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The Audible Ep. 36 | Sylvester Williams

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Bo and John take a look at the Dolphins' dominating defensive effort against the New York Jets and catch up with new dolphins tackle Sylvester Williams (starts at 23:52). And also take a listen to the keys to this week's matchup with the Green Bay Packers.

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All right, audibles, It's a victory Monday. John feels great. It's been you know, two weeks back to back where it's you're just kind of waking up miserable. Two weeks it's brutal. I come over the game last week and I see my dog. I'll get away from here. Dogs years dropped down and stuff. But last night was able to come home and pet him on the head and

feel good. But uh, well, I tell that was you know, that was a dog fight out there yesterday, and and and you kind of knew early on because you could see because because you know, I was really happy when I was really happy about what's the way the defense came out and played from the get go. And I knew they were embarrassed from the two weeks before. And I knew that ten days off after that Thursday night game, they had a lot of work to get done. And

and I've been in those situations. I've been on teams like you've been on teams like that, where you have a bad loss or a couple of bad losses, and sometimes you just need to kind of let's let's take a step back, let's put this thing right back on the tracks, and let's get back to what was helping us but not lose games. And I think that's what I saw from this defense yesterday. I can almost see it from the end. And you know what, it struck me,

strow me. On the very first play they throw that a little pass out t J m McDonald comes up just stones knocked him backwards on that and left something out about. And then they threw another little pass and I think it was Kiko or somebody came up and did the same thing, stop the guy dead in his tracks. And then they end up with a three and out

punt and I'm going, oh, that's that's what. And then you just saw a defense that quite frankly as opposed to what we've seen the last couple of weeks, John, I think I don't think they did anything spectacular on defense, but they just did their jobs. You know, they know there's something yeah, just do do because the scheme of the defense relies on all eleven guys being in the right spot and seeing the same thing. And at some point, and as you mentioned, both of us were probably in

this situation. You watch film for a couple of weeks after losses, you're embarrassed. I mean, not only for yourself, but this is part of you know that his mistake is my mistake, and and it brings the whole unit down. So I think you know, they took a good, long hard look at what they were doing defensively, but more importantly, the players took a long hard look at what they were doing individually and said, this isn't good enough to win in any league. You know, they couldn't win any anywhere.

They were playing the last couple of weeks on defense, the way that teams were gouging them on the ground. So I was happy to see the aggressiveness. Like you said, at the beginning the onset of the game, they were going downhill. T J was around the line of scrimmage. He was the extra guy in the box. He was destroying guys all day, led the team in tackles. But most importantly, they were able to cause havoc in the pocket, which turned out to give us some turnovers. Four sacks,

four interceptions. I mean, those are the types of weeks that you dream about as a defense, And like you said in the beginning, in that game, you knew it was going to be the defense that was able to create the most stops turned the football over was gonna win because offense it was gonna be hard either. I mean, shoot, Sam Donald should have thrown six seven interceptions that day. Yeah, yeah, you had a couple that were dropped. A couple of drop had no doubt about it. Hey. This week's Audible

was presented by Deezer. Deezer is the Miami Dolphins official music streaming app. You can check out your favorite players playlist, cheerleaders playlist, game day playlists, and tons of great content. Try for free toa John. Why don't they mention I was just gonna playlist. I think they'd enjoy our players. There are a lot of people like my would like My playlist has no songs past. I think I may have.

I got a couple of nine outcast and one other song that other than that all pre nothing in your time was starting then with Steely Dan somewhere in there. Uh yeah, that's I'm starting a little Frank Sinatra, a lot of Martin in there for school, and then yeahs from Ohio. I have to do that for me, stepping Wolf in there or something. Bockman, Turner over, driving, rolling

windows down right. Stuff. You can find all that stuff at these are so be a be a big part of that and uh and help support them get getting back to the game though. Um but just it. Yeah, you know, I hate the feeling of driving out of that stadium after a win, so much different. You wave everybody, everybody that waves that, let people, let people go ahead of me, this traffic, who cares a thumbs up? I mean, it's such a different feeling because you know, everybody's happy,

the attendance, that work, that working hard rock. Everybody's kind of I hope you enjoyed your day. You know. The last couple of games are head down, dragging my bag behind me, kicking the door as I go out. Yeah. Anyway, let's you know the other thing Johnny is is And you know, look, fans, you know you like what you like, you don't like what you don't like this and that or whatever. Um, but you know, I'm just happy for

these guys. I'm happy for this football team to get And look, you know, the one thing you keep looking at and everyone keeps wanting to bury this football team. You know, you guys lost two straight, you're three and then you got two four and four, and you know, you guys, are you guys are on the downwards slide. Well, this team has never been below five hundred. Team's never been we've been at five hundred. But here we are

back at five and four. You're back in there. You know, you go up to uh, you go up to Green Bay, and look, Green Bay is not gonna be an easy situation by any stretching man. It's gonna be cold. You've got a four start fame quarterback, even you got a Hall of Fame quarterback, they're just coming off losses, two losses, and and so they're they're gonna be upsets. So it's

it's not gonna be an easy situation. But you know, if you can if you can go up there somehow and and and steal with because look, I think everyone everyone when you if you did the ws and l's and your and you look at Green Bay in November, you know you probably put a loss in that one. Yeah, that one's it was in sharpie, not in pencils in the beginning of no doubt about it. But but we gave one away to Detroit to Cincinnati. Detroit just beat

us Cincinnati. We gave one away to me. The Green Bay is one of those games where you can steal back and get even for the one you gave away in Cincinnati. Well, if you can get that win, and if you can get to win now you got a two. Now you're now you're two games above five, and you're now you're saying, Okay, jeez, we got Buffalo twice and were struggling football team. You got New England at home,

you got you got so there's some opportunities. So if you can get a win and get to you know, to to six and four moving forward with Buffalo coming in after the bye week, you're saying, oh, you know, hey, okay, hey, maybe let's let's let's get you know, but but but but when you talk to people with jeez, what's wrong with the Dolphins? I remember there're three and one. What's wrong with the dogs? What's wrong at three and one?

