This is Austin Theory and you're listening to the baby Faces podcast on the iHeartRadio. Wat right the wall and you are listening to the baby Faces on iHeart Radio. What's going on, y'all? Is WWE superstar Kobe Kisna. You're looking into the Babyfaces on iHeart Radio. Baby all right, guys, you hear that music? That means we are back another edition of the baby Faces podcast on iHeartRadio powered by ninety seven to five w a m Z Kentuckyana's number
one four new country. What's up, guys, I'm your co host Austin at M on air. If you want to give me a follow on it's so weird writing that now, X Like, I'm so used to writing. Me and Billy have this thing, Aaron Like, what are we supposed to say? Like x us tweet us like, it's it's just you can you can follow me? Who who cares out me? I'm just your co host, our guy, Billy He's he's with He's not in Nashville this week. He's with the real movers and shakers of a country music down with iHeart.
So anybody that makes a difference in the water of radio. They are down there and that's our guy. Billy saw him flying solo with friend of the show. I'm talking Aaron the Idol Stevens making his attorney. Guys may know him as Damien Sandou from his WWE days and he's known as Aaron the Idol Stevens on nw A and back when I was growing up watching Ohio Valley Wrestling
right here in our backyard. I'm talking about the guy that was the one of the main heels and he just like, I'm not gonna lie Aaron, like I love him now when I was when I was when I was a little kid, right right when I was a little kid, and I was like the magic was still there to me, Like, dude, I just I hated you. I'm not gonna lie. You were good. Really, That's that's the coolest thing you could say that. It's always funny, man
like like the Air and the Idol Stevens. That's like that O. G. Louisville kind of like that on the Obie W fan would intro me like that, and I think that's so awesome, So I thank you for that. That's yeah, that's always I like I feel like I'm home when I hear that to a degree, it's like absolutely absolutely how you doing? How are you doing now? Man? Welcome back to this show. What's what's going on? Where where do you find yourself tonight? Uh? I'm actually
in the ville right now. Look at that and yeah, no, things are great actually of course, Uh nw A hard times coming up this weekend Saturday, right both in Alabama. That's gonna be interesting. You know, we've we've moved to the CW app now we have a relationship with the CW
and uh there was an announcement made this week. It's only kind of getting more steam as the reality show with Billy and that's involving nw A and all the you know, interesting facets that go along with that and uh so it's gonna be again very very uh like it's an exciting time to be part of the n w A. It really is, because there's definitely like this okay,
like you know, we're that company. We will fight kick scratch claw like there's been but like there's that that spirit that's never ever gone away of like who we are at our core right and I think a lot of things are starting to click now, things are falling into place and it's just a
really, really great time to be part of the team. It's so fascinating that, Aaron, that you even had to say that, almost like justifying, just because NWA is always going to be in WA and we talked about it here in our backyard Louisville. The NWA champion, the person that's holding the ten pounds of gold right now, he's C three. He's actually going around in gallivanting around Louisville. He's doing this stuff over there with with Al
Snow. So it's it's always going to be a big deal. And we've had him on the show, and maybe you could just kind of just talk a little bit about, you know, the NWA and people. You said this on the Chris Van Bleach Show. We'll get to that. It's a weird age of internet wrestling that we're in now, right, I mean just people kind of want to just see like your WWE and your a e W
and really not know where the roots came from. I'm talking about places where you've worked and you've signed previously OBW and nw A. I mean, like you've been a part of the big leagues everywhere. What more does it stand out being a part of n w A. That's some more unique than other places that you've been well again, n w A kind of at its core and in the the most basic archetypal form we are traditional American rattling. And
I say it like that and I with two s's baby rastling. Yes, and that's like so Daniel Hill, who's a mutual friend of ours, shout out to Daniel Hill. Absolutely again, great acting coach who has has coached me to another role and everything. And uh oh yeah the show I was in one an Emmy So that was kind of cool. Bury the lead with that one. We got an Emmy winning an Emmy winning person on our show. Guy, can you believe that? That's how far we made it?
You know, it's it's something I uh but uh but no, it's it's cool. It's like, you know where we're at, Like we are North American television wrestling right, I'm talking Canada US. When television came out, someone figured out, wait a minute, this is like Shakespeare entice or less. There's wrestling. We have less, you know, far less spandex. But you know, regardless, there's a formula that worked right, and there's a formula like there is a reason. And I'm not again not knocking anyone.
