"Ignatius"

or alive? Still though real bars matter? I mean this is like you know what I'm saying some decades later, bro, because it changed several different times since you started rapping. I was about to say, and you're still in the game. I think you know your your your new album is a testament to your growth. Though this is not like,

oh kiss, really, you know what I'm saying. Very personal, very cerebral, very grown, very musical, and I crafted it that way because you know, I aspect you know him, um so you know is the way he carried itself in a different mannerism. It was grown business and you know I wanted to represent it and that, like sup, So being in the game is long, man. I think you know I often I just asked you what you

moved in to Atlanta. You know, I'm telling about because I just remember New York being such an electric place, in such a place of creativity, and it just seems to have I don't know, man, it's like it's electricity. Ain't though, that's what it is. But define that though, because you were part of the air that defined I'm talking about y'all to get to the level of all

the ogs intended it to go. I mean, it was a collective effort from the the nightclub scene to the studios, um different people that would be coming through the powerhouse, studio, daddy's house. It just ain't like that no more. You know, A lot of dudes moved down here, a lot of dudes moved to Cali, a lot of dudes vacated the city. So it's still creativity there, but that electric that kinetic energy that used to circulate throughout this city is no longer there. And I think I see a lot of

influence from the South. I don't know in New York music. Is that is that a fact? I mean, you got Brooklyn Drill. They're killing it right now, They're doing they're doing anything, And then that could be inspired by the South. It could be inspired by Chicago. It would be you know, it's definitely not your traditional New York sound, but for me, as long as it's from New York, I'm happy for it, just to have something that because sounds evolved definitely, you know.

And I think that's a problem with a lot of the old g s. And I think a lot of the old gs really don't want to get as young as they do just because it's not what we did, you know what I mean. You don't have to embrace it all, you know, and that's that's why dudes like yourself still around, Dudes like myself, the Locks and you know whoever. It came from that era when you embraced this new sound and embraced the young and it gives your career legs, you know what I mean. Sometimes you

listen to it, some of it's really dope. It's really ca is the harmony, So you know what I mean, you gotta give it a listen before you just shoot it down. Let's talk about your cadence it started. I mean, wait before the Locks. I'm assuming obviously you've always had this tone in your voice, but the Locks Man one of the best rap groups of all times. Um, you shine through that three some Paul's um in a way that obviously you know, projected you or amplified you to

legendary status. But what was that like being in that supergroup? Man, y'all came, We got a new album coming up. It's coming documentary after after after this signatious project is because we need a doc Like, people don't know how thorough y'all were, because y'all literally were one of the only artists that ever was on Bad Boy and left like in the in the midst of you popping and y'all was I don't think people really understand that y'all was

like top of the total just cool. I like that little bit because you know, I was about to fry, but it might be a nice check. There nothing but you guys. You guys didn't have no no problems, and there were legendary things that happened. That's why I say the documentaries necessary. There was fights, there was all types of things that happened, but y'all left Bad Boy went the rough Friders. How did y'all friders was an issue?

Manage it so they actually was then helped us get the deal on Bad Boy and they placed us Dead Act started popping. They got their own label deal and there was no friction. It just felt better to be over there because that's like where you know what I mean. They knew us. He was able to artistically do things that we couldn't do, you know what I mean? But I feel like Big was like y'all see if Big, but if But I mean that if we never had to untimely dems, you might have seen that Mox Friday.

Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. Probably want to stay, yeah, be because he told he told us like he's gonna make you mad, but he's gonna make your star, like those ZACT words like he's gonna do some stuff y'all ain't gonna like, but he's gonna make your stars. And he he said it just like that. That's his actual quote. So in the hindsight, that's what happened, you know what I meant. But that changed everything, definitely, that changed everything. I look at Big like Big didn't wrap. You know,

he wasn't no juicy dude. He wasn't no hypnotized dude. He was like ball for ball. That was I was. Did he influence and I'm sure he grew into that too because he saw the paper, he saw the lifestyle. He became that example. But I feel like y'all were kind of not headed that way, but headed that way. And it was like, you know what I'm saying, because the street was just so dynamicou with y'all back there,

you know what I'm saying. And then with Steve was Swiss was doing production wise, seemed more befitting of your your your your That's a fact, you know what I mean. So so, but if Big, if Big was alive today, and I just you brought it up, like, where where would he be in the game, like jay z is, so it makes me wonder where the game would be entirely, what music would sound like right now because he was evolving like that was a great example of someone who

started out here and win here. And we didn't get the best music from Big. I don't think he had a lot more music Big game that still you know, as great as his music was, yet that probably wasn't as greatest. He was just just getting started, you know, because I remember when Clark introduced me to Jay and Dane and we used to be a DND making a reasonable the album, and all he should talk about was big, like they used to look up to big in such a way. And people don't know that because j is

j Now you know what I'm saying. But back then, like everybody was trying to be big. You feel me? Yeah, I just wonder, man, I often wonted that. Man, you haven't released an album in about five years. So with the change in music, where do you feel like you fit in or do you feel like you're setting? I wasn't in jail, or I didn't. I'm still I was still out head, I'm featured and you know show market place. Yeah, so I was, you know, and I got a son,

my son, keep you abreast of everything. I try to Yeah, um yeah, I always. I mean now, I won't do it anymore because of the way the climate of music. The last one, No no, no, no, I'm gonna come with another album probably by the summertime. After the summer. I'm just saying that's the way the climate of music is. But me, I would always leave three to four years or so in between doing the album, just to give the people whatever I went through from that last album.

Say this, and even from Freddie and Jason I went through, you know what I mean, going through the thing with pig a, fighting with colon cancer, had a daughter, you know what I mean, So it would be a bunch of stuff real life instead of just talking about my jury and not much money I got in foreign cards and all that. I know. That's that's also a part needed. It's also important that I gave you some real life pain too, because that resonates more than all the other stuff.

Stay out of the headlines with having this baby outside. Cut your phone, Come on, bar, you know better than that. My family was good. My family was good to me. You know I was able to you know the Lord. Also, you gotta keep your faith in the Lord and just try to work things out inside your house. You don't have to hit sin on every situation in your life.

You know what I mean That some people need to know that this whole social media world is taking over, gets into people brains and you know it's not not the solution for them or healthy. Yeah, or health is not healthy for handling real life problems. Definitely in front of the world dies we speaking of health and social media. I want to say, once upon the time, I think I believe it was last summer. I've seen Jade because go do like twenty five pull ups like uh, And

then I got a train. I got a trainer. He's a bartender. And then that's the guy father. I didn't know, Jada, because so are you a bartender? Man? You could call me a bartender? Can you get over the bar? I can't do the do the little flipping? Well, I only did one. I can't. I work out all the time. You can't do it. You guys called it incredible and you gotta teach you. That's that's how nice it is. But yeah, I still work at every day. Okay, can

we get another project with you? Fab though? Yeah know we're gonna we got another Freddie Jason, but we ain't gonna tell we're gonna. I love that collab marketing and roll it out differently. Stuff. What young artists? You want to work with kids? Because I got one. I want you to work with little baby. Just hitting me working with a little baby. That's like I like when he stands for like his music. I like his whole He came in and you know what I mean, his wave

was mean. He came in hit the ground running. Yeah, he's another that would be like the ultimate New York Atlanta collab. I feel like you know what I mean, what other youngest I got one for you? I like dog too though, I like I think Doug got some dog music that, you know what I mean? I like why being cord A with you. I think he's just going like some bar from bar had to be a good texture, so nice. That'd be some good therapeutic music for the end to be hip hop be hip hop?

