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Using Data to Predict Bitcoin Price with Continuum Market

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While the world is focused on the FTX debacle, there are many things happening in the broader economic, political and cultural marketplaces. How can we assimilate all the happenings to determine how to best position ourselves for success?

Today we welcome Kristina Bruhahn of Continuum.market to the show to make sense of it all. Known to many in the industry as “datapoints”, Kristina makes a compelling case for where things are headed, and ties it all together with a shocking Bitcoin price prediction.

You don’t have to be a pointyhead to enjoy data. But you do have to be bad to listen to episode #650 of The Bad Crypto Podcast.

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Joel Comm

While the world is focused on the FTXs debacle, there is many things happening in the broader economic, political and cultural marketplaces. How can we assimilate all of these happenings to determine how to best position ourselves and our families for success? Today we welcome Christina Brew Hon of Continuum Dot Market to the show to make sense of it all.

Known to many in the industry as data points, Christina makes a compelling case for where things are headed and ties them all together with a shocking Bitcoin price prediction. You don't have to be a pointy head to enjoy data, but you do have to be bad to listen to this Episode number 650. Of the Bad Crypto podcast.

Travis Wright

Five, four, three. How are you all? Okay. Who's bad?

Joel Comm

Hey, guess what? It's the Bad Crypto podcast. I'm Joel. Comm. That's Travis, right? Who are you? What's your name? Speak slowly so we can understand you.

Travis Wright

I can't hear what they said. It's sorry. I know you like this.

Joel Comm

A little bit louder now. Be a little bit loud. And now come on and shout it now. We're bad. How are you? It's a good day because we've got data points coming out of our ears. So many data points.

Travis Wright

A lot of data points. And we might as well just jump right on in here. That's a pretty it's a decent length interview.

Joel Comm

So, yes, you guys are going to be fascinated by this. I guarantee that you'll be fascinate. You're going to be so fascinated. Nobody's ever been as fascinated as you're going to be by this interview that we did with Christina Bruton of Continuum Dot Market. And we'll talk about what we talked about on the other side of talking about it. As we try to prognosticate and predict what is next for the crypto world. There's a lot of different places we can look. We're not just looking at the crypto

space and what's happening with RTX or BLOCKFI. We're not just looking at the stock market. We're not just looking at what's happening in politics and current events. We're not just looking at social sentiment. We need to look at all of it. And fortunately today we have the CEO and founder of Continuum Dot Market. She's a friend of the show, Christina Bruen. Some call her data points because she looks at all of these data points and feels like she's got a pretty good grasp on what her

crystal ball is saying. Christina, welcome to the show. It's been a while.

Kristina Bruhahn

Well, thanks, Jill and Travis. It's great to be back.

Joel Comm

Yeah. So let's let's let's start with some credibility here because people are going to want to know why are you qualified and how are you qualified to gather and interpret, extrapolate results from the data points?

Kristina Bruhahn

Certainly So not to brag, but I have a 15 year data background in Fortune 500. I discovered blockchain a little over five years ago and jumped right into the deep end with Wall Street Analytics attempting to use time series forecasting to predict the price of Bitcoin. Long story short, you can't. The regime changes every two months and it's tied to bigger global macro factors like political regimes by country adoptions. Geolocation is a big factor and it really

has a lot to do with sentiment. So at Continuum, we see the price of these coins almost secondary to the actual metrics of their adoption. And their adoption comes primarily from credibility, trust and actually onboarding new users, obtaining testimonials, and in general, having a positive contribution to the blockchain economy. I do look at a lot of data points and all of those data points matter, which means every brand, that continuum is a unique snowflake that needs different things

at different times. And that's what we're building. Our infrastructure is to support the evolution over the next decade as we approach global cross-border payment infrastructure and multiple countries understanding what that means to their tax code.

Joel Comm

You know, if you don't mind a hot potato, I would consider a logo for a T-shirt or a hat that says DPI data points matter.

Kristina Bruhahn

I would be okay with that. I definitely have some swag campaigns. I'm just here for the data points is one of my favorites. Nerd out, also a data nerd. All of those are applicable and I'm very proud that the industry has nicknamed me data points. As you know, over a year ago when I had my market analysis podcast, we I said data points. So often they used a drinking game with it and I said, Please don't play this drinking game. You'll have liver disease in 5 minutes.

Travis Wright

Especially now while you're driving.

