So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is recorded on the Baby Bubble with Claire and Jesse Stevens. It's definitely not a parenting advice podcast. Hey mamas, Hey mamas, we've missed you. We've missed you a lot, and we're just jumping in because we're never short on advice. And the people have been desperate. They have been running around with crying babies, holding them upside down.
Their babies haven't slept since our last episode, Claire, because they need us to help, to help, they going, I don't know what to do. I need you guys, and it's a responsibility, but we have to do it. It's honestly, it's enough pressure for me to keep my baby alive. You're keeping your baby alive. I'm often keeping your baby alive, and you'll keep my baby live, et cetera. But to keep everyone's babies functioning is a lot. But it's a burden that we carry on. The Baby Bubble is our
cross to bear. So before season two kicks off, it's imminent, it's fun. We have some exciting things planned. We actually do have some. We're very excited for it. That's in a few weeks. We thought we'd address an urgent listener dilemma that's come in and it was marked urgent, capital letters, exclamation mark, urgent, urgent. We thought it was a legal letter. It wasn't. That was a different email. But we feel quite qualified to speak on this at the moment. We're
experts in a lot. We're particular experts in this crap crap crap advice. You're ready for the dilemma, Claire, I am ready for the dilemma. Go all right. It is as follows. Hi, you too, if it's urgent. I don't know why we've got preambled. I was like, just get into it. Yeah, thanks so much for season one. You're really delivered on being decided unhelpful and if anything, you made me a worse parent, So thanks for that. No, no worries anyway, I need some advice. We're here for you.
My wife is working a fair bit from Singapore at the moment, and an opportunity has come up for me to come over with our ten month old and stay in a lovely hotel and do some sightseeing. While it all sounds great. Because of her work schedule, I will have to do the flight there and the flight back on my own. We're not rich, so the flight will be economy important note I really, I mean I didn't assume it would be anything other than economy. Yeah, but thank you for thank you, thank you. I think it
sounds fun, but it will also be hard work. Do you honestly reckon it's worth it? Should I go or just stay home where it's easier? Now, Jersey, we are in a unique position to respond in that we have our own plane, a private plane that takes us to and from the Bahamas. Okay it doesn't, we don't. We went on a holiday, yeah recently. Yeah, and you went with your eleven month old and I went with my five month old, and we had two very very different experiences.
Because of that, some might say small age gap, not a small age gap when you're traveling, and you say the difference is so, Jess, you're probably in a very good position to talk specifically about the ten month old element of this dilemma. Well, I'm going to jump right into it because I have done a flight on my own, and I am going to tell you what you're going to do. About the flight, because that's first and foremost what we're going to do. I think it's like eight
hours from Sydney. It's like eight hours and twenty five minutes. I looked it up to Singapore and one flight and one flight and eight hours and twenty five backs. So we're talking six tonight. We're talking seventy eight hours. I have a solution on the flight front. Got it. At first, I was worried that in order for this solution to work, her baby needed to walk, and the average ten month old can't walk. But it's okay, crawl role doesn't matter.
This is what I need. You go towards your boarding gate. You put your baby on its side, and you roll it onto the plane. Oh wow, okay, so you roll the baby onto the plane. I'll throw a toy. I'll throw a toy. Joe, go catch her, catch you walk away? Oh wow. So baby's borded the flight, baby's boarded, doors closed. Hm, okay, problem, baby can't hold baby's ticket. Baby's gonna lose baby's ticket. Oh stick it to its head. Oh okay, yeah, okay, so you've stuck the boarding pass to it and passport
and yeah, yeah, put it and it's snappy sticking out. Yeah. In fact, I think I told you I went through security once couldn't find my passport. Look down, Luna was holding it. I was like, I don't know where you got that. But they're actually good with gripping things that they're not meant to hold. So baby's probably crawling with passport boarding pass stuck to head. Baby's on plane. This
is officially someone else's problem. What you do is you go and get a slightly later flight to Singapore, meet the baby at baggage, right, and then what you do is when your partner picks you up at the other end, you go, we've done the whole flight together. Actually tired, you're O judy, Yeah, indefinitely, and do the same on the way back. Love it now, backup option if that doesn't want because you might roll the baby, and the baby might roll in a weird direction and not make
it and not make the flight. Yeah, I've got a question, because okay, all right, this is what you do. You give your baby to a stranger and say, nice looking, not any on the plane, in the line on the plane, Yeah, nice looking stranger, not anyone. We're not irresponsible like a grandma and you say, I'm traveling on my own. Would you mind just holding my baby while I go to the bathroom. Yeah, I've seen it. Catch me if you can that. Apparently you can escape a plane via the bathroom.
