On the beck Del Cast, the questions asked if movies have women in um, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef invest start changing it with the Bedel Cast. Hello and welcome to the Bechdel Cast. Hi, it's us again, it does. It's Caitlin and Jamie and we're here for a special
and short Thanksgiving minisode. So sorry if you're home and then, like, man, I wish I had content to consume instead of talking to my family, And you're probably right to feel that way. But we even even us content creators, toiling the content factory all day and freaking night, we gotta take a break, freaking rest man. So we're going to take this opportunity instead instead of doing heavy discourse, which you've come to know and love, we're gonna just say thanks to a
bunch of people. Yeah. So so these are yeah, people were thankful for we. You know, we don't recognize Thanksgiving because it's it's not a holiday that I observe personally. I will be watching Titanic on a loop on this day, but I will binge eat, yes, But I don't like thanks stands for I like what binge eating stands for is compartmentalizing pain. That's right. Where's that holiday? We could adjust Thanksgiving very easily to be anyways, So here are
some some people that were thankful for that's right. First and foremost, we would be remiss Aristotle. Aristotle a servato. He's been our producer from the beginning, from before we even started launching the episodes. He's been with us from day one, so he's in the entire world. Yes, he is the sweetest, he is the most patient, canonical, as far as I'm concerned, the only man. There's a few others, Okay, yes, Alfred Aristotle, and then we'll get to there's there are
a few men will recognize. But I want to say that it's it's not often that you, you know, you find a man who is so supportive of the message that we deliver here on the Becto cast of you know, gender equality and intersectional feminism and walk the goddamn walk and literally walks women to abortion clinics. So he's the he's the model after which all men should model themselves.
That's right. So Aristotle, thank you so much for all the time and hard work you've put into making sure this podcast is actually a podcast and not just a bunch of goofs and talking into a void. And and in a year where we've had a lot of changes in our not I mean, the show hasn't changed, but the behind the scenes of was crazy. So we're we're grateful that he's been with us the whole time and stays with us when we love him. That's right. And speaking of those changes, it's time for us to thank
our other producer, Sophie Lichtman. Yeah, Sophie came into our life this year and we have never turned back. We've never turned back, as I understand it. So she is our producer at How Stuff Works, our network, and as I understand it, she begged the powers that be to work on our show. Really yeah, she's like, put me on back toel cast, I want to work on that. She's like regretting it, but we're thankful she hasn't said that to our faces, and so you know, that's good.
That's great. So Sophie, thank you for keeping us organized and from being on top of everything, and you're the best. Next, we would like to thank another man, yawn, just kidding. One of the greats, Jack O'Brien, who brought us onto the House Stuff Works Network this year and was so supportive of our transition onto a network and the first time on a network. And yeah, and he's been a
fan from pretty early on. Oh yeah, I mean he was for almost I met Jack almost two years ago, and he's and and he contacted us originally because he was a fan of the show, and he was We're just bragging that people have been fans of the show is early with this episode. What is this for? Thankful?
We are just proving how cool we are. Would like to have extend or things too, truly, everyone at the hay Slots, What's Up family who we love so much, Miles Gray and as N a two time guest of the show for crying at all the hosts on the network who we know and love. If you Wadway, Danny for Nandez, sharene Robert Evans, Edgar mom Pless Here, Jackie's, Neil, Andy and Naomi. Check out all of their podcast if you haven't already. The Daily Zeitgeist, ethnically ambiguous, artific in culture,
Kings Behind the Bastards, Couples Therapy. Yeah, yeah, all of our all of our buds, buds that we're grateful to be part of the family. That's right. Also shouts out to some of the other folks. So you might have heard us mentioned be you know, you may not know, but Dan and Nick here at how Stuff Works. But again, sorry for thanking men Ge Whiz, but those are some of the good ones. Wonderful support and we are happy
to be here. We love it. We'd like to thank our guests, Yeah, any guests we've ever had on UM. Basically we make you do homework to be on this show. So to anyone who's you know, put the time in and contributed your valuable perspectives to the show, we thank you. I'd also like to especially shout out our live show guests who truly have to go the extra mile in
