"Across the Pond"

I just turned on the news and a bow. Everybody was just you know, protest. It was peaceful for a while and then um, you know, they had all those police cars outside and then then you know, it just took one person to get on top of the car and then someone had to skateboard. It started bashing out. I was watching it on TV right down the street at the radio station. All hell broke loose. But I

definitely saw it. And then that morning that start today morning, I went to go clean up after my people, because you know, I think everybody has a role, and although mine wasn't to be out there you know, you know, raising cane that night. I definitely just simply protesting, and just simply protesting, of course, but I just feel like, you know, my my energy was met um elsewhere and doing the work in another capacity. We can all contribute in our own ways. I actually did protests one of

the days. On the first day of the protests, actually, I went over to Jackson Street, you know, that really popular bridge that people go to, and I just I just wanted to look over the city, just look over Atlanta. And I said a prayer to myself, and sure enough, at eight fifty seven, a couple of cop cars pulled up to the bridge and told everyone that we had

to leave and go home. Once I got home, once I got to my building, I decided to go up to the rooftop because I just I was really I really can't describe how I felt, but I was overwhelmed with whatever that feeling was. I wasn't done praying. I needed to go to the rooftop and just have some quiet time. When I get up there, mind, our rooftop

is still closed due to COVID nineteen. Okay, when I get up there, there is a whole techno party all white people, with the exception of one black person a full blown DJ like they like the DJ was going in it was loud, and it made me fall into that feeling even more because I thought to myself, Wow, life is so different for white people, Like look at y'all.

You guys are literally up here enjoying this like it's nothing going on, Like like the police aren't lined up outside, like people aren't protesting, people aren't being you know, victimized by the police. And it definitely put me in my feelings more to see that it was actually hurtful. UM I did a demonstration. UM I laid down on the concrete. Man is behind my back. I didn't have nobody's knee on my neck, but just lying down on that con

week for eight minutes and some change. At the same time, UM officer had his his knee on George Floyd's neck. Just lying down on there for almost nine minutes was a locked to just lie down on the concrete. M You're absolutely right, because I did a priest for protests too, because I'd be protesting, you know, throughout throughout the week

of last week as well. But UM, last weekend, I protested with some essential workers and we actually kneeled in the park um for that same amount of time, the eight minutes and forty six seconds, I believe, um, And that was a long time, so you're absolutely right, man, I'm talking about four minutes. And then it was like six minutes. I'm over here like wow, his neck. And as it got to eight minutes, I'm like, wow, his neck. His knee was on his this guy's neck for this

long and I'm over here like this is crazy. And then I meant too young, Um, Caucasian UM girls. They were both seventeen years old. They were outside with us peaceful profits for peaceful protesting. Of course, we posted that on ball alert and I posted on my page at Ferrari Simmons UM. And they were so educated, um. And I had asked them also off the camera about their parents, and then they told me that their parents were kind

of on the fence, but they told it. They told their parents that they still with us and they were coming out to protest with or without their parents consent. And I thought that was dope. And I love that Generation Z is changing the world. Um. You know, they are allowing themselves to do the work to learn. You know, I've been learning some things from you know, random white people on social media. I'm like, I didn't know Central

Park used to be Black Land. I didn't know that. Um, you know thirty what did she say to grocery stores, banks, schools, all these all these things, And I just cannot believe how suppressed African American, real African American history is. Yes, I agree. And you know, one thing that we have now that was in the available in the sixties and

social media. You know, everybody has a phone, and all the kids have a phone, so they're able to you know, see things and then research themselves and then educate themselves, and then you know, you don't have to agree with

your parents. It's just like that one um, the young lady, I forget her name, but it went borrow when she was arguing with her dad and mom about you know, educating herself on Black Lives Matter, and they were, you know, saying that she don't really know what it's like, and you're just, you know, you're just reading it on the phone. You're not actually out there. I work in the ghetto,

you know what they were talking about. So I am glad to see people are you know, taking the initiative, especially young kids and going out and doing the research and educating themselves and not you know, just taking their parents word for it. Yeah. I love that it seems

like communities are getting stronger. People are actually coming together for a purpose outside of party and smoking, drinking, chilling, like we actually have more of a purpose UM and I do want to mention that I'm actually teaming up with UM the Book Bank Foundation and the Book Bank executive board member, which is Kabochi. I know everybody knows Kibachi um Desti banks as well, you know comedian Desti.

And we are requesting that people join us in a march for unity and basically what we're gonna do one block at a time. We're gonna do a community clean up starting at the West End Mall. So we will all meet at the biggest parking lot at the Weston Mall. We'll talk about what our mission is and then we want to walk that area and clean up as much as we can. Make sure we're communicating with the neighborhood and let them know that we are here. We're here for each other. And so if you guys can make

it out, please come out this Saturday. The March from Unity this Saturday eleven thirty am Saturday June. You can go to my page and get more information at underscores to Solo s U s O l O. If you are down, well, we got more on Black Lives Matter on the Bail Alert show. Let's get into in case you missed it though. Okay, this is probably one of the best things that can happen to an a t Alien or an Outcast fan. Andre three thousand is alive

and well. Okay, Andre three thousand, Um, he made a post on Instagram, so you know, hip hop lovers around the world, we all miss Andre three thousand. We know him as half of the supergroup Outcast, and he actually scared us a little while ago when he shared that he wasn't feeling inspired. You know that it was difficult for him to not only make new music, well, to not only release new music, but to make it period

because he was just uninspired. So it was scary. We didn't know what that meant if we didn't know if he was leaving us for good. But back in May of two thousand eighteen, he had actually posted his first thing on social media. If y'all remember, it was a screenshot of a text message, UM. And we didn't really see much of him up until this past was it Tuesday? Yeah, up until this past Wednesday actually, and he came on on to promote a shirt and the Black Lives Matter movement.

