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The Audible Ep. 82 | Evan Boehm

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It's the bye week and Kim and John look back at the first four weeks of the season. Then offensive lineman Evan Boehm swings by the studio to discuss Coach Dave DeGuglielmo, importance of chemistry on the offensive linemen and more (28:02).

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All right, welcome to another edition of the Audible John kN Jemmy Kimbo camera, same castic characters were showing up. Yeah, we're showing up. We're gonna show up each and every week throughout the course of the season. And you know it, you know, our our our audible day is starting to feel like Groundhog Day a little bit, right, you know, you're looking at your notes too. Pretty good in the first half half a whole different story. And that was

the story again this week. But and we talked about, you know, incremental growth and this and that, and really I think that's what we have to look forward to with this football team. Um and you really felt good, you know in the first half because you saw the offense start moving the ball down the field. You know, defense made it tough on on on the Chargers and we're able to make them work to put points on

the board. And so you know, I was I was a It was a great concern to me going into that football game, understanding that when I first found out that, um uh, that we were gonna have j Davis and I'm thinking Isaiah Prince gets his first start, and then Jamacus Webb and then then then web has to flip over the left side. You put Isaiah and on the

right side. And I'm looking Joey Boza and I'm looking at Melvin Ingram, and I'm going both of them have one sack through four games or three games, and they're gonna want to get healthy. Be like going to Bonanza exactly, you know, going up all you can eat, Yes, exactly right. Yeah, it was like smorg going in there. I think I saw Joey Bosa salivating as he was going through pregame

warm up. But but I gotta tell you that offensive line, I thought they played extremely extreme and and you know what, look there, there's no question they you know, they stacked it up. You know, they multiple tight ends in the game, got help for everybody. Help Like if you got if that's if that's the if that's the part of the game they're off their their their pressure again, well then then count you counteracted with multiple tight ends in the game,

somewhat chipping. All these types in there where helping, and it worked out well for him. I thought. I think Bosey had a couple of rushes that affected Rosen in a big way, But other than that, I think they pretty held that pass rush in pretty good check. I thought they did a really good job of controlling the line of scrimmage because we saw the running game make

an appearance. We saw Kenyan Drake be able to not get contact behind the line of scrimmage and if he had a chance of that, at least he had room to jump cut, be able to use that vision and that elusiveness to get away and get productive yards. We saw Balage do the same thing. Both guys had big runs early in the game called back uh you know due to penalties. One was a holding, one was a legal formation. I believe that was a kind of a bigger play in the running game. Uh So I like

what I saw out of the young guys. And then movement around the off some line you talk about web going from you know, one side of the offensive line to the other, and then you have prints come in at right tackle. Uh you had some flux at the guard position. You had some you know, guys moving in and out. But I think Deeter played well again, so there's a lot of growth coming from the from the

young guys. I think when you look in the interior that line there, you know, you like you said, you have babe moving in there and guys coming in and out. But but watching the game last week, I thought there was good movement or was in the center between the guards.

In the center, you get a lot of good moving line of scrimmage and some of those some of those blocks where the blocks will allow these guys to to get some running room, to pick up some yards and to see our running game come alive a little bit in that foot Well, you need that. I mean, you can't put it solely on Josh Rosen. If he's gonna be your starting quarterback from here on out and he's

gonna take the range, he needs a running game. All quarterbacks really you'd like to, you know, turn around and run a draw, run a screen some semblance of a long handoff, to take some pressure off the pocket, to take some pressure off of the past protectors. Because those guys are going up against quite frankly, could be the best athletes of all twenty two that are out there. Those defensive ends, those linebackers, they can run like wide receivers.

Some of them they can run like running backs. They have the strength of of alignment, and they're they're trained, uh to go to meet at a point and that's where the quarterbacks trying to set up and do business.

So I thought they did a pretty good job, if not the best job of the year in terms of four games, being able to hold up at least through two and a half to three quarters uh of being able until the Dolphins were predictable at the end of that game where they're throwing it and throwing it and throwing it so much. Much like the previous couple of games,

missed opportunities played played big in this. I think the two miss field goals, you know, put you in a situation where if you make those two make kick those two field goals, you know you had a fourth and sixth stop on them to get the ball turned over on downs, which was big for you short field there you missed the field goal all and then you miss another field goal as it goes, and those are opportunities to go and you could you get this team again,

like we talked about Dallas, you know that they were in a position where they could have gone in into halftime, down wide or down one. You know, if you're able to punch one in or kick a field goal, you know, it's just but those are but those are the issues. Those those are those missed opportunities that you know, there weren't as many drop balls as there were as we've seen in the last two games, but there were significant draws.

It led to a fifty plus yard attempt where you could have had a forty five or forty three yard or or maybe you continue on that drive. You know, there's no same pressing Williams doesn't catch the ball, break a tackle and getting ten or fifteen yards. Now the Dolphins are in scoring position for six instead of the you know the try at three. Yeah, Blage has one, they got it, looks open for him and he leaves

the ball in the ground. So again less less missed ball, less miscatches, but still too critical, too many, too many for a football team like this where look, it's clear that they're an undermanned football team. Every team they're gonna play against this year, they're gonna be undermanned place. And if you're that team and you want to win games, you just you can't have those errors. Well, the margin

of error and the margin of the magnify everything. Yeah, you go into games knowing that we have to play damn near perfect. We we can't beat ourselves. Number One you can't come away with nine, ten eleven penalties what they haven't done. I'm not saying they've done that on a consistent basis, but when you add the drops, when you add the miss tackles, when you add the missed assignments up front, and you cut guys loose, those all

add up into mistakes that you're trying to prevent. And I think that the Dolphins did a pretty good job

from week one now to week four. Hasn't shown up on the scoreboard, hasn't shown up in the wind column, but they're they're trending in a direction where you can say, Okay, we might be undermanned, but this team is learning how to play together, learning how you know, the guy next to him does something, uh that that will help me out as a guard, or help me out as an offensive tackle, or you know, the game upfront that cuts Charlton loose and he gets another sack, and maybe that

that helps in week six, now, when you play at home against the Washington Redskins, you're getting used to guys playing next to you, so you're hoping that the level of consistency and execution start to marry. The guys that are out there you know, start to you know, feed off of each other. Where where teams start to come together.

