Hey, everybody, that's the American Nightmare Cody Rosen, and you were listening to the baby Faces on iHeartRadio. Hey guys, this is ww Superstar Timpty Strun and you're listening to the baby Faces on iHeartRadio. What's going on y'all? Is WWE Superstar Kobe Kingston and you're listening to the Babyfaces on iHeartRadio. Babyaby all right? You hear that music? That means we are back. New intro by the way, and courtesy of our guys Billy Fricket right there,
and I did some of the visual stuff. You can go check that out on our TikTok Instagram Facebook pages. Really really cool stuff. But it's back the two og baby Faces here, not really in person behind the flesh of course, had one hell of the last couple months with WWE guest on the show. And last time you heard of us, we were with our guy friend of the show, Cody Rhodes. He came in studio, we got to hold the championship belt. A lot of things are going on around
that time, especially Billy moving. He is season a little bit of a different background. Now he's moved back home. He is in he is back in northern Kentucky, his roots. He is now coaching for his Alma Manor High School. Dude, Billy Hive, you been man, I've been good, you know, getting settled here. I'm definitely gonna miss Louisville, but
you know you'll still see me around plenty. But yeah, it was good to get settled after literally moved the day after we interviewed Cody Rhodes, which was just freaking crazy, man, Like, what a crazy weekend that was, and what a crazy couple of weeks it was leading up to that. Just all the great guests that we were lucky to have on the show. You know, Cody Rhodes is like unbelievable that that that would even happen. Uh my figure him, dude, look at that ultimate sign front and back.
He was so freaking cool, so generous. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean for any anybody out there that's listening that's a die hard fan of Cody Rhoades, and I'm sure there are plenty because because he has so many fans, you know, meeting him is everything you you could expect it and wanted to be. He's just a class act every every part of the way and just really makes you feel like like you're his friend and and you know, we were just a couple of guys that that were interviewing him, so uh
it was really cool to do that. We had tip Tiffany Stratton on, which is really cool. Guys. We're big Tiffy time guys, our guy Austin Theory, uh for for the second time, so uh it was fun. Third time, Oh my goodness, th time. Yeah, well he needs a shirt now too. Yes, we got some shirts to give out. But yeah, so guys, right, but this week kind of getting back to to the meat and potatoes of the show, which is me and Austin, you know, talking wrestling, something we haven't done in a while.
Uh, but we also have an interview with with an OVW guy you know, again back to our roots a little bit on this episode Certified Bluke Curtis And if you've watched if you watch WW, if you if you've watched the Wrestlers documentary, you're definitely aware of who this guy is. He was the one that cut the promo on al Snow in that viral moment from from
Wrestlers, and his career is kind of like taken off since then. So stick around for you know, we're gonna talk about some stuff going on in wrestling right now and then that interviews on the back end of this episode. But Austin, I got a few things I want to talk about before we get to that. Let's do it. We're on the road to Summer Slam
right now. I don't want to hate on what w has been doing, but you know, in between WrestleMania and up till about now, it was getting kind of stagnant for me. I didn't have much reason to want to turn on Raw and want to turn on SmackDown every week like I was on the road to WrestleMania. But they've thrown in a couple of wrinkles and and that's how I know that, all right, We're we're back on to road to a big event with money in the bank on the horizon in Summer Slam.
Beyond that, one of the most intriguing things going on right now is certainly the arrival of the Wyatt Six and Uncle Howdy. I mean, just an incredible presentation of them and their for in their debut on Raw, and then followed it up this past Monday with the VHS tape of Uncle Howdie bo Dallas and that kind of interaction. So what are your initial initial thoughts on on kind of the White six and where you see this going and how you
how you feel they've done with it so far. Uh. I love the follow up, and I think the debut last week was one of the coolest things ever. Like you, me and I were texting about it, seriously, something out of like Field of Screams or something like a horror movie, something really cool. I mean, hell, they damn near committed murder to Chad Gable and he was able to kind of rise back in. But you know, once you kind of once it dust settles on that and you're like,
wow, what a sick moment. Hey, you have everyone that everyone was talking about it online. You had the meme that came out of the Chad Gable stuff, so that gets everyone talking. But once you kind of let that settle, and especially with you're one of those people that just like, all right, the bell has to ring and then what this does. Once we get into the ring and other storytelling, then that's when you kind of think, where is this thing going to go? And I thought that
this last week. I thought it was absolutely perfect with the VHS tape thing, and then you kind of got to see more or less. You got to see like the Uncle Howdie interviewing Bo Dallas or I wonder if he's even gonna go by Bo Dallas going forward maybe. And I heard our buddies over at or on the Bust Open podcast something that Bully Ray said just a couple of days ago was that was Taylor Rotunda speaking. That wasn't Bo Dallas,
that was Taylor speaking. And I think that's something that they had to run with. They have like a motive. They're playing off of real life stuff and talking about how did you feel after the death of your brother? And you know, even Boa or Taylor, I can only imagine how he feels
personally. And then just like career wise, because if you've watched the Wyatt documentary, that was going to be something that they were going to introduce Bo Taylor into the mix, and they were finally going to do them that thing theirselves, and of course, with the untimely passing of Bray Wyatt, that
whole thing was up in the air. Whether or not Bo Taylor Keith I don't even know what to call him, Whether or not Bou wants to wrestle or not, whether he wants to it even if he does, if he wants to continue on that legacy, and I thought it looks like they're going with it. And of course it had the debut something very what like you know why, it's always had kind of had the dark, supernatural type of
gig and that's always been like the coolest thing. But the detriment to somehow hardcore fans feel about him because there's not a lot of people that just kind of understand that horror stuff and sometimes it doesn't translate to wrestling, but it's gonna be pretty fun. I have a bone to pick with that wrestling at its core, and it's early days, you know, talking about the eighties.
