that he had to in order to defend himself.
OK, here's where it starts to get very dicey, not just in terms of the criminal case. It starts to get very dicey in terms of the GoFundMe that was then set up for Carmelo Anthony. So a GoFundMe was set up for Carmelo Anthony and it immediately raised hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Now, imagine a reverse scenario in which the races were reversed here and a GoFundMe was set up for the family. Would there be any doubt the media would be all over it talking about how terrible it would be for a white student who stabbed to death a black student after being pushed? to receive hundreds of thousands of dollars in GoFundMe money. Apparently the money was then used, according to the New York Post, for a wide variety of goodies.
According to the New York Post, Carmelo Anthony is holed up with his family at the pricey home inside the gated community of Richwoods in Frisco, Texas, after he was released from jail Monday on a reduced $250,000 bond for allegedly killing Austin Metcalf earlier this month. The home had a white Suburban, a black Acura and a third sedan in the driveway on Tuesday, according to the outlet. A neighbor said the family had just bought a new ride. He got a new car, the resident told the outlet.
Residents in the gated community were allegedly unaware the family was living at the home until Anthony was released on Monday. Another neighbor told the outlet that Anthony's family is not poor if they live in a gated community. It's unclear how long they've been living at the home. Again, this is all controversial stuff. We have to wait for all the facts to come out in the particular case. However, it is worthwhile noting that, again, the basic sort of
narrative that would be drawn if the races were reversed would be about systemic American races. You might even have a story about privileged white Americans beating up on black Americans. If in fact, this kid comes from a relatively well-off background, you're not going to get anything like the reverse. We have a series called Facts. That series goes through some of the facts that are relevant.
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You've been told that black Americans are being violently victimized by white Americans. White supremacy. White supremacist. White supremacist terrorism. White supremacy. White supremacy groups. White supremacy is waging war against us. Every major media story about interracial violence of the last 20 years. Transcription by CastingWords
But close enough. Whenever a black person is shot by a white person, the media are all over it. Joe Biden does press conferences and invites the victim to the White House. Benjamin Crump shows up on CNN and MSNBC to complain about the inherent victimhood of black existence in America.
go out in the streets to protest in the middle of June 2020. Joy Reid sets her hair on fire. Here is the statistical reality. White Americans are significantly more likely to be victimized by black Americans than black Americans are to be victimized by white Americans when it comes to violent crime.
Now, let's start with a simple fact. Nearly all crime is intraracial. White on white, black on black, Hispanic on Hispanic. The only group for which that is not true is Asian Americans. But when it comes to black versus white crimes, or white versus black, Black Americans are far more likely to be perps than victims. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics citing the National Crime Victimization Survey, in 2019, there were 562,550 interracial crimes concerning blacks and whites.
of those crimes featured a white perp and a black victim. 472,570 of those crimes featured a black perp and a white victim. In other words, 84% of violent interactions involving black and white people involved black people victims.
victimizing white people. That's not a statistical aberration. A common argument that you hear all the time is that, well, maybe the problem is that when white people attack black people, or when black people attack white people, that maybe not all of it is getting reported. Maybe it's a reporting problem. Well this is why murder is a useful statistic. because murder is always reported there's an actual dead body.
You can't hide behind dumb arguments about white crime being underreported or black crime being overreported when it comes to dead people. Every year, the number of whites killed by blacks exceeds by a factor of about two, the number of blacks killed by whites. Let's take 2019. According to FBI statistics, there were 3,299 white Americans murdered that year. 2,594 of them, 79%, were killed.
by white perpetrators. 566, 17% were killed by black perpetrators. Now, 2,906 black Americans were murdered that same year. 2,574 of them, 89% were killed by black perpetrators. 246, 8% were killed by white perpetrators. Compare those two numbers. 566 white Americans were killed by black Americans. Only 246 black Americans were killed by white Americans. Now, let's adjust for population size.
because it turns out there are a lot more white people in America than black people. So, generally, you'd expect to see if all the other factors were equal a lot more white-on-black crime than the opposite. There are about 235 million white Americans. There are about 47 million black Americans. This means...
that one out of every million white Americans killed a black person. By contrast, 12 out of every million black Americans killed a white person. The disparity between the stats is perfectly obvious. The reason that crime is currently wildly underpoliced in major Democratic areas is because the left will not acknowledge reality. Way better to pretend that the criminal justice system is discriminatory than to acknowledge the obvious truth, disproportionate crime among black populations.
It makes the problem worse, and the people who generally suffer are not white Americans. They are black Americans. According to Alan Beck of the Bureau of Justice Statistics, quote, 60%. White people were underrepresented among offenders in non-fatal violent crimes overall. 52%.
They accounted for 45% of offenders involved in aggravated assault and 31% of offenders involved in robbery. Black people were overrepresented among offenders in non-fatal violent crimes overall, 29% relative to their share of the U.S. population, 13%. Half of all offenders involved in robbery, 51%. A third involved in aggravated assault, 34%. More than a fifth involved in simple assault, 23%. And rape or sexual assault, 22%.
According to Pew Research Center, black men are the most likely to go to prison. there were 2 272 inmates per 100 000 black men in 2018 compared with 392 inmates per 100 000 white men in 2018 black americans represented 33 of the sentenced prison population nearly triple their 12 to 13 share
of the U.S. adult population. Whites accounted for 30% of prisoners, about half their share of the adult population. According to another study printed in the journal Science Advances, quote, lifetime risk of imprisonment for black males rose from more than one in five about 20% in 1986.
to nearly 1 in 2, about 49.6% in 2004, before falling to roughly 1 in 6, 16.2% in 2016. Even though the current number is way lower than the prior numbers, it's still way higher than ever recorded among white men. So why is this happening? Why disproportionate crime in the black community?
The single most obvious factor correlating with violent crime is lack of fathers in the home. According to the Institute for Family Studies, only 37% of black children are living in a home headed by their biological parents.