You know there there's a couple of things. One of the things that that John just it sticks out in my mind is is because you're looking at you're looking at and you're seeing some you know, some guys are playing better, Preston Williams better game. Maybe you know it's maybe he's he's he's kind of feeling his way out getting You're seeing other things. Some of those offensive lineman they're getting stuck in there with short time, with little

notice or doing some good things. But the one thing that has been consistent with this football team that they've got to find some solution to or it's really gonna be a long sea, and they gotta find some way to put pressure on a quarterback. They have not put pressure on any quarterback in any of these four games. And I mean you watch, look we saw Dak last week just standing back there and just waiting and waiting,

patting the ball, waiting for Lamar. In game one, I mean he had five, six, seven seconds at some point. And then you look at this game and I don't think Philip Rivers, you know, you had one sack. Carl Charlton got another sack. But other than that, I I don't recall a time where he was harassed at all. He wasn't flustered, he wasn't harassed, he wasn't hurried, and he knew that every ball didn't have to be a

line line drive shots. He threw some really good touch passes over the under coverage of the linebacker and in front of the safety coverage, and it looked, quite frankly, it looked like a seven on seven performance. And guy was coming back and he was just kind of picking and choosing. It wasn't one guy. One guy had five catches, another guy at five, the running back had four or five. You know, It's just it was a dinking duck. And if he needed nineteen, he got twenty. If he needed eleven,

he got thirteen. You know. It was one of those games where Philip Rivers was just on his game and he didn't have to really work at it. All he had to do was keep his two feet underneath them, kind of get guys going with his eyes, and then trust his receivers that they were gonna win one on one matchups when they had him, and he he just you know, really picked the dolphin secondary part, the thing that the pressure and I just all day you said, I'm just, I'm just you gotta find it. You gotta

find it somehow. You gotta fight for guys, gotta get off blocks, guys gotta you, guys gotta find a way. They gotta get hungry and want to get it because especially when you it's exacerbated in this first month because of the quarterbacks. Again, every one of those quarterbacks knows their offense like the back of their hand, knows where the mismatches are, know where they want to go. And certainly in the case of of of of Brady and Philip, Rivers and and and Zach are act probably in the

same mode. Maybe not quite because he hasn't just because he hasn't played. As long as those guys, those guys get the line of scrims, they probably know where they

want to. They probably know exactly where they want to go to before that ball snap, you can see the mismatch, see this guy, They know how this guy plays it plays a loose a little bit of this that I'm going And so so if if you can't get pressure and you've got cornerbacks that are that astute, and they're they're that good, and including Lamar, including Dak Prescott, boy, it makes it near impossible to to to slow down

an offense for sixty minutes of a game. You can't physically cover that long in the defensive secondary if you if you're giving you know, if you're not really affecting the pocket the timing of the ball coming out of the pocket, which the Dolphins haven't done. They haven't been able to hurry or harass or rush a throw. And when in the times that they do, it might be you know, on a second down opportunity where they come

right back on third down and make a play. I mean, how many times have we seen the Miami Dolphins defense being a really positive situation second in twenty one, first and twenty and all of a sudden, you know, Tom Brady stays on the field, Philip Rivers stays on the field, Dak Prescott keeps his offense on the field, Lamark Jackson finds a touchdown. You know, those are the situations where you're thinking, as a defense and we've got we've got to get off the field in a three and out

here because you're you're the numbers favor you. You can't allow three straight completions when you know a team is gonna throw a three straight times in the first twenty situation. Talk about earlier you get back, they get back up twice seven yard line, but seven yard line they go, they get a big third down and they get the first down, but there's a penalty, take them right back and they come right back, do it again, and do it again. To you, you just can't. You can't allow

those quarterbacks at that time. I mean, that's gotta be the time when, man, if you're those defensive ends, man, you you you're up on your toes, you got you know, your goot white knuckles because you're you're coming after these guys. And that's where you should be. That's where you enjoy playing because you got him where you want them, instead of being in a situation where you get you get stalemated again. Guy stands back there, picks and chooses and and you and you you pick up the first down,

which which just kind of deflates that he does. Well, it's not only the defense. It rolls over. It gets contagious, you know, And and how about the job. I mean, I didn't know what type of back Eckler was before the game. But uh, you know, Melman Gordon could could have stayed out another month, two months, I mean until somebody got hurt. Because this guy, I don't I don't know how you how you get him out out of

the lineup? Well, you know, and then they have said that the coach and their coach said he when when he's ready, he's there our guy. But boy, after the game of you because he look, he's not tough runner, he's got good he's got good catch and you could catch the ball, and well you look at a guy like that, and you know, if if if, if I'm if I'm the Los Angeles Chargers, I'm looking, hey, we got our guy, we got our number one guy come back. How can we get these two guys in the field?