order to participate. So you will not have heard most of these episodes yet, but some recent live guests at Aaron Wack, Marshall Belski, Maggie may Fish, Daniel rad For Natalie McGill. Yeah, so we'd like to thank them in particular for for going way out of the way hell yeah to be there. And we're just very grateful to our guests for offering perspective and jokes and all that good ship. We love them very much so much and hope that you have found new faiths by listening to
them on the show. My mom always tells me that she looks up everyone we ever have as a guest and you know, sees what they're up to, watches their comedy videos if there's a stand up and yeah, so someone's doing it. My mom is in love with Demi? Did you eBay? Who is so that is? You know? Her main takeaway from literally my mom's main take I'm she's not on the list. And here's why she's not on the list, because her main takeaway from our shows that she loves punch Up the Jam and she loves
Demi and Meal. Those are her two favorite episodes. And she's just like, I just love Punch Up the Jam. I'm like, you know what, it's a good know, but that's not why I told you to listen in that. So anyways, my mom's a huge Punch Up the Jam fan. Good for to show that is not on this network. So thank you so much, mom, if you're not on
the list. I wanted to think any writers who have who have written about us, UH written articles or included us on lists of podcasts to love List, Culture and any podcast who have had one or both of us on his guests. We have a lot of fun doing that, you know, the people who give us more visibility, So so thank you so much for that appreciated. Rebecca Bols was one of our early a V Club advocates who wrote a lot about us and who was also a guest on our the Holiday episode. You should listen to
her podcast, Classroom Crush. Yes, indeed, absolutely love uh. We would like to thank Mike Caplan, who I saw last week. He's doing great. He wrote our theme song. Yeah, way way way back in the day. He's an excellent musician and addition to being a great comedian. That's right. And Katherine vos Krasinski, I hope I said that right. Thank you to her for performing our our theme song, um voice.
We all know we can messages all the time about how catchy and fun our theme song is and it's all Mike and Catherine, So check out the work of those very talented people. Absolutely uh. We would like to I'd like to thank people who have been helpful to us while we were touring. All the venues that we have performed at and that the various people, some of whom we're fans, who helped us set up shows. Um shout out to my cousin Tammy for putting us up for a night in d C. And we're still getting
used to touring with the show. So thank you to everyone who has attended a live show we hope you have time, And to everyone who who has made doing our live shows possible because toron Ain and Easy Tornin
Easy so yeah. Special thanks to the venues like Improv Boston and Camber to Massachusetts, Babies all Right in in Brooklyn, New York, Brown University, Good Good Comedy Theater in Philadelphia, Drafthouse Comedy Theater and Emissary in Washington, d C. So thanks to all those spaces, and oh and especial thanks to the Ruby in l A for giving us a
monthly live show. So it's monthly. Check us out on the second Saturday of every month at nine pm if you happen to live in l A, which probably statistically you don't write but if you do, don't miss our next live show there at the Ruby on December eight.
We're talking about Elf with special guest Marrow Wilson. So check that out, and this might be a good time to bring up the upcoming West Coast tour that we have because we're going to be in San Francisco, Portland, in Seattle in January, so we can we can shout that out. More details about that towards the end of this episode, and that reminds me. Thanks to all the
festivals who have had us. We've got New York Comedy Festival, Women in Comedy Festival, the Boston Comedy Arts Festival, and other people who run especially and yes, Catherine Leon who helped us with the New York Comedy Festival and who's a dear friend of mine, um Michelle Barbara and everyone at the Women in Comedy Festival. Thanks to you for all of your support. And hey, Jamie, let's take a quick break and then we'll be back to thank some
more people. Thanks. The longest acceptance speech truly sucked in a second, and we're back to give more thanks. It goes without saying finally, of course, we're thankful for you face so much. But in all series is to anyone who has ever listened giving us a review on iTunes that wasn't hates Men. One star dropped us a line on Facebook or Twitter, or emailed us or reached out or given us helpful critique which does help us improve
the show. Shared your thoughts, experiences, and especially to people who are also matrons, and yeah, that support is truly invaluable. Oh yeah, I lost my job earlier this year because the comedy venue that I was doing the programming for suddenly closed down and I was without an income. And if it weren't for the matron, I literally would have not bad things would have happened badly. So well, we were thankful for bad things not happening to caitly In.