Really in that movie he does it, He gets out the bottom of the plane. Because I thus, if they're still boarding, you could just walk out. I think you could also just walk out. The thing is you asked them to mind your baby. You didn't say, and it's on them. Yeah, that's called responsibility. It's how the social contract works. I don't make the rules, but they are looking after that baby for eight hours and twenty five minutes. What are they going to do? Just put it down
and ignore it now, it would be really irresponsible. Yeah, so then you obviously pick baby up at baggage carousel, go on with your life. It's actually really good for their independence. Discussion. Yeah, I do. In Vizige, the baby coming out on the baggage carousel. Yeah, as though it is a piece of luggage. Well that's a bit of fun. You could say to the person. Maybe you do tuck a note into the nappy so when they change the nappy,
just be like, meet me at baggage carousel too. Luckily, I have a way better advice okay than you do. Planes need a crash, Oh yeah, genuine one. I don't know who would voluntarily do that job, but maybe if you paid them one million dollars a year, you might find one person who would mind all the babies. So there's this thing online and this is unfortunately potentially helpful. So I'm flagging that you can skip ahead if you
don't want it. If not, there is a thing. It is called something I've forgotten, and what it is is it gets young travelers who want to make money like while they're away this. I know two people who have just done this, say I'm going to Europe, and it pairs them up with someone who needs special assistance on a flight. So maybe you're someone who's like you're slightly unwell, or you've broken your leg, or you've got babies that
you need help with. You're paired up with someone you then make an agreement about I'm going to pay you five hundred bucks to help me look after my baby on the flight. That's a lot of money. No, I've just pulled that out of my arm, but like any amount, and then they agree to it. Okay. So it's a thing that's set up. It's called like Juno or jung or something. Okay. The problem is you're still on the flight with your baby, yeah, and you feel like somewhat
obligating you. Yeah. The idea of the crache is, you know, kind of in the old days, planes used to have like a different setup. They'd have just like a table and chairs. You know, you see a photo you see you're thinking of a train. You see photos of old style planes. I'm not convened, and they were different, and so I just think that they're looking know that there is room for a crage if they knock out first class. TikTok knows. I am particularly interested in watching like first
class cabins of ridiculous planes. And there's ones that are like a lot of square feet and it has a double bed and blah blah blah. Like, tell me that one of those couldn't be a crash. Yeah, exactly, they need to be a crash. These are the things that don't make sense that then support why the cration needs to happen. So they want you to put the baby on your lab and use the baby seat belt, which would be fine. But I don't know if they've ever
met a baby. But baby doesn't want to sit on my lap ever ever, not at a cafe, not on my lounge in my own home for thirty seconds. So this is hugely dangerous. Then they've got the basinets you can book like a bassinet seat where the bassinet is in front of you. Baby doesn't fit well. Sometimes baby doesn't fit. A baby doesn't fit. I've never known baby fit well. Matilda fit. She fit on a okay, okay, So she slept in the bascinet. Yeah, lovely, okay, But
when there's turbulence, take got to take them out. And so baby's fast asleep in the basinet and it's like bing bong and take your baby out. So I'm gonna wake her up and she's not going to go back to sleep for three hours. And the thing is, I'm sorry, do you think that she's safe in my lap for the turbulence? That's the thing. Because the bassinet has a strap over it, it's fine. I also think that maybe on planes they a little bit make up rules as
they go. I agree. I haven't told you this, but on the flight home from Europe, we'd already been in transit for seventy two days. People start doing weird shit and it's fine. Matilda was asleep in her basinet. Yeah, I had the cozy Go, which again I'm sorry, it's an actual recommendation. It's like a bacinet cover goes it like clips to the sided basnet. She's sleeping like a dream. I'm dozing. My partners just dozing. We're like, holy shit, we almost went great gray. Yeah, but we're gonna get