He also asked the question. He said, something very important is happening all over the world, and it is happening to all of us. How does it make you feel? And I don't know what it is about Andre three thousand asking a question, even if it's just on freaking social media. I sat there and I thought about how

do I feel? How do I feel? Yeah? I definitely think that it's important for all of our you know, black musicians and UM celebrities to come out and shed light on issues that are going on right now and you know, doing what they can and lifting their voices and asking questions as in how do you feel? You know, um, and sharing with us the public because we need all we can, We need all hands on deck to keep

a consistent conversation about what's going on. No effects. And Andrew thousand is of course the top three uh my favorite rappers that are alive and UM, when he speaks, we need to listen. I want to know what's going to happen with music now. Is Andre going to feel compelled to make the Black Lives Matter soundtrack? I would say so, Um he if if he especially if he

said he was lacking inspiration. Um, we have never been so inspired to do anything like to be successful down to you know, being a lot more to show a lot more empathy towards each other as um a black race, um, even towards other races. I mean, keep in mind, Hispanics are its president's prejudices about against them too. It's racism against uh Mexican people who are not white. A lot, a lot of a lot of whites don't like more than just a Frican Americans, it's other people too, totally.

It just seems like, you know, black people are at the bottom of the barrel, though you know we are, it just seems like it never stops. And I'm definitely not taking away from any other minority group because we know that injustice lives everywhere. We absolutely know that, but we feel like our voices are the least important. And it's gotten to a point where we have had enough of that and we're going to make you hear us coming.

And as far as him, you know, making music. I'm just glad that we're able to see him and him able to speak about what's going on, you know, in this time. So if it's just T shirts he's selling or whatever, I'm just glad that he's voicing, he's sharing his voice with us and letting us know, you know, he's here to lend his hand and to you know, make his mark. I know we often say, you know, black folk in particularly, there's a popular saying right now, I am not your ancestors, I will beat your ass.

You know. I know a lot of us have been hearing it. But these younger white kids, especially, you know, the two young ladies that Rory interviewed, they are showing us that they're not even their parents. Forget the ancestors. I am not my racist parents. And I love, I love that they are putting it on blast. I just hope that these kids are safe. I just I really hope they're safe, because if I was a racist pappy, I am whooping your ass. You're gonna starve, you're gonna

do all like you will not embarrass me. But I think, like you said we said earlier generations, Z is changing the world Um, the way that they view things, the way that they see things. It's you know, technology is different now again, racism is just being filmed. It always was there before, we just didn't really see it the way that we see it now. And when we see it, it looks bad. Um. You can look at the Instagram

pages social media, Karen's gone wild. Um, I think it's another page, another Karen's page because they're calling Karen's the racist white women. So all on social media you can see people posting racist and people are getting fired, people are getting fired, suspended without pay. And when you see

that happening, that's when you'd be like, thank you. But this has been going on since forever, and we, you know us as African America's we were kind of just like, damn, that's just how it is because you never really understood, like to see justice, just normal racism justice at work. Now when you see things like this happening, now, white

people gotta think a little different. And I hate saying white people because I'm not racist, you know what I'm saying, Because I get saying it and we're only talking about racist white people. I'm just like, okay, so racist white people are gonna think twice before they do anything, because now you can lose your job, you can lose um, you can get fired from whatever you got going on, if you're in the club, whatever, you they will denounce you.

You thinking twice, motherfucker. I like that ship, but it's never keep in mind of what ten years of just ten years ago, this was never like this, like ten years ago, ten weeks ago, ten weeks ago, forget that ten weeks ago. But I'm proud. I am so proud to see all these people on the front line. I'm proud to see people boycotting businesses. I'm proud to see people share their experiences. And honestly, this is the shift.

I feel like if we do not let me just be last week's news, do not let this be last week's news. Keep fighting, don't let up because next week they're probably gonna hit us with all these coronavirus headlines or whatever the cases and allies, do not forget what we are fighting for because the way these people play, it's dirty and it's something that we do not understand.

