I thought about podcast. We're here a second time out. This is we're gonna call this audible podcast Season one episode to Kimbo Camper, Joe Rose, John Conjemmy with us. And since our last podcast dropped last week, been a lot of stuff going on. Me and Joe were on a cruise. By the way, I heard MSc Seaside Joe and I when we we took our sea legs and went out on the MSc Beautiful Cruise, beautiful boat out there the seaside went to the Bahamas um seven day cruise.
Joe and I got off after three days. We went to St. Thomas and flew home. So we can get that way to do it. Though, you guys are dedicated. We were thinking about standing, but most of the people in the cruise go. Get rid of those assholes. Now I'm tired of hearing them, I'm tired of seeing them. I'm just gonna say, you had to wear the jerseys. You know what I'm gonna ask. You know, I got one night, the second night we're there, we're gonna go
take pictures. We gotta wear jerseys. I thought it was dress up night, so I put a nice share on a pair of slacks there, I slipped that jersey off. For about two hours of taking pictures, I took that shirt off. You could see my hairy ass back right through my shirt. It was one of the biggest massive sweat. He must lost five pounds. And by the way, night boy went right down to the bar after they refill up a little bit of those coupons. You're daring, right,
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we'll get to those questions. But a lot of stuff going on, Joe, uh and John this year and and this this week. You know, last week was an active week in free agency. That that that that that that waterfall, that that that that the tsunami of free agent signings and stuff is dried to a trickle. Now, well, there's so much going on right and think about last week, why we're doing this, why we're doing this thing, taping this.
We we get a new center, we get a new guard signed, and we lose our old center who's now with the San Diego Chargers, Mike Pouncey. That all happened within Yeah, that was with us. It happened within an hour or two when we're doing the podcast, it popped up. And so so Mike, Mike Pouncy, a guy that I think he's universally uh really loved in this franchise and liked on this team. Uh. He he makes the move, he goes out and gets a new job with the Sandy or the l A Chargers. He's out in l A. Uh.
We get Daniel Kilgore from the San Francisco forty Ninersoe who the forty Niners are just signed h a month ago, a month ago to a nice contract, and so you know he's not a guy they were ready to dump off to kick off board. Uh, they just happened to get another player. He became available, and the guys upstairs jumped all over that. Yeah, they're talking about him if if he didn't play, center's gonna be the backup center and moved the guard. But they really liked him in
that package. And I just want to say this about Mike Pouncey because talked about it on the radio as well as how about Mike and what he was able to get from the charge at surprise, I didn't know how the physical is gonna go with the hip problems he's had, but he got ten million guaranteed and taking more money. Now. Yeah, and you know, I'm good friend. I'm with Joe. I'm going man, you know, because look,
I like Mike. Mike has been nothing but great. And Joe, You've been in the same situation whenever we've needed Mike for a charity event or anything. Always they're always first and foremost, always does the right thing. And so I have a lot of admiration from Mike Pouncey. Uh And and I'm glad he found a job out there. But I was worried that, you know, with this hip thing, all the procedures he's gone, the question can you practice or not. I thought it was gonna be tough for
him to get a job. But the Chargers evidently did their homework, went and say hey, hey, said, hey, you made it last year. They must have a game plan for him. And this is Mike Pouncey's healthy. He pretty damn good. There's a road map out there for how to treat Mike Pouncy going forward. And the Miami Dolphins did that last year. You got sixteen games out of Mike Pouncing. Now did that hurt any synergy. Not practicing
weekend in week out. Did that hurt a young offensive line that was going through a lot of issues, Maybe, but it sure helped one guy in the middle. You know, it's a Pro Bowl center. When he's at his best, he's a nasty individual that can get out in front of stuff. So hey, the Chargers went through their evaluation, they felt like they could sign him. They paid him a lot of money. Two years down the line, let's see how it goes. But for what Mike gave to
this organization, all you can say is thank you. And the good thing is, we gotta we gotta starting we gotta starting center and started a lot of games for the forty Niners come here and then they go out and get Josh Sitton, who played for the Green Bay Packers, played for the Chicago Bears, multi time Pro Bowler, an All Pro player, a guy that comes in and it should solidify that guard on the left side next to Laramy Tunsil, and all of a sudden, offensive line you know,
you know what was what? It was a question, a big question mark about two weeks ago, all of a sudden, you're looking at you bring Jown James back. If you can get him playing the level you want. Hey, it might not be a very bad my money might not be a bad mix of guys to start to see a solid group. Man, You've got some really good veterans.
