The Audible Ep. 45 | Head Coaching Search

I don't know what the team's gonna look like. But Joe Rose is back. Joe Rose back. You need studio, I need a little fixed stuff building up through this team and everything that's happened. Jimmy Kim This is Audible Audible brought to you by Verizon the Best Unlimited is on America's most awarded network. And uh, here we are. I mean, you know, it's it's it seems like it seems like a annual three year occurrence where we're sitting here wonder who's gonna be our next code, what are

we gonna do this and that? And uh and look there's you know they've gone out. They've talked to Brian Flores from New England, Eric the Enemy from Kansas City. These are confirmed interviews they've had. Chris Richard, the Kid from the Cowboys, d C, and Dennis Allen all have been talked to you by this football team with with

some more coming obviously. Uh, Darren Rizzy is a guy that name has been thrown out there is as getting a deal here, So I'm just gonna throw it out you with with with the parade of people that have come through right now, how are we feeling about this football team, this franchise, this entire organization and the direction they're they're looking at for for these players, are these coaches?

Is there anybody in your mind that kind of jumps out and says, you know that that guy would be really interesting to me considering a lack of talent on this team and where they are. No matter what anybody says that a little bit with you, I know you you want to buy. We have a lot of young talent. I do some and you and I some so some I'm not talking about like twenty guys, but but but I would say you know you you got you got

actually took three years to get to the Pro Bowl. Fine, Minko is probably gonna be a Pro Bowl player, Thoms should probably be a good Jesse Davis played well for you. I think got you on Vincent Taylor or two guys you can build with. To me, the big question mark with the young guys or are those two linebackers gonna make that next step to being the type of linebackers you thought that they could be. And I'm not so you got a little bit. But but but the covers

are not empty. Look I'm not I'm not dead on Gasecki. I think a year in the weight room, a little work in there, I think he's get Well you're not gonna get an argument from me on that talent. Better quarterbacks. Well, there you go. There there goes and to me, there we're going a lot of different avenues. There goes the ultimate decision on this football team this year, next year, the year after, whenever they make that decision. But before

we get to that, let's kind of get back. Let's let's let's put the cart before the horse, because I'm pushing that car pretty hard, you know, on the quarterback there. Um, But but let's talk about these guys a little bit, Joe. The guys that that you've seen come through and look, you know, we we know him from arms and length. We know him from I remember at the Enemy when he played in Colorado. This guy, that guy, I don't

I don't know, I don't know. You know, I haven't delved into these guys, but obviously they're they've they've they've done enough to where they've putting themselves in the forefront of every coaching search that's out there. Right now. I have I have a whole bunch of thoughts because we've all talked about this a lot since the end of the season, even before. These guys are these defensive coordinators mostly that that we're talking about our offensive coordinators. We're

talking about guys that have talented teams. We wouldn't argue that are having great success, whether Dallas Cowboys defense or Kansas City Chiefs offense. That they're all coming from good programs. I've seen. I'm gonna think outside the box. Uh. The guy I like and been jumping all over is Darren Rizzy. I would love to see Darren Rizzy. He knows this thing, he's seen it. He's got tough love in him. I think a big thing is and it's not that though.

Adam Gates under the bus, but he's been there his assistant head coach and has been involved in a lot of things to see it, I would say most things as a head coach. In other words, you know, yeah, well you know, we know, we know Adam was Adam was a play caller. Adam play called and now what he was he game day? It was Rizzy that had the red flag in his pocket. It was Rizzy that made decisions on personnel. It was Rizzy that had time

man clock management. So Rizzy wasn't was responsible on game day. Now, I look, I always I always try to to to to start out with this. I'm not in those meeting rooms behind closed doors, and that's where everything happens. We know that. But from a game day standpoint, to me, the guy that was most closest to the head to a head coach on that day Darren Rizzy, more so

than Adam gave to me. Adam Gates was more of a on game day the same game day, was more of an offensive coordinator than a head coach, and Rizzy was more the head coach than the special team coaches on the team. I mean, this is a guy that when you go for evaluations of a roster from nine to fifty three or you know, practice squad, all that stuff, it's him usually from thirty five to forty to fifty three that's going yea or nay. You know, how does he fit for me? How many teams is he on?

How how valuable is he as a defensive back or an outside linebacker or a wide receiver going down on special teams. That's the guy that's making the ultimate decision or the evaluation for that decision to be made. So for me, I think Darren Rizzy right now. No disrespect to anybody, we always have to start with that. No, I'm all right, does in Floridas do anything for me? No? Okay, does Eric Bienemy do anything for me? It doesn't mean they're not real good coaches. But I know this guy.

