The Audible Ep. 95 | Eric Rowe

better way, Tom, two thousand nineteen. Then going up to New England, new women with a lot on the line, home field advantage, you know, a bye week opportunity to rest up for their first playoff game, and the Dolphins go up there and just throw a monkey wrenching in their plans and in a game which John, you know, first of all, you look at New England, it didn't didn't play very well, Tom Brady, that that offense. Looked at Nemick, their defense is a very great deek, very

good defense. But the Dolphins, you know, made their way found their way around that that that defense. But boy, I was shocked at how how poorly New England played in a game that, based on their history in the postseason, meant so much to them getting that home field advantage and not having to ride through that three run that that that three game run through the wild car the

uh round to get started. I just think that you're looking at a flawed New England team in terms of the talent that you're used to, seeing the way that they execute offensively, and I just don't know if they can depend on that formula moving forward when they're gonna play that gauntlet if it gets to they either have to go through Kansas City or Baltimore, and I just don't know if that offense is gonna be able to travel.

You know, usually you're worried about your defense traveling. Well, your defense, This defense can travel, But I don't know if they can score or keep up with Baltimore or Kansas City, even get by Tennessee at home is gonna

be a struggle next week for them. And going back to our game, I just thought it was I mean, I I said in the beginning of the game, I felt that the Dolphins had to withstand the first five to seven to eight minutes of the game, if they could get into the rhythm of the game, if they could not allow a quick touchdown, if they can move the football offensively, not necessarily score, but move it to the fact that Hey, we're gonna be here all for

four quarters. This is not gonna be a three out type of scenario where you're blitzing us and we have no answers. I thought that that very first drive went, we went down, you know, move the football effectively. Ryan did a great job and finding different receivers, moved it with his legs again, got a little bit of the running game going. I just felt that that was that

was a statement. That was a statement to say, like, you know what this means something us too, might mean something to you, but we want to finish on the right note, no doubt. And you know, coming out like that, there's a couple of things in New England there to me, there are two. There are two, let's say, ten minute periods that you've got to survive. You got to survive

that opening ten minutes. You don't want them to come down and go tend nothing on you before you bat an eye, you know, with a pick six or something that you know they're you gotta survive that first ten minutes. And then more importantly than that, you gotta survive that ten minutes when you come out of the locker room. Because this team I've seen so many times with the Dolphins where they've gone up there and they played a

pretty good first half. Feel like, man, we're in this thing, you know, we get and all of a sudden that second half comes out and go where this come from? Where these guys come from the uniform. All of sudden they're just rolling down the field that that defense is smothering and everything. These guys started cranking up the music. Only idiots getting, you know, in the problem with with it.

There's this one guy I always see there and I have surmised over that they got going, hey, wear's boat camera. I'm surmised over the years that this guy is a cop because I saw like a brawl up there one end and he jumped to action, you know, put the guy in armbar. So I'm assuming he's some guy in a copy. He wears one of those spit hats. It looks like their logo, and he's got that. He's right in the front row and he's a loud mouth and he's just that. But you can't say anything because they're

kickings every time. You know, I always want to walk by him and go look at this and look at the way your dressed. You know who you brought to the game, but I've never had a chance to. And now all of a sudden, I don't go to the game, and I missed my chance. There you go, that's shant that you got. I might have been able to help you out. But no, I mean, but those you know, those those two that that that ten minutes after the

half of that in the Dolphins did. I think they just did an awesome job of just managing the way the game was going and taking advantage of what was given to him. And and you know, we we've talked about a time and time again, almost at nauseum. Now fits and what he's meant to this team when he meets each and every week, and just all the things

that he gives this team. You talked about that first drive going to Davante moving with his feet a little bit, doing everything, running in for another touchdown later in the game. I mean, just he just well, I mean, I'm amazed at what he can do for where he's at in

his career. And I was thinking about this. We're doing a post game last night, and I'm thinking to myself, you know, we've had We've had Hall of Fame quarterbacks in Bob greasy, and Dan Marino I said, and I don't I think you know, the only time I've ever seen some a quarterback come in for a one year stint like this and and make this much impact With Chad Pennington, right, Pennington came in and realized stabilized the whole offense and took him into the playoffs, the whole thing.

And and fitz didn't get in the playoffs. But but I think fitz was working with a much different palette than than than Pennington was working with from from a talent standpoint. But it's just remarkable looking back and counting this game, looking back and thinking how much Fitzpatrick has met to this football team, beginning in the fourth quarter of the Washington Redskins and moving forward to what this team has become right now. It's amazing how a team

can respond to a player. And you would say, if he's gonna play any position, it better be quarterback because he's in control of a lot of things. You know, he's kind of getting the formations, getting the terminology correct, getting the information out to everybody, adjusting on the fly, making sure everybody has those things that they need to be successful on that particular play. But I think the intangibles you cannot put a price on what what he

brings to this team. Now I don't I wouldn't necessarily limited to the offense. I would say that the defense picks up on the vibe when they're sitting on that bench and they're looking up at the big board and they go, man, he did it. Look at that did our guy didn't begin? You know, he did it again. He moved the chains again, we get to rest for

another three plays or whatever the case may be. I just think that that that that brings the team together when you have a guy at that position that can do it with his action, not so much his words,

but then sometimes he does it without saying much. It's just that look or that that feeling you have when he saunters into the huddle with confidence and he and he's bringing everybody's temperature down so they can think instead of just kind of flying off and you miss all those pre snap penalties and everybody's you know, on edge.

He brings a calmness to the team, and I think that over over there, probably the last month and a half, you've seen that filter into everybody every phase of the game. Kind of takes on his bravado and I think that's that's a great one to have. I think you're right. I think he permeates the defense as well as as he commands that offense. And and it's it's remarkable to watch.