I I like the group too. I think it's a better offensive line right now than it was a year ago when we were trying to figure out who is gonna win all these different battles at guard and everything else with guys injured. Right now, on paper, that offensive line with with Jesse Davis potentially starter. Or you go
out and you maybe signed Sam Young again. You still got Larsen around, You've got a lot of option you you've increased your your quality of play at the at the at the starting spot, and you've increased increased your depth, which we've seen over the years. You need that offensive line is of most important. Some other news here in the program to uh de Marco Murray uh from the Titans. Dolphins worked him out. Not sure what the outcome of
that is. And also it looks like Baker Mayfield is being reported that is going to get a private workout with the Dolphins and somewhere sometime uh that that may happen. So obviously the Dolphins still in line looking for a quarterback. But the New York Jets may have thrown the biggest monkey wrench in the in the draft out there when they traded to move up to the third pick. Certainly's gonna affect what the Dolphins do when it comes to eleven.
And boy, I'll tell you what if there was a team that thought they were in a pretty good position with when it came to a quarterback with the Buffalo Bills, and all of a sudden, now they might be sucking high and tent with these guys behind the corner, and think about the Bills moved up and we're feeling pretty good. And then the Jets jump up a couple of spots to three. The Bills know that if they're gonna get into this, I still think they can jump up. They're
gonna have to give up a lot of picks. And by the way, they got a lot. They got two ones, two twos, and two threes. And then you can throw in future picks as well. They may have to. Well, speaking of free agency and all the guys that are coming going, the guy that's pulling the trigger on this besides Chris Greer, is the executive vice president of football Operations, Mike Tannebaum had a chance to catch up with him joining us now Mike Tannebaum the executive vice president of
football Operations and Mike, uh got nothing to do these days? Huh. Hasn't been much going on in the last couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah, it's been hectic, but it's been I think really good for the organization. Um. You know, we've had a lot of strech tch meets with Steve Ross, our owner, coach, gaze Chrisker, our GM and you know, look, we went six and ten and six and ten wasn't good enough for anybody, and uh, it starts with us, and you know, we felt like it was a great opportunity. You know,
that's the word we keep using. We have an opportunity to get better. Um. With that, you have to make hard decisions, and sometimes players move on that have contributed and help get the program going. But um, you know, our charge is still to do what's best for the organization. And you know we've made some of those decisions all with the view of what's best for us and and
moving forward and we're we're excited about the direction we're going. Well, let's take a few steps back, Mike and kind of go through the process here of of where we're at now and what's going to be coming up with the draft and everything. And I always look at the guys like yourself, Chris Career, the general manager, mostly organizations in the now. You guys are always looking into the future. You guys are two, three, four steps ahead of what's
going on with the season. And when you start going through the free agent stuff, including your guy and guys that are out there that you may be interested in, when does that research, When does all that stuff take place so that when it comes time when the gates open, that that you're ready to make the break out of the gates. Yeah, I mean it really goes back probably
several years to be candid. You know, you signed guys like Ryan Tannhill to an extension or guys like Kiko Alonso, and it's all for trying to plan proactively literally, like you go out a couple of years to try to keep your nucleus together and you try to project cat numbers and brand insure who heads up our contract negotiations does a great job, and we try to put a big picture plan of like hey, who can we keep and and who you know maybe too costly? Where do
we have to draft? And then you know you can talk about free agency, Kim. You know, the first means we're back in December. You know, it's fight with scouting, like you're talking about a guy you're really interested, it sounds great. And then science an extension was on team all right, crossing, and so it's really a process that goes on. And like you said, I know, the coaches are in the here and the now and we're you know, curtainly trying and do as much strategic planning as possible.