So before we switch up, just shout out to my white friends that have been standing up and saying something and um, that's been calling me and other people that's been posting and being out there with us, um, and if you don't, because I I did have one white friend called me and said, you know, UM, how do I help? What do I do? You know? And he I knew, I knew him to not be a very vocal person. But I told him, it's other things that you can do. And I just was talking to him

about other options. And I think that that's dope too. Drew Rees, by the way, go ahead for real? All right? Well, um, Speaking of heat and the social climate out here in the world, Treta had an opinion that a lot of people are not rocket. Hey, hey, can we play the audio of the original Heat? Everybody off the street? These animals off the streets that are running around in Miami Dade County acting like they have escaped from a zoo. Locked him up at five pm so the streets could

be nice and clean. That's how I feel. What the streets with lives talking about the lives, not talking about the lives that mean tear about city. Ain't nobody that mean tear about that? Run through, turn down stuff and breaking up fool and go and tear a Baseback marketplace to trot, my friends, shot, the having fun and the kid to take care of her family to go to. Personally, it's definitely personal. It's definitely personal because I feel like, at the end of the day she got her shirt,

I'm like that for fifty days also. And she also don't have money like me. I don't approve a bit period. Yeah, okay, so that's what Trina said. Okay, now she didn't. She did an apology, which I thought was too little, too late. She I mean, that's what always happens, right. You know. The thing is, when I was listening to it, I I felt bad for Trick. Okay, I felt like they try to say twice he was trying. He on top of that, he tried to keep it cool, you know,

he didn't want to go off. He tried to keep it cool. And I feel like, well, your friend warns you of something in that manner, you gotta know that serious. Like, But Trina was in her zone. She was in her feelings. She could she was It's like she wasn't listening. She had to say what she wanted to and that was it. Called us animals said to lock the protesters up at five PM. So the streets can be clean. It the undertone of that, So the streets can be clean? Come on, man,

it's certain things. Then she called them caged and she needs to we need to cage the animals or something like. Man, listen, bro, that ain't how you do that. And now you're you will you know, she's still on the radio. Keep in mind. I loved Trina. I loved her music. Keep mind, but it wasn't a big fan of Trina as the rapper. But just what she's still for because you know, I'm from down that way, you know what I'm saying, and just hearing somebody who sounded, you know, like where I

was from. I thought that was dope when she first came out in her career. But my thing is, damn man, when you on the radio and you're speaking to millions of people, you have to be mindful how you articulate yourself. And that's that's very important to media people, people who have a large following. You have to be mindful of how you articulate yourself because people who follow you sometimes really follow you, follow what you say, follow what you do.

They look up to you and you don't even know it. You know what I'm saying. So you have to be careful and mindful how you articulate yourself. That's why the rappers have so many people who do what they rap about. And we'll be trying to get on these rappers like, yo, if y'all gonna rap about this stuff, be accurate. If you're not, if that's not your lifestyle, don't rap about that because these kids are thinking you are this big drug lord when you really aren't. Man, listen, So back

to Trina, what I got you. Back to Trina. You gotta be careful you she was called in the heat of the moment. I know in my heart she probably didn't mean it how she said it, but she said it, and you said it with conviction. And when I think, I think she showed a lot of concern for her her friend's business that was unfortunately vandalized. I think to her that was more important than what the actual message of all of this is. And it very hurtful. It's

very hurtful. And I think we have to realize there is a such thing as black privilege. Okay, and it definitely don't look anything like white privilege, But there is a such thing as black privilege, and most of the time, unfortunately, the people who have advanced in their careers, the people that made it, you know, made it out the mud and got where they are, and feel like, oh, well, I'm I'm having meetings full of white people. Oh these

record exacts, they respect me. Oh look how these producers treat me. I'm so and so, I'm so and so. You cannot forget that you're being exploited, Okay, Like, if you're looking around in the room and all you see is white people and that brings joy to you, something is wrong with that, Something is wrong with that. That

is how the system set us up. Even I know there have been plenty of times where people will lean towards working with a white person because it looks better, you know what I'm saying, Like it it looks like you made it. And I think sometimes black people who have reached a certain level of success, they it's stuck on that and they turned their backs on us and they start talking about us like those white people talk about us, and it's not okay. Treata forgot. Treata forgot

for a minute. She definitely forgotten. Now. I don't know if her apology was genuine. I don't know if she truly understands now, But what do we do with, you know, people in our community on such large platforms saying things like that, what what do we do? Um? I think all prs and I'll let you go after this. I think all prs and people who managers should be sitting there,

artists down, sitting there, clients down. I think I posted I posted this a couple of about a week and a half ago when a lot of people started getting canceled, and it's a whole thing called canceled nation too. We can't just be out here counseling everybody. That ain't a

good idea. But I will say to the people who presumed to be canceled or managers out there, and people who have clients PR people, we need to sit down and speak to these two your clients you're hiring clients about how to articulate them themselves on social media, because, um, just going and speaking off the fly may not be the best thing for you to do, you know what I'm saying, Especially if you don't if you don't mean something in a certain way, you might not want to

say it without really properly writing down your thoughts and articulating yourself, especially if you have a large platform. You know what I'm saying. I think we're gonna speak to somebody in the next coming of days about about something that she said on an interview and how people just twisted it and took it a whole different way and some things she tweeted. We'll be talking to her about that too, Right, guys, you already know what you had

to say. Um, these days, the tolerance for black disrespect is at all time low. It doesn't matter whatever race, the disrespect for black lives is over with. I understand she was upset about her Homegirl's store being looted, but the way she went about it on her show, like you said, you know, it was it was horrible and it was really general to me, like she just lumped all the piece for protesters and with the looters altogether.

I do understand the frustrations of the people who presented and signed the petition, and I'm not surprised real petition out to the hump and I'm not surprised that this happening the Trina, you know, as far as her, as far as them wanting her to be fired. I understand, um, she did not agree with the looting. Um, but like you said, where she could have expressed herself in a different way. And you know, Portrack, like he was saying to he was sitting there trying to doubt her back.

