It Takes Two with Catherine Cohen and Pat Regan

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us on iTunes. Hey. The Bechtel Test, if you don't know what that is, is a media test created by cartoonist Alison Bechdel, and it requires that a piece of media, a movie perhaps, has two female identifying characters with names, they must speak to each other, and their conversation connot be about and yeah, do you think it'd be easy button? Most movies, a lot of them don't, anyway, So we use that as a as a way to kick off a conversation about women in movies, and we're gonna do

that again today. We're the same thing every freaking time, every fucking time. Over too funny, Jesus. Okay, So today we're featuring an iconic duo that we've never featured on this show before, and so it only seemed fitting that we bring in an iconic duo to cover it with us. Yes, yes, so without much further ado. Their panic, they're they're holding hands. Um. They are comedians and they are the host of the Seek Treatment podcasts on the Forever Dog Network. It's Katherine

Cohen and Pat Reagan. Oh my god, please only talking union the entire episode? Can I say? That's on? One day we were chatting with Catherine's abroad lover Sure Broad remember, but we were both face timing him, and I brought into apartment. She was facing him, so I started talking and he was like, Hey, you guys talk alike. He's like, you talk how she does. So you're reeling very strong. I think I have a guess, fresh mat it. If I tried to do like Australian accent, it comes out

as Japanese. I tried to do a British accent. It comes out as Midwestern, like I trying to do any accent. Besides like British or Southern. It sounds like a sim like scorging dort. Wait, you guys have never had to do it before. No, oh no we did. We had one for Debs. We had a duo for Black Panther was also there was a duo actually just made the South or fifth time. But did you say that you wanted to hear that. I wanted to hear the ones that we've brought in that iconic to her. But you

know what, No, you're the first. Canonically you're the first will reverse all the numbers and time. What's so crazy about time is that we though we experience it literally, Um, that's not how it exists. It's actually cyplical it Why is it so long? Time? I'm trying to move through some pain I'm experiencing, and it woc It's insane. I feel like I've been alive for a million years and I time I so long. But also what talks by this time is also so short, Like I'll be I'll

be kind of lying. They're looking at the ceiling all the time. I'm not even getting it sixteen hours later looking at me. Sometimes the day starts and we're like, it's already three. But thank you guys for having us as the point. Oh my god, you're so welcome. So we're talking to you about the movie. It takes two.

What is the both of your history your relationship with this it's American American actually big screen Steve Guttenberg, Wetton shirtless, Curciale halez new I have we have one question before we started, and we're gonna ask you guys this question, and you need answer honestly, and I don't look it up. How old do you think Ali is today? Right now? So I can answer? But isn't it crazy? I don't know.

Can I guess yes today today as we sit in this podcast studio, I would guess sixty three sixty eight years. That's more what I thought. But she didn't start doing like acting until she was like thirty. For me, broke am No, I would like to say, to bring it back to the point of the podcast. Um, thank you so much. It takes two. Now, Mary Kate and asturally raised me there, raised you to an extent. Yeah, okay, not only did they raised me, they invented me. Okay,

Holiday in the Sun, Passport to Paris. I thought, when I go on a vacation, I'm going to get kissed. It wouldn't be years later, ten years even before I did get kissed upon first to Paris. But I come to it takes two and this is sort of this was in theaters. Am I right? Yes? Se Gutenberg, who invented the print press, who invented jeans. She's like, I picture her like, she's amazing hair. She invented a certain kind of hair. She has credit for the most specific

mom hairstyle. Beautiful. My experience on the movie is that it taught me that I like sloppy Joes. So you grew up with this movie, Katherine, you saw it a bunch kind of thing. Okay, Pat, what about you? My relationship was I, like, I like one best friend. Growing up. We would have severatch movies and we would watch like Roman Mitchell's High School Union, or like It Takes Two recent episode of Ours. Yeah, totally great film. That movie. Literally, it's what I watched when I want a quite comedy.

Every single day I Watvie. So I watched that movie every single day. But that is such a specific vibe movie when you're just ready to quit. Yeah, but so we loved it Takes two. For some reason, I remember going to Blockbuster and getting it. There's just certain lines of it that I've always remembered, Like I've always remembered the part where the social workers going taking took away one of them and she runs into the office and

they're like, what do you want us to do? Lie down in front of the van, and she's like, I would have actually the funk down. Um, you have a crush on that adoption guy. I have a crushed on the main guy. I have a crush on the camp like Jim Teacher or whatever. And I have a crush on the abusive adoptive. It was. I wrote that down and then I looked I looked him up. I was like, oh, he was young when he did that. He's like twenty five years old. And that I was like, hello, you called,

I said, I was like, he's really young. I also was like the butt kisses the couple Like, I was like they you can tell that couple was like that, that duo just like it was a cracking up the crew on set and I got back the photo and like, oh, this isn't that great? But whatever? Um? But I was of love like Maryka and actually like obviously watchful hospital.