I would like to know, Mike, and I'm sure fans would like to know how much different is the process for free agency compared to when you're getting into the draft, because it seems like they're both fluid. But yet, like you said, the meeting started for free agency in December.
I'm sure the draft kind of goes year round as you're evaluating different positions and different players, right, yeah, John, Um, So the two thousand eighteen draft preparations started last May when Chris took you know, most of the scouts and went to the national meetings where we get like the initial list for the following year, and like for us, we're adding players the whole year and look, unfortunately we had the injury. You know, J. Cutler was signed in August.
But that's just illustrative of like the offseason sometimes like a tiebreaker for us in terms of like, hey, when we're gonna sign a player in free agency, maybe like well if we hit pause here, we think it's pretty deep in the draft. And again, you know it's there an exact science, so they are both fluid. John, I think that's a great way to put it, and we just try taking as much information as possible. And then with that said, we also try to be opportunistic. And
a good example that was a J. Derby. So A J. Derby was on the waiver wire back in the fall. We were able to claim him and he's a guy that you know, we think can really contribute this year. You know, that may make the difference between you know, signing another player. Yeah, exactly. So again that's just a lutionship of the fact that you know, this goes on
the whole offseason. You so at just points with free agency going on, certainly that's what's at the forefront right now with the draft following soon behind does the draft you put on the shelf for a little bit right now, as far as probably you and Chris, I'm sure your college scouts guys are still doing their stuff, but from your standpoint, let's put this on the shelf. Let's get through this period of a couple of weeks, and then we'll bring that back down and refine our focus back
on that again. Yeah, they both actually go on. Um, so you know Pro days are going on. We're covering those. You know, we try to watch you know games, you know when we can. You know, it's there's a lot going on though, you know, a lot of a lot of moving parts this time of year. But we have the scouts coming back in, you know, in another ten days, and um, the draft will be here before we know it. Let's talk about some of the guys in free agency.
There are a lot of them around the NFL, not only with the Miami Dolphins, but when you focus in on what we're concerned about a lot of key signings. You get Albert Wilson, you get Danny Amndola at the slop position. Uh, you get a couple of linemen and sitting and kill Gore, Robert Quinn comes over in a trade before free agency. So there's a lot of interesting parts to this team, a lot of new faces that
are gonna hopefully build upon what's what's left in the building. Yeah, and uh yeah, just we could touch on these guys. You know, we wanted to bring in guys that were accomplished. We had a number of guys that playing the Super Bowl and sitting at Amadola had actually won Super Bowls that that was important to us. But you know, starting with Amadola, obviously he was a guy that we struggled defending for a number of years, a very talented and productive,
you know, slot receiver. Obviously, with Jarvis Landry moving on, that was gonna be a need. And you know, Jarvis was obviously super productive for us and played well here for a number of years. Um, so we felt fortunate to get Danny Um. You know, in terms of Albert Wilson, maybe not a household name, but he's young, he's fast, he's ascending, he's versatile, he could play inside it out. It will be a lot of fun to see how
the coaches use him. And again that's a position where the way we'd like to play, like having depth of that position is really important. So to King Grant's coming back and he stills back to pante Parkins coming back like that. That group is one that you know, you always feel like you can't have enough depth. It gives you flexibility terms of formations, in terms of what Adam
wants to do offensively. Uh, you can play with the tight end and some of the times you might not with his many guys we have that play at a high level. That's right. Like you talked about some of the guys with some of the guys that have gone. You talked about Jarvis and Dominican Sue, Mike pouncey. Um, those are moves that I'm assuming you you don't take lightly. Um,
how does that conversation? Who's involved in that conversation? When when you look at these guys and there's look like every like anything you do in life, whatever you do, there's certain things you do well, there's certain things you don't. Sue do well. Does this over overcome this? Does that overcome that? How do you guys go through that evaluation on somebody that you know extremely well? It's been productive for you, They're quite Frankie might look at you, I
like this guy like the way he plays. I like the way he does this, but right now, for whatever reason, whether it's financial, whether it's something else, it's just not the right fit for where we want to go. Uh, that's gotta be a pretty that's gotta be a pretty uh difficult conversation we have with those guys. Some guys pretty easy. Yeah, this guy's kind of you know, he's
run his course, would go. But guys like that who are key players and going to be key players somewhere else, it's gonna be a tough decision for you guys to uh to to work through. Yeah, yeah, no question. Steve Kerr so and I've had the pro game to know pretty well. You know, he talked about it from a player and coach standpoint. He goes, you know, the great parts of these jobs you do for free. You know, when you play in an arena, everyone's cheering for you.