I know what he brings to the table. Um Maybe maybe you know, because we're not in the interview process to get to know these guys and evaluate them, apples apples to say like, Okay, I know what Darren is gonna bring to the table. I don't know what these guys. Rizzi's interview is legit that I hope it's legit. And they asked him stuff like he's a serious candidate, because if he's not, he's gone staying around because they're gonna try to keep him and he's gonna go. Now that

one hurt. And that's another thing with Darren Rizzi. You know, look at all the look at the changes, all these head coaches that have come and gone, but they've all chosen to keep him. You know what why is that? You know they all have different opinions on the way they should run teams, the way they should where, the way they want to do things, but they've all kept him, all kept him. So the other thing is Brian Flores, Eric Biona Me, Chris Richard, Dennis Allen. What are they

all have in common? What's the one thing they all have in common? I'll give it to you right now. Tom eighty um, the kid from what's the Kansas City Kids? The quarterback Mahomes? What Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott and Drew Brees. They all got damn good quarterbacks? Are they are? They? Are they a product or the quarterbacks product of the coordinator or the quarter or the coordinator's products. Think the fact that they've got one of them. They've all got

very good quarterbacks. To have very good quarterbacks, and that's what you have to have in this Now you can say that for anybody in this league. By by the way, any well that that's what that was goes back to my point. Doesn't matter what the name of our quarterback is in the Miami Dolphins, you have to be able to get consistent play from that position, and sometimes you need that position to to mask a lot of deficiencies

on your football team from week to week. If you don't have that in the National Football League over a sixteen game season, you're not getting to the playoffs. So every one of those guys that you mentioned on those teams and those players on those teams have guys at that position that are either gonna win you a game masks some deficiencies that you have. They're bad. Games aren't

a hundred and five yards passing. So what you're saying until the front office, because it's gonna be on the front office, Chris Career and his gang, they got to find a quarterback before we have success with a head coach. They need to find saying I'm saying, to find consistent play from from either a draft choice or a or a free agent that that's gonna come in and be able to take the reins of this team for one or two years or whatever it is until you get

your guy that you think is a franchise quarterback. I'm more and more convinced to be a successful head coach in this league you have to have a top ten quarterback. I bar none, it doesn't matter. And you know you're not gonna be a good quarterback coach unless you've got a good quarterback. You got it to me. I'm this league more and more and more has boiled down to that one position being the ultimate position in this and everyone it's a tame game. But yeah, it is a

team game. But if you don't have that guy on your team, you ain't got much of a game. It's more of a quarterback league now with the new rules and ever we we we have got to find a quarterback. We can't. It's nothing against Ryan Tannell is a nice guy. Know he works hard and all that stuff. Just same mistakes are being popped up. Just drop back Sack. I know it's been through it. It's time to move on. He's thirty years old. This is not a twenty four

year old guy. The experience, even going back that he played a wide receiver for a couple of years in college. It's over, like it's time to move on and get some new quarterbacks in here on this cross. No, there's no question there's a couple of rooms that are gonna be vacant that you're gonna go have a lot of occupancy to go out and have names and come in. And whether that's free agency, whether that's through the draft, whether it's a blend of two, you're gonna have a

few rooms. And I could I could go through the cornerbacks room and go, wow, you know after X, you know where you at. You can't keep Bobby outside. He's a nickel about that drop off at the second cornerback. It's about a cliff drop that we and what do you do a defensive end. I mean, you've got a bunch of names, but where's the production of a bunch of veterans They got to disside. There's a lot of

decisions that need to be made about that one. Chris Career, by the way, got his he's got his work cut out with all these decisions, and he's got that big decision, Joe, that big decision right there is going to be what's gonna and and and looked at to me, you know, the big the whole to me, the whole landscape change in this upcoming draft. When Dwayne Haskins said, I'm in on the draft, whole new landscape, now everything changes. And and my position on that, if he's there, do whatever

the hell you gotta do to get him. You're talking about John Harbor, hardball. We may have to trade for him, bullshit. I don't want to trade for a coach. If you if you want to trade for a coach, and then we'll lose for a couple of years till we get our guy. On't you want you put all your eggs in the basket trade for a quarterback. Still lose for another year too, But at least you got a quarterback that maybe your franchise guy a year or two down

the road. You know what I mean. Agree, we need to put the car in front of the horse in this organization if you want to have success. I hope and everything I've heard the last two weeks about Haskins, I haven't heard one bad, not not one bad thing about physically all the things he can do. Okay, maybe if we got a nitpick hasn't played enough games in college played one year, and it might have to develop

a little bit. But some of it throws Washington. And that zone defense was supposed to be so good, one of the best zonned defense in college football. He picked out apart like a fifth grade flag football team. He looked pretty damn good. There was a lot of games

that he looked pretty damn good. Michigan. Yeah, but but I look, I I'm and I've said this before and I'll continue to say it is this team is not going to get the traction that the fans want, that the organization wants until they get that guy in there.

And you talk about Ryan Tannehills. The last four game, to me, the last four games that Ryan Tannehill played were the four most important games in his entire career because those were games that hey, meaningful games, chance to get to the playoffs, chance to get to a winning record, just go out there and win and win. And I don't think either one any one of those games he threw from more than two yards. It was very pedestrian in in in every game, and and and bad in

in you know, certainly the last game, right. So I mean your arguments, boy, Ryan Tannehill, if you're looking for so, I'm consistency you need. You need more consistency and a guy that's gonna be able to win you two or three games a year. And I just I just hope that he's there in free agencies there in the draft. And it may not happen in a year or two, but it's it sure needs to restart that process again because we've gone down that exhaustive road way way too

long in this situation that we're in. And and look, you know, you look around and you look at New England and they have Brady up there, but they also that the two guys, the kid that went out to San Francisco, you know, Garoppolos. I mean, he comes out there and all those all they do is start winning. You know, they had the other kid. I mean, you know, they they had good players that they had, you know, but and we're the we're kind of the lone range here.