Kristina Bruhahn

Really bad plan, good analysis, good analysis.

Travis Wright

So I want to ask this. You have all these data points. What is the actionable side of things? All right. Because you're out there pulling all this interesting information about certain brands. What are people doing with it once they get it?

Kristina Bruhahn

So the biggest thing right now is we are a we're a database for the blockchain industry from the blockchain industry. So the biggest component of that is actually warm introductions, partnerships, things that actually help the brand move forward in their milestones. So it's not just about assessing their 2023 landscape or

even their 2024 landscape. It's about unblocking those things and helping them move faster all the way to being able to have a red carpet all the way to Capitol Hill in order to have government relations to defend your blockchain use case.

Joel Comm

Is, as we look here at the website, I went to brand pages. This is on Continuum Dot Market and there'll be links in the show notes and you could see some of these dossiers and brands that that you're

working with and the coins that you're covering. Let's just jump right to the question that I think a lot of people are going to want answered, and that is in this political environment, with centralized exchanges being scandalized, elections being questionable, at the very least, the inflation being at, you know, crazy highs, the housing market on the precipice. You take all of these data points together and what does it mean to the future of the global economy,

the U.S. economy, the crypto markets, Bitcoin? Ahead and just let loose on what you think. And I'm assuming you're not a financial advisor. So this is just what you see.

Kristina Bruhahn

This is not trading advice. This is me reading the landscape. And this is pretty much why I've gotten 50 unsolicited calls this week asking me, what do you think is going to happen? So make.

Joel Comm

This 51.

Kristina Bruhahn

I'm okay with that. I'm okay with.

Joel Comm

That unsolicited call or like, Hey, let's talk.

Kristina Bruhahn

So that's what I'm here for, is actually to that. That's the origin of Continuum. I knew that my cousins were never going to do the five years of research to understand the nuances between these brands and why they're a unique snowflake. So let's start four years ago. So with my analysis into Time series forecasting, we found out that, you know, from a mathematical standpoint, quantitative easing was unsustainable and that meant that we were leading towards an inevitable recession.

Now they've kicked the can down the road quite a bit on that, even with some of the COVID things. And printing $10 trillion helped kind of stave off that global recession that was already mathematically going to happen. And you can go back the last four years in my content and see me kind of calling the landscape on that. Where we're at right now is they've run out of

road to kick the can down the road anymore. And already before, two weeks ago, before the FTC's fiasco, we were already predicting that January was going to establish some pretty clear statements from Capitol Hill and regulations in that they were going to be looking at the crypto industry and saying, we need to address stablecoins. We don't want circling Coinbase's Usdc to be in charge of that. We want to do our own internal CBD sees there needs

to be a structure around that. And by the way, you can't trust these mom and pop blockchain brands because they're not going to protect your data, they're not going to protect your funds. Instead, you should you should put your trust in these banking blockchain solutions like Jp morgan and Bank of America, which is the opposite of what we want to see happen in the Web3 space. Our web3 space started to get away from centralized authorities like that.

And really any blockchain brand is interrupting a middleman economy. And those middleman economies are tied to things that have existed for hundreds, if not thousands of years. And those middleman economies are not going to die slowly. There's going to be a lot of pushback. So seeing that landscape, I knew that the blockchain brands were going to need really an army to rally around them and be able to defend that they are in fact impacting people in

a good way. They are in fact a good thing for U.S. consumers, and that has to be proven out on a case by case basis. So part of what we're doing at Continuum, besides the intake process and standardizing the narrative of all of these brands, is tracking their growth over the next two years. We're looking at sales daily active users, assets under management, community metrics, all of those things that these brands are now posting on Twitter. Oh,

we're being so transparent. Look at our assets, look at our holdings. We've been asking for that at Continuum for over two years now. So it's a good time for us to kind of self organize as a blockchain industry because we're going to need the entire community coming together to push back on some of these legal cartels and the illegal cartels that make the money of the world go round. That's called the global economic engine. Any time

you're impacting the global economic engine, watch out. They have bigger teeth than we do. We're going to have to prove it through data and we're going to have to prove it through adoption. We're going to have to prove it through testimonials. And that's what we're trying to create it. Continuum is a place for all of that to live, so my cousins can go to one website and say, What is it? Why should I care? What does it do? How do I make money with it?

