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little bit. What if we were there at the media day presser, right and you know what kind of questions will we really be asking, you know, as all of these teams get themselves ready, you know, for another exciting NBA season. So Sean and I are going to put on our journalistic hats, whip out our steno notebook notepads. You know, I don't have my pencil and journalists hat on there and stuff like that, but you can imagine it. It looks pretty fly. And we're gonna ask those tough questions
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throwing some questions out there and listen. These are kind of questions that I would hope that even you the listener would think about posing to some of these
players. And you know, these exactives and coaches or whoever is made available during media day for your favorite or if you're like someone who likes to troll your most hated team, the questions that you would like to be throwing out there to those dudes as well too, right Like, so this is the media day press the episode of the baseline, and the first question that I think if we were out in Portland Shaw right, Like, Let's say we
hopped into Hoopdi because you know, we were feeling like it's time for us to do road trip, right, we don't want to be messing with the frequent flying miles just yet. We hopped into Hoopdi, drove all the way up to the northwest of the United States out there in Portland, Land, and we decided to sit down in front of the Portland Trailblazer media. And I guess the question that really should be asked is will Damian Lillard be anywhere but where we are right now? In other words, we get there and
his presence isn't there? Are we gonna be playing in the world? Is Carmen Sandy Lillard right, we're Portland? That was a good strip. I tried to stress that one nicely. Or is he gonna stay put? Man? Are they gonna be steadfast and hold Damian Lillard down for as long as necessary? Well, let's go ahead and date ourselves a minute. We're gonna
say, I'm gonna give this answer. Things are going to move and change, But you know, I think, yeah, the question is, you know, will Dame be in Portland for the for the beginning of media day and then obviously throughout the course of the NBA season. You know, I think the Blazers have made it clear that they are not enamored with what the mind he'd have to offer, and you know, my guess is, you
know Dame will have to show up and play things out in Portland. We touched on this over the course of the summer and as many people did. But what I continue to maintain more than anything else is Lillard is not going to let his reputation take any more of a hit per se. He's not going to be the guys like, well, I asked for a trade, they didn't trade me, and I'm gonna just kind of hot dog it out
here, show up out of shape or give my all. Like He's just he's not really wired in that way and some of the way some of the players are. And I think, you know, he'll kind of grin and bear it, you know, and maybe something will ultimately bear fruit down the line for the Portland Blazers. Portland trail Blazers. But I think we will see Dame in Portland's come media day next week and you know, just maybe
with a little bit of a tute about it. But I think if he makes it to the preseason and ultimately games, I think he's going to be, you know, the good soldier that we know him to be. What are your thoughts, Well, I think that the timing is so richly important for us to understand that if the Portland Trailblazers were unable to figure out a way to move him at this point, then they're going to be, you know, pretty steadfast in holding him where he is, and even if it's
at the expense of Damian a little not suiting up to play. I think that you know, were Portland fans, they have already resigned themselves to the idea that Damian Lill no longer wants to be there. And I would if it were me, I would probably not I wouldn't care, right. That's not to say I would not want him out there on the basketball court. But let's be realistic. This is when entertainment and the business of basketball tend
to kind of muddle things up a little bit. If you're an entertainer, you want to be entertained and listen, there's no one better out there, you know, in the Western Conference, entertaining folks and giving us Dame time better than Damian Lillard. But if you're an avid, hardened Portland Trailblazer fan and you just want to get on with the business of the Portland Trailblazers moving forward, you don't need to see him out there on the basketball court because
I fail to see where he's going to benefit. He's going to be a benefit to Scoot Henderson, a benefit to Anthony Simon's, a benefit to use of Nurkics. Right. To me, I just gets a distraction. And so ultimately I think that if the parties handle it properly, Damien doesn't get all up in his fields about because this is that he drew the line anyway. He doesn't want to play for the Portland Trailblazers any longer. He wants
to be moved. He should respect the fact that this process is going to leak itself into arguably the beginning of the NBA season, probably almost up to the NBA trade deadline, right and that would mean sit it out and wait
and see what a team wants to do right. I will say, though, that the Portland Trailblazers will probably try to play hardball with Damien and say, listen, man, you either because obviously the NBA is telling Damien, Yo, you can't do this right like you can't be talking and throwing out innuendos to other teams, dictating and demanding who you do who the Portland Trailblazers should should not be speaking to. But Portland is like, Yo, you
better be accepted, be receptive to if the Philadelphia seventy six ers want to offer us something, if the the you know, I'll go crazy if the Boston Celtics were to offer something right, like, you better be receptive to other teams if it's a matter of putting him on the move and him just resisting to the idea of it. So I think he stays put because I
just don't see where they can make anything happen rushed. Portland has obviously tried a few times already to make something work with the Miami Heat, but clearly the intent here is that the Heat want to keep Bam and want to keep Butler and somewhere in there to Portland, Trailblazers don't see any assets outside of giving up one of those dudes if they're planning to give up Damian Lillard.