But I felt like her emotions were getting the best of her and the apology didn't even match the initial passion that she had when she was saying what she was saying. Yeah, that's the thing to the apology. Didn't never do that, but apologies. She never wanted to apologize either, because initially when she said what she said the first um, she went on Twitter and said, I said what I said that right there told me that she really meant it, so like I do, I will have to say so

you were right. But I kind of felt like, I think maybe that's the fan of Trina and me. That was like, damn, man, she ain't she meaning like that? Did she? Damn? Dreaming? Yeah? And you know, not to be careful with their words. Everybody seems to be tripping up around here. But that's why you got the petition out now, you know what I'm saying. And I believe right now they have like fifteen thousand signatures to try to get her fired, removed from her position at UM

the radio station. But you know, if that had been any other person, you know, especially like a white person, that they would have said what they said, they would have been removed. You know, we we cannot afford people on that kind of platform. I just thought about that. Wow, you are right. Wow, Well this is that I want to point out, you know, because you mentioned cancel culture and how real it is. And the thing is, I do feel like than our communities we need to be

a little more patient with each other. We definitely need to start giving each other constructive criticism more so than coming at them. Do I agree um that you know, she should get fired. I can't necessarily say that, but I can definitely say that I don't think we have the capacity to allow black people to say those kinds of things about black people on that type of a platform. Well, if that was the case, then the word I should have cut her mic and you know, saved her in

m I wonder who that was. Yeah, that's such a tricky situation because I'm pretty sure they probably wasn't trying to go viral. They were speaking, and she went, she just flew left. She went all the way left and at that point you kind of just in a state of a thirty second shock, like you were over here like what I know. People that was listening in the car was like what the hell, man, that's We're sitting

there looking like trick, like, please shut up. What's the what's the next Well, we discussed Andre three thousand, Trina, and we kind of already went in on the Black Lives Matter movement. But I do want to say again, you know, thank you to everybody that is holding it down be s somemone. I'm sorry the internet is dragging you. We will definitely talk more about a little later on

as we talk with Ebeneezer. Ebenezer is a Nigerian London artist, producer, all types of things, so we're gonna talk to him and also go through his road collection. Yeah, and going back to the politics of everything. UM, I just want to talk about voting for a second. Um, the issues that we just had on June nine, and there were so many issues out there, you know, UM as far as you know, the long hours it rain, you had

people out there in the rain. UM, the technical issues, the machines not being delivered to the right places you had workers not even being able to work the machines. Um, and this happened like in counties like full Tender Cab and a lot of the areas where the large black populations were in Georgia. Now Brad rathers Raffersberg, Um Raffersberg, I believe his name is the Secretary of State is blaming the county leaders and saying that the problems should

have been taken care of months in advance. And um, you also had people like Hillary Clinton who took the Twitter and saying what happened in Georgia, you know, was by design and that voter suppression is a threat to our democracy. You also had Keisha Lan's Bottoms tweeting on actual voting day that, um, if you're in line, please stay in line, don't let your vote be suppressed. So, you know, I just wanted to kind of get your

opinion on and your experience and voting, because mine. I went out there crack of dawn, Like, I got up and I called myself trying to get there early. Um, I got there like six thirty. The line was already down the street, and it took me like a good two hours, you know, just to get in the door.

Then when I actually got in and had my ballot and hand ready to scan, um, the machine wasn't working, you know, to scan the ballot, and so I had to sit there another like forty five minutes just for them to get the text support on the phone and for them to fix the problem. So what were y'all experiences? Well, lucky for me, I'm a early voter, honey. I don't know why more people do not take more advantage of that. There were so many options absentee ballots, you could have

just gone to vote early. However, I am not excusing the fact that they screwed us in Georgia on that particular day. I have friends that actually went to go early vote. Jason, as a matter of fact, he went to early vote the week before and he waited four hours then and was still not able to vote. Then he had to go back on the regular vote day and he waited another four hours, so in total it took him eight hours to get his vote in. Yeah, um,

well you know, keep of mine. Also a little fact, Uh, they weren't used to us voting before, so therefore it never was vote machines and all that stuff. We're never in the areas that people were voting in Before it was only a few people that voted, um, and of our racial background before. But now since people are voting and people were active, this is the most active I've ever seen voting since the Obama administration in two thousand

and eight. I never forget that because it was like, you have to vote, it's almost like life or death. But now it's retreating voting like it's life or death as much as possible because we can't see change. I believe I forgot what state it was, Arkansas. I double checked, but um, they had they posted a for the first time ever, they had an African American mayor in one of the states and in the Midwest, and I just thought that was so dope. So people are actually seeing

examples of African American or just voting. Were people that used that you share your values with them, you know what I'm saying. People are definitely understanding the importance of it. I mean, let's sell the offset. You know, one third of amigos he voted for the first time. I think he's twenty eight or twenty nine years old. So this is really inspired. Yes, And even if you don't know that you can just find out. Find out. These people

will trick you. Even Uncle Snoop said it. He said that he was tricked into believing that he cannot vote yes. And and that's the thing I was saying. People are now doing research to see if they're eligible to vote. So so many people are voting for the first time ever, and they're grown adults, like they're in their late twenties voting for the first time ever locally and nationally. And that is the big thing that we're missing and we're

