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to the podcast going today. Since it's been a while since we've actually had a full podcast and done something like this, what we're gonna be doing everybody knows. Of course, the regular co host that you see, Billy, probably gonna be out for a little while. He has a little one coming up. I don't know if you if you knew that, my guy, but he has a little one coming up. It's actually gonna be due next month, so he's kind of taking a step back from the podcast.
So I mean, I just couldn't be left all here by myself, So I dive right in my handy dandy notebook and we reach out to friend of the show, Vigilante Talks. He is here and now going to be an official partner and collaborator with the show. We are excited to have him on a fresh new voice to the podcast as we're going to start pushing a lot of stuff out and making this a little bit more fun and up to date, especially as we're keeping on the road to wrestle Many the exciting time to be
a wrestling fan. And of course we just had Monday Night Rawl the other day. But let's just catch up with Vigilandi. Man, how you doing a couple last time we had you on, we were talking to say we're talking some a E dub.
Yeah, man, I'm doing great. Thank you for reaching out. You know, I always got your back. Shout out to Billy of course. Oh man, yeah, man, here to help, here to chill. He's always good, right, dude.
I mean dude, it's great talking to you too, And I mean you talked about doing some big things.
Dude.
You're just at Madison Square Garden, the world's most famous arena, one of my favorite places New York City. I think I probably wore that out so many times. So let's kind of talk about that for a second. So you got like the official invite from Netflix.
Right and they wind you dined. Yeah. I don't know what they did after that.
But we was out there. Actually, I was out there.
With Fan Duel.
It was Fan Duel. Oh okay, yeah, and tell them to unblock me.
And it was my boy, Alan Owens who hooked it up. He's a he's a contragrator. I don't know if you know about Alan Owens, but he hooked it up. He bringed the connection there and it was it was great to be Madison Square Garden in the BAP area where everything unlimited. I have some drinks, to have some food, and I had great seats.
Oh dude, I mean those seas look pretty awesome. It looked like an awesome time. Kind of I tried telling people because I took my now wonderful fiance out there a couple of years ago. When we first ever went to New York and it was like it was leading up to WrestleMania thirty eight. It was the brock Lesnar
Roman Reigns stuff. And I remember that they had announced that that announced that house show because as Paul Hayman that came out he is still kind of feuding with brock Lesner at the time on behalf of Roman Reigns, and he said he mentioned a tease like you might not keep that belt because there is a show just added in Madison Square Garden that happened to be the week that I was in there, and just trying to explain to a non wrestling fan, like, dude, this is
like where it all started for WWE. This is almost like on the level of like watching a Knicks game at the Garden or something like that, or it's an amazing concert.
It's like watching the Yankees stadium old.
That's exactly what it was. I haven't been the Yankee Stadium though.
With everyone.
I get mixed reviews because people tell me that once you get work, whenever you go to where the subways are above ground, that's not a great part of town.
That's that's a lie. Is that blown out Yeah, it's definitely blown out of proportion.
I mean, I'm I'm gullible to anything that the Internet tells me. So that's a little bit scared of New York to start at first because some of the things you could see in the subway and stuff like that. But everyone says how the Bronx is probably not it's nice on one part. Then you look to your left and it's the Bronx, all right.
Get but I think I feel like that's everywhere though, it's not just new And then the Bronx that got got the little area where it's really nice, and you know, ghetto is this ghetto and everywhere? Yeah, everywhere nowadays, you know what I mean.
So it's at theoretically more in danger, like in the city where people can pick pockey and try to take money while taking pictures with.
You and the guys in Mario suit great dancing.
You have Elmo come up to you talking about let's take a picture, but his head, yeah.
I got, I got. I almost got in a fight with them on my first time there, because.
Yeah, oh dude, it's they know that I'm not a New Yorker because I'll sit there and talk to anybody and my my girlfriend at the time, pulling me aside. No, we gotta go, and I took a selfie on my phone and he did not like that. I wanted he wanted us to use his camera.
Well, I didn't know. I got a picture of it somewhere. I'll post that to the pot.
That's a that's a cool story. But yeah, man, Madson Square Garden was great. Aside from you know, honestly, bro and this might be a little bit of this might be a little a hot take.
I feel like from.
Royal Rumble till Madison Square Garden every Monday night, Row and SmackDown was mad like there was nothing going on in any other show except for that one prom that Seeing Punk had after Elimination Chamber. But again, I mean, was it after before Elimination Chamber?
It was before it was sorry, it was after Yeah, it was after. It was after Seen it turned.
Other than that, nothing really amazing had happened.
And even even the show Monson Square Garden it felt great because it's Madison Square Garden.
Sure, so what I'm saying.
The only thing that felts like that felt like super super great was the.
Return you see you see it fucking Rains.
It's cool to see that guy in person. Man, I'm telling you because it's like watching the new generation. And I know he's a little bit older now, but it's the it's the obviously been the face of the WWE the last couple of years, and it's almost once again, it's like watching Hogan. You know, you talk about Madison Square Garden, you talk about el Jim Baylor, you know, you talk about who was it, who's the famous one? Was it Walt Frasier, the walk out of those old
Madison Square Garden tunnels? And it's almost what it was like, pretty fucking cool if you ask.
Yeah, man, it was great that that match was really great too, even with that without the interference, other than all the kickouts, the match was great.
Of course.
Yeah, they did a big and people have went on to say that's probably one of the best like actual cage matches in a long time. And hell, we got it for free on until it well not for free, it's on Netflix now, but we got it on there, and it's just something that you normally don't see in your weekly program. That's like a big pl event. But it was awesome. The storytelling between Rollins and Punk next level getting to that point like it had to be a Steel cage at that point, then you kind of
forget about Roman Reigns. I remember texting you probably a week before, where does Roman fit into all this?
And I remember my response to you was, he'll he'll come back, and he'll come back on Square Garden.
And it's because you don't you don't need to leave him off the card, and it just feels, well, let me ask you, does the WrestleMania build for the longest time seem a little bit weird because there is no Roman Reigns And that's like we're kind of accustomed to, right bro.
I feel like like WrestleMania is building up now. Yeah, I think Wressellmania is actually going to build up this Friday. Whenever we get seeing Punk seth Rollins and and Roman Reigns in.
The same build.
Right now, it feels like, oh, yeah, we got good matches going to WrestleMania.
Cool.
Yeah, But it's not like fuck is WrestleMania like we usually are.