So the numbers are certainly working in Portland's favor to hold in steadfast. It's just a question of the respect factor that they're actually giving Damian Lillard on how he wants to approach this so he doesn't make himself look like, you know, the bad guy nor the martyr. And I think Portland fans as well too, should be ready to move on from this and not worry about whether or not he's going to suit up and be on that basketball court come tip
off. All right, Well, I'm gonna just hobble really quickly because I want to spend too much time. That's got a lot of questions. But your thoughts on it being anywhere else but Miami, per se, So Toronto is throwing their name into this hat. Now, Chicago, you mentioned Philadelphia as a potential suitor. Do you think any one of those teams outside on
Miami end up with Damian Lillard if he were to leave Porland. Absolutely, I think any of those other teams have just as good as chance, because I think if you think if you think, like Damian Lillard will probably think, this is probably not even more about money like it was for Kyrie Irving as much as it is him realizing that he'll probably have to do a stop gap, like you know, a stop gap another team before finally going to
where he wants to go. And it'll be interesting to see if a team or any teams are willing to pony up the money for a temporary murk for a possible run or deep run if they're in content tension or in position to do so. So that's my take on it. I don't see where Damian Lillard unless it's at the trade deadline and the Blazers and the Miami Heat do figure something out. I don't think that's gonna wind up being his destination. I think it's gonna be one of the other suitors out there that are really
gonna throw a much better package for Portland to consider. And I think Damien has to take that in consideration that he's not immediately going to go to Miami, but eventually we'll get there. The talk, the talk, the talk. We'll see your brother can't wait, all right? Next up, Shaw and I hop into HOOPTI and we make our way all the way back to the east coast. Probably do need to get into plane and start to start taking advantage of these frequent flyer miles. We're go on east coast, west
coast, bouncing back and forth. But anyway, we take our we take our sights down to Philly Shaw and the situation out there for Philly is a little tenuous at best. How uncomfortable is James Harden ready to get and will he appear at media day? Certainly he won't be appearing arm arm around, uh, you know, shoulder with Daryl Morey. But do you think he'll appear a media day? Yeah, So I think he's actually going to show up because in some ways there's the need to play good soldier for the aspect
of he's playing for a contract. So I think if he goes to the old hard and Shenanigans, if you will, despite however he feels about Morey at this particular juncture, it just plays into a more negative narrative for him, you know, in terms of him potentially getting his next deal. So it's in his best interest, like it is, like it ligally is in his best interest to appear and to be his best self, no matter how
disgruntled he actually is. So that's my take on it. You know, I think Harden is probably willing to you know, bet against me, you know, like, yeah, brochure, hold my beer. But if I'm his agents, I feel like you have to advise him in a way as like, listen, you said what you said, you did what you did, but understanding that you've finessed your way out of two situations over the last you know, eighteen months or whatever it was, from Houston and Brooklyn and
now into Philadelphia. Now this would be the third team that you're trying to move away from, and you're playing alongside the reigning MVP. It's just it's just not good optics. So he doesn't have the same value that he once had. And he's still a very good player and even an All Star level player. But I think he's got to show up to Philadelphia, be at
media day. Similarly, probably won't be as disgruntled, well maybe more discruntled than Dame will even be in terms of like how we answer this questions very very short. But I think he's going to be there, and I think he's going to go through the motions. Yeah, I think he's gonna be there. But when have we ever believed that James Harden never gave a damn about comfort James Harden. James Harden only needs to worry about James Harden,
Right, That's how he's operated, That's been his moo. And you know, it's interesting that as a basketball player this fits him perfectly, right because in a day of self marketing, nobody markets himself as the odd oddball, so to speak, or you know what I'm saying, the precariously gifted. You know, it's almost like it's almost like Harden has Kanye tendencies. There's
a genius to his game. Right, However, it only seems to translate his greatness and doesn't seem to translate in a resume that reflects someone who could be considered one of the greats of the game. He's definitely one of the greatest offensive players, especially from the South Paw, to ever play this game. But because he is always looking out for himself and look, that's a
decision that he makes. And unfortunately, he's dealing with an organization that struggles so mightily with handling players that have to take care of themselves before they take care of the team, And that's the biggest problem that that really exists, because you can see how it's festered and has become kind of a cancer to how players perceive what's been taking place, with the disappointing you know, exits during playoff runs, with the craziness that's taken place, with some of the
trades that have that have happened. If nothing else, I mean, James Harden is is kind of a truth sayer a little bit because he's exposing all of them. That's you know what I'm saying. I don't know whether or not he's infected them in that kind of way, but he's exposed to Ben Simmons of the world. He's exposed you know, even Tobias Harris, who probably was a nice, quiet guy until James Harden came aboard, and now
he's just they're all listen, all of them are catching it. Look, Tyree's Maxie is catching is is collateral damage because of this, right, and it's true, it's in all of it is because of James Harden. So you know, with that being said, come media day, everyone is going to be asking these questions to all of the players. And then when you ask James Harden. James Harden's gonna answer how James Harden answers you know what
I'm saying, and he is not gonna think twice about it. You're not gonna see him, you know, Quiver, You're not gonna see him second guess his statements or nothing like that. You know what I'm saying, because he don't care. You know, well, I think you know and you know the second part of this too, that you know I didn't add even to our show notes. But again not to spend too much time on this
topic, is what is Joel Embid going to say about this circle? Oh Joel, I'm actually looking forward to what Joel Embiid is gonna say, because you know, it only takes They're gonna be a part like they're gonna be
completely separate on the other sides of the court. Right, we can already see this, and then somebody is gonna ask James Harden a question once James Harden gives his sound bite, Guess who's scurrying his little ole ass over to the other side to get a retort of sorts, right, which you definitely
come from James, up from Joel Embiid and let it and listen. We've seen Joel Embiid not sugar cote anything he has to say about players that he doesn't really care for, you know what I'm saying, And he may say it jokingly, but you know he is dead serious. So I don't think
there'll be any jokes about this one. And I'm again all of what's happening in Philadelphia's media day, new coach and Nick Nurse coming into the fold and you know his previous equips against Joel Embiid and now having to manage a harder situation. I think that's going to be one of the more spicier ones to come to watch when we get to October. Second Family, absolutely your tuned
to the baseline. Calie Warrents Shaw discussing the hot button topics of the NBA and this is our pressure media day birding questions that we are kind of listening out. They were soliciting out there for you guys to take take take notice on what we were expecting to hear, what we would expect to hear from if we were at media day, you know, for a lot of these teams, and what questions we would pose, you know, to the organizations.