Travis Wright

That's fascinating. Fascinating for sure. And I want I don't even know if you know about this, but I'm going to bring it up because I think it's just it's insane to me. So there's this company called Token SAF that's based in California. I don't even know about them. But basically what they've done, according to this data that I that I pulled up, they created a list of 5000 of their KYC clients and they literally publish the KYC details on the blockchain, and that includes their full names,

their wallet addresses, their real home addresses. That to me is the worst kind of use case of the, you know, like even if you're pissed off at your customers, you don't go all, you know, scorched earth on people, right? So I don't really have any question around that other than what the hell is going on.

Kristina Bruhahn

Well, I'll double down on that and tell you more of that might happen. So that's actually one of the concerns with the FTC or excuse me, the FTC's bankruptcy lawsuit is that that data might be revealed. And here in Web3, we have a massive interest in protecting privacy and being able to have a shield up if we want it. We're very open to doing KYC, AML, and that should be something that lives in our digital identity. And we carry with us in a wallet that is

safer than metamask. I have some solutions for you guys. So if we're if we're looking at all the way forward a decade in the future of what The Jetsons future means is all this technology converges. You're looking at being able to be verified on blockchain. You're looking for those data packets to be able to be passed back and forth between the systems. And you're looking at interoperability and just on a completely new level that we've never

seen before in human history. So we need to be aware that everything has now changed and it changed 13 years ago when Satoshi released the White paper. But my cousins and politicians especially still have a very difficult time grasping what that means. And if you look at from a scientific level, which is where I come from, my ultimate stakeholder is Neil deGrasse Tyson. I want him to come in and poke it with a sharp stick and

bring all the data scientists in. But if you look at historically from a scientific level, invasive species usually decimate native species, and these native species have a lot of things to fight back with. They have a lot of tools at their disposal. So don't think that they're going to go down easy. It's going to take a collective narrative not just from the US, but from a global position. And the biggest data point that can help that is

GDP increases, right? So if you're in Nigeria and all of a sudden your constituents are able to earn more money than they've ever seen in their lives, that literally changes the landscape of your economics within your country. The US knows this, and they also know that they govern with the global economic engine with the US dollar. So they have to be very, very careful and they're going slow. That doesn't mean that you can't be domiciled and still

have to instill touch US consumers. Any brand that has even one U.S. consumer, you're under the purview of US regulation. So you better be prepared about what that means.

Joel Comm

It tweaks me when we reference The Jetsons. I grew up watching The Jetsons. We were promised flying cars.

Kristina Bruhahn

You.

Joel Comm

And robots. And what do we get? Tik Tok dances and gender confusion. I just I'm like, Why aren't we there? Come on.

Kristina Bruhahn

I should have this memorized. But I believe that George Jetson is born next year. I believe that he is born next year. And that's where we should be. And this isn't.

Travis Wright

Flying cars yet, right? A result we still have a few years to these flying cars.

Kristina Bruhahn

You've got patents, you've got patent issues around the big tech companies that are sitting on patents that don't want this game changing tech to come out. You've got blockchain innovators that are doing things because the ones and zeros can do them, not even knowing that they're getting close to things that are regulated and have, you know, have a rule based system around them. So a lot of this is education. And to your point, I want the flying cars. I want smart cities. I know it can

all be done with data. You know, we've got Sophia, the robot in ecosystem as a speaker, along with 140 other blockchain brands, so that the world can start to understand this bleeding edge technology that these brands can collaborate and not have to build it all themselves. There's a lot of moving parts in bringing about this next future.

Joel Comm

So be it pisses me off too. I'm like, That's.

Kristina Bruhahn

A whole other thing.

Joel Comm

That is a whole other thing.

Kristina Bruhahn

Okay, three modes to Sophia. Let's be real about that, though. That's an important data point to understand.

Travis Wright

Yeah. So I want to talk about George Jetson real quick. So George Jetson, he was born in July of 2022. That's when he was born. And he was like in his forties. Jane was actually 33 years old during the show, and then their kid was actually like 18 or something. So there's some. Math doesn't work on this whole thing. Or George Jackson was a pedophile.

Joel Comm

Yeah, okay. That's a whole other conspiracy.

Travis Wright

I just went down. I just did the math. I was like, Wait a second. So just thought I'd throw that out there. I mean, Travis.

Kristina Bruhahn

Brought some data points.

Travis Wright

How about some data points? Yeah.