72% of black fathers have had a child out of wedlock. Studies show the number of fathers in a neighborhood can actually help alleviate the problem of lack of fathers directly in the home. There's a network effect, a neighborhood effect, but it's rare to find a black neighborhood with a lot of present fathers.
As a study from Harvard, Stanford, and the U.S. Census Bureau found, just 4.2% of black kids currently grow up in areas with a poverty rate below 10% and more than half of black fathers present. That compares to 63% of white kids.
Now, there are those who will argue that it's white racism that's causing the absence of black fathers. That's a weird argument given the fact that in 1960, when white racism was really a serious American problem, less than a quarter of black children were born to unwed mothers.
Today, that number is like 72%. So as racism in the United States plummeted, the rate of single motherhood in the black community went up. Blaming racism for the rise in single motherhood makes no sense, statistically speaking.
differential crime rates don't have anything to do with inborn racial differences this isn't actually about race it has to do with behavior when you incentivize father absence crime goes up when you fail to police crime crime goes up when you make excuses for black on white violence or pretend that the real problem of violent crime in America is white on black, crime goes up, particularly among the populations who are being ignored, black Americans.
Again, why is all of that relevant? The reason that all of that is relevant is because when you are talking about the sorts of narratives that the legacy media would... proclaim as important, those are the kinds of narratives that they will never talk about. And they are important because, again, if you actually wish to reduce, for example, interracial crime.
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She has made her bones lately by celebrating the murder of the... United Healthcare CEO was killed by Luigi Mangione. She's sort of a fanboy of Luigi Mangione because she thinks that he's good looking and she has a sort of a crush on him. She obviously has a screw loose. Here she was on Sean Hannity's show proclaiming her support for the violence. Simple question. Can you take a moral stand and condemn?
What I condemn is the violence of our system, and I would love for you to acknowledge that. I'm not asking you to condemn the system. Taylor. Do you condemn people that call for assassination? You're going to ask if I condemn Hamas next. This is crazy. I would love for you to acknowledge what I'm actually saying, Sean. And we seem to be talking past each other. I want to talk about the fact that half of all adults are delayed because of costs.
We need to talk about the 70% of Americans, by the way, believe that the insurance company practices are responsible in part for Thompson's death. These are signs of an unhealthy... You want to put a rationalization. I am saying... Anybody that wants to assassinate any innocent person is wrong. I don't care if it's a Democrat or Republican. or a father or a husband, and I speak, that is a simple truth that anyone with a heart would easily say on national TV that you're having a hard time with.
OK, so again, this is the left justifying violence on the basis of the politics. And this is the theme. And the running theme of today shows that depending on whom the violence is. directed at, and whom the violence, who perpetrates the violence. We can tell who the media will side with, whether they will ignore the story or whatever. Another great example of this, just this week, targeting a Democrat, by the way, not targeting a healthcare CEO.
So it turns out that the person who set fire to Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's residence on Sunday indicated that he was motivated by his views. on Israel and Gaza, according to the Washington Post, and believe that Josh Shapiro needed to stop the killing of Palestinians. Now, Josh Shapiro is the governor of Pennsylvania. He's not the president of the United States. He has zero plenary power over foreign policy of the United States, even if you were to agree with this guy.
But the reason that the media aren't playing this up as an act of politically motivated attempted murder is because much of the media agrees with this guy. Imagine if this were a right wing or Trump supporter who had decided to try and kill Josh Shapiro. That would be a narrative for the rest of the year, minimum. You would never hear the end of it. It would be right-wing violence being bred by the podcast sphere in order to target people like Josh Shapiro.
But because the person who decided to try and kill Josh Shapiro and his family is apparently a psychotic left winger. who hates Shapiro because Shapiro is a Jew and too pro-Israel for his life. The media are not going to talk about the problem of radical anti-Israel feeling leading to violence, despite the fact that very often in the past year or so has led to violence.
And certain types of violence are not to be discussed, to be ignored, or to be downplayed. That is also true with regard to illegal immigrant crime. So yesterday, the White House, in an attempt to push back on the narrative that is being pushed by the legacy media, that the people who are being deported from the United States are all innocent and wonderful and all the rest, and the administration doesn't care about Americans. They put forth an angel mom. That angel mom's name is Patty Morin.
She's the mother of a woman brutally slain by an illegal immigrant named Victor Antonio Martinez Hernandez as she was exercising on a Maryland trail. As according to DailyWire.com, Mary Margaret Olihan reporting, the 23-year-old murderer was arrested in June in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and charged with first-degree murder and first-degree rape in Rachel Morin's death.
And here is what the angel mom had to say. Again, this receives almost zero legacy media coverage because they treated it as an irrelevant story. To have a senator from Maryland. who didn't even acknowledge or barely acknowledge my daughter and the brutal death that she endured, leaving her five children without a mother. now a grandbaby without a grandmother so that he can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador to bring back someone that's not even an American citizen.
Why does that person have more right than I do, or my daughter, or my grandchildren? I don't understand this. OK, for the legacy media, this was not worthy of coverage because, again, an illegal immigrant murdering an American is not worthy of coverage. It is heavy coverage when an illegal immigrant with. a pretty significant violent history apparently, is deported. Even if the due process concerns are a real concern, the level of sympathy that is being put forward by the media.
And the attempt to sanctify Kilma Abrego Garcia stands in stark contrast to the way that they are treating people like Patty Morin, whose daughter was beat to death with rock. The person she is referring to there is, of course, Senator Chris Van Hollen. Van Hollen headed down to El Salvador to try and visit the prison at which illegal immigrants are being held, deported illegal immigrants.
Chris Van Hollen said they won't let me talk with the deported man. He went down there to apparently make a show of his sympathy for this wonderful deported man. We'll get to the details on the deported man in a moment. So I asked the vice president if I could meet with Mr. Abrego Garcia. And he said, well, you need to make earlier provisions to go visit.
Seacott. I said I'm not interested at this moment in taking a tour of Seacott. I just want to meet with Mr. Abrego Garcia. He said he was not able to make that happen. So I asked him if I could get on the phone. either video phone or just a phone, and talk to Mr. Abrego Garcia. He said he could not arrange that. He said maybe if the American embassy were to ask, maybe that could happen.