I know it, I know it. Hey, now that you say l A Chargers, how about the red ref yesterday was brutal? He kept saying, San Diego, I think I said it all. I'm not saying that. I'm I'm I'm not guilty of it, but I just thought it was funny that could make fun of somebody else and said, because I said it all pre game, I'm going on San Diego, and I'm going going just call them chargers, John, don't don't make it complicated. And the first time that the p A system comes on with the lead official egos,

San Diego will not be charged at time. It's hard not to look at those funiforms, I know, especially the throwback, especially exactly the powder blues, no doubt about it. So yeah, that was but but but you know, I say that, but I still call the the I still called the Cult of Baltimore, I know, And so I'm I'm pretty pretty far, pretty bad and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, it was, Uh, it's you know, it's just

it's it's tough. We're gonna get a chance to talk to Evan bam here a little bit, a guy that really is is coming and you know, you had a good game, and you know, and and you got some experience behind him, and it was nice to have him over by over with Isaiah, that's right. I think it helped Isaiah to have Beam over there. Guys had some experience, has been in games and and and they helped. They they both double teamed on Joey and they did a

handful of times. So we'll kind of talk to them, but um, not nice to see him get in and do it. And and you know, you'd like to see this offensive line get a chance to be the five guys for forget about three weeks straight, give two weeks straight. I'm the same five guys in the same positions on the field. I don't know if there's any I don't know if I've ever been in a situation where I've seen so many such a revolving door on a position

that is so demanding of continuity and communication. Uh, just be like, you know who's in there, and who's the guy in there? You know? The good thing? The good thing about it is, you know you're on a team

that has a lot of youth. You're you're on a team that needs to find out who are the guys that are gonna be able to stick when when the you know, the calendar turns and it's all of a sudden it's the two thousand and twenty season and you're looking around and saying, oh, who's gonna be a right tackle? You know, is Jesse Davis a better guard than he is a tackle? Uh? You know, where where do the guys plug and play the best? And I think you're getting. You got a nice chance to see Isaiah Prince, who

was a draft choice. You've got a really good chance to see Webb play both tackle positions over the last couple of weeks. And then you got to see some of the guys like like Baying with experience in the league come in and filling to do a pretty good job.

You see the growth of Deader at left guard. You feel like, you know what, he's gonna pretty much cement himself in there, and if he if he can keep playing at the level and keep improving on a weekly basis, you're gonna have a guy in there for for a number of years. Yeah. Right, I mean the way he's going away, he's trending right now and everything that he's shown kicking out to the left tackle in the in the spur of moment in Dallas, and a very versatility

going out there and play. You're really that. You know, they hit a home run with the kid in the third round wherever they got him. But uh and and you're starting to see you know, Isaiah Isaiah Prince. But I tell you what I'm I would have hate to be in Isaiah Prince during training camp because Google's got you know, he got on pretty good. Showed him a lot of tough love out there, you know, and some

of it wasn't so much love. But and you know, and then you see him in the game and you're thinking, oh, Jesus, could be a disaster, and the guy holds up pretty well. And so, you know, sometimes you need to find something. You know, there are guys that are practice guys and the guys are gamers. You know, maybe maybe he's a gamer, maybe he plays better in game situations he does in practice.

But you got to see it yesterday. You got to see it against uh probably with one of the best pass rushers certainly in the in the National Football League. Un Fortunately Melvin Ingram on the other side got hurt handstring or something and so but but still, Joey Bose is coming on both sides of the boat, right side, left side. He's switching back and forth, and for the most part, the guys did a pretty good job against him.

And and so to see guys like that, like Isaiah getting his first start, I guess a guy like that and and and and you know, certainly there's plays that he would want back to do better. But he had to feel pretty good when you look at the overall

picture of what he was able to do. I think so and not knowing, you know, the uncertainty of coming in on a on a Tuesday and not knowing if you're gonna get your number called to start, And then all of a sudden that Wednesday at practice, you're getting more reps and you're moving around, you know what, you're thinking, well, maybe I get a chance, maybe you know, to play. And then your Thursday comes along, you're you're still getting some reps and you're saying, well, you know, no one's

made a decision yet. You know, I gotta gotta stay ready, And all of a sudden, you know it's game day and and Jesse's not gonna go, and and he's the guy that gets to call up and he played quite well, and I'm I was just thinking, you know, watching Boza and Prince interact during a TV time out, if you know maybe that when he was a freshman and Joelia was a senior, that he was that Scout team tackle or you know, that Scout team player that had to go up against him because they gave each other a

little hug, and you can tell him going back and forth if maybe he had a little bit of confidence in terms of you know, I know this guy. You know, I've I've had his best when I wasn't my best, and now I feel like I'm a better player. Maybe he gained a I don't know, mental mental edge or mental confidence, and if that happened, I was just kind of, you know, going through the memory banks and see if

that might have happened. But I was proud of the way he played as a as a as a guy that watched him in in the training camp and a guy watched him in preseason. I was a little skeptical of saying, is this guy doesn't does football mean a lot to this guy? Or is he is he? Is he one of those guys that can't get yelled at because he goes into a shell. And if that's the case, he's on the wrong team and he's playing the wrong position. But I got to see him, and I got more confidence.

The more he played, the more I think, ISAI He's gonna be good? You know, I think he's okay. You know, he looked big, he didn't look out of place, he didn't get out of out of position. You look at him, John and and to me. He looks like a prototypical tackle. He's tall, he's got long arms, he's not a fat guy. He's athletic, he can move, he can do a lot of things. And so I think maybe he just needs to, you know, kind of kind of get like his getting

his feet. But yeah, I I was. I was very impressed with him yesterday and what he did from a standpoint of looking forward, Hey, can he be a guy that you stick out there and you got him over there for six, seven, eight, nine years? Is that going to be the worst If that's his worst performance, like the first one out of the gate, you're going home. Man,

anything can happened. If that's gonna be one of his lower or or bottom performances, that this guy is looking better for him, you know that the upside is looking much better. Friday a prince for me anyway, As a as an evaluators, you're you're just kind of watching him grow from you know, maybe July to now. You go, Wow, this guy's got more of a chance than I thought. No, No day during training when we're in Tampa, I'm going on, I don't know if this guy's even gonna I don't

know if you're gonna make this team. You know you got a guy to your draft, I don't know you're gonna make the team. And and and here he is. You look at this and you feel pretty good about about what he did out there. Let's you always got to talk about the quarterback situation, Josh Rosen. I think you can see Josh Rosen growing. You know that that the touchdown class touchdown play where you know he went through his progressions. This guy's not there, this guy's not there.