What do you think about the that's going on in New York? Of course RP to pop smoke, but I'm talking about like five year four, and I felt Smoke was like he felt like New York. I felt like he was New York was about to go because I mean the kids, I don't feel like people from me like I just New York has a certain swag. It's a certain energy from there. You shouldn't feel like. That's

what I'm telling, that's what I'm driving. Always tell someone from New York even before they opened a mouth, the way their their body language, what they're wearing, like the swag is just you guys have such a strong presence. And I don't think people should lose that. I don't think you should lose that to make records or get into the music game. I think you should be who you gonna be. And I think Pop Smoke was giving me. I mean, he was giving me all of y'all in one,

he really was. He was giving me fifty. He was giving me kids. He I mean, he had energy, had New York energy. It was felt and so we're not in New York. I mean his death, how were they reacting like with the radio, fully involved with the people. I mean, I saw the parade, lot of love, a lot of love, big love, big love. Shouldn't wish she was here to get to love. And he feels like he was young, young like that. That's that really heard it more than you know me, especially having the twenty

three old son Boom. That's tragic. Lors. Yeah, let me ask you a question, man, saying that about your son and the loss of Pop Smoke as a father now and what you did in the beginning and we all grow up. I mean, that's that's that's called evolution, you know I'm talking about. But you you are always conscious along the way in your rhymes like you. I mean, we talked dope, we talked cars, we talked but I think you always had a certain level of consciousness. You

always did what slip with Joel in there? Um, that's just from growing up listening to the k rs Is and rock caimedon Nass and Keynes and you know Big Jay's and all of that. But I always try to slip a message in there too, because they always they already they're already down playing the whole hip hop coach and think we ignorant, and think we just reckless with money, and you know what I mean, anything we depreciate the

value of luxury soul. You always gotta slip them jewels and into the younger, and I think the youngest Google rock Him Eric being rock Him right now, listen to the alum painful rock Him looked. And I'm from Washington, D C. And when I was in the streets, I never forget this. I saw rock Him rapping, but he had to dapper dance, you know, so I thought he was a hustler. But then when I listened to the album, he didn't even curse it. He didn't even curse think

another master plan. Ain't nothing but sweating side of my head. So I dig into my pocket. All my money was spent I dig deep with still coming up with landing, you know. But I'm just saying, but you remind when I never I never forget when first played your ship and I'm like, yo, these kids are like y'all were on some like you know what I'm saying, some Gulley Gully Gully. But but you had this presence, bro, they

one I heard so appreciate. I just want to salute for consistency with that because this signaous album reminds me of a fully conscious you. If you get what I'm saying, appreciate. I'm not trying to sound funny, right, So Florida. I grew up in Florida, and I always wanted to ask somebody really from New York this question, how important is

the Timberland boots? And when were you introduced? And I'm serious, I want to know, because I really want to know how important is the Timberland's being a part of the culture for from you? Like when were you introduced to it? And I can remember my feet me into small because back then, now I got little kids, all my kids all got you know, they all got Tim's, but it was a time when my feet was too small. The actual construction boot for the heavy ass boots. I didn't

get regular into ladies. Ships killed me for the whole year. My feet that grow so bad. I mean my mom there then went around the old city looking for a pit in my side. So that's all serious. What is rules too? Right? You can't wear like the low top one but naked without the leather part of sold you gotta have the brown leather bubble on the top button naked without without it. I've seen that they will shashonate you and Philly, you come through with him. Yeah, that's

why I asked that question. And they got lower tops. Really, they got low top tims. You can't wear those either. In Broccoli Lost they got something that you know, you shouldn't ask for your size off the show. But there was a script for y'all back in the day too, just like DC. We had a script. It was black, gray and white. We wore gold domes. We were you know, tims.