Well, considering this time last year, we were already in full swing of the Final Boss Rock. It was right after the Smackered around the World. It was every it was after the pivot, right, they had to switch to the cody of cry Babies and they did that whole fun story.
We were knee deep in it at that point.
It's taking a little slow to get up to this time, but and it's it seems to be kicking up because now they're overseas, now they're at an international audience.
And now looks like those exactly.
It helps when like the crowd is hot, which I'll have some fun takes about the crowd that I'm surety sure either a lot of fans are a lot of Internet fans are probably gonna throw a fit.
About, but you know, we'll we'll end up going and talk about it.
Let's talk about this last week's Monday Night row I kicked off in Belgium, Brussels, right, I think that's what that's what it called. Looks amazing falling all the wrestlers here and all the fun shit that they get to do. Dude, it's it's absolutely cool. Let's open up with obviously the biggest one. Let's let the cat out of the bag. John Cena. It's the first time seeing him since his infamous turn at Elimination Chamber, and he finally gets to explain himself in front of the crowd. It was hot,
it was roaring. Tell me what you thought about this segment and from your overall views were you were you hyped up for it? Is this something? Because after you make a huge turn like that, and after you tell a big piece of the story, everyone needs to hear your reasoning. Why what was your thoughts on a scena coming out and just kind of putting a a cherry on the top of his turn.
It was the biggest and the best heeled promo and modern w W eight history.
Yeah, that's your take. Is that your take that you tease me with the other day.
That's what I take. And the reason why is because it's it was different than everybody else. And and the crazy thing is that a lot of people didn't understand and instill don't understand what the promo was all about. And that's exactly what Johnsena was saying, You guys don't understand, Like you can see, like if you go back and you watch the segment, right, you can see how people like towards the end of the segment are like, Okay, this is what he's saying, because yo.
He keeps proving them.
He keep he keeps proving.
Them wrong and wrong and wrong right.
And a lot of people were trying to get ahead of time saying, you know, John Cena didn't go into talking about how why he's so his soul to the Rock and all of that. I don't think it was the right time to talk about that. I think the right time to talk about that is closer to WrestleMania or whenever there is some type of engagement with the Rock.
It made no sense.
Point, it made no sense to mention the Rock and talk all about this when the Rock is not around. Right and honestly, bro I think John Cena brought back and this might be a hot take and I might get a lot of heat for this online, but.
John Cena brought back k fade in this promo.
Sure and give me a few seconds elaborate and see if you could, if you could get my point. So let's tall out Bianca, bel Air, EO Sky, and Real Ripley. Bianca supposed to be a babyface. EO Sky is supposed to be a babyface. Ria the heel, Bianca and Eo come out of everybody. It's okay, but the crowd goes bananas when Riya comes out. Riya talked both of them, and the crowd goes bananas, right, Kfe, if we're talking about wrestling, Kfe, We're not supposed to like the heels, bro,
you know what I'm saying. And we're supposed to hate the heels. And this is why for people that didn't understand the Sena segment, this is why John Cena didn't come out with a new song. John Cena didn't come out with new music and any of that, because if he did, then he would have continued to be a cool heel. Sure you understand what's time to say, Like people would have cered to see him with a new look.
And so now him being who he is and being a heel.
Same music, same outfit and all that, it's like a constant reminder, I'm the bad guy now, and I'm the guy that you supposed to like, but I'm the bad guy. So I feel like Sina brought Kfe back to the reality of what a babyface and the heel should be. And that's why I think this was the best heel promo in modern WWE history.
I mean, I feel like that's not too much of a hot take because I guess I will agree with you. We just haven't had any ground shifting turns like this and such a long time, especially we've seen so many people turned babyface and heel throughout the years that it's been, you know, absolutely crazy. Then you have your people that kind of like lie in the middle that they're really not like ever really bad guy, have a really good guy,
they're just going to be liked. I feel like maybe Drew McIntyre falls into that category a little bit and Roman Reigns. For the longest time, he was a badass. He was a badass heel, but everyone liked him because he wasn't exactly and exactly. So now they're taking advantage of that. My thing on the scene aside, and I'm following you one hundred percent, because everyone's going to fall into liking him because they're going to like the change with like the music, the attire and stuff like that.
But one thing that I've always wondered with Sina and you, I mean, you could correct me if I'm wrong, but like he even came out and said, like I'm not changing who I am because what you're seeing right now, like this is who I am, and he's wearing the last time is now Brussels shirts. And but at the same time, I'll disagree with you, John, that's not who you are. Like we've seen total divas and we know
that that can be a little bit overproduced. But I can almost guarantee you that is a real perception of that man's life. Okay, He's worked very hard to get where he is, and he like takes care of like he doesn't like his kitchen cooked, and he he has wolves. When people come over, Guys have to retreat to the cigar room. Women go upstairs like the trophy room and talk, and then you have to have permission for your dog to be out, and you have to text him if
you're gonna be in late. And you know, like, yeah, that's all funny haha. But like at the same time, I feel like that's really him. I mean, the guy wears expensive suits just as well. The guy you know, dresses nice. He has a good vocabulary. But I guess in this situation right here, I mean, you're not seeing John seen out in public, out in Hollywood wearing the
goofy shit that he is in wrestling. No, So, like I've always thought that they can maybe add that element onto it, but I'm not gonna seems a little bit too nick picky, and I'm the old man kind of shaking his fist at clouds on this one. But I feel like this isn't the time or place. We'll just kind of let it. We'll just kind of let it grow. But if there is anything I'd be willing to nitpick,
it would certainly be that. I'm still fine with the music being the same, although selfishly I would have kind of liked the thug and Amis music. Get that's what I'm doing, but if it does nothing for it. If he did that, it would have pleased the crowd. Yeah, the heel is a heel is not supposed to please the crowd.
Yeah, he is.
Supposed to make you hate him. And that's what he did. By the bro, by the the half of his promo, he was getting twice Dominic Mysterial twenty twenty three heet. You understand what I'm saying. So it's like he did his job when it came to that, which takes me to my to my second point. To my second part of this promo was great, but it was not perfect. I feel like by the time Cody came out, we didn't even need Cody, Like the crowd already hated Sena enough.
Yeah, now we didn't.
We didn't need Cody out there.
