¶ Evaluating Controversy Over Comedy Jokes
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So in India there's a very popular YouTuber named Beer Biceps , or Ranveer , the Ranveer show . A lot of people watch it . He interviews a lot of people from Sanatana Dharma , a lot of spiritual people , and he , you know , kind of , is somebody that is on this path of spirituality .
I don't know if he calls himself enlightened or self-realized , I'm not sure , but he obviously is known to be someone who is in that space that is spiritual . So he was on a kind of a comedy roast show or podcast and he said like a crude joke and he's been getting a lot of hate for it . I think people aren't liking him because of it .
Now , I don't really like his show . To be honest , I'm not really interested in the way he questions or his . I always find him to be quite shallow in his thinking . But nevertheless , you know , he's doing something good in the sense of presenting different ideas and different strands of hinduism , so I think that's to be celebrated .
But the question is really can a joke go too far , and can someone who is a host of a show like him not say jokes that are crass or crude ? Like , for example , I was thinking well , if I was playing cards against humanity and I say something pretty ruthless , that doesn't mean that I represent that view .
If somebody goes on a comedy roast show and they're meant to joke around , regardless how low brow it is , well , that's what's expected from the show , and it's interesting that people are saying well , because he's representing Sanatana Dharma , he shouldn't do this , he shouldn't do that , but at the same , why shouldn't he ?
He's not pretending to be a spiritual teacher . He's asking questions . He may have had spiritual experiences . That doesn't mean that his podcast is where he is , the face of it , in the sense of he's telling other people that he should be worshipped . I don't think there's any of that . So to kind of and worse jokes have been said . This is , it's interesting .
So I remember when , if you all remember that incident that happened in Delhi many years ago with that girl I forgot the name but where she was when when that gang did what they did to that girl horribly . It was disgusting , abhorrent behaviour .
And if you remember , aser Ambabu said and he didn't get enough hate for this , not like what Ranveer is getting , and Ranveer didn't do anything bad , like this , not like what Ranveer is getting , and Ranveer didn't do anything bad .
But Asarambapu was like if that girl said to those people that you know I'm your sister , you're my brothers , please don't do this , as if they would listen . That just , I mean , that was just for me and that was serious , he was being serious , he wasn't joking , and yet he didn't get enough slack for that .
And at the same time I'm thinking this joke where you know he shouldn't even have to apologize for such a joke . I mean , if people are getting affected by that , I know there's bigger things to worry about and India should be worried more about , like kind of inflation increasing and costs increasing and stuff like that .
And yet , when we're getting angry about jokes that I said on the podcast , that is again pretty crass and low key , low brow . Why do we take such things seriously ?
So , yeah , I mean , my , my whole thing about relating it to sanatana dharma is like , well , I don't think it really really is not the face of sanatana dharma , so it's not really a big deal and we shouldn't make it a big deal , like it should be forgotten about .
So , yeah , you know , worse things have been said and people have got away with it and you know , half the things that are said on , say , social media is so ridiculous and you know , this was not really that bad of a joke in my opinion . I still , you know , and this was not really that bad of a joke in my opinion .
I still have my views about beer biceps as a podcaster and the way he asks questions , but again , he's got a large audience . He's done some great work and that should be really appreciated and we shouldn't let one incident cloud the amount of good work that has been done too . You know this is an isolated incident .
It's not like he's repetitively done such things . Where it's an actual behavioral issue . He was on a podcast that does dumb jokes and he just said a dumb joke . I mean , what more was expected from that ? But yeah , I mean that was .
You know , I felt like whenever people try to attach it to religion and attach it to some like dogma and and try to say , oh , you know , they harmed the religion , is our religion so weak that one joke can harm it , you know ? Or that it , or that it represents our religion wrongly ?
I mean , he didn't even say the joke in terms of as a religious or spiritual person . He said it as himself , and I think we need to be very careful about how we kind of judge others and give them the verdict of what we think should happen to them . Yeah , so that was my view about the beer biceps thing .
And and again , you know , I tried to look at this from the point of , you know , non-duality and how would non-duality interpret such an incident ?
At the end of the day you come back to silence made someone's life , where he's had to apologize and he's come on video doing so , where they will feel shame and they will feel guilt and they will feel upset , and I wonder whether that is necessary , you know , and should we not have more compassion .