And I don't know if I've said this before, but for years, right, and this is before the age of the Internet and everything. But is it I ask you this, given recent events with Dolf Ziggler and Matt I believe it is. Yes, Like given those events, ask yourselves this. Why is it when any American North American television wrestler goes elsewhere, they are the attraction? You know? And again there's far more like Japanese crossovers.
I think aw people are more aware. But while I'm talking about presentation of character, that's all right. This is just this is like when when a star from the WWE is brought anywhere. Yeah, they are the attraction. And that's because North American television wrestling, or wrestling as we like to say, has always been about creating stars. Yep, right, it's you fall in love with the personalities, you know what I mean? And if we look at again, I mean my god, Okay, so Hulk Hogan
back in the day, right, we've had Stone Cold Steve Austin. These people again, regardless of what you think of him, larger than life. And now let's go back to the eighties, was anyone more over than Jyd Like Jyd it was like out of the eighties by far my favorite. I mean he would come down him in Hacksaw right, like people always slept on Jy And not that Jyd isn't a let I mean he is the guy's you
know, he's definitely immortalized, but they don't give him enough credit. Yeah, as just like when the wrestling boom happened and uh and you know, like okay, Vince went national and for the first time you have one company and these wrestlers being presented in such a way and it is now nationally seen on NBC and wow, like that. You talk about America falling in love with some people instantly, right, like like jy d it was instant. Yeah, packed off, it was instant, you know. But then again
there was the iron cheek where when you had the opposite of that. So the thing was you could grab onto these characters and instantly once you kind of let them endear themselves to you or ben kind of like okay, like you you buy it. The rest takes care of itself. And that's the number one missing ingredient in pro wrestling today. Oh my gosh, and I was just watching that long winded Sorry, no, no, no, my gosh. This is why me and you get along. And I'm part of radio.
Dude, I could talk talk talk talk talk. My girlfriend has selected listening. But here's the thing I was just watching. I'm doing a thirty nine days and trying to thirty nine days of WrestleMania marathon going on. I was watching WrestleMania two when Junkyard Dog, I can't remember who he was, Tito Santana, Tito Santana taking on the Funk Brothers, and like I'm sitting there noticing it's the production is much more different. Back when WrestleMania first started.
There's not a whole lot of production. There's really not a whole lot of merch. I think only holk Ogan had the had a theme song. But then you go to WrestleMania too, your true characters had the T shirts. There was only whole Comania shirts, hot Rod shirts and surprisingly enough Junkyard Dog shirts. And when that son of a bitch came out, Dude,
that crowd went nuts, went nuts. No, I'm shocking because I always knew of him, always kind of understood and like I've heard the people talk about him, you, the Prichards, the people in the industry talk about him, but just like sitting there and watching and understanding just kind of blown away. No, no, no, like jy d is just like I mean, he is just some like cause again, like I'm partial to people that you know, get over and like don't necessarily need the world heavyweight title.
Sure, and like I've always kind of prided myself in that. Yeah you know, but like I don't bow down to anyone, but jyd I bowed. Yeah, there was just like that. I mean, man, and again, why couldn't like I don't know, I always saw things right as like you know, the champion or whoever the guy is right, and I understand Hogan needed to be champion back then. Let can we talk booking
for a second. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah yeah, pal, yeah, right, and where I can understand the reasoning at wanting to keep like, Okay, this is our champion. We need to ingrain him with the title in the public's eye, right, So that was the right decision. Obviously it was the right decision, right, Like, look at what happened for we But that means when you look at that roster right. So again, Jyd, we we've been and I'm glad we're talking about him.
