Hollywood Shuffle

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So yesterday we talked about the death of Gene Hackman, the actor ninety five found in his house.

I have a question for you, guys.

Yeah, have people, just when you randomly interact with people, have they brought up the Gene Hackman death to you in a way of like.

What is going on with that death? Have y'all had any of that?

Yes, a lot of conspiracy, a lot of people wondering how it went down the way it did. People have theories who died first? Was their suicide? Did nobody feed the dog all that?

I had the same security guard stop me at two different points in the evening last night at the mav game to.

Talk more about it.

They were so there's like, I just keep bumping into people that are very wrapped up in this controversy.

I have not interacted with anyone outside of you guys in the last twenty four hours. And my wife didn't know who he is.

So what about it?

The landfill in Melissa was nobody talking about it.

It wasn't really you know, there's more like can we get this brush into the thing?

Yeah the compactor?

Yeah, into the compactor. Yeah, I'm not sure how it works.

Yeah, So what point is Obviously you're gonna get some commentary from other people in that world, including Christina's got the audio for us. Here, here's Bill Murray.

He was a tough not Geene Hackman, but he was really good, and he was really difficult. Older great actors do not give young directors much of a chance.

They just they're really rough on im.

And Gene was really rough on West and I used to I used to kind of step in there and just.

Try to defend my friend.

I watched him once do like twenty five takes where he did it perfectly with an actor who kept blowing it every single time big long camera moved and painting.

All this stuff.

Geane would do it perfectly, the other actor would blow it, and I'd go, like I was watching Quinn, No wonder this guy, this guy wants to throttle people, and then he sort of gave just a sort of an ordinary performance and the other actor got it right, and I thought Jeene was gonna throw the guy off the village ledge of the building.

Cluk.

So he was a great one.

Okay, that is the weirdest compliment ever. He complimented him, but he basically said he is a tremendous a hole.

He's a hard ass.

And there's an irony to that because there are so many people that have worked with Bill Murray that say he's impossible to work with. So there's an irony to that. So I couldn't help I haven't seen ten and bombs in a long time. I couldn't help it sit there and go man, it was Luke Wilson that was screwing it up right.

Yeah.

I was sitting there wondering what scene, what it meant?

And I remember some scenes with Luke Wilson on the roof, but I don't remember scenes with Luke Wilson on the roof with Hackman. I'd have to go back and watch it again. Maybe Christina remembers, uh, but.

I was.

I definitely want to go back and watch tenn and baumbs now and see if I can find the moment specifically that he's talking about.

I had never heard that about Gene Hackman. I didn't know that he was one of those guys that you hear that about a lot of people. And Bill Burry was painting the picture that a lot of the elite actors are like that, yeah, get it right.

But you know, I could see that be prepared, get it right now. Costner.

Kevin Costner goes on the Rich Eisen Show out there in la And when I watched this for the first time, I immediately thought that Kevin Costner was lying.

I don't think Kevin Costner has ever said a truthful thing in his life, because there's a.

Part of it where he kind of pauses at the end. You'll hear I've trimmed this down a little bit, a little over a minute, but here's Kevin Costner telling a story from Gene Hackman on The Unstoppables.

You know, people ask all the time, you know, who's the best actor, who's the biggest star, who's the blah blah blah. But I would say probably Jane was the best actor. I think Sean Connery is the biggest star I'd ever worked with and that's the Untouchable. Yeah, and A. This is too long of a story, but I had one with Gene. When this scene came up. We had been doing every scene to that point. Around a desk. I said to the directors, look, I don't I don't

It's here.

And I hated to do that, but I just said it's here, and I don't need all of our scenes here.

It's here. Sure, So we.

Did it, and at one point there was saying, well, what's Gene going to do? And I said, Gene, we'll figure out what to do because he's really good. So I do the scene and we do it all day and it's the scene now that's in the movie. And I remember as I was walking out to my car, Jane was getting in and goes, hey, we'll talk to you, and I walked over and goes, look, man, if you ever do that in front of me again. I'm just gonna the way you disrespect, I'm just gonna try. That's

What do you say?

He looked at me and he said, hey, uh, you know, it's been I went through a divorce. I've been doing a lot of kind of questionable movies lately. When I saw you fighting for what you wanted today, he said, it reminded me of how I used to feel about acting. He says, it was good what you did, and then he just got in his car and drove off.

All right, it's amazing, I went and uh, I looked, because so the movie he's talking about is No Way Out? What he's talking about the Intouchable? Is you talking about Sean Connery movie? Because I think the only movie that Costner did with Hackman is No Way Out?

Unless I'm forgetting, you're correct.

And I do remember a lot of scenes in No Way Out where it's in the Senator's office and so he is sitting behind a desk and all this kind of stuff. But the the act the director was Roger Donaldson, which is not some name I recall for a bunch of films or whatever. But if you go back to nineteen eighty seven, that's you know, he's not the monster that he would be four or five years later by the time Dances.

With Wolves came out, or three or four years later.

So it's interesting that he was that convicted and bull headed around no because like Untouchables was big for him. No Way Out, but like I think Bull Durham came after that, right, I think Filed Dreams came after that. In my mind, No Way Out came out before those movies. So it's kind of interesting that he always was that way.

Yeah, that's it, you know. I think it's great that he had a passion for it.

You yeah, I mean he directed film, so you know you got to be that Yeah, guess you know.

I saw dead Zel talking about him too, and they were in Crimson Tied Together and the interview the Quest, and this was a long time ago. The interview was something like, Sozel was that intimidating to do that movie with Gene Hackman, you know, and and he's like, man, I'm He's basically I'm paraphrasey. He was basically I'm Denzel, like I'm in prime Denzel tea. And it was interesting the way he talked about it was like a basketball player,

It's palpable, Okay, I just want to say it takes a special kind of person to be asked about Gene Hackman to make the whole thing about yourself.

That's true, that's true. But but keep in mind that's an.

Old I was kidd to say with Bill Murray, these are old clips.

They're old, they are Yeah, he didn't just.

Know that heart.

Bill Murray and Kevin cost didn't run out yesterday to be on talk shows to talk about Gene Hackman within twenty four hours of his controversial I thought that big of a deal, right, No, a big deal.

I've seen them. I've seen these before. Yeah, they're recirculated.

So yeah, all right, let's do this man. Let's talk a little sports next. There was a game last night. Jerry shocked people in Indianapolis. There's lots of sports to get to. And we'll do it next right here from the Chalk Talk Casino and Resort and Durant.

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