So much sympathy for Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Now, again, if you want to protest, lack of due process, you should be standing in front of the courts. You should be standing in front of the White House, flying down to El Salvador to show sympathy for a man who, according to the UK Daily Mail, is violently accused by his own wife of beating her up multiple times.
Bad look for Democrats. But again, that's the sort of stuff that gets brushed under the rug in service of a larger narrative. Apparently, according to the Daily Mail, Abrogo Garcia, 29, was deported from Maryland to El Salvador by the Trump administration over connections to MS-13. His wife accused her husband of violently beating her multiple times in a 2021 court filing exclusively obtained by the Daily Mail.
In November 2020, he hit her with his work boots. In August 2020, he hit her in the eye, causing her to get a black eye, according to her petition. That same day, Abrego Garcia started driving quickly, scaring his wife, as their one-year-old was in the backseat.
She said she was afraid to be close to him. In May 2021, after an argument at a gas station, the Salvadoran migrant punched and scratched his wife, leaving me bleeding. Remember, this is a person who was pitched by the media as Marilyn Father. Marilyn Father. Sounds like it sounds like a wonderful, wonderful person.
Tennessee Highway Patrol caught the same Abrego Garcia in 2022, driving without a license and suspected him of trafficking the seven people inside. When they called Joe Biden's FBI because he was on the terror watch list, the FBI told them to photograph everybody and let them go.
Sounds like a wonderful person. So glad that Democrats have decided precisely where to place their sympathies. What kinds of crime are worthy of reporting on and which kinds of crime are not worthy of reporting on. And it is precisely for this reason.
that because Democrats have picked some of the worst people in humanity to spend their empathy and sympathy on, Americans are likely to ignore some of the due process concerns about, for example, this person, because it's a totally unsympathetic victim. So Chris Van Hollen, again, down in El Salvador, he says that according to the El Salvadoran vice president,
The reason that this guy is being held there is because Trump is paying. The point that Van Hollen is making is that the Trump administration has claimed they no longer have control over whether Abrego Garcia comes back to the United States for one final hearing before he's deported permanently. He's saying that's not true. And his answer was that the Trump administration is paying El Salvador, the government of El Salvador. to keep him at Seacott.
Again, multiple things can be true at once. One can be that the due process concerns that are being raised by the courts are legitimate concerns and the Trump administration should deal with them. The other is that Democrats have politically decided to spend their empathy and sympathy on some of the worst people in humanity, truly. and to ignore particular types of crime that don't fit the thing they are attempting to push.
Now, speaking of the due process concerns, yesterday, Judge James Bosberg, you'll remember him from the hearings where he suggested that planes of migrants from Venezuela needed to be turned around midair, and then they were not. And the Trump administration claimed, well, we did keep some planes on the ground. Other planes were already in the air. There was nothing we could do. It was an oral order. It wasn't a written order and all the rest.
Now, Boatsburg says he's going to launch proceedings to determine whether any Trump administration officials defied his order not to remove those Venezuelan migrants from the country. Now, this is kind of a weird filing by Bozberg in the sense that the Supreme Court has already decided that the Trump administration can use the Alien Enemies Act in order to deport people.
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And second of all, the Supreme Court has also decided that this case was filed in the wrong place. It shouldn't have been filed in Washington, D.C. It should have been filed in the place closest to El Salvador, which is actually at a federal court on the southern border. Nonetheless, Bosberg is now trying to suggest that he is going to hold in contempt members of the Department of Justice for not listening to his judicial orders.
Democrats, of course, are celebrating all of this because they're saying it just underscores the unwillingness of the Trump administration to follow the law. Attorney General Pam Bondi fought back against Bosbrook yesterday. Here's what she had to say. And Will, he came in on an emergency basis on a Saturday.
with very, very short notice, if any, to our attorney to run in the courtroom. You know, and this has been a pattern with these liberal judges. You just spoke about that. It's been a pattern with what they've been doing. This judge had no right to do that. They're meddling in foreign affairs. They're meddling in our government. And the question should be why is a judge trying to protect terrorists who have invaded our country?
over American citizens. Okay, so again, that's going to be the angle from the Trump administration. And it isn't a terrible angle, specifically because Democrats picked the exact wrong people to defend. And meanwhile, the State Department continues to do good work in terms of deporting many of the worst people in the United States.
The Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, joined us online yesterday to discuss all of this, to talk about what the State Department has been doing. Not only has the State Department been deporting people who... come to the United States on things like student visas.
and lie about their actual belief systems and what they are here to do. But also the State Department yesterday shut down a branch of the State Department that is specifically designed very often to target American information that the left doesn't particularly like. Here's my interview with Secretary Rubio. Joining us online, Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Secretary Rubio, thanks so much for joining the show. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for having me on.
So let's talk about this major move that you just made at the State Department, getting rid of- A big chunk of the censorship bureaucracy that had been created. and pushed a while back, but then exacerbated over the course of the last few years, hidden. What's the story with what you are doing over at the State Department to get rid of the body formerly known as the Global Engagement Center?
Yeah, I think you have to understand the history behind it. It's real brief. You know, they started it by saying, you know, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, all these terrible groups are radicalizing people online. We should do something about it. And, you know, back when they came up with that 12 years ago, whatever it was, people are like, you know, whatever makes sense. And then it metastasized and it's like, oh, there's foreign interference in our elections. We need to start going after that.
Well, then by 2020, it became a movement to go after voices inside of American politics and begin to label people. And they put a guy in charge. who basically was going around saying Trump speaks just like these foreign terrorists, his supporters speak just like these foreign terrorists. So now you have an individual running a State Department entity. that was labeling American speech by Americans as foreign interference.
And then really the kicker was not only were they doing all that formally from the State Department, but they were taking State Department money and they were giving it to these third party groups who were supposed to be like independent, you know, verified arbiters of what's true and what isn't, what's good and what's bad. And these groups were deliberately targeting, I believe you were one of the ones they targeted, I think the Federalists, began putting labels on people.