Then I watched like um on ABC Family there was Little Time No not that was but adventures no adventures, no no, no no, no stops up to be kind to so many shots because there was the Adventures of Mary Kay and Nashally too. What's that that was? Like? That might have been like a video we Save any Crime by Dinner Time? Yes, yes that was, yes, the Haunted episode where the beekeepers, Oh my god, an incredible episodes. Second, but I always remember a moment in an episode of

was what you just said? So Little Time where one of them gets addicted to massages at the coffee She can't stop getting massages. That's me, Like six, I got a massage in public at Bonaru thank you, and I was like, this is turned bad to get fully massage will laying done in public? It's something you shouldn't. You've gone all the way up to the line. I don't like massages. Professional were like they were they think it's like they hurt, but yeah, like you and your sex partner,

like if it's like a sex. One of my favorite kinds of porn is massage porn, That's true. It's a whole category of gay porn where it's like a guy's going into a sports massage and like he's just like a college football player, and then like the guy starts like paying a lot of attention to the ass in there, and they like totally not to take a dick up his ask. But it's perfectly wax. So it takes two. So Steve Guenberg does look sexy. Oh my god, he's

got a very square mill his shoulders. He looks like six different people, let's name them the guy from Cone trying to kids. He also does, I mean hunky, a little bit like Billy Crystal, like Dennis Quaid, but only because this movie is the parent Trap. Yeah, it is. The movie is the parent Trap. And he kind of intector, saying it's also a Princeton and Paper. It's not. Actually you've read whatever you know. I believe you need to for one second get over the fact that I was

an English minor near a book. Jamie. What's your history with the movie. Um, I saw it when I was really for some reason, my household was not a Mary Kate Nashley household. I think my mom did not care for them. But my best friend Lindsay growing up had a very Mary Kay Nashurally household. So all my memories with them are like tied to like hanging out with her and like we would go I would go over and we would watch as many as possible before I

would have to go home. So I'm talking the sleepover tapes, talking the mystery tapes and talking it takes two password to Paris. Billboard Dad my personal favorite, and this one, this is not my favorite one, but it's you know, I love. I think that this is the only one that was like in theaters like until until New York minute many years. O loved New York. Jean Levy on the cover. Also, Jared Palecki is in that movie, and who is that? To me? He is he is from

a cultural blind. I'm actually so passionate about this. Dean isn't hot. I don't think he's hot either, but he is irrefutably in that movie. We can't take that from him. I had never seen this movie. I have never seen any Mary Kate n Ashley Olson movie. Wait what you're like the perfect? Aren't you like the same? I'm the I am a month older than them. Are I am actually the third Olson triplet. I just came out a month premature. You know, we're like almost the exact same age.

But I don't know. I watched Full House when I was a kid, but I did not engage in any of their film works. But yeah, so I hadn't seen this movie, but I had seen The Parent Trap a million times as a kid. But the Parent Trap came out Lisa Lindsay Lohan one came up three years after It Takes two, so it's hard to tell how much this movie was from. But those Parents Shop was based on the previous right, so it's hard to say how much It Takes Two pulled from the original Parent Trap

from like the sixties. What I think happened is they were like, um, and I was, and I wasn't. There wasn't in on these meetings, but right. But I think happened is they were like, this is like the height of of M K and A. And they were like, we need a vehicle for these young girls and theaters. And they were like, well, what can we do? They are twins. They got a Brooklyn accent, and they got us from gently British accent. The British accent comes and

goes the party daddy. She's just got good diction and that's British for her. But I think that like they were just like wanting to do a twenty thing and then they're like, well we could do parent trap this stuff, and they're like then they just cut anything that was like difficult plot wise. They're like, let's not make the actual twin like that, Let's just make the magetical changers.

And like I think they which I've seen that documentary Three Identical Strangers and it turns out that they were triplets, they were biologically related. It's so crazy that they're just like, yeah, they just happened to look exactly alike. I thought that was really funny. That was like my favorite like weird, confusing plot thing in this movie was that they look like I rewound it to be like, wait a second, is there a moment where like the parents like what

sisteresn't you know? The thing tween? Like, oh my god, and so good. But also I love Kirstie's reaction when the butler comes and she like finds out that they're looking exactly like and she's just like that's amazing. Is it amazing. I don't know, he's a social worker, like you, like it seems like you would be the person to be looking into this. She's you know, she's not particular. I mean she I guess she's sort of good at her job. She spends a lot of your time at camp.

