Post-It Tells All

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Guess What. I'm joined by Jared again this sweek.

It's Me?

Are you so to me? Chackica, Jared and I will never be able to say the words it's me without thinking of Rob Schneider in The Hot Check.

The Hot Check?

Yeah. I love that movie so much.

Yeah, it's a great one. Rachel mcaddams before she was Rachel mcaddams. Yeah, I know, was that before Me and Girls?

I think it may have been like six months before, yeah, six months before.

So crazy.

Yeah.

I remember thinking she was so hot in that movie, and then who would have thought, like, oh, that is Rachel McAdams. That's similar to the movie Almost Time with I forget the actor's name, but Bill Nye plays the father where the guy can go and go back in time and it's right around the time his dad dies. I don't but Margot Robbie's in it before she was Marco Robbins.

About Time, I was like, I don't know a movie called that, Okay, yeah, about Time? And I remember watching About Time and being like that might be the prettiest, but have everything in my entire life.

Oh my god, my god, it's so funny because Rachel McAdams is also in that movie and she plays his love injury. Yeah, but but she it's hotter well in that movie, in that movie specifically, But then you have an argument like who is prettier like Margot, Robbie or Ray McAdams.

If I understand, there's really there, they're all in there in that movie.

Yeah, well, of course pretty. But in that movie, hold on, I gotta finish my Rachel McAdams intentionally doesn't look as good because I think so, Yeah, they spress.

Her down to look like more like momish exactly.

And and also I forget, god, I forget the guy's name. But you know, let's be honest, it's not like he's ugly, but like she's way out of his leag So if it was Rachel McAdams and him movie, no, it's no. Jim Sturge is beautiful. I forget he's still.

We have nothing to say about this episode. We'll get well, we'll get to in a second, but now I just want to say I thought that should I look it up?

Yeah, he's redhead. He's a really good actor. He was in Star Wars Glacier. I mean, yep, there he is, or dom Donald. No, it's Domin Domino. Yeah, it's spelled. They just had it there. It is doumb Hall. He's not a bad looking guy by any French, but you know, I mean Rachel, you know.

Ch Rich McAdams is Jared's like great movie.

By the way, holy Ship, you haven't seen them. I remember watching that and I was like, who is this blonde? I know, I thought the same thing.

I was like, am I a lesbian right now?

I was like, listen, I love to because I'm so much, but bro go with her read of your mind anyway?

Also, could I say that in the Hot Chick where is where this conversation started, I thought that Anna Faris was so pretty.

I just want to look like.

I think Anna Faris is pretty underrated.

Yeah.

Have you ever seen the movie Waiting where it's with her and Ryan Reynolds. They play they work in a restaurant, justin Long's in. It came out in two thousand and five. It's an old one never really took off.

The movies are the two of them?

Uh that and Just Friends? But I think she well, she also wears Eyeliner, which actually knows is my I love dude.

Jared loves Island, black Eyelander all the way around.

And I think Ana fars is very pretty.

Anyway anyway, okay, well you know who else is very pretty?

All Joan and all her men very pretty, very nice man.

This mentell all was a celebration of the season, which I am glad they did it this way if they were going to do a men tell all, I'm glad that the structure of the show was this and they didn't try to insert some sort of drama between the guys and instead just celebrating the friendships that were gathered like that. Having said that they should just never have had a mental.

Well okay, but do you know why they had a mentell all?

In my theory, even though it probably costs them a bit, I don't know what the ratio is for, like what's worth it for them.

I'm sure ABC needed a certain set amount of episodes and what the structure of the show is set in a way that you know it's it's it's kind of like, well, of course we'll do a mental all.

No, Okay, my theory is this they did it? Okay, Well, yeah, you're right, they're always gonna do it. I don't think there's been a season with that one besides Paradise seasons, which sometimes people are requesting Paradise seasons over something like that.

It's done some reunions, some.

Sort of catchups.

Now, an episode like this you would think would be paired with a regular episode just because like we needed more, especially since it was an hour and a half episode.

This was an hour and a half. It wasn't too yeah, it felt like to them, No.

Actually it felt short to me. It's so weird.

So normally I would think that they would tack on like thirty minutes of real drama from like Fantasy Suites or The Final Two or something, and then they would put mentel all at the end of that. This week, I think they're like, okay, well, the plan is to air it Wednesday after the election. Nobody knows whether or not the results will be here by then. People are not thinking about the Golden Bachelorette this week, so it's perfect timing to throw a mentell.

All on a Wednesday night.

Nobody needs to see it, but it's there as light, fluffy content if they want it, and if if it even gets to air.

I agree, Yeah, they probably should have just took a week off Election week. A lot's going on high.