Joel Comm

All right. I want to know what it means, though. Here we are in the middle of this collapse of centralized exchanges, massive scandal that arguably ties back to a single political party, maybe both, but definitely hedges towards another. And the corruption goes all the way, it appears, to the top of the globalists and the World Economic Forum. What does this mean for crypto? All of a sudden?

The news comes out today that 12 banks are going to be test piloting central bank, digital currency, digital dollar over the next 12 weeks. I mean, are we this close to becoming enslaved by the government? You know, is freedom about to be tossed away?

Kristina Bruhahn

Okay, that's a lot to unpack, Mr. Joe.

Joel Comm

Unpack it nicely. Okay. Get get me.

Travis Wright

All or let me answer right.

Kristina Bruhahn

Now. Let me let me try and create some buckets there. So first you've got the team. You're going to.

Joel Comm

Make a list of bucket.

Kristina Bruhahn

Yes, I'm going to data points. I always make a data points list. All right. So you've got the FTSE scandal, which has to do with leverage and propping up things that should have been allowed to fail. That was over leveraged by a bunch of other trading institutional folks. I don't want to say their names, but they're all over Twitter making announcements this week about, yes, we were impacted. We have to pause withdrawals. That's going to create a

domino effect. And so this is actually very similar to Lehman Brothers, where they called in the loans and then the whole everything collapsed because it was being propped up and didn't actually have the real meat and potatoes behind it. So that's what's going on with FTI. The interesting thing, as the exchanges are kind of doing a war zone right now is that I know too much and I'm under NDA for too many brands. So I'm aware of the exchange of the other centralized exchanges that are in

the exact same boat. A lot of the community is now calling for decentralized exchanges, but even decentralized exchanges are going to need some level of regulation in order to play in the Nasdaq nicey type of US ecosystem. So that's one thing that's that's going to be a domino that continues through the end of the year to topple things over. And that domino toppling things over, I would argue, is probably the worst thing that's ever happened in the industry.

For every rug pull that's ever happened, for every bad thing that's ever happened, for every scam artist, for all the people that are not allowed at Continuum, this one is probably the worst because he was perceived as the golden boy of regulation and he was in talks with the SEC, which means how did the SEC not see this? And also there is now this stickiness around. Were they using stocks to move funds from Ukraine back to Democrats? And was this a money laundering situation? Did the Democrats

ask for this? Well, my research at Continuum before two weeks ago and I've said this in many, many, many, many podcast, is that in January 2023, they were going to have regulation that was anti crypto anyway. Obviously the SEC is the biggest proponent of like, no, you guys can't do that. Your security until proven otherwise. They were

already going to do that. And I used to joke and I joked on camera that ha ha ha, we'll see a rebalance in November volatility, which is normal and December kind of closing out the end of year, which is normal. So you'd see a price dip in December and then, ha ha ha. Wouldn't it be funny if the US government was like, Oh, crypto actually triggered the entire global recession? And I'm like, How absurd would that be? And now I'm looking at this play out going, Oh God,

my conspiracy theorist friends might actually be correct. And I don't know, but it's it lines up a little too effectively, except for the fact that Sam Bankman-fried is now nuclear toxic. And I don't know if he would trade the rest of his life in doing what he loves and what his brain is trained to do for these billions of dollars. I don't know. Joel, would you stop working for billions

of dollars? I don't know. Logically, from a psychological perspective, I could argue both sides of that leaning towards a yes, billions of dollars.

Joel Comm

I would personally, I would never want to be a billionaire. That is that's too much money for somebody to have. And I don't want a target on my back. It's just it's crazy if you ain't got that much.

Travis Wright

To know, you're a billionaire. No, I would be even if you had it happen. You like. Woops, I'm a billion. Well, I'm not going to let anybody know.

Joel Comm

Yeah. No. There's filings, there's public records. People would know, like they know who's got the money and it's public in like, All right, how how quickly can I give a bunch of this away? Because.

Travis Wright

Yeah, I don't want it. So I want to add this on.

Kristina Bruhahn

My continuum wants more publicity. We want more transparency of things like that. We want actual.

Travis Wright

Has to be in.

Kristina Bruhahn

Their their holdings.

Travis Wright

Yeah, we'll have plenty of transparency like proof of what's in your vault. Like, if you're an exchange, you need to have a proof of that. Like, how are you not doing that?

Joel Comm

Leave it to Travis to want proof of transparency Pot. That's a love.

Travis Wright

Pot. I love it. I think we should only have pot at Continuum.