So yes, very much. Thank you to the matrons who show their support. We have the best fans there, really, we do the most gracious and respectful, and we're always are so excited to meet you and like getting to talk to you and take pics and just talk about what brought you to the show, and it just it really we could wax poetic all damn day, but we're so grateful for you. Thank you for doing everything you do, and we hope to do this, you know, as long
as we can. That's right. Also, a big thanks to anyone who's made fan art for us, has like sent us fan mail or gifts, because we've gotten some awesome gifts of like mammel pins, We've gotten T shirts, we've gotten stickers, books, Mike's Hard Lemon to DVD DVDs. We've received a beautiful handmade cutting board. Yeah, everything is incredible. The fan art especially brings me such joy. Know, it's so adorable and wonderful. We highly if you, if you, if you were always down yes to us. What a
cool message this Thanksgiving? On this Thanksgiving speaking of capital is some Uh, this is a great point to mention that it's capitalist season again. Baby, isn't it always t heat? Anyways, your loved ones will be expecting items from you shortly, and what better item to pedal to them aggressively than an item that we made. Uh. This is my plug for our t public store where we just released for the You'll hear this on Thanksgiving and you'll be like, well,
isn't Black Friday tomorrow? Isn't cyber money the next Monday? Well, guess what I'm going to forget to release them? So they're all out now a lot of new designs. First of all, queer icon baby grinch. Uh, there's two different designs In one, Grinch is wearing heels and has nipple tassels. There's also a tamer design for those that can't I don't know fucking handle it. Um, there's what we're launching,
our non binary icon design. We have a strong female protagonists that's been out, but we have it in multiple colors. Are inbar go on men designs and a new design of Caitlin and myself. If you happen to need us on your body, which you do. There's two different examples of us passing the Backtel test on merch. Wonderful. What's all out now? Thanks to everyone who's already bought merch and supported the show that way. We love it when you you know where the photos keep doing it. We
love it so much. We love reposting those. So thank you to everyone who is spreading the word of the Backtel cast through your apparel. So thank you. Yes, we love you, dearly, thank you so much. I hope you're having a good holiday, and if you're not, I hope you get revenge on the person who made it not
good for you. And I always want to say that, like we get messages from fans brag chopped out the same thing they'll say things like this podcast has helped me get through a difficult time, or they'll say like this podcast has completely changed the way that I view movies and has made me a more critic cool consumer of media. Or they'll say something like, um, listening to your podcast empowered me to stand up for myself or to kind of speak out in the name of feminism
and female empowerment. So thank you to anyone who sent us a message like that, because that is why we do the show, to help people view media differently, and to empower people, and to entertain you hopefully too. Yes, and especially what's been valuable to me, and I think what always makes our show better is when our listeners
are able to educate us. And if there are issues on the show where sometimes you know, Caitlin, myself and sometimes our guests between the three of us were not able to fully understand a complicated Yeah, we definitely have blind spots, And I mean it's the never ending quest
to understand a little better and always be listening. And that certainly applies to our listeners who I've I mean, I've learned so much, mean even thinking about We talked about this a lot in our hundredth episode, but like how differently I view stuff than I did two years
ago when we started the show. I mean, I think about some of our early episodes where it's like the blind Spot are out sweet uh and and I'm sure you know ideally will feel that way about us right now in two years from right, So yes, learning from from all of yous has just been such a so wonderfu leasure. Yes, thank you so much. And I said this last year on our little Thanksgiving episode, but I
will say it again. I just want to say thanks to all the women, non binary, queer people of color, the filmmakers, comedians, writers and entertainers right yes, um, because some of my favorite example is the pop culture detective Jonathan McIntosh, who's making great video essays about toxic masculinity and the like in media and how we need to have conversations about it and reverse those bad trends and tropes.
But um, yeah, I just wanna say thanks to all the people who are making things and creating art and telling their stories. But I also I have to say thanks to all the people who funked up real bad and and made bad movies because it gives us things to talk about shots, shouts out to all the major fucos out there who are making bed stuffy, and also shout out to the occasional very good movie that we cover in the shop ye I mean yeah, And and to any of our male listeners, we also appreciate you.