Yeah, just you know, George, Sorry, she's just talking to me. Do you think they will I think that in a regular week, at a regular time, they would have just like done a back to back episode. They're just like, no, no, it's okay, Well the store.

I agree, you know what I'm talking about. Yes, of course they didn't want to put anything consequential into this episode because they knew exactly not a lot of people are probably gonna watch it. Yeh, Because it's the day after election. No one's thinking about the Golden Bachelorette, even

That's funny.

All right, So the episode itself has absolutely zero drama, which is as wonderful the least dramatic read and.

Is it wonderful?

No, this is wonderful.

I think it's wonderful because they didn't even try because they were like, oh, we don't have any so let's not try. So it's really could have just been called like the celebration of the men.

You were bored, and I actually thought it was sweet. I wasn't particularly bored, but I will tell you this, it's very sweet.

Qualify episodes based on like, is this a scroll episode? Like where I'm on my phone scrolling or trying to do something else while watching, which, of course, you guys, this is my job to recap.

I don't do that, but like it's my compulsion. Do I wish I would be doing that? You know what I mean? Now this case, because it was a.

Tell all, I was like, and Jared was already previewing to me that it was slow or inconsequential. I was like, okay, well then I'm going to Christmas decorate during this, so I did okay. And I do have to say that, like, if I were to sit down and just dedicate my time fully to this episode would have been like, oh no, but I was nice to have in the background as like a podcast. That's what it was to me, a podcast.

This is a great example as to why I'm not a TV guy because The Bachelor, Right, obviously, it's given us more in our lives than we could possibly have ever asked for. It's one of the most successful shows of all time, longest running shows. I mean, it's it's, you know, a place in TV history cannot be understated, the Bachelor franchise. But like every show goes through this where there's just episodes where it's like, why am I watching this for an hour and a half? Why am

Every episode is consequent Ozarks. I thought that was too slow to continue?

Is it Ozark or Ozark Ozark?

Anyway?

Ozark one of the widely considered one of the greatest shows. But like so many times, there's episodes I hear from people like, oh, you got to get through four episodes and then it gets really going. It's like, so you're telling me I got to dedicate almost five hours of my life.

Will tell me that what's the show that with Catherine O'Hara.

Oh, I get the uh sure, like, oh no, I'm oh it, Shit's creak.

Yeah, shit's creak.

People tell me that I have to watch the whole first season it shit's creaked to start to like it.

At the beginning of season two?

What are we doing with our lives?

You know?

And I get that people do that, and it's a thing, and I respect it because I wish I could do.

It with some shows and some shows you don't.

And my retaliation point is that we love TV because we get so close to the characters.

We feel like we really know them so much more than a movie.

In an episode like this where mental all super sweet, no drama filler episode, we just want to see them. We just want to see more of their personality. And that's all we just.

That's fair, that's fair.

You don't like, you don't like, you don't need the Yeah, there's something you don't need, access personality.

I love character development, give me all of it.

I love character precise, but no, there's also a subtlety to character development that I really appreciate. Like in movies, you know, there's so much to be said in silent moments like one of the this I always uses an example. I'm sorry and going off track right now, but I not really if you get me on this podcast, I'm sorry, this is what we're going to talk about. But there's a scene in the party where I could talk about this.

It is great. I see it play in my head right now.

That like just everything in that moment, the tension just just oh god, it's so good.

Anyway, Okay, during the strip day, Jonathan says that he's never stripped before. It didn't we didn't believe him, and then they reasked the question here.

He has never done it, professor. Very funny, That was very funny.

We also find out that Jonathan has a girlfriend, which means that Jonathan is off of the Golden Bachelor list, which is disappointing to me as it seems as if Mark might also have a girlfriend. So to my two lead picks both have girlfriends.

Is there going to be a Golden Bachelor.

And they were casting for it in the commercials?

Oh? Then yes? Oh okay. Do you think that they should pick someone from Jones season or do they Do you think that they should pick.

Uh celebrity studcaster?

Yeah, like an old celebrity. I mean because listen, obviously I love the format of the show.

I think it needs a little pick me up.

I think it needs a little pick me up.

I think this might be a little pick when we might need it.

So, who do you haven't.

Done a celebrity stunt casting? In Forever? Jesse was the celebrity stunt casting.

So was Baldwin? Wasn't Baldwin one of the Baldwin brothers, right.

I have.

I thought he was. I was very young when his season came out.

And then there was the Prince that was kind of stunty, but Jesse was the celebrity stunt cast.

Yeah, I bet that there's an older celebrity who would be willing to do You definitely be down to do it.

Yeah.

They plugged Charles as possibly the next Bachelor, a Golden Bachelor. As they they call him out in the middle of the crowd. They have some you know stage moment where a fan says, Charles for Golden Bachelor.