She has good at her job because she's trying to adopt, Like what are the ethics of her trying to adopt only a single one of these kids that she It's messed up. It is gosh, it is I like that part though in Kirsty, I mean we can we can hit it. In the there's a part where she's in this like Stevie next Black Billowy things. She's walking through the woods. She's like, do I love Steve Gutenberg or not? That was my favorite. Her clothes are so big, Yeah,

so big. There. I feel like there's like this whole narrative with like Kirsty Alley's like body where like when she's in her forties, because she's in her forties in this movie, and there's like, you know how like Kirsty Alley she was representative for like Jenny Craig forever and actress and like everyone gave her ship about her weight forever, and I think this is around the time where that starts, because the way she's cost him just like kind of

bizarre sometimes where she's like put in these like billowy boxy like you're you're not really supposed to be seeing your body, I don't know, a cinched waist on cheers, like like shoulder pads and cinched waist. And then yeah, she was this the polar opposite direction. But I think that like there was like one scene where she was like the high waisted jean. Yes, was that the food food fight scene? No, because she's wearing like a really like size. Yeah. Yeah, it's like she's a kittie. She's

a camp to have some fun. Were you so many sweaters at cantel summer? It's summer? Just kiss me off. In movies where there's kids at camp, they're always wearing like flannels. I'm like, it's hot. They probably shot it in November. They're like, it's some stop romanticizing flannel. Okay, So I'll do the recap really quickly of this story and then we'll get into the discussion. Okay, So we meet this little girl named Amanda. She's a tomboy. She's playing baby I'm Walking and she lives at like an

orphanage of sorts. And then Diane, which is Kirsty's character, is trying to help find a family to adopt her. So that's her exposition. But I think it's interesting that she has to interview, like it's a job, got to come to your interview for your parents. But I'm just surprised that they make orphans interview for that. I also like the like, right off the bat, she leans out the window and immediately like threatens one of the sweet

little girl. She's like, I'm gonna kill you. You're gonna get into the k I said, I'll kill you if you were dressed to play ball. And then the Brooklyn twent is like which they live in the East Side of Manhattan. They re beall but like they is like what, I ain't gonna hurt it or nothing. She's scrappy. She's very scrappy. But in direct contrast to scrappy Amanda, there's Alissa Callaway who looks the exact same as Amanda, but she's a different person and she's rich and she plays

the piano and she gets off this private jet. She's sort of British, even though her parents is not British and she doesn't live in England. She has this weird like ash like, I still love hats. I feel like the personality is it's like it's like and this is a classic Alson twin device. It's like it's like a brim hat with the front from like bent up in

the Sunflower on it classics twins. They also the backwards baseball cat depending on what their characters, Calton is always well back on, like two sisters are a polar like they were. One loves sports, but one love's fashion. One's more like a boy and one's more like well, Mary kid's always a sporty one, right, and then Ashley is always like more fim, I never pay attention to who to who plays, which, well, that's true and you should be for some reason that it's very important to me.

I missed the Olsen Twins, like we were saying, I just had this. We just had this conversation where I was doing them frantics. We were like, are they like, how are they doing that? Are they doing well? And I said, it's the kind of thing where it's like it does it don't seems like they're not doing well. But if you say that, if you ever like say something about the Olden Twins, the other persons like they're actually doing amazing. So what are you finding about? Okay,

So are like they have a bunch of like fashion lines. Yeah, but that's what everyone says. They're like, well, they're doing fashion now. And then their other sister who looks also exactly like them. Yeah, yeah, and she's in like the Avengers movies. I want some movie where she was. It's called Liberal Arts with Ted mose B from How Your Mother Seen It. Okay, so back to the story. So there are these two girls who look identical, but you

know they come from different walks of life. And then Alyssa meets she like meets up with her father, who Steve Goods, does not show up to Alyssa's private jet, very rude. The butler shows up to the private jet, right, but there's no handshake like in right but a butler

kind of raising a child. And I think, like this whole movie makes if I'm ever rich, God for bed, I want to be like the kind of rich people are in like mid nineties movies, or you for sure have like a house of like kind of like servants that are just like walking on with potters butlers. We need platters, we need a circular tiveway, we need like

indoor pool. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get legally married to like the bitchy woman who's like the stepmom and all these movies, Like I'm going to have that white for sure in this movie. Her name is Clarisse Kensington Larise. So Elyssa meets her and she's like, who's this woman? She's engaged to Steve Guttenberg's character, but she doesn't know that yet. How do we think they met? Yeah, they do not say they only met like a fundraising event.

Because she says, this is where I feel like the it does a little better than the parent Trap because she's like she's supposed to be like a climbing socialite or whatever. But then Meredith and the parent Trap has a job and is super successful, but it's just like trying to marry him anyways. I was like, but it seems like you're fine anyways, lady. I mean, she's just kind of like she's like a socialite cartoon right something. These characters are ever well, doesn't got the big shells.