It drew the clear divide of who's the who's the guy you want to cheer for and who's the guy
that you want to win? Because now it's just and I don't know if it's just see the international crowd, because I think that they do a great job of coming through live on TV and stuff like that, but it and and I'm pretty sure you've already seen the memes of how they produced it, right like it was Cody's coming out, the spotlights all on him, and then you got the darkness of John Cena, very symbolic right in the middle of the ring, and.
It's you talk about perfect production. That's That's exactly what that was.
And I remember having a conversation with you when they first announced Netflix, when they announced the idea of Netflix, I will I came as a guest to your to the show.
And the show now part of the show exactly.
And I remember I told you, guys, my favorite thing about WWE going to Netflix, and that is that the production is gonna get is gonna get to another level and it's showing, bro, like you could see you know what I mean, Like I'm I'm I'm big on cinematography and stuff like that, and there are times that I see camera angles and stuff and I'm like.
Bro, this is like movie b.
But yeah, going back to the to the situation with Cody and Sena, I got a question for you. Why why do you think they didn't have seen a rebuttal anything that Cody said.
That's an interesting question. I feel like I feel like this has always been a thing in wrestling. Less is more. I feel like, I don't know if I feel like you had seen a come out, feel his thing, get the crowd reaction after he said what he needed to say, and then Cody comes out and just kind of just kind of ends it right there. I feel like John Cena, for the longest time, has always gotten the better of people in promo side.
He's uh.
I mean, people have said that maybe that's the reason Roman Reigns has improved because he cooked Roman Reigns a few years ago. He's cooked the mizz on the mic, he cooked the Rock on the mic, and he's always going to be I mean, he's a pro dude. John Cena is an absolute pro. He'll know how to read the situation. What I think in regards to that question is just I mean, babyfaces have to go up right there, and they're not gonna have any physical altercation. I don't think for at least.
I don't expect any physical altercations like maybe a week before.
Right, and maybe it's like the rock or something, but you're probably not gonna see Sena and Cody touch probably until like a beatdown or something a week before. So I feel like this is their way of letting Cody
get one over on him in the ring. And then just it's Sena kind of doing the proverbial job on the mic to Cody, and then like that's how we got to that point, and you just leave it with people like, all right, you had your hero, came out, he said what he needed to say, he had the grand entrance, and then it's just back to all right, yeah, we fucking hate this guy again and he gets the villain walk out.
Yeah. I see it that way.
I also see it from a storyline perspective, if you look at how they have been handling this whole John Cena situation ever since Royal Rumbo it has been all about moraleity right as a morale's he's fighting that within him. So the way that I see it is okay, they're probably selling it as in because if you look at the way he was looking at Cody, he was trying not to have, not to keep an eye contact with him, and he was just lost and thoughts.
Right.
So the way I saw it, like I told you, I'm into cinematography a lot, so I like to read into stuff, into this kind of stuff, and to me, it felt like it was more of a he was reflecting on Cody, and that's why he didn't respond. Eventually, I think that he's gonna find that one moment and that one gap when he could avenge the comments that that.
Cody that Cody said.
On the other hand, right, I think of as a writer as a producer, right, And I feel like the reason why Sena didn't rebuttal was to protect Cody because every name that you mentioned before, that John Cena Cook is better on the mic than Cody Roads, and John Cena cooked them. So it's like John, we're gonna need you to come down not saying much now because if you cook him on your first promo it's not gonna
look good. Yes, you gotta, you gotta think about we're talking about John Cena, one of the best in the mic.
Mm hmm.
Whiney bitch coming from Cody should be read he really.
Simple for John c to rebottal.
Of course, is know what I'm saying. I feel like I know exactly what you're saying.
It was kind of a balance of like you said, let him, let him beat a baby face, let him go on top, and wwe just protecting Cody from from a real scene of promo.
Yeah, and that was your way of him still getting over because I think Cody is really I think Cody is good on the MIC and promos when it's just he is when it's just when it's just him in the middle of the ring. And I guess when he can go at someone a little bit lesser than him, uh, probably, you know.
If he could go out like maybe I wouldn't.
I wouldn't even like Solo Socoa, Like he can cook Solo Socoa on a one big one promo battle. But he's that's just not his characters to really just kind of like dog fight, drag you out on a promo. He'll just kind of get his point across and let his or his aura do the rest and h But like John Cena is that kind of guy.
Cody, Cody is more of an emotion person, like, yeah, exactly.
He incites emotion and the people that's there and empathy and kind of stuff, which is why.
Whenever he turns heel, he's going to be a great heel.
I mean, for those people who watch other things, that's not just w WE. We've seen him as a heel, and Cody is freaking great as a heel.
Of course, that's where that's where the American Nightmare came from, is because when he went to the when he went to the scenes, he was a bad guy, and like that just rang.
So true, like that's so good.
Yeah so but yeah, man, Like like right now at the top of the card, the people that's up there with Cody on the mic, I think they're all better than Cody on the mic, right, But Sina, Sina is a is on a.
Level above all of them.
I agree.
But that's why I feel like, you know, storyline wise, let him get over production. Why riding wise, Sina not now please kind of kind of situation.
Oh, this is our champion. Don't do him too bad, like he still needs to look good. I mean, they still need to put a good promo package together whenever they make the vignette before the before the actual match. And I think that's what I'm most excited looking forward to is is is the stuff that they do to kind of rea show you how this rivalry began. And that all comes down to how WWE does with these promos, these vignettes to lead you up to a match.
It's spectacular.
They're eventually going to trade off more barbs and stuff like that, and it's gonna be fun.
I'm ventured to see how personal it gets.
And you know, we still need to see the final balls get involve this.
Oh dude.
Yeah, I don't know if if Mama Rhodes makes a thing back because they've done so much with the with the Dusty. You know, Dusty's been gone for a long time, and and I know Cody Rhod's friend of the show by the way, who is it's still very emotional to him, But like as a wrestling fan, those insults really kind of don't mean anything to me anymore, Like when they're when they're talking about his dad, Like we get it.
Everything just kind of been worn out, and I think Cody's actually done a good great job with kind of with that kind of settling down a little bit. He's not using his father, and that's what a lot of people on the Internet, even myself for the longest time, was getting on him about. And he's finally found his footing without using that. So it was fun when they introduced the Mama Rhodes thing. Now you can kind of really dive deep and go like the Brandy route if
you need to. And maybe Cody could do something with John Cena's dad. You know, John Cena Senior is no stranger to getting involved in rivalries and getting heat on other heels. So in this in this in sense of babyface, and it should be fun to see where all that goes.