Give him the credit deserves Hacksaw Jim Duggan. I mean, you tell me that the public to this day they are in love with Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Yeah, exactly, all right. How many five star matches has Jim dug andhad? Because when you are a star, you don't need a star rating. Nope, that there, you know what I mean, That's just that's
that's the truth. Like I think, I think that that's a beautiful way of looking at it, just because everyone falls into the uh and you and you mentioned on a Chris Van Vliet's show that there was a skeleton of what you had to be to become a pro wrestler, and then you learn your pro wrestling from Kowalski, but you really got into school with OVW. And Cody Roos has said that too, like he didn't have a college experience, he had a Louisville experience. And once you got to OVW, of course
that was a part of the system. They taught you, like you knew how to work, but now like you're actually you're a wrestler on television as you said, now you're like learning what the hit, You're learning how to soap things in learning, how to react learning, and like you said before, you're learning how to carry a television angle. Uh somewhere in the boonie somewhere in Paduka people that's not watching, and you're just kind of keeping that
angle going. That art has been lost along the way, and just only with the the what do you what is it called CrossFit training and the just the throwing stuff and it's it's I don't know where they got lost along the way, but you shed a perfect good light on it when talking about it. No, and the reason it went away is because a bunch of halfwits opened up wrestling schools that had no business doing so. Yeah, you know, I am not a trainer. I don't consider myself a wrestling trainer.
I don't have the patience to teach anyone. But there are some very good trainers out there, and you need to simply ask yourself what have they done? Have they ever made a living at this if you have never depended on pro wrestling as your primary source of income. And I ain't talking about people that are doing side jobs and now I'm talking about like you are on television being flown out, you know what I mean? And then that is how
you do it. You have no business training, you know, because I I'm seeing now that there are people that are trainers that aren't able to put a side headlock on correctly. I'm not exaggerating, right, and that's that's very sad, right. But I always love the term I hate to cut you off. Always love the term what a risk lock from a risk watch?
Always oh yeah, yeah, one hundred percent and then uh and then But but the term today is you don't know an empty arena from a full one because you're working for yourselves, you're not working for the people, and
you think, oh, this will be good. People will see it and I'll stick it on my Instagram, Like okay, but guess what, they're gonna see a million moves like that, right, give them a show, give them Like there's a poll about ae W where it said, yeah, it's uh, it's not as fun as it was, Like eighty five percent of fans are saying it's not as fun as it was because you know what, again, I think philosophically, it's it's like you're trying to go with
a more competitive kind of like it's the style that does not translate booking wise to North America bottom line, and it's no one's fault, right, Like you can be an amazing you know booker, and it's like like for a more like kind of shoot style like Japanese. Right, And again I do not know a lot about Japanese wrestling. I have a tremendous amount of respect
for it. Look at the legends it's created. Sure, and it's just again it's not my forte, right, I can't speak intelligently enough about it, right, So I'm not I'm not going to standing except for incredible athletes. And you know, there's been some some There's definitely been people that have been able to like to Jerry's amazing, you know what I mean. And then people that have an understanding of both markets, the Dean, Thelenko's you
know what I mean. And it's great, but like if you look at it from this way, right, if you if you cannot tell people who you are in three to five seconds, and this is the simplest way I can put it, and I'm talking about if they're flipping through the channels or if you you come through a curtain and you're in a room, whether you're at Madison Square Garden or a rec center, right, people need to know who you are. And if you don't, and if if you're like,
what do you mean know who I am? If you have to ask yourself that question, then you're thinking in the wrong way. And that's like, that's the advice to any wrestler. I hope I didn't get too uh philosophical and deep there. Also, I don't want to like no, no, that that's that's state. That statement has been echoed on our show before. I mean Al Snow has came on and he's been a big proponent of saying that we all know Al Snow a huge character guy and huge like watching him.