You know, well, you're happy at that point and you're facing a team, as you said in Green Bay, where you know, it didn't look like an attractive game when the schedule came out because you're looking at the time of the year, you're looking at the caliber of players and players and head coach and the whole atmosphere of lambeau Field. But watching him against New England on Monday Night Football. They suffered some significant injuries in that game,

and the blog went down. The linebacker went down, a skill player went down. So you're looking at a team that still has one of the best that ever played the game and Aaron Rodgers, but they may be somewhat depleted in terms of what they're gonna go into the game with on a shorter week. So the chances of Miami packing that defense the way they played on Sunday at home, I don't think you're gonna have to depend on, you know, four turnovers and four sacks, but they turn

the ball over four times. But they better pack a more The better pack an offense that executes with more consistency, that stays on the field on third down, that can finally make a play, you know, and not miss an opportunity for touchdowns when they arise. Because if you miss opportunities against Aaron Rodgers, you're always chasing. You're chasing the tail. You're chasing the tail all day. You know it's gonna

be come from behind. You can't do that. You can't do that against the caliber player like that because there's only about six or seven guys in the league that you when you face those quarterbacks, you know that you have to stay even or just a step ahead if you can, to have a chance in the fourth quarter. And you look at you you look at those the four sacks they got on Sam Donald. Sam Donald wasn't going anywhere right. I'm watching that game last night and

and it how guys are grabbing him. They've got his jersey and he's still getting away from getting out there and throwing. And you know it's you know that the thing with him. You know, there's a lot of quarterbacks you can say, hey, look, if you don't get up feeling contain, the quarterback will get out. This guy. It don't matter wherever there's a crease in there, he's gonna

find find it. And by time, you know what, he's got to come out through the front door and just kind of get that line and you know, you just get this vision. He's a nervous cat. But he's not a nervous cat because he's smoking the cools as he's doing it, okay, because he's moving around the pocket with such calmness, but it looks frazzled. But he's got a plan because he's anticipating the windows where he can get and he only needs to split second to kind of

flick it down the field forty yards. So that's when you look at Aaron Rodgers. He's got such a vivid imagination of being able to predetermine what's going to happen before it happens, but he doesn't force it. At the same token, he's able to, you know, be relaxed and find the open window and throw people open, which is

a great quality. But you know, the funny thing watching that game was, boy, just a contrast of the two quarterbacks, especially when New England coming out up tempo bang bang bang bang bang bang precision, and then all of a sudden you get Green Band. It becomes you're just that slow, methodical. And it's funny because I'm I didn't realize that. I you know, I knew, but it's one of those things you're kind of stuck in the back of your mind.

So they're going, okay, you know, and they're showing the coordinate and go oh in the corner Joe film like, oh there you go. I see slow and methodical. I see where slow and methodical came from for the Green Bay Packers. I forgot out there as well, be honest with you, and I'm going, jeez, man, look at green

look at look at New England. Bang bang bang bang bang, just you know, putting the pressure on the line of scrimmage, forcing the issue, not let them get Yeah, the one play the guys, guys are bending over picking up their mouthpiece and they weren't even me snapping the ball and and they couldn't get you know, what was going on. Then all of a sudden becomes you know, just said

it looked like a grind. It went from it went from being in a in a drag strip when watching like the Funny Cars go down to watching a tractor pool, you know. And if they had played that game at Lambo, I think it would have been a completely different story. You know, it had been Green Bay that had the precision, the aggressiveness, the tempo, and Brady would have had a struggle getting first downs on some you know, certain drives.

That being said about Aaron Rodgers though, this isn't the Green Bay team that that that the dominant, dominant because there's one guy dominating on that football team, and that's that's number twelve, and that's it really for the most part, Well, if you can create some pressure on Aaron Rodgers the way his knees been, do you get a good, good hit on him, if you can tackle me, and if it's a successful play for green Bay, if you get

some hits and you start getting to the quarterback. Those things were on a guy that has had some injuries. You know this season, we've I've seen it watching green Bay play this year where teams you know, you tackle him, he's slow to get up. He might not show at the next play. But those things can kind of wear

on you. And I'll tell you what, Yes Yesterday's was one of those Dames games where this team just scrapped and and you know the good thing, Johnny and the Jets made a couple of plays where they start threatening you down there, but by the defense just you know, they eliminated the explosive plays. I mean, how many how many plus twenty runs or US twenty passes that we've seen over the last two three weeks on this defense.

I mean, the Jets had a couple, but it wasn't like it was backbreaking, It wasn't like it was demoralizing. You always felt like this defense was gonna find a way off the field on third down, and we got back to the formula John, and you know, for the last few weeks we've had to talk about you know, early on, it was all about the defense, turnovers, takeaways.

I think at one point we had fourteen. It was huge goal line stops, you know, and you had a couple of yesterday, you know, in those kind of things, and you're kind of looking at that deep but then and then you got away from that and it was, well, what happened that defense? That was you know, it was turning the football over, you know, you know, intercepting passes and stuff as well. To me, it was pretty simple. You're not getting the pressure up front that you were getting.

And when you go back to those when you go back those early games when they were getting a lot, it was because they were getting pressure up front. Quarterbacks were having to get It was complimentary football. It was exactly what you want. The defensive line said the tone.