I do think she looks stunning. In the engagement party scene, she's wearing the green dress like her like necklace and earrings are really nice. I was like, howd romantic feeling stars Jewish friend comes up and I'm like, that's me. I did book that role. So Alyssa gets upset that Clarissa is so mean, and she finds out that she's

getting married to her father, so she's like, I'm running away. Meanwhile, Amanda is going to summer camp on the same lake that this like giant estate where Listen now lives, and like Steve Guttenberg's dead wife started the camp. We never learned her name, We never learned anything except died. During child person the scene because they were yelling over the cafeteria and he's like, my wife died. Alyssa was born,

and I was like, my daughter killed my wife. That scene is so wild, like the way that's delivered, because after he said, he's like, she died giving birth to Alyssa, and Kirsty Alli just like wins this and it's like, oh sorry, and then they continue the the whole point of that. It's like for Kirsty Ally's characters in her head was like, oh your single. Yeah, it's like a weird flirty moment of learning that someone's wife has been dead for ten years. Perhaps they're single. Oh god, Okay.

So then so Amanda is with like all of her camp friends and they dare her to ring the doorbell of this huge house because they're like, it's haunted, so like ring the doorbell. So she does, and then Vincenzo the butler, opens the door and he sees Amanda and thinks it's Alyssa because again they are identical strangers, so he brings her butler. And then Diane finds Alyssa, who

would run away to like a hundred yards away. Uh. So she's like, hey, Amanda, and then she brings Alyssa thinking it's Amanda back to the camp and there's a football game that makes Alyssa run back into the woods just as Amanda is running away from the house. And then then they bump into each other strangers again. Yes, so there's like an extra step that doesn't need to be there. They could have just like yeah. But then I feel like the movie seemed like an end of Votus,

you know. I was like, oh, they had to shut this out, so they decide to switch places. And why do they decide to switch places? So Amanda is going to pretend to be Alyssa because she's so good at scaring off parents because she's an orphan and no one wants to adopt her. Got it? But then it's not clear why Alyssa wants to go to the camp and

pretend to be Amanda. Yeah, I think it's kind of like a grass is always creen no situation because they did set up a lot, like neither of them are like happy in their lives and like one it's always like I want. I think that they were both like like the one wanted like parents and the other one was like, oh my god, it's really it's like what's it like to have friends? So when they reunite the next day, Amanda is like Clarice has gone, but only

for a week. And then Alyssa's like ship like too bad, Diane can't be my mom because they had like bonded with each other. So they get the idea and all of her It's like the Chessie of this. I like the Chessie gets to really shine and it gets to be the romantic interest finally, right mid forties romantically, Chris comes through, so then they get the idea to have Diane try to meet Steve Guttenberg in the hopes that they will fall in love. So they orchestrate this whole

like horse riding encounter. Steveberg's horse outfit is off the chart is a quest tree and where the gloves don't forget the moment where he is writing with one of the girls. I don't remember which one it is, but he says something like he asks her a question and then she responds with are you asking me in a questrian? It's meant to be a play on words, but it's we have the l I guess it's an attempted a joke. He did look so hot in his like writing off when he was I was like cool. I think this

movie is actually really cool. So so Diane and Steve Gutenberg's character, which do we know his name? Roger Rogers actually Steenberg. So Diana and Roger and me and Steve do you Steve Guenberg's character take closer to be your wife? Steve Guenberg also even years younger than Kirstiality radical. I love that this movie is political. Okay, So so Roger and Diane. They meet and the sparks are flying. They are very interested in rebbed up from riding those fucking horses. Yeah,

there's one is coming. She's bouncing everything I'm about. There's a lot of there's like a lot of chemistry between them too. I was like, because usually with these movies, you're just like, yeah, that was no way. But I was like, man, I could, I could. I would watch the Yeah, oh my god, I'm so horny lately. So then they hang out at camp a little bit. There's this big food fight. They almost kiss, but then they get interrupted. Is it usually happens because they can't kiss?

Oh my god? But no, isn't that scene interrupted by the loose golden telescope? Well, yeah, the canoes fall over because that's where the two girls are hiding, but Vincenzo is actively spying on him and the golden tell us Yeah, but then he leaves the room and then Clarice comes back like way early and then looks into the telescope and sees them flirting. So then she's like, fuck, let's got a wedding. The golden telescope is my new favorite plot device. I wanted to be in every movie because

that cuts off him watching through the Golden telescope. I like panicked in my hand because he's saying as he's watching through the telescope at Kirsty Alley and Steve Guttenberg flirting a whole lake away. So it's like, it's a it's a nice telescope. They're very wealthy, uh, And he goes, that's more like it. And then he turns and faith and then and then she looks in the sheet and then she sees, yeah, so that's why she's like, I gotta bump up this wedding, gotta trap this man a sap.