It was built on crazy, weird, larger than life characters, right, yeah, and some of them supernatural Undertaker obviously comes to mind first, but you got like Papa Shango and like, uh, what was it Kamala or whatever? Yeah, yeah, where it was like you know, African
potion rituals and whatnot. Yeah, like there are there are very clear you know, there's precedence for supernatural acts and wrestling, and it's wrestling, y'all, like it's supposed to be goofy and weird and fun like that, and it's built on character, it's built on storyline, and this has that tenfold, right, Like this has that to the max and it's something that you makes you want to tune in to see, like how do they even explain what happened, you know, on that debut and what was going to happen
with Chad Gable and all that. So I think it really is lightning in a bottle. I always love acts like this. It's the reason I like bray White a lot too, with the whole Wyatt family early on, like just a super you know, intriguing, very creepy, uh you know, something that kind of it just your eyes glued to the TV when you're watching it. They can't help to do that. So I think it's brilliant what
they're doing, and I'm excited to see where it goes. Like you said, how that translates to the ring We'll see, like are there matches in store for an act like this or is it just kind of a group that reeks havoc? And you know, that's kind of where I'm at across roads with it, you know, like, how how can I see this translating to, you know, a great match, and that was I guess that
was kind of great. Why it's downfalling away too though, you know he was he was okay in the ring better in his early days and his Fiend days. Though it turned into more of like attraction rather than rather than a match, which is fine, right, but they kind of have to find
their footing and what they want to do with that. Yeah, I think some of the things that he's gotten into, especially with the Fiend, because everyone was excited for the Fiend, everyone was excited for the whole dual personality
thing. He came out at the Firefly Funhouse gimmick and then of course he translated to the Fiend and everyone loved his debut when he came out, and he ended up destroying Finn Balor, and it seemed like a lot of people fell off, not really fell off, but had a lot of criticism with
that Hell in a Cell match with Seth Rollins. It's not more or less like not more or less like the creepy side stuff, because I think like that whole match, it was all read some of the production stuff going with it, and I think Seth Rollins ended up winning because the referee called it
off. It's just somehow like how it's booked. And if you're gonna make the strong guy, then you shouldn't have a hell in a cell with the fiend and he's losing because the referee calls it off because Seth Rowlins throwing a bunch of shit on him. And then when he finally gets a title he
shouldn't be losing to Goldberg in Saudi Arabia. So I guess some of that stuff has to be on the booking and what they're doing more or less than like the actual characters, because that that's what makes it cool, that's what makes you know, it attractive, and those like you mentioned the earlier iterations of the Wyatt days. You know, he wasn't necessarily super natural. You know, he just kind of had the dark backwoods sort of gimmick and he
kind of had the thing that the Undertaker did. The lights of go out and then he would appear in the ring. You know, he wasn't doing stuff with his hands or you know, with the force or something that's causing that. Really just whatever Bray Whittt was doing in the beginning that translated well to the ring, especially with his whole the whole Wyatt family had his tag team. And the only thing that I have about is everyone's in the suits. Right. You got a guy in the pig costume, you have a
guy and and these are former wrestlers. You have gay Sy, You're gonna have a Nikky Cross and there Eric Rowan is back, and they're they're all a part of that stable. So I think the debut, the VHS tape was kind of like a good look into hopefully most of the time, ninety percent of the time, whenever you know, Bo Dallas does go to the ring, it's going to be more or less in that in person sort of thing. And it's seeming like the Uncle Howdie is more like an extension of
him, kind of how like the Fiend was to bray White. And I'm hoping that the rest of the characters get that too, because I mean, what do you I mean if a guy's coming to the ring with a pig mask and a costume and a giant hammer, I mean he should be able to win at all times, right, I feel like they're going to eventually, It's it's all going to be how it's produced and how they're going to
pull that out. I mean, there's a good case to be made that these guys can still come out as legit wrestlers and have you know, legit matches. So I'm definitely intrigued to see how that goes. And and of course why it's I thought it was important to have the why. Why is why is the Whyatts six doing what they're doing. Bo Dallas came out in a great way and explain why we feel like everyone forgot about me and I'm going to do this. So he got really really personal and it wasn't scripted.
That was spoken from the heart. And just like Bray White did he always he was a great promo guy because he had these cryptic messages and he had stuff that made you think and it was real. Well, whatever they're doing in the interview with Uncle Howdie and himself seemed very real. So that was a big major step in the next direction. I'm excited for it.
It's it's definitely now a reason people want to watch for all to see what's going to come next, because I already know that their production is amazing. They did that thing with Gable and Nikki Cross Crawdon who ring and ended up handing the box to Michael Cole and that was just super cool looking. So WW always does well with stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, that's that's the key, is being a reason that people want to tune in.
That's that's what being a drawl is and that's the of any wrestling acts. So yeah, like you said, I'm definitely excited to see see where that's going. And it's it's given me kind of an invigorating, you know, of a reason to turn on R all every week. And then you got small on the other end, and and I can see where people are. I've liked, you know, I haven't been in love with the new Bloodline
thing so far. I mean it's it's been fun and and but more or less, you're just kind of waiting for that next chapter because you know, you know, obviously they just signed a couple of new talents. There's so many Damn Samoans and other fatus and other on a yez out there to debut that could be used in this. So I think that's what's making this whole Bloodline thing continue to be fresh as who they can bring back, the who they can feature either like the usso's the USO's dad you can have Rakishi in
there somehow, you can have some other family members. Everyone's waiting for the Roman reigns that come back, but they're adding more layers to it. And let me tell you something. The debut of Jacob Fatu this past Friday Night on SmackDown was probably one of the best that they've had in recent memory. This guy came and tore through three main eventters and he If you haven't got to watch any of Jacob Fatu in any MLW or anything on the indie scenes,
you definitely need to go check him out. Because if you talk about like a dangerous dude, that's him. If you talk about like a freakish guy for his size, he might be one of the best out of the bloodline. And I think people have not gotten to see that yet and it's about to get it. It's about to get intensified. And they've kept him
away over the last couple of months. Remember during WrestleMania when they signed him, and at least I was thinking that he was going to be a big part in that big part in that main event, but they've been kind of keeping him silent and he's come out and this is not the speak weight or shame on anybody, but he is in perfect freaking shape. Somebody has been having them under their wing or they're down at the performance center somewhere and hiding,
and he looks just like an absolute killer. And I think it just brings so much more legitimacy to the bloodline and it gets me thinking, all right, what's next? Yeah, I mean I feel like that was another storyline that was getting a little stagnant, right. I mean, they had the tom Tanga debut, which which was cool, but the whole like Solo being being the head of the bloodline right now, people were kind of getting
stale on it. But now that I feel like, you know, we all know it's heading towards Roman Reigns coming back and take it back over, right, So that that's why people are intrigued. In the meantime, it's kind of just been like, well, okay, like it's just kind of there, but it's building, right. It's that slow Burns storyline that they've been really good at the last couple of years. And you know, once
Roman Reigns comes back, he's going to be absolutely nuclear. There's gonna be an awesome probably like War Games match where it's like his clan versus this this plan of the Bloodline for ultimate rights and all that. So I'm really looking forward to how that plays out. And it looks like, according to most reports, we're heading towards Cody Rhodes versus Soloska for the championship at SummerSlam.
And I can see him on one end where that might be a little like disappointing for some people, just because and his run with the Bloodline with Roman was kind of just used as like, you know, he was the enforcer, but like he would just be a random main event matches against whoever Roman was feuding with, and he would typically like lose those matches at a certain point, right, So I can see where people are like, all right, Solo kind of has lost like that heat, But I feel like he's
been building himself up with with this role and again it's all leading towards a bigger picture. So while that, you know, Cody Rhodes Versus Solo seems like a disappointing main event for SummerSlam, I wouldn't disagree with that, but also like, don't we expect Roman Reigns probably make his return if that is the main event of Summer Slam, like obviously they're gonna do something big to
make it bigger. That's where I see problem. There's so many layers to that story because just last year, before last years WrestleMania, Cody, I remember him kind of promo and Roman reigns how we just said, well you're looking at me, let me tell you something. Solo, You're not ready, So they kind of go back. So it's that kind of solo maybe taking that a little bit personally. Now he's kind of been able to shine a little bit on the uh, on the bloodline and kind of do things
on his own. Paul Hayman's doing a masterful job of being absolutely terrified of these guys. And I think I still have hope in solo Soca. I
don't know why everybody just kind of shits on him. I just I will say me personally, I loved when he was just like the silent Enforester and he was just kind of they kind of just ruined his his aura, if you will, like the kids say nowadays, because like he used to just be that silent killer and he was, I mean, he was undefeated for a while, but then eventually they just stopped doing that and and like fed him to whoever Roman Marines was feuding with, you know, yeah, and
he would just be on random main event matches on smackdowns and rolls, and you knew that he was going to lose every single time based like based on the pattern of how it was going. So they kind of they kind of ruined it in that way. But at least they've been building him back up with this whole storyline. And I feel like and Cody kind of a really good match, and you know, it seems like it's just probably it's not so much about the match rather than the moment of Roman probably returning at the
end of it or during it, whatever it might be. Right, It's kind of like when Roman, what was it Roman versus Edge at like money in the Bank and John Cena returned, right, that was such a huge moment, and it wasn't more it wasn't about like the Roman Roman versus Edge match as much as like, whoa Roman versus John Cena? All right, Now, now we got something to get excited about. So I feel like that's where we're heading with with that, with that side of things. But
no, absolutely not. You think there's a case for Solo to to be champion or no no. Cody was the first person that in Solo was Undefeated Street that was on the SmackDown right before WrestleMania thirty nine, So that just adds on more layers to their story. It seems like they gave Solo the opportunity to literally squash John Cena and he's been kind of on a losing streak
since then. So I mean, does he lose cleanly to Cody Rhodes as he come back and he's fake head of the table and that's what brings Roman Reins back. That's going to be pretty interesting. Or they just give it all back to the Bloodline and put the blood Line right back over again.
