¶ Enlightenment and Misinformation
Welcome to the Bearded Mystic Podcast with me , your host , rahul N Singh . So today it's been an interesting day today . I just went out for a walk and some of my hair's a mess Looks like I'm growing my hair . I don't even know what I'm doing with my hair . I'm going to get it cut at some point .
I need to get a haircut , I need to get a beard trim , uh , but anyway , enough about the name and form . So I think yesterday or maybe yeah , I think it was yesterday someone shared a video . It was someone who obviously is a follower of Sadhguru , but remember , this is not a criticism of Sadhguru , this is a follower that made a video .
But they made a video accusing Acharya Prashant of saying that Osho was not enlightened . Now , acharya Prashant did not say that . So I watched the video in which Acharya Prashant spoke about Osho and he said something that made complete sense .
Now I wonder if I had to speak to people who claim enlightenment and ask them you know , tell me the honest truth , is there anything such as anything you know called enlightenment ? They would probably tell me no . And Acharya Prashant's point was that for Osho to be relatable , he had to declare his enlightenment . He didn't really care about it .
And it's true , he doesn't even talk about it in his early talks at all . It's only when people are interested in the whole thing that he starts saying it , because he knows that's how to get people interested . And it's true , I see it on like youtube .
Whenever someone says that they're self-realized or they've had a non-dual awakening or they've they're enlightened , their channels blow up makes sense . I mean , if you're going to listen to someone , they must be far ahead on the journey .
And so Acharya Prashant made something clear that if you have something and you know it's another form of Maya , right , it's , you know , enlightenment . Think about it . Think about this logically Enlightenment is only relevant in the relative reality . In maya , at the liberated state , in the ultimate state , which we may call the absolute , does liberation even exist ?
There is enlightenment even . You know something that exists over there , and this was a point that he made . So obviously , people like to sensationalize , and so they were like oh , he said that Osho wasn't enlightened . The guy listened to Osho for years . He , I think for five years . He said he listened to Osho . He had a couple of cds and he played them .
I think I've read most English books of Osho's myself . It's interesting I've mentioned this before . Osho is the reason why he was the best help when it came to deprogramming A lot of my thoughts and he was the first exposure I had to being the witness . I never heard about being the witness before . It was or I may have , but I just never knew about it .
But he made it very clear . And then so today I was just listening to his Ashtavakra Gita , like the commentary , it's called the Mahagita and I don't know . As soon as I turned it on and I heard him speak , it just gave me goosebumps and actually kind of brought tears to my eyes . I mean , I'm tearing up now just thinking about it , recalling that memory .
That's just an appearance in consciousness , but that says something about someone's presence , even like a year , like years after he's passed away . And to think that a lot of people just knowing because of the , or they think of the , a lot of people just know him because of the Rajneesh Buram , or they think of the .
A lot of people from India think it's just about sex and all I knew of Osho was he's the first person that taught me how to be the witness and it was from him I got to know about Ramana Maharishi . It's because of him I got to know about Sri Ramakrishna , so I have a lot to be grateful for .
He's the first person , the reason why I knew J Krishnamurti and even Yuji . Yes , there's things where I kind of don't agree with Osho . His views on Swami Vivekananda I didn't agree with completely , but but that was his opinion of people . I took that as like . Whenever he talked about people I saw his gossip .
But when he came to like insights there was like I think he kind of knew that people liked the gossip . So if he said something bad about someone it got more people alert . But if he said something good about them , probably no one would really care about it .
But besides the point , acharya Prashanthji's thought and I would say insight was very powerful and like for years now I've been downplaying what I've attained because I kind of feel that one it's nobody's business .
But but also at the same time I'm like it means nothing , like genuinely I don't think I'm any different to anyone and if enlightenment makes you feel more superior or makes you more , that you think you're better than others , then I don't think that's enlightenment .
Not necessarily how I've experienced it , not necessarily how I've experienced it again I do believe that enlightenment can be blessed upon you . Yes , a lot of it's your own work , but I do believe grace and surrender has a lot to do with it . I remember the day I asked my guru for liberation while alive , jeevan Mukti . I remember that day very clearly .
I remember what happened that day Afterwards , the clarity that I got . I still remember it till now . It feels like it was just yesterday and maybe I was right until that point where I was saying I was not enlightened . I think I was right to say so . And what does enlightenment mean ? And is there degrees of enlightenment ?
This is the other thing , like when people say , oh , I'm this percentage enlightened or I'm more enlightened than you . You've totally missed the point on enlightenment , like how can you get it so wrong ? And it's not in degrees . You either get it or you don't get it . That's how it is .
For example , if I have a switch and it's not a dimmer switch , there's a normal switch and I turn the light on and off there's only two options for me on and off . Enlightenment is not a dimmer switch . Where it gets brighter , the mind will have its vasanas , it will have its tendencies , it will have all those that you continue to work upon and refine .
Sri Ramana Maharishi had them . Everyone has some attachment to the upon and refine . Sri Ramana Maharishi had them . Everyone has some attachment to the name and form to function . I remember that day .
I remember the hug that I got and I remember it just changing me , transforming me , and I don't know whether , look , someone can turn around and say my Guru didn't bless me , but I know something changed . There were things I was grasping that I wasn't able to grasp before . There was .