If not, then my mom, I.

Know, it's so sweet. Do you do matter the mom?

Do you do you not think that Charles couldn't carry this show?

Do you?

Okay, let me tell you.

At first I thought this is wacky, this is the sweetest man.

And then but I was like, but he can't carry the show.

No, he can't carry the show.

And then I thought, who of this group do I actually want to watch more of? It? Is Charles and he is the most endearing person I've really ever come across, like the most so can.

You imagine twenty five older women? I guess when you Yeah, if.

You want a Golden bachelor that is just like you cannot stop watching it because he's just too cute and that's the guy, you know, Like, I don't know what kind of grand romance might come out of this.

I don't even know if he talks about how he wants he's ready to move on. Is this evil of me to say?

No, it's idealist?

Okay, that's what it is. It's me just being like.

You romantic, right, buddy, your soulmate.

Not evil, too romantic exactly.

All right, Well, it's just because he's just the way that he talks about his wife, you know, I mean, say with Mark and Mark. Actually, there was nothing. There was no huge Mark moments to me in this episode.

Except for precisely the post it note.

That he said that he gave to Jonathan saying that, like, you know, if I'm not around tomorrow, which he meant like if I don't get a rose.

Not obviously dying, Yes, just know that.

You're like a great man, and he like had listed like all these attributes that he admired from him.

Yeah, it's really sweet.

Can you would you do that if you were in the house with these men.

I'm trying to think of who I would do it.

I feel like Ben would do it to you.

He will do it for me. Ben, Relax, I'm not that great, very sweet, but I'm not deserving of this. You can write like you're okay, You're doing a good job, and then I'd be like, all right, thanks, I appreciate that. Yeah, Like, do you.

See yourself in thirty years softer in that way?

Yeah? It's interesting because I think there's areas in my life where I've become hardened, and then there are areas in my life where I've become softer. You know, I was actually thinking yesterday when I was feeding Hayden introspectively about you know, like, what how Hayden's going to view me as a as a dad? And you know, it's a weird thought. What type of man are you going to think I am? You know, I hope you think I'm a good man.

But you're wonderful, I was there. That's not wonderful. Lots of things, definitely, like the work. Well, you know, I can't say that working too much is a negative thing.

No, actually as well, but anyway, but that's an area where I think I've become softer in terms of thinking. You know, grandioso. It's with kids because it just puts you know, you start thinking about your place in life, not so much about your own being, but in terms of okay, well, I'm here in this world, and my most important thing is not just like living, but just being there for Dawson and Hayden, Like I want to live as long as possible, right, because I want to

Yeah.

Right, It's like, well, I want to live as long as possible because I want to do things and breathe and I appreciate life and I'm grateful for life, which all those things are true still, but now it's also shifted to be like, well, now I want to be here as long as possible because you know, I don't want, you know, Dawson to be fifteen and something happened and then he you know, kind of grows out without a dad, like I want to be there for him.

Yeah, exactly.

Like I think we've talked about this before, but I never really thought of like my own death as like an emotional thing. I never thought of like me getting in the car and like something bad happening.

Or you know, on a plan or whatnot.

You think about you your family.

Yeah, you're always thinking about like you're worried about their flight, not your own flight. And then being a parent, you think about your own flight, and then you think about your what you know why he's of transportation, but you know we all think of it.

Yeah, but it's like, oh my god, something happened to me.

Then you start like I start like, well up now thinking about how their life would be. Yeah, okay, well, yes we're all mushier with age and children.

So other thing I'd like to mention is.

You didn't see this part, but there's this one guy and he was a captain of a military ship Kim So he wrote this song is called the Mansion Men, and it's actually quite catchy. I'm like, this guy might have some musical talent. And on the show it was supposed to be kind of like an embarrassing moment for him. Yeah,

That's not true. My eye was half open.

And then finally we get to the end where we see the scenes from the next episode, the finale, the finale. Jared was away for this, and I feel like the biggest takeaway is that Jonas and seem that smiley.

She's definitely not smiley.

But her reaction, her facial expression looks a lot like what Gens did at her mantella whenever they would like preview Gen's reaction for like the next week.

What is the name of the guy she picked? Devin?

Yes, but look at that.

That shows you just how fleeting the Bachelor audience memory is.

Yeah, well there's just so many names. I remember his face, well, yeah, I remember that face. Joan's definitely not smiling. It's hard to tell if she's.

Trying to hold back exact be an actress.

Exactly or what's real? You know, if she's trying.

To I don't think she's a very good actress.

I mean, I guess we'll find out if she's super happy.

I don't know.

See, this is just my my feeling the entire time is that like her guy wasn't really there. I think that that Chock is the closest that she's gonna get there.