But I like you said, I don't think because WWE they've been doing such a great job at just having the drama that's caught on camera if you guys watch it Clash of the Castle, once the Bloodline came out, Once Solo came out and had his eyes set on the title, they got chased off by Randy Orton and Ko you had that moment where Randy Orton is kind of looking a little sideways at that title that Cody Rhods has happened, and you
talk about meat on the bone with that story, that's also somewhere they can go. I'm just concerned about how Solo looks after Summer Slam, whether it's going to be like they'll probably still keep the same bloodline formula. They're definitely gonna interfere, but they have a couple people that they have a couple of people to help neutralize the bloodline now with Ko and Randy Orton. But the addition of Jacob Fatu really kind of spices things up a little bit in that
realm. Yeah, definitely. I honestly thought they were going to hold off Jacob fa two to come back with Roman as part of his tribe that he'll build. But yeah, I think he's just as dangerous on the other side and just as intriguing, if not more so. What about this, Billy? What about this? Before you get on to your next point, what if? Because right before that debut, you had Solo tell Paul Hayman Roman's
not coming back. And so if you want to look into WWE does things purposely, like I said, they let you catch that drama, there's little bits in between. What if we find out that Roman is the one that sent Jacob fa tou what if we find out he's the one that came back back? And at the very end there you saw Solo going hug Jacob. Jacob didn't hug him back. Now that could be that could just be me thinking too much into it. Maybe dislike they're just doing this wild like he
has no clue. He's just an animal. He's in that, he's in the mode. He just he's not thinking about hugging Solo back. But when the Tagas get back in the ring to do the one right behind him, they're both looking at him crazy, like where the hell did this guy come from? You know, and they're kind of terrified. So I'm interested to see those layers too. Maybe it's Roman Reigns calling out the ancestors and sending somebody in there to check Solo. But that's eventually inside an inside the job
type. Yeah, yeah, the call, the call came from inside the house, right right, right right, Yeah, you're right. They do such a good job of like leaving those little bread crumbs for you to like, oh that was interesting, like that that little look that he gave him, or what you know, a lot of people kind of built up h during the road to WrestleMania, like the Rock holding up a one with like his im out. Oh yeah, yeah, you know which gonna end up?
Yeah right, But they they do definitely use those breadcrumbs occasionally, so like the time, yeah, but sometimes it feels like, you know, they they try to do it to make you think one way, right, make you think like, oh so yeah, it's I mean, that's how TV should be. So another member of the Bloodline, Jay Usso, getting a lot of hype to possibly win money in the bank, which is coming
up here soon. Yeah. The other members of the match right now so far, if I remember off the top of my head, would be Carmelo Andrade, Chad Gable, Dad Gable came back from the dead, yeah yeah, and then there's Juso. And then I would assume there's two more spots left. I assume one of those goes to either l A Night or Logan Paul And then what what's the triple threat on Monday? Dragging Off and dragging Off? Yes, so either either dragging Off wins because see them Punk interrupts
and calls through the match, or Drew wins. That triple thread match goes onto the money in the Bank match and then seem Punk screws him in that match. But you said something on Twitter the other day that was really intriguing too, is that that Men's Money in the Bank match could have a lot of interference in it, right, because you got a lot of guys that are in there that are feuding with other people. If L. A. Knight is in that match, then Logan Pole is definitely getting involved, right
or vice versa. If Drew is in that match, then seem Punk is getting involved, Chad Gables involved, He's having this weird thing with the Wyatts. Do they get involved? You know? So there's a lot of different storylines that can be kind of tied into that match, but you don't want to overdo it either, right, So I'm intrigued to see what they do with those last two spots. Nonetheless, jay Usso is the favorite to win
the match. Thoughts on that. I would think so too. However, I wouldn't just be so so dismissive on the fact that Chad Gable possibly winning it. Wow. I think he cut a really good promo walking out to the ring, and I think some of that has been the detriment to how his promo is. His acting skills are great. Some of the drama that
he's been doing with Otis and all that are great. And not only has he feud in with the Wyatts. I guess if you can have him almost reach the mountaintops and a one of the Wyatts can interfere, or he can have or he can have one of his former Alpha academy, I'll hold them back. But as we've been talking about breadcrumbs and if you want to follow the internet, looks like Chad Gable can possibly be joining with the Creed Brothers
and that could be the new Alpha Academy. That's something, and that's a group that ww is extremely trying to build up. And maybe I might be crazy, but I think that I think that the Wyatts six might be done with Chad Gable. I think Chad Gable was just more like a red herring cannon fodder of them. They've been building up Chad Gable. They can show Chad Gables, you know, a friend of the show. By the way, his character is more or less dispensable enough to where he can get attacked
like that. He doesn't have to on a long feud with the Wyatts. So I mean, what happens. So like, is Chad Gable just going to get absolutely fucked by the Wyatt Six and they're just gonna go into a feud with them, Well, you're gonna eventually he's gonna need some backup too. Is it just gonna be all the Wyatt six or all Bo Dallas Uncle
Howdie against Chad Gable. They've been building up their reinforcements that he's going to come back with the Creed family just as or the Creed brothers just as well. So I'm not thinking that they what are they gonna do? Just go forward with the Creed brothers and both of them just debuted, so you're it's gonna be hard to have them win. I think there's something in my mind that wants to believe that they just did Gable to make a statement. Maybe
they'll just go ahead and target some other other people. They just want to have a high profile guy that's probably not one of their main top guys get shown how dangerous that they are. And Chad Gable came out and he did the he did the you're gonna call me Master in the bank, and that could be something fun that they can run with just as much as it is
the jay Uso thing. I do think jay u so probably is the favorite right now to win that, but I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised if they gave that opportunity to Chad Gable, And a lot of people might if that were the case, a lot of people might poo pooh off, Well, what's to deal with the whole Wyatt six thing? And I think that he could have just been a red herring for them, and just could he walked out to the ring absolutely spooped out. I got everybody spooped out,
and that's a good way for them to put over. I don't think that they have to keep attacking him because they're eventually gonna have to bring out reinforcements for Chad Gable, which, like I said, most likely going to be the Creed Brothers. So what are you gonna do? Just have a tag team feud with those guys going forward? One of them is gonna have to lose one of them, and you just I think that they'll go ahead and
sight set their sights on someone else. But you've been coming around to jay Usa a lot more recently, I have you know, I've probably said on
the podcast before that. I you know, I for some reason it just didn't hit with me before, but lately seeing Jay Usso and just the like the energy that he brings as a baby face, Like something that's really hard to do in wrestling today is be be a baby face that is truly over right, Like not somebody that's corny as hell, and and not somebody that you know is is just putting on a smile but doesn't like truly believe in
themselves. Jay Uso definitely, like you can tell that it's himself just turned up to ten, which is which is how wrestling should be. So, you know, he's got a unique look, he's got a great theme song, he's got the great merchandise, which is the number one selling T shirt on the shop right now in Philly. You know, I mean it's unreal, right the dude. And and I think part of that is because one
like the shirt is just cool, like it's a cool shirt. He is like a funny like young saying nowadays, so people may just buy it just for that reason. But he definitely has a big time following too, right. I don't think that he's the number one guy, but he is the number one t shirt seller because the T shirt's really good too. But you got it all right there, right, you have the makings of a big time main event superstar with with all those things packaged together. So yes,
I have I have changed my opinion on Jay Us as of late. It always just like early on in the bloodline just seemed a little force for me, you know, he and he was always just kind of like the like just the just part. I don't even know I always saw as right. I always just saw him like as tag team the USO's like, there's no way this guy is ever gonna break out and be like some big time main
events start. It just seemed a little forced to me. But he's definitely found himself in in this latest sales run, and I do think that he will win money in the bank. But you make an interesting point with Chad Gable and it usually a heel carrying the briefcase is a lot better than uh than a face. If anybody's watching on YouTube, my cat is like crawling
all over me. So sorry, right, but yeah, you know, babyface carrying the briefcase can be a little odd sometimes just because you're like super opportunistic with that, and That's not how a babyface is supposed to operate, right, They're supposed to be like, I want to face you one on one, you know, no, blah blah blah. But heel will take advantage of an injured champion or whatever. So I think that's the one thing
that might hold them back. But I think they'll overcome that. They'll look at the T shirt sales, They'll look at jus So, they'll be like, all right, give this guy the briefcase money, money, eat in the bank or whatever they want to call it. They can make a really cool briefcase out of that too, and probably sell that as well. So I do think that we are heading towards a Jay Uso mounting the bank run. I personally don't think that Jay needs it as much as everyone says.