Kristina Bruhahn

We call it transparency as a service. And a lot of that has to do with collecting the data directly from the brand. We're not selling the brand. We're literally letting them tell their story. I'm under NDA for every one of these brands. I know too much and I know too much in order to help them connect the dots on the back end or remediate issues that might be challenging for them and really help them go faster. But the transparency part is what my cousins are missing

is what the politicians are missing. And keep in mind at Continuum, we have four major quadrants that kind of covers everything. You've got Main Street, you've got Blockchain Street, my people, right, CTOs ones and zeros rule the world. You've got Wall Street, how the global economic engine responds to it, and then you've got Capitol Hill. And unfortunately,

all roads in this industry lead to Capitol Hill. We have got to unify and self-organize and what we're going to be presenting as good versus bad to you as legislation. This is a call to arms to the entire blockchain industry. Call me. You can reach me at Christina at Continuum Dot Market on Social at Continuum 3000, we have a red carpet ready to the politicians that want to have these conversations and all US citizens are welcome to be

part of this. I have a vision in the next decade of blockchain voting, of being able to have insight into bills and things that are on the floor and actually hold your elected officials accountable, that you're not just voting them out every two years, but you're actually working with them to understand what is the landscape. The education that is needed in America is ridiculous and that needs

to extend out to a global footprint as well. We're talking blockchain, blockchain literacy, data literacy on your data and why you should be mad that they're making trillions of dollars off of your data right now. They're not going to want to give that up. You've also got financial literacy, which is not taught in schools, and if you want to understand the DEFI game, you need to be pretty literate in financial concepts. And we say all the time

that crypto is Wall Street on crack. They're not doing anything that Wall Street isn't already doing. And how much are they? How much is Wall Street being held accountable for this kind of stuff? How many times is Bank of America been embroiled in a, you know, embezzlement scam? You know, for multiple states, these are things on a level that they almost feel untouchable. And we as constituents

need to push back that. No, you're not untouchable. And yes, there is transparency and we can hold you accountable.

Travis Wright

Oh, that's so that's so cute. They're not held accountable. Nobody in Capitol Hill is held accountable because it's almost like you're part of the gang. If you're part of the gang, you're not going to get in trouble. If you're not part of the gang, well, then the justice hammer will come down on you. So I just read I read this earlier today on Bitcoin magazine that global banking giants are starting a 12 week CB DC pilot with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York starting immediately.

So then what we know or what we think we know about after X and we can see because we've seen some of these records where, you know, even Mitch McConnell got $2.5 million from, you know, from FCX, right? So it's like you have a bunch of money, the Ukraine money goes in the air, RTX filters it to these politicians. So of course, they don't want accountability. Of course they want a central bank, digital currency, and they want to say, oh, crypto caused this crash because they're assholes.

Quite frankly I.

Kristina Bruhahn

Think I think you're paraphrasing is a expected narrative by January 20, 23. Now, too. Two things to unpack there. Number one, you've got the the politicians essential. Number one, you've got the Cbdcs. Now, banks have been publicly denouncing anything blockchain related for five years. Meanwhile, quietly working on their blockchain protocols and their corbynites.

Travis Wright

Right.

Kristina Bruhahn

On the politician side, for five years they've been publicly denouncing blockchain. Meanwhile, we know that Office of Management and Budget has been exploring with blockchain. We know that the financial infrastructure, we know that the state level and the federal level has been exploring with blockchain and we. Also know that the Red administration under Trump was desperately trying to be able to announce the cbdcs and the banking infrastructure as the same as they were trying to take

credit for the cannabis release. So this crypto cannabis bags of cash infrastructure actually goes hand in hand. And it is not a very popular opinion on Capitol Hill to change the status quo. Right. That's going to mess with how they make money and that's going to mess with how they know how to, you know, glad hand and trade what they call chits. And so if you guys think of Capitol Hill, what we see on TV is very much like a play, a staged performance. Right. What

happens behind the scenes is incredibly different. And they don't want to let go of the status quo. Now, there are a few small number of politicians that are ready to work with us and absorb everything that the blockchain industry has to offer. But that's a very small percentage of the actual elected officials in Washington, DC.

Joel Comm

So. There's an answer that I'm hoping you can give me. My kind of asked it, but I didn't ask it completely. If all of this plays out like you are saying you believe it will. What does this mean to the overall economy? Like, is the stock market are we going to see a crash here pretty soon? And have we seen the bottom for Bitcoin? And if not, where do you think it is?