Have you got You've got the chance to check out wrestlers on Netflix right scope through all that I got, you got to visit. Uh you've visited Alan O BW a couple of times since being back, haven't you. Absolutely? No, I love it there, Like I said that that, Uh, it's like I feel like I'm home when I'm there because it's just like that weird nostalgic feeling. Yeah, and it's a it's a very very cool
place. And I got, I got. I gotta let you know, because a lot of the times there was I feel like maybe everyone had this spot in pro wrestling at least growing up. Of course, I was a diehard wrestling fan. I lived in Tucson, Arizona my whole life. My I had family here. This is where we came for vacation. And I remember my dad always saying, well, there's an Ohio Valley wrestling here,
and I'm like, what's that. I didn't know the Internet and all that, and I started, you know, paying attention, found out that they had the connection with WWE, and that's you know why. That's why I was privy to you, Nick Dinsmore, uh, And I was privy to it was a very last of brock Lesnar if I can remember, Yeah, yeah, and that's when I really got to go, and I just I
just loved it. That was one of my first, like I don't remember my first like NFL games sometimes, and I remember the sites and sound of walking in to Davis Arena and it's just like so one thing that draws me back to that. I remember the summer Sizzling series they did this Kingdom and I remember it seems like several times where I came down because I always came down in the summer. You were the heel and you were always facing the WWE guy. It seems like yeah, and my correct, did you did
you ever take one Sena during one of those shows? I can't, Okay, I remember he definitely taking on Scena. I think he came out in a hummer and was raining that day if something like that. No, no, no, that was like your yeah, I didn't know, okay, yeah that was actually we had nice weather for Yeah, I mean, what can it if you could just kind of just take me back through like kind of memory lane, like to me, that was like the peak OVW. Is that what you remember it as or was there like a many or was
there like another version in your in your mind? No, that was yeah, that was ov W. Yeah, that was the six Flags Super Summer Sizzler series. And man, it's like every time because I'm a little guy, like I just when I'm on uh criten by the airport, like yes, oh my god, Like when I drive by it, I'm like, oh, oh, you see that Batman Arena, that Batman Theater, Yes, like yeah, that was And that's what I'll say, that was a very very fun time. And I look back on my ov w d's we
had we had a lot of fun. Did they have a big area for you backstagees I look at it now, like the skeletons of it, it doesn't look like too much remain. So they hooked you up pretty well. We had trailers and everything, and they're okay, Yeah, there was all kinds of fun we had. That stuff was you know, that stuff was amazing. Several times I remember seeing it coming down. I remember Jerry the King Lawler coming down. I think Eddy Guerrero at some point. It was
that that stuff was just absolutely fun. I remember I remember one time Nick Din's More Eugene, he was in the Eugene character. He came out to one of the loudest pops I've ever heard. Yeah, it just it just any He started beating the hell out of people with kindos stick and it was, man, I just my heart flutter is thinking about it, and just I find myself working at the at the Expo Center a lot, whether if I'm doing like Louder than Life or if I'm doing any activations out there with
the fine people. Yeah, the Xpo cent I always look over to that area right next to that T two machine, and I think, man, that's hollow ground when we're talking about OBW and wrestling to me is Kentucky. Absolutely, absolutely, So one of the other things. Let's kind of jump forward a little bit just because and here here's where I want to kind of get to talk about it. We're coming into WrestleMania season, and like you said, there's no better time to be an NWA fan, there's no better
time probably to be a wrestling fan. I can only imagine everybody gets tightened and everybody's best stories come out and everything like that. You've been a part of WrestleMania season. You've been a part of obviously one of your biggest acts that probably didn't even really mean to get over. I'm pretty sure he came on the show and said that before working with Mizdow and you guys had a
WrestleMania moment. I think it was WrestleMania thirty one is when you guys, it was after several months of doing the Misdow character and you finally made the change. And here's a couple of things where I want to talk about booking and WWE and your time there, whether whether who the powers it may have been in charge talk to us maybe if you can talk about like that that
that that sort of split. I can only imagine you and and Miz were having a great time doing that, did I mean, there's several schools of thought in my mind just as a wrestling fan, just because I know that there's some vindictiveness in the w WE. Sometimes I think that, at least during some previous administrations, that they kind of like to rig people and throw
people together just because they we don't have anything for your pal. But I can only imagine you guys made something out of nothing with that, and then you kuy has kind of gotta you get to a point where you have to split. Like what's kind of going through your mind? Like do you do you think that, all right, I kind of made something out of myself with this miz Now character. Or do you kind of think that it's gonna everything's kind of done after that split, after that big moment at Mania.
Sorry if that was a long winded question, No, not at all in my head everywhere, No, it's fine, And like like to answer your questions right, like it's always to me right, like like look at sandout. Look at misdow, right, all right, whatever made them what they were. If I am given consistent television time, I pretty much take care of the rest. Sure, that's that's my thing, right, And that's
all that was. It was consistent television time. So look with mis and I, yes, you could only go on so long, and we both thought, hey, now's the time. Did the deal? You know? Again, the WrestleMania thing didn't happen. So I'm like, all right, whatever, I'll just wait till they throw me in something else. And it's like, what can you do? You know? I do know that towards the last month or so leading up to Mania, there were certain people who
were throwing around questions that didn't need to be throwing them around. And again I'm not gonna name names, but sure, well where do we go after this? It's like, you're a wrestler, you're not in the creative team, Like why do you care? You know what I mean? Like you care because yeah, like you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, you care because you don't want anyone you have your own interest to protect.