Now, you may say, OK, well, what's the importance of label? Well, that's not just the issue here. The issue is not only did they put labels on people, that was then used to go to social media companies. It was used to go to outlets and say, you have to deplatform these people or you have to cut back on how much. views they're getting. You have to go after them. And that's in silence. So in essence, it metastasized and the metamorphosis
into a government-run entity that was targeting political speech in America, labeling it disinformation, and silencing it, all paid for by the American taxpayers directly and indirectly. And that ends. So what happened when we took over, right before we took over, they got rid of this Global Engagement Center. They renamed it and moved it somewhere else. But, you know, renaming something doesn't change it. You still leave the thing around.
So we've undertaken, you know, 12 weeks of looking, how do we reorganize this whole thing? How do we get rid of it? And that's what we're announcing today is we're taking the whole thing down. And it's about $50 million. I mean, it's not a small amount of money. And we're not going to be in the business of doing this anymore. In fact, we're going to be in the business of promoting free speech in America and around the world as a core American value.
And that really is what we're going to be about right now. And we're also going to go back and look at, you know, as an accountability project, all of the instances in which this was used as a weapon.
against American political voices. And the reason why that's important is not just because of accountability, it's to make sure it never happens again. You document these things so that someone in the future, when they get some bright idea like this, realize... why we shouldn't do it because this is what it turns into.
And Secretary Rubio, it's a really good object lesson in what happens with some of these government agencies, which start off decades ago with the right purposes and then gradually are infiltrated by people with a. significant political partisan agenda, who then proceed to weaponize these institutions against Americans. We've seen this in USAID. Obviously, we see this here with the GEC turned into another sort of body that was then hidden inside these agencies.
And when people like President Trump talk about the deep state, this is the kind of stuff that he's talking about. Yeah, so USAID is another great example. Humanitarian aid. It was created for development and humanitarian aid.
Where it really went off the rails is when humanitarian aid and development aid was turned into how do we infuse domestic political priorities into what we fund around the world. So when it became a domestic political priority to take on... you know transgender rights now all of a sudden you've got programs by americans couched as humanitarian or development aid in other countries around the world in essence they injected domestic political considerations
into foreign aid. And the result is, you know, that has to be rolled back. So it's another example. We're going to continue to do humanitarian aid. What we're not going to do is use humanitarian aid to spread a domestic ideological movement globally. You know, Secretary Rubio, obviously, this is a big move by the State Department. You make a lot of moves over at the State Department that are different than your predecessors. That includes moves to...
Get out of the United States. People who are terror supporters, not just people who say bad things, but people who are actual terror supporters act in ways that are conducive to actual terror groups. I wanted to give you a moment to sort of explain the approach that the State Department is taking in taking a look at, for example.
student visa holders and what what are the standards that are being used to determine whether somebody should stay in the united states or should go because obviously opponents of the administration are arguing it's violations of free speech people have the ability to say what they want That's not an argument that the administration is actually arguing with. The administration is not trying to crack down on free speech. You're trying to actually stop something else.
Yeah, well, let's start with the baseline. Okay, no one is entitled to a student visa to enter the United States. No one. It's not a constitutional right. It's not a law. Every day, consular officers on the ground in face-to-face interviews. are denying people visas for all kinds of reasons.
because we think you're going to overstay, because we think your family member is a member of a drug ring, whatever it may be. We deny visas every day all over the world. No one's entitled to a visa. Let's start with that. Because I hear some of this reporting out there, like if somehow...
You're allowed to have a visa unless we can come up with a reason why you shouldn't have one. That's not true. The burden of proof is the other way. Now, let's say you go to a window somewhere in the world and say, I want to go to the United States to study at a university. And as part of that interview, it comes out, you think Hamas is actually a good group.
we probably would not let you in. I would hope we wouldn't let you in. Okay. But let's say we don't ask you that question and you get into the U.S. on a student visa and all of a sudden it becomes obvious you think Hamas is a good group. Well, then we should revoke your visa. In essence, if we would have denied, if we'd learned things about you once you're here.
that would have caused us to deny you a visa when you were overseas, that's grounds for revocation. It is not in the national interest of the United States. It's not in our foreign policy interest. It's not in our national security interest to invite people onto our university campus.
who are not just going to go there to study physics or engineering but who are also going to go there to foment movements that support who are committed to the destruction of the united states and the killing and the raping and the kidnapping of innocent civilians not just in israel but anywhere they can get their hands on them that's not in our national interest
So we have a right to deny visas before you get here, and we have a right to revoke them if we believe that your presence in our country undermines our national interest, our national security, and our foreign policy. And that's what we intend to do. Now, listen, there are other student visas that are being canceled that have nothing to do with us, by the way. And that has to do with someone, for example, who is here on a student visa and has a DUI.
And I don't know. That's not us. That's DHS. But I don't know if people realize if you commit a crime while you're in the U.S., that's an automatic grounds for revoking your visa. And no one was ever doing it. They weren't doing it. They weren't cross-referencing the system.
Now they're starting to do that. So that's the majority of these. But we have identified. I can't tell you the exact number because it's static and it's constantly moving. But when someone is presented to me and it's clear that this person is a supporter of a foreign terrorist organization. We're going to remove them from the country. You're not going to be here. It's just that simple. What a stupid thing. What a ridiculous thing.
to invite people in your country so they can be part of these movements that are terrorizing fellow students, tearing up campuses, shutting down campuses. We have campuses in America that couldn't even operate for weeks. People couldn't go to class. Are we crazy? What other country in the world would allow this? We shouldn't allow it.