If we understand the context , that it's a joke , why are we isolating it from the situation that it was in ? And also , instead of just attacking someone , putting an FIR on them , how about understanding them first ? Get them to talk about the issue ? So , yeah , it's interesting , but I could only feel silence .
I could feel , I could only feel compassion for Ruvia actually and , yeah , main thing was , I just was really silent about it . I didn't normally have very like kind of direct views that I am . That's bad , like the joke is bad , like it's a terrible joke .
I mean , on a comedic level it's ridiculous , but to take it seriously , it's actually you become the bigger joke by doing so . So I don't think so . Yeah , people getting offended they're the jokes , not the joke itself . The joke itself is not funny , but the fact that people are getting angry over a not funny joke is ridiculous .
And it's not like that joke has any racism , it's not against someone's gender , it's not homophobic , it's none of those things . And so it just baffles me and I think that's the problem that we don't we go with our emotions . We don't we go with our emotions , we don't inquire first , we don't use our intellect to see is it worth responding to ?
Is it worth getting so angry about that ? I have to then take this person to court or put a case on them , like is it worth that much ? Is my heart even open to such people , the very people that are saying you know , oh , he's harmed religion . What good are you doing ? Are you doing any good ?
And if you are , if you are doing good and you have realized the self , you've realized Brahman , you realize what your true nature is . From that , if I may use the words space , how can you have even a fleeting moment of anger ? How can you have even a fleeting moment of anger over such a dumb joke ?
The whole point of being intelligent is that you can see the joke and be like you know that's just not funny . But when we get angry about it , why , why do we get angry about it ? Why why do we get angry about it ?
Because this is the thing If we show our anger , whether it's through social media or whichever way , it's about showing that we are a warrior about something . We have something to fight for . But what are you actually fighting for ? Is it bringing peace in your life if you put a case on someone and you make them stressed out .
Do you think that will be good karma ? Do you think that will actually bring you happiness and peace ? Bringing other people down only increases one's pain and suffering . In fact , it veils one's pain and suffering , so we don't even deal with it .
So that's why , you know , any hate and animosity should always be avoided and we should tread the path where we look at the fact that we don't want to harm anybody . We don't want to cause any suffering to anybody .
So if you really want to show sanatana dharma , if you really want to pretend to be a sanatani , then check are your actions aligned to how Sri Krishna would tell us to be ? Do you think Sri Krishna would tell us to go and file an FIR case and make sure that person feels shame and guilt ? Do you think that's ? He didn't even make Duryodhana feel that way .
So what makes you think that Sri Krishna would approve of this ? Do you think Shivji would approve of this ? No , absolutely not . Do you think any great guru or sage would think like that ? No , they would be like move on , move forward . It's not worth the time . Why should my intellect even entertain such nonsense ?
That's the way to think , because before we check whether we are someone else is harming another person or people buy some words by a joke . We should check whether whatever we say is going to cause harm . I'll be using our intelligence to check that .
¶ Supporting Forgiveness in Podcast Controversy
So , yeah , that's my views on the beer biceps thing . I mean , I feel bad for him . I feel bad for ron v . I think you know he's done some decent podcasts . He's had really great guests , to be honest , and , uh , you know he's opened people to different ideas .
I think he should be appreciated for that one isolated incident , in my opinion , unless this becomes a reoccurring thing . But I feel like he was genuinely upset .
You know he wanted forgiveness and he was seeking that forgiveness , and if we're still going to hold things against him , I think that would be kind of really sad , and I'd rather have someone that is talking about spirituality and being a positive voice than someone who doesn't talk about these things .
You know he's not a Logan Paul , he's not a Jake Paul , he's not a Mr Beast . He's a lot better than that , in my opinion . So I think we need to be more calm . When people just say a joke on a podcast , come on , because we're gonna end up being the joke . You know what I mean . So , yeah , anyway , take care . This is the end of being the joke .
You know what I mean . So , yeah , anyway , take care . This is the end of my episode and let's see what I talk about tomorrow . But you know , stay safe and I'll catch you tomorrow and leave a comment Like this video . Make sure you do , okay , Namaste .