Kristina Bruhahn

Oh, okay. Not trading advice. This is not trading advice. We've been predicting a global economic recession for over four years now. I don't see how. We have also predicted for six months on record, we have been saying they're going to wait until after the midterms and they're going to let the Fed rates impact start truly hitting in Q1 and Q2 of 2023. This means consumer price index that has been high for absolutely no reason may need to reset. This means the real estate market, which has

been high for absolutely no reason. This means that the consumer credit crunch and the institutional credit crunch are all going to kind of rear their ugly heads in Q1 and hopefully by Q2 some things are leveling out. But when you look at a bear market, it generally takes

270 days to kind of get through it. And sometimes it is for now, the Wizards that I work with, the mathematicians and the technical analysts that I work with, they have predicted that this recession will be a global recession worse than 2008 and that it will reset the value of the dollar. Now, if the dollar is getting reset,

everything is getting reset. I mean, this means price of meat, agriculture, energy, precious metals, all the things that make the world go round is all going to get reset based on supply and demand. And unfortunately, those supply and demand gatekeepers have been in power for a very long time, doing some very not mathematically backed things with those ecosystems. So one of the biggest things that blockchain does to interrupt that

is provide the clarity on the supply chain. And so if you're applying blockchain technology, it starts to erode some of that money shell game that the gatekeepers have been able to do up until now. So I would expect from January 2023 across the next 18 months to mid 2024, that this is going to be an insanely tumultuous time in the markets that we have never before experienced. It will come out in the wash around GDP. But there's so many countries that have taken bad loans that they

may also end up going bankrupt. Not to mention the nefarious things that you've got from both China and the US going into other countries and buying up things like energy and precious metals and reserves. So anything that's considered a commodity is going to get reset. The US dollar is going to get reset. That means that Bitcoin will not be seen as a store of value. You could absolutely see it go below ten K. And we have

called the bottom for over a year now. When the recession actually hits, it could go as low as three and a half, maybe even lower. This is about value and where people start buying again when it gets so low, when there's blood in the streets that people go, I'll buy that. That's where you start to see that the tides change. But that won't happen until the massive slide happens.

Joel Comm

And I just I want to pull this tweet I just spotted right here, just just broke. New York Fed says household debt increased by 2.2% in quarter 3 to 6 and a half trillion, a 15% increase, the largest increase in credit card balances in over 20 years. This seems to just dovetail right on what you were saying.

Kristina Bruhahn

I am not at all surprised by that. That's real data points. Those are the data points I don't have memorized. But that's where our instinct goes, is that BTC is not going to be seen as an alternative store of value during this recession. It's going to go down the drain along with everything else. And when the human species decides this thing is of value, then they'll start buying it and that starts bringing it back up to wherever

the price point is going to settle. I do believe it will be 2025 until we see another 60 all time high of Bitcoin.

Travis Wright

Hmm. So let me ask you this. You know, so one of the things that that Joel and I talked about over the years was how great will it be when a lot of these corporations are doing security tokens? Right. Instead of instead of, you know, having stocks which are manipulated. Right. The stock market's completely manipulated, you know, And then so so what about security tokens? Because I'm looking at the total market cap. It's like stock market icon. You can

go and look. It's like $14 billion is the total stock market cap, which seems really low to me because there's a lot of really big companies. How long? And so we see the proliferation of security tokens.

Kristina Bruhahn

I think first you're going to see the proliferation of utility tokens. I think that what's happening right now with Fortune 500 brands, what I call the household brands, these are brands like Eminem's. I pick on them all the time. Shout out to Eminem. They're doing things in the metaverse and with NFT is with reward economies, with discounts, with loyalty programs, things like that that can all be handled

with a utility token. And so the adoption of a utility token as a data packet to say, yes, this thing happened and now we can go ahead and give them a reward. I think that's step one. Step two, what you're talking about technically, step three, because step two would be a hybrid of saying we should have a security token. But the security token is what you're talking about, where basically anything to do with profit sharing is going

to fall into the realm of security. Token doesn't matter if you're using NFT for it doesn't matter what background, if it has profit in it, If you're sharing profit, you're probably a security. So that being said, now you're getting into some new structure and new legislation, and this is why we actually have an advocacy and lobbying arm at Continuum is because things like employee stock options programs will now be a revenue share for, you know, potential

Fortune 500 brands. What you're talking about, Travis, is kind of releasing the Kraken, right? Like you're opening the floodgates at that point. If we don't.