We got our one guy and let's kind of pick off the scrap heap a couple other guys that back there that know that if if if you if they've got to play, then you've got no chance to winning. We're having a young guy that we're really developing, which is we don't have that young guy that's like, hey, we're gonna get you and we see potential in you. We just got a bunch of big band aids in there. So Chris Greer coming into situation, we all know Chris Greer,

you know, you know, and I think I'm assuming. I know, I know, I like the I like to move with Chris uh and and it kind of goes part of it kind of goes along the line with me with with Darren Rizzy is you know, you look at the teams in this league that have been successful over the years, you know, the New York Giants, that the Dallas Cowboys, at Pittsburgh Steelers, you know the teams of that ILK

they do. It's consistency, consistency in the front office consistency, not this constant churning of people that we've had here. And to me with with Chris coming in, and if you do make that move to keep down, it starts to give you a little bit of continuity of thought with this organization. Instead of going out and grabbing eric enemy and Eric comes in and says, yeah, you know what. You know, you guys have a quick team here. You

know it wants to be a power team. Now, we gotta still still go start getting some big guys, which is a two to three year process. And then here we are sitting in two and three years going, he's that guy, Eric, the enemy, He's not winning. We need to get rid of this guy. I mean, you know what I mean. And that's where we've been and for that for that to happen, in my opinion, this process can't be a three year turn. Now. This cannot be a whoever whatever name gets underneath head coach of the

Miami Dolphins are beside. That title cannot be Hey, in three you've got three years, and if if you don't do it in three years, you're you're out. If that's the case, but it can't be. But but if you pick the right guy, you know you're gonna struggle next year. There's I don't care if you one of us three coaches team we're gonna struggle. No, I think we'd be all right. We're gonna win as many games whoever we bring in guarantee you. But my my thought on this

is it's gotta be a five. It's gotta be at least five years to be the right guy. You have to pick the right guy and give him time because if you don't, just gonna be changing pain on the wall game, it's not gonna happen five years. You guys are dreaming. If you think a guy is gonna get five years, well you know, but but so if you don't. But Mr Rossa about I know, if you do, but what do you get? And like even when he came, We're gonna hire a guy for two years, and now

he's on the hot seat. Yeah, well you know what. And so he says, look, we need to we we need to build through the draft, we need to build through young players all this, and he even said, hey, look it's time. If it's two years, if it's three years, gonna be two or three years. But but but the fan base, the fan base, they can't under they can't grasp that, you know, I mean, you can't blame the fans on this. Bo No, I'm not blaming the fans

on it. And you know what, Joe you and you know it, and John you will anybody's been around this organization has had this conversation with some some dad or some mom. You know, my son is sixteen years old and he's never seen that the diamond offens be any good. Never and and and I never in my life would I think that word, that that phrase could be uttered from somebody's mouth about the Miami Dolphins and it'd be true. But that's where we are. But part of that reason

is it's the one step forward to step back. So at some point you gotta plant your flag in the ground and say, this is my guy. I'm giving him a six year deal and he's gonna get six years to turn this around. You know, you can go back to Adam, you know, you know, to me, to me, Adam would be the guy I would invested more time in myself. You know, the guy comes in kind of

gets things going. Next year, he loses his quarterback right off the bad you're bringing Jake Cutler, then you don't have you, then you then you get him, finally get him back, and you realize not the same guy he was when he got hurt two years ago. And now you've wasted two and a half years and injuries this year. Everything. I mean, I know, everyone says, oh, everyone has the injuries.

Everyone has injuries. This this team got gut punched almost every week beginning with Kilgore sitting William Hayes and on, and well, it was hard. It was hard on our depth.

I mean it really exposed something. It exposed some positions of of that you felt like we're positions of strength in terms of playmakers and explosive plays and being able to be dynamic on offense to totally bringing you know, bringing guys in and and being happy that Frank at thirty five was able to get four yards on first down. You know, that's where we were sorounded. Yeah, that wasn't That's what I was hanging my hat on her. Frank's gonna get you three or four yards and flows down

our offense. But it's so hard in the National Football League, with the way we played for the first maybe five weeks of the season, with all those four yard routes that went for fifty yard touchdowns, to to turn now and go okay, and how do we how do we mask our inefficiencies in terms of being able to get explosive plays, to be able to grind out ten twelve play drives without making a mistake or a pre snap penalty or a holding call or a drop and then

punt the football back. That's where we were at. That's one side of the football. We're all so bad on the other side. Yeah, yeah, I got a feeling, Joe, you got you got something seething in you that I just think do I think it's really bad. I'm just not just not not enough. Has turned out to be a wasted Not that these guys are totally on the watch, although Mike Tannebaum was um, but that's that's a waste

that's gone. One guy was we we released a defensive tackle that we needed help at and Avante lost his confidence, got injured. That combo he was just played his worst football year. He just he just got worse. So now you're putting added pressure on T. Six team, which has been really good. Great draft, and to be seen right right, I agree with that some good picks don't make his fantastic. I know Maka unfortunately this rookie class of first round

picks at the end of really good. But what Minka did this year, yea, he ended up being by far your second best cover corner. Hey, look to me, he's he's he's he's one of the top two or three players on your football team. I mean, can you hope for the first time you hope for a long time. The other question, now that you know they're talking about X and his contract and you know there's room at all, can you afford to keep him? I mean, you know that's and Joe you kind of touched on a little bit.