Kenyan Drake gets knocked out trying to run his route. He gets he gets knocked down, and he finds the arrow take off the wheel rout route and and and he hits it. And uh and that was nice to see going through progressions, getting to the guy that's open, getting the score. And but I'll tell you what I for the first time in a month, I'm really happy

for this. I was happy, fans were happy, but man, I was more happy for those guys on that offense because it's just been it's been such a grind for those guys to get to to get a touchdown on

the board, to take a lead in the game. All of those things I thought were you know, a little payback for these guys for what's been a really, really tough tough it's been a it's been a real tough stretch, and it was really good to see h a play executed so well where Rosen gets back clean pocket had plenty of time to kind of, as you said, you know, proves where he wants to go with the football, and then he had DeVante run a really discipline route with

his head turning back like he's gonna stay in the flat. He turns it upfield, King bites on it and and then Josh lays a perfectly placed pass, uh for the touchdown. You kind of like even the crowd, you know, I felt instant uh, you know, excitement, and you could tell the crowd was waiting to cheer something offensively, and it was it was nice to see. Uh. You'd like to see a little bit more of it on a consistent basis.

But early in that game, I think he was four for four for seventy five yards on that On that drive, Rosen looked sharp, the ball was coming out on time. Uh, you know, the couple of plays later in the game he'd love to have back when he was backed up on his own end and he'll learn, He'll learn, you know, the more experience he gets in those situations, the better he's gonna be for it. But I thought he threw the the football, you know, for the first part of

that game pretty well well. You know what we I think what we've seen now in two starts for Josh Rosen is his ability to throw the ball deep down the field, and he throws it in good spots. Uh, he gets the ball down there. He gives guys opportunities to make plays. It's kind of that intermediate part of the game that that he's got to get a little bit a bit, a little bit tighter on um and and you know reading you know, you know, talking to the coach, doing a coaching show with the coach, Flora

isn't talking about Rosen. You know. One of the things that they worked on, one of the reasons that they kind of held him out until until last week, was he you know, getting him more acclimated to reading defense and seeing things, seeing those mismatches, being able to look we talked about Philip Rivers and and and Dak Prescott and and and Brady. Those guys line up, they know the missman, they know where they want to go. But look,

you're talking about other than than Dak Prescott. You're talking about guys that have played twenty years whatever, and so you know those guys struggled early on their career, but they got there. Now Doc, you can see Dak. You know he he's getting there and he's gonna eat The longer more he plays, the more he's gonna be that kind of quarterback. And you see that in him. And

and that's where Josh has he needs to make. That's where he needs to make those He needs to understand, be able to read the defenses, understands where that soft spot is to take advantage of that. Well how many times boa in the month of July or the beginning of August where you asked, Hey, Rosen gonna start right amy, how does he look? How? And I'm thinking to myself, I don't see it right now. I think Fitzpatrick's the starter.

And I think everybody that came out to watch practice, if you're a fan, if you were a scout of whatever it was, it was clear cut that Josh it wasn't his job yet and he had to do certain things, as coach Flores said, he had to improve in certain areas so that you feel like you could trust his ability to throw the football, you could trust his decision making, you could trust his identification, so the lineman don't cut somebody free, that he's gonna get blindsider, he's gonna have

somebody in his lap on every other play. So there were different hurdles he had to overcome to be in a position not only to compete on an equal footing, but to be able to allow his true ability to shine. You know, sometimes if you didn't get through the first part of of getting through the play calling and identification and calling you know, a blocking sequence or getting out of a bad play into a good play, Uh, you can't allow your ability to shine through. And I think

he did that. Uh. And then all of a sudden you could see that ball came out on time, or that was a cleaner read, or that was that was down the field with no you know, flick of the wrist and a lot of his natural physical talent started the show. And I think you saw, you know that on display over the last couple of weeks, you saw glimpses of that maybe that maybe this guy can just get better from this point on, and the guys around him. You know, he they he elevates their game as well.

And I give you Brian Floores a lot of credit for for you know, because I remember talking to him about, you know, rosen Is, you know, as he ready, he's not. He said, look, we're not gonna put him in there until we feel he's ready to be able to play his best. In other words, if you put him in the game one of the season he's still having a hard time understanding defense, reading, that's not gonna give him.

You're not gonna see him in his best life. And I give him credit for for having the patients to get to the point where he felt the Dallas it was a time where you know, it felt like he's understanding, he's seeing things, and you saw it almost immediately when he stepped on the field. You could see a lot more confidence in him when he stepped on the field

in Dallas. And I think he saw it in the beginning of the game against the Challengers, a little more confidence, a little more you know, it's willingness to throw the ball and do things. So I think the progression with with Josh rosen Is uh Is is on a good track. It is, and it's not all about him throwing the football down the field. It's it's about getting up to the line of scrimmage and keeping pressure on the defense.

It's about finding a window to throw a screen pass you know that goes for nineteen yards early in the game, that acts like a big running play that gets you a lot of chunk yards that you know, all of a sudden, now instead of on your own twenty two, you're at the forty. You know, you're at the forty

five yard line. You're feeling like you've got some confidence about things that you're calling, or things as a even as a play caller, bow that you can get to on your list that you go, you know what, he can handle this Now I can give him. I don't have to spoon feed it anymore. I can get into the game plan. And because if he executes this, this is the right play call. So even even the simplistic

things of holding plays back because you're not sure. I think you're starting to see a little bit more in the I mean, and I think we're gonna see better things out of out of Josh. I think that we're just kind of scratching the surface with him. I'll tell you the one thing is you know, you can you can tell he's a little you know, like post game and look, I understand the games. You know. It's it's tough to stand up there. As as a head coach. It's tough to stand up there's a quarterback. And but

he's a little sheepish up there, you know. And I'd like to see him be a little bit more, a little more bravado, you know, say hey, look, you know, and I think he's afraid to you know, I asked a question. If I asked a stupid question, I prefer him and say, hey, you know, no, that's not right, you know, or be a little more forceful at me. But that's all, you know, that's his personality and that's what it is. But that's all part of being that

the leader that that that leader. Yeah, that guy is going to go out there and you know that that guy that can walk in the huddle. And if a guy guy makes a bad place that you know you do it again, just tell you get out of here, you know, I mean on the whole, or or I don't say, hey, I know you screwed up, don't do it again. Let's go. We need you, you know, don't let that affect you. Let's go. And I think we saw I think we saw some of that in in Dallas.