Secretary Rubio, I think that the controversy that's arisen over, for example, the detention of Mahmoud Khalil, who is one of these students at Columbia University, who has. a green card, but who was also engaged in protest activities that violated the law, who obviously was sympathizing openly with terror attacks by Hamas and all the rest of this.
that the sort of controversy here there's a common thread to the opposition to the trump administration on this stuff which is as you mentioned this bizarre idea that people are somehow owed entry to the united states i think that ties in very strongly
to what's going on with this Salvadoran migrant who's now been deported to El Salvador. The administration has taken a legal position that basically now that he's in Salvadoran custody, that it's up to the Salvadorans whether to return this person.
to the United States or not for further due process concerns. But that's really not the case that's being made by opponents of the administration. Many of the opponents of the administration are making a more significant case, which is the idea that basically, if you get into the United States, you are somehow owed. a permanent status in the United States. And you're seeing this across the board, ranging from the Trump administration's moves.
to get rid of temporary protected status for people who have entered en masse under the Biden administration, to the resistance to DHS or the State Department making moves with regard to the tens of millions, possibly, of illegal immigrants who have been brought into the country by the Biden administration. There's this bizarre supposition that. Everyone on Earth is somehow owed passage to the United States and permanent membership in our society.
Yeah. And I think it explains to you why we have the immigration crisis that we had. And it was the belief they would all say, we believe we should have immigration laws, of course. But if you get into the United States, you should be allowed to stay.
If you make it here illegally, no matter how you got here, then you should be allowed to stay. I think that that mindset that's being revealed in these cases... tell you how you get 12, 13, 14, 20 million people entering the country unlawfully and illegally over the last few years because of this mindset that, yeah, we have immigration laws, but we don't really mean it.
Once you get in, you should be allowed to stay here indefinitely. And we have some sort of obligation to accommodate you here in the country. That's how you create this mindset that led to that crisis. And people know it. It's all incentive-based. People believed under Joe Biden, rightfully they believed, if I could just get across the border, I'm going to get to stay.
And in 90-something percent of the cases, they were absolutely right. And that's why more people kept coming. There's a reason why no one's coming now. You know one of the problems I'm facing right now with countries in Central America and the Western Hemisphere? U-turn.
A lot of people were headed here. They realized Trump was serious. They made a U-turn. And now these countries are complaining, oh, they're stuck in my country. Well, you facilitated their transit for years. Now they're stuck with them. as a result of it but that's actually happening why because the incentives are no longer to come the incentives are not to come it's been successful it's the most secure border we've had
in my lifetime. I mean, if you just think about it, and it's not just because there are people there, it's because people aren't coming anymore because they know that the president is serious about enforcing our immigration law.
Well, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, really appreciate your time. Thanks for what you're doing inside the State Department to get rid of shadow organizations designed to crack down on free speech, as well as to move people out of the United States who actually don't like America very much. Secretary of State Rubio, thanks so much for stopping by. Meanwhile, the Dow Jones industrial average dropped pretty significantly yesterday. It was set to open.
significantly lower today as well. There's a lot of dyspepsia in the markets over the Trump tariff war, obviously. This was also prompted not only by the Trump administration's announcement that it was going to bar the export of particular chips to China from NVIDIA, which has been sinking NVIDIA stock.
But also, Jerome Powell yesterday warned of challenging scenarios facing the Federal Reserve. He's saying essentially that the tariff war is likely to drive up inflation, so it makes it harder for him to drop the interest rate. And he said he saw a strong likelihood that consumers would see higher prices and higher unemployment as a result of President Trump's tariff wars. Here was Jerome Powell yesterday, the head of the Federal Reserve.
Tariffs are highly likely to generate at least a temporary rise in inflation. The inflationary effects could also be more persistent. Avoiding that outcome will depend on the size of the effects, on how long it takes for them to pass through fully to prices, and ultimately on keeping longer-term inflation expectations well anchored.
Pell then added, you would worry the process will take some years that the inflationary process might be extended. When you think about supply disruptions, that's the kind of thing that can take time to resolve. It can lead to what would have been a one-time inflation shock to be extended, perhaps more persistent. That means that it's unlikely that he's going to lower the interest rates.
Powell also added that the federal debt right now isn't at an unsustainable level. Theoretically, we can get out of it. But he said it's certainly on an unsustainable path. So further spending, further sales of bonds in order to fund our national debt, that's probably not a good idea. US federal debt is on an unsustainable path. It's not at an unsustainable level.
And no one really knows how much further we can go. Other countries over time have gone much farther, but we're now running very large deficits at full employment. And this is a situation that we very much need to address. Sooner or later we'll have to, and sooner is better than later. President Trump decided that the best
Solution here would be to attack Jerome Powell. He's not going to change his economic policies. He says the European Central Bank is expected to cut interest rates for the seventh time. And yet, quote, too late. Jerome Powell of the Fed was always too late and wrong. Yesterday issued a report, which was another and typical complete mess. Oil prices are down, groceries are down, the USA is getting rich on tariffs.
Too Late should have lowered interest rates like the ECB long ago, but he certainly should lower them now. Powell's termination cannot come fast enough. Naturally, the stock market was like, dude. And so the stock market dropped on the news that President Trump was going to ignore the sort of warnings that Powell is giving out about the economy. The question is whether Powell learned his lesson or whether Trump is right and he's too late.
I think the answer is Powell learned his lesson, right? It was Jerome Powell who spent. a year, saying that inflation was transitory, and then it turned out it was not transitory at all. And the lesson he learned from that is that when you screw up the supply chains, inflation is likely to be a persistent feature of the economy. World trade wars are likely to lead to persistent inflation in the economy. That's exactly what he is saying right now.
Meanwhile, the US-China decoupling is arriving, according to the World Trade Organization. The WTO anticipates trade between the U.S. and China will screech to a halt this year. Trade of merchandise between the two countries will drop by 80%, a drop that would have topped 90% without the White House's recent exemption for smartphones and other tech goods.
The total volume of goods traded around the world is expected to contract by 0.2% this year. That is an abrupt turnaround from a near 3% increase last year. And the WTO is anticipating that the trade slowdown is going to spill over into weaker global growth, about 0.6 percentage points below its initial forecast. So what is President Trump trying to do here? That's sort of the big question. What is the end goal?