You know, you need to become a football team that just because you don't get along with a player, or just because you know you can't give away talent. You can't give away the talent you've got because you you you can't manage them. You need to figure out how to manage them, keep them and have them be productive, not just say you know, god, this guy doesn't you have to coach, doesn't Okay, they didn't get out of here, You're out of here. You know, believe if that happened there,

you know, we wouldn't have had a team. If you know, if everyone that after coach, you know, after coach, there have been he'd have been playing with Corn and Billy Davis or something like that. Bringing up some old names there. Right there, boy, you just hit a rock bottom from old school right there. You made your points strong right, Okay, So anyway, so so getting back to the coach, I mean, I would assume and I would assume that this this process,

what do you give another week? Within maybe another week, everybody out the talk to anybody you're still playing. You know, I'm sure there's gonna be a couple other names that are going to surface in terms of being able to have their availability a little bit earlier for their interview, and if they decide on them, could happen before the weekend. But the four names that they brought in, the four coaches that they brought in, are still coaching, so no

decision is going to be made before Sunday. Well, and the other thing is a lot of those guys are being interviewed for other places, and there's some of those other places might be better jobs. They are much higher on the list. I was kind of compiling names and teams, and you can go six, seven, and eight in any order you want out of the eight jobs available, and we're one of those three high in my opinion, that's

pretty accurate opinion right there. I'd agree, Yeah, but you know they're you know, they're just you start to think about, um, guys that that aren't interviewing for this this this job, and you wonder who whose decision is that? Is that the team says, oh, you know, we're we're just not the interest, with the guys saying ath like, I thanks, but no thanks. I've seen that. I've seen. I see what's going on down there, and I'm not real comfortable with diving into that pool until you guys find some

in structured right now. Though, I will say one thing with Chris career, I think he's well respected. People don't know. I don't think questions for me and I still don't know. And if you guys know, maybe you can answer this for everybody when this comes out. I need your help on this. So Adam Gates had finals say Chris crews in the middle, do whatever you need. I'll go out and find him. But but I also have some say so. And then Mike Tannon bombs at the top, who had

VP of football operations. He's running the show, so who had final say on all that stuff. I'm still yeah, I don't know. I can't three guys can't make a decision, ain't buying. No one's gonna agree. We could sit here all day and us and I would say this, I would say that when when it comes to the j Gies, the the Jarvis Landry's and Dominican sus my my guess would be that's that's an Adam move right there and nobody else. And he may have a command to convince

those guys. He was, but he was the impetus three and he's mpet behind that the other the other stuff. You know, you know who signed this guy, who signed that guy that that let's extend this guy, Let's let's get the kindent, we free up some money, let's give this guy. Think he'll be around and be a good player for another year. So speaking of that, when when we talk about X, because again going back to to my thought is, you know, don't let your good players

go keep your players. And I think we you know, I was. I was having a conversation with it with a friend of mine last night and we're talking about it, and I said, you know, I've I've all, I've gotten to the point now in free agency when the Dolphins signed somebody a free agent, Hey, this guy's out there, we want that guy, we want that And I've gotten the point now where my first thought when they signed a guy is well, how come they didn't want to

sign him? How come those guys that know him the best, that's that have had him for four or five years, and his team, how come they don't want him anymore? How come they're willing to let him go to free agency without compensation? Come? Then, what what you know? You know? You know, you know what I'm saying? Are are we just? You know? Are we have we become everybody's garbage sheep, every's garbage disposal? Hey, you know, this guy's a really

good player. You know what we're going, They're going to meet all they're going, we need to get rid of this guy because he can't play, and those guys they need a Cornerbacks of the time, you think of the Pittsburgh Steelers when when that happens? Those two teams that have been very successful over a number of years. But I would say there's been on a couple of occasions that when I saw William Hayes come, I was elated.

Yes to see a guy who didn't say much went out and worked his ass off at practice and went out in games and played multiple positions. I was going, Wow, he's almost as good or better than anybody we've got yes, I tell he he was before he got hurt. He was he was, he was the best defensive line we had before he got close. I would, but the injury bug, yep. There it is the same thing with the left cards and there in is the same thing with free agency.