And John you you talk you, I think you mentioned the thing to me that's most it's hard to put your finger on you you see it, and you know it when you see it, But it's hard to put your finger on it. But you know, you you look at his look at the way. Not the greatest runner in in in at the quarterback position in the National Football League, not the greatest passer in in the in the quarterback position. But I don't know that I've seen many quarterbacks in this league that have the package of

intangibles that he has. And you mentioned intangibles, those things that you can't you can kind of point to, but you can't put your finger on it what it is. But it's just you know, it's it's you know, I've experience I experienced that. I've said this before, I've I E arean still a lot with with with a guy that we had in Don Strock. You know, Don was the guy that rarely played. He was a backup guy. He was the ultimate backup. He was like a coach on the sideline. He was a mentor to Danny when

Danny came in. He learned from Greece, you know, and so he has he's wealth of knowledge over there, and you know, and and he brought intangibles even though he wasn't in the game. He brought intangibles. You know, this guy is is very similar. But he's in the game and he and he's making things happen. And sometimes you want to how, you know, how how can that guy how can a guy see that seemed to step through and then look a guy off and then pick up

ten yards to give me a critical first down. Well, when you're not expecting it, just it goes on and on on and to the point where you know, I've said this before. I was when when when they signed him, and then when the Rosen deal was done and saying, hey, great, you know, you know your guy physically be a one and done guy. He's gonna come here do whatever, and then Rosen is gonna get his chance and probably be

the guy. And boy, what a what a what a what a mistaken idea entity that I put on with with the situation with the quarterback because fits you know, now, I think it's pretty clear that Rosen's tenure with the Dolphins is probably pretty much numbered at this point. But boy, everybody in this building, everybody that's been that's a serious fan that's watched this football team, is saying, you damn right, I want him back next year. I don't care what

happens with the draft. I don't care what happens, and I don't care what happens in that quarterback room. I want him to be one of those guys in that room, and you know what, I want him to have the football first and see who can see who can take it away from him. I just think it's exciting for Miami Dolphin fans to know that you're going to get a young quarterback in the next year and a half to two years that hopefully is going to be the

next franchise quarterback of the Miami Dolphins. You're gonna have that opportunity um to select a guy that that might come in and be the guy for a long time. But you have a quarterback and Ryan Fitzpatrick that's going to push this guy, that's going to teach this guy that's going to all the things necessary to show him

how to be the best pro he can be. At the same time going to compete with this guy to to make him be be that that player you want him to be on the field, not only in the classroom or in the meeting room, or in the lunch room or going out for a beer to kind of see what type of person this guy is, but going out on the football field and every day pushing him to be at his best so he can raise the

level of the players around him. And I think that's the biggest attribute or or you know, tip of the cap you could give to Fits is that he raised Davante Parker's level of competitiveness and consistency. He raised Mike Asiki's level of competitiveness and consistent consistency. He got a rookie that he worked with in the in the O T A S and work with you know in training camp that he was like, Hey, this kid's gonna be something. He's one of the best guys I've seen to come

around in a long time. He got Alan hearns to play at a higher level. You know, he got a lot of guys. You know, let's not. Let's not forgive that this offensive line struggled and he helped that offensive line. His move his ability to move in the pocket, his ability to see that crack and you know when when everything's coming in, stepped through that crack and all now the rush is behind him. He can look across the field, throw it, run it, do whatever he needs. I mean,

he's helped. He's helped every aspect of that offense, from the from the from the guy who snaps him the ball to the guy who catches the ball. The guys are blocking everybody that that participate in this offense. At some point he made them better. You know what's funny, Boat, I'm standing on the sidelines yesterday and I'm always watching it through the goggles of if I was still playing

the position at quarterback. So I'm standing there and there's a TV time out and the kind of plays are going back and forth and change a possession, we're gonna get the football, and my eyes immediately go to the quarterback. I'm making sure I'm counting who's on the field and what's out there. But then I immediately go to Ryan and I'll watch him and he's got his you know chin strap unbuckled. He's trying to get his beard right and you know, trying to fit the chin cup to

get it in there just right, you know. And as he's doing it, he's kind of sauntering onto the field. He's not running, he's not walking, but he's kind of just meandering towards the huddle. And at that time, the lineman are kind of looking around, where's our guy, you know, and they see him and there's no panic because he doesn't. We don't need to go right now. You guys need to get your ship together. You guys need to get your mind right, because when I step in the huddle,

we're gonna get going. So everybody kind of has their break period. And I'm thinking that's the way that that's the way I see it, and if I'm seeing it that way, those ten other guys have to be seen

it that way. And it kind of brings everybody down to focus on what they need to do on that particular play or they're anticipating that play, and it gets their focus that much instead of having a guy running in there, you know, having you know, having some it just feels right, you know the other thing, and you touched on a little bit is you know, you know you watch his team, is it is it progressed through

the year. I mean take take week one and week two, you know, Baltimore and in New England to to just pitiful games. It looked like it was gonna be it's gonna be a track meet all all year long, right, and you guys are gonna worn figure out. You guys are gonaad of wearing their cleats, are gonna wear track bites out there because it's gonna be running up in

the field. But but as as the season went on and you talked about him helping the guys on the other side, you know, you start having drives now one to three first downs, moving the chains where it's not that three and out boom here they come, bang bang bang bang touchdown. Now you're right back on the field again. You know, he he allowed that defense time to catch their breath, time to not be in the in the

in the heat all the time. Now, there were times when they're they're they're behind, and you know they're they're they're they're getting thrown on in this and that. But when that offense was moving, when they had when that

offense and and look it was. This wasn't easy offense to move John, because you look at it now, seasons over, you've played sixteen games, Ryan Fitzpatrick, as you're leading rusher, how do you have an offense that's as effective as it was to win five games when you're when you're leading rusher, is your quarterback? You don't even have three hundred yards? No, you know, So it's not like he's not like DS. You know, he's not not you know, you're not You're not running for a hundred and thirty

yards a game, you know. But but but still, somehow you've made an offense work with I don't know if there's been a I don't know if there has been a team in the National Football League with less total yards rushing in a season than what the Dolphins have had this year. Yet you've been able to put an offense together. It moves the chains, puts points on the board, and it's allowed you went five football games. I think

it's it's a culmination of their execution got better. I mean, obviously it had to the way that this team started. I just think that you know, you had a first time offensive coordinator that kind of got into a groove a little bit more than he was. You know, in the beginning, you're not sure what you have and you're not sure where you're at with your football team. You don't have a really a starting quarterback that you're gonna

say this is our guy for the whole year. You're you're moving in and out of types of offenses that you can run. The offensive line was patchwork for the I don't know most of the season. You know, you had a rotation at guard, you had tackles playing, you know, different positions. I just think that there was a lot of things that contributed to the inability to move the football with any consistency. And as the middle of the season went along, or after that first quarter of the season,

you started seeing more consistency at certain positions. It helps when you have a quarterback that plays at a high level, that doesn't give it away all the time. And you started getting more complimentary football too out of your defense. So I think it's it started to kind of come together a little bit more after that fourth quarter of the of the Washington game, and they got a little bit more consistent. You could argue bo uh for a team that ran the football so little, and that didn't

light the scoreboard on fire. But in the games that they won, scored enough to win. This team could have been a seven six seven wins, I mean, and that's that's that's not a fan in me coming saying you look at you go for you you you make the

two point conversion and and there's another one there. It's six wins, you know, and you were compared to oh, you're going down to score to make it twenty to nine in a game that you've dominated in terms of they didn't do anything, and you know, you throw the pick and all of a sudden they gone eight yards or whatever it was nine And it changes the complexion

and game after the two point conversions. So there there were there were some games in there, you know that you got kind of scratch your head and go this, Yeah, you got to credit the coaching staff. No, I look, I I you know, I I go right there and I keep I keep looking at this scenario where you've got all this money and free agency, you've got all these draft choices. But somehow my mind keeps going to the Nick Needham's, z Eric Rose, the young guys like that.