Those are just on the mental level , just at a moment , just abiding in awareness , without even any effort . That was the thing that was amazing . That was the thing that was amazing . Checking my desires and seeing how short-lived they are .
Yeah , everything just became like on the screen and I could just see everything thoughts , tendencies , like my vasanas , my samskaras , everything just on the screen presented and just detaching itself away my vasanas , my samskaras , everything just on the screen presented and just detaching itself away from consciousness , because and actually the crazy thing was it was already
detached from consciousness . I thought it was attached . This is the insight that's given . So when people and the reason why I want to make this one video very clear , like those people that say , oh , acharya Prashant said , stop spreading misinformation . Like if you don't understand Acharya Prashant , then don't talk about him . It made me think about .
I saw Artem's conversation with shiva and leo , but the second one although obviously me and artem have have a past , we we didn't get along , even though I didn't agree with everything he said in the second part of the interview , but there were some interesting insights that he gave too . You know , and um , again , my refining period .
I don't know if it's coming to an end , but like I kind't see even where artem is coming from and I don't know if he ever sees what where I'm coming from , but like I don't know if he still thinks I'm suffering or I'm a narcissist or whatever .
And and I think , and the main point I disagreed upon was , if I can recall correctly and it might not be an art him at all , but this is something I can talk about in general , but like , when people talk about there's a like a fine line between narcissism and enlightenment .
Again , where's this idea come from and whoever is spreading that idea is ridiculous , even to the point when people say there's still ego , like no , the ahamkara is just a function . Everyone has to have that function . It doesn't matter if you're enlightened or not . The ego will still exist as a function . You just don't identify that the ego is you anymore .
That's the only difference the identity is like . You're just that consciousness , as I mentioned before . That's beyond duality and non-duality , that absolute you're , in , that , if I may use that word , abode that no concept sticks on to . No , how can the ego even stick onto that ? It can't . So all these things , you know , in Vedanta we have four things .
You have the for the antarkana , the inner instrument , but the two that I wanted to talk about was you obviously have the ego , and then you also have citta , which is the memory , storage of memories . Even that detaches away .
You understand , it's just a story that you're telling yourself , that you've told yourself and that your body , body , mind has genuinely experienced , right , so it's not like it hasn't , uh , but it has .
Then you know all these things like , for example I used to find them so difficult to understand like how the waking , dreaming and deep sleep states and how consciousness is in the state and basically how consciousness is beyond those . I used to struggle with that bunch of kush . I used to struggle with that , the five sheets , the five coverings in vidanta .
Obviously I used to find that difficult to understand and I don't know . Like I said , after that day it all became clear to me , like what it meant , what it meant by living on the three levels of reality .
That just made sense to me as well , and so that's why I think I wanted to do the course , because there's nothing better , nothing more incredible than expressing the truth , getting people there and , most of all , just being aware of formless awareness . I think there's nothing greater than that , and I know words are going to be my concessions .
I know some of you may be like , come on , get rid of the concepts , but if , right now , if you can just be aware of formless awareness , it's so immediate , like even before I even have to say being aware of formless awareness , it occurs before the first word is uttered , before the first word is uttered .
That's how timeless it is , it's beyond time and it's not like that is separate from me , as in there's a separation . There's no separation there , there's no separation between me or anything in this existence . It's all one and the same consciousness .
When I say me , I'm not meaning like Rahul in this point , I'm talking about pure consciousness and , yeah , I wish everyone could experience this , I wish the whole world could . But it's true when Sri Krishna says only a few ever get it . And I see it . I understand why you have to be mentally ready for it .
And to be mentally ready for this means that you've got to be sincere in your development , in your pursuit , and that when it happens that you don't create another ego out of it , like there's no point in having an enlightened ego because then you've come back that means you never really had the transcendence .
The transcendence occurs when the ego is its identification , detaches from you and you just are able to rest in the awareness .
And my advice to everyone if you're on this journey and you're stuck just in the day once or twice , whether it's when you're stuck just in the day once or twice , whether it's when you're brushing your teeth , whether it's you're drinking your coffee , whether it's looking , you know , at your , your spouse or your partner or your children , if you're at work , just
take 10 seconds and just be aware , watch everything as an observer , and a detached observer that has nothing to gain or lose from what is being observed , and that's your first glimpse into what enlightenment is kind of like . It's a glimpse , not the complete thing , but it's a nice little gateway , you know , a little like .
You know you have a door that's slightly open and you can just see a little bit into the room . That's what it's like and he's just completely formless and it's . What's interesting is that this formlessness , it's just beyond words right now .
If it can you know , if you could see God face to face and then realize that actually you've been looking at the reflection since the very beginning . That's what it's like . That's what it's like
¶ Universal Enlightenment Journeys
hope . That made sense . I think this is a perfect way to end the episode . But yeah , anyone can be enlightened , anyone can get an awakening . Anyone can get nothing and you know what , for the enlightened person , all is well , all is well Truly , all is well truly . There's so much beauty that I could talk about right now , but we'll do it another time .
I hope you have a great weekend . I probably won't have an episode tomorrow , but if I do , I just want to say have a great day and just . I just want to say have a great day and Just Do that little practice of being the witness for a bit , being the observer , and let me know in the comments what you think . Let me know your views .
Let me know how it was practicing this . I would love to know . Okay , thank you , namaste .