I know everyone's gonna get mad at that. He's come close several times several times, and his character allows him to do that, you know, and especially if everything goes how I think it's gonna go. When Gunther finally gets the championship at SummerSlam. Jay Uso and Gunter have a really fun backstory too. Jay Usso's faced them a couple of times and they've gone on the on the Dark matches a lot and have done that, so I can think of
them playing that story. Well, Jay, you've come close several times and blah blah blah. I'm going to maybe deep in in Gunther's run where Gunther is gonna give him a pity kind of like the stipulations, right, like, you can chart challenge me for this this title, but if it's it's the if you lose, you can't challenge for the championship anymore. And he finally wins. It's all about that chase, right, They kind of do
the same exact thing that they did with Daniel Bryant. Well, here comes Alpha Academy after he finally overcomes, after he finally overcomes a Gunther after he finally and he's the type of guy, he's a wild card. He's a type of guy doesn't have to out wrestle Gunther, he doesn't have to out chop him. He's just he's just like a he's like a wild card. So that's like the perfect guy to beat that. He's not going to go just toe to toe and have a just a Matt Classic with them. But
he finally reaches that after the whole story. You can't do it. You finally are the champion, and then he gets attacked by the Creed Brothers and here comes Chad Gabe and then boom, you have your heel start right there, and then you just the money is all in the chase, right because what happens if jay Uso does when the World Heavyweight title, then then what we're kind of left in what everyone's kind of criticizing the Cody Roads thing right
now with his reign and being undisputed champion. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely tough. Another reason why being a baby face is so tough is like, you know, you're so over and people want to see you win that championship so bad, but then once you win it, it's like the moment often outlives the title reign, right. You saw that with even Daniel Bryan,
who was so over, unbelievably over back at Wrestling A thirty. Do you really remember anything from that title run other than him winning the championship. Nope, I don't know. I don't remember anything. They had him feuding with Corporate Kine right afterwards, and there was no plans. They just wanted
And I feel like sometimes it's the same with Cody Roads. I think Cody Roads has done well for what he's been given because he's just facing legends after legends, and it helps that they're going to these crowds that are absolutely hot and singing the song and just like had the wwez there, so they're they're garner a pop. I think that's them trying to cover up for Listen. They've had two years to know that Cody Rhoades is a champion, and there's
really kind of no story after him winning the championship. His first thing was, you know, facing AJ Styles and AJ Styles finally fully turn and heel and now they did the whole thing with the fake contract. But Roman Reigns could have had his chance for his rematch clause you still had the Randy Orton thing right there. And if they do go that way, I think it would be just it's still gonna bang, but I think it'll be a little
bit too late. That's something they should have planted seeds immediately when he won the title, like when they're in there holding him up, or there's a coronation on Raw the very next day, right after, right after WrestleMania, instead of having that weird interaction with the Rock and they could still go that way, but you can have a celebration codally Cody finally does it, then
here comes the viper. He's holding them up on the shoulders, and just like how Randy Orton was done by his mentor when he finally won the titles, it turns it back and then you could you could have had that last until SummerSlam. But they with the opposite way. They're just letting him be the fighting champion, right and he's just putting on these bangers with Logan Paul and AJ styles. So I think it's it's it's definitely interesting. I think
you nailed it on the head. Don't let the moment outlive the title rain. Yeah, and that's that's the hardest thing when it comes to being a babyface, and I don't I don't envy that position, right, but not us we're babyfaces, right yeah yeah, yeah, but it really is on It's not even on the actual wrestler. It's not like you're saying, it's
not like anything Cody Rhodes is doing that's wrong. It's just like they didn't really have an intriguing storyline for him that is if you are like guys that appreciate storylines like me, and you like, if you just love great matches, then I'm sure Cody Rhodes Style Rain has been incredible for you. Cody Roads versus AJ Styles, Oh my god, what a dream. But you know, we're not We're not really in that same camp of where it's like, yeah, I just want to put two guys together just to see them
wrestle. Yeah, so yeah, well we'll kind of. I think that the solo feld will do them well and probably you know, lead to some more intriguing stuff for him down the line. Speaking of down the line, big time announcement this week by WWE as they are going to be coming to Indianapolis for not only the Royal Rumble which is going down in February, but also a WrestleMania, which we don't know which one yet and the same for
SummerSlam. We don't know which one yet, but those two big events will become in Indianapolis in the near future, which obviously as a wrestling podcast in Woulville, that is massive for us. I mean, we're just not even two hours down the road from Indianapolis. So if you guys think that We've been bringing you good content from the big events that we've attended, like the Rumble in Saint Louis and WrestleMania this year in SummerSlam and Nashville. Just get
ready because there's more on the way. We will definitely be at those events. We might even want to. We might go to SummerSlam in Cleveland this year. That's not firm, but keep that on the on the back burner. But Austin, how thrilled are you about about this news that they dropped this week? I think it's awesome and it's amazing that they haven't come to the Lucasol before for any other Yeah, I feel like I was just talking about this maybe when we were in Philly. I'm like, dude, why
why hasn't WrestleMania ever come to Indianapolis? Like it's It hosts the Final Four, it hosts the freaking National Championship, and it hosts Super Bowl. Like Indianapolis is a great city for hosting big events. They just do it. They know what they're doing, they do it often. Everybody that hosts events there always says that you know, it goes off without a hitch beautifully. So I imagine that's why. And also the relationship with Pat McAfee with the
city too, definitely helped. But I imagine, you know, just the the history of Indianapolis and the big events that they've had has played a big part in them getting these, you know, three massive wrestling events. Yeah, it's it's gonna be super cool. Like you said, we're just only a couple of hours away. So I definitely look forward to getting some more superstars on there closer to when they start promoting the show, that would be
fun. But yeah, like you said, and best part is, and you know, sometimes our weather can be tricky, but once we get around to like April, we kind of know what's around springtime. Once we got to April in Philadelphia, it still felt like it was January. And I think Night one, yeah, first night had everyone freaking freezing, where Nick con and Triple H is like, f this, dude, We're not coming back here. And it's even gotten them to even a contemplate shooting WrestleMania to
like May just to be perfectly safe. But Indianapolis is a perfect freaking place. I know they've done like a fast lane and stuff there before, but that building, especially for wrestling, could get over sixty seventy thousand people in there. What they're pretty much drawn for WrestleMania now, but also just kind of to piggyback on that, then out Summer Slim is now going to be a two day event starting next year. What do you think about the whole
Summer Slam being two days. We've been under the WrestleMania two day thing for a while so and everyone's kind of still split on that on the whole restaurant in two days. I I always have just liked it being one day. I feel like it feels bigger when it's just one day, Right, you split it up over those two you're you're kind of filling the card with some matches that might not be as hot as you know they could be. And I don't know, it's just it always felt bigger when it was one night
to me. And that might just be me like be an old man yells at cloud like this is how it always was, you know, But especially for a Summer Slam. I get it for WrestleMania, it's WrestleMania. You have the time to build great stories all that, But like we're looking at a Summer Slam this year, that's gonna be main invented by Cody Roads, and so was Co most likely. I'm not shitting on that by any means. But at the same time, that's not Cody Roads versus Roman Reigns.