I think, yeah, that was a big step forward with him in Dallas to to be able to do some of that. And uh, you know I kind of you know that. You know, there's a long long way to go for him, and he's got a long way to go. But it's it's nice to see each and every week you feel a little bit better about where he is that we have been be him coming in so Gonnana. We're gonna stop and talking to him for a little bit.

All right, we're here with Evan. Let me get it right, Evan dam right, man, I tell how many different ways is uh hasn't been pronounced? You know at restaurant. I know, I grew up with the name of bow Camp. I've had different a lot of different restaurants. We pitt B A M E, so they say it right. So like we've been out of restaurants boheim bomb, Like there's there's a lot of different Well, well you're here now. It's great to have you and uh, you kind of reunited

with one of your guys schools coaches. You know he's he's been here a couple of times now, and he's kind of got a reputation around here. But as we're talking, he's a he's a he's a dyeing the hard old school offensive line coach he is, and and I love it. I like it that way. Um. I grew up a coach's kid. My my dad was a head football coach in my high school. UM. So so my offensive line coach in high school who played his names Chris Barrows.

He played offensive line the University of Missouri. UM. But I mean not you, only him, But I think every coach had free rein to just jump on me and when I when I when I did something wrong. So there's been times where I was woken up in the middle of the night when all the coaches were downstairs watching film, pulled out of my bed and saying, hey, what happened on these two plays? Explained me your thought process? So so I kind of got it at an early age.

But you know, good Good does it in a way to where he makes it so hard during the week and during practice to where when you go out on

Sunday you don't really think. You just go out there and play and and you do what Google has been harpened on because because we just talked about in the meeting room is when when we watch our film and we see like if we're supposed to post up on on something and we drop our inside foot worse thinking it before he says something, and so he drills it into your mind so much to where you're sitting there like, well, the good is gonna get me on that one? For sure?

Well you know you guys, get you guys, I say, you get the benefit of watching the game tapes the day after the game. Yeah, you know when I played, we had Monday off. We didn't watch him till Tuesday. So your whole day off, you're sitting there and you know how it is. You know every play that you messed, you know, whether whether it was a small whether it was a wrong step with you, you know that play.

So that day off wasn't such a good day off because in your mind, jeez, I'm gonna get my ass ripped for this and that one and this playing that play. And so it's a I would prefer it to have have been Mondays, but they're never fun. Those names there, but you know they're there. It's a you know, it's a necessity. You know, you gotta gotta learn it, gotta move and and the best way to learn is to see it on film. You do it because in your mind, you're doing it one way. You look at your edge.

I didn't didn't realize I was doing that because like last week we or this past week, we were emphasizing staying on the double teams, double team, double team, double team. And and at the beginning of the week, and you have me slotting in the right guard for the first time this year, and you're bringing up Isaiah Prince, the rookie, first first ever start in the NFL, and so we've never played next to each other. So that was one

thing that him and I was fitting in. And do I need to give him more to hit on the double team or does he need to take this step to get over there more? Like so during the week, I mean, we were getting ripped on just because not really ripped on, but coached coach coach to be great at the double team. And and I think Sunday we had quite a few double teams that that were really good. And you know, there's still a couple that we need a fix. But at the same time like that brings

it back to the googe coach in your heart. The old school coaching way is we got it so many times. We got to drill it into our heads so many times of this is a step it needs to take. This is how much I need to give Prince. This is how much he needs to give me in order to make it a successful double team touchdown. I think Isaiah kind of got bounce, got off bounce a little bit. You're able to come out and take out Bosa, give him time to throw the ball down the field right,

you know, touchdown. And then there were some plays during the course of the game running plays with the double teams allowed Drake or the running backs to find decrease and so all that we're going it's it's gonna be tough coming into a situation like this where the offensive line is not set. It hasn't been set one week this season. Every week it's a new guy in or

at a different place or whatever. And for a unit like yours, or like an offensive line that that demands so much of knowing what the other guys doing, communication continuity, well that's it's gotta be tough on you guys. To to get that in in in short short order to be it'd be nice. Get your five guys and let's let's get three weeks at least together, which is not a long time, but to really understand what you want to do or how how how you react with the

other guys that are around. And that's that's what a lot of people don't understand about the offensive line. It's it's five guys doing one job. It's five guys who have to beat together and in the right sink, in the right formation to make a successful play. You can't if it's I can I compare to a chain, you have one week link in that chain. The chains I'm gonna hold up. And and that's the same way with

the offensive line. You have five guys doing one job together and if one messes up, it's it could be a severely devastation play. It's a negative play. And and that's one thing I think if you go back over the last four weeks, we've we've started to correct those things and more and more and more, and we left a lot we did. We did leave some plays out there on the field last week, and and that's tough

to see when you go back and watch film. But that goes back to watching the film and learning from your mistakes from the film, from practice from Wednesday to Friday, going out there Sunday and seeing that, Yeah, we did make progress in that area, but we still have some progress to go. You come, you know, you go back in your Kansas city guy right there, and they had