Is you know we've made you go back to Mark Dixon and back to those guys right even back then where you got, Oh, this guy played for so and so. It was a really good player, but had some injury problems. So we signed him and then what do you get It gets injured and has an injury problem. Did that with Kilgore? Did? It was sitting and we and over

the years that's been the case. And you know, it's it's that old thing, you know, if you if you if you don't learn by your mistakes, and you're gonna just continue to make those same mistakes over and over and at some point. But look, having said that, you know there's a new guy in charge now. Chris Greer is a guy with clear thinking. His thought process and will time will tell what his process and thoughts on

free agency. Putting this roster together, keeping guys like like Xavian and and so, I was kind of leading to the point about X. What do you do with X? X is gonna want? You know, you want the top cornerback money a lot of money, right and moving forward, I think you have to find a way to keep them. I think you have to find a way to keep whatever you can think. He's one of you know, we talked about Minka, and we talked about him playing multiple positions.

He's probably the second best cover guy we have. But he's a natural safety in the National Football League in my opinion watching a movie. Now, he can play corner and he can guard you, but I think he's more natural. You want to put him off from the middle, you know, making place in there. So when you look at the roster, if you don't have X on it, boy, you've got a lot of you got to keep problem to keep your good players. You got a lot of problems players.

We sit here and bitch that we we end up having all these first and second and third round picks and I'll work out and we end up getting rid of him before their contracts are even done. Finally we got some guys want to keep it Now comes down to money. I want to have that problem. Every year Tuncil has gotten really good at left tackle, and now we gotta pay him, you know, probably like je if that guy makes guy makes all this incentive, man, you

an extra five million dollars. I wish I had to pay him ten million dollars if it's all on incentives, you know, because you're gonna get the best out of the guy. But you know, I'm with you. You gotta keep these guys, and you gotta look, I'm so I'm so tired of this salary cap bullshit that because everyonees on, we're tucked. Sorry, But the point being is this. I remember a few years back, Tampa went on a tear just signing guys, and I'm going, how the hell can

they sign all these a big contracts? And it made me realize, these guys can manipulate this salary cap in ways to fit whatever they want in there. So don't sit here and tell me I can't. We can't. We can't sign X one, one of our best players, one of our two or three best players. We can't sign him because he wants too much money. When you look at everyone else, you're gonase that guy's got an all pro in that corner. You gotta allpro on that corner.

You gotta all pro line. Those guys are all making money. How can you fit them in? And and we can't. You know, there's gotta be I say, damn the salary cap. Push it as far as you can get your people in here and money world. But but that's what you've got, you know. You know what, And I'm gonna say we because we're involved with this organization, we've got no one to blame but ourselves. We have no one to blame for ourselves for the situation we're in right now. Salary cap,

dead money cap, all those types of things. They decided to give Ryan a hundred and whatever million dollars they did a few years ago. That's on that's on this team. Ryan didn't Hey, Ryan wasn't didn't. I didn't hold a gun to his head. You know they made you tell me. They don't say to Ryan, hey will give you eighty five million? Get where do I sign? You know? Thank you? I'll work hard over there. Every cut my finger, I'll use the blood right if I can't find a pen,

you know. So it's it's you know, you just gotta you just gotta do it. But it made some bad decisions. I don't know if anybody wants to take responsibility, whether it's coach, GM VP of football operations. We made some bad decisions put us in this situation, but I'm with you. That doesn't stop me from getting guys signed. Yeah, no doubt about it, especially when they're they're impact and they're young. Yeah, that are going to be able to grow with the organizations.

Come on, we had to keep those guys. Well, look, I came John, we had this conversation before I go back to when I came into the league that the seventeen O team they were all getting along in the tooth. And I remember I came in. I think Dicky Anderson was on injured reserve. I think Manny Fernandez on injured dessert reserve, Bill Stanfield. They were all, you know, yeah, it is the end of your career. You just start

breaking down, and and that's what they had. And so then they then they draft they draft myself, uh, Larry Gordon and Duriel. The next year they draft a j and bomb Hower. The next year they get Dwight Tony Nathan don McNeil, and all of a sudden, you put three drafts together and now you got a nucleus. You just named ten or twelve really good, and you go and you go, and you've got to you've got a team.

You know what. I would like to grab all these young guys and put them in a room and say, look, I said, you know, when you go to you go to go to Colorado, anyone knows who you are, and anyone recognize you. No, No, when you go to New Orleans, any reckon, I don't know. I said, you know what I go places now, I'm sixty four years old, and people, hey, you can both yeah. And you know why that is

because we played in playoff games. We played on Natalie televised games, we played on Monday night games, we played on Thursday night games. Everybody in the country saw us play. No one sees these guys play. You want people to know you, get your ass out there, police your own locker room, make sure the guys who want a player playing and the other ones tell him, get the hell

out of my huddle. Get someone else in there. Do you guys be the backbone of the team and and and police your team and and and making a team instead of being guys and oh jee oh, I didn't get my carries and you know it's at some point. That's my point being, at some point the players need to look themselves in the mirror and say this ship is on us, not none. You know, coaches are coaches. I think a lot of that stuff is changed in the league. Both, No, you don't want to hear that.