And then she's trying to send Amanda, who she thinks is Alyssa, away to boarding school. And while that's all happening, Alyssa, who the can't people think is Amanda is being adopted by that lame couple from the beginning who basically just like put her to work into a junkyard, which is like I thought that was like unnecessarily like real, they're just like, oh yeah, and let's also like shed some light on the harsh adoptive practices. And I was like, this is not the movie to be but it's like

a bunch of kids and like they're working in a scrapyard. Yeah, and Kirsty comes and she's like, I'm going to report your social services after I get my man. And they made the kids seem so mean and on the adoptive father's side and they're just like you think you're richy fucking idiot, and the rich kid is saved and all the poor kids stuck in the adoptive system are left to right. It's like, wow, really inspiring message. Good job.

But then yeah, Diane goes to rescue Alyssa and then mean, yeah, Amanda's stalling the wedding, and then the two of them are there because it takes two baby to stop the wedding, which works, and then Roger ends up with Diane and then they finally get to kiss, and then I guess they're all together as a family because Diana adopts Amanda. Is that what happen? Also a line in the beginning of the movie where like the poor one was like,

won't you just stop me, Diana? And I was like, you know that they won't let me adopt you because on my salary, plus I don't have a husband. That I did not catch that that is like one of the wilder, more like points that comes up multiple points

in the movie. And there's even one point where she's trying to adopt Amanda and then they're like they laughed at me because I don't have a husband, and he was just like this is and then you're and then I'm like, maybe I knew she likes Steve Gutenberg, but he could be a means to an end to get her to be able to adopt this, because yeah, I think that was also a point, was like, now it could be a family because I have a husband who's ritch and they'll let me adopt you, and he's so bleak.

Let's talk more about that right after we take this break and we're back. Do you guys didn't have anyone you can set me up with while I'm here they're in Los Angeles. Yeah, I want if you're trying to adopt a child, then you need a husband. Yeah, if you have a ten year old you're trying to adopt, we know a number of very wealthy Guttenberg types, perfect

love to. My other favorite line in the movie was when Cursy was like, wow, you're so rich, Like you must be amazing, and these and the guys like it was just dumb luck getting rich. I only invented cellphones? Is that what he says he invented that's like a brilliant and like kind of society changing invention that. But I did see that. I'm like, oh, he's humble, Like he's like, I stole the idea from Star Trek and now I'm a billion um. Start checking invented cell phones.

The main country the way for me was Melissa's cannopy bed. That's the bed I have always wanted and still want. Yes, But also my favorite part of the movie was when they stopped the wedding and like Clarius is mortified and she goes to hit in front of thousand people. She goes to hit the kid and then like, but I was like, if you hit that kid, I'll punch you. Yeah. He's like I will beat the ship out of it.

And then we're and then we're like wow, Butler like go off incredible, and then she walks down the aisle and threatens to hit the second kid and says back off, Barbie right right. My friend thought that the funniest line of all times so many times. And then she's like, I've never been more humiliated in my life. And then one of the kids goes want a bed and then

rips her skirt off. She has to run away with I mean, like, we mean you do feel bad for her when sure, but he says, no, I love the idea of just anytime you're humiliating, humiliated, yelling I've never been related in my entire life at the top of your lungs. So wait to go back to what we were touching on a little bit. Ago is like, there's

this idea that's in this movie. It's in the Lindsay Lohan Parent Trap, but it's this idea that like a kid needs a mother and a father's nuclear the mother, a father and one gay butler who's canotically straight, because like Amanda wants Diane to adopt her, and like Diane again, the ethics of this is crazy. When she's like, yeah, I want to adopt you too. Yes, I run an orphanage full of many other children who need adopted, but

you're the one that I like the best. And then what she continues living in the orphanage like right, yeah, I was. I mean, it's just like very like all these movies are so like they're like, well, a single parent could not possibly do this, So like, well, you know, you have to do like a series of high jinks and throw Steve Gutenberg in a river and hope he falls in love, and like there has to be a food fight so that you can have your straight parents

in in a golden telescope, which I do. Yeah, because at one point the dad, the Steve Gutenberg character, Oh no, I'm falling apart. Are You're starting to sound like Katherine's exactly similar. He says to Alyssa, He's like, Clarius and I are getting married. You're going to finally have a real family. She's going to be your new mother. So it's like, you know, there's no such thing as a real family unless there's a head row mom and a

head or a dad. They're married together. And then Diane, earlier than that, even says to Amanda, you deserve a mother and a father. And then Amanda's like, so get a husband, and she's like, I don't know how I haven't met Steve, And I said, have you checked out CarMax, Oh yeah, I mean, like I think we talked a little bit. Because we've done a bonus episode on the

Lindsay Lohan Parent Trap. We had this discussion a little bit, but yeah, it's like these like children's movies are perpetuating this like heteronormative nuclear family unit that has to exist or else like it's not a quote real family, or that there's like something missing or that issue. Right. Yeah, yeah, it's it's just very nice. That was the nineties. Yeah, like there's I can't think of any movie that like really in the nineties that would like challenge this at all.