So you know, some of the linebacker vice Beagles get called these guys some of them were Herns, you know, and um, how about the movement And what all this is telling me is that you know, and these are all guys half of them didn't even start with this team that came in midway here and there, and they've

been thrown in. But what's telling me is that, you know, unlike this year, going in, unlike a lot of years in the past, going in where you know you're you're you're getting your depth because you're keeping every draft choice. You're probably keeping four or five free agent rookie free agents. Because if you want, you know, if you want to you want to pay big money up top, you gotta have some some nickel and dime guys at the bottom.

Great job experience. But now you've got guys out here that the Rows and the Hartages and the you know, Parkers, and these guys that have played a lot of downs. They're gonna come back and they're gonna be your second and third teamers next year. They're they're gonna be someting and some may not. But those guys that may not, Nick to him, I don't see Nick need him starting a corner. But he's going to compete. But he's good. But but but if a guy goes down, he's got

to come in. He's played meaningful plays, he knows the system, he's been in those games. It's nothing new to him. And you can say that across the board offensive line wise, wide, receiver wise, you know, running backwise. You get down to your down to Patrick Lairs. And Patrick Lair is a viable We'll look at Patrick. So look at Patrick Laird yesterday.

Now didn't give me much in the running game this and that especially, he accounted for sixty nine total yards, sixty totally yards of offense, you know, and in an offense that you're kind of picking here and picking there a little screen patiently. But all those guys that the layers of the layers of confidence they're getting most of those guys who are special teams guys by trade and gonna be special teams guys for the most of their career.

But now they've got a level of experience stacked on him of playing in games, of being in big games, of being in those situations putting standing go over receiver. You're gonna, god, damn, I don't know if I can

cover this guy. And then all of a sudden, you do, what about Eric Roe and what he's become This team has had, This team has had tight end envy for for for a second, you have a tight end envy because we don't have a tight end to committed to get down the middle of the field and make big plays. And you have envy because you don't have anyone to get cover him. Now you got a sky that's proven to be that guy. But Eric Roe has proven to be a valuable guy when it comes to the team.

And so you know, you kind of look at you're starting to look at that that new England model up there, and you're starting to see little bits and piece of that like Eric Row. Well, you know what, Eric Row, Uh, you know, bring him back next year and just let him cover tight ends, you know that's what. But that that's that find out what guys do best, put him in that position and let him play that position to

be successful. I agree, I agree, And and you can't say enough about the bottom end to this roster, the way that they've been coached up, the way they had their opportunities. Now some may have thrived a little bit more than others, but they still had all that opportunity to put on tape what they can do. And now when you you have you mentioned the influx of talent. You know, you have the draft choices, you have the undrafted guys come in. Now you've got competition. Now you've

got competition. Not only that is not green as you might have had it, had you had you know, some of the veterans that hung on and you weren't sure where they were gonna go. Hey, you you cut bait with a lot of guys, either through I R or through just you know, we've we've seen enough and now you're gonna have a lot of youth on this football team. This team is still gonna be young and on a team that has a lot of money to spend in

free agency. Like you said, the bottom has to match the top at some point in terms of, well, we've got eight guys we've gotta pay X. We better find another ten or twelve that that can offset that that pay and be able to be viable options on this roster. And I think that that's what the Dolphins with you know, probably five six weeks into the season, when we started to know, hey, who is who's these guys? You know,

who's Hey, Hayes, I don't know. Yeah, but but but who who are these Who's you know hardage at this point, and look at need them and look at the test you've put these guys too. A lot of these guys, you put them to a test. Like guy comes in on Wednesday, You're starting on Saturday. Bro, you better be ready to go because you know we're gonna teach you up. We're gonna school you up. We're gonna put you in the meeting room and let you know. But come Sunday

you're play. And and what you've seen more than not is even if guys see new guys out there and they're not that, but they don't. The thing that the cool thing about this team was no one flinched. All right. We got guys that no one knows. We got guys

that no one would take on their roster. But you know what, we're gonna roll with them because number one, ultimately you're you are what you are in terms of where your records canna be, We're gonna be anywhere from two or three wins to four or five I don't know. I mean, we were kind of going to the grass is green or thinking about the reality of six. But it was there with the roster that no one really would want in terms of they wouldn't want them name only.

They didn't know what type of guy they were. They didn't know what type of players. Who's the guy from Now, I'll take the guy from Oklahoma. Well, maybe I'll take this guy. You know, they might not have wanted, you know, to take a chance on these guys. But when you're looking at a specific type of player, I think that's where the communication from the coaching staff to the front office, what do you need. I need a quick twitch guy that that can run. Okay, let's try this guy this week.

That he didn't. He wasn't the guy who look for Let's try another guy. And they found people now through five weeks, six weeks, seven weeks of actually playing in NFL games, that they feel confident they've got tape on they can go, yeah, we like this trade. We can correct that that flaw, you know, we can correct on technique, on alignment, on how you play the position. Now they got Now they got bodies, Now they have depth, they're

building that. It was almost like sixteen preseason games rolled into a season where you could evaluate and now you now you build depth. But you know, the other thing too, is that you know and I think it was I

want to say it was. Hal Habib wrote an article the other day from the Palm Beach Post, and I found it interesting because he went around and talked to guys in the locker room and said, Hey, what would you say to your a friend of yours or a guy that's a potential free agent or somebody that the Dolphins are gonna trade for. What would you say to

them about coming and playing for the Miami Dolphins. You know, everyone thinks there's a waste land and this and that, and and every guy said, first of all, I tell him this is a place you want to be. And then they said, but if you're gonna come, you better come ready to work, because it's it's it's not mentioning. There's one way gone. It's this west southway, and you better be on time, and you better be ready to work, and you be ready, better ready, be ready to invest

your time in it and be ready to go. And and you heard that refrain over and over of of guy just saying, hey, look, man, you love to be here. But if you be here, if you're gonna come here, and and to me, you know, I've hear it. I've I've heard it too many times here, I've heard it too many times from everywhere else. It's all about culture. It's all about culture. It's all about culture. It's our culture, it's our culture. Well, you know, Adam Gays had a culture.