They limited the time in the pocket, which helped the linebacking corps in coverage, which ultimately helped a secondary, you know, have a step tighter coverage and if you're off as a quarterback just by you know, maybe a yard or two. The guys were in position to make plays on the football, and yesterday it was exactly that. And the good thing about yesterday bow we had edge pressure, but we had

pressure in the middle. There was nowhere for Sam Donald to step up and feel comfortable throwing the foot pocket in that pocket feel like a shrink wrap to him, because it just kept compressing on him until sometimes you could kind of you see an arm kind of come up and and throw the ball, and you know, but but again and and that kind of leads back to you know where we're talking about. In the last couple of weeks. Geez, you know you're not getting any sacks.

You're you're not getting turnover as well. You know, I'm waiting for some grey. We'll put two and two together. Well, there they go hand and got them both. You gotta get You really have to have one to get the other. You know, either you've got dbs that are they're playing so well back there that that it gives you time

for your defensive line to to get the sacks. But I'm with coach Gay when someone's talking about it goes, look, you don't need to you don't need to have a sack in order for a rush to be effective, and there was a lot You have the four sacks yesterday, which you also you have to get a lot of pressure. Rushes that didn't didn't create didn't turn into sacks, but they turned into on the other side. So you know, there there's there's different ways of getting it done, and

they got it done in both ways. Yesterday. I was really I was really happy the way the defense played along the line of scrimmage because that was the first time in a long time that they were able to push an offensive line in the backfield. They were able to be able to get penetration number one and number two finish. You know, it's it's one thing to get pressure,

but they are able to finish. You have to be able to finish a couple of times to get an opposing offense in second and sixteen, in third and eleven. You know, have those situations be in your favor instead of always being at third and four or less or third and six and less. I think that's why the Jets were two of thirteen. Now on the flip side,

the Dolphins three of sixteen on third down. Thank goodness, they were able to make enough plays and Frank Gore was able to you know, push the running game a little bit, and you know his accolades, you know, stand on their own. You know, Well that's that's what's my next step is. Okay, you know we we know this game was one on the on the heels of a defensive effort that was outstanding. Yesterday, I'm Kiko was all over the field again. Um, guys just playing playing well

out there, you know. And I think Bobby McCain is naturally every week he plays, you start to see him being back the guy. Look before you, guy, you know, you make a great point, But look at the way Cam Waite came back from injury. Took him a couple of weeks. It always takes a cut. You know, he's not gonna be you're coming back when they're and you gotta work your way back in Cam when he gets on a role. Throughout his career, it's always been in spurts.

You know, once he has those one or two sacks, then he's gonna have another sack and he's gonna have more pressures than he's gonna have a couple of tackles for loss. Those the way that in his career, that's the way it's gone. And for Bobby McCain, I think

it's gonna be the same thing. I think he's feeling. Now, Hey, I'm closer to a right now, I can make that play on the football and not lose my feet and not be on the ground and and be able to make the smart play that that the aggressive the you know that that quick twitch movement is closer to be in there now. So we're all kind of we're all kind of on board on the defense, kind of kind of control. Yes. Now the question is offensively, this is is it's it's it's not enough. It's it's not hundred

sixty four hundred sixty eight total yards of offense. Um. You you can do that against the Jets. You can you may be able to do that against Buffalo. You ain't doing that against Green Bay. No, the baby diaper is not going to pass on the road. So somebody way and you had Juwan go down and and you look grageously kind of fought back, got back into the game. Then Tuncil goes down. Um, I mean just think of

the offensive line. Number one, the guys that we brought in in the off season, both on I are you know, you've got Travis wantson. He's doing he just job job in the middle. You know, you've got Ted Larson, who was supposed to be the spot guy. You know, he was supposed to come in and ten eleven plays a game and be able to bounce back and forth from either side. He's a starter. And you know, you gotta feel bad for Zach because he comes into the game. He's on the right side to begin with, then he's

on the left side. But that's his job, you know. But that's his job. He's gotta be able. He'll be better for it the next opportunity if there is an opportunity to get in there and and look tough position to go in. But that that's the situation. Uh, they only have two guys active on that on that on that offensive line was it was Stirrup and it was Brendel who just became outside. Jay can't go outside. And you've got Jesse Davis who has been probably one of

the more consistent guys in there. And are some guys you're gonna kick Jesse out there, so you're gonna weaken two positions. We leave him where he is and get your guy. But what surprised me John was how long it took them to give stir Up any help. You know, you put him out chair tight end and and and he gets beat three times up the out and then

finally see him getting chipped. You know, like you know, I think everybody, everybody, everybody in the field that kind of knows football, everyone in the stadium was going to as soon as he goes in there, I go, you put a tight in over you put it because he needs help. I don't care what he needs help. And it took him a while, It took him. Jordan Jenkins getting to the quarterback when Hans right down and got right around the edge and and sax Brock Austwiler, that

was the wake up call. Yeah, it just surprised me that it took that long to to to make that adjustment out there. But you know, now you've got another week where you know, I don't you know, I know, Tunzil and uh Jan and Joan we're going in for m R. S early in the week on Monday, and so you know, we won't know the later in the week what's gonna happen with them. But boy, if you don't have one of those guys for that game, now, now that even compounds your your problems on offense, and

you need to find a way to resolve. Anytime you go on the road. The first thing you worry about his snap count. The first thing you worry about is being able to communicate. Those things will be an issue for a guy that hasn't played all season. That if he's expected to play three quarters, if he's expected to play the entire game with a silent count, you're all you're gonna count on two false starts, you know, if if you're if you're Green Bay thinking we've gotta be

able to affect the quarterback. We gotta get the crowd and he's gotta get him into it. So those are the things that's your immediate concern. And then secondly, being able to hold up, you know, being able to count on a guy that hasn't played really all year to play if he has to play for sixty minutes. Those are those are big concerns for the Dolphins, and you probably take the attitude that you go in like you're

facing the Chicago Bears. You know, you treat whoever is gonna be on the other side for Green Bay as as the best pass ussure. You're gonna see all years there that's their best guy and then deal with him is such exactly yeah, and no no doubt about it. Hey, you know we're I think we'renna talk to Sylvester Williams a little bit. Sylvester came here plays almost had a about I think he wants he's allobbing for half a sack.