a big, big high school career in Kansas State. And you not only played football, but you you're a heavyweight wrestler, and you through the discus and and you were you were state champions everywey wrestler. I was a state champion all three my junior year. Yeah, we won't talk about the senior year. But so so high school football, wrestling in the disc case. And so your your favorite thing was football for sure. Yeah, well I grew up. I grew up like I said, I grew up in football. Um,

but my dad was also a wrestling coach. So I grew up on a football field and a wrestling coach. And he was a girl's shot and put hardest practice, hardest practice in high school football ar wrestling. My first two years I wrestled, and I couldn't wait to stop. Those are those practices where the most miserable in that hot gym, sweaty, smelly garbage cans to puke in. Oh yeah, yeah, by far, wrestling is the toughest. And but but I

love it, man. I mean and and I didn't start playing football on seventh grade, and I was a soccer player. And so you put the footwork and the balance from from from wrestling into what I'm doing now. I'm always bending my knees in the wrestling stance, trying to find a leverage, trying to find something stay in balance. It's the same thing in the offensive line. It's finding that leverage. And and me, I'm a shorter guy, so I kind of get some natural leverage. But still if you see

I need to play lower. I still need to get and get in there and do that. You know, It's funny because I talked a lot of parents and they asked me about you know, and now there's this in this at day and age, it's you know, your kid's gonna play baseball and that's all he's gonna do. And I always telling me, say, you know what, I I played whatever sport it was, it was baseball season, played

baseball with basketball season, basketball, football season. I wrestled. I you know, I did a lot of different things, and I keep trying to tell me, you know, every one of those different sports you can take something from that score to to adapt to football right now, like basketball, you know, the you having to square up, be able to move, move laterally and defend, you know you you

do that in football. So all those things. But it's funny how pep parents get so tied in with getting their kids into one sport when they're seven, eight, nine years old and going forever. And I keep trying to tell them and I'm I'm you're you're another example of play different things and all like just like you said, the things that you learned from one one sport, it adapts,

it it's it's it's meaning. And I think that's a good thing that like my parents did with my brother and I. It's you're going to be a three sport athlete and we're not gonna stick you in football and you're gonna live in the weight room and not do anything for the rest of the rest of the school year. It's if it's like you said, if it's football season, it's football season, and when that's over, you're going into wrestling. And when that's over, you're going into the into the track.

And you know, we made a deal, my parents, and we were fortunate enough to to make this deal, my brother and I with our parents is when we turned sixteen, we had to have an above three point five g p A and be a three sport athlete, and they would take care of our car, our car insurance, and our gas. And if we weren't, we had to get a job and and make sure we make the money to pay for the car and then the gas and the insurance and stuff like that. And and so we

were fortunate enough to do that. But my parents really pushed a three sport athlete. And my dad as a head football coach, he goes and when he met with families and like we did that big introduction of preseason, like this is what we expect. He straight up said, you're a student athlete. You're expected to be good as great in your classroom as you are in the football field. But I don't want your son to be in win or weights. He said, he can be, but I want

your son to be in other sports. To learn other sports, to to pick up your speed and track, to to work on your balance and basketball or wrestling and work on that lateral quickness and stuff like that. And he really pushed that and that was fun. And it doesn't it keeps it unboring. It keeps you active where you're doing different things. You will because so many kids know how don't I keep going into that. But so you go to so you played you played center pretty much

all through high school. Now it was a left tackle left. Let you go to Missouri, your center, your rookie, your freshman left guard. My my freshman year and you played center, the guard, your your freshman moved the center the spring ball of my rookie and the University of Missouri and that and and so you you I'm out of college, you think you're gonna be a center somewhere and now you're playing guard. Yeah, I think, uh, the only the

only starts at center I've gotten. I've been last year in Indianapolis for four center starts and everything else has been at right guard. Yeah, but again it goes back to that multiple things, different things you can do. I'm sure if there's a situation center, you're gonna be one of the guys they look at and say, hey, let's let's plug him in. There. Um, But like c Kilgore, stay healthy and like see everyone to stay healthy and

keep going. So how's your time been here? Yeah, I know it's it's it's it's it's a different year, different thing going on here. Um, it's a necessary evil and at least in my mind, And so it makes it tough for for for everybody in that locker room changes different thing and and and and struggling in games is never fun, no, And and you know, coming in as a new guy, he don't know really what to expect.

And and so I'm learning a whole new offense. And one of my first week here, my first week and a half, it was a whirl in my head was spinning. I gotta be here at this time. I gotta do this. I got to learn these players at this time and do this and that. But it's all settling down for me and and I think it's starting to settle down

for everybody else. And and I think Coach Flow said it's the right way today, And it's where a couple plays away and every and every aspect of the game and the special teams in the offense and the defense, where a couple of plays away, you look at the first first half in this game compared to the first half in the last three games. I mean, we're right there and and and we still left players out on

the field. And it's the same way. We just gotta we we gotta pick like and we're doing a good job of it, of of staying positive and going out there and just working as hard as we can to become a better football team. Because if we clear those eight nine ten plays up throughout the game, these ball games are gonna be different. A drop ball here turns into a catch this turns into you know, a lot of different things that it's just some so small details.