It was a shitty culture. Everybody's gone, everyone's got a culture. But you're seeing what you're seeing here is is is a culture that demands what makes winning for what's what makes teams win is discipline. You know, don't beat yourself, study hard, be in the right place at the right time, and do your job. And I think that's the culture that's been set out in no uncertain terms to the point when you've got the players saying, hey, yeah, you want to come here because this is gonna be a

good place to me. But but I'm telling you better pack your bad You're better black pack your lunch box because it's no pickling when you come here. How many times did we hear coach Florida say this year you lose more games in the NFL than your exactly and look at all the things that he tried to correct

from day one. What we harped on discipline, self imposed penalties, pre snap penalties, all the little things that that beat you, all the hidden yards and special teams that you can either lose or gain, all the little things that all the unnecessary things. The Dolphins kind of cut those, probably

more than in half. They probably went, you know, closer to you know, a third in terms of being able to be closer to where they want to be and to the top of those, you know, the league in that staff was listen to Joe Rose Show this morning, and he might have been talking to Omar or whoever he was talking to, and they may been Omar. I don't want to I don't want to give anybody the wrong, wrong information. But but the comment he made was, was the last time you saw the Dolphins? Uh one of

the Dolphins of pre snap jump on offense. I can't I'm I'm some driving, I'm going on, I'm throwing thing. I can't remember. I can't remember the last time the Dolphins on offense one of the guys jumped pre snap. You know how many times I mean over the last six years it was a six You would lose sixty yards on pre snaps. Yeah, yeah, and that's one of the things you're talked about, and we talked about so so it's you know, it's it's you. You you build

a you build a solid house on foundation. And I think that that you know, in the course of of one season, one offseason, and one full season, you know, the foundation is pretty well set here and and and it's set because part of the pillars out foundation are the guys that we're talking to that article talking about, Hey, you know this is a place to be but you know, but but there's but there's you know, there's rules there, there's rules, there's to do it. There's rules, and you

are held accountable to them. It's not like it's a bending type of ye issue where you're late, but you're really not late. And believe me, there there I've talked to guys have played in New England go, hey, look at you know it was. It's not it's not fun. It's not a lot of fun up there. But when you look back and you've got four Super Bowl rings win, it's it's you know, I've always said football, football is

not fun. Monday through Friday or Sunday. Sunday is the greatest day in the world, but every other day stinks, you know, it's it's it's tough. You gotta push yourself through it. It's a grind. But but those days are winning. Those those are what it's all, what it's all worth. And when you look back, when you played for a Paul Brown, you played for Tom Landry, you played for Chuck norm, when you played for Don Shuler, you played for those old school tough guys. Boy, everybody I talked

to you play for these guys. Guy, I hated the son of a bit. But then when you step back, when your career is over and the bag, well, we want a lot of games. We did a lot of things because of that guy in the way he went about it. And I just feel like Brian Flores is setting that foundation for for long term success with the with,

with the with, with the fact that he can. It sounds like he's got the gravitas now after one year to be able to demand that and have his players go hey, some guy comes in and goes, hey, can you believe this bullshit this guy wants me to do? Yeah, I can because I did it myself. If you want to be here, be my guests, go ahead. If you don't, we'll see it, and it's almost like bow to the point where those guys are gonna stick out, you know. And I think that they're smart enough as a staff

and organizationally as a front office. They're not gonna put a guy that they're questionable about in a position to come on this team because they don't want that guy in the locker room, they don't want that guy in the practice field. They certainly don't want them line them up on Sundays. So I think that that that foundation has been firmly set, and I think the traits and characteristics of the guys that ended up on this roster, those are the same types that they're looking for in

this offseason. Well, because they're their guys are gonna deliver the messae they're delivered the you know, the Vet, the Christian Wilkins then and the got Shaws and and and some of these other guys out there, Xavien and you know, and and and you know whoever the quarterback is with

Ryan next year or whoever. You know that they're gonna say, hey, this is why it is, so why it is you know self, when you get it, when you get to a team, when you get a football team, that's gonna police itself in that locker room and police itself with the things that the coaches preaching, and then you know you've made some strides. I agree, and I think that this team. The one thing I really liked about watching them up close this year was the fight that they gave.

You know that it was it didn't matter if they were up in a game or if they were down in a game. They played with the same level of intensity, and they played for sixty minutes. They didn't lay down. You know, those first two games, like we're talking about, when you go back, that seems like it was a different year. Doesn't seem like it was attached to this season, because that those two teams that went out and took the field were completely different than the last maybe half,

you know, half before half. The guys aren't on the you know, we're on the defense. It's it's crazy to think that way, but it's almost like you had the first I don't know, three games, three and a half games of the season was it was another season, and then you kind of meandered through a regular season with the rest of the fourteen or fifteen games you play. Yeah, yeah, but it's it look, I'm very real happy now. Now now you feel good about going into the offseason, feel

great about it. But but as soon you know, as soon as that game was over, and you go, man, what what what what a great way to end the season, going up to New England in a very very difficult place to play, where you've just you know, I'm just doing the postgame show last night on CBS four at the studio and going, god damn, man, I've been there twenty freaking times and and and sating that sat and that that that that that room, that interview room, just

like downtrodden, going god damn, we got her asses kicked again. I go, then I don't show up and gets to win up there and you get to sit there. I just wanted to walk in that room, going right, we kick their ass, don't worry both. I left something in

the bathroom for it, for you. It was awesome. But but as soon as that, as soon as that ended, my mind flipped over to Chris Greer and now you know, and it looks not I'm not I'm not saying that his job begins now because his job has been going on for for years and years and years and and and but this is his draft. This is his draft solely and uh. And he's got a bushel of picks, he's got a bushel of money. Uh, he can reshape this football team. But what I tell you, talk about

it being square on somebody's shoulders. Uh, No matter what happens, good batter, indifferent after this draft and what happens through the course of the next year or two, Um, well, a lot of that's gonna be squarely on his shoulders. I just think that the spotlight and the focus of that spotlight changes. You know, it was on this team, it was on this head coach, it was on this coaching staff, and Chris Greer and his staff were still doing their work stuff, but they just weren't didn't have

the spotlight directly on him. Now the season's over, you have your any meetings, you're you know, you talk about who you want, But that that shift goes now to the front office and it squarely focuses on him. So that big bright spotlight and he'll embrace it. But it's on him now and it's gonna be on him until the draft. You know, it's gonna be through uh Senior Bowl. It's gonna be through combine, it's gonna go to free agency, it's gonna go to the draft, and then it's gonna

go okay after that. Now that, now, what do we have? Where are we at? How are we better? And you know, I just like the way that they've gone about if if building this roster and changing it up as frequently as they did, define guys that fit, or any indication of how they're gonna go about the off season, I'm I'm on board. I'm good with it because they don't care about egos, they don't care about reputation, they don't care about anything. If you're a fit, you're a fit.