Yeah right, so like stick your nose up. But that was indicative of you know it wasn't just saying it to me, was saying it to other people. Yeah, and uh, all right, what do you do? What? What? What can you do? Like at that point, I mean, look, it is what it is, and there's only so much that a talent can control. And you know, look at the time, I was a lot more emotionally invested in wrestling now or then, sorry, and I I just I'll never let wrestling get to me like that again.
And because that that respect of it, where I I do, I have this this kind of weird cognitive distance like and uh and I know that's I didn't mean to stay dissonance. I meant I meant distance because like, I don't let my brain engage in a lot of aspects of wrestling, right, which allows me as a performer to be able to function within the margins that
I need to function in. I hope that didn't sound like the ramblings of a madman, because I assure you there's a time line between Geniu said sanity and you can make up your mind, but you're probably about ninety percent mad man. No, it's about ninety percent mad man of an answer, and I probably wouldn't expect anything else from Aaron the Idol Stevens on the baby Faces
podcast on iHeartRadio. I do have hi. Yeah, I mean it's I'm talking bad man like Jackie ar o'halley right when't he and that shit was in the movie part right? Okay, so I think mad or no I might, I'm thinking so right, yeah, okay with the face who's the guy the face cloth with the madman? I get. There's there's so much I get missed up. I get people say I look like John Ham. So let me ask you a question before we split, and I guess we'll just
we We partly said name dropped any names. Let's just say there's that split. Just as an actor and I have hadn't listen to several times where people have respectively just walked into the power whoever powers it be, whether that be Vince lauren Itis, and just say like, hey, like what are we
doing with the character? Like are you I know you also said that you weren't into politicking too, You're just kind of you're just you're pros pro are and you just kind of, you know, it just seems like was there ever going into there and saying like, Okay, what am I doing next or do you just kind of find out the next couple of weeks, like what they have you with like Bo Dallas doing a couple back to your dressing up getting like is that something that you kind of have Like, all right,
what are we doing after this now? Because it seems like it seems like it seems like you're the kind of guy that at least like take interest in his character enough to do that. And I can see where you could get fed up afterwards. Yeah, but I mean, like me, I I'm weird, Like I have this we'll call it bravado. It's it's borderline
arrogance. But it has to be right, like no, in order for me to perform, like I have to write because if I'm not thinking about wrestling all the time and this and that, and I have to show up and then this is what I did in WW by the way. So it's like a two fold answer question. Don't talk to the writers. If they want me to know something, they'll let me know, right interesting. If not, chances are I'll just you'll get get my marching orders and I'll do
it. Yeah, but as a character, no, like I'm you tell me what I'm doing. I mean, literally then w A. There have been times where I have been told what my promo is as I'm going through the curtain. Yikes, I mean that does that make it interesting? Though? No? Not yikes. I do it because I like, I want to do it. Like I'll say, don't tell me, don't tell me, I don't tell me, and I'll tell me. Right what am I
doing? You know this happened more in Georgia. But yeah, but no, like to me as a character, I don't make mistakes, sure I don't. And it's like people messed up in the ring, the whole thing, Oh my god, what do we do? And when they panic? And no, if you're in character, you don't mess up. And that's the difference, right, So that's that's what I've always done in WW And yeah, like I wasn't a politiicer right for me to go and knock on Vince's office? And what do I have to do to get a push?
No? What you have to? Like, I'm gonna get over all right, And look, I mean my body of work right, good, bad, and different, and people will look at me a number of different ways, right, I kind of can't deny my crowd reaction, right, and then there's so that was my like all right, like if that, if you don't see that, then okay, then you're like just not wanting to use me. And that's it, Like you you want to go in a different direction, right, Like you don't want to make me the guy,
So that's fine. Like there's nothing I can do to convince you other than get over. I'm not gonna to stab people in the back which was encoarded. You know, I'm not going to you know, kyw tow and kissed anyone's backside for the sake of doing it. Now, I'm gonna go out there perform, do my job, and do it to the best of my ability. Sure, I mean, that's that's it, right, Like it's that's that's a great thing that I mean, just like I said, that's
a that's a pros pro. And they just kind of like understanding, like this is what this is what the fans want, and this is because you know what, you're not going to be a type of ruin a show and you're not a vindictive person whatsoever. And of course wrestling seems to be very easy to get or it seems like the person's not in the right mindset.