That's not Cody Roads and seth Rawlins versus Roman Reigns in the Rock. It's you know, like it's just it's two different, two different playing fields. If they step their game up and really put on some great Summer Slams coming up, you know, in the in the near future, and really take the time to build those storylines for them, then Okay, maybe I can get on board with it. But yeah, the whole two night thing just
seems like a little bit of an over overkill to me. Yeah, and they're gonna be going on Netflix of course, starting in January and next year, and it makes me think with them, I don't know, I don't know if they ever announce it SummerSlam is now officially a two day event going forward, or if it's just for the one that's gonna be up at US Bank Stadium up in Minneapolis. But if it is just for that one, then that may be a telling tale that maybe it might be superstar powered filled.
Maybe that's where you have the rock come back and he finally continues the stuff one with Cody Rhodes. We are probably under the assumption whenever they get to Rock and Rome and that's one thousand percent gonna be a WrestleMania I don't care how much money isn't bought, that it's gonna be a WrestleMania match one thousand percent. It's not gonna be anywhere else. But it just makes me think what other kind of stars that they're going to have and feature there.
And possibly they just saw the success of the WWE World and how successful they were in Philly, their partners with fanatics, and just the stuff that they can do that whole week lead leading to a major premium live event. Maybe it's just a test, and I kind of hope it is, because I'm just like you. I just kind of like it the one day wrestle Maine. I don't like change, right, Like it was tough for me to
just kind of accept the WrestleMania as two days. I was never mad at it being one day and it never went on eight nine hours like people said it did. Maybe it did if you added the pre show OneD there, but I mean, who's really watching the pre shows. It's just a four or five hour event, which is acceptable for WrestleMania, not like a fast Lane or a Great Balls a Fire or something like that. But you know, it's the two day thing does feel bigger. It's just cool to go
back to two days of WrestleMania. That's really cool. I mean the wrestling market and me just kind of likes going back two days. But I feel like that's something that's It's like, you know how they have like move now that are just in three or four parts, Like I feel like that's WWE's way of doing that. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean it's definitely everybody. It's their own cup of tea, right what they prefer with it. But at the end of the day, it's all driven by
money, like simple as that money. They know that about the money. Yeah, if they could sell two times more tickets, then why would you not do it? Right? I Mean obviously you're paying more for the production costs to do it two nights, but you're basically you're doubling your profit at least theoretically, right, because you did it for one night you would have
this profit. So if you just duplicated the next night and you got the same amount of people there, then odds are that you're making the same amount of money, right So it's all money at the end of the day. But you know, they're on fire right now, so they're definitely trying to take advantage and make as much money as possible. And you got to do that. You got wrestlers to pay, you got you know, you got to remain competitive, especially in today's market now too, with aw and all
that. So, uh, totally get it. But yeah, I'm excited about Indianapolis getting getting those big events. That's how it's gonna be huge for us as a podcast, huge for anybody listening that lives in Louisvill too. I meant, you know, most of our audience are people in Louisville. You know, if you're a huge wrestling fan, you're gonna have easy access to see the biggest events in wrestling. And we can tell you firsthand. You know, we've been to the Rumble, We've been to Wrestling, and
we've been a Summer Slam. Like nothing compares to going to big time events like that with huge matches and huge superstars. Uh So definitely exciting stuff right here on the baby Face Podcast with bat News Austin. Coming up next WEEKET, We've got a great interview with our with our guys certified Bluke Curtis, Right, Yeah, it's gonna be it's it's gonna be awesome. He is
it. Guy's a character man, and yeah, it's it's always fun to go talk back to these OBW people because that's kind of I feel like we started out as OBW right because we got a couple of guys from the star of Wrestling Wrestlers on Netflix, Haley j she's doing big things and of course a cash flow. We haven't had him on yet, but I know he's someone that wants to come on and we've been we've been certainly waiting for Luke
Curtis. He made himself known in Wrestlers Netflix, like you said, with that with that crazy promo that he cut on out and he's going to talk about that more at the end of the show. So it was really really fun stuff and we look forward to having him back on the show. Yeah. Always love to shout out our guys at ov W. Be sure to get out to if you're if you're craving some wrestling. You know, we
were kind of we just had smacked down in town. Who knows really when the next one is going to be for us here in Louisville, imagine not super far, but you know, if you're craving wrestling sometime in that interim period, God to David Serena check out OBW. Those guys are doing great, great stuff over there, and we will welcome on one of the round right now. It is certified Luke Curtis and getting back to our roots a little bit with the guests from our friends over at Ohio Valley Wrestling OVW.
We've had many in the past, and today a brand new one, brand new friend of the show, certified Luke Curtis. If you've seen wrestlers, you're definitely aware of this guy. Luke, thanks so much for taking the time today. Man, No, thank you guys for having me and to
mention the slew of ww wrestlers you guys have. I originally want to talk to you guys because I saw you guys had Cody Rhodes on and I'm gonna be a little bit of a mark right now, you know, and we're all we're all marks at the end of the day wrestling, right, you know, I saw Cody on and I really try to like emulate myself after Cody Rhodes as far as you know, backstage and how he is as a professional. I try to, you know, shake everybody's hand, make them
feel welcome, bring along the new guys. And Cody Roads has always done the same thing, even for me, even though he wouldn't really know me like that, but he remembers faces, and you know, every time I see him somewhere, no matter what company it is, he has the same type of energy, and you know, he wears suits. He's the most professional, He's just the man. He's Cody Roads. He's the reason why he's the top guy. So I've tried to do that at OVW, you
know, because Code Rhodes is an OVW guy. He is an OW snow guy. You know, I'm an OVW guy. I'm an OW snow guy. So I thought the more that I could, you know, be like Cody Rhodes, you know, as a professional, the better things would be for me. And it's probably been like eight months that I started really setting that into my mind, and a lot of good things have happened for me since then, so I definitely feel like it was a right decision. So I saw him here and I said, hey man, any opportunity to do
with Cody's done, I'm gonna do it, you know. So I appreciate you guys having me, you know, dude, not a problem. Like we said, we appreciate you taking your time, and we're we're very thankful that we have such a good working relationship with WW because they always send people to our show whenever they're in town to try to promote and stuff like that. And they were just in Indianapolis this last week, and that's where you
were being a security guard and what's kind of what's kind of that? Like, I know that you were just doing a couple of weeks ago when they were actually in SmackDown, you were a security guard and high profile segments. That was the one with the Bloodline too, right, you're holding back like Kevin Owens and Solo and all that. No, I was the one with Cody Roads and aj Styles. Oh okay, yeah, that was the first.