But it is weird that there was like a trend of movies that it was like people striving for a nuclear unit at all costs, and there's always like a rich blonde lady who gets I personally, she gets gum in her hair in this one, but I prefer the lizard in the mouth. That's such a good scene. The nuclear Yeah. I was also thinking of like Mrs doubt Fire, Like the nineties were about having two parents. They're about ruffles with onion dep there were about the bucket hats

with a big sunflower. They were about twins. They were about right down to the cores like commercials, and now there's more twins ever, and then all the double mins, more commercials who are Sproustill the nineties, we had Tia Tomorrow, we had Dalson's we had and he were there. Boy twins Zack and Cody, Yeah that was were there? Other boy twins were they? Who were the kids who played Ross's son and friends? Those who were this So we're once again hitting on the Sprouses, the codes. The Rosses

kids are all two people. They're all two people. Oh God, did y'all want twin with twin when you're up? Kind of? I really wanted to. I was dying for a twin that was dead, for twin slaughtered the media representation. Okay, well this leads me kill my brother if it meant I would have got the twins because the media representation of twins made it seem so cool and so fun because they always go on these like high James had

been trus together. It's necessarily a negative media was just prominent thing trends on The Bachelor a few years ago. But one of the main the big thing I noticed about this movie. Here's my main problem with it, because it's is it the child acting? Well, that is a very big thing. So it's a movie starring two little girls, and yet it still has to end in a hetero adult wedding, because I was thinking about, like, okay, think

about movies that star mostly little boys. You know, you've got your goonies, you've got your stand lots, Mighty Ducks, any like little boys sports movie basically, and then like stand by Me, it's like boys getting to go on

adventures and like having a ragtag time. But movies that star little girls, the trend is, well, I can't even think of that many aside from like this whole slew of I think, oh Harry, but like as far as like an ensemble cast of like a bunch of little girls, like, I can't think of hardly any I are never forget what flipping on my TV and seeing now and then and my mind being completely blow Oh my god, oh my god, it's you know, yeah, I've seen it. I've

never seen anything like this. I can't believe there are these little girls talking about like wanting boobs and like flirting and boys, and like it was the most I was like, why aren't there more? I've never seen anything like this in my life or something like that. But yeah, the point is like there's no there's so few movies about like little girls just being little girls, and if there is a movie where there are like a couple of girls, it's usually about them orchestrating this like crazy

love story for adults. I think there are some exceptions to that rule, but it was I mean, just like the whole wedding aspect of this seems like, I don't know there was a more fun movie where that wasn't so prominent as much as I love an extended stop the wedding sequence, and they really go for it here. There's horses, there's helicopters, there's abandoned adopted children go off.

But going back really quickly to like how movies that feature like little boys versus movies that feature little girls, Like, guess what I never did as a little girl. I never tried to get two adults to fuck. What I did do is I went to school, I played soccer, I played on jungle gyms, I was in girl Scouts, like I climbed trees. I like, did all this stuff that like you see little boys get to do in movies.

I feel like I did. Want. I think that it was as a result of watching movies like this where I'm like, oh, who are too adults in my life? Who I could try to convince the fall. But it was a direct result of like I didn't come up with that on my own anymore than like I came up with like wanting to play Harry at the Spy on my own, or like wanting to play like any movie. Starting a little girl just became a game of like we're just playing that, We're just re enacting it for

as you know, I'm an in. And well, that's the other thing about like all these movies that are targeted that have like big theatrical releases that are targeted to little girls, they're usually about like teens or adults falling in love. Like if we're looking at like the movies like when I was growing up or were like the Disney Renaissance movies where You've got you know, your beauty and the Beasts and Aladdin's and Little Mermaids, and it's

like all these movies about romance. And then the movies targeted towards little boys, you know, they're like adventurers and they're going on, they're gonna go find a dead body,

or they're gonna go find the treasure. They're gonna they're gonna go find a sand lot so I just like, I hate that that And we say this all the time, but movies that are targeted towards children have to be especially careful with their content and their messages and all that stuff, because you know, their brains are little sponges and they just like take whatever they see as like

absolute truth. So I mean, it's no wonder that, like, at least like my generation of like kids growing up into the adults, we are now being fed the movies that we were made me all fucked up, sucked up in your head. Yeah, I'm so boy crazy. Oh my god, I'm exhausted. That's all I think about. I was telling you, I don't know yet. Fortunately, this movie was not particularly successful. It did not, which I think is maybe why the parent Trap was so comfortable lifting so much material from it.

It did not do very well in theaters, which is why Mary Kaye nashurally were trapped on television for the next ten years. I didn't didn't do everything I would have assumed it did. No, it only made like million

backs a lot. We have a lot of money. Well, when you fucking invent a cell phone that's like pocket chain, I do want to draw some of the comparisons between both It Takes Two in the parent trap, and let's throw the Princess in there too, because that's basically also the same exact movie my lover who broke up with me after asking me to be his girlfriend four days before.