If you're not, you're not. It's not like maybe we can squeeze this guy in the culture and maybe he can we can change him. No, no, no, If you fit, you fit, here's the criteria. If you don't, we're not gonna consider you. And I think I don't know this to be fact, but that's the way my perception, and that's the way they're gonna go down this offseason. But I agree that that spotlight is now focused on the front office. Yeah, no, it's it. It is on the

front office, no doubt. But the you know the I'm sure between Brian and Chris and and everybody that's involved in that, the type of guy they're looking for, I think has been well defined this year. You know, that guy that's willing to work hard, that guy's willing to bust. Is that he may not be the may not be that prototypical guy you're standing out there, but you know, there there there's a there's a there's a there's a

there's a form for that guy. You know, you know, hard guy, hard worker, stay extra, get in the books, watch tapes, do all those things. That's the that's the criteria they're looking for, whether or not that you know, when the draft comes up, there's a first round or the fifth round and you pick some why are they picking that guy right now? That guy no one having had him wall you you're knowing to back their mind. It may work, it may not have been the back

of the mind. There's something that guy does that they feel fits this this football exactly exactly. And I think that's the way they go about it. And and I think when you take a look at the guys, and we've been around him enough, I mean, look at look at p Ryan comes in, he might know three plays. Okay, he bolts down the first round, he goes for nine yards. I'm going all right, I want to see a little bit more said, you know, I want to see him

run up in between the tackles. So you get guys in the same way with with you know, Needham's and guys like that in the back end and Heartage like or even uh, what was the nickel Wilts? He played eighteen different positions back there, but he's still playing, you know, he's still They're still trying to find a way they like get his skill set in the best opportunity, and

that's what they did with Row. So so I I like the out of the box and you know, this guy might not fit complete at this position, but let's not give up on him because he has a lot of the traits we're looking for. So so let's let's let's kind of extend this out a little bit to John talking about Chris Greer and and the draft process and everything. We know. We know the Dolphins got the fifth pick, uh in the in the draft and and then the other two picks will filter out as a

as a playoffs. What do they say around somewhere or somewhere around that because they've got the Pittsburgh pick, which I think is gonna be around nineteen or something, and they've got the Houston pick. I believe the other pick they got, yeah exactly, um is gonna be you know, if it's Houston pick, depending on how far they go, could be somewhere on there. But but they've got but they've got ammunition to to move around and do something some different things out there. But you know, you gotta

hit in these They gotta hit in these picks. But the one thing I got is gonna gonna get to Going back to one thing we talked about earlier, how much leeway does it give you give you having fits back now to where that quarterback is? You know, it was a pen ultimate thing. Yeah, I mean before the season quarterback quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, and it's still quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. But you know, did this give you another year if

that guy's not there? If you know, look, it's it's pretty clear Joe Burrows going, He's going to Cincinnati unless you drive no, no, no, everything, not even the Brown family construed so, but so beyond that, then then everyone else has a little yeah, you know, yeah, I think so you're kind of you're kind of looking at that formula quarterback and you know, and everything he's got. Yeah, but yeah, you know it hurts injury. I don't know if he can throw it as well, but yeah, yeah,

it's all that, yeah too of the injury. Yeah, he's got all that, but the injury. Yeah, there's all these all these little little red flags up there, you know that with with each of the one guy that has no red flags is Joe Burrow, and he's gonna be gone with that first pick. And if you think the

defensive ends going in the second, yeah I don't. I don't doubt that at all, you know, but but there are a lot of good players out there, and you've got a lot of positions to pick, and so the you know, unless you're a hundred percent sol let's say you stay at number five and you're a hundred percent soul, that that that that guy, that that quarterback that's still

lingering around. If you're still there, unless you're and you got fits kind of sitting in your back pocket, you know, maybe I take that that, Maybe I take that that linebacker, or that that pass rusher, or maybe that you know, maybe the kid Judy from uh from the wide out from Alabama's is still floating around that. You know, you you've got some options there that don't force you to try to And I think I heard you know these conversations.

We're not gonna force anybody into that pick. We're not gonna take a guy that we think is a is a twentieth round pick in the in the draft and and and take them the fifth because we have to, because we've we've got two of those in the back. Exactly, We've got some some of money in our pocket in terms of picks. And I think I think, quite frankly, if two of it was your guy and you he doesn't have to play right away. I think the answer comes back to your original question, is fits back on

this roster? Number one? Does he want to play another season? Um, you know with his family in Tampa, you know that, does he number one? Does he want to play? Number two? Is that? How does that factor into the equation about you know, moving your family or do whatever you have to do with your family, whatever that situation is. Selfishly with the Miami Dolphins love to have him back, I would say absolutely, you know, if we can do it tomorrow and get a confirmation on yeah, I'm gonna be

back for two thousand and twenty. Great that that's unbelievable because now that frees you up to take a guy at five at quarterback and if two is your guy, that's great. Um that doesn't have to play in terms of hey, we're not gonna rush you to play. We're gonna let you get healthy. If you're already healthy, great, now you go compete. Now you go learn how to play as an NFL quarterback. And I and who would

you like to tutor? And we got a guy that's played now going into his sixteenth year, that's played at a pretty high level last season and for for the most part his whole career. You know, there's been some ups and downs, but he's still here and he's a viable option to start. You don't have to, but we want you to compete. It's become you know that this

league has become so starved for quarterbacks. You know, you saw with Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray's number one pick, he's gonna start, He's gonna go in and look white Frank he played. You know, as as a season went on, You're starting to see some pretty good things out of Kyler Murray, and you wonder what he had been like for him and had he been able to do the Ma Homes thing and sit behind somebody for a couple of years and and then and then get his opportunity.

But but he's gotten better by playing. He's gotten better by playing, and I think that he's gotten better and I think his head coach has gotten better in in terms of how this offense is gonna fit in the National Football League with a guy that's not um maybe as dynamic of a runner as you see in Baltimore, but has different intangibles that gives him similar type skill sets that that you can then you can take advantage of.