Well, there is something that has been called the Mar-a-Lago Accords, proposed by the chairman of the White House Council on Economic Advisors, a man named Stephen Morin. He outlined that idea in a 41-page essay. It was titled A User's Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System. It was according to finance.yahoo. He's a Harvard-trained economist. And basically, he proposes what he calls the Mar-a-Lago Accords.
He says the deep unhappiness with the prevailing economic order is rooted in persistent overvaluation of the dollar and asymmetric trade conditions. His basic idea is that everybody should show up at Mar-a-Lago, all these various heads in various countries. and rejigger the entire global trading system so as to please the United States. Marin wrote, President Trump views tariffs as generating negotiating leverage for making deals.
It's easier to imagine that after a series of punitive tariffs, trading partners like Europe and China become more receptive to some manner of currency accord in exchange for reduction of tariffs. To lower the value of the U.S. currency, Moran said U.S. partners could sell dollars in their possession. What's the goal of devaluing the U.S. currency? Presumably, the goal would be to more easily raise debt.
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That is sort of the economic goal here. But there may be a broader goal. And here is the question for the Trump administration. It's totally not clear at this point. what the Trump administration approach is going to be to global politics. Now, President Trump is a utilitarian, as I've said many times. He lives in the world of reality. That means he tends to pick fruit off the tree of policy.
Meaning he tries to find the best policy. He uses that. Then he finds the next best policy and he uses that. There's no kind of thoroughgoing gestalt to the Trump administration. There are people who try to weave a gestalt around President Trump. who tried to suggest that there is a thorough Trump philosophy of life and of administration that is going to be applied.
And I see no evidence of that. It's much more sort of grab bag politics with President Trump, which definitely has its upsides and it also has its downsides. It means that there's not a ton of predictability. It also means he's unlikely to stick with plans that don't work. But some of the people who are attempting to sort of weave a Trumpian philosophy around President Trump.
There you would see, you know, a debate inside the administration. That debate inside the administration is taking the form of, on one side, J.D. Vance, Steve Whitcoff. David Sachs. On the other side of that divide would be presumably Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio, Mike Waltz. And the question there is one that David Sachs, I think, expressed really, really well on the All In podcast the other day.
So the case that Sacks makes, and again, David is a brilliant guy. I think he's wrong on a lot of this, but he's quite brilliant. He says that the Trump agenda is basically to reverse. the attitude of the United States toward everything from immigration to foreign policy. A consensus that he says was built in the 1990s. Now, I think that he's right on immigration. I think he's wrong on all the rest. But here is what he is saying Trumpism is really all about.
Number two, we'd have open flows of trade and capital. So basically the unfettered free trade agenda. And then number three, the third leg of it was Pax Americana. We deploy American troops all over the world to defend this consensus because they'd be greeted as liberators, not occupiers. I think all three pillars have been refuted. And the person who has represented the shift in this consensus to, I'd say, a new agenda.
Economic nationalism and geopolitical nationalism is Donald Trump. When you have a bipartisan consensus... that included both Bush Republicans and Clinton Democrats around these three pillars of globalism. And then I'd say that country turns against that. That's not gonna be a smooth process. That is gonna be potentially a violent process. It's gonna be a disruptive process.
OK, so what are the three pillars of globalism that he is talking about? So he suggests three. One is open borders. Totally agree. That has been rejected, not just by the United States. It's been rejected all over the West, which is why you're seeing the rise of populist anti-immigration parties.
And that's totally justifiable. The second is free trade. He says, well, there was a great consensus about free trade and that has fallen on its face. Free trade is bad. Well, actually, free trade is quite good. The question is why we let China into the club. And so the debate that's happening inside the administration is whether free trade itself is the bad or whether free trade with China is the bad.
And it's totally unclear which side of that ledger President Trump comes down on at this point. He seems to really like tariffs. Again, there are people like Peter Navarro. There are people like Howard Lutnick. There are people like David Sacks, presumably, who are very much in favor of curbing free trade capital and all the rest of it. That would be a really dire thing for the American economy. The American economy.
is the most powerful economy on planet Earth, specifically because we have been oriented toward freedom of commerce. Free trade has been true for in terms of freedom of commerce has been true for legitimately a century in the United States. And we are the dominant global power economically because of exactly this. The idea that free trade needs to be thrown out because it's, quote unquote, been debunked. I think that's a just wrong statement on its face. And then finally, Pax Americana.
So here the idea is that America puts troops all over the world. defend the consensus because they'd be greeted as liberators. Well, no, actually, the Pax Americana is not based on the idea that American troops will always be greeted as liberators. The Pax Americana is based on the idea that if we don't fill the gap, somebody we don't like will. It has nothing to do with the feelings of the people who are on the ground.
That was the mistake that Bush made with his sort of Wilsonian foreign policy, the idea that we had to be greeted as liberators. It was all about the permission of the people who we were going in and dealing with, as opposed to America should pursue her own national interest. And that national interest. is actually deeply entangled with America remaining the global hegemon.
But what does this speak of? If we are rejecting open borders, free trade, Pax Americana, again, I think everyone agrees, no open borders, everyone. Okay, but free trade impacts Americana. Let's say we reject those things. What does the world then look like? What the world looks like is America retreating from the world. It looks like America...
basically saying screw it to policing the world's oceans, for example, in the Red Sea. Here you saw that represented by J.D. Vance in that open signal thread that got revealed by Jeffrey Goldberg, where he was actively arguing who cares if the Red Sea gets shut down. They're members of the Department of Defense who have been stacked in by allies of the vice president who are very much in favor of the idea that it doesn't matter if Taiwan gets taken over by China or if the Middle East.
is beleaguered by Iran or whether Russia takes over not only Ukraine, but other parts of Eastern Europe, that that really makes very little difference at all to the United States, that America ought to withdraw from its place as the leading power on planet Earth.