All right, Shaw so let's let's shift our folks us now to Milwaukee. Right, this is probably the first time, like you know, we we we've been spoiled. Right, Jannis at Ducoumpo is probably the most well rounded individual as far as his ability to articulate, to show the passion that he has for the game, that he loves playing the team that he plays for. It's amazing to me Shaw that when we talk about Yannis, rarely
will we ever talk about Jannis saying something controversial. But it's interesting because this past season he's he's said a couple of things it's kind of made you like, is he really like in his fields right now? Like is there something like not right about where what's going on over there in Milwaukee? Is he
you know what I'm saying, is he feeling some kind of way? And obviously with the pre agency question that was posed to him and now how his response was, does it feel like Jannis is precluding a possible exit from Milwaukee? So he's got to be asked about, right, you know, I think he his comments came out in an article that had really nothing to do with basketball. I think it was about his his business and stuff like that
too. And it just kind of meandered into the Milwaukee Bucks conversation, and you know, he says what he says, and it's like, hey, well, you know, I need to be committed and they need to be committed to me. And I can't promise that I'll be here forever if I don't feel like that commitment is you know, is duplicated, if you will, and again paraphris paraphrasing to some degree, but Janni says, one of the preminent, pre eminent grates that the Bucks have ever had brought that team,
you know, a championship. It's really interesting to kind of see how he's maneuvering here now and leaving that door open for just doubt you know that he would be back. And we understand, you know, financially, he's not going to sign his ext mentions and all those things because he can make more money as a TV money continues to rise than so larger percent of the
cap. That all makes sense, but the aspect of potentially leaving Milwaukee, and people have been wanting him to go to other markets for a very very long time, I think since the last time we had this rodeo. You know, when when his free agency or sorry, his contract extension wasn't was in question. I think he's going to downplay that. I think he's going to walk it back a little bit to not be a distraction because I think he sees what it's kind of cost here in the short term, you know.
But if he doesn't, if he doubles down, then it's going to be a very, very wild and controversial season. I think in Milwaukee again new coach and Adrian Griffin, they re uped and Brook Lopez re uped on Chris Middleton. Drew Holiday is going to be up for an extension here pretty soon as well too. It just puts so much pressure on that team to
feel like they have to win now, and they do. But I think it's something different when he's putting the pressure on them, is like, Hey, I'm gonna leave y'all, I'm gonna piece out on y'all if things don't go go a certain way as opposed to play let's play the season now and let's just try to focus on winning basketball. So here's where I think there's a difference between how Jannie would probably handle this situation and how say Lebron would
handle this situation. Lebron James, knowing that any decision that he makes, any thoughts that he gives, a perspective that he provides, all of that is weighed so heavily right he has he has earned that equity right within any organization that he plays for. And so his word is golden. And I feel like what Janice alluded to and spoke of was something that allows him the ability and maybe we see it. I don't know. I'm just saying from
my perspective. To me, it gives off this air that he believes he's in a space is very similar to Lebron James, that he's commanded that level of respect from the Milwaukee Bucks organization. And so when you make those type of pronouncements, whether it was intentional or accidental, right, and organizations act upon that, you have to own what will be I guess the fallout should
you not succeed. Right now, we don't look at it in that perspective, And if this is as a media day, I would be interested to see if someone would would challenge him in that regard because of what now he is in a way has initiated. Right like, even though he's made these statements now Shaw Let's not act like he has not had a very heavy influence on the decisions that the Milwaukee Bucks have made the last couple of seasons and
seen how quickly they have fallen short from getting more than one championship. And you have to wonder if a person like Janis, who is arguably one of the best players in basketball, if not the best player in basketball from a talent perspective, if someone like Nicola Yoki's usurps him one chip over. You know what I'm saying, what are we now talking about like for a guy like Jannis, what is that going to say about him and how he handles
things? We're gonna say, awesome guy to play, to put on our team and help win a championship, But under no circumstances should his voice lend to how an organization should operate in a window of where winning needs to be at a very high level simply because of how he comes off or how he
is he's dictating in the making these type of demands. And I find that to be the interesting aspect of this with with Jannis is that I'm not discrediting anything that he has done and accomplished up to this point, but these type of statements kind of lend itself to say, We'll hold up a second,
what is the Milwaukee Bucks done since twenty twenty one? Right? And so you're saying that now if they if they're if the organization isn't doing enough for you to win, it means that you may have to go somewhere in which they're they're gonna put their stand for winning. Well, look at what the team had to commit to for what they thought is what you needed to win. So now you're telling us differently. See, Lebron never put himself in
that type of situation. He may have said I want to play with these guys because he trusted them, but he's never said, oh, you know, the organization was never doing enough for me when he knew that they gave him exactly what he wanted and it was up to him to deliver on those goods. Yeah, I mean, I think it's all about framing, right. So you know, if if if Yannis is gonna go down this path knowing kind of the things that you alluded to, it's cost them multiple draft
picks. They did get a chip out of it, right, But it's like you know, the old added, well, what have you done for me lately? Right, Well, there's no but there's no more picks to give away. You know, the cupboard is kind of bear there, and so it's a matter of, you know, how can you continue to cultivate
the team in a way and bring them up to the level. But there are they are getting older as well, and so I think, you know, Yannis, and we'll not Yanna. Sorry, Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday on the other side of thirty here, there's some real questions here about how they're going to move forward. Brook Lopez, same thing on the other side of the thirty. They're wrong side of thirty. So we'll see, you
know what, what ends up happening. But I am intrigued by the fact that he did come out here and make these statements, and like I said, I want to see he does he double down on media day and say, yeah, I meant what I said, I'm gonna staying tentoes down on this thing, or as like, let's just you know, let's put that behind us here. I just want to focus on winning and ship. Yeah.