They really put pressure on somebody else on a bad team. Yes, okay, so not as good as Baltimore, So so you're kind of not apples to apples, right, But but they got better, and I think they got better because they learned how to use his skill set. The head coach kind of call him plays for the first time in the National Football League, kind of got into his rhythm a little bit. So I think that all worked out pretty The guy that the guy that really intrigues me in this whole

quarterback thing, and look, I'm a Burrow. So I mean that guy just the game he had the other day was just I mean, I don't know which one he didn't have this right every time you look at and

you just walked away. I remember seeing when we were in Indianapolis and that was the night after that was the day after the Alabama l s U game, and I'm walking back into the UH into the locker room for something before the game and Mr Ross and Danny and a bunch of guys coming with Chris Greer all walking in and so we're walking, Hey, how you guys doing it? And go, hey, yeah, I got how'd you like the game last night? He goes, I love the game? He said, Mrs love the game? Was we love those

quarterbacks too? You know? He goes, that guy Burrow looks pretty good. But you know, so there there's you know, everyone's got the interest, everyone's got there the of those guys, but um, it's it's it's the guy that the guy

that that just sticks out in my mind. I hated to see two of her get hurt because that that to me, you know, I just I'm so leery of seeing guys come in here that you draft high and they come in and they're hurt, and in your two weeks into training camp, you're looking, well, where's our new quot. Oh he's over there on the stationary body. You know that that that that just but that that just that

that that that concerns me. But Jalen Hurts is a guy that you know, he's a little Tim Tebow from the standpoint of maybe he's not the most orthodox guy out there, but he's also Tim Tebow because all he does is win games. You can say what you want

to is not the most accurate guy. You know, maybe not the best run or not, But god damn when the guys playing in the highest level that the college football can offer, two of the best programs in the country, playing against some of the best programs in the country, and all the guys done is win football games, held his hot head up high, done what's asked of him, gotten better every year, and boy, it just you know, he's one of those guys you wanted to think, you know,

it's for whatever, somehow, some way, I would like to have that guy on my team, right you know, you want to have more of that type of player on your team. And I think that's where the Miami Dolphins are going with this roster. I don't know, but but you kind of put a big question mark over the quarterbacks because after Joe Burrow, like he said, we're not

sure what flavor is gonna fit the Miami Dolphins. And and you don't know, you know, how many hands are gonna go up when you, you know, say a name and who are we on board with? Right? Because you're not sure. You're just not sure. There's so many there's so many things out there you can't control in terms of where you're gonna select, who you're gonna pick, who's gonna be there. So let me ask you this, John, beyond beyond. Let's let's go beyond this year. Let's just

move to next year. And the Trevor Lawrence in the fields and field from You've seen enough of those, enough of those two guys to say their number one and number two coming out and absolutely and and you know as much as you can say sure fires, you believe both those guys are those guys. When you go through a season of college football and you throw it as much as those guys do, and you throw forty touchdowns and only one interception, and then you know you you

throw one against Clemson at the end. I don't know if it was a busted route guy changed up on you. But for Fields to do that in a season and come in fourth in the Heisman voting, are you are you kidding me? Right? So now on the other side, you got Trevor Lawrence. Ever, this guy is not very good this year. He's having a down year, he's having a bad year. They only beat in North Carolina by a point, and then all of a sudden, he goes

on run. It doesn't throw a pick for like, I don't know, eight games in a row or something like that, and he runs of football at six six like a a train, you know, against a really good defense in Ohio State. Those guys are sure, those guys unquestionably, you know, we were talking about the butts on some of the guys in terms of yeah, he has this, but those guys, I'm not sure. I think, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see over there this year and next year.

The because you know, John, we're we're seeing we're also kind of in that in that in the league wide picture of you know, all these guys are you know, Philip Rivers now question what's gonna happen with him. He's in the seventeenth year. You look at Tom Brady, he's in his seventeenth or eighteenth year. Ben Roethlisberger got the shoulder,

he's in sixty. All these guys are at the twilight of their care Drew Brees, there's all those guys that have been those because nowadays, going going back to probably before Danny, but right around that time is when if you became a franchise quarterback, you're gonna play fifteen to seventeen years, right, That's that's kind of the number. Now when you go back look at all these guys now

and they're all their fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years. But that also leads to this whole new influx of young quarterbacks coming into the league that are stepping up and and and and stepping up behind these guys that that are that are either getting hurt like Roethlisberger, your Mason Rudolph gets the opportunity to to show off a little bit, and and Minnesou the guy up in uh Jacksonville, or these young guys are getting opportunities to get out there

that are gonna be the next tier, the next tiers of uh you know, uh lock now and the kidding, kidding Jones up in uh with the Giants. You're seeing some stuff out of Daniel Jones. And so this whole, this whole quarterback landscape over the next three or four years is going to completely change. And it's who's gonna have that guy that's gonna be there for the next

seventeen years. It's gonna be the Russell Wilson's and the Patrick Mahomes are gonna be the veteran guys and and all these other guys that are coming in are trying to be that guy. Yeah, so that'll be It is gonna be interesting. And that's why it's it's so critical for the Miami Dolphins to make the right choice and not just to make a choice um in this year's draft just because you feel like you have to, you know,

I mean, there you want to take a quarterback. I don't think there's any question they're gonna take a quarterback. It just where are they going to take it if it's not the guy they want at five? And maybe they go back and get another you know, I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of the you know what they there's a lot of things you can do, a

lot of things you can do. I mean, you know when you when you look at priorities on this team, you know, quarterback is certainly a priority, but pass rushers asked, rush is to me that that defensive van outside linebacker, that that disruptive pass rusher. To me, this as important as that quarterback in there. And you know what, that that offensive tackle or that offensive guard or that center is just as important. And that's why you're you're so

happy the Miami Dolphins. They have three number ones. Two number two is two. Number three's they're gonna get. They're gonna get a quarterback, they're gonna get a pass rusher,

they're gonna get an offensive lineman or two. And now you've got three more picks and you've got you've got free agency to go out and find some of those guys that you know that are that are that are those you know that that that guy that's maybe your third pass rusher, or maybe that guy that's that's that offensive guard that that really fits in for you, that's got three or four year four more years left in him. You know, yeah. I mean, I always got lineman. Alabama

has some great lineman there. There's some good offensive lineman out there. I just think you're you're you're come away with the first round. You're gonna get a quarterback, You're gonna get a pass rusher, and then you're gonna probably get an offensive lineman. And I think, and I wouldn't rule out, they're gonna get some type of running back somewhere in those first you know, six to eight picks, because there's a lot of good ones out there, and

you can stockpile another young guy in here. Yeah. It's funny how you you know, we came into this year and you're looking at the running back situation. You're going, hey, you're looking pretty good here with Kenyan Drake. Uh, you know, you got klin Blage, you got Miles Gasking, the draft choice, you got this day, You're feeling pretty good. And and then you had um get from you am I forget

help quickly? Forget Oh Mark Mark Walton's were pretty stout in that, and that all of a sudden, that running back room became completely depleted, right And and I don't think there's anybody in that room other than maybe the young guys. Look, I gotta think klein Blage is probably you know, his stock is is not there. Not too bullish on his stock right now after what what they saw from him this year. But who knows what happens during the offseason and moving forward. But you know, that's

another room that needs to be reloaded. Yeah, there's a lot of change. It's still gonna occur. I mean, we we thought we had seen probably as much change on a roster that we would ever see. Um, I think that this is gonna be this This offseason is gonna be unbelievable in terms of getting an influx of new players, an influx of of draft choices and free agency and undrafted guys. It's gonna be uh, highly competitive to be a member of the Miami Dolphins. It's gonna be It's well,

it's gonna be much like this year. It's gonna be uh, you know, training camps. They're gonna be a lot of guys coming through this building over the next hand full of years. And like I said that, you know that they've talked about people talking about how we're gonna we're always gonna turn the bottom of that roster, try to

find that one guy. And but I don't think I've ever seen a team and I've seen I've seen this team turn that roster a lot towards the end of the season, but from week one to week seventeen, well, I don't know if I've seen that revolving door spin in the way it's it's it's fun. And and they found some guys that did look like there's some some some you know, some opportunity to be some pretty decent players.