I don't want to agree with it. But but until what's going on in Pittsburgh. Yeah, the ultimate in continuity. They have a quarterback, and they have and they have you know, a coach that's been there for a long time and ever, and they have stability in the front office. You know, it could happen anywhere. But but going back to one of our points that we were talking about, that's why I think this time around, you have to

be able to create some sense of stability at the top. Now, So say say you have Now it's streamlined with Chris career as the g M, he's making all football decisions. Great, I'm all on board with it. We got one guy doing it. Whoever, the head coach is bringing a quality defensive offensive coordinator, let them run both sides of the football. Be the CEO of this football team and see how it works. For three or four years, that way. You know,

we've tried the other ways. Obviously, the other ways are it's like a roller coaster. You know, you're gonna struggle with the roster that you have, but you're trying to build on the sixteen draft, the seventeen draft, the eighteen draft, and hopefully the nineteen draft. And and that's kind of the point I was trying to make, is that you've got some guys here that that you can build around, some young guys I think got you on Taylor. Those guys have you kind of worked on the right way, Taylor,

no doubt about. So you've got some guys there. Is that is that enough for you to be a team that's gonna be five hundred when ten games next year? I don't think it is. You gotta put some but but but at least and Joe, maybe maybe I'm the guy that's just I'm grasping for I'm grasping for a vine here, you know, I'm I'm swinging through the John. I was grasping for a vine to say, yeah, this is good enough to get me where I need to go.

You know, instead of grabbing on this one over here, there's gonna drop my ass into the quicksand and then yeah, and then you never see me again. Oh, we don't want that. But you're feeling better for a couple of months, he's crawled himself back to us. I have been I've seen you know, And so I think you've been beat down by the Joseph Pembroke Pines and and the Billy's

from Cooper City. And I've been beat down by stories of coming out out of this facility, from veteran players telling young guys not to play at the end of the year because we're not playing for nothing. You've got a new contract to get hey, man, make sure you get your money. And instead, and you got a coaching staff called, man, we need to win some these freaking games. And you realize you've got questionable guys and now they're not playing because you know, and it's just it's frustrating

to hear. But and then I gotta step back and go the game has changed, man, because it's not just here, it's everywhere everywhere and stuff. I never thought you put your if you put your finger right on when when when The Pittsburgh Steelers, one of the great franchises in the history of the National Football League, when you talk about stability, what they've had three coaches, right, I mean,

and players that have been there forever. When they start coming apart at the seams, then you know players are changing in this league. I mean in a big, big way. Let's let's let's let's let's take one more step forward, our our buddy Brent Grimes. You know, here's a guy comes out after the season and says he was what he felt disrespected. He asked to play against the top receiver and Tonio Brown because to take him all over,

because he wasn't making enough money to be that guy. Right, that's his You're not paying me enough money to go cover that guy. With the money you're paying me, I can only cover the second and third receivers, you know, not the first receiver. What kind of bullshit is that? How do you come over to the sideline to tell the coach say, you know what, I want you to follow an Tony Brown? No, no, coach, you're not paying money and I've been working at that guy. I'll go

with this other guy over there. You know. I It's disgusting, is what it is that's coming out from guys. And I'm like, Wow, there's just it's unbelievable. Yeah, the guys that feel disrespected or wondering because you're you're the best corner on the team and you're being asked to take Antonio Brown mirror them all over the field, Like that's

a compliment. Man. Your coaches think you're really good and that we'll give you some help in certain situations, but we want you to take them, and you take that as disrespect. That's the most respect you can you know. I'm watching now, have to have a salary cap on. Hey, wait a minute, no, get over here on this guy. You're paying you waiting. It is time out. Somebody called time and we got we don't have enough money on the field. The bottom part of that big paper is

like who can play where and when? No, no, wait, wait wait, let me tweet my agent, let me teck on my let me pull my phone out and check on my That's the other thing I'm I'm watching pregame more. The guy's got their phones in their pocket. I'm going, really, you can't. You can't leave the locker room and go

out in the field and get warmed up. So and I'm talking about I'm not talking about just the Dolphins I'm talking about every you know, the phones in their pockets and yeah, hey, hey, what's going I'm thinking, really, I don't know it's but look, look we can look at it has changed, and the league's change, and the

players are changing, their attitudes are changing. I think agents have really really gummed this whole thing up, like from from from everything from from leaks that are coming out to when guys should player, when they shouldn't play, you know, the ankle stor you know, you know you shouldn't go out there and play. And meanwhile, I'm standing on the sidelines. I'm watching Bobby McCain all year. He had like what he went out twice with concussion protocol twice or three times.

He's got other other problems, and I'm talking to doctor and they go, damn, Kim, we we can't keep this guy off the field. That guy, that guy, you know, he could have his arm dangling out there and he's whatever you want, I don't care who you want me to cover, you know you And and maybe maybe you've got to be a maybe if you're a GM a personnel guy, maybe your mindset has to be, hey, let

me let me, let me just get those guys. Let me get as many of those guys I can, and not those guys that in the fourth quarter of a game when the game's on the line and you asked him to do something, the guy said, I don't do that. No, I don't do that. You know, that's not my that's not my thing. You know. I just think boat coaches today and I only have to coach, But they have to have different personalities for different guys. The old school of hey, this is the way we're gonna do it.