But y'all like and we only wore we only wore we tims in the in the black joints, right, And but y'all didn't wear all them colors and all that they got red and now they got all that It was. You couldn't do all that. You couldn't do it. They wasn't even available. They didn't even have them back. Okay, all right, let me take the low top tims off my birthday list. You look cute girls with the low top tims. No nobody can wear them, tim, they got

wet tim tims. Then I mean something New York. Ye. I don't want to go on any borrow or whatever because you know I'm not from there, but I do some queens. You know. Uh, this is affecting my bag. I know it's affect that you're bad, especially after the n c A talked about it, announced it, UM and NBA just said this has spending games to further notice, UM not canceling the season. Like everybody said, your Instagram is the worst. Social media can be the worst for

ship like this. Um. But what do you think about this coronavirus? Man? I think it's political. I think they're over doing this. It's a conspiracy there. Like me, I think you should have been washing your hands ever since

you touch. Don't touch the counta and don't touch when you out with your mom, touching the door knobs and the hygiene and the mall and they always make you washing hands, and so we should have been washing our hands and covering up when you sneeze and protecting your face and light sol and so you know what I mean. It's just that as moll and, I think black people pigment and melan and fights it off in a different manner than other ethnic backgrounds. So it's not as serious,

you know. It's it's like catching the cold, and they're not telling you who's getting cured. People are getting this. It's saying the news and it meting is displaying the cases at the most. It's like when you when you get a case and you catch a case and the first time you go and to judge the numbers as tronamenal but years send good. But you know it's not gonna be like that's what's going on with the media.

And you see if you watch the social media, you see these viruses come out every time, every election time. And that's what they were saying. Soon as the candidate tuon, as it gets now down to the it gets down to the come down, it's gonna disappear. It doesn't looks like Trump is infected right now. He definitely looks at a little Yeah, but I'll say this, and these are the facts. There are more people that are not dying from corona, correct, and there they are the only reporting.

And then the other fact is you have to have like if you have a weak immune system, anything we penetrate to splain. Yeah, that's that's true, but this is not being perpetuated. And then you also look with children, right, babies have weak commune system because they're developing, but kids stronger than that anyway has been affected. And I want you to remember the only older, older people who have weak immune system that anything, any type of ailment could

have killed them anyway. But they just pushing it over like I'm we're saying, but let's they have like pre existing things to like diabetes, high blood pressure. Yeah, that all matters. So we don't want you how to think it's only old people. But if you're if you it will affect you more. Let's go left. China kills their own you know, they control, so let's get I just want to freak you all out of it. It's in

the government that they control the population. Yeah, oh no, they had a one time you couldn't have a you have to have a boy or a girl or something you haven't have to get rid of it. They say they got bill skyscrapers with all friends. Oh I don't want this baby, This is all speculation. Let me tell you fact. Let me tell you fact. They have They have methods in ways of controlling the population. That is a fact. They do that. Right, Trump goes against who

the most. Let's talk about two superpowers that it goes to the most, China and Russia. Right, So you want to hello, you want to think about one. You ain't heard nothing about Russia in this Let's just keep it one thousand. Has anyone in the room, anybody anybody camera? I have heard anything about Russia and the coronavirus. I want to ask coronavirus. Now you look at China just letting people come back outside. Now, initially they was burning

they had infrared old builders. They were supposedly burning people that but they do that anyway. You got to be aware of what they're trying to do to Trump. And like you just said, you just said, it is political. This has to be political. It is an election year. You want to get the rhetoric, call for the man. Just that the third what better way than the scared

the entire universe with the disease, with the pandemic. So many people are actually concerned though that they are actually trying to get us into martial law, like they're trying to use this shut martial law. Yeah, saying you can't leave the house right now, you can't in Europe. Yeah. I called a man that he had to chatz French dude over there, the mayor, you got to come home, Chad. The Orange man just said you're gonna be stuck over

there for thirty and have to be quarantined. My thing convinced. And this is another thing. You know, these white people, I'm gonna say it, they cannot not get the bad they cannot not have the economy going. But do you know thirty of these people's wealth has gone thirty It has been the biggest low in the stock market since two thousand eight, you know, talking about and even like what else we host you you perform. I'm just dollars right now just because some mean I just got we

just awesome final four the McDonald's all America. I mean it's gonna be the scheme mask way in two minutes. You don't feel it, We're gonna feel because they that's what's happened the money that's and they can't afford that didn't deal with perell toilet tissue and know because they were the whole of big downs. Where the toilet paper coming? How did somebody tell me? What does the toilet paper? If you stay at home, you need some toilet papers? Know?