He got into some action. Ziggy Hood made some plays out there, So he had a couple of guys out there, So you want to thank them for stepping in in a short time. I also want to thank our friends at Verizon Special thanks for Verising, the official wireless provider of the Miami Dolfense, who help us here on the on the audible. But nice to see those guys jump in and be able to uh to count on them to be counting and and it's gonna take some of that on the offensive side of the ball this week

to to to get the job done. So and look and make no mistake about it, it's a monumental task for this offensive coaching staff and players to be able to go up there and win that football game. You're gonna have to be in the twenties, I think to be have any chance to have any chance, because this defense is not going to pack four sacks and four turnovers. I hope they do, but it's gonna be very difficult to create turnovers and create pressure on Aaron Rodgers. So

that awesome you look Sunday night. And as much pressure as New England put on Aaron Rodgers in that first half, never got to send, never brought him down, and and half the time that he when he when he was when he was should have been sacked, almost sacked, he ends up, he ends up turned him into into first place. Yeah, that that that's not going to happen. I think when

you when you can't count on it. So the offense is gonna have to do better than a hundred and sixty eight total yards, better than three of sixteen on third down, which means they're gonna have to win on first and second down with more regularity so that they don't have to rely on a third down chance, you know, and they have to win field position and and make

him go the long way. They're gonna have success, but make him go the long way, don't give him the forty fifty sixty yard field and make it easier on the green Bay Pack, and look, they can do it. But but I think that I think the scenario for them to do it has got to be john And we've seen it with this football team now for for the last month or so. You know, you can do it. If you're second and six, second and four, second and five, third and two, third and three, they're not gonna do it.

They're not gonna do it with a steady diet of second and ten, third and elevens. You know they're gonna They're gonna have to. So there's because the less Aaron Rodgers is on the field the better. What does that mean? Frank Gore is gonna have to play a big role. And I believe Kenyan Drake at some point has to play a bigger role in the in the run game. Now, I know he's gonna catch it. Blage caught two passes

for seventeen yards. That was good to see. But you're gonna have to find a guy that turns the four or five and six yard run, and that's Kenyan Drake to be able to not count on a ten or twelve or fifteen play drive. You're gonna get eight play drive, nine play drive, ten play drive. But you're doing it

with more explosive plays in the running game. You just can't put yourself in those long second, long, third and longs because because if the Dolphins are living on second and third and longs next week, it's going to be a disaster. It's just gonna be. And so you know you and and I'm with you. Look, I've been a guy. I'm I'm was looking forward to seeing klein Blage and it was nice to see him yesterday. You got a wildcat.

Some places did wild nice playing the wild called back by a very very questionable holding caller Ted Larson, and that was a really nice nice play. And so I'm glad to see them incorporating him in because he's a big strong to take more than Yes, Frank Gore coming into this season was going to be the ancellary guy. He was gonna be, you know, the add on. He was gonna be Kenyan Drake running the football, and it

seems like it's totally flipped the script. So and now if you can add a Bellage that has fresh legs and that's a big back, as you point out, this gets huge as a running back. So if you can get incorporate those two guys and get more out of it. It takes a little bit of load off of Frank and let Frank do what he does. Hey, thanks, Sylvester Williams on his way. And so let's I know a big man here and he looks like one of those tough guys. So we'll uh so we'll we'll, we'll catch

up with him right here. Now you were here, Sylvester Williams, You've been here for a week and uh, a lot of action around here. Get a game. You got to just get a big win. So I think maybe maybe we should thank you for coming in to give us a little a little at North Carolina luck. They help us get over the top over the Jets this weekend. Yeah, man, I'm excited to be here. Obviously, we was able to come in and get a bit win. We needed that win.

We was right there and imagine that win kind of gave us a booth hope we can keep it going. How was it for you and Ziggy both come in kind of mid midweek last week, get ready for this football games, and you know it's just that that you know, they played the Thursday games a little extra time to kind of get the acclimated but you kind of get in here and then you get in the game, you're throwing the fire and you had twenty four snaps in

the game. So you just kind of jumped to kind of through you in the in the cold water and let's see if you can swim right. Oh yeah, man. When they when they brought us in, they told her, no, they we're gonna needed to play a lot on Sunday to be really, So we just tried to come in and we came in uh at night and study the plays and kind of get the Playboy down down packing,

then went on the packing game. Then we gotta try to bring the energy and work that to the group and and so we could be ready with Sunny and both you and you played a lot of downs in this league. So it's it's it's it's new terminology, it's this and that. But the defensive tackle. But I always said as a defensive linement, I said, there's only three things you gotta do. Either go straight right. There three good things, go straight right or left. The one thing

you can't do is go backwards. Other than that, that's all you need to know. Right, Yeah, you're pretty good to go. If you did Dame Man, and that was the kind of thing we wanted to do coming in, Like I said, just bring energy and and get those guys to breathe when needed one and just beat their phone. How does it feel to come in the situation like