So you think that she's gonna break up with Chalk.

No, no, no no.

I think that she's gonna be with Chock. And then I think she's gonna get in real life and realize, like.

So they broke up after the show.

Yeah, yeah, oh, I definitely think.

Sorry, I definitely, I definitely think that she ends up with him. I just don't know what the status of their relationship is now.

If they end up together and then break up before or after, that would be bad, like, oh my goodness, gracious, grape balls.

Just but do you know it's worse just stay together married after four months of meeting each other.

That's bad. Don't get married and then divorced. Don't get married. But I don't know, I hope not. I mean, how long ago did they film? Like three months ago? Four months ago? I think it started in June, so like they probably ended in August, so you're talking about September October. It's been two months. I mean, this is all you know, this is all assumptions here, we're just speaking out of the out of our butts.

But look at us, where the opposite. We're the opposite. You didn't like me on the show, and then you love me in my life.

Look at that, and then so that.

Can just those flips, those flip flips can switch.

Yeah, of course can flip switches do flip It's correct. But yeah, I mean, listen, I hope she's with Chalk. I mean, I can't even I don't know what type of drama this final episode's going to bring, because it's like, is she even like, does anybody think she's gonna end up with guy? I know they saw that show. That preview, Guy was saying that I'm in love with you.

Oh yeah, yeah, he said, I'm ready to get engaged, like I would propose to you. Yeah, And it's not like the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my entire life. I've never seen two people so neutral about each other.

Yeah. So again, I hope that what I hope is that guy, with all due respect, good looking, seems very nice, he sing He sung the song, but eliminate guy.

He did sing this song and that was one of his glory moments.

I hope that the tension in the episode is not between who she picks, but rather if she ends up picking Chok because of the guilt that she feels from you know, her obviously past relationship. Yes, yes, so that would be far more interesting to me if there is this sense of guilt that she feels. I mean, I hope she doesn't feel this way. Obviously, I want Joan to be happy. I don't. I don't. I don't think that she's doing anything wrong. I don't think she's doing

Yeah, not that it would be very It would be a lot of sense for this part of the franchise.

Yeah, if I was in that predicament, I would think the exact same thing. And I'm sure my friends would tell me exactly what I would tell Joan, which is, you're not doing anything wrong. But it's hard to think.

That my ghost would say you're doing something wrong. I'm kidding.

I would not actually haunted the after life only for.

A few years. I'd haunt you like that, only.

For a few years. Okay, hopefully I don't. I mean, I hope I die before you. Well, statistically speaking, i'll die, yes, I guess. So is that so weird to think I'll die before you?

You'll see me die, Jared, that's the worst thing I've ever heard, could you know?

That's so sad.

That's so sad.

Hopefully many many, many many years from now.

And on that note, I'm gonna go cry.

No, don't cry.

I will see you guys next time, and Jared probably won't.

But until then, but you'll see Ben and Ben's better. So let's just all be honest, which I'm totally fine with. I'm fine being if Ben's an A minus. I'm fine being a B minus C plus.

Why where'd just get B plus? And I'm not gonna give my nicoles?

No? Ben six four, he's got four inches on me. I always have to say that, why are you comparing your looks right now?

I didn't think we were talking about that. I was talking about quality men.

You're both such high quality, well say, factable, lovable, kind hearted men.

Ben's a very respectable man. But I would always say like, because you know, I feel like Ben and I are certain similar, so similar in certain ways. And when we were on the show together, I remember just thinking like I got no shop being this guy, Like I'm trying to be as good as him and so, but he's got four inches on me. It's like over why would why would she ever pick me over him? It's just not happening.

The thing is with Ben on that season, people are so tired of her hearing this say this. But like when he did that sex talk with the kids, I was like, no one can beat this man.

Trust me. I was like, this, fing guy, you didn't see it.

You already been there, you saw it back on TV. You weren't on that date.

I was on that date.

You were on that date.

Yes, I was on that date. The sex talk with the kids.

I don't remember them showing you talk to the kids at all.

My big date was the week before the boxing.

Day you got you barely got any air.

No, they showed me and I had my black eye and was a fun date.

I'm sure you probably totally excelled in that too. Well already imagine like you would be so good at that. But the fact that like they showed Ben like he's like walking down.

Started walking down the aisle, I'm like, why did I not do this? And they had me go before Ben, So I'm like, damn it, can I do mine again? Please?

Do you think that they saved Ben for last knowing that he was just gonna kill it.

He's like a youth minister.

And they probably were like, Ben, you know, if you feel like you want to like walk up to you, yest, feel free to buddy, And they're like, Jared, stay up front, don't bot.

Oh good times. Now we're actually signing off, bye, guys.

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