The only other thing I will say this as well too, is let's not let's not also, you know, overlook the fact that Milwaukee I think he's missed on some opportunities for them to And again, maybe part of it is because of the pressure in inflicted by Yannis, whether it be you know, accidental or intentional of his desire to keep the team, to keep the core of the team as is. But you could clearly see that the Milwaukee Bucks I think had a couple of opportunities where they could have made some type
of moves to be able to kind of make this a long a longer term, open the window up for a longer term for the Milwaukee Bucks, even if it may have been to the immediate pleasure of Janis's desire to keep the team as is, if it's about them continuing to win and continuing to compete, you know, you look at the dynamic of that team and you say to yourself, can they can they? Can they you know, get over
the hump knowing that Father time is not on their side. You know for some of these players as well too, like Middleton and you know, maybe even brook Lopez. You know what I'm saying that they have to get better at certain places, and I don't know if they left themselves room to be able to do that. Your tuned to the baseline. Calie Warrenshaw discussing the hot button topics of the NBA. Coming up, we'll get more into some burning questions. Man. We got one out for the for the new or
least Pelicans and Zion. You know what I'm saying. You know, listen, Zion is Zion is doing his thing? Chris Paul in Golden State they doing? Are they gonna be? Is he gonna be doing his thing out there in grizzly Land? John Morant, You know what I'm saying, He's gonna be. He's gonna be missing the thing. But when he comes back, will he be that thing? So there's like a lot of questions that we want to get out there. We got a lot of places to travel
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for your patronage. Coming up more Burning Questions here on the Baseline, we are back Callie Warrenshaw Baseline, NBA Podcasts and our episode of the part of the show this week is Media Day Burning questions, Like, if we were actually there during Media Day at all of these locations, what questions will we be posing to the organization and players alike? So the next team that we want to you know what I'm saying, make our way out too, is
out in New Orleans. Obviously, Zion has had quite the interesting offseason so far. I don't know what to say about where we are with the New
Orleans Pelicans when this is all said and done. But if we were actually their shaw, I think the question that we would want to ask him is are you ready to put the summer well beyond well behind you and really answer the tough questions that need to be answered about one your availability and two if whether or not this is your year, your year to take onus of this basketball team and put him in places that a lot of people are hoping and
praying for, especially out of the NOLA. Yeah. I think a lot of what you know, we're going to get the answer to parts of the questions just by I think his overall physical appearance, right, you know, does he look trim, you know, chiseled for for what he is, and does he is he taking his diet and nutrition seriously? Right? We're starting to see some of that in the court of the course of summer.
But all that drama drama that he had going on, you know, with the you know, the stripper that he was courting, and however you want to phrase that, I'm just gonna take. So he was in, you know, some sort of situation ship, you know, with the young lady, and you know, the he was in something. I don't know if it was a relationship, but he was in something, I said, a situation ship. So he was in a situation ship with that young lady.
And yeah, that caused a lot of drama for him. So was he able to put that to the side right focus on basketball where she accused him blatantly of not ever really being able to do And then he started to see that even some of his teammates like, listen, he seems like he quit on them, and so there's some mending offenses that needs to happen there. And I think, if you're in the media for the Nuance Pelicans media day
again, how does he look? And then the questions of like, how are you now mentally ready as well as physically ready to kind of put a dramatic summer, a bad season really behind you and contribute to a team that
had so much potential. You forget they were in first place right in mid December, and we're like Yo, this team is coming out of nowhere, and he was playing at a high level again and Ingram was still in and out of the lineup, and he was really seeming like he was going to be able to carry that roster and then it just like as it always seems to do, it just goes away because of all the injuries that he continues
to suffer. This is a roster that really needs him to be a leader on this team, and not necessarily in the locker room sense, but definitely on the floor in terms of producing and giving up big numbers that he's very much capable of. So what do we say? Shaw has been the you know, the number one theme when it comes to a lot of these superstars and the expectations of what they're supposed to bring an organization and a fan base.
Right, the best ability is availability, and that's just really what it comes down to. But I'm going to flip this because you really, you interestingly alluded to the one aspect that I think should actually be at the forefront. I think this ability that he needs to really make sure is on point with lends to the physical ability, right, his mental ability, Like what I'm saying is him being completely focused on playing basketball, right, all of
these other things that are going on. Listen, there's tons of players out there that have all kinds of craziness. I mean, you just don't find out about it because they do really do a good job of keeping that stuff under wraps, you know what I'm saying. Or they're just so damn good that even whatever the drama looks like, you can completely tell it does not phase them. Right. One thing that I lend to what I think about
this Shaw Kobe Bryant. Think about the drama that Kobe Bryant really inflicted upon himself, right, and part of that was just lack of maturity. But when you listen to him talk, when you listen to him, you know, answer questions, when you see how he acts when he goes on, you can completely tell there's a jekylin Hide effect. He knows how to separate Kobe that wants to play from Kobe the man about the business of playing and
winning championships for the Los Angeles Lake, right. And that's unfortunately something that a lot of these young players just seem to either lack or don't really understand, or have not taken the time to properly understand, and Zion falls right into that fold. His mental focus needs to be about the game of basketball. If the if the New Orleans Pelicans believe that the expectations for them to win a championship cannot be done without him him being on that basketball court.
So it's as simple as this. If he's still addressing nonsense that's off the court and not the stuff that's really on the court, it doesn't matter how physically chiseled he is. It doesn't matter if he dropped one hundred and fifty pounds or if he's like looking like you know, Ronnie Coleman, you know
what I'm saying. On the basketball it doesn't matter because it will mean nothing because for him to get through the season, he has to be mentally locked in in order for the New Orleans Pelicans to have a serious shot at making a deep run into playoffs, let alone this idea about them being a possible contender for some type of championship. I mean, that's what it all stems
down to you. So ironically, there's another person in you know, his drift class that you know we are going to be worried about, well, you know how his mental state is going to be coming in and when he
gets back as well too. So a Zion has a lot to figure out, as do the Pelicans in terms of how they want to bring him back into the process of their team and what maturation has been able to show again after what was a very very strange and odd season and they only got worse and exacerbated by you know, some of the summer drama that he experienced.
And I got to say this as well too, Shaw. One thing that I'm I would probably expect Zaia not to you know, this media day, So of course you got to be out there through out the smiles, kiss the babies and all the other good stuff. But I would expect him to say less, right, I want him to say less. I think the
less you say, the more focused I think you are. Because some of these guys love to eat them loves love them else being in that camera, love themselves, getting that seeing that digital flash, love getting those clicks.