seeing it. It's dope. I waited hour. I believe it was like forty five minutes to an hour, but it was people my age there. And I do agree with you, so you should. People can't take advantage of the early voting. I'm on to like to go out on actual voting day, you know, and experience it on voting day. And yeah, and I like to go out and help anybody who can't get around to voting, you know. Um that that's my time. I like to I like to kind of do that on voting day. So that's one of the

reasons why I was very nervous about it. Um, you know, just I don't know you know, it's uncomfortable because you don't know is your voice truly being heard? But then it's like you really don't know when you go to the machines. And unfortunately the State of Georgia they show us every election that they funk us over every time. Yeah, you know, voter suppression is very real. However, Um, it's still a right that we have to exercise because I feel like, you know, we had people dying for us

to vote. You know, even not too long ago, there was a post um on Instagram I believe on ball alert or it was. It went viral, but a lady showing papers on where she had to pay two dollars just to vote. You know, we had to actually pay

the vote. So I feel like we have this opportunity now with black people and we should exercise that, right Amen, Yeah, I'm I just want to say, lastly, for George Floyd, UM speak on that a little bit, you know, under the circumstances which are horrible and what happens to George Floyd rest in peace. I feel like in this moment,

it has awakened so many people. And although we were in this pandemic, you know, which everyone seemed to have forgotten because we all saw, like you know, ain't nothing happening, but um, the restrictions that formulated within the pandemic, you know, with us staying in the house, no sports, no new TV shows, things like that forced us to focus on, you know, the horrific topics at hand, you know, and it's kind of impossible for everybody to turn a blind eye.

And I'm pleased to see everybody, every celebrity stepping up, you know, unifying within the Black Lives community and you know, people joining us and um doing doing what we can to reach justice. I applaud us. And you know it's just like um Joe Budden who just gave us a shout out you know on ball Alert for posting and you know, doing what we can to keep the awareness out there, you know, and enforcing change within the world. We definitely appreciate that. Facts well, uh very intelligently said

thank you. Yeah. At this point, you know, my only prayer is consistency. I just hope you know, we keep we stay consistent, So you have to. We gotta hold each other accountable and understand that we are doing this for ourselves, our children and the generations to come, and that it was time for a word from our sponsors. You're you're listening to the aler. We have Mr super Producer Ebeneezer correct, and he's a super producer, super engineer,

super songwriter. This man does it all. Now. The first question, what is where did your name come from? Is that your real name, Ebenezer? Yeah, that's my actual name, given to me by my parents. Wow, people with a nickname Eban either. And so you're Nigerian right, yeah, yeah, I'm not m I was born in London, but not during I just want to say you're Nigerian, but you sound like you're from Great Britain, from London, from London. Yeah. Don't you go to Nigeria often? No, unfortunately I've only

been once. I didn't. I didn't actually want to go to Nigeria to begin with because growing up in London, they always used to show videos of like Africa, people with flies on their faces and it always just kind of like deter me and put me off. And then I went there and there's nothing that what you see on the adverts that they proper guy, the messages, Nigeria is so beautiful and amazing. I'm gonna trying to go

back this year again. I felt like that too. I was actually born in the United States, but I'm Ethiopian and I did not want to go to Ethiopia at all. I was like, mom, I'm not trying to see these hungry people. I mean, it's bad. It was really bad. And I got there and fell in love. I literally cried like a bit when it was time to leave, like I do not want to leave Africa. It was

it was amazing. Yeah, yeah, it's it's unfortunate that that's the propaganda they try to sell to us in the Western society or the Western hemisphere, that afril car is so poor and deprived. But I'm like, we have poor and deprived people in our own countries here, so that propaganda I don't buy into it. And I said, just nobody buying into it, because it's it's just nonsense. Now you're saying here, like, are you in London now? I

flew back to London. I was in l A, but I flew back to London because we have free healthcare. Could you explain to us this single that we see that is popping everywhere Plausa. You come up with this concept right here? It was literally about my ex. Um oh all the way were just bits and pieces of it. What I have to give her credit where credit is due. I'm not gonna say her name in case she tries to come and get some now, Evaneezer, I must say I did catch your interview on lip service shout out

to Angela. Ye, and this this the same ex that came to your house. What was it like? She drove like three hours to your house and stood outside and you made her go home. Yeah, she drove three and a half hours to come to come and quote unquote late with me. I was like, na being a half hours back, I don't I don't know. Boy, she wasn't given starfish. What really listened to the interview? Um? Yeah,

I just couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I couldn't go through all the headache and order that drama again. I was like, it's not worth it, even just for one night, It's still not worth it. Um, So you driving music? Are you signed? Yes? I just signed to a label called twelve some in America that is run by Dog Morris and Steve Bottles. Steve Bottles just came from death sham. Dog Morris has been out all of

the labels Universal or Sony and Wara. So yeah, there's a good bunch of people you've got, and some pack on the labels. So and they just let me. They give me full creative control to drop as much as I want, do as much music as I want. And yeah, they're just super supportive. So I'm grateful. I'm really grateful.