And it's one of uh. One something that always sort of resonates with me when hearing from a male listener is that it, you know, just affects their worldview and makes some view media a little differently because you know it was made for you, and so understanding that that is perhaps not the movie is terrific. And indeed we appreciated we we we come down pretty hard on men
a lot, and we and we recognize that. But there are some good ones and I wanted to thank a few specific ones, but some some friends of mine, and this includes people of all genders. But um, j T, my best friend in the world, listens. He doesn't have to, but he does so. So thanks to JT for listening. Um, my good friends Maya, Martha and Kinney's uh and Jenny to looking in the last two have been guests on the show. Thanks to my mom and my brother Eric
for listening. My friends Justine and Dan, my friends Uh, Nolan, Alex and Jake all listen to the show. So there's some of those friends. And then of course thanks to my dear friend Sammy, who has recorded some episodes for us, who has been a guest on the She's the Man episode, and um they're also going on tour with us, yes, going on tour without and Sammy has given me a lot of technical advice on like editing and how to work this zoom machine that I bought to record our
some of our episodes on. So yes, thanks to all those people who were very near and dear to me. A few people, I'd like to thank my little brother who listens to every episode, and to his many female friends he's introduced the show too. I would like to thank the three female writers I pull from most frequently when UH working on this show. It would be Lindsay Ellis, Anita Sarkisian and Roxane Gay too, of whom have been
on the show. And I would like to I'd like to thank my boyfriend Dude, who listened to nine episodes. Your boyfriend is a very nice man and he's allowed I'm glad that you're with him. I regret to inform me, and he's allowed until he's not, and then he's out of there, shout out. The final person I would like to thank is you, Jamie. I want to thank you for being with me this whole time. I want to thank you for your perspective and your humor and everything
that you bring to the table. It's so valuable and wonderful. And I have so much fun doing this with you, and I hope we do it forever. I love you. I'm thankful for you too. I thankful for I mean thankful for truly art. We would like a gush about our friendship very and no, but it has changed my life, so shut up, okay. Anyways, it has changed my life and shaped it in a very positive way. And as we love eachild, we love each other and it's grass. Um and yeah, and and thank you for I love
your notes so many notes. I love it actually feel safe and thank you for making me feel very self conscious about your notes are Your notes are literally my safe space. I feel safest in the arms of your notes. Um. Yeah, I'm thankful for you. I'm thankful for how this show has, you know, changed stuff for us, and it's very grateful and we we love you, and if this is your first episode listening, you're psychotic. So thanks, yeah, thanks to Well,
we do have some brand new listeners. We've had some people who have been with us from the first episode, no matter where you came into the show. We appreciate you as listeners and we love you so much. Yes, Queen, Yes, Queen. As promised, we will plug our West Coast tour now, yes, hello, Hello. We're going to be in San Francisco on January talking about the Breakfast Club as a part of SF Sketch Fest. Um. Tickets are available for that now, so get them while
you can. We are then moving on off the coast to Portland, Oregon. We're literally stopping in wine country. Deal with it. Yes, sometimes we're Caucasian women and they have we have to drink some white wine at a vineyard. Who says why people don't have culture? Just kidding. We're also going to look at some trees, some redwood trees on the way. Very cool. Try not to be jealous of this, but we stare at trees and then we
so we'll be in Portland on January. We are talking about fight Club and we're going to be at Curious Comedy Theater. Yeah, so tickets are also online for that, So uh go to beac too cast dot com sash the live appearances tab for tickets. And then we're also going to be in Seattle for two shows back to back on the same night January. We're talking about The Little Mermaid on the first show and then Sleepless in Seattle. How appropriate? Literally, imagine how hard we thought about that
one really earning every center here. But the Little Mermaid that was that was like which I was literally I was like, are people and see how I'm gonna throw things at us? And were being like did you do that? Did you? Maybe they'll be people in Seattle. I've found her very nice. I've never been I've never been to your fund city fer Oh my god, I go brother Niles and Daphne comes and I love ros is the feminist icon. I'd like to thank Ross. I haven't seen
that show. I don't know who that is. She's the fun one anyways, that is problematic and that she's you know, I could I'm gonna start it has been up great Fraser feminist icon no is the name of the podcast. Okay, well that that's been our MANI Thanksgiving episode. Thanks, Oh my goodness. I would like to thank cats for one having eight nipples and two for being cute, cut a little critters to thank for Molina for ignoring me that time? Did he were too afraid to talk to him? Is
what happened? Um? Actually he ignored me and it broke my heart. Okay, I remember that happening differently. So thanks. Thanks for listening to this little mini app and thanks again to to all the people that have contributed to this show and made it what it is, and to our listeners and our fans and guests, and thank you behind the scene. Thank you, Thank you life, and have a great holiday, and you know, just keep it real. What No, that's you're right, I can't tap. That episode is over. Hi,