If you are are someone who's like yes and I'm about the business of the business, and you leave it at that, I think most of the guys in the media realize that they need to give you your space and give you the requisite time necessary for you to really get comfortable being the guy that everybody is hoping that you'll be. And I say that even from your teammates perspective.
So it'll be interesting to see what version of Zion Williamson comes out there, because when he when he smiles and cheeses all this stuff, all I keep thinking of myself is Yep, another injury. Yep. You know what I'm saying, not gonna make it through the season, association, I'm gonna let you ride with me, let me ride with it. I'm just cordible, and it's quotable doesn't mean right. No, What I'm just basically saying is is that sometimes we get consumed with the obligations of being that guy,
being that personality, and we don't take care of the necessary. Sometimes you gotta be an a hole in order for you to make sure that you get what needs to be a common and then you can go back to being nice to people. But everybody wants you to stay nice because they're getting what they need from you, which is more questions about who you are and what you're
It just gives him reason to hang around you. But I think the less that you give him that look at look at Kobe Bryant and the way he got after that situation in Denver. Right, he made sure that he like basically inoculated himself from trying to be the Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers showtime personality, front face type of guy and suddenly became the black Mamba, as they say, you know what I'm saying, Like, he became the black Mamba
because he shut all of that stuff down and he made everyone see first the business of him winning for the Los Angeles Lakers, and I think a lot of people respected him for that, even though that that part of his life still hung over him until he started showing him that he was a family man and he was about being a girl, a girl dad and all the other kind of stuff. So all right, let's move forward because we got another dude we gotta call out on this craziness was too But first we got to
go to Golden State. And obviously the big move of Chris Paul going to Golden State, and we thought it was a prank. We thought, all right, so where's the next destination Chris Paul's going to? Because you know this can't be actually the last, the last stop or the final destination for him. But low and behold, as we sit here, Shaw, no movements have been made. So Golden State is dug all in on CP three being a part of this run, possible last run that the Golden State Warriors
are gonna make. Is Chris Paul prepared to come off the bench in Golden State or is Golden State prepared for Chris Paul to come off the bench? Yeah? A great question. I think that you know, he has been asked. I think formally it's been litigated in the media almost that nauseum over the course of the over the summer, and you know, there's a lot of Warrior faithful feel like, listen, yeah, bro, just just go ahead and do that. You don't need to be in this starting lineup.
You can reserve your body as well to play with that second unit on a team that may not need what he can offer in that first unit, and he might be better serve getting the commingas of the world and getting them shots, you know, by virtue of his potentially a play creation there. So I think it's gonna be a interesting question. We've seen him in the summer here now working with Draymond and some others as well to trying to build some
report and chemistry. There was some engling that needs to be done from when they were, you know, opponents on opposite teams. But I'm very interested to see what's going to happen there and how he handles that. And I think he's not going to give us the carmelo whom. I think he's going to be like, whatever the team needs us to do, needs me to do, I'm willing to do that. So I'm going to take a positive light on this here as Chris Paul joins a team that has obviously won four
championships. Look, man, at first, I wasn't really understanding the logic of this move by the Golden State Warriors. And then, you know, after seeing you know, and rewatching some of Chris Paul play, I can understand why this move had to be done. You know what I'm saying,
I really genuinely understand why this had to be done. I don't know if whether or not this was overall the best move for Golden State, but if you're gonna make a move, certainly make sure that you make a move that I think shakes the dynamic up a little bit and really kind of changes the mentality, you know, of what this team needs to be comprised of,
if there isn't a real expectation that they're gonna make or run. Like you could see, the last couple of years of Golden State have been making experimental moves, experimental trades, and they've not panned out this one. You really can't. You can't fail at this one because the player himself will refuse to fail. The player himself can morph into whatever it is you ask of him
because he just wants to win. And as much as people dislike Chris Paul for that, it's the very same reason a lot of people respect him for that as well too. And if you're gonna have two bulldogs in the pit, I probably would rather have those bulldogs on my side of the pit than at each other. So with Draymond and CP three, you know, Curry and Tom sending a CP three, Yeo, man, that's a lot of pit bulls, you know what I'm saying. They all got a lot of
grievances, they all got a lot of attitude, so to speak. With the way that the Young Movement has operated in space, I want to see if whether or not Chris Paul can exactly you know, can exude that, you know, against his former team in Phoenix. I want to see if whether or not he can exude that against you know, some of the other teams that the Golden State Warriors have some issues with, like against the Memphis Grizzlies, you know what I'm saying, or maybe the Sacramento Kings. So
it'll be interesting to see where Chris Paul fits himself. But listen, let it not be said, it don't take much for Chris Paul to be a part of the you know what I'm saying, all of the Shenanikans that go on, because he himself is full of those things. Right, So this might actually play itself out well for Golden State. Whether or not that translates to them being a top three, top four team in the Western Conference,
who knows. But I like the idea that he can do he can he can morph himself into being a valuable asset to the Golden State Warriors, rather than the Warriors investing so much of trying to morph these young guys that they thought could do that and they just never pan. Now, yeah, let me just say this really quickly. I think a lot of it is like coming off the tenor of how they started last year. If he comes in
here with a negative attitude. Now, again, it's not going to derail their season in the way that a punches, you know, to another teammate, but again, they just don't want to have another beginning to their season where there's drama involved. So if he's like, Hey, whatever they need me to do, whether that's come off the bench or I'm going to start whatever that is, and I think Kurd's gonna have to define that role pretty
quickly. So the question really should be two parts, you know, to Steve Kerr and Chris Paul kind of about what that role definement ultimately is going to because they just need to get off to a good start after their whole
season being derailed by that punch with Draymond and Jordan Pool last year. All Right, man, I listen, I might throw a little foreshadowing out there to you because you know, we may we may wind up doing our awards previews, be on the lookout for Chris Paul being a six Man of the Year. But I mean it's a that's a real possibility, a real possibility to accept the role there's a real possibility there. All right, your tune
to the baseline. Callie Warren's y'all discussing the hot button topics of the NBA, continuing our episode of the Media Day Burning Questions. So Shaw out in Memphis? Yeah, uh, sometimes I wish he did, you know what I'm saying. He leaned on Hailey silas Sei for some pure guidance, you know, for some of the foolishness that he didn't put himself through. But listen, it is what it is. He's had to, you know what
I'm saying, swallowed a bitter pill. You know, obviously the Memphis Grizzlies are gonna have to, you know, play essentially a quarter of a season, more than a quarter of a season without him. So what do we make of this Shaw? If you're the Memphis Grizzlies, how do you allow John Morant back into the facility? And you know, Kenny men Bridges and
let me throw this out there. You know as well too, we've already seen out in baseball, right with Fernando Tatis Junior with the nonsense that he pulled and in leaving his team, you know, hanging when they had an opportunity you know, to make a World Series run last year and how it impacted, you know, the dynamic of this baseball team to such an extent that even though when he came back, you know, this Padre's team still
wasn't in sync. There's always talent, you know what I'm saying. Talent is everywhere, but what you do with that talent and what that talent translates to to the other guys that you have to play with and four and I think makes all the difference in the world or whether or not people really buy into the sincerity of you coming back and really being about this organization and being about the team, whether or not you just bullshocking and jiving. Yeah,
now real talk. And I think what's going to happen here is like I would be mildly surprised if we see Ja in any capacity at me to day and even understanding the terms of the suspension right because I believe it's the NBA who was spending them and not the team. So is he can he even be in the facility and media day? I don't think that's a possibility.