I think so. And you have to credit, you know, the way that the front office has worked with the coaching staff and the way that they've gotten in their guys in terms of the skill set they're looking for. And it's tough to dependcil in guys, like you said earlier in this podcast about getting a guy and signing him on Tuesday, goes out to practice on Wednesday and is playing, is starting, not just playing on special teams, He's starting and playing on special teams on that Sunday.

It was unbelievable at the defensive back position. You have to credit the guys on the staff that got them ready and and the guys in the front office that identified, you know, the scouts that are out there kind of pounding the payment in terms of getting the right guys on the roster. It's a it's a complete, uh you know,

collaboration of the thought. I wonder what the number of players that played on this team from week one until week seventeen, the number of players that started for this football team that had practiced less than four practices and with this team and started and started. If I had to take the over underbolt, I think i'd have six. Usual. Look, I can think of the three. There were three offensive alignment.

There were three d that the week one that we're here midwek So there's six right there, six right there right so there's probably the probably maybe double digits there, you know guys that did who's it? You know? So I can't even name some of them, say three weeks ago, okay, he's been around. Yeah, I can't keep tracking. I think two or three weeks. It wasn't very long. I was, I'm I'm number watching yesterday, I'm watching. I'm like, okay,

who's who's who's back in the secondary? Now? Who's this guy? Who's that guy? Who's that guy? Who was? It was pretty crazy, but hey, we got uh speaking of defensive back. We've got Eric Row coming in to join us. We're gonna sit tight and wait for Eric to stop buy and uh and see what he's got to say. I joined out by Eric Row and Eric what a way to wrap up the season? I go up to New

England and uh and take down New England. There's been a long time since his office had one up there, and uh, but it had to feel good for you, Oh my gosh, you know, probably one of the best fell and something just because you know that the type of game it was, uh, you know, us finishing season strong, and I mean I'd never realized, you know, Dolphins haven't won up there and you know a long time and probably so you can cross that off the box too. Well,

you're the good thing. You have to pick six for a touchdown off Tom Brady and then and that's the I think that's the first. That's the first pick six the Dolphins that Tom Brady's ever thrown against the Miami Dolphins. So another another first. All right, yeah, you can check it out the box too. I mean I didn't obviously, I never realized that, but should it help the team win? How about you? You were you were you played a

new women. You spent time there, so you know what that cultures like up there, and for going into a game on week seventeen, that I really had a lot for them to to you know, the home field advantage and you know how huge advantages once you get to the playoffs, having to stay home, getting to buy a week, getting a chance to stay home, only to have it, uh, you know, have a kind of stuff down their throat

by you guys. Um it says a lot about the way you played and make them look more like a human football team than we've seen in the past, certainly at this time of the year. Yeah, we just I mean obviously the coding staff came from there. I mean I came from there. I kind of know obviously be on the other side, I kind of know what it takes, you know, to win it. It's not easy, you know, to beat them. I know. One of the thing is too we have we needed to score on defense our

special teams, you know. Yeah, that's yeah, every time at least I remember losing, it's always like a defense of our special team score. So I mean that and then obviously putting pressure on you know, the often. But I mean that's you know that's every opponent, but just uh, you know, coming out with that our mindset like, hey, you know, we want to finish this, you know, team strong. We know what's on the line for them, even though we have nothing to play for. You know, we're playing

for pride and and shoot, we got it done. You know, there's not very many people, certainly the beginning of the season and nationally there was hardly anybody to give you any any credit as a football team. Been a lot of changes, a lot of guys coming in. That secondary has been evolving door guys coming in, and guys come in and and and and maybe struggle a little bit,

but eventually they get better along the way. Well, what is it about your group in the secondary that's been able to have so many guys come through there and still continue to play at a better level. It seems like each and every week that you played it really it just uh me, really, me and Jamal because we're you know, the guy has been here since O t A. Uh, you know, a new guy come in. You know, we you know, obviously you know, the studying to playbook grow fast.

But on the field, you know, I'm telling them, hey, you know, do this do this. Obviously they know how to play the position, but getting in tune with the defense and all the checks that we have to make and communication. You know, me and Jamad I think, you know, we're trying to take you know, trying to take over that role of you know, hey, this is a situation. You know, make sure you do this, you know, blah

blah blah blah blah. So uh because I mean it's it's kind of ready to have turned over, just like that guy you through the whole season, but you know just how to make it work. It's been like that pretty much on most of the positions on this football team. Defensive end, you have guys come and go. The offensive line has been changing around a lot. Running backs has

been a whole new group of people. With all the changes that have going on, how do you attribute the fact too, with all those changes going on from week one till the end of the season, how has this team been able to just get better and better every week and compete? You know, early on those games that look like, oh man, it's gonna be a long season. Week one, a week two, you know, just you know, Ravens come in and run free, and then new England forty three. Nothing to go, Man, this would be a

long sea. But from that point on, this team continually got better and more competitive each and every week. And it says a lot for the players on the roster, also says a lot for the staff and what they've been able to do to get you guys ready, even guys that have come in on short order and midweek

and end up starting, you know, on that Sunday. Yeah, I mean I think kind of attribute to you know, kind of like the core of us you know that were you know together and you know the spring and training camp I noticed, you know, wasn't too many of us, but you know the court that were together that you know, new guy comes in, no matter what position, Hey, we're gonna get him up to speed. I mean, we're all

we're all competitive. We're still trying to win, you know, even though you know, and we were like oh and seven you know, first seven games and a couple of blowout losses. But I mean we see that when we did things right and when everyone was you know, playing together, like you know, we were rolling things, We're working, we're making three and outs, offensive scoring, special teams, was you know, doing the thing Uh, so you know we all seen that, so it was tough. You know, new guy comes in, Hey,

we gotta give him up to speed. But you know we just knew we we do got something special. Yeah, it's uh, it's it's pretty remarkable. What's what's going on here? And uh, you know there's been this this looming thing of the draft and you know, you know who's gonna come here and who's gonna come there. Um, But but for for you guys to be able to put that aside and go out and you know, everyone can say how we're going out to win every game. You know,

some guys do when some guys don't. But this football team, you know, you win five games. But I don't know, it's just it's it's hard to put your finger on what's the specific thing that allowed you guys to kind of be consistent with the inconsistencies that were going on within the building, you know, to to to play that way. It's it's to me, it's one of the more remarkable things I've seen for for a team that from a

national standpoint, guys know they won't win one game. If they win one game, that'd be a miracle and and quite frankly, you were in a situation this team could have won six maybe seven games the way you played, you have those opportunities were there, Yeah, I mean, yeah, we're there was definitely games that you know, we all know that we kind of left out there, you know, I know, the Redskins, you know, the Giants, the Jets. I mean, there's you know, multiple games we were in it.