Now that's definitely where I was going. I was gonna ask you, you know, being signed in America, do you feel like they're putting parameters on the type of music you can put out or trying to keep you from doing your thing? No, because my music don't If you have my music, you can't tell where I'm from. I don't sound like I'm from London. So they just literally let me do whatever I want and say, we'll give you full creative control. We believing you believe in your music.

And yeah, they just they should be best playing. Um, I've done a song literally two days ago and they're letting me drop it next week. Yeah. So now I was gonna say, you write, produce, mixed, perform your records engineering, what made you get to that point? You know as far as being an artist? Because I produce an engineer as well. And it's just like I know for me, sometimes you just tired of waiting on people to do certain things for you. What was it like for you?

How did you get to the point of like doing everything for yourself? Literally exactly what you said, tired of wait? And I'm very I'm patient about the same time, I'm very impatient. Um, something that I can do for myself. I hate waiting someone else to do it for me, and I didn't want to procrastinate any longer, so I used to. I started off as a songwriter trying to get people to semi beats. People are taking long to

semi beats. I was like one day myself. Then it went to I need someone to demo it for me. Same thing. Everyone was just moving along, starte the end of myself. Next thing, you know, Um, where I am right now due to the grace of God and so many great people behind me and all the people who slept on me, and it was taken along and the same people blowing up my phone now, please can I get? Please? Can I get? It's just it's just how the game goes. I don't take much, yeah, but I worked hard for mine.

This this this didn't come overnight. I spent like years working harder, slept on my studio floor for weeks, didn't go home, and didn't have a change of clothes because I couldn't afford it. So this isn't just all of a sudden, Yeah, he's working with ty dollar Sign and he's got records out and it's doing well. Now there's a lot of pain and then like, there's so many times I wanted to quit music, so many times. I was going to what was your first break that showed

you that you can keep doing this? I was in a catch phony too. Um. I was trying to get records to people, but people won't take the records because I didn't have any credentials under my belt. I didn't I haven't written for like your A list this yet and I couldn't get in with the A lists because I haven't haven't had the song. So I was in a psycle. I was in a loop um and one

of my friends sent my song. They asked him for a song and he sent my song instead, and then they loved the song, and I was like, yeah, we want to use this song, and he was like, yeah, I didn't do this. My friend friend who who was that guy who was the trade on Mavie one of my best friends. Um, he literally put on for me when I had nothing. Did you buy him a robe of the you need to give him one of anyone? I get him other stuff like anything that drops, like gadgets.

So I was like, watches, iPhones, Gucci, whatever you want, and make sure he's straight, because he really didn't put on for me when nobody everybody left me. The people I used to run with left me by myself, so I was literally solo dollo, trying to make ends meet. I was over five ground in debt. My friends were paying my studio bills and my other friends. And he was always like, it's a matter of when not if,

so just you know, just stick with it. And I was like, fuck you trying, don't want to hear that that I need to go in this year and go make money. He's like, no, trust me, trust me. And then I made my record fifty three Sundays, and then that's when my life really changed. But he put on me early and still put something to me. Now, so you didn't mention working with Tywason. I see that you worked with a few other people stuff I'm done, Jeremiah

Craig David definitely to me. I'm actually going to the house literally after this interview. I do want to ask you, when these artists are, you know, looking to work with you, do you think they're looking for a specific sound, like is there an ebonize or sound that people are going for. I don't think there's a specific sound simply because I can do everything too. Uh. I would say a phenomenal standard of it be pop or and B hip hop up.

I got Billboard number one with a Korean boy band, So I don't think it's a specific looking for It's just they know whatever I'm going to give them, it's going to be amazing and not like everyone else's. Well, you gave us Bad Romance one. You know it was nice, but Bad Romance too? Now? Yeah, so bill them undertones in that and that the project a little darker. What's up with that bat Amantic too? Completely? Like it completely

ships on Batomantic one. Um, when I made that Romantic one, it was just literally God telling me, oh, you're a badomantic. You're terrible with communication, time keeping, etceter. So I took it almost as a joke and just made a Batromantic one, Like, ha ha, I know you said I'm a bad romantic, So it's bad romantic about Romantic two. I kind of

saw that hard. In a second, I think that actually right, because I really do struggle with time and I do struggle with communications simply because of how much work I do. Not only do I write produced mixed record all for myself, I do it for other artists as well. So it's it's a bit hard trying to find time to balance for myself. And when I finally get some free time, I want to spend it with myself. Sometimes I don't

get enough mean time. So Got Romantic two has much, like you said, a much darker undertone and it's more serious and it's literally was just addressing so many situations and relationships that I had been in. Um for instance, the one where I sampled Candy Bears. I was just about to ask you that about the h IF three Am sample Candy's don't think I'm not what made you a sample? Candy? Were you like a big Escape fan

growing up? Yeah? I grew up. See in my house, I was fortunate enough, like my sister was a big R and B head. She's older than me four years older than me, Big r and b head. So she listened to Escape, Cisco Boys, Two Men Branch, She listened to all of them. And then I had my brother. He was a big hip hop head. So I grew up on Nag jay Z, Big Girl, Big Punt two, Biggy. I grew up on like the legends and the Brace and people who stood for something, who said something. So