But when does he have the ability and rights who start ramping back up coming around as teammates, you know, men in those bridges in person in the facility, because I'm sure you can see them off the quarter and whatever the various spaces, restaurants where the case may be, you know, but can
he come back there? And I think we probably won't see Jaw in the actual facility until about a month before he's due back, right, So if he's due back sometime in December, sometime in Novembers, when he's probably start ramping back up and even practicing with the team to some degree preparing for his return, assuming he's done everything that he's needed to do from the NBA standpoint
and even the team standpoint. But I would be maybe even more than mildly surprised if we see him on October two in the facility in any capacity, because I am sure that he's going to stay away from the media and asking questions. But I think just even being there to work out, I don't
think they're gonna allow him back in just yet. Yeah. So look, they're gonna the Memphis, the Remphiss Grizzlies are going to pull out you know, how to Shield our Star Player playbook, and they're gonna follow it to a t and I just think it's such an it's not a good thing for the Memphis Grizzlies. I just, I genuinely think that sometimes quality players need to learn the hard way about how quickly they need to mature and how they need to own the situation for what it is, for what it's worth.
You know, if John Morrand wants to come back to that facility, if you are the Memphis Grizzlies, I think the Memphis Grizzlies should be like, you need to earn the right to come back to this facility, right, if you really think about it, John Morant did two things that were really, really foul. The first thing that he did is he did all of this nonsense and then in public on public television, basically lied to everybody that he, you know, has mental problems and took a you know, went
on a sabbatical and did all of these things. He was bsen, Right, do you lie to do You lied to the to the quote unquote the NBA faithful, which can be a bitter pill to swallow, because if you don't live up to the hype, if you don't live up to the standards that you said, everybody's gonna call you out all the time. But the other big thing that he did is he lied to the organization, the very
organization that put Jenkins out there. The ownership is out there, all of these media people, PR people are out there speaking on your behalf, and you're running around doing some nonsense that's is contrary to what it is that they're
speaking to. I just believe if you're the Memphis Grizzlies, and look, I understand if your team is down, if you're so many games, you know, out of playoff contention, or you know, you realize that you know this run may actually be a real run, and you obviously feel like John Morans a person to get you over the top, You're gonna basically suck it up. You're gonna compromise, and you're gonna allow him to come back into the facility. And in essence, you know, it's gonna act as
if you know nothing ever occurred. Me. I just lent myself to the idea that you lie to my this organization, like this organization is giving you everything at this point, right, we gave you everything you needed, we give you everything you wanted, and even then still we're still trying to protect you. You need to do right by us for a change, you know what I'm saying. And so I want to see if whether or not the Memphis Grizzlies really do do that, because I think that's the only way a
person like John Morant will properly understand the magnitude of his actions. It can't happen, you know, just because we're following the NBA protocol of how we allow superstar athletes to get in trouble, to come back in and just act as if everything is good and everything is on the norm. It's really the organizations and the way that they lay this out and make sure that they hold
that player's feet to the fire. And I think a lot of it as well too is whether the players are on board with that as well too, Like that should be a question should be posed, like do you want John Morant just walking up in here like everything is all good and he can just assimilate himself again, like like nothing ever happened. Or do you make him earn that respect, like he needs to earn that respect in the locker room, earn that respect on during practices, earn that respect or in the team
dinners and on the team flights and things of that nature. I would love to see if whether or not an organization holds a guy like John or Rant to that kind of high account. Well, again, not to believe it. I would just you know, only maybe not even challenge, maybe somewhat you know, kind of just you know, we have to quit quit him into some degree. I don't know that we can say that he he lied
about whatever his mental issues may have been and what his state was. We can't say that he lied about that, and I think there's some evidence that would lend to that, you know, to maybe make us not believe that. Well, let me, I'm sorry, unequivocally, let me correct that part. Shaw. I didn't mean to say it as saying he lied about his mental state. I meant to say he lied about addressing his mental state. In other words, he said that he went and did what he did,
and everybody knows that that's not what really happened. Right. He just basically said what was necessary to get himself back on the basketball court and to not basically look bad in front of the people who obviously hurt or you know, created this level of distrust from and that's all that it was. He didn't want to get in trouble. He already lied to Adam Silver, Right, I think you're lying to Adam Silver is one thing. Yeah, he's gonna do what he does. But you lye into Jenkins, you lie into
the organization. You essentially lied to your teammates faces. You know what I'm saying, Like they're they're hoping more so for your well being, that you're taking care of what you need to take care of, and you're not even doing that. So what is that saying to you to your teammates, Right, That's what I'm saying, Like you're giving them undue stress and things to
focus on. It they shouldn't have to focus on because they were relying on the fact that when you said that you were gonna go handle it, you didn't go handle it, you know. And so that's what I mean when I was trying to explain that part of it, right, brother, Fair enough? All right, your tune to the base slide Callie Warren Shall discussing the hot button topics of the NBA. We got the last part of our media day burning questions to throw out at you got some good stuff on the