And the crazy.
The greatest thing about all of this is that all the guys involved in this program has been in Hollywood and they are showing it. You know what I'm saying they are doing. I think, to me, the storyline is great.
We know the storyline. The storyline is cool. I have my ideas of where the storyline is going that that would take a whole a whole podcast on his own We'll do more podcasts on it, but I feel like the storytelling between them is what's gonna really was going to really sell this right Like atn Elimination Chamber, the fact that the Rock didn't say one word made the whole segment a hundred times better.
M hmm. You didn't have to, you know what I mean?
And yeah, man, I'm excited to see where this gonna go. There's people disappointed that that. Again, like I said before, that Sena didn't explain why his Soul hit Soul and all that. There's still time, you I mean, like we are, today's the eighteenth. We're literally one month away. That's a lot of time in wrestling. Yeah, absolutely, especially the way they're doing it now where they include voting social media to storylines.
And something that this this a lot of time.
Still, Yeah, I'm still I'm hoping that we get a lot of that because that's how the the Owens and Rhodes things started to call it was after it was after the paper?
Was it after bad Blood? I think?
And that's when the show I'm attacking him by his buy his car and you could you could totally do that. It'll be interesting to see, I would just hate, you know, and I don't think that they are, but I would just hate for them to kind of like waste the screen time with these guys. I mean, you could still
show them in the back. So it's like, did John Cena just leave the arena right afterwards or is he like still there, you still be kind of in the back or getting his limo saying fuck this place, driver, get me out of this dump. I don't want to be here anymore. Take me back to the States. I don't know, something like that.
Oh well, how do you feel about people saying that John Cena's explanation for turning heel was was weak.
I mean I don't think it was. I mean, it's just obvious. I feel like he had a clear reasoning for this fort a while. And when it goes back to like you said at the beginning, this is who I am and you got he's been cheered and booed, and he's been one of the more controversial superstars when it comes to people are getting tired of his push. People are wanting new people to come in. You had the rise above hate thing. You have people cheering on. I mean back when I was when I first John
Cena was my hero going up. Okay, I had the wristbands, I had the word life WWE shot necklace. I thought I was John Cena. So like I loved him as a kid, he was my hero. And then like I would have never thought back then when I was watching, people would be ready for him to lose five six years later to Daniel Bryan or what who's the guy that's dating Chelsea Green Zach Ryder? People are I mean, at different points, people are just wanting him to get off, and then he's being the pro that he is and
the progressler that he is. I mean, he just kept getting the crowd back on his side. He's just so good at that. And I could see that just kind of pushing a person to their point, like you guys, only is me for your entertainment?
He did.
I think he acknowledged that you can't see me invisible meme at one point.
Yeah, they're in the segment so and I can see where all that gets to him.
And that's where and that's where I was gonna take it with my point. That is the mark of a great heel. Right, he didn't just talked about I this is happening because of what happened this last month. He took it back to the first day that he that he debuted at w W and he came out and
everybody booed him, and you see what I'm saying. He talked about how he became the cool guy and everybody was okay with him, and then he started winning and winning and winning, and people started hating and hating and hating. And there's always has been a problem. And this is where, like I said before, is an internal bottle with him, because Sina is looking at it as in, I never used my card of who I am and what I've done for this company, But well now I'm doing it
like I deserved this. I'm doing this now, I mean and little by little, right, why did he sell his soul to the Rock to me is because he noticed when he had that beef with the Rock, he didn't know what he was getting himself into. And he saw himself becoming the Rock, becoming the Hollywood guy that's only he a temporary and becoming the the the the guy
that was that's big in Hollywood. And so it was it was out of everybody that's in WWE now at this point for John Cena, the rock is the most relatable person.
Sure.
Now, I think I think you're absolutely spot on with that assessment, because you know, he was his his whole game was wrestling back then. And I can I can even translate to uh what Sam Punk said when Sam Punk said, you become what you hate the New York Yankees, and that's like little seeds just being planted all the
all this time. I mean, I don't know if people are sitting there going back to it, but it just lays out the groundwork of SNA, like you said, kind of coming to the realization that this is what he is and there is such thing as character changes in WWE. But I wanted to ask you just kind of maybe we can wrap up and put a bow on it.
Do you think now you kind of got me thinking when you started talking about why Sena probably didn't say anything, you know, if you want to get into four D chests while you let Cody kind of had the last word, do you think Sena and do you think they have Do you think they're drawing a path to where Sena's probably kind of regretting this decision and it leaves them out for whenever he does turn babyface again, or does he go out this way?
Yeah, this is what is all about. John Cena to me right now is literally is Walter White from Breaking Bad. That what John Cena is is his last.
Time I am the danger.
It's his last his last tour. He about to retire, right He about to be gone.
He wanted to.
Make sure that he get that last chip. Walter White, he thought his life was gone, he was gonna die. He did whatever he did to make sure that his family were taken care of. And in the in the in the way of getting there, the morale and him played so bad that that Walter White became Heisenberg. He became the bad guy.
You know what I'm saying.
The story of Walter White, A lot of people don't see it. When you come to Breaking Bad, the story of Walter White is you're not You're looking at the story of the billing from the beginning to the end of how somebody becomes a villain. This is exactly what's going on with Sena. Sena has come back so many times to help the company. Cina had come back to.
Put people over.
And no matter what Sena has done, he went from winning, winning, winning, winning, winning to lose, losing, losing.
Lose and losing losing lose.
Yeah, people forget that his point.
He's insecure and he feels like the only way that I could win is either cheating or getting help.
Yeah, I mean, look at the last couple of people he's lost to.
I mean, I guess you can technically talk about him losing the jay Us, but like kind of getting eliminated by jay Us last time we saw him get embarrassed by Solo Socoa and then take it back to two years ago our WrestleMania he loses to Austin Theory.
Yeah.
Man, I'm telling you the.
I'm working on this video is gonna be like a thirty to thirty to forty minute video.
I didn't need to plug it on the pot, but we have to.
Dude, plug it all, plug it all you want. Plug it there?
Where I compare where I compare Sena turning heel to becoming the biggest villain on on TV right, and to me, the biggest villain on TV were the Sopranos and Walter White and sina Is, and sina Is right there with them because of what scene of represented to everybody and what's scene of represented for the company and what he has become so and yeah, man, it's it's all about, is the morale in him. He's like he's constantly fighting
it and it's not. Part of the reason is us he's getting Let's go see ah Sena sucks in the same sentence.