I was Cody Rhodes. So that they dropped the meme that said, like one of these guys is going to be WW Champion in the next ten, I was one of those guys. I got that's right. What is the whole process with that? Like I've always wondered, I mean obviously, like uh in WW always runs a tight ship, especially like when you're official one air roster person, there's like a call time at like one o'clock and you have to be there the whole day. Is that something that you do
or is this even something that al sets up? Is does WW reach out to like local talent, say wants to be a security guard or how does that hooked up normally happen just to get some TV time like that? Okay, so you know, as all wrestling shows are very similar in the sense that like you have a call time, you know you have to be there early because I mean, if you're doing television, there's so many moving parts. And when we're talking about the WWE, I mean we're talking about the
most moving parts in professional wrestling. I mean the amount of people that work for that company. And it's true when they when they tell you, like, hey, you don't necessarily have to be a wrestler to make it them wrestling, because there's so many jobs. When you work for WWE, you see, like the reality of that because there's hundreds and hundreds of people working moving. Nobody's really sitting around chilling. Everybody is hustling to make that happen.
So, like, you always have to be at something early if you're gonna like like make something happen successfully. So with all wrestling shows like WWE, of course, as professional as they are, you're going to have to be there early. So yeah, we're there very early, you know, And I had to travel from Mobile, so I probably left, you know, at like ten o'clock in the morning to head up that way, you
know. And there's many different operatortunities you know, for you to be a part of something like that with WWE, I mean, it all becomes with relationships and professional wrestling, honestly. And WWE always wants guys that have good reputations, have good ability, and that they can kind of rely on to come in and do this role because while you're not like an active member of the roster, you know, being brought in for a day to do work for them, there is a lot of responsibility, you know, and a
lot of things can go wrong. You know. They have to worry about people looking out information. You know, you have to worry about, you know, guys fanboying over WWE superstars. You know, we're brought in there to work, the same as everybody else, like, the same as the guys building the ring, the same as the people doing catering, the same as the security guards that sit in the hallways and make sure fans don't come backstage. You know, everybody has a part to play, you know.
So, I mean, you build up a network of people throughout your wrestling career, and then you hope that somebody can helpfully get you an opportunity like that, and once ww begins to trust you as one of those people, it's easier. It's easier for you to get that type of work because now they know that you can do the job and that you're going to do it correctly and you're going to be a professional about it. Yeah, for sure.
So, Luke, like I mentioned at the top of the show, at its earliest days, this podcast, OBW really kind of gave us, gave us our start on getting guests and wrestlers and all that we've had Aloe and plenty of times. One of our great friends of the show is our guy Cal Hero, our Palcal. I think he's the most recurring guests that
we've had on the show. I think he's been on three times. And I know that you guys, you know, you guys are buddies, but it seems like there's also been a little bit of tension brewing between you two. So can you just kind of give us the lowdown on where you stand with our Palcal? Right now? Well, if anybody wants to watch the match. Cal and I actually just wrestled this past Thursday on OVW. It was the main event. Twenty minutes. I put it on my YouTube.
It's gotten a great spawns so far, like over five thousand views, you know, so that's good for us. And you know Cal, uh yeah, I mean Cal is you know I I Col's like the little brother, you know. I feel like that's the part that he plays in all this and you know, they wrestling has so many, so many elements to it that are that are real life. And you know, Cal's twenty two years old. He's about to be twenty two years old on Friday. Happy birthdays
now, right, He's birthday. Cal twenty two years old on Friday. And you know, I'm gonna be thirty one this year. I'm still thirty. I know, I said thirty one. I shouldn't have Yeah, but i's I know, it's okay. I know it's okay. But you know you're not trying to go to the WWE, right, So those days are past me. Beat my wheaties. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm still eating my wheaties. You go, booom, there you go, there you go. So, you know, Cal is like a little brother. You
know, he's going to be very successful in professional wrestling. He has a lot of time to do what he has to do, and he's even at that, he's accelerating at like an extremely good rate. He puts in all the work. So I can respect Cal for those things. Right, Whether me and Cayl are friends is not that big of a deal, Like we don't need to be hanging out all the time, Like we have a working relationship. And that's kind of what drives our story together, is that,
you know, we're both pushing for the same goal. But me personally, where I'm at in my life, I've been through while Cal. Not to diminish anything Cal has been through his life, I've been through some very hard experiences and those have translated well for me as a professional wrestler because this is built on emotion and character, and I have been in some very very emotional circumstances. I have been in more character building moments than someone like Cal Hero.
So that's why on Thursday I was able to pick up the win. You know. But at the end of the day, we shook and we hugged. I mean, we shook hands and we hugged after because you know, we have a common foe, and me and Cal understand that while you know, we may have to sort out our differences sometimes in scenarios like that, at the end of the day, we're better off when we're together because we can at least like respect each other enough to you know, be there
for the other guy. I don't know, it's funny because I know you guys had it was just on your page and Obw's page. You guys are putting up the ring and that's what you got into an argument. Now, I always just kind of thought it was, you know, more or less fascinating, you know, especially with Obew's and when you're younger and kind of paying your dues. And it don't get me wrong, dude, you're still
young. Okay, we're still young. Yeah, you're still thirty years old and ID you can still definitely be considered one of the bright young stars in professional wrestling. But what is it like when you're talking about paying your dues and I go that it just can go for something like just setting up the ring or help setting up cameras. What's it sort of feel likes to you
know, kind of be at your place after doing all that stuff. And obviously you've been obw World Champion, you've been on WWE television a part of their programming. But you know, everyone still finds uself paying the due, setting up the ring, doing stuff backstage. So what's that been more or less like for you when still continuing to pay your dues? Wrestlings all about like, you know, who did you ever beat? So kind of what's
that what's that process been like for you? I think when you get out of the mindset of paying your dues, I think that's probably when your career will start to backslide. I don't know if that's necessarily true, but I feel like at whatever level you're at in wrestling, there's a due to be paid. If you're the top guy, if you are the Cody Roads, your due is to give back to the guys like me that are trying to be there, that are trying to follow in your footsteps. And he does
that and that's why he's at the top. You know, I myself, I came from a working background. You know, my my father was an AC mcchannic. My grandfather was an a city I was an HVAC mechanic. I was a pipefitter welder for five years. When I got out of high school, I was yeah, yeah, I went through I went through some hard times. Man. I ended up being an HVAC guy. I was an apprentice, so I paid dues. I worked under a journeyman for five years to learn how to weld, and I worked with my hands, and
you know, I busted my ass for a long time. And getting into wrestling. The things that people think are difficult, like setting up a ring, to me is like a minimal task. So I've always like tried to keep the mindset of like, you know, this is just a part of what it is. It's my job to lead people. If I'm going to be a leader of these these new guys, these guys coming in, I have to set the example. And by being at the top of the company.