And instead, we should sort of speed run the end of American empire. We should try to reshore as much as humanly possible. If prices go up, well, you weren't here for the cheap TVs anyway. And if you crater the global economy, it won't have any dire effects for American citizens. I think that's totally wrongheaded. I actually don't think that's where President Trump is. I don't think President Trump wants to speed run the end of American power on the globe.
President Trump has said over and over and over again that he's a peace through strength guy. So if there are people who are attempting to sort of defeat the peace through strength idea with the idea of an American withdrawal, which sounds, frankly, just like Barack Obama. Totally like Barack Obama. It's a multilateral world.
We need we need people like China just needs to be more responsible player. But even if they're not, does it really matter if the United States is involved in that? Iran can be brought into the family of nations so we can withdraw from these particular areas. Russia, we need a reset button. I'm struggling to see the difference between some of the foreign policies proposed by the new neo-isolationist sort of right and Barack Obama's foreign policy. They look exactly the same to me.
I can't tell the difference between them, but just in terms of actual practical policy. coming to a head over the president's Iran policy. So the president has been oriented since 2015. in a very anti-Iran direction for good reason. Iran has spread terrorism all over the Middle East. Iran is threatening global oil supply. Iran obviously has attempted to assassinate President Trump himself.
So one of the big debates is what should be done with the Iranian nuclear program? Now, the reality is that right now. Basically, a single sortie would take out the Iranian nuclear program. And Iran does not have the capacity to generate any sort of serious conflict that would affect the United States in the Middle East. What are they going to do, hit Hawaii?
And the reality is that Iran's proxies have been devastated. Iran has never been more vulnerable than it is right now. If Iran gained a nuclear weapon, that immediately turns around. Suddenly, Iran is a threat to pretty much everybody, including the Saudis, including the UAE, including Israel, including Europe, by the way.
That is why the Trump administration has expressed over and over and over that Iran shouldn't get a nuclear weapon. But the approach that they are now apparently taking is a very Obama-esque approach. We played you earlier this week, Steve Whitcoff, the absolutely befuddled negotiator on behalf of the United States, suggesting that Iran should be allowed to keep a certain level of enriched uranium, which is exactly what Barack Obama was arguing.
And now, apparently, according to Axios, there's open debate inside the administration in which people are taking sides along the lines that have already suggested. One camp, according to Axios, unofficially led by Vice President Vance, believes a diplomatic solution is both preferable and possible, and that the United States should be ready to make compromises in order to make it happen. Vance is highly involved in the Iran policy discussions. This camp also includes Steve Whitcoff,
Now, again, it's unclear where Pete Hegseth actually falls along these lines. Certainly many of the people have been staffed under DOD, underneath Hegseth. are people who are sympathetic to sort of the Vance Whitcoff position. It also gets outside support from MAGA influencer and Trump whisperer, Tucker Carlson. So first of all, if Tucker Carlson is giving you your foreign policy advice, All right. I mean, that is a choice. That is a choice.
By the way, culminating today in a New York Times leak is something that used to happen all the time where the Obama administration would get. some sort of information on a potential Israeli military action, and then it would end up on the front page of The New York Times the next day. Now, apparently, that's happening in the Trump administration as well. And there's a piece titled Trump waved off Israeli strike after divisions merged in his administration.
Israel had planned to strike Iranian nuclear sites as soon as next month, but was waived off by President Trump in recent weeks in favor of negotiating a deal with Tehran to limit its nuclear program. Trump made his decision after months of internal debate over whether to pursue diplomacy or support Israel in seeking to set back Iran's ability to build a bomb at a time when Iran has been weakened militarily and economically.
Almost all the plans would have required U.S. help not just to defend Israel from Iranian retaliation, but to ensure that an Israeli attack was successful, making the United States a central part of the attack itself. Again, this is according to, I am sure, Department of Defense sources. who are working aligned with the sort of Vance philosophy of the administration. This article, by the way, is devastating for intelligence. I mean, it lays out like actual details.
The article talks about what exactly Israel was going to do. There's the possibility, apparently, of a commando raid. Quote, initially at the behest of Mr. Netanyahu, senior Israeli officials updated their American counterparts on a plan that would have combined an Israeli commando raid on underground nuclear sites of the bombing campaign, an effort the Israelis hoped would involve American aircraft.
Israeli military officials said the commando operation would not be ready until October. Netanyahu wanted to accelerate it. Israeli officials began shifting to a proposal for an extended bombing campaign that would have required American assistance, according to officials briefed on the plan. Some American officials were potentially open to it. That would have included General Michael Carilla, the head of U.S. CENTCOM, and Mike Walls, the national security advisor.
And then, of course, I mean, it's pretty clear who's leaking this, honestly. And so the question for the Trump administration and for President Trump is whether he actually wants internal divisions being leaked to Barack Reved at Axios and whether he wants him being leaked to The New York Times.
And so the question becomes, what exactly, again, is the philosophy of this administration if they're looking for an easy off ramp with Iran that basically allows Iran a clear pathway to a nuclear bomb in the belief, as David Pak says, that the Pax Americana must end. Like, what does the future look like? Because frankly, I don't think that that is what President Trump historically has supported. That's not what he told me on this show.
He has always said that he's a peace through strength president. So what exactly is the philosophy? That is the great debate. inside this administration again it's taking a head over Iran but it's not just about Iran it's also about world trade it's about America's position in the world it's about whether America wishes to remain a global leader or whether America wishes to recede into a sort of multinational hodgepodge, a sort of lobster pot of grasping for power.
That is a very dangerous game. And the fact that it's being pushed by very prominent voices inside the administration is a problem. It also, by the way, means less success for the United States. And we should point this out. If there is an economic downturn, I can't say this enough. If there's an economic downturn, if the world situation gets more chaotic, not less, under President Trump, Alexander Ocasio-Cortez will be the next president of the United States.
It will be someone from the left. It will not be the extended run that Republicans are hoping for, that I am hoping for. It is not going to be a conservative century if, in fact, the Trump agenda fails or if the Trump agenda just turns into the Obama agenda on foreign policy and trade. If that is what happens, if somehow President Trump's own campaign promises are thwarted by people inside his administration who do not actually agree with those campaign promises.