But as you keep those things keep minimizing, you do see the growth in this football team. But it's it's tough. I know it's tough, and just kind of keep your nose to the grindstone. But you've got some good guys in that meeting room and googs for for all of his bluster and and all of his things, he wants the best for you guys, and you know that. And that's that's the big thing. And he tells us, and he tells us during the week, I am going to be an asshole coach. I'm going to stick to everything

that I believe in because I know it works. So they've done it for fifteen years, and I think you start to see what we're buying into the techniques and everything that he's teaching more and more and more, and we're giving Josh more time, and we're we're creating holes in the run game and and we're just doing taking those steps. But instead of taking these baby steps each week, we gotta start taking some grown men steps to to correct everything. The bye week coming in as it does

right now. You know, a lot of guys, you know, you maybe like a little later on, but I think for this team right now, it's a good's going in. It's it's a good spot. You know. We were talking about a little earlier in the show. You gotta get away a little you know, it's to give you a chance to get away kind of you know, reflect, decompress a little bit, reflect back, but also get some time

away from the game. Yeah, and be just just be guys, and to be with your family and be with your friends, or do something to get you away and just just to clear your mind. I would think that's that's gotta be something that you're really looking forward. It is and and you gotta especially for the new guys that have came in, and this first four weeks have been super hectic, and mind like your rolling, your rolling, your role, and

you're you're pretty tired right now. And like you said, this is a perfect time for us to to just take a deep breath and relax, evaluate ourselves on how we did the first four weeks and how are we going to change that for the next eleven. I honestly, I remember doing the postgame show for week one and they're talking about the offensive line. I said, oh, you gotta understand there are two three guys in this offensive line didn't even know where the stadium was. Do you

know how to drive to the state. I mean still I still type it into my yeah, And so you know that that's that, and it's off is you know, you people don't think about that. They don't think about living in in in the day to day. And then yeah, you know, I've been here for three days. I gotta go to the game. What hell is the game at? You know? And and and like that's it's exactly right. It's the people don't know a lot of people think we just show up on Sundays, get paid and and

and play football and get paid. And that's not it at all. It's we come in and we're trying to learn these offense. We're trying to learn these plays and in these schemes. And then on the flip side of learning all of our stuff, we're watching film on them and seeing what they do and trying to pick up on their keys and and what protection fits best against this this type of front versus that type of front, and and so it was hectic, but you were slowing

it down. The game, the plays, and the game is starting to slow down for everybody, I think, and I think last this past week was the first time that all five guys stayed out there and there was no change since I mean Baltimore week it was like that, but this week, like it was like that, and you saw the progress it took from from practice to to now and and where we are. So we we just gotta keep on taking those steps for sure. So last November,

you're in you're playing with the Colts. You get your first started center against the Dolphins in November game the quarterback A big game that was that was that was a tight game and you had a big game, three touchdowns for Andrew Luck and uh you remember that game. And I know at that point you have you're you're there, but here here, you are now and now here. And

it's just the way the league is these days. And it is and and uh, you know, I give credit to good Um, you know, Googe Googes helped me out. And even last year Slawson and Goode and and Bobby Johnson,

who's now the onlyine coach in Buffalo. Uh, they brought me in week six and you know, I'm thinking I'm playing that same week and I have to learn these plays and do all this stuff and and learning the techniques that Googe wants because you know, every'all offense, I mean it's essentially all the same, but every offensive line coach and the National Football League has different ways of

how they want different things blocked. You know, essentially, you're gonna have an outside zone, you're gonna have an inside zone, you're gonna have a pool, you're gonna have a counter, you're gonna trap. But the way they want it is totally different. And so you have to learn that and pick up on that as quick as possible. And um, you know I'm I'm happy to be here. I'm glad

to be here. I wanna I want to be a part of this team and help them win football games and do them do the right thing and show the show them that you know, I'm not I'm not just some guy off the street who can't play football. I don't want to go and I want to be a dominant physical force in in the football game. Look, this is a fan base that, uh, you know, I've been I've been here in good times. I've been here bad

times and then in the good times. Um, and they've been a lot of bad times here for a while. But then when it turns around, this fan base is uh, is really gonna be a lot of fun to for sure. And you could see that ye last week with I mean we went in a halftime seventeen ten and and the fan base was there and they were a routing

and it was fun to be a part of. And and you here when you nothing better, if if nothing feels better as a player, and you can probably attest to this too, is is when that big play is made and you just hear an uproars the fans and you don't know what's going on, but you know, something really good happening, and that makes you want to go out there and play even harder and better and put on a show for for the people that showed up and supported you. I'm glad you're here. We're glad you're here,

and appreciate your stopping by. Wish you the best of lux State. Appreciate and keep going keeping these guys. Hopefully you guys can can get you know, start racking up some games together. You can get to where you want to be in and I know you guys are gonna end up in a good unit. So appreciate you. Thank you for I appreciate it very much. Yeah, I have a good Thank you. Kevin Bam. You know, we talked about it, and it's it's you know, it's it's a

funny John, It's not funny. But well, every week you just gotta looking at all the new guys. Where's he had, he's in his normal position, is he's somewhere else? But I thought him him putting him in there next Isai And we talked about that early in the show. Um was good for it was good for both of them, you know. And I think Evan first play out one of the first players out the fact a touchdown play, a Joey gets up field and looks like, you know,

I say, it's a little off balance. Bab comes out and and and really gave him the time to throw the football. So nicely see him in there. And uh, and you know, another guy's a good guy. Having a team that's got some experience, and you know, it gives you some good work when he when he shows up, he's gonna have a chance to play. I mean, he's gonna have a chance to contribute on this football team because there's so much uncertainty upfront and you never know

week to week and game to game. Injuries always play a role on the offensive line. It seems like it has really bit the Miami Dolphins in terms of either you have rookie talent that you're trying to evaluate, or you have veteran guys that can play multiple positions. And he's one of those guys that have seen a lot of football. There's not a whole lot of uh experience up up front other than Kilgore at center when you talk about guys that have played in multiple years and

multiple games. So it's nice to have the security of a guy that has had experience with different teams and different schemes, and he knows Googles what his expectations are and how he's gonna coach you and what what where you have to play, where your level needs to be consistently uh to to have opportunities to be in the

starting lineup. And I thought he did really well. Google some he had him in and so he knew about him and coach, here's a guy that that we can work with, that can fit in here and and help us out. And he certainly did that. So good to have them. Hey, so now you're going to BUYE week, John, And this is a week that you know, I think for this team right now. You know, you know a lot of guys might like a bye week a little