Like and and it's legit and and it's and it's legit and it's got men. Like I even said, I love John Cena.
I've embraced the especially like the last couple of times and the last appearances we're seeing him, because you there's hard landing legends in wrestling like that anymore. They they've done a good job with building roaming up to that point to where, uh, he'll he'll probably have that kind of farewell tour here however many years hopefully it's a long time, but there's there's not a lot of that
going around anymore. So I've always appreciated Seena for that, and I think it also helps the storyline vibes because of it, because I know, I know Cody Rhodes's title reign has been a little bit controversial, lackluster. I know he's had I know he's been you know, he's been
in a lot more matches. I think that some of his feuds have just kind of been thrown together to please the Marks because they know that they're going to have a great wrestling match with aj Styles or Logan Paul, which was a good match, was kind of like a weird feud, and then you had the whole Kevin Owens thing and which they turned out to be great matches, but it was just something that you knew that Cody Rhoades wasn't going to lose to.
I feel like this is.
His first feud during his title reign since last year's WrestleMania capturing that Golden Philly that you don't know who's gonna walk at, like you finally have some doubt in your mind that is Cody gonna keep this or is Seena gonna get it? And I feel like that's a great thing. And as a fan, like I kind of want Cody to lose because John Cena is being a dick right now, you know.
Yeah, Look, I'm gonna tell you something. I am a fan of.
Triple H, and me and Triple H got something in common. We are a fan of all n WA, of course, and there's things that has been going on since Cody won the belt that a lot of people have not noticed, and it was done on purpose, and a lot of people didn't know it and didn't think of it. All of Cody's title defenses or miny feuds that he had going from when he got his championship on, they were all replicas of feuds that Sina had. It was to engrave it in our minds that Cody is the new Sina.
J style, all of that, all of that.
It was so we could start relating Cody to Sina. Cody's self consciously, we were already some of us were like, oh, it's lazy writing whatever. No, it wasn't lazy, right. They want to make sure that we relate this. Two guys, you didn't.
See what I'm saying.
So when this happened, now you're like, come on, where you guys supposed to be the same people. What is going on? Right? And I think at this point the only person that could have put Cody over where he was was Sena. It wasn't gonna be nobody else. It wasn't gonna be the Rock. We already saw him in.
The Rock go out the last last year. It wasn't gonna be Roman.
Cody.
Cody was stagnant for a while. Now he's over and over.
Again because of this whole situation with John Cena. And another thing is, I don't know if you notice the conversation of Cody's getting boring.
He needs to go heal. It completely stopped Nobody's saying.
Yeah, you're did it was either it was either him or and then it like yeah, like you said, it turned out to be Sena. And always thought that and Cody still has room for it, but always thought that. I mean, I know a lot of old and I'm not going to disgrace anybody that's been in the business because obviously they know a little bit more than I have. So when people are talking about like this could affect merch sales, he's your top selling merch champion. Probably him
and Roman Reigns have been on top. Like they sell a lot of money, they sell out arenas and stuff like that. But they'll have a chance at one point to do what they never did. Was Sina back when he was hot, and that's turned him back, and that's turned him complete healed, which I don't think will affect any T shirt sales.
I don't think that'll affect any houses, They'll just.
They'll just get him another feather in his cap where people will now want to see him get.
His ass kicked.
Bro, Look, I tried, and I'm gonna sound like I'm obsessed with Breaking.
Bad, but I tried to.
I love Breaking Bad.
The reason why is, to me, Breaking Bad is the best produced, the best written TV show. You under see what I'm saying.
I agree.
And let's say we go back to Walter White.
Right. The thing with Walter White is whenever he wh whenever he decided that he was going to do whatever he was going to do to make money, right, it became a struggle for us the fan on a morale basis watching the show every day because we were waiting for that one moment when Walter White was gonna go bad, when he was gonna turn into a bad guy. Every episode you were like, is this the episode when Walter
White is gonna go bad? And it's the same thing with Cody up to the point when Seena turned on him. Every episode everybody was just watching the show and be like, is this the day that Cody gonna turn heel?
And it's gone now because of John Cena.
And that's that's the only thing that I think right now going into WrestleMania.
Is the only the one thing that they have done effectively.
I agree with that. I don't think a lot of people would have thought on that kind.
Of level like you just did right there. But you know, that's that's what separates you, man. And we'll go ahead, and because I'm pretty sure, like you said, you got some videos coming up, you're excellent at that stuff. We certainly appreciate having you on once again. This is the baby Faces Podcast, or back with a new member of the team, mister Vigilant.
He talks.
I'm pretty sure that you guys follow him on there. If you don't, then you probably should. He in every video saying that you should probably follow him because he has some great takes, he has some great contents to put together. And better what better person to team up with than iHeartRadio and the baby Face is the official pros podcast of Louisville. By the way, and this is
the Monday Night Reaction. Let's just kind of slide through the rest of Monday Night while we were kind of talking off the show, or we're kind of talking off the air about like you know, because I didn't watch it live.
I was working. We shout a shout out to the Bluegrass.
You got Louisville and Kentucky in the UH finally for the first time together in the tournament in a while. Louisvill has been a dumpster fire. Kentucky has been kind of in and out of the tournament relatively quickly.
But they got things going with Mark Pope now.
So it's a little bit busy this week as a brackets got released here in the Derby City, so I got to catch up with a little bit on YouTube and I'm really interested in this. I know you'll have an opinion on this, but pent defeats Ludwig Kaiser via penfall. It was a street fight and then Pensa of course wins and he has a sight set on the inter Continental Championship.
What's what's your thoughts on this match?
This kind of few that that they have that they have Pentang because I know a lot of people online are really starting to get mad because Penta has made some main event shows, right or uh, the dark shows that they do.
Before I send you some I send you some pictures of it, like Garden they did one. Penson needs to win the Intercontinental Championship WrestleMania, and because for two reasons, right, we need somebody that that is gonna be a fighting champion for the intercontinental title, and I think Penza is the right person for that. He already shown and the crowd is so so behind him, and they know whenever they put Penza in the ring of Monday Night, row is going to be a banger. And I think that's
what we need. Also, it's the right way, at least the way we grew up. When you're an intercontinental champion, when you lose it, your next step is to go for heavyweight. And I think if they go with Jay winning the World Heavyweight Championship, I think bron Breaker needs to go up to that world heavyweight title scene and there's nobody better than Penza to give the title to.