that midweek? Is the game's going and everyone's you know, where everyone's got the baggage from what's been going on, and then the goods and the bad and all then and you kind of step right into the middle of it. And the next thing you know, you're you're you're putting the pads on and getting ready to go out for a football team with guys that most of them I would imagine by the time by game time either hadn't met her or just kind of seen and and didn't

know really who was who at some point. Yeah, I'm I think the good I know a few guys in the line ride and the King I was, you know right when the Carolina and King was in Denver with before I mean Detroit Woodhill and we came out together, so I kind was familiar with some of the guys, but just coming in and working hard. You know, when you work hard, you know a lot of guys they started game respect for you through your actions. And I think that's what me and Ziggy boats I dudes come in,

you know, without actions and ignored the outside noise. Ibviouls see what I'm saying. Outside a lot of outside noise for the Dolphins and by their self. You know, we're just a situation that had been in and also me personally being released last week. Whatever. I just you know, the outside noise and just come in and put my head down and go to work. Hey, you you went to do to Denver, Detroit or Denver? I'm sorry. In two thousand, Coach Gates was there? Did you have much

you know, I know he's an offensive guy. Did you have much dealings with him? I mean obviously you know, like I said, Coach Gates is a very very very social guy. Here players coach. So you know, you see him in the hallway, you chop it up with him, and and different then the day even you know, when I was playing against in my career, you know, just seeing him in on the field, then when he was just chicagoing here and seeing him on the field, you get a chance chopping up with him, and he that

type of guy. He definitely a players coach man and guys love to play for him, and that's why having the opportunity to coming and play form was exciting. You're you're in Detroit for a little while, then then you come over here. Um, we're excited to get this opportunity.

Obviously it's just a job. I mean, you get let go by Detroit and certainly you must have been excited to uh to go anywhere, but to come down to Miami or football team that's we're starting to bring build a tradition here and get back to being one of those teams. It's a constant threat to get in the postseason, sir. And see, I was decided and uh, like I said, man, let go from that situation. Obviously you know what it wasn't. I wasn't the happiest, but I felt like it's the

best thing for me at the time. And like I told me, and I wanted to go to the to uh a good situation and uh and attended. I thought was a fifth of me. I didn't just want to sign anywhere, but oh yeah, I'm at home and I kind of wanted to go to a suasion that I thought would fit me. And having an opportunity to come here and saw that they kind of needed help, but at the defensive tackle position. Uh, some debt and then also coach Gays and then also the scheme. You know,

it's kind of a chain of scheme for me. So I was kind of excited about it. And uh, you know coach kas you had mentioned you you knew him, so there's some you know, yeah, you know the guy, you kind of know what he's looking for, you know what kind of a little bit of a fiery guy out there too. Absolutely, man, absolutely gotta love plan for him though, because I say, you know, it's fun plan for guys that that that wants you to see it as bad as more than they want to see their

sex succeed. You know, he want those type of coaches. Hey, you you kind of had a you kind of had a you know, you look at guys in the National Football League and now the guy went to Michigan, it's going to Ohio State. Out of high school, you kind of went to a different route. You played one year in in high school football, you started one game. If you didn't get no one wanted you. And so you end up going to junior college and finally going under

North Carolina. How about that path. That was a that was a kind of a not the traditional path to get your way into the national football You eventually became a first round draft pick. So everything worked out right, but that that path had to be a very unique it was and what I tipped all the time. What was different for me was actually getting into corporate America, having a job. You know, when I got that job at that factory, because before the I was just on

fast food. I work in the Taco big backyd Burke, and then I worked at Walmart for a little bit. So getting the job at that factory was was really what kind of what kind of open minyed did you want to get back into football a little more? Yeah, Because graduated from high school, I'm like, okay, now it was time for real. You know, you gotta find an apartment. Can't live with your parents. We gotta find an apartment. And when I got that job, it's kind of I started.

I had so much time in mind because it was it wasn't a you know what I mean, you could communicate, It was just kind of a state. He worked in the station over and over and over and over again, so I had time to think and then I guy worked on my machine. My machine broke down, and guy was working on my machine. He had been there for like fourty some years and he was about to retire. And that's kind of when he took me and I said,

how long you've been? He said for some years? He by the tie, and I just kind of had a flash and I was like, I don't want to look up for the years and then still be here. Not that it was not wrong with it, but I just wanted something different, Like, and I decided, man to go back to school. And and Andre Simon, who was a basketball go from and said, man, you ought to try to play football to get him to pay for school.

And I'm like all right, And he said, well you probab, I gotta go to code because your grades so you can play it right away. I'm like all right. Kind of followed that path and I went downwards hard man, and everything started to come to life. Yeah. Yeah, And it's funny you're get in that situation. I kind of went through the same situation myself. But uh, you know, you you you kind of have a your hunger is

a little different because you've been down. You know, you've been down the rocky road, you know, and you're running you're getting this league and you know, I know you guys that you know they were rating there, they're getting recruited when they were juniors and they're going to these big schools and pop while you've been kind of you've been kind of digging in the dirt down there to

to get your scraps to get where you are. And so it's a it's a it's a strange way to get in the league, but hey, you're get in the league and and and let the chips fall where they may. After that, absolutely, well, what do you what are your expectations for the rest of this year with this football team, and and what do you want to accomplish? Um obviously you know it's a goal as a as a thirty two teams, thirty one teams obviously not out there, but

it's to get in the playoffs, man. And like I said, when youre get in the playoffs as a new season, but that's how number one go right now. And I'll start with the Green bad this week. And you know, really I just want to continue to play well on defense, continue to play well up front, and uh and bring energy, like I said, whatever they need me to do. You know, I'm here to contribute that obviously, what I'm saying, being in the winning situation many times, being able to win

it all, I know what to take. And I feel like, at the end of the day, if we could stay closer, you know, defense, we got a chance to anything. He's putting radios together eight to ten hours, right, Yeah, they do, man, do you? Uh you also grew up in a family where you had three older sisters. Yeah, you were your sisters dominating. Man. My uh, my older sister, she was very dominating. We bumped his all the time because she kind of was kind of left in control with my

father left and herd being my sister. I didn't really want to listen to it. You just so we bumped heads all the time every day pretty much. We had at least get us a scrabbling every day. And uh, she was bigger than me. Said she got the best at me. I always said, I got older, you know, but it was it was it was fun, man. I said. They would put hated me growing up, and then I started to become partaking with them, you know, once I became older. How is your time in North Carolina? Um?