some good rest. Then I get working aggressively by flight attendant. He's like, excuse me, you need to take that off the basinet, the cozy go. Yeah. I'm like, this happened on my fly. This woman was like, yes, got told by a flight attendant you need to take this off. And she's like no, I'm sorry, but no I don't. And it was like a full and the woman heard the cozy girl was right. She's like, just take it off. Why? And I'm a rule followers. I'm like, oh, I know,
I'm going to take it off. But I was like, just typically, you want me to intentionally wake my sleeping baby. Yeah, and the lights are on, so she's definitely gonna wake up. Yeah. It's like everyone's fine, she's fine. That cranky man behind me is fine. I mean, I would never criticize flight attendants. I think that they do God's work and ninety nine percent of them are great. But even flight attendants are
with me on this. Yeah, on every flight, there's one and she is making up rules, and she's walking through the corridors and things are quiet for a moment, and she says, open your window. You're like, we're not landing. We're not landing, you know. I don't know if I told you this, but I had my seat reclined. It was two am, liked by time, and I had my seat reclined, and I was made to put my seat up every time the person behind me wanted to eat. Oh yeah, don't you got it. I knew that you
got to do that. No one else on the flight had to do it. I was watching, you gotta do that. You can't be reclining your seat during real time. It's two am. No one wants, no one wants breakfast. Okay, yeah, okay, you can eat. Anyone can eat with your flight. I was looking around everyone's seats, a fully reclined you can eat. I'm sorry, we're not putting all things back up. We're not. I got yelled at by a cranky multiple times. Was if you make me wake up Matilda, she's gonna scream.
It's do you want to settle her? And you, I think, Baby, you start an impromptu crash on board. So you find a mum who looks like she's handling it just okay. Always she's gone to two kids, she's got to she together, she's ready for the flight. Yeah, and you go in your mind, my baby for a second, you run, oh yeah, so we're similar here. Yeah, you run off the flight. Yeah, they're still boarding other people and you say, sorry, sorry, I just dropped something around the corner. Okay, and you leave.
That's just my idea. Yeah I know, but I'm saying impromptued crash is my bit baby with stranger, which is my idea. Yeah. Well, anyway, that woman with two kids is now running crash knowingly. Okay, I have another thing because once we're done with the flight, which I think we've more than sorted or in Singapore, and it's time to do some activities. Yeah, we've been to Singapore. Really enjoyed it, loved it. A couple of recommendation loved the
Night Night Zoo. Baby will love it our Universal Studios. Well that's my other thing, baby buzzkill Universal Studios only notes I wrote on this whole episode. So I did put baby in teacups. You know the teacups ride that just goes around. Put baby in teacups for a couple of hours. You go, do your rollercoasters. Come back, you'll sleep in teacups. Yeah, have a little giggle. Baby can feed themselves a bottle at that stage. You're good. Yeah, fine,
absolutely fine. I will say. Just something to be aware of is that babies are un predictable. When they go overseas, they start being a different baby. Yes, for reasons. They can't tell you your baby turned into an angel. Weird. Yeah, well things Matilda started doing for literally no reason while we were traveling, pooing five times a day, despising her car seat, sometimes doing one times, vomit all over me at three am, drinking more milk than a baby can
safely honestly drink. Yeah, for the way over there, I prepped bottles for what she would usually consume in that time, so say it was like seven bottles by the time we got to doa which was where we were doing out connecting flight. She'd had them all. Yeah, that was an issue. It was actually really really stressful. Also, I hope the rental car company isn't listening to this. But we had a car and a couple of days into it, we were like, oh, Matilda must have shat in her
car seat because it smells in here. On. I think they've got to be expecting that. Yeah, if you've got a car seat, you're if it's not ship and it's not ramited, it's both. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I was like, oh, she cleared down a bit of a poop. So me and Maury every time we opened the doors were like, palm one of the five foods she's done. This is so bad your pin diet. She's been having bread and shirts and trance. And then I opened the boot there