later on the season. Pretty good time, I think for this week for this football team, because you know, training camp is tough, and then and then the first four games, you know, it's it's time to get away from it a little bit, kind of clear your mind a little and get with your family, do what you're gonna do, get a little rest, heal up a little bit. And you know, you got some guys, you know, Bobby McCain and the guys were hurt last week that that that

didn't play. Um, get them back healthy again, Robert Wilson, get him, Jesse Davis, he'll be back. Jesse Davis, we're back. And some of those other guys got they're dinged up a little bit. Get them back and really get your full compliment back. Uh, as you get ready and move on to some games quite frankly that that you know that are winnable. You mean you got Washington coming in the Redskins, and and who knows where they're gonna be in in in two weeks. They've got a question whether

their coach is gonna get fired. Uh, they're gonna bring in a new quarterback, brought they brought brought Hasking in and and that was no there was no better Roses there. So you know there's an opportunity. But I think there's bye week is important and I know talking to UH to coach Flores, and it's it's a lot of self scouting, scouting players. Every everybody in this building. Everybody in this building, whether you're a player or a coach, is going to

be reevaluating over the course of this bye week. Yeah, I think it does come as a at a good time. Bo. You talked about the injuries, but I just think it was devastating the way the Dolphins started this season against the Ravens, that that felt like, you know, I know, only one game counts, is one win or one loss, but that felt like a multiple game flurry. That just was a flurry of of touchdowns and big plays that

continued to knock the Dolphins down. And it might be Owen one at the at the end of that game, but it felt heavier than that. And um, and then you couple the three losses after that, and now you're sitting at ohen four. You just want to you need oxygen.

You're looking for You're looking for some life into the organization, into this football team, and the best way to do that is to maybe take a step back, get away from football, let the coaches kind of evaluate what they've seen over the first month of the season, get a better plan for what they want to move forward with

in weeks six when Washington comes to town. And maybe maybe you're you're also when you self scout, you're subtracting some of the stuff you're asking your team to do that maybe they just quite frankly can't do on defense, maybe you're looking for different types of schemes to get after the quarterback for sure, because that's been the biggest problem. So I think in terms of offense, now you've got a quarterback that you know, you want to feel like

he's gonna go the rest of the way. If he's healthy enough, he's gonna start the rest of the way, do what he does. Well, let's accentuate some of the positive us you've seen over the last two weeks offensively

and defensively. Either you need other bodies to come in and rush the passer, or you've got to coach differently with different schemes and in different ways of getting after the opposing quarterback because what has happened over the first four weeks really isn't good enough to go through the next stretch of the season. And and that's a tough that's a tough ask. I mean it is you know, if it's the same guys, same guys, same results, you bring in other guys, is that going to be better? Um?

But you can't, you know, you can't become I don't think this team is good enough on the back end to be just a multiple mean and then because now you're putting the pressure on the guys in the back. If you're gonna do it, you gotta get there because if you don't, boy, you're putting those guys in the back in a very, very vulnerable state. Well, I I will say this though, if they go up against Washington and Haskins is the quarterback, I'm coming. I'm coming with

some exotics. I'm coming on some different things that at least well, you know, we gotta try something, okay, and then you know, you get Donald down the road. He's a talented quarterback, but he's only in his second year, you know, so I'm sure that there's some things that you can get after him. You know, as the season moves along, and I know you've got still Tom Brady at the end of the year, and you're still gonna have to go against the Bills, who look like a

very formidable team. But but the immediate teams that you're playing, I think you might have a chance to to maybe change up what you're doing a little bit defensively. Self scout yourself obviously, pick out some of the things you like, some of the things maybe weren't done execution wise. But I still think you gotta you gotta try to throw a wrinkle war two in there that you haven't done, or that you've picked up from other teams that might fit your players or your skill set on this team.

And and for the coaches, they'll they'll look at themselves, look at themselves, what they've called. They'll go over every play that they've called, every defense they've called, everything they've done. Uh and and and you know, it's fortunate that you know that the players are gonna probably have four days off on what their what their schedule is, but there'll be a couple of days in there where they don't

have to go out to the practice field. So they'll sit in there and they'll they'll evaluate themselves as much as they'll evaluate the players. And the coaches will value with other coaches, and so you know, they're you know, they'll they'll find some things that you know, to me, it's to me, this is it's kind of like a let let's boil down a little bit. Let's boil down. Let's the things that we've tried multiple times that don't work. Let's throw them throw them off the ship. Throw them

off the ship. And those things we've we've done really good. Let's let's put them into more. Let's let's let's let's go to those things a little more. And it's continued. You know, it's that old give me the six best running plays you got, and give me the eight best passing plays you got, and let's let's let's run them to perfection and see if they can stop us. Exactly. And while yourself scouting yourself, I'm sure you're perusing the league and saying, well, you know, I bet we could

do that. You know, you see that something that Detroit did against you know, so and so, or something that you know, the Cowboys did after we played them, and I really liked or or the Saints or whoever, whatever team it is that you're looking at. I think that that's the time where coaches pick up that copycat league type of mantra that you know, you like that route combination, I like that coverage. I like the way they disguise this.

I think our guys could do that really well. It fits our skill set, you know, so I think that's where you get a couple of new wrinkles as well. So it's a it's a you know, it's it's it's it's a valuable week in a lot of ways. Rest, get the guys healthy a little bit, get their mind away from the game. Yeah, find somewhere to go away, and and then just so you know, be with your family. You know, they don't don't even think about football. Come

back when you're fresh. The coach is probably a lot of less time to do that than than the players. But but they'll get a little opportunity to and John, you and I can get a little opportunity to take take a little time off in this bye week before we get ready to come back and and see Washington in a couple of weeks. So anyway, that's gonna do it for us today. For John Kjemmy, I'm Kimbo Camper. Will catch you in the audible next week. Have a good bye week off and we'll talk to you next time.

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