And it was unbelievable. Like I said, it was crapted by the time, and nobody wants me to go to kind of. But when I stepped off the plane, they say, when you know, you know, And when I stapped on cameras, I knew where I wanted to go out of create USC George, Alabama. I kne why I want to go to North Carolina. So it was unbelievable that. Man, I had a great time. Now I was that for two years, was able to graduate. You know, I said, it was unbelievable.

You feel a little same way when you walked in here. Oh yeah, here, there's a place I need to be. Man, when I got out the plan, I came here and I've seen Coach Gates and had a sense talk something. I see it. Just try. I want to be well appreciate you. It's great having you here. Nice seeing you jump in the first week and get some some valuable snaps in there. But some make some plays out there, and I feeling you were close to a shack and they're gonna involved in that. I'm turn that in. I

need half. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on half. Get half as far as I'm consumed. Look, forward to having you around for the rest of your and appreciate your stopping by enjoining us, and uh and we'll catch up with you again another time. Man than appreciate all right, man,

that's a that's a big man right there, Sylvester. You know he's got you and here at the audible and nice guy is funny because we've kind of we kind of followed a similar path from you know, coming out of high school to get to the NFL, so I kind of there's a kind of a kinship with the guy. But you know, he's one of those guys. Now I've got these big beards, you know, and he's a big imposing guy with that beard and just go, oh man, it's and it turns out to be yeah, nice the

guys you want to go. So it's nice to nice. Look, it's funny you got him and uh him a ziggy hood. You're here for like five or six days and boom twenty four plays a piece. I think both played about the same. It's and and make some impact. Yeah, made some being backed out there you walking by these guys and you're normally we're here every day. We get to see these guys in practice at to see him in a lot locker room, get to see him at lunch.

We're just walking around the building, so you know everybody, and you know, I caught Ziggy one time and then I see Sylvester, Like, man, I don't know who those cats are, but I hope they're really good this week, you know, because the new faces coming in out because of injuries, and those guys end up playing big roles, big roles and did it did a good job? John. I think you know, we've kind of we've been talking about a lot of things, uh, you know, kind of

looked ahead a little bit to Green Bay. I've been talking a little bit about the Dolphins win. And the one thing we haven't kind of addressed to the eight pound gerrilla that's sitting in the room here, the situation with Rashad Jones um clearly After the game, Coach Gay said, I was asked the question what happened to Rashaw Jones, and he answered, he took himself out of the game. So that's heavily evidently what happened with with Rashaw Jones. The which which really is a tough thing to do

to your teammates. It's a in a game like that, and look, be one thing, if the game was if you were up by twenty five, you know, when you're kind of coasting through the game. But but this was a dog fight until really really until that wal Bacon. It wasn't yeah exactly, so it was still that game was still in jeopardy all the way through. And so it's one of those situations, um that you really don't want to see happen. First of all, because he's one

of your best players. He's a captain in your football team. He's a pro bowler, he's a guy who's done everything you've asked him to since he's been here. So it really goes out of character for uh, for Rashad in that situation. Good news is after the game, he goes up to Coach Gay's office. After the game, usually I'm drunk by that time. By that time, I'm stuffed. I'm talking about when I was playing stuff drunk out party in somewhere. I'm not thinking about going into Coach's office

by any stress the imagination. But you know, I have to wherewithal after the game to go up to to to Coach Gays's office, sit down with him, go over it coach Gays. I think he he and I he. I think he and and Rashad, you know, had that meeting where let me understand why what was behind your decision? And and and same with Rashad to coach Kase, Hey, what was behind your decision to have me sit out and and and do this? And so at least from from from Coach Gays his thoughts afterwards that they kind

of smooth things over. I think he and Rashad are probably good good you know, and but there's I'm sure there was some of that, Hey, I don't want to see this again. There's gotta be this can't happen. It can't happen. You can't do it to you. You can't. You can't pull yourself out of the game if you're not injured or you're not right. And I just think that when Coach Gaze looks at the defensive film, he said number one last week, I need to be more involved.

I need to get more involved because I made my bones when I was a young kid as a as a nobody, you know, learning under Nick Saban and learning defense. So it doesn't like he doesn't know what he's doing on that side of the football, but you have to be able to to correct and adjust on defense, and if it means moving personnel around, that's what it means to be successful for that game. Then you have to be able to perform and be asked to take a lesser or more of a role on your plate on

your plate, and I think that's exactly what happened. I think t J. McDonald was asked to do more in and around the line of scrimmage and make a Fitzpatrick played three or four different positions and somebody's got to take a lesser role in that game. And it just so happened to be your Pro Bowl safety. And I

don't think that Rishade took a liking to that. Now, whether that was communicated during the week at practice, whether that's the way they practiced, or it was a game time decision where this is what we need to do. You know, this is the this is the the offensive sets we're gonna face, and this is what the Jets are gonna do. We need to get to this and maybe it meant a lesser role for Rashad, but either way, at the end of the day, you cannot you cannot

take yourself off the football field. So if that was communicated through Adam Gaze and Rashad Jones on a Sunday night in his office, and it's and it's good with Matt Burke, and it's communicated between coaching and defensive coordinator. I just want to worry about winning. I don't care who plays win. I want to worry about winning. Whatever I need to do to make this team successful on that side of the ball, I'm gonna do. So maybe it's a different Now, this is a different game this week.