We have a different view of foreign policy, a different view of global economics. If that is what ends up happening here, the result is not going to be. a Republican century, or even a Republican decade. The result is going to be a backlash that comes in the form of a populist left progressive who comes in and wipes away everything that conservatives actually like and want.
That is the danger. This is a high stakes game. And so I think it's worthwhile having a conversation over what exactly the world vision, the global policy of the administration is at this point, because frankly. And those mixed signals are leading to confusion, not just in markets, but also in terms of foreign policy. And that confusion is likely to lead to violence. Confusion in foreign policy. Predictability in foreign policy as in markets leads to more quiet, calm, peace, growth.
chaos, as in not like the madman theory of politics where you don't know if he's going to punch you or what, but a sort of chaotic view of foreign policy. in which the default position is American withdrawal, is not likely to lead to a more peaceful world. It's likely to lead to precisely the opposite.
And by the way, I should point out here that when we talk about Department of Defense officials who are oriented against the peace through strength idea, the reality is the Pentagon has now been hit with a series of leaks. And those leaks are coming in large part from people who are very much aligned with the sort of isolationist wing.
of the Republican Party. Dan Caldwell, senior advisor to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. Darren Selvnick, Defense Department Deputy Chief of Staff, were escorted out of the Pentagon by security officers and had their building access suspended pending further investigation. You know, it'll be fascinating to see how all of this plays out. And the future of America rests on it.
And meanwhile, the hottest story of the day is that Elon Musk has a messy personal life. Now, of course, we know that already. That, of course, is no shock. A long article in the Wall Street Journal. basically featuring Ashley Sinclair, who I have to say, there are no heroes in this story. There are just no heroes in this story. Everybody is acting horribly and badly and it's ugly and seamy and gross. I have long been an advocate for traditional marriage and children within it.
I know this is like a wildly controversial position in today's world. I think it's bad not to do that. I think it's actively bad not to do that. And if you're the girl who took Elon Musk's check. in order to get pregnant, and now you're disappointed with the situation, don't make you a hero. And if you're Elon Musk and you're impregnating everything in sight, that also does not make you a hero.
Those are villainous actions, all of them. They are all bad. And I can say that even though, again, I like many of the people involved on a personal level. The actions themselves are sinful and wrong. We ought to, at the very least, recognize sin for sin.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Ashley Sinclair wanted to prove Elon Musk was the father of her newborn baby. But to ask the billionaire to take a paternity test, the right wing social media influencer had to go through Musk's longtime fixer, Jared Birchall. Sinclair told Birchall, quote, I don't want my son to feel like he's a secret.
Birch will offer Sinclair some advice. His boss was a very big-hearted, kind, and generous person, he said, but must get a different side. When a mother of his child goes the legal route, that always, always leads to a worse outcome for that woman than what it would have been otherwise. Birchall's job is running Musk's family office.
But behind the scenes, he also manages the financial and privacy deals Musk wants for the women raising the world's richest man's babies. Musk has at least 14 children, four different women, including pop musician Grimes and Siobhan Zillis, an executive at his brain computer company, Neuralink.
Multiple sources say they believe the true number of Musk's children is much higher than publicly known, which, I mean, you would assume that that's the case, given the fact that he is basically swearing people to silence and giving them a lot of money to keep their mouth closed. Apparently.
Elon Musk offered Ashley Sinclair $15 million and $100,000 a month in exchange for her silence about the child, whom they named Romulus. Similar agreements have been negotiated with other mothers of Musk's children, Birchall told Sinclair. By the way, she could have kept silent.
She could have and just taken the money. And, you know, that probably wouldn't better for the kid is the truth, because now the kid is going to be at the center of every controversy. Also, there was a clue that it was Elon Musk's kid. The kid's name is Romulus. So there's that. The fight with Sinclair over the terms of the deal for their baby has been going on, as Musk has assumed, one of the most influential roles in the United States government, of course.
Musk's baby-making project is relevant to his ambitions for NASA. He said on X, making people multiplanetary is critical to ensuring the long-term survival of humanity and all life as we know it. According to the Wall Street Journal, he is driven to correct the historic moment by helping seed the earth with more human beings of high intelligence, according to people familiar with the matter.
Again, not into it, not into the eugenic nature of that, not into the idea that you shouldn't be a father to your children. And again, there are some of these kids who Elon's actually a really good father to, right? I mean, he's actually taking little X around with him pretty much everywhere. He's very connected to that kid.
But you should be like that with all of your kids, not just some of your kids. And that also means you should be connected to the mother of your kids. Because how kids behave in their future relationships between man and woman is modeled on how their parents behave with one another. If you don't know who daddy is because mommy's taking a big check to have been impregnated with you, that is not exactly a great way to grow up.
Again, all this stuff is a curiosity to most people, but it is part of a broader collapse in traditional morality that is terrible for the West. There are two questions when it comes to the collapse of the West with regard to birth rates. One is... How do you have more babies? And the other is, how's that connected with marriage? And the West's answer to that for literally as long as the West has been the West has been those two things are the same. It's the same question.
That the way that you have more babies is to get married and then have more babies. Because babies need a father and women need a husband to support them and protect them. And the fact that that is now sort of seen as passe is quite bad.
Because guess what? Elon Musk can make that happen for himself. He's the world's richest man. But number one, it's not good for the kids. Number two, it's not good for their moms. And number three, it's not good for the people who are going to model themselves on this sort of behavior. That predates traditional religion. It's also mirrored by people like Andrew Tate, which has impregnated as many women as possible. It does not make the world a better place.
It makes the world a much worse place. Young men who have no father figure in their life because daddy was off sleeping around with a bunch of women, impregnating them and leaving, those kids don't end up particularly well in the long run or even the mid run or even the short run. That is not the way to build a civilization. The show continues in a moment. We'll get into Democrats who are somehow finding ways to blow it, despite the fact that there is emerging a target rich environment.
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