I mean even even in the the beginning of the year, we're against the Pages a third quarter it was only thirteen the three we're playing good. I mean, then we just kind of fell apart. So and we know that,

you know, a lot of games we were in. And then even with the turnover, you know, we all still believe, like, hey, we're trying to win, like you know what, you know, we know, we know what's We're not really worried about what's you know, what's going on outside the locker room, like you know, oh, we should just tank and you know, get the one one spot or whatever. You don't worry about that. We're like, hey, we still got a job to do. What you know, we want to play fo

we're trying to win. Speak speak a little bit about the way and then I'll give yourself for a good example, this this this football team has. Boy, it's just struggled with tight ends on both sides of the football over the last decade or so. I haven't really found that tight end that you know, that that can that's that there's become that prototypical tight end now running the scene, you know, taking you know, taking up space in the middle of the field, become a productive receiver for it.

And on the flip side, someone that can cover tight ends and keep them in check. Seemed to have found a tight end in in in Mike Gasecki, that guy getting down the field and all of a sudden, seems like you've been the guy that's been the tight end whisper on defense where you've you've kind of found a spot in this defense where we're you know, being a guy that that that covers some of these tight ends

become a big responsibility for you. Yeah, since that change, I know, we had some injuries and they were like, hey, you know, we gonna you know, you know, needs you to play. I think at first it was like a little bit of corner, a little bit of safety. And I mean that I mean, obviously you know I can handle it, but and then once I guess the coaches saw something and you know, they started put me on tight ends. And obviously coming from receivers, it's it's you know,

it's easier to cover out. I mean no, no, just right. But you know they're different. Yeah, yeah, they're not as you know, not as quick, not as fast. I can you know, read their body language, you know, faster than the receiver you know would be. So you know they put me out there and and everything like you're really slowed down, you know, you know after you know, especially studying around so and I I just kind of just

embraced the role. Is that? Do you see that? And similar as what you saw in New England where they find guys, find what they can do, find what they really do well and then give them that niche and that's your that's your deal. Yeah, yeah, because I know and you know obviously the coltons that came to me.

So it's you know, first four games and five, you know, people trying to figure out, you know, kind of what role they'll have and you know defense, you know, offense, whatever, and then kind of by mid October November, you know your role is yeah set and so you know, just like it happened like I think the first four games I was a corner and they put me in safety then like room that was my role, like cover tight ends and you know, kind of fill the run and

you know when you can. How do you feel about your your year here so far and and and everything you've been through in the growth and what maybe maybe just from an inside the locker room feel of what you think this organization and this team can be moving forward with. You know, there's gonna be a lot of turnover, it always is in in every team in the National Football League, and some guys are gonna come, some guys are gonna go. And I think it's about is about

the average on on most football teams. You know there's gonna be a turn over there. But it seems like there's a base that understands what this staff is trying to do, that's bought into it. That kind of self police. Is that locker room, like you said, getting your guys ready to play, beyond going maybe beyond what's going on with with the coaches, kind of doing your own thing, trying to get guys ready. Do you see that moving forward in a positive way with this this core of

this group here. Oh, I mean yeah, definitely. Uh, just you know, from at least from a defensive standpoint, you know, me in the back end, you got like Rick Kwon and Baker and the linebackers and like gotch Ow and you know d Line and you know they're really about the year. You know, just like I said, you know, a new guy comes in and we're boom boom boom. I we you know, we gotta get this stuff done.

So moving on the future when we get you know, I'm pretty positive you know next year won't be you gonna turnover like yeah, and so next year when we you know, get a group of guys and you know, from O t A to training camp and you know we all stick together. I mean, shoot, if you saw what we did with turnover, and I think it'll be a lot better next year. So what do So what

do you do now you know the season's over. You kind of come in exit interviews, get that all all done in a way, What's what's on your mind over the next month? What did you get away and just kind of try to refresh yourself or what goes through your mind over this next next month or so? Oh yeah, yeah, getting away like after the last game and shut it down mentally, like get that take that mental break, physical break. Um,

just me and a wife. It's gonna be relaxing. We're gonna go back to Texas, relaxed with see some family, do a little traveling, you know, just have a little fun and shoot, you know it all ran back. Just a long year for you guys. You know, he because you come in when you come back in April and start conditioning, and then you got O T s and you're going to mini camps and then it's just it's from then it's like pedal of the medal. You get that a few weeks off in in in July and

then it's uh and then it's full speed head. So it's a it's a it's a long year when when you look and start to finish for you guys, yeah, and even in July, it's it's not really like you know, vacation vacation. It's like, okay, maybe I'll take a you know, maybe a couple of weeks, but then I gotta get right b training because training camp, get the ground running. Yeah, you got hit. Yeah, you don't want to be behind

the training camp. Like so so it's a long it's a long season, so you know, January February, you know, March, you know it's time to get away because shoot another you know what is it like? Eight months? Seven months? Right back at it. Eric, It's been great watching you. It's been great watching you progress here and find a

little niche on this on this defense. And but it's just been fun watching this football team, you know, go through what they've gone through and with all the detractors and coming in and be as competitive as you were and winning football games and uh and knocking off New England up in New England, which is a you know, something this franchise has been trying to do for for years and years to get it done. Congratulations to you.

Congratulations all the guys in this football team did a lot of things, a lot of positive things, and I think nobody expected out of this group. And I think each and every one of you guys can be be pretty proud of that. Oh yeah, yeah, no, we're all super proud, like just the way especially the way the season closed out, you know, how how strong you know we finished even with that, you know, everything that's went on this year, I mean we're all shoot and that

guy lo, we are you talking about? You know, ready for now? You're ready to start right room. Yeah, we can wait a little time for that. Yeah, we get a little a little time of that though. But that's gonna do it for the honorble. For today, I want to thank Eric Row for stopping by for John Kenjemmy, I'm Kim Bokamper. That's gonna do it. We'll catch you next week. Eric, have a good offseason, man, appreciate it. All right, thank you, all right,