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
And I was just literally thinking that as you were saying it, because I'm thinking, well, what do they do with bron Breaker? And I think they put bron Breaker in a lot of good spots now, made him look so dominant to where he can go chase after the title.
Now.
I mean, obviously I don't know if it will affect him because I'm not a booker, but and I'm not going to complain, well, this is going to ruin somebody, But I definitely think they're giving the title to Jay. I'm still trying to come around to it because I listen, I love Jay Us, so I think that he is the hype man. I definitely do think that he is falling into the yeak Man territory. Ever used to watch A Simpson and they had duff Man tough man. He's
like that. Basically. I don't think that his matches are are all that great, but like he's a he's a fucking vibe dude. He comes out, he gets a whole crowded out. He's uh, he's a good emotional promo. His matches kind of under delivered my opinion. And I think the last time that we had uh that the first time I had you on the podcast was probably around this time of year ago. He was chasing Gunther for the Intercontinental Championship and Gunther had that long run and
look at where they're at now. And I remember you saying that there's anybody that's gonna beat Gunther. It's gonna be a wild card. It's not gonna be a guy that's gonna go toe to toe Matt to Matt with the ring general. It's gonna it's gonna be somebody that can hit a roll up or some weird spear or something like that, which the spear dude, Yeah, there's.
No I think I think he needs to drop.
I love Jay and and if you watch my content, it's easy to know that I've been a Jay Uso fan since like forever, right, I love Jay like that.
Dude is great for me because in a in.
A weird way, Jay's reminds me of the ultimate warrior, right in the sense of somebody who we want to see as a champion because he gets us hype and all that, but he's not the greatest and ring performer.
So j reminds me of that. But yeah, Gunter, they could never.
Have Gunther lose to somebody that he could go head to head with. You understand what I'm saying.
Because it would, it would, it would, it would destroy his character.
Gunther's story is always gonna be David and Goliath, somebody who's gonna buy some miracle beat him with a point. When simon him, it wasn't because Sammy was the greatest it was. It was by a miracle, you know what I'm saying. And I think that's where they're going with that when it comes to j I feel like they have to give Jay a title by now because of how.
Big he is with the crowd. So this is more of of.
A Cody cra of the Cody cry Baby situation. Okay, you know what, We're gonna please the people, plus your walking bank account and.
You're walking gold mine.
He'll sell the T shirts, will sell the glasses, Like, let's reward that guy for a few months.
Yeah, And and I don't think his reign is gonna be that long.
I mean, I'll give him to till Summers line summerslame of Survivor series as as best with the title.
And but it's still it still will be great.
And it was it was. He'll still be that one guy. He'll still be the next Jeff Hardy, you know what I mean, the guy that was known for a for being a tag team, a great tag team and became in a at the champion and then became a world heavyweight champion. It's Jeff Hardy all over again.
Yeah, but I agree.
With less ring performance.
Mm hmm.
I agree, and I actually liked that when he won the Royal Rumble that you know, they played it off to where, Okay, I'm gonna go to SmackDown, i might have a talk with Cody, but then I'm gonna ultimately make my decision. I feel like the WWE, ever since introducing that title, like it's still.
Always felt like the B title.
The World Heavyweight Champion is still always felt like, you know, not a lot of people cherish it, so you need to have the Royal Rumble winner, like I want to seek that out, and I also need it needs to probably be the same thing. I don't know if it's gonna happen. This money in the bank, but the next money in the bank, you're gonna you're gonna need someone to want to cash in on the World Heavyweight Championship.
So they need to get their their ducks in order. Now, I don't know if you're gonna have this on a video or I don't even know if you already did. And I apologize if I missed it at Vigilanti talks
on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and go check him out. Do you think that that that that's gonna which kind of your off for a second, go to on a side street, where do you see that that that place on the card, because in my opinion, I think I don't think it's gonna main event a night one, especially when you talk about the other stars that.
Are gonna be on it.
Now Never the crowd will leave happy with geating at the end of the show. But at the same time, I also think it's a badge honor to open WrestleMania too. When you can get the show started off that way.
It's definitely an opener. It's definitely an opening match because I don't think I don't I don't think they have done that much of a great job where we want to see this match more than we want to see John versus Cody, and we don't want to see this match more than we want to see Roman versus Seth
versus c and Punk. I'm more hype about that triple threat than I am with Cody and saying see what I'm saying, So to me, Bro, I always thought it was gonna be either that triple threat or if they would have gone with Bianca versus Rhea, that have been main event Night one, but they didn't go that way. So I think, yeah, I did they open nine one or even Open nine two with this match, but I don't think so because they need to have them in different nights because of the Championship.
I absolutely agree with you. Let's let's keep running down the raw card. I mean, next, we had Dakota Kai versus Ivy.
Now.
To be honest, I can literally care less about any of those people.
Do you got any thoughts on that?
Dakota Kai and Ivy Nile, And then you had the Creed Brothers and dragon Ly and Ray Masterio get in Dragon Lee Probably that was such a huge signing a couple of years ago. I know that they want them to be the next Ray Mysterio. I don't know what's going on with that now, especially that they have Penta, a new luchador who they're actually presenting like he's a freaking star. I don't know what they do with him, but I got thoughts on that.
I'm gonna tell you what they did wrong with that. They went with the fact that he's a Mexican, that he's Latino, and then just dropped them in LWO, which they learn that lesson, and they didn't do that with Penza. And I'm glad that they died because if they would have done the same thing they're doing with Penza with with Dragon Lee, it would have worked because Dragon Lee is a great and ring performer, you know what I'm saying.
So he's still very young.
He could have been up there. When it comes to the women's Intercontinental title, I think it should have been given to the Code of Kai from the get like lyra lyral Bcarrier is great, but she never sold it to me as an Intercontinental champions.
Big Owner looked very awkward when they had her interviewed with Jackie Redman too.
Yeah, so I think I think the Code of gets her happy moment at WrestleMania and grabs that belt from her. It's the same thing with the with the Women's United States Championship title. That title has been in a loop since Chelsea Green won it. Between Chelsea Green and Mitchen, it's just been over and over and over and over, like it's getting boring. Let's move on.
Give it to Selena Bago or something.
If I get it. If y'all gonna keep giving me Mitchen versus Chelsea Green every week, just give it a Selena bagel.