I was fortunate. And so I've got a back catalog of memories that are like all stored. And I was talking to my friend. I was like, Yo, I really want to sample when youvel and Nike. Don't think no, because literally, my the guy I was dating at the time literally always try to make me jealous, always post videos of herving a club with the ballers, her with the rappers, with the train darling like, if you can do I can do it too. I can be out

with the models. I got loads of my friends, loads of friends who are wow only friends I So it literally was just to address that situation, and it turned out it came out really dope, and Candy loved that. She posted on the Instagram. She said, it's amazing the flip that you've done on the record. And I love it. But I was like, are you guys done? Because I have my question. Man ahead, let's see these robes. Bro Come on, how much approximately? How much was this that

role you have on? That's that's that looks like a four thou dollar rowd this cost a preety penny in a miracle. It's cost more than it does in the UK for clothes from the EU. So this one. I got this one in blue and I got this one in red. I have also got the Versaci Puppy I'm a Bitch edition Sashi Poppy on the weekend edition the Versaci Poppy meet me at the hotel. I did any black designers that make robes like this? Whish I knew?

I wish I knew. We're gonna find out. We don't damn you, We're gonna be We're gonna hit you on the Graham and all that instantly. Yeah, we're gonna make sure you have some black owned robes in that collection somewhere. Of course, I'm trying to do my own black owned like designs myself, funny contraction with my manufacturing company UM Overseas. So I'm just gonna try and get them to start speaking of black owned. How has it been as far

as protesting in the UK. Have you been a part of any protests or Unfortunately I couldn't go out simply because I'm high risk. I've got asthma, so I was advised not to go out to protests. But I've so desperately wanted to. UM. But I'm literally on my phone seven just just trying to you know, I'm trying to stay connected. UM. I keep telling people UK is the father of colonial racist and you know, oppression because the UK started, UM America just continue to end it well,

although it's continued in the UK as well. UK it's very racist. We we tried to take down some statues like people ya gonna ask about Bristol. Yeah, and imagine here, So the UK waters are very dirty and muddy. After we got thrown in, you had like members of Tommy Robinson's like fascist organization dive into the water to fish you out. The heck out of here. You have to be to dive in the water to fish you out. Discussing, I wondered where the descendants are, like with all these

statues coming down, where are their families? Are they buying? Another information that was just found out so in the UK to apologize to the slave owners for making them lose so much money, the government decided to give them over sixteen point eight billion pounds So two thousand and fifteen. Since three thousand fifteen, we have been us touchpayers have been paying the slave owners for reparation. Squeeze. No, it doesn't make any sense. We've been paying you because you're

no longer a slave owner. Wow, it's very subtle. It's very subtle. It's no, it's public. I've got videos on my part. I can send you videos of police grabbing me, putting me in a Headlook, police grabbing me from your car, police attacking me at my mom's house, trying to reason to my car. Get out. We're gonna break that, smash your car, and they've done the while it's going to me. I've gotta pulled on video. My friends offer every day,

we get it overtly in our faces. The ones that are subtle are the ones where you're trying to go and apply for a job and you have someone who is less qualified. Um, and then you have a black person with an African name like Quake Kofia wants to and he's got a very high grade and just on his name alone, they know he's black. He's not getting

a job. You know what, I can say that it is blatant there because ball alert just posted a post of of somebody in the UK and they were trying to get into their house there in their neighborhood or something, and the police stopped him and said, you know I had stopped you because you're black. I had this this period. I was like over there. The only the only differences which um which pains me to say, is when we get arrested, I still know that I can go home.

In America, you don't know if you're going home, if that's gonna be your last interaction or not. Because your police have guns or police don't have guns. In order to have you have to go under um stringent training and like so you aren't just be bullied at school on one day decided to be I'm a cop. I'm going to become a cop and I'm going to get a gun and be able to It doesn't make no sense. It takes longer for you to become a barber to go through barber training then it is to be a

police officer and get a gun. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds. It's nobly no sense. And then when you try to explain to someone all lives matter, Yes, we agree, but for some reason, black the black lives doesn't seem to matter amongst a vast majority of people. And so how can that all lives matter statement be true? It's a false positive. It doesn't make sense, and it's always coming from people who say I don't see race, I don't see color, And honestly, that's the problem. We

don't want to feel like you don't see us. We're trying to tell you we'red here and we're having a problem with how we're It's like, hey, guys, don't forget about us. I think Jane Elliott said it best when she said, if you wish to be treated like an African American, please raise your hand. Then no one did, and she said you must not understand the question. If you like to be treated like an African American, please

raise your hands. Again nobody did, and she said that means you must know, understand it and accept it, but you don't want it for yourself, which is not okay, very real. Do you see a lot of um? How is it now? In the UK as far as the protesting are they, you know, you see a lot of whites out there with the blacks, you know, trying to protest every day like it is here every day. Um. I have friends calling me, white friends saying how can