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Man. We've been making it work man, throwing out all of these these interesting questions that we would want to ask the organizations or teams or players for that matter, during NBA Media Day. And so let's go ahead and set our sights out in Phoenix. Shaw Obviously the big move of the Phoenix Suns getting Bradley Beale adding them, you know, adding to the roster. Will Bradley Beale be a primary playmaker for the Phoenix Suns? Now? I would
not ask that question to Bradley Beal. I would ask that question to Kevin Durant because I want to see how smart you know, how how smart? Asked of an answer, he would like to like to throw a response back at me for even posing that question. I mean, but but that's that's what they're saying, right, He's going to be the guy. And he did spend some time at Point in Washington like some seasons ago, primary playmaker
and shot creator for himself as well. But now with Booker and kd you know on the wings, hey, is he going to be the one who's going to distribute on a regular basis. And it could be argued that both Booker and Durant actually have better or more natural playmaking skills. So I think that the fact that this has come out somewhat a little bit is really the
reason why we want to even question this aspect. It's all right, is it really going to be Beal who can play create, so to speak, but is probably still better, you know, coming off the ball and pain downs and spoting up to some degree, but he is he does have a little ability to create for himself. I think it's over amplified or the way it was in Washington when he had to kind of be the play creator for others as well. And I obviously know Booker and Durant or elite, but
I think they're more natural at it. But at the end of the day, they're also better scores than he is too, so I guess, you know, by default he kind of has to take a lesser role and he won't be a twenty five pin point per game guy, but maybe he's a twenty two twenty one point per game guy and getting six seven eight assists a night. But it's interesting because I think Booker and Durant can also do some of those things, So how will they share the load when it comes to
playmaking duties in Phoenix. Yeah, I think this is going to be a very interesting question through the course of the year. And it's funny shall because I think people are going to look at that question and think translate wins in order to determine that answer, when I think what you really should want to look at is who should be the person you know with the rock in crunch time? You know who is the person that you want to make the initial
run so that the Suns are separating themselves from whoever they're playing against. And I think it all still comes back to Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. While Bradley Beale, I think is a great player. I wonder if whether or not this version and what version that comes out playing next to both of these guys, what version of Bradley Beale is going to emerge, and so whether it's be someone that you're saying should be a primary playmaker or maybe he tests
to turn himself into a primary primary play crea yater. My question has always going to be is for Bradley Beale, will he be at the maximum level of whatever version the Son's need of him in order for them to have this
trifecta that they formed. And it'll be interesting to see if that happens, because I personally believe when you look at Bradley Beale's career, and I think he's had an extraordinary career given the circumstances, I don't think he's ever really done anything so like extremely well, you know what I'm saying, Like he does things great right when he had opportunity to really, you know, elevate himself to such a level, well beyond that of John wall for example,
he really only elevated himself to so much, and partly because of the fact he couldn't stay healthy, but mainly because of the fact that, like his ascension for shooting the basketball was more gradual, like he shoots the basketball well, but for someone like who he was, and when he came out of the University of Florida, we were expecting him to be something shooting the basketball, very Klay Thompson esque, you know what I'm saying, Not Curry,
but Clay Thompson, Dame lillardesque, right, And I don't think that he does that even on that level. I think he's the next tier below that, And so it'll be interesting to see what the Sons are gonna do in order to put him in a position where he could be that kind of shooter where he could be that kind of score, because I think that's what the Sons are gonna ultimately need. So I'm very interested to see how long they're gonna stick to this idea that they want to make him the primary playmaker.
But if they suddenly realize that his shooting isn't as quite on point as what they're hoping that should be, well, guess who's gonna wind up taking those shots again, Devin? And then what are you gonna do with Bradley Beale? He ain't coming off the bench. He's gonna have to learn how to facil to take that basketball to the guys who can go out there and get those buckets a lot easier than Bradley Beal. Will Wow, you are doomsday to hear my guy. I mean, think about it from this standpoint.
So Bal has been averaging, you know, over five assistant game for the last you know, four or five seasons. So even so he had two seasons in a row he was over thirty. Then he dropped down into twenty three and twenty three the last couple of years or whatever the case, but still five six assists. So that's where I understand why they're trying to potentially
do it, but also think about the teammates he played with. While you know, last year Kuzma and Porzingez, you know, we're probably some of the better teammates that he's had in terms of running mates, and in recent years now you have Vin Kevin Duranta and Devin Booker. So shots for him are going to be easier because the gravitass of those two guys are immense,
So he'll get better looks and obviously shouldn't improve his efficiency. So I think we may say similar numbers even from even last year at Washington twenty three and six, twenty three and five, whatever it is, but with like very very high efficiency that would probably speak to what you are talking about here now.