Oh sorry, just mix about me. We have to side part talking about and we did another Matreon bonus episode about that movie, so everyone should sign up for Matrion and listen to it anyway. Okay, so the parallels. We've got summer Camp being a huge plot point. We've got a dad living in a huge house in the countryside butler, the one who is posh has a butler. Friend. Of the two girls, we've got an evil stepmother lady who

is blonde and mean. And then the parallels between It Takes Two and the Princess, which are that one of them can play the piano and one of them can't, and the one who can't play piano is forced into a situation where she has to play the piano, and the same thing with horse riding, where one of them knows how to horse ride the other one doesn't. I know this, yeah, totally, yeah, but I mean I guess

at least Amanda plays like football pla. Yeah, okay, do you remember the stylist character who I think is in like one scene he's like, this movie, you're like very standard queer coded stylist character that you see in like all of these movies. He said something like, I'm a hairdresser, not a zoo keeper, which is hilarious thing. There's no Paulo putin Esca. But he'll do the one moment where I felt, I mean, I feel bad for any of these stepmother characters that don't exist in real life, just

because they're so like hertial cartoon. But when they do make the choice to bring in her father, who negs the funk out of her. The second she's about to he's like, wow, my first daughter is also the last to get married. Interesting, and then just slides out of and we're like, what who is that for? All of those evil stepmother characters in these movies are so underwritten

and so poorly developed. It I just thought it was I thought it was weird that the only is like the only part of her they chose to develop was like, Oh, but don't worry, she has severe daddy issues up there. Interesting. We got to take another quick break but we'll be right back and we're back. Yes, I talked. Yes. Also on the child acting, this this movie made me actually really appreciate the talent of Market and Nash Wilson because

they were the only take. They were literally the only kids in the movie that were even slightly off buck like everything. Every other kid was like truly reading cute cards.

The thing that the thing that like legitimately bothered me about this movie as much as it's like we've talked about like the wedding movies ending in the wedding is, you know, exhausted and in ninety is probably like peak even though it's still happened, But the way adoption was like made to look and this movie really bugged me.

But I think it's because I, like I grew up around a lot of kids who were adopted or were like in the system, and the way that I don't know, just like this movie makes it look so goofy and almost like it's the kid's fault, like especially in the in the Junkyard situation, where all the kids that are not like this wealthy little girl and like Steve Gutenberg's daughter are made to seem like antagonistic and mean and like asking for it that they're being treated so horribly

and all the orphans like at the orphanage is a little different, but that's like not even how the adoption system works anymore. Like why are we still being like, oh, the New York City Orphanage, Like that's not how the systems were. I don't know. It just logged me. Even with the old Stan it's like, if you could only just wear a dress like you would be adopted, but you you're presenting is too tomboyish, so that's why no

one likes you. And there's also no like arc where it's like, oh, like she can't she be herself and get adopted. It's like no, you actually couldn't have. But thank God for you, Like I'm marrying a rich guy and now you don't need to be adopted, right Yeah, yeah, that I don't know. That was like the one thing that really did. I was just like, oh, that's like irresponsible and like there was a way to write that storyline that didn't need to be that way, but it

was just yeah, I don't know. Does anyone have any other thoughts about the movie? The Masterpiece? It takes two. Wait, I think we need to talk a little bit more about like what the Olsen Twins mean to us. I suppose the Olsen Twins don't mean that much to me. Um, they weren't. They just weren't a part of my media consumption as a as a kid. When I was this age, I was watching Back to the Future every day of

my life. Oh my god. Yeah, I was like I was watching those problematic eighties movies that were like a little too old for me to be watching. I was like Back to the Future and like Indiana Jones were my go twos. So I was watching these like boy centric movies because I didn't like what was available I mean,

and then like also all those Disney movies. But I just didn't like a lot of what was available to me, like the like girly movies, I suppose, which probably because they were all about like, hey, let's make sure these adults fuck and that's my main goal. Like why couldn't there have been a movie about two girls who meet each other, whether or not they look exactly alike or not, like whatever, but it helps can it not be about something like why does it automatically have to be about

like trying to get a romance? To happen because it's like, well, they're too young to try to find boys themselves. But that's not also, not to be fair, that's not every Mary Kit naturally joint. Sure, they do a lot of different they do variation on like three different plots. Sometimes they're trying to find a parent love. Other times they're like solving a mystery. Like they do a lot of stuff,

but they always have a love interest in their films. Yes, yeah, and I mean I guess there is I mean even and like Passport to pairs like together, that's like the that's their first on screen kiss. Oh my waits was the twins first on screen kiss and they were eleven. This is what my brain is telling. And then one of the one of the French guys. Maybe this is why I keep getting adiction to people who don't live

in the same country as me. But one of the guys, like she meets him and he's imitating her and he goes, oh my god, oh my god, remember that her. Oh I feel completely their twelve in that movie. That's why, well, I remember that so clear. We also talked by the cultural moment where it was like two four and there was like online and there was like websites where you could go to see a countdown clock. My older cousin was all about that. He was into the It was disgusting.