was a Journey nappy we'd left in there. That's disgusting. So that's you are disgusting. Yeah. Luna inexplicably developed emotion instagraund so every time we got the car, she just vomited within two minutes and she was like, I get sick in the car. I was like, you are eleven months old. You did not get sick in the car until right now she's like, I'm in can well, why
are you vomiting? Anyway, That is our brilliant advice for our listener, and in fact, if you want some somewhat helpful advice, which you know this won't be happening in season two, so don't stress. But there is a link in the show notes to a story I wrote on site about some of the biggest mistakes that I made, and some of that might actually be helpful to you. But otherwise, go to Singapore and go on a roller
coat stuff. Yeah, yeah, the baby, I love the lions. Yeah, no, no, no, definitely, And I think our advice is go, yeah, keep your expectations on the floor. Yeah yeah, before we go, quick horror story, as in, like I reckon, we should all share our biggest horror story from traveling with babies. Okay, I mean mine was obviously the flight home, which I still have nightmare that I'm still on it. It's one of the worst experiences of my life. I say, it's
worse than labor. I don't actually want to talk about it. I can't talk about it. But going to Saint Trepe dot dot dot emergency not a highlight, not a highlight. First thing I saw in Saint Tropez, which I know from a song? Maybe is this more like sand Trapez? Yeah, I don't really understand how to say it, but maybe I also know not from the fake Tan. Isn't there
a fake Tan called Sant Trapez? I don't know, but like that's not really what you know, cra I just know that Leonardo DiCaprio is on a boat around the corner. I just know that. We got to santra Pez and my dad pointed to a yacht and said, that's the one from below deck. And I was like, how do you know about below deck? And he's like, I've seen all of it, and he was right, there was a pull on it. Anyway, you were there doing some Leo
spotting with a younger girlfriend. Where was I? In emergency in Saint Tropez because a little Luruna did have a cough that was so bad we thought it was an RSV type situation. She ended up on antibiotics. It was a whole thing. The doctors went in and did sing her French nursery ralms. It was actually really cute, but that was definitely a low point. How about you Horas Store. Sorry from travel. So I'm in Dublin and I'm at Dublin Castle and I want to do a tour of
the castle. Yeah. I love history castles. This is great fun. It's me Matilda, Mum vibeiconic girls, stay out. Yeah, girl's gone wild. Yeah. Then we buy the tickets. We're waiting there, La la la, Jeff to by Matilda to get No, No, she's just an accessory. No. Yeah, Matilda has, as previously discussed, honestly put on three killers on the plane. Matilda. I think for context, Matilda ain't a small baby. She resembles strongly humpty dumpty. I mean that with love. But she's
she's a heavy gal. She's thick. Yeah, she is thick with a seat. And so this is this is relevant. This is relevant because the tour guide arrives and he's like, hello, during our tour of Dublin Castle. Can't bring a pram. Oh you want me to hold it? Me to hold it? Bring a carrier. It's so heavy. It's so heavy. And Matilda, when she's held, thinks it's playtime. She's like, hey, mom, mum, mum, I play with your glasses and your hair. Yeah, The thing is, did you think the Dublin Castle was going
to have a lift. Yeah. In hindsight, I was like, true, castles aren't known for their accessibility. No, they're not known for their ramps. They're not known for being pran friendly. No. So I had to carry her for this entire tour, up and down very narrow. I mean these are stairs for context. I don't know this, but stairs in castles are like super narrow and made so that every single stair is a different height. Yeah, to stop the enemy. The enemy would stack it when they came in see
you and Matilda. So me and Matilda are like now and Queen are like, I don't want that humpty dumpty in this house. Yeah. And so you're tripping over every step with a very heavy baby. So it was quite sketchy. But then we got to quite a warm room. Uh huh. She fell asleep on me. It was really cute. Oh wow, she actually I was snoring. I felt disrespectful to the tour guide. Yeah, but carrying a big old baby through a tour that I thought was going to be relaxing,
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