Travis Wright

Release all the corrections.

Kristina Bruhahn

If we don't have safe lanes of commerce and established tax code, even the Fortune 500 brands will get hit on their wrist for doing things like that. And so there's this counter movement in Capitol Hill to be ready to support the BlackRock's and the JPMorgan's and the Halliburton's and the M&;M brands.

Travis Wright

And Nestlé is taking on all the crappy companies.

Kristina Bruhahn

Like I'm telling you need to understand. You need to understand that the rules that apply to a good company also apply to a bad company. You need to understand tech team and intentions. You need to understand nefarious actors need to understand what do you think that brand is going to do with that kind of power? To Joel's point, earlier, he said, If we get cbdcs, are we all just under surveillance at that point? Yes. Yes, that's exactly what it is. Are you going to focus back on that?

Are you going to come?

Travis Wright

You're just like, yeah, you're done. What happens when they don't like what Joel said and they don't like what Travis said? Boom. You don't count anymore.

Kristina Bruhahn

That's a different thing. So actually, to move down a weird rabbit hole so the media and entertainment companies own the rights to yet they own his likeness all live, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So they've actually started and I've heard this through the grapevine will need the brands to comment on it. This is not trading advice. They've started to digitize artists and take 10% of Kanye and 10% of. Nipsey Hussle and 10% of this and 10% of that. And put together an A.I.

character that's never going to flub up on Twitter. Right. That is a bigger sense of investment and revenue model for them that they get to outright own. Then dealing with a human that could potentially go off the rails. So now you're into AI and bleeding edge technology that has a blockchain back end. But we're really just dealing with the fact that these are all really hard concepts for my cousins to understand and for the politicians to understand.

But they're already here. And are you going to punish, you know, Atlantic Records versus Halliburton, Right. All of this kind of falls in the same category of legislation, and it's very, very murky waters.

Joel Comm

So you've got.

Kristina Bruhahn

We've we've done the best we can.

Joel Comm

You've got confused cousins because that's what that's what I want to say. Well, Christina, we appreciate you coming on today. The website Continuum dot market, you can sign up for for Christina's email newsletter over there and find out how to get involved, whether your brand or your crypto or your politician, whatever, if you want to be a part of a positive movement. Or meet her in Miami, you're going to be at Art Basel. Yeah.

Kristina Bruhahn

We sure are. We're doing a V VIP event with Miami Phantom Blue at Art Basel on Friday. The second you can get $800 off the ticket price using code continuum 800. So definitely take advantage of that. We have not only the blockchain brands and some of my favorite humans coming, but also some very big venture capital asset

capital management. So we've got a couple of folks. One person alone manages 2 billion, so I'd imagine we have about 5 billion assets under management at that party, not to mention celebrities like Baron Davis, who I was just at his house singing some Adele over some of his beats he was laying down. That was super fun. Everyone in Web three is welcome to join Continuum. You just have to be transparent about what you're doing and allow

us to track your journey for two years. If you're here to build a web3 world, we want to help you and we want to prove that you're actually safe for us consumers.

Joel Comm

Very nice and and we are pleased to also partner with you. And why don't you go and talk a little bit about what that means for bad crypto, the Nifty show, the nifty checks. Travis Right. Joel Calm this universe.

Kristina Bruhahn

Oh, I'm so excited about that. So this is really how Continuum interacts with the world. So we've got all these blockchain brands, right, but they want more exposure, and Travis and Joel are also speakers at Continuum, so we want to track where they're going to be and so that you guys can find them and get in contact with them. It's really a community of access to the best blockchain thought leaders and these blockchain brands. They want to be on shows like the Bad, Bad Crypto podcast.

They want to be on the nifty podcast, Nifty Chix. We have about 400 podcast, but you guys have the metrics that show quantifiable impact when the brands are actually participating. That's what we want to show. We want to show it continuum that they might have had a community of 2000 and then they went on bad crypto and now

they have a community of 10,000. We want to show those event triggers from a data science perspective and give you guys the credit for everything amazing that you're doing to impact the industry from not only events and media but also deal flow. The advisor ships you guys are doing, the conversations you guys have offline. You guys are chock full of data points. We want that all to be available at Continuum.