Now, I started at the bottom when I came in OVW. I rose to the top of the company, and you know, I paid my dues along the way. And now the new students that are there, I'm in the position where I can set the example for them and where the new talent coming out of OVW will be better than the talent that has come out of OVW prior, because now guys like me and guys like Cal are setting the example for them and showing them how real professionals behave. Because this is
our company now and we're still paying our dues. We listen. I wrestled. I wrestled in Omaha, Nebraska on Saturday. Cal I don't know what he did. He might have been wrestling somewhere else. OVW had to show that Saturday Friday, the day prior we wrestled. Me and Cal wrestled in the main event twenty minutes Thursday night. On Friday, they asked people to come to the school to load the ring in the truck to take to the
show on Saturday. That neither Cal and I were on right. There was maybe five students from the school, Doug Bashelm and Calum, myself, not one person from that show that's on OVW Television was at that helping put that ring in the truck. Me and cal Load pretty much loaded the ring with the student for the rest of the boys to go have that show on Saturday that neither one of us were on. I went and wrestled in Nebraska. I got paid, I wrestled, I sold good merch, I had a
twenty minute match. I'm moon sawed out of the ring. That video has got two hundred and fifty thousands on Twitter right now. And I still help those guys break down the ring after that show when other people did it. And that's fine because I'm still paying my because I have set a very high bar for myself and this is not enough, you know, Like, I'm not going to get in the mindset of being comfortable that I've done enough in
my career to be successful and be happy because I haven't. Like, I'm still very hungry and I want the success that I see for myself that I believe that I can have. So I'm consistently pushing for that, and I'll be paying my dues till the day that the day that I'm out of this, you know, And I know that that's just the type of person that
I am. Yeah, I feel like me and Austin can really relate to that too, because you know, we both work in radio and really just started from from the ground up, like we were the guys that were going out there. And Austin still does a lot of it too. I try to help out when I can, you know, setting up our events and all that and making sure it looks good so that when the talent gets there and all that, they're ready to rock right. So definitely definitely can relate
to that, bro. So I want to talk about wrestlers for a second. Obviously, wrestlers was such a big, a big thing for OBW. Brought you guys into the mainstream, you know, kind of wrestling world, whereas before, you know, many people outside of Louisville, Kentucky may have
not known about OBW that much. One of the classic moments in the whole documentary, Obviously you weren't one of the main wrestlers I was featured in it, but you still made you mark your march in Al's office, the viral moment of the of the whole documentary cutting that promo on him right there. Can you just talk about you know, just that that whole experience. What was what was your motivation? What was kind of going through your mind when
that's going on? Yeah, that that is actually like such a story. There's so much that goes into just that one. It's really a big thing for me. That's actually what I have pinned on my Twitter right now that applied forever vpin There is me coming in and cutting that promo and that jump started my career at OBW. They were on the fence at that time about who was going to be like the Rush champion, which was basically the cruiserweight
champion. I'd probably been at OBW for a month or two and they were teetering. I had the match with Isaiah and they were teetering on who was going to become the champion. That promo is what is the reason why I won that championship. That was the first time that I had become really the what certified Luke Curtis is now I wear suits, you know, jewelry, I dress flashy. That was like the first evolution of that character. And
before that, I had the certified Moniker. But I'm gonna let you know how like this works right now and how it worked for me and I love to tell this story. This is one of my favorite stories. Can tell you know. I came to OVW and I was certified Luke Curtis. I was wearing biker shorts and like a leather jacket. It was very much like a pit pool, very aggressive in the ring. And they liked me, but they didn't they didn't know exactly what to do with me, where to
fit me in. And Doug Basham who is like our head coach and trainer at OVW. While Al is like the mind of everything, and Al teaches us so much about you know, doing business and in wrestling, Doug is the coach. He's the one that's in the ring with us. So you know, I Doug took me to the gym one day and he said, hey, man, you want to come have a work out with me? And I said, yeah, sure. Me and Doug have never worked out together, you know. So I'm like, okay, this is like some
wrestling stuff right here. This is cool. I'm going with like an old former WW guy to hit the gym, an old school gym. And you know, he told me like certified. He goes you have something there. He's like it's awesome. He's like, but we have to find a way to make it mean something. And he he he asked if I had ever considered, like, you know, wearing trunks, and I said, yeah, I started in trunks. And he's like, have you ever thought about wearing a robe? And I was like, oh, man, I don't
know. He's like, I want you to like go back, and I want you to like watch guys like Rick Flair and you know, I want you to watch guys like Connor McGregor talk, and I want you to, you know, find find who you're gonna be, you know. And he's
like kind of gave me a direction for how to take this character. And I got the robe made and everything and all this and that, and then I went to the store and I bought a suit and I bought on this jewelry and these glasses and I sent Dug a picture and he said, he said, get all this together, and then he said send me a picture when you got it. So I sent him a picture and I'm in my suit and the jewelry and the glasses and everything, and he's like, all
right, He's like, you look great. He's like, now the last thing you have to do is go cut a promo for AL. So I was like, oh shit, man, I was like, I was that's nerve wracking, right, He's like, yeah, you needed me to go sell the character to him, you know. And I didn't even know that the cameras were in there for Netflix, you know. I just remember going to TV that day and I was thinking, like, I got to get here early, you know, so I can cut this promo on AL.
And yeah, I just walked in there and I and I cut the promo and I slammed my hand on the table and I walked out, and I was trying to like what me the whole time, and yeah, I remember walking out. I was so nervous that I was like, I was like walking out, like, oh my god. That was crazy, like such a drilling rush. But I was proud of myself, you know, and that helped set me off to where I I you know, I won the Rush Championship, and then the next week I introduced like the robe and that
was like the new evolution of certified Curtis. And then I won the Rush Championship you know, four times. And then I you know, won the Tag Championship, and then I won the Nightmare rumble who I threw out Calba
Win. I won the Nightmare Rumble, and you know, I started to become organically like, since we're I'm gonna use the wrestling term, since we're on the baby Faces podcast, I started to organically become one of the babyfaces of ov W. And it was like I started to realize that I didn't have to be like a Rick Flair or any of these guys that had war robes prior, just because Rick Flair had always defined a wrestler maybe as a heel in a robe, Like I just have to be myself in the robe,
you know, like Rocky war robe to the ring and he was a babyface, right, Muhammad Ali all these guys, and I'm like, you know, I just need to be myself in this. So I realized that I can. I can be myself, I can wear robes, I can
be he certified. And I really truly believe that, like every dollar that I make like today in wrestling is like I owe it to Doug Vashon, you know, because it's not like it's not jobs out, it's not our's job to like tell me things like that, you know, and it's not really Doug's job either, like it's my job to present something, but Doug
as the coach, like he really pulled me to the side. He sparked me up to something, and he told me like I believe that, you know, I could have told anybody this, but I believe that you can do it, you know. And I'll never forget that that he believed that, Like when he told me, this is how you need to go with with certified, you know, he believed in me. So now I take that and I believe in myself and I don't want to let him down, you know, like as my coach. Like that's real life right there.
And and yeah, that's how that promo happened. And it was a great moment. That's I'm very glad that that was captured, you know, and I'm able to tell the story. Yeah, So you didn't even know that the cameras were in there. I had no idea because they were talked away in the corner. I was office like stretches out to the right. So
I walked in there like later focus, you know. I was like like I had nothing on my mind, but what I wanted to say to him, and I didn't know he was going to be trying to cut me off the whole time. So and then the beauty of like this is like I've taken this and I've passed this little bit of knowledge on and I learned from this experience like that when you want something in wrestling, you cut a promo,
you know. And I've cut promos on I'm not going to even say their names, by cut promo on some really high top people, like in the high companies, just being ballsy and like walking up and being like, hey, this is who I am and cutting a promo on them, you know, because I learned that when you want something in wrestling, you promo. And I've given that to another student in OVW and he's promoted on AL and gotten a huge role on television, and it's helped really boost him up
out of like just right out of the academy, you know. So it's you know, it's passing on the knowledge and giving back. Yeah, that's awesome. Right. If the promo wasn't good in itself, which it was, Al's reaction just added to it too. They were like what was that all about? He's like fucking find that he really had no idea he had
no idea what that was about, but it realized after. I feel like it's just the perfect like look for for us as fans into like what it looks like in a wrestling locker room, just like you know, crazy personalities and egos walking around cutting promos on each other. I was just sitting there like, Okay, he's like, what the fuck happening? I think?