Put the Jets aside Green Bay Packers. You can better play coverage, and you better have a lot of guys that can't cover, and you better have that that secondary that's being disciplined and and doing what they're told to do and coach to do. That might play a little bit of a role in certain guys getting more playing time and certain guys playing at different positions on defense

this week. That's the way I see it. And look there there's there's more to this for Rashaw Jones because now he's got to sit down, or he had to sit down after speaking to coach Gaze the next day with Matt Burke and and to me, look, I have no insight into this. I I but you know, I'm like everyone else. I was surprised when he wasn't playing. I was surprised he took himself out of the game. But I mean kind of knowing being around the game, and I said, at some point there was a button

of the heads between Rashad and Matt Burke. Why am I not playing? Why? Dah? But when you kind of started looking and you started looking deeper beyond that confrontation or that decision, maybe I would say decision is probably right word, because I'm gonna kind of move to that is. You gotta look at you look at the situation here. You got a guy you drafted and Mica Fitzpatrick who's

playing as well as anybody on your defense. And he's not playing many plays, and yes he's multiple, he's a Swiss Army and I put him wherever you want to play. He's gonna play well for you. And so he's been one of their best defenders since he's played. But you're only playing him. I looked in the last couple played like twenty plays or something, but he's playing twenty very so so there's got to be that thought process. How do we get more Minka in the game. How do

we get him more reps? Well, if he's gonna get reps, they're gonna come from somebody, and and so I think they're in lies the rub there. But I can't argue with a football team because Rashad still he's still he's still got that shoulder he's dealing with and he's playing with it, and he's playing well, playing to the level you want to play. The last couple of weeks been an aberration to the next last couple of weeks. But you know, if the ideas get your best players on

the field's got to be on the field. Both of those guys want to do. But somebody is going to be short changed in this deal. And I think that to me, that kind of it was the crux of what started that whole. But if if that's gonna happen, you know that can't be the result for t J McDonald this week, even though he has an interception, he led the team and tackles against the Jets, he might sit down and slay or lesser role against the Green

Bay Packers. And he's the guy that has to be a pro about it and say, you know what this is my role this week. The Dolphins are asking me to perform this task this week. This is what I have to do. And the story, yeah, no doubt, And that's where they got to. And look, I think, look, I think this team, the character of this team, and I include the character of Rashad Jones, is strong enough that that this is not going to be a major situation by Wednesday, by Thursday. This is the thing. Yeah,

no doubt about it. And and I think we're shot. At some point has to address his teammates, whether it's just the defensive players. If I was him, i'd stand in front of the team meeting, address everybody, because even though it's a defensive situation, it affects those guys. It affects everybody in that football team, whether you're just whether you're a special team, whether you're the kicker, whether you're the holder, whether your long snapper, it affects you too.

Speaking of the kicker, he's pretty good. Well, i'll tell you what you talked about. You mentioned kicker Jason Sanders. What a oh my gosh, this guy was. He's missed one kick. Yeah, he's been he's been great. Yeah, And I mean he's had looked in a game like yesterday's game was a game where every one of those kicks he lined up for. You know, he's tightened up a little bit on those things. You know, I guarantee you I'm sure kind of around his neck mabe or whatever.

But I mean because every kick could have been could have could have was gonna either help you win or lose that hawk as well. Yeah, you know you gotta be able to well. And look at the kickoff. I think you know you look at the first half they started, they started the five eleven. It was like, I think I added it up. I was able to use my st. Thomas aquinas uh my degree there, I mad, I just wrote my graduation. I got by by. I never got to algebra. I just got the regular man. Just peruse

the members of Hey, that's kicking pretty good. All I know is when it got to algebra, the people around me better have been pretty good and and and really doing research and really for a game like yesterday where the offenses were struggling as much as they were, and you can give them that extra ten, twelve, fifteen yards that they've got to go to get in the end zone. Man, that's like that, that's that's big real estate right there. Yeah, I are kicking game and our special teams. Uh, yesterday

they leaned on him a lot. Yeah, no doubt about it, no doubt about it. So yeah, so a lot of good stuff there and and there was shod thing. It's nice to know, kind of get the idea of what was that, what was behind and and and then be done with your coach sitting there and he was asked, hey, well, well play this week, and no hesitation. Yes he will play this yes, And so that's uh. And they're gonna handle it internally, and that's the way it should be done, no doubt. But so now we get back to this

week and we get to the task at hand. Uh, and we we talked about we know what we know what it presents. We know what's Aaron Rodgers and and and everything that he's done. And their defense is susceptible. They've got injury problems like everybody else in the national foot alleague that they're dealing with. But John, there's also there's also a couple of there's also Graham. Yeah, there's Jimmy Graham. You know, there's a guy named Randall Cobb.