That just shows you they can put the ship in the social sphere and you won't go do it just toilet paper. It's a tail as old as time. This is something that they've been doing to us year after year after year. I mean we know this already. I'm just I don't know, man. I don't want to be where they woke. Be mouthful, wash your hands like you should have been doing, just to be getting the time. Anyway, it's twenty twenty. We're supposed to be flying cars, not

not teaching people how to how to protect themselves. Let me tell you what needs to happen. What needs to happen is what they're do in Italy. Forget these mortgage payments for a little Morgans. That's how you get elected votes to spend the Morgans four minutes. I ain't gonna do that ship, No, I mean I think that actually they didn't take it seriously enough. Do you realize how

much money they lose? Like the for the instant double A, and it's well, you know what's supposed be in Atlanta what but but it's it's worth keeping your nation's safe, to keep it your safe from all fans to the canceled That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, they're not I'm not gonna have fans cancel the conference tournament. Yes, the n C Double A is gonna be played with his family and the team. But it's gonna be family right now, team staff. Yea, that's what That's how they

quoted William. She's not having a live studio audience audience for our showy. My point is, what is they're sending people home from school. You know this for Harvard now like all these they're sending their kids home saying you gotta fit. Okay, well, what do you know one or two? How can you recover n C Double A? Do you realize how much money they're losing? This would not be

happening if it wasn't. And this is where my conspiracy thing goes left, because they're talking sixty days, thirty days, you gotta stay in the house for two weeks to know if you're gonna be all right. It's like, what are you really saying, because there's a lot of money being left on the table. You're talking about the NBA season. You you're telling me that the NBA can really they got to pay the players. There's no this is not about it with force major. What'sn't our contracts every time?

The act of God. This ain't no act of God. This is not This is a disease. It has to be. It has to be. Now they're saying it comes from vats where essentially could have been a god, one of God's creatures. Whatever they But this is man made. Bro, this don't happen. It's a fact. And Trump, if you were, if you were woke, if Trump was a great leader, all this ship he talking about it don't matter. He probably got it there, if he was really a good

leader when it started anything coming out of China. Your facts. But guess what we can't do that Our economy was shut down if we didn't get our ship out of China, and it would have got worse. Because the eight um south By Southwest has a had a little clinic thing that the people people from Asia came over, because you know, that's really what the south By Southwest gets their money. They have a showcase that down that was the first.

They have a little festival for people that are in Asia, the showcase like their inventions and like clothes and all that ship that should be going on on the side. Let me even remember two thousand you want to start, I'm in the house of market crash who came over him bought everything the Chinese. So y'all keep thinking that this ain't no motherfucking biological warfare if you want to,

I'm on one part the lack of precautions. Why did they let so many people fly back into the States without screening them or testing them before sending them off. It doesn't make sense to me. They literally wanted this to happen. This is what they wanted to happen. You know what I'm saying, Like how and and this is another thing, And this is all my artists, all my creatives, Like I had Ronnie d Vote called me last night. He had a brilliant idea. I'm not gonna say it

because we probably end up doing it. Boy, this is the time to create new ways to make money right now, because you have to survive. We mean, as black people have had to do this since the beginning of time. You know what I'm saying, Do not go to the desperate measures of robbing and stealing this that in the third call your mother, Morris, come tell you can't pay it? Tell us. So I'm dead serious because I think like

people are gonna be underpression in a minute. If this ship goes on in three to the third of money, you're missing work. How are you gonna how are you going to people? Because everybody ain't no salary? Guy, Yeah, you're right, they're going ahead. They called Marsha lord because they just gonna go crazy, right and they can't survive like us. You know, we are in a government state. That's when the tanks are coming into your neighborhood. You

can't leave. We can't have concept Mary, which you're still on tickets of flying. You know about birthday? You're coming, what's happening? Let me get my birthday before they shut us down. There ain't nobody shutting nothing down if Keisha, I don't think Keisha would do that. First of all, she notices a black city. The only way we eat is by going out and getting it. She know that. Yeah, and you can't listen, it's airborne. Let's go back to that.