Damn it. I don't think it's had way both. I think everybody's got different personalities. They grew up differently. And it's it's also a byproduct of a free agency Joe back in the day before even even when you had Plan B, which was a very limited free agent situation, you have nowhere to go. So that coach was gonna dictate to you, Well, what whether it's Chuck Nol, whether it was Tom Landry, whether it's Dick Nolan, you know, bum Field, whoever it was, that guy was gonna be

the determining factor on what your career was going to be. Now, you know, you come to a team and you gotta you gotta coach. It's a yeller and screamer, and I don't think there are very many of those guys. You can't be those guys in because if you're a yelling, screamer and you keep beating somebody down, you know the guy's gonna Hey, you know what, jeez, another another six months. I'm a free agent and I ain't coming here. I'm out. I'm out. These guys are too mean here. They yelled

too much and we worked too hard. I'm getting out of here right. You know. It's like when I went to I went to u n l V to visit to visit a recruiting trip, and and Ron Meyer was a coach here and I talked to five players and they go, you know what, man, we have the hardest practices in the country. I said, well, I'm gonna go somewhere else. Thanks, That's all I needed and be coming here. Friend of samose state where we had popsicle breaks and says, he, this is more, this is more of my Now. I

made the right decision. Yeah, man, Hey, you know what. You can listen to this on the Apple Music tune in Radio, Dolphins app, Dolphins dot Com, and Joey's your phone that there has been in your back pocket. It looks like he's got a little little bow to it. Man, Well you sit on it a little bit, and you know, I don't answer calls, so absolutely, yeah, it is a little crooked. Yeah, it looks like a little I don't know how because I've been talking on a much. No, no,

I've been listening on it sometimes. Who it is? All right, Okay, so here we are. I mean, but you know, it's just it's it's I would I wouldn't say semi anial, but it's a triannual. It seems like a triannual time for us in this situation. And so John, when let's kind of let's kind of time frame some things a

little bit here. The Senior Bowl is when Senior Bowl is the end of January Super Bowl, and so I'm my assumption is that teams want to have their head coach in place and some staff in place before that begins, so they can start the evaluation process. And as we all know, the Senior Bowl, if you've got a few spots to feel there are plenty of guys there. There's plenty of those guys there that, Yeah, everybody looking for

a job goes you need an offense and coach. Well, I've never been an offensive line coach, but I can do the job. I guarantee I can do that job. I've been getting a lot of calls recently, many dias people have been asking me about many hiring coaches. People wanted to get to him that you know, guys looking

for it. Yeah. Absolutely, those those jobs for offensive coaching staff. Right, I'm sure there's probably talking about um, there's probably former players that are lining up that want to be able to be positioned for receiver coaches, defensive back coaches, offensive line coaches. I'm sure that's happening. Hey, uh not not to not to kind of jump out of this for a second, but uh, I gotta, I gotta go to the National championship. Clemson and Alabama really really one of

the great nights to watch football. Just that sour puss on the Alabama sideline fall almost from the get go, was was just it was just a wonderful experiences in a great mood, and I was trying to why am I such a great mood? The game ended up not being that good. Clempson kicked their ass Alabama, that great offense, one of the greatest offenses in college football score three points the last three quarters. Junking. Why do I feel like this? Could you can imagine? I mean I was.

I thought Clemson did a great job everything, every position, every single position. They took an ingredient from every team that Alabama played and applied it to what they do well offensively and scheme the hell out of him now defensively. The zone blitz is that the disguising that being able to be predictable for Alabama to come out and go, We're gonna do what we do. This is our side of justice. Is how we run it. Clemson to them from the opening whistle. I turned it off in the

fourth quarter. I didn't see a whole lot of celebration to miss anything, but it was the two the two big guys inside were just disruptive all night long. And they try to run those little belly options and little things and they just blew everything up in there. And I mean, you know, I knew Clemson was a good football team. Uh you know, obviously they've been there for the last four years. But boy, I'll tell you what I mean. I thought that Alabama. I thought they're athletes,

would would would eventually take eventually take over. But Clemson, well, I'll tell you they just and and listen to Dabbo Sweeney after the game, the anti Nick, I mean he still I think I think it's I think his interview on the field was like about fifteen minutes to still be talking about fun for those He really does he

lost those players, Boohn. He matches talent pretty good, no doubt. Clemson, like, we looked at your talent across the board, and we actually like a lot of our matchups, like the Clemson wide receivers Clemson freshman quarterback. Yeah, well they had the kid, the number four, that receiver. I guess he was a guy that Nick really coveted. Nick was he and he slipped over to uh going over? Yeah. But I think Dabbo relishes in the fact that he plays that underdog

role no matter who they're playing. I'm with you on that behind, I'm with you on He goes, you know what, we're better than this football team. I went through every matchup. We're better. I'm a better coach, you're a better player, I guarantee. He tells him that. But but in public, I think he kind of yeah, he does. He plays that old country boy. Right, well, dag nab, I don't know. You know, I'm gonna bring my fellas out here and

hopefully because we got a chance. You know, the first thing you brought up after the game, I saw it this morning. So after the game, he says, yeah, all the talk was about one of the greatest college football teams. I knew that we're fifteen and know, but they were talking about Nick. So he took that time. He took that time to begin his recruiting process right then, right now, no question. Yeah, Alabama. Yeah, they're a great football team,