I help? What can I do? Um? So some crying on the phone like I'm so sorry I didn't see this? How have I been oblivious to it? And sometimes like for for a white person who lives in a countryside, who is not in a densely populated area like London, who's not gonna see the police brutality, doesn't mean it

doesn't happen. We've been screaming this for decades, for years, for centuries, like yo, this is what's going on, Like we need to do something about and it's not for It's not for us to do something about, you about it. So we need our fellow white people to stand up and fight with us, because we can't end this by ourselves. We didn't start this. And there's the majority of people in the UK are white. The black Star because I do feel like the revolution is here. I definitely feel

like there is a big shift happening. But the reality is it would not have happened if we didn't have so many white people that finally get it. It's like it still had to be on their time for this to happen. I'm not too sure about that, simply because I think it would have went amiss if not for Corona, right know, I was gonna say, I think the quarantine had a forced focus on everybody. It's like there was no sports, no new TV, nothing to distract. You couldn't

even go anywhere. So I feel like that forced us to focus on the you know, situations at hand. And I feel like that that video of George Floyd just really you know how gruesome it was. It really everybody over the edge. Yes, Brian A. Taylor, you can kill someone about it sleeping. I don't get it. When you let off one shot, the gun re closed like it pulls your risk back after one shot. Do you not think, bro, the person hasn't put their hand up, the person hasn't moved.

Let me shoot again. That's two shots now and three the person sleeping. What massive worse is the people they were looking for. The person was already in custody. That's even worse. They were already incustoming. They don't care about our statistics. Don't get me started. We'll talk for a whole another hour. Man, E Benezer, we appreciate you so much. Bad Romantic to the single flaws and alls a million views?

How do you feeling about that? And I'm honestly so proud simply because I wrote some produced the song, which is something everything by myself. Oh man, So you seeing a hunder That's what I fumbled the bag because I have the bag. So I'm just I'm still there. I'm gonna tweet that, sure. I'm just I'm super grateful to everyone who was supporting, especially because I'm from London as well, for you guys to take like take to the song like it is no TikTok dances, no gimmicks to straight music.

I'm just I'm ever so grateful. That's super proud. What's that tell everybody where to follow you? What projects you have coming up? What do you want the people to know? Uh? You can follow me? All myselfs are the same. I've kept it nice and simple, so at Ebeneze as well. So my name ebenez Are and then Ebeneze this world and I have music dropping, So I'm doing a badomatic two point five and the songs on it are don't I don't know if I even leak onto you guys.

Just come home. Music coming out, Like in the next week or two. I'm gonna have a new song out called Melan and it's an amazing song that's done. Yes uh, and then I've got five shopping So yeah, more music is coming in. I promise she's going to be dope. Thank you so much for stopping by the ball Alor Show Podcast. We had a blast talking to you and checking out your extensive robe collection. Hey, y'all, keep a lock though. It's time for a word from our sponsors.

Message there. My best friend and sister got me in the middle of some bullshit. My best friend dated this dude for about two years and then they broke up. Next thing I know, my sister got pregnant from the dude my best friend broke up with. I had no idea because I mind my business, but my best friend

want to fight my sister and me. She was fine before, she was fine before the baby was born, and said she knew I didn't have nothing to do with it, But when my nephew arrived, it was big smoke and she wanted to fight my sister and me, so we're not friends anymore. Should I try to get my friend best friend back? Or should I leave that alone? Okay, y'all know me. I I can't do too much drama. Leave it alone. Shout Let's sounds like, yeah, you're gonna

be an auntie or you're gonna be a best friend. Yeah, what's more important being auntie being being with your best friend? I think, but she listen all that was. I don't know. That's kind of messy. I'm staying out of it. I'm falling back. But if you come down, you can come and trying to fight meet my sister and you beat my sister up. I mean, am I gonna let you beat my sister up? Now? It's like blood and water. You know which one is more important to you? That's

a tough one, but I'm staying out of it. Don't get your fresh best friend back, leave alone. She ain't your best friend? Or maybe the family and who is this dude? Yeah, I was gonna say, maybe her sister ain't really her sister for all we know, maybe her sister had has been doing trifling things to her for you, dude, The dude knew what he was doing too, But hey, man, that's a lot, that's a lot going on. Yeah, stay

out of that assist. Yeah, I think it's pretty much a rap because even if you try to get your best friend back, I mean, your sister is always gonna be your sister. Your nephew is gonna have to fight your best friend. I think your best friend gonna fight you. I think that. I mean, if they have to fight,

fight and get it over. But as far as repairing the relationship, I think obviously, like she's going to have to review each relationship because I'm sorry, sometimes you know your your blood is they might not be the right people for you. You know, um, we don't know. It's her sister, Trifling is the man, Trifling is the best friend Trifling who is the most trifling person in the crew. And if you can't figure it out, leave them all alone. And it ain't your damn faulty. Yeah, it's not your

fault y'all. I think everybody just need to move on. I think you just need to go on to be an anti because blood is forever. I'm not sure the relationship with you all, but you know, I think the relationship between you and the best friend is pretty much over at this point. Yeah, it's like a Jordan and Kylie situation. Just let it be good, good one right there soon with all the nation. We want to say thank you for joining us, um and tuning into another

episode of the ball Alert Show. Before we head out, though, our very young Ferrari Simmons has imparting ones. Hey man, uh, you know I was gonna go future, but I ain't doing that right now. It's got we got a lot going on out here. Um, and I gotta leave with a quote I saw on Instagram. I actually don't know the author of this, but um, I will say it anyway. We said black lives matter, right, We never said only black lives matter. We know all lives matter, but we

just need some help. We need your help with black lives matter because black lives are in danger. We'll see you next week. Peace. So glad there wasn't a future quote. Thinks that the dream is real