And you have to be and there's also lambeau Field, and there's a if you don't believe there's a mystique to to lambeau Field, you've never been there, because that is a that is a that's a that's a very unique place to play. And look, it's gonna be you're gonna play at one o'clock. Now you're gonna play, and it's it's gonna be chilly because it's there there they're expect I think, right, I look the other day or

someone your packing. I I didn't because I I wait until you You wait until the morning of plan my packing at that time whatever makes it. And somebody somebody said, hey, I looked it up and there and they're expecting um somewhere between the mid thirties to forty something. So if you're playing at four thirty, though, that means your game is gonna play until seven thirty and it's gonna be

a little cold. And so there's another thing that you got to deal with is the climate there, along with the fact that you've got an offense that's kind of sputtering, running on on four cylinders instead eight. Going on to two losses, they have playmakers. We talked about Cob We talked about Graham. You know, they also got uh, Davante Adams. You know that that's a really good player. I just think that it's one of those games where it wasn't

winnable two or three months ago. But if if you feel like you're you know, you're come in with a little bit more confidence than you've had over the past month. There's a chance. You know, the Green Bay Packers have suffered a bunch of losses, uh, and a bunch of injuries, and they didn't expect to be in the position they're in right now. I just suffered an injury. I just pulled a muscle. What happened? I my our our producer, Jeff. Jeff just told me that he showed me that today.

What's the thirty three high low today? That's oh, as of today, they're expect thirty three as a high is a high? Oh that's good, Hey boy. I just hope you guys have a safe trip and pack accordingly. The day you're leaving, I might be doing the sideline from the booth, you know, Hey, from More, Hey, let's go, let's go camera telling down here fellas from More. I'm sitting this is pretty good, not as a chili down

here as chili as I expect it. That reminds me one time I was caddying pasting napkin, I got little mustard on. I was caddying for Dan Marino in Austin, Texas. Right, so we're going to this tournament and uh, we're about you know, sixteen seventeen, eighteenth hole when I was getting hungry, So you know, I walk over and get a hot dog, and we had carts so I can bring it back to the cart. Got whatever for damn, got us a couple of beers. We're gonna go down and finish the course.

Finished the tournament. So it's about the seventeenth hold. I'm sitting there and I'm sitting in in the in the car, and Danny's out there trying to figure out wind and yards and stuff, and I'm sitting alright. So he goes up, Hey, Johnny boy, what we got here? He goes. I said, well, from where I'm sitting, it's a hundred thirty two yards and you got a little win right to lift. He goes, you think you're fat asking, get out of the car and just give me the correct yard. And I thought

you're gonna say. I thought you're gonna say, hey, Johnny, what do you have? What do we have here? He says, well mustard relish, I don't know I'm talking about. Can you wipe this mustard off? My grip? Not lost on me as the fact that you were the cat you were caddying, which weren't carrying the sack. Oh no, no, I was in the cart. The cart. It was a three day event. It was a clause that you're the clase, I caddy. We were out of contention. It was just

right perusing the course in the cart. Uh. Well, I don't know, it's gonna be cold. And another fact that they got to deal with. But hey, look this is one of like it's a national football and you never know what's gonna happen, and you kind of backs up against the wall here with these guys, just with all the with everything that you're facing here. But stranger things have happened. Can you put it together one more time for sixty minutes? Get to the bye week at six

and four? I mean that would be enormous for this team. And look, I think this team. I think this team, this this last game, um, learn something, you know, you you You know, you get in those situations where I know how I played and I know how I reacted in those two really crappy losses that we had, and then I know how I felt and how I played and how I reacted in this winning game where where? And it doesn't take that much to get from game

to good games. And I think they saw so. So I think they carry that with them too, certainly on the defensive side of the football. But their challenge has become tenfold this week compared to last week against the Jets. With with the guy they're playing, every game sets up a different set of circumstances on how you can win and how you can lose. You know, I was going into the Jets game and it was gonna be ugly, nasty, sloppy. Uh, you know, a lot of punts, a lot of field position.

How are we gonna grind this game out? Because it always seems that way with the Jets. Now, when you're going against the Green Bay Packers, you're talking about better efficiency at a higher level, more consistency. Can you stack back to back to back positive plays together? On offense? Can you just hold the Packers to a field goal

instead of getting them six points on certain drives. That way, you're still in a football game, or maybe if you have the lead, you keep the lead instead of getting tired or getting you know, a score or two behind. Different dynamic this week than it was last week in the style of play, and the more efficient you're gonna have to be on the road. Yeah, you know, one thing is not going to change though. Listening to this

podcast still can get it, you know. And I've been kind of looking at Apple Music, you know, I I was. I went on Apple Music because I want to kind of look around to see where the podcasts. Right, were you looking for Joe? Who are you looking for? Looking for Joe Rose? But I knew that chance. But anyway, so I'm looking around on on Apple Music. You know, I actually saw I actually actually has to a hip hop song that I was considering putting on my d's

or playlist. And then I listened to it. Am I go, Now, I'm not gonna do it. So but I be least I kind of saw some other stuff. This might tantalize me in my musical taste. Dolphins dot Com, Miami Dolphins mobile app, tune in radio, all those places are good if you want to check out these uh this podcasts each and every week and John, how many times? How many? How many times? I don't long. I have been doing this podcast now a few months now, much right, three months?

And I hate, I hate to admit I still don't know what a podcast is. I know we do one. I know we do one, but I don't know, you know, I see everybody, a lot of people trying to pub their podcast podcast. I'm just glad we're out there. I'm just podcast world. Yes, I'm We're in the we're in the ring. We're in the podcast community, right, We're part of that podcast community. There it is right now. Listen now Episode thirty five mid season review episodes were enough?

Are you kidding me? Episodes A lot? You know what? You know? What's funny about that? We've done forty six? Yeah, but but he'll be back and remember This week's audible presented by Deezer Deezers. In Miami Dolphins official music streaming app, you can check out your favorite players playlist, cheerleaders playlist, game day playlist, tons of great content. You can try it for free today. That's gonna do it for today. Next time

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