And it's honestly, you can almost equate it as like, let's just say, like when you're dating or trying to go meet a girl early, you're just out there at the club, it's more or less like not what you
say, but the confidence of walking in there and say it. It's just really kind of just selling yourself and saying, hey, this is who I am, and just let that person that you're trying to impress be like, oh my god, that just took a lot for him to come in and do that, because you can easily on your easily kind of fall flat on
your face. Not certified Luke Curtis because he's chrisped everything he does, but I'm just saying just anybody that could just walk in there and try to say something and can stumble on their words and that was just like a one take thing, and that seemed to like like like Billy even mentioned that was one of like the one of the better moments of Wrestlers, which is an awesome
documentary. If no one's you know, got to check that out and can still check that out on a Netflix, maybe you can kind of peel back the curtain for us right now. Is there any talks of the Wrestlers too coming out or well do you know about that? Well, I mean we're
not sure for now. Basically, Like you know, if you look at like you know, Greg Greg Whiteley, who directed our show, like he's got a lot of projects and like he's got things that he's working on right now, and you saw like the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders documentary just came out, so like he has a lot of shows now that like he can revisit probably any point, but like you know, even like cheer and Last Chance You and Wrestlers and all these shows are just like in a holding pattern because he's
got a lot of work on his plate, you know, So like, I it could happen. I don't think it's gonna necessarily happen right now, but could it happened next year. I don't know, maybe you know, like it's just a matter of you know, if Greg decides to come back and invest his time and his effort into that. So I think it is very much a real possibility, but we don't know for sure right now,
Like we're not focused on necessarily that per se. That would be amazing, but I know OBW has like a few other things that they're working on to hopefully like boost the company higher, So like we'll see if we can, if we can deliver, we definitely I'll go for it. Billy my bad. I was just saying, we definitely hope. So, you know, because like there there were only a certain amount of wrestlers that could be featured on a season, right the Hailey Jays, the cash Flows and and all
them did a great job. But there's also so so much more in the locker room that we want to see of, you know, certified Blue Curtis and our guy cal Hero and the many other great talent in OVW. So I feel like there's definitely, you know, some meat on the bund there to do a season two. So oh yeah, absolutely, Oh there's so many stories to be told. I mean, my story hasn't even been told on a platform like that, and you know I haven't. I have an
awesome story to tell, you know. So I mean, yeah, like I've been through so much in my life, you know, to be here today as amazing, you know, it really is. So I definitely think there's there's definitely a lot of stuff they could come back and OVW is a whole different company now. So yeah, and they know that. I mean they keep up with us, they follow us, they watch us like they haven't like scorned us forever. Like you know, they all were in contact
with all of those people. You know, they're like a big family. Yeah, everybody. I feel like that's been a part of one of his projects. We support each other. I follow people from cheer I follow people from the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. Dallas Cowboy cheer leaders follow me, you know, like y it is. We're all part of like a bigamily for the most part because we're under like you know, I feel like the Greg Whiteley umbrella. Well, I mean we could talk about it and you just said
there's a lot of meat on the bone for that. I mean you have people like a cash Flow who got picked up it Robert it was Robert de Niro, right, who he just got picked up by somebody to go do Sylvester salone. Why do I get these Italians mixed up? My bad? And then of course you go on, like you said, you go on to win the Rush Division Champion. You eventually go on to win the OBW Heavyweight Champion, and then of course and great fashion got cheated out of that
victory. So you've been at the top of the mountain and you won the cruiserweight titles, you won the OBW World Hand Championship, one of the most prestigious unsung championships that there is in all the wrestling. Think about all the many greats that have held that title. You can now add yourself on to that list. So we talked about being at the top and then regardless or not, you got cheated out, You're lost, you got jumped. What's it, what's it take to kind of get back to that mountain top and
what is certified? Luke curtis gonna be back on top? Well, I have a contract signing on Thursday tomorrow with EC three for the OVW National Championships. So obviously, like there's like a pretty storied like timeline with me and EC three. We started out as a group together with the faction. He came in. I worked under him, I've tagged with him. I tagged with him at Blizzard Brawl against Al Snow and Doug Basham Like. I've done
a lot of great things with him. And then I faced him for the NWA Championship and you know, like the highest viewed match on my YouTube, it has like over thirty thousand views. You know, we really you know, he was he was a shoulder up better than me that night. But you know, uh, I really would like to beat that guy. So we have a contract signing on Thursday. We have our pay per view on
Saturday. It's going to be me versus e C three. I believe that I'll have Doug bash Him by my side, so you know, I got coach with me. So yeah, man, I'm ready to win the ov W National Championship and beat the n w A World champion and I want to say that, so oh that would be awesome. It's going it's going to be awesome. It's gonna be awesome. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna kick his ass. Yeah. EC three knows I haven't seen him in a while.
He's been, you know, touring all over the world doing some pretty cool things. He's been in Japan holding up the ov W national title in Japan. So I'm ready for him to come back and give it to me. He knows his time, he knows that time is tick, and he's trying to get that. He's trying to carry that everywhere he can. He knows time. I'm close. Yeah, yeah, So yeah, it's coming on Saturday, so awesome. Yeah. We always cool for our our friends
of the show, and you are officially a Babyfaces guy. Now we appreciate you. Right, you got some of your stories, yeah, we yeah, get your shirt. We still got Calis shirt though. So I don't know has been on the back for a while. It'll be he's been on three times. I know it'll be two more times, right exactly. Uh, but you got any like you got pro wrestling teas or so social media
anything you want to tag to get our listeners. So to give you a follow up, I mean, yeah, I have pro wrestling teas certified Louke Curtis. I you can buy merch for me at a show if I haven't a or you can uh subscribe to my YouTube. Just YouTube certified Louke Curtis. Watch a match the best thing that you can do. I have all my matches on there, me versus EC three. I got some great matches. Uh. You can follow me on Twitter. It's certified Luke K because
Twitter doesn't let me use as many words. Certified luke k altogether. Instagram is certified Luke Curtis. My Facebook page is Luke Curtis. Seeing me there holding the tidle like, ah yeah. Just follow me on social media. Hit me up if you want to buy some merger or something I don't know, and uh yeah, catch me out a show and we're gonna do some great things. Man. We're just we're just plugging away one day at a time. I'm always improving myself, you know, That's what I'm always working
on. So I'm just trying to build myself into a product that you know, people can believe in and get behind. And I think we're on the right path. So if you stick with me, I'm going to show you guys that you know, I'm gonna do some some great things in wrestling awesome. Well yeah, check out OBW at Davis Arena tomorrow. If you're in the Woisville area. Unfortunately, I don't live in Louisville anymore, but I'll still be up there down there now and then. But me and got to
get out to a show here, so yeah, and not too. Watch ov W every Thursday, seven pm on YouTube, Thriller, Facebook, whatever you want. Yeah, I'm almost always out there doing some awesome stuff. So yeah, watch ov W. That is a platform that I am almost featured on right now. And yeah, we'll see next time you get on the show. We're gonna have We've already had the w W champion on our show. We've already had social media champion OVW on our show. We've had
tag champions on our show. We've even had the NWA World Heavyweight Champion. Next time we have you on the show, we're definitely looking forward to having that champion on yours to national championship. It's gonna look great around your waist and that robe and those trunks. Are you kidding me, baby faces that we need that and we're rooting for you? Yes, yes, I appreciate it. Thank you guys. Yeah, sir, we'll have a good one.
We'll talk soon. Man, Yep, what's up? Guys, it's certified Luke Curtis, and you are listening to the baby Faces on iHeartRadio.