It's airborne. You can't prevent that. If it's coming, you can't. You can't. So I don't know. I appreciate that coronavirus is a big deal. And we don't have any hip

hop legends really speaking on that acting our bags. But you know, washings keep your life, so keep you chlorax wipes, keep your surfaces clean, watching watch the crowds, watch less contact is possible to Jay, I got a question, um, back to you legend status in my long successful tenure, usually artists of your statue have about ten albums, fifteen albums, and then of course me growing up in the South, I know rappers that have like twenty albums, ten mixtapes.

How how is it for you like that? And I know I know you said it, Yeah, I know that you said that every three years. But what keeps you, like you know on like, what keeps your pace to do such a few albums would be so successful in a time where you have to put out a whole money account little rough ride albums. You gotta features, bad Boy, No Way Out, I wrote most of that. You got to count publishing get a little John features too, because I remember them. I was in the A heavily before use,

one of the first people in the South. Remember that. Um yeah, so you I should have had more solo albums, but you start touring life taking type of but there was a demand for more album because I remember, like, but I'm gonna tell you, man, every time he shows up anywhere, it's almost like the Erra shows up, Like we was just in Chicago, you know what I'm saying.

Remember when you came we he came on stage at the party I was hosting, and literally the reaction and we always look at each other like that, because I feel like this, I feel like you didn't think none of this was gonna happen. I feel like I didn't think like you didn't know back in the that you were just put one foot in front of you. You know, hip hop is still a baby. It's just about the term fifty years old. So it's gonna be all we

we we we we. We were learning on a whim, like it's gonna it's gonna change dramatically a lot more it already has. It's only about to be fifty years old. You don't know what's gonna happen, like with the coach of him, you know. So so I love that, and that sets up the next question, where would you like

it to go? Being one of the that was a great question because this is one of the I love this, Yeah, because I think, to be honest with you, you took it from our forefathers, your generation, our generation, and we took it to where we can really monetize it. Now. You see there's no limit to the space right now. We need more balance. Hello, I mean it's it's a lot of money being made. Um. In my era, the budgets with bigging the video production these videos was like

Stillburg movies and the the money he was spending. They're doing it now but different there was no three. They had to make up a lot of money because they didn't get with the digital wave. When the outlets came to them and said this was gonna happen, and they told him kiss my ass and didn't had the recool balling them billions of dollar hundreds of billions that they lost. So that's what's going on now. But when I say it's unbalanced, I mean you see how they're letting Griselda,

west Side, Benny and Conway. For every one of them type of texture groups, they let a hundred and fifty other bullshits, and so it keeps it the scale is not right. So we could just get a little more balanced. I think that's got to shape things out a little better, because I love I love all of the music, but they let one real petitive. They let a lot of bullshit and so scaling right. Yeah, So so they popped up quick though. The Griselda and the Billings in the night.

They they they've been they they been shooting. They've been going awful a while. Like it took them, you know what I mean. They got with him and Paul Rosenberg, and I was able to get them over the hull. They've been trying for they've been they've been up there trying to break the door down in Buffalo, forking your respect. J just went to the show the other day. I'm like, wow, these kids are really it's because they're staying in the lane.

They ain't wave riding. They're making people tend what they're doing instead of just trying to listen to the billboard and do what the the sound of today is they're going their own sound and making and building their fans and their core fan base like that, and I think that's brilliant in the balance of our needs. Yes, so the music is out there. I just think, you know, the mainstream market, like you said, is really forcing us to listen to the same thing over and over again.