Anyone who's into that clock is gay. I had that having so much as by for a cousin and his wife and they're two beautiful twin girls. That's a big Also,

he's like tortured inside and it's in Massachusetts married. Can I just say one thing about the countdown of like the Twins team, Like, there's this huge problem that's happening right now and probably has been happening since the dawn of time, where like men in whatever capacity and industry and all that are like grooming underage problem to like whenever they become legal in turn eighteen, so they're like ready to trap in basically. But it's like one word,

one word, Brittany, It's that's happening right now. I get her name, but um, the actors who plays eleven on Stranger Things, Oh, she's majorly getting that treatment of like she's thirteen, but like let's start to get her sexy now. It makes me puke. So that's I mean, the only and the only boy I can think of that received that treatment was Justin Bieber. I do remember there being a clock element to the Justin Bieber canon. Yes. Um. Anyway, hey,

does this movie pass the Bechdel test? Yes, it does. Amanda and Alyssa talk to each other a lot. Amanda and Diane talk about finding her a new family. A listen, Clarice talk to each other a bit. Um. Yeah, there's a lot of different combos and situations. It's a feminist text. It's a feminist text. You bet you. Actually, while we're watching, Pat turns to me and goes, I think this movie is good for women. Yeah what moment because one of

them played baseball. Yeah. Yeah, if a girl plays baseball and a movie, it is good for women and all of its flaws must be forgiven immediately. Well, let's rate the movie, speaking of deciding if it's good for women or not, rated on our nipple scale zero to five nipples based on its portrayal and representation of women. I

don't know. It's so hard with these kids movies that have to be well, they don't have to be, but this era, they're so cartoonish that it's kind of hard to even evaluate them for anything because they're so cartoon but you're saying you think that they should be helped to hire standard still because kids movies these days. Yeah, so I mean these kids, they were condescending, and they helped perpetuate these like would end up being harmful ideas that like a kid needs a mother and father if

they're going to turn out. Okay, the movie was bad for gays, that's okay. I forget almost every movie goodet there it was good forett. Yeah, I would get women. Actually, no, because they have to get married or they can't have a child. That's actually horrible for them. Yeah, I would give it too out of I think that's where I would give its five nibbles. Really feminist, it's like Mowana level feminism. I don't watch kids movies because they are

boring to me. I watched them. Paddington is my favorite movie. People are all piped up on that and not there. I guess I'll watch it. I can't watch anything really because I have anxiety and I start thinking about myself too much. It's actually a disease. Um I would I guess two nips or even one nip. It's like it's not helpful. It's not helpful. Yeah, it's I mean it's good. I guess it's good for like little girls who can be like, oh look, they're like, you know, doing a thing.

But I mean, at the end of the day, I'm gonna do Yeah, I'll do like even one. And it sucks because it's like, you know, I guess if we're breaking it down, like women are on screen the majority of the time, but like there's it's just like it's so nineties and it's like ideology and what it's pushing.

Like I wouldn't show this movie to a kid. It seems counterproductive, right, Yeah, I think I'm kids one nipple, right, because it's like no little girl has ever done this to the to the extent where they're like fucking riding horse is and like trying like orchestrating these like very complicated meat cutes, like that's not anything a little girl does. But because like at least two movies are about this, yeah, and one is way better, is a masterpiece, and the

other this one is boring. Yeah. The thing he addressed that they she has this refrain of I want that, can't eat, can't sleep, knocking out of the park, and that is the most damaging thing A little girl can hear because you think if someone treats you bad it makes you feel bad, then they're to love your life and you must chase after that, and that that the pining of them is what is romantic, and that has actually ruined my life. So excuse you all, I levitate

off my chair and go through the ceiling. I also want to say that it's crazy that we both remember the food it's seen, but neither of us remembered that Kirsty Alley's character starts the food. Yes, I'm like you talking about that your camp. I'm taking this honestly progressive. Yeah, she starts to her own camp. No, someone's to clean it. Someone she pays is gonna have to clean the food, or she will have to do it because she's like fire fust You need to think of the employees. Oh

my god, this movie is my firefust Um. Well, thanks to the both of you for thank you guys so much fun plug stuff. Just follow me on so at cats Cohen C A, T, C, E, T N and mollow me on so to actually do if you're on all Catherine and and I'm this is so weird and so twisted twist, but it's different on Twitter and install and know I'm trying to say I not instead, that's

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