Joel Comm

That was just that was lunch. I'm chock full of you. Just like Thomasin a doll. Beat us because you blinded me with science, girl.

Kristina Bruhahn

That's what I do. Data Points.

Travis Wright

Thank you so much for coming on. We really appreciate it. And go to continue that market to hear more data points.

Kristina Bruhahn

Thanks, guys. I'll see you in either Miami or Puerto Rico, where we're going to be with Mike Turpin's Coinagenda Caribbean. So much love to bad crypto and the bad crypto family. Love you guys. Thank you for the work you do for the blockchain industry.

Joel Comm

That is one heck of a prediction, sir. Lord Travis for bitcoin to go all the way down to the 3000 range. What do you think of that?

Travis Wright

If that would happen. Like this is going to be a crazy, crazy time if that ends up happening. So hopefully that does not happen if it does happen. While we're all going to be in a world of hurt, I think if that does well.

Joel Comm

If that happens, I'm backing up the truck. I mean, that's like.

Travis Wright

Beep, beep.

Joel Comm

Beep. You know, give me a shovel and let me load up some BTC because.

Travis Wright

Wow, Loaded up. Loaded up. If that's the case, it's going to be crazy. So we shall see. We don't know. There's not financial advice, but it was some interesting data points from data points herself. And there you go.

Joel Comm

Yeah, we do encourage you guys to go check out her website continuum dot market links to it and some other things are in the show notes a bad code that I and forward slash 650 and right before we recorded this show I did an airdrop to bad crypto nifty club members. And if you are in the bad crypto nifty club and have the membership NFT, then you just received an NFT. See, there are now for some reason it's not showing them all here. I don't know what the deal is. I need to talk to Carlos

it uncut and say, Hey Carlos, why isn't the. But there's now been three NFT is dropped to to those people and this is what you want right here to make sure you qualify for the airdrops. Go to bad crypto dot uncut dot FM. Links again in the show notes and grab this bad crypto nifty club NFT right here. It's only $2.53 right now, and the only reason we charge for is because we don't want bots taking them for free. So go ahead and pony up and then you will get access to the airdrops that are coming

out and probably announce another one this week. Maybe you will do one. I know where we're talking to Brad Mills again soon. Brad Mills can on Twitter because he was the guy who called Luna before it happened. He was the guy who called Celsius before it happened. And I'll bet you he was calling you after, too. I want to know what he's calling next.

Travis Wright

Yeah, I wonder if he's calling Crypto.com and some of these other ones, because that's like, you know, gosh, if you just become so bad, if that's the case, right. Where the global markets crash, that's going to probably happen in our lifetime, if not sooner, then we would really feel comfortable around. We've been talking about it for a

long time. Fiat money always crashes. What has happened traditionally is countries would then reach an equilibrium around the amount of gold that they have and they would tie their currency to their gold that they have in storage. Is that going to happen now? Because all I know is that China has a lot of gold. Russia has a lot of gold. America doesn't seem to have as much gold as we would think they have. So what's next? We shall see.

Joel Comm

I don't know. All I know is this programmable dollar is scary. Dystopian level. George Orwell, 1984 stuff. And while not financial advice, if you want to consider it life advice, I don't think this is ever bad advice. To figure out how you can be as sovereign as possible. How to take as much control of your life, where you live, how safe you are, how much money you have, what you're able to to do with your life, where you

can go. These are questions you need to be asking yourself now before the hammer falls, because once the hammer has fallen, it's too late. So figure out what you need to do to set yourself up for success. For some people, that means moving to a different country. For some it means being somewhere rural where they're growing their own food right there. There's all kinds of alternatives. This is not a paid ad, but a site that I have referenced and subscribed to is called Sovereign Man dot com.

The guy goes by the name Simon Black. It's not his real name. I believe he lives in Puerto Rico as well. In fact, I'll pull it up really quickly. I'm not sure what I pay each month to to be able to have access to this information, but they do quite a bit of research on different countries and different economies and opportunities that are available. This is the the site right here, sovereign mankombu helping you gain more

freedom and prosperity. And this is the first place that I heard and read about moving to Puerto Rico to be able to legally keep more of the income that I earn and not have to pay taxes on all of it. So definitely recommend that you check it out and take control of your own stuff, gang, because nobody else is going to do it for you. The government is certainly not looking out for you.

Travis Wright

Hey, yo, I think we've set it off. Ladies and gentlemen, if you. A group Whose band?

Joel Comm

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