So you have to dig, and I think a lot of the younger kids, I don't know how to do that. They're used to just going to iTunes or going to someone's Instagram or YouTube and finding what they need and they're satisfied with that. But when we get to have these opportunities to interview people like you, I think it really does expose them to something different. It makes them want to go back and be like, Okay, hold on,

I got to use the whole plate. Like it's helpful even for me to put my music on TikTok and Thriller and all of that stuff. You tape it. I don't tape it, but you're right, You're right. I don't take myself, but it's necessary, right, Like, like, if you're trying to connect to the younger crowd, yeah, for show, you got to talk to them in the language that they understand. You know, you gotta make yourself visible. So make it work for you compromising or looking corny or

you know what I mean. I make it all work. That's the challenge of the today's climate of music is figuring it out man, you know. I mean it's so digital. As you see, I'm doing a digital thing. I'm also making these trips and stop and touch the people. Do you got year old? So you know you formula that I was raised. Get out on the road and hand see the people. Definitely be calling me, Oh, you're nervous about the corona. Shut up to get to the bathers.

Are I would tell you this, import me to sanitizing. You set me up some more radio. Make sure make sure all the reps are washing their motherfucking hands. I would say this to you, man, um And you know you guys got any more questions? Before I get to them, I asked my Timberling question, that's all I want to know about about the collapse on your album, like how they came about? How did you select to work with

these people? They were actually all people that um Ice Pick would always be in my air about in the studio, could work with, but I would always just shove him off because I thought he was gonna be with me forever. I thought I had the time to do it forever, Like yeah, Push you you know he gotta pick also work for Star Track. So that's like our family for

what I'm saying. Um, So he always wanted me to work with Push John Legend, you know, we always always wanted to and he always like, yeah, we gotta get a John Legend collapse. So he was able to make that happen. Um to chance. He love, he loved his downside, he loved his voice outside you love you love him and change rap. So that was I want to made that happen. Um, Dave's Loaf was able to get. Yeah, just all of them features with people that he asked me to work with. I used to just strugglem off

so you know, make his legacy continue. I just tried to do that for him. The album in stores and out digitally everywhere right now, right now, check it out. Great, say you're super proud of that. Every time I hear in the interview, you're just talking about how my what it means to you know, love that you gave you know who. That was a great question because I didn't even think about like all those artists were that we didn't know the artist he talked, you know what I'm saying,

So that's that was brilliant man. Congratulations and now it's time. Fucking Fucius said, yeah, kids, I drop a little nuggety once in a while, man, but I want to give your flowers while you're sitting in front of me. I think that not only are you one of the greatest rappers of all time, but you are necessary because you are open to receive. And I think because you're that you can lead this new generation. I think exactly what

you said. There needs to be more balanced in life, especially hip hop, since that's the driving force behind everything we all do. Let's not act like, you know, hip hop is not our civil rights movement. Let's not act like hip hop is not, you know, saying the fucking you know what I'm saying, founders found in America, Like you know that that's our thing and you are pioneering

that and you have to please brother. You know. I know you speak through your music, but I see colleges and universities accepting you with open arms, and you're sharing your stories because all history books, English books can teach you your stories, you know I'm talking about and you have so many. Man, I didn't want to really get into it because you told me not to fry puff. But I really, really, really that was a joke. Everybody

should have laughed. Um, But I really, really really honor your journey because it's it's truly been one step in front of the other. And that's sometimes all people need to know. It's not as difficult as we make it. We don't have to put all that pressure on ourselves. It's about putting one fucking foot in front of the other man. So we salute you, we love you, and I'm gonna tapt you up as soon as this ship is over. You know, the coronavirus to Atlanta, no doubt,

juices for life. And for the record, I got my laugh. After you, I'll be saying that I believe that hold on, can you do it once? And then you do your I'm probably make your mind you in that, just so you know, I don't mind. You know that man say his last is tatned Fall, because the tree is real