So if you can get back into and he shot fifty percent last year, so you know, if you can get back into that fifty two percent, you know, as a guard, as a lead guard, if you will hand in the basketball, that will make PHENI is extremely dangerous because again the gravity of Duran and Booker are so immense that I think Booker is poised to have a very very great statistical and even more importantly efficient year for the Phoenix Suns if you said if okay, I did. Sorry, I was
leaning a lot more into my doomsday mentality. All right, sew which youth movement is ready to make a leap? Bancero's Magic or Kade's Pistons. We're trying to, you know, meet the teams in the middle here. You know, we obviously can't be in Orlando and Detroit at the same time. So yeah, so this is this is a baseline media day question because if we can't ask Paula or you're gonna be better than Kade? And Kad? Are you gonna be better than Polo? We just we just we'll just we'll
use what is it must? What is that X must? You know, I think it's a great question. Both of these teams I think are young, A lot of young talent on their roster. I'd say only by virtue
of what we saw last year because they were healthier. Is Orlando is probably a slightly ahead of where the Pistons are, But you know, I think it's it's a question that if you were to ask you to one of them, they both got to feel like they're worth their sault, especially with Detroit having new coach in tow bogdanovinch in here for a second year, obviously Kid
coming back, Jade and Ivy only to potentially get better. But I think on the Magic side, you know, their draft picks and then obviously getting Jonathan Isaac back if he's you know, even really gonna play wind, they'll Carter and obviously By and Carrol. These are two really really great basketball teams, young basketball teams that are are really really ready to come from the bottom of the Eastern Conference here and try to fight their way into the at least
in playing game. I think both of these teams have that level of talent if they can be healthy throughout the course of the season. But I don't even know which one to pick because I think, you know that they are probably equal to me, and I'd be interested to see kind of what the
Vegas Oz are in terms of they're over unders. I think Paul Paul Bancio would be very confident in believing that the Magic are ready to take that next step, and I think Kade will believe that you know, both you know, you know, with his let him leading the Pistons, that they're gonna you know, take you know, tremendous trides. You know, to quote unquote upset the Apple card a little bit right now. So I like it.
I like the idea of the confidence that both of these teams are going to have with these players, given what they've been doing, you know, especially in the off season and the work that they put in to really put people on notice that you know, they are going to be the next They're going to be the future, the next generation. You know of the hybrid score from the wing position. Again, you know, it kind of fell off, but now you're seeing a resurgence with Boncero and with Kade Cunningham and
what they can bring to the table. So I'm liking the idea of what that means. And I think ultimately I like the the the pistons. I think that there's more able bodies that have more definitive roles that Monty can work with. And I think as long as Kade is healthy, Monty is gonna's gonna hone in on what he've already he's already seen from Kade, who I think, by leaps and bounds, is like in a really great position to
make his team overall better. I think Bonchero is going to be shouldering a lot of the burden of, you know, putting the ball in the basket and doing a lot of other things, and I think the rest of the team is going to have to catch up with him in order to be on
that level that he's on already. But they do have a really good team, and it just I hope that they the players don't get lost in that fabric of playing under Banchero or the game going through Bonchero, because they really do have some quality players that I really think they can elevate and possibly create their own trifecta sort of speak, or even a deep team with the type of talent that the Magic has kind of had, you know, roaming around
over the last couple of seasons. But whether or not it all comes together, I think really is going to depend on the leadership skills for both of those players. Final question Shaw for our for our listeners, and also for our version of Burning Questions of Media Day. Is this the year of MPJ or are the Nuggets true Big three? Yokich, Murray and Aaron Gordon.
This is definitely a you question. I'm gonna go ahead and throw it to you first man, what are your thoughts on MPJ because you seem to be a little fixated on my guy here, and you know what he's abable or what he's capable of doing, and what he's not capable of doing within that system. You're ask me this when we did their autopsy as well, and I was just like, well, they want a chip, So I think
he's got to just continue to do what he does. You know, even with Bruce Brown out, I just don't really see why he has to try to do too much. Well, I don't think it's a question of doing too much, but I do think it's a question of the team relying on MPJ, you know, to take his game and you're really to to to make it, you know, full front center. You know, another dimension that makes arguably the best basketball team because they won the championship again coming into
this year, to be the best basketball team, right. The one interesting part of this show, and the reason why I threw the question out more so, was because if you look at the way that the Nuggets are set up, you've got really two offensively explosive players and this one dude who suddenly has become such a sound, defensive, versatile player in Aaron Gordon. And look, Mike Malone was a defensive mind, the type of guy, right, but he understands the kind of tools that he has in his toolbox to
work with. So I think it's allowed him to be patient with MPJ, especially over the last couple of seasons. And I just wonder if now we've seen MPG win a chip, Yokich win that chip, Murray win that chip.
Does he rely on the fact that, you know, for this team dynamically to still be at the top of the food chain, are you going to lean a lot more into what MPJ is going to bring to the table to compliment Yokich and Murray Or do you like the idea that he can still be in the shadows right and just mainly be about what Yokis, Murray and Gordon were able to show people in their run to winning that championship, And so I like the idea of Gordon, But I do think that this could
be the year of MPJ where people really start taking note as to what this guy can be as a mismatch problem, as an added problem already that the Nuggets pose from a lineup standpoint, you can't mess with Yokis like that. Murray, he you know, he's a guard. So you know, he'll he'll have his moments, he'll be streaky, but he's dynamic. But MPJ is a mismatch problem if he plays up to that level and Mike Malone buys into using that as as as a means to compliment what the Nuggets do.
All right, I'm gonna say, Michael Porter Junior, is your is your guilty pleasure? Man? Like you? You you want? That's right? My, my, my, fifty shades of MPJ. There you go? Who there? Whoa there? All right? Well, I think that's that's all the time we have for today. List the show was going off the rails, off the rails, completely off the rails. A good show altogether,
Shaw, you know, great stuff. I'm sure we could have traveled all around man and found some you know, other places that we would have loved to have been to Boston, you know, out there in uh Clipperland, you know, laker Land. You know, we may have to do another part, you know, do like part two of these burning Questions and and see what those other organizations and teams would have been thrown out there.
Well, I'm sure we're going to get some answers from those from those teams and organizations asked me today unfold itself to some when we're back next week or private tap in on that see the status of Kawai and PG. What do they give us anything to kind of work off of, you know, to get our fans and listeners going here. So but yeah, great one to kind of get back into the rhythm of the NBA season. We are literally a week away from media Day, so excited. Time's here for the baseline?
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