great football team. We're the first you know, what was it four touchdowns? We beat him by Yeah, beat him by by four touchdowns. So yeah, don't don't know. Don't get me wrong. He that that football team is loaded. Now you look at those two teams, look at Alabama Clemson, and how far behind everybody because you look at those semifinal games except maybe Georgia, Georgia, Georgia would be off e how State Michigan gotta be scratching their head a

little bit with we may have there. They're probably in the mindset on our best day, yeah, yeah, but on our best on our best day, and they've got a kind of they've gotta they gotta slip up a little bit, they've gotta they gotta make some mistakes out there. But I thought the coaching, though, made the difference. Clemson baited Alabama some throws that they knew in that blitz break off, the blitz break off that we used to run, and after a while everybody knew, like, guy over just coming,

we can't block him, run a quick out. They baited Clemson's corners. They didn't even budge. They got one of the judy on the outside of the fastest guys in the country. He played six yards off with his head right on the quarterback. His eyes were on the quarterback. The guy could have ran right by him, but he knew he wasn't going to. He stepped that and looked

that way. He didn't like. Then they run the run, the fake fake field goal, and that thing was like, surprise, I'm looking the guy that the defensive linement almost snapped. That guy snapped kicker almost snapped him in half when he brought him down. So yeah, it was. It was very impressive, really impressive by uh by Clemson. And you know what's funny, you watch that game. And you know, one side is loose, one side is having fun, and

obviously the score dictates that. But but you know, even on even on Alabama's if Alabama was winning, they wouldn't be as loose. And you know and and and his egg is active. Is that Clemson sideline was the semifinal games. If you'd have told me that was the score, I would have said, no, no way, correct. I think Alabama. I thought Alabama. You just said that it's gonna be blowout. It's gonna be a blowout, that someone's gonna win by four touchdowns. You go, Alabam right, Alabama? Right after it

was gonna be the other way. Alright, fellas, So that's gonna do it from the program, but a little better mood next, No, no, no, no. I like it when you when you're a little salty here. You know, you come in and bring some of that that radio dirt with you. You know that that that Buffalo game I was with you was a little bit of a punch in the stomach. Yeah it was. Well, look I I I still kind of believe that had had had that been a better played game and maybe you lost by

three or you beat one that game. We still have the same head coach here right now. I think that was just such a game. But I think he was teetering on it right there. But that that that game, that performance, that lack of performance, Um, it's just too too much, overlook a lot of money to be on that private plane coming back to South floor more Dan Marino. No, we were on the uh, Tom Guard, Finkel, Mike Tannonball and the owner piste Off in front of all those

security guys. I went up. I went up into the tunnel to get ready for the post game show with about six minutes left in the game, about six minutes left, So I walk up there and I'm standing waiting to go in, and there's a there's a little monitor so I could watch the watch what was going on the game.

And all of a sudden, the elevator opens up and here comes the crowd, right you know, Danny, Nat, Tom, Mr Ross, all the security guys, and I looked at their face and I went, oh, this isn't a good thing. Isn't a good thing? Serious? You know what? Meeting getting ready to I just felt like after the game, he was I see Steve Ross going you you you you you, and you on my plane. You're coming home. What about our luggage. We'll get it home. Don't worry. Don't worry.

You'll get your luggage, Get your ass on the plane. That'd be on comfortable, I feel I would. If they walked by me as I was going, I'm telling you what, I was standing right there when they walked by. I'm kind of trying to give him the like the lazy eye, you know, I'm kind of looking, but I'm kind of like letting it droop down little bit because I did that too. I looked and I saw pissed everybody was, and I kind of looked down at my sandwich, like

I've never seen the sandwich. I'm saying, I got my little clip works. They walked, they walked by, took my clip. Hey see what am I looking for here? Yeah? That was We're going to the principal's office and this is not you know, I gotta tell you. The only the only situation I've been in when in a staff situation like that was more uncomfortable than that was when we were coming back from London, uh, the day before they

let go Joe Philbin. Because we're coming through Heathrow Airport, which is a crowded, crowded airport, and we had to go through T s A. And she had those lines at zigzag So you'd walk by then, so you're kind of you're kind of coming from and everybody everybody knew, and and you'd walk back and here you're going, Hey, what's going on? Turn? Hey, look at look at there's gate fifty three over. That was the most awkward time

because the signal had already been by everybody. Yeah, the throw cutting the philbin was gone and he was still going through. And I was like, it was Joe, Hey, coach, I didn't say I didn't say I I I avoided I can you know he had his wife with him too, and you just well you talk about just an uncomfortable to thinking about. You're you're done as soon as we get offer. I tried to get to sleep as fast as possible on that airplane. Oh that's a bad feeling.

That store is a good way to end it right there. That's a good way to Our stories used to be about. Hey, man, you know when that game in the last minute. Now it's like man walking down that coach when he was getting well write a book on some of the awkward. That's it. Joe Rose, John con Jemmy, Kimbo Camper will be back next week on The Audible. Hope you enjoyed it. The Audible presented You are brought to you by Verizon

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