It's very easy to get cynical, right, and it doesn't seem like sure, you may have had either bad experiences or the way things let go, but at least I get the vibe from you that everything happens for a reason. You did what you did, and then you're here. You're here because of it, and you sound grateful because of everything. Oh am, Yeah, Like I said, life is, it's very interesting. Right now.
There's been you know, appearance on The gut Field Show. Yeah, that that's kind of leading to leading down some other doors of the funniest shows on Netflix. I think you should leave. I mean, we buried the lead with that one you're on. It's a fantastic shit the Drive. Like I'm getting offers now to do projects. I'm like, oh okay, like I
can turn down movie those nice yeah, you know. And it's weird how like one thing like that will go and again winning an Emmy and they actually use the screenshot of Tim and I yes for the thing that said they won an Emmy and that was like the snapshot they used for the press. I was like, oh, you know, that's better than winning some stinking briefcase. Right, Oh yeah, whatever, we saw that, But yeah,
I think that's fantastic. I mean, whatever iteration that you're in, whether you're on Netflix, OBW, NWA, whether I'm watching you on the Peacock Network from back in twenty thirteen. Hell, maybe we're talking back in two thousand and nine when you are like playing a security guard probably getting your ass kicked somewhere at the do you never did that? Actually you never did one of those. I feel like I feel like, you know what who I think it is. And maybe now that I sit here and think about it,
you and Cliff Compton, is that that's Deuce or Domino? Right? Which which one? Domino? Domino? You guys, you both have that same heel face and like this Jack look. I'm pretty sure I remember waking my dad up because I remember him like taking me to an OBW show. Later on that I remember something. Someone was playing security guard for Triple H and I remembered that face. It was O b W. I ran and
woke my dad up. It's a school night, he's he's got ow guys, And by the time I got down, there's a commercial, like you know that they played the replay of the cops getting their ass kicked but you can't tell. Boy that was I just remember, but yeah, I thought that was you. But you guys kind of have like a you guys are bils that I hated back in the day. Oh thank you? I mean, which is the Deuce and Domin know love their tag team by the way,
they were also fantastic. Yeah, I still jam out to their WWE entrance music they have like that fifties like Buffy Ye and that fantastic, Like that's ob W them, Cody Road, Seawan Spears you like, that's that's Ohio Valley Wrestling dude. Yeah, yeah, plants go back and be uh go back anytime soon work with them or on anything with Like I would love to see you on ob W TV sometime man. Yeah, hey you never know, right, stay tuned. Yeah, but again, like like n
W, are you haven't downloaded the CW app? It is free? Yes, And again it's like it's raftling as we say, it's that like the the heart of it. It's that old school wrestling villages of phenomenal job. You know. The show looks amazing, like the uh god like the artistry of some of the sets and stuff we have now and it's really kind of it's like it never left, right, It's like it stayed in that time
capsule. Yeah, it's the time capsule. But it's definitely like our own version, right, like like Bill, what Billy brings to the table. Yeah, and it's like all that awesomeness has been sort of just married too, like the old school kind of feel, and it's just it's awesome, Like I really really am, Like and I told Billy this, I was like, man, you know, as much of a traditionalist as I am, I go, this set is incredible. It's exciting to be a part
of. I can only imagine. So it's cool. It's just a cool place. And again both in Alabama, that is May the I'm March third, that's the Saturday yep. And uh yeah we're just uh we're getting ready for it. Heck yeah, brother, Where can people follow you on Instagram? X Twitter, whatever the hell you want to call that? You got to program? Where can people support you at Aaron so Instagram? It is the Aaron Files t h E a r o n Files and x Twitter Aaron
a r o n s thoughts awesome, Awesome. Well, like I said, dude, whatever face that you've been to whether Aaron the Idol Stevens Damiens sand out whether you're angry guy not trying to pay? Uh the pay, the pay, the gracious tab on. I think you should leave. You very entertaining this. You can't, you can't. I can't even tell you how gracious I am to have you. This has been awesome. I hope to have you on again sometime. Man, hey, it was fun. Thank you,