Yeah, they need to switch it up with Chelsea.
I'm so fine with her holding the title and bringing prestige to that because Chelsea Green, I think is she's probably she's great. She's absolute pros pro Like the stuff that she did with the Cactus Jack thing a couple weeks ago on SmackDown, brilliant dude. She gets it off camera, she gets it on camera. She knows exactly what she's doing.
With the character.
But I agree with you, switch up, switch up her opponents at yes, if you're going.
To keep the title on her, there's enough people that she could that she could get in a program with. It doesn't have to be mitching over and over and over again. We love mitching, but we've seen this.
I don't love that name mentioned. I don't get it. What is a mention?
I have no idea.
I feel like someone saying mention, like you're mentioning somebody. Yeah, what whatever be the case.
Let's go on to you have Rhea Ripley entering herself into uh the WrestleMania, which could possibly be Now, now you just threw your hand up.
What's your problem with mommy?
I don't have a problem with mommy. I just feel like I love Eos guy. But the way that they went about this was a little awkward. I agree, we kind of me personally. I mean, I'm not a writer or not a promoter or any of that. I'm talking
as a fan. As a fan, I feel like I would have loved to see Riha versus Bianca at WrestleMania and not this triple threat match and has not to do with it, especially because Bianca's storyline with Jay and Naomi is bigger than the storyline with Rhea and and EO, so that's not all the problem with it.
No, I agree, I feel like they found themselves booked into a corner because, oh my god, it's Rhea Ripley. She's been a part of a huge part of the women's title seen the last two WrestleMania's and oh my gosh, you know, Skuy's been the same thing. And Bianca Belair, she hasn't had the title in a while. She's been kind of stuck with Jade Cargill over the last year and kind of been showing her the ropes. And then they had some pretty good cinema shit that they're doing
with Naomi, Jade and Bianca. People are more like you said, they're more interested in that. And I feel like going back to they've been planning the seeds, not really planning the seeds, but like they've been showing through all out this last year with just looks that EO and Rhea have.
Been given each other.
You know, we can we can just run that just as a straight rematch from raw like they did a couple of weeks ago, and then just have that get get her avenge on that way. But you know, they had Bianca win the elimination chamber, which is which I always thought from a character standpoint, which is kind of weird, because yeah, like your best friend just got attacked by
her other best friend. But here, let me sit and pose for the camera after I win the eliminations and chamber your friends in a stretcher.
She just had the damn gates shut on her neck.
You know where? You know where this is going. I think I think we all know where this is going. It's going towards at the end of the day. Naomi kept her mall shot, but it was really Bianca who who who attacked Jade? And you know, Naomi, even though she she she's hurt by Bianca, she hates Jade more than she she's upset with Bianca, and it's gonna turn out to that everything about how the Bianca character is being is being percentage. She's wearing black all the time.
Now she's more aggressive, you know what I mean, Like she's being manipulative, right, tellinghim, telling Rio how the best stuff that she's doing, and trying to give Eo way more props and all that.
Like there's something there's there's a lot of storytelling going here.
And don't get me wrong, because I'm pretty sure a lot of people go gonna jump with me. I think that this match is gonna be great. You got three great women in this match. Ria, Ripley, Bianca Balani Yo Sky is gonna do everything possible to give us a banger, and we know that, but I just felt like we need a Bianca versus versus Ria.
If that was a problem, if that was the way to go.
But I guess having let's say, Eo b both Bianca and Ria will make her believable moving forward.
Sure, I would like to see that because I do like Eo Skuy. It took a while for me to kind of come around to El Skuy. I really like her. I think that she's a great worker, probably has a little bit to work on on the promo side. But I'm not won a nitpick. I'm not a professional. I'm not getting millions of dollars to do that. So I mean, who am I to talk about it? I'm just a gas bag radio host. So let's let's let's jump to the next one. We already touched on a little bit
of it. Jay Us and Austin Theory. I mean they're they're just kind of feeding there, giving jay Us all the momentum. Now he's running through mid Gus Austin Theory friend of the show by the way, Uh, he's I don't know where on earth he is in a friend of you. You ran into him outside MSG you got to win it, had a little viral moment with him. What's I think that they're a couple of years ago? Would I still okay, I'll say it. I still think
that there's money in Austin theory. I mean, look at the freaking deck and he We've had him on the show a few times. He's a awesome dude to talk to. He does not come off as a guy that I want to hate whatsoever. So they need to they need to do some stuff with him.
Now.
Grayson Waller, I think he's in danger possibly slipping up, but I think that he has all the tools. I thought Grayson Waller was a star. What was it? Was it the money in the bank that was in London and he came out, he went toe to toe with John Cena, didn't slip up anything. When they had John Cena come out and say well, thank ussol Banian be here and they had him come out get all the heat,
did not slip up, did not fret what's job? And I thought, dude, they have something with him, but he's just kind of been buried in the mid card and they haven't gone anything.
Both.
I don't get it to have it. I feel like, if you remember, this is for all my deep dive wrestling. Me and my buddy Joey, we used to watch wrestling together and we used to I'm if I watched it now, I probably I had to understand. But when rated RKO became a thing, you had edge come out basically like insult Randy Orton and they're going against Djecs the Degeneration.
Next he said, they think I'm a joke, Randy. They think you're a joke, like we've been relegated to what people are just butts of jokes now to where the two like biggest politicians like on it in the back, you know, Triple H and Sean Like they're putting us in these embarrassing situations. But dude, we're former world champions. We're like, we're faces of this company. We should really
get serious. And they and I know that they gave them the tag title Run and they gave them the unveiling of the newer looking tag titles, which is pretty sweet, pretty cool. I mean, you're talking about those two young dudes. An awesome, awesome moment to have that Wrestlemanium moment. But ever since then, there's really no promo work with them. They've been showing dissension over the last six seven months, but then they just keep getting back together.
I don't know what's going on with that.
I feel like I feel like.
Triple H was was kind of waiting for people to get over the hump of of Austin theory was a Ben's McMahon guy. You know, I say what I'm saying, and I think I think it finally got to that point. I think people are already saying, Hey, what's what's happening with Austin Theory?
Right?
And I say it all the time, and I'm gonna say it again. Austin Theory is a future face of the company. I don't care what nobody tell me. This dude has everything to be the next John Cena. Simple, that's the way I see it. Remember when I used to do the AI voices, I used to call him.
Yeah, I kind of missed those videos. I miss those videos.
So yeah, I think.
The whole point of that match with Jay was to make j look stronger. I think the botch didn't help Jay much, but yeah, not good luck. Yeah, but yeah, that was the whole point of that match. I does the Gunther coming out and choking Jay is getting a little old. We need to move on and put a little bit more excitement behind this match. And I don't know what they're gonna have to do. I don't I can't think of anything else, but they're gonna have to figure something out.
Yeah, this is and this is what leads people so underwhelmed by it because they've already seen this match three different times. Hell, it was the it was a main event on Saturday night's main event. A couple months back. We've already seen Gunther come out during doing the j Uso entrance. We've already seen him call them a joke. We've already seen them attack them. We've already seen the pull up parts in other bases of the feud. At this point, I'm just excited for the moment because you
already know what's gonna happen. The match is gonna be whatever. Everyone's just excited for the moment. It's gonna be a great one for Jay.
I think that's where people add as a fan, I think people I think as fans, people's like, Okay, this programming, we're not respecting much from it. We just know that Jay's gonna walk out of there as the win, and the whole place is gonna eat and we're gonna be the next the Monday, the following Monday after WrestleMania, we're gonna eat for another seven eight minutes with Jay as the world heavyweight champion.
Sell the T shirts, Pal, sell the T shirts.
Boy there you go.
Yeah, look at them eating out there, Pal, look at that, and uh.
And we've already we've already talked about it. The Dragon le Ray mysterio kind of a throwaway match with the Creed Brothers. It seemed like it was a good crowd, was hot obviously because you know, two Latinos working.
And let me go back to where I started on the show.
I'm I like when crowds react to the show. I love it, but I'm just not a big fan of the singing and the taking over of the show. Called me old fashion, but that gets annoy and that was kind of rearing its ugly head during the Sena promo
earlier in the show. So I mean, I don't know when they're trying to take over, when they're trying to hijack, it gets a little bit old to me, Like let the guys talk, let the guys work, and like Kazell eventually end up panning to the audience while they're doing like those chants and it's only over an international once again. I know it sounds a little bit better on the television, and I know it sounds a little bit better coming through just because it's a hot crowd.
People are invested. But there's just anything I can nitpick. It'd be that.
I think I think we lost Vigilanti here. This is fantastic programming. But yeah, like I said, in this match we had at the very end, they've been doing the stuff with this mysterious loochador that's coming out. Chad Gable is coming out, or what people think is Chad Gable. That's gonna be interesting to see what that is, because I know that they did that spot on Raw where they thought it was Chad Gable and or from last week. Now they're showing possible penta of vignettes are kind of
getting someone excited about that. It's gonna be some real fun stuff. Some technical difficulties by our guy. We lost vigilante talks.
He just texts me.
It seems like they're in a very bad storm where he is up in Philly. So that's a pretty rough. Well, we hope everything's doing okay with him. Just a little power outage is what it seems like. But well, we
definitely enjoy having him on the show. We're gonna have even more a part of him because he is going to be joining the show as a collaborator, an extra host that wants to come on and shoot the s with us and talk some wrestling, especially as we're getting dialed up for WrestleMania Season it's gonna be fun once again. You can follow him at Lante Talks on Instagram and on tiktoks. This guy puts together amazing content and you
can check out some of the shows. Check out some of the content that we were talking about earlier when he got invited to the Madison Square Guard on Monday Night Raw just last week, really really fun stuff. We got some really good exclusive content for you, so you want to go check him out for that. He's also going to be at wrestle Kan in Vegas. Probably might be going to WrestleMania too, so that'd be a good avenue to follow him on. We don't know if we're
going to be making it. Probably about ten percent chance that we go if I happen to hit like a crazy parlay or if I happen to hit lucky at the casino on like a eighty eight cent bent or something. But looks like for right now, I'm going to be enjoying it from the couch, which shouldn't be a bad thing, because you know, I am kind of salty because I did want to go check out a Legiance stadium. It
looks awesome, press box looks awesome. I know, all the other wrestling media up there is going to have a good time, and especially if Vigilante goes, we'll be collaborating with him and we'll be getting like a bird's eye view of what's going on up there, So it should be really really fun. But yeah, all we have left of Raw is he had Seth Rollins come out and cut a promo. He's looking forward to this Friday. Roman Rains is going to be at SmackDown. Seeing Punk is
going to be at SmackDown. We're finally going to officially get that going, and I can only imagine that's where they're going to announce the triple Threat match. I think that we're going to have more clarity on what Paul Hayman was doing in Madison Square Garden when the Tribal Chief return. He got caught consoling Punk in the middle of the ring as Seth Rollins is getting his ass kicked by Roman Rains outside Roman Saw that went in beat up Seam Punk and then ended up leaving with
the Wise Man. Anyways, but there's still that favor of CM Punk that's looming over Paul Hayman and the fun stuff that we get to do. I'm pretty sure whenever we talked to Vigilanti again. I'm going to go at a couple theories that I have what CM punk will do, what this favor will be, and by all means of looks like that's probably gonna be the night one WrestleMania main event.
Surely there's gonna.
Be some stakes added on to that, at least that's what I think. I mean, all three guys Roman seth Punk big enough names just to buy themselves without a title main event WrestleMania, but you gotta expect there's gonna be some sort of stipulation there. So excited to see that Raw wraps up with the Intercontinental Championship match bron Breaker defeating Finn Balor. Looks like Finn Balor might be dissenting from the judgment day. I don't know if that's
just to be a good guy or bad guy. I know that they've been dropping hints showing like the Demon mask in the back and showing a little bit of change and Finn Balor's attitude, and he's come out with the new weird like entrance music. Not a lot of people pop for him. He's just kind of like forgotten a little bit. And I think Judgment Day is a little bit forgotten. That thing probably on its last days,
so we'll see where that go. Bron Breaker probably most likely leading to a multi man either ladder match at WrestleMania. You know, they got to protect him all that they can whenever they Eventually he ends up losing his title and he goes on to find bigger and better things. What me and Vigilanti talks agree on, which could possibly be the World Championship, kind of renew that rivalry with
jay Us a little bit. I know, they got a little bit personal talking about the families of Steiners beating the Annawa eas and gonna be really fun stuff looking forward to that.
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In the NCAA tournament, they're going in as a three scene, right the three scene. They're gonna be taken on Troy and they should have an easy walk at least the first couple games.
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