You do do those things for free. You get paid all that money when it comes to the responsibility of hey, a player gets traded, like those hard conversation that that's that's what you get paid to do. Like And I was thought that was like great context. And Mike Palency and Dominan, Sue, Jarvis Landry. You know, those were guys that were productive here. A couple of those guys were drafted here, played a long time, Mike and Jarvis in particular.
You know, we're here for a long time. Played hurt helped us get to the playoffs two years ago, and we have a lot of respect for what they accomplished. With that said, we have to make decisions that's best for us, and we know sometimes they're not gonna be the most popular decisions. But as you mentioned earlier, John, like sometimes you have to look at, hey, where you're gonna be in six months, where you're gonna be in a year, um, And what can we get to replace
the player? What resources are gonna have to be allocated, And these are really really hard decisions and communicating those decisions are hard. And I always say to myself, like that's okay, you know, like when you make those calls and it hurts, like you know, we're humans, Like we're making decisions as professionals and we've got to make the right decision, but as human being, like sometimes those those
are hard conversations to have. We always talk about like the labor Day weekend, you know when your roster gets cut down, like, those are difficult conversations to have. Unfortunately, that's part of the business. And you know, the fans certainly, they're they're they're all over this thing. And and you can find yourself in an in a no win situation and give him Dominan sue because I've heard this conversation
over and over again. Geez, you know, Dominican sue. Great player, Uh, paying too much money for that position, blah blah blah, this and that and this and that, and then the moment that you let him go, jeez, he's our mess player him. What are we doing? I mean, so it's you know, I think, but but I mean, look, look, fans are fans and and and they love the team and they want to support the team and this and that, and they embrace guys that are here, but sometimes they're disgruntled.
But then when they leave on well, why are you getting I don't envy the position you're in sometimes because quite frankly, it really is a knowing situation until six months down the road when you find out that, hey, you know what, those are pretty good moves now, but you know it's a knee jerk kind of a situation. It's a knee knee jerk world that we live in
in this environment. Yeah, and one thing I would like to add guys to this conversation, which is, you know, we have a ninety man roster right now, we're talking about five six seventy players. The greatest improvement our team will have this year is from the players that are in the building that will get you get coached and developed. And there's a lot of unsung stories that will come out, you know, when we get to training camp and the improvement.
Like so, if we were sitting here a year ago, we would say, well, Xavian Howard boy, you know, he flashed them, but we really don't know. Well, yeah, we felt really good and and and and Xavians a piece of our team that should be foundationally here for a long time. And there's a couple of guys that we feel, in particular, have a chance to really take the next step.
And that's maybe hard to explain in March, but when we put the pads on in August, you know where you know, we're encourage where the trajectory of some of these young players are going. And those are our factors because you've got to fill a lot of these needs from within. That's the only way to have sustainability in our system. And that leads me to a question that in a title in Miami Dolphins tender three exclusive rights free agents. So a couple of days ago, Mike call,
Jake Brendall, Jordan Lucas. What does that mean, Mike, exclusive right free agents? And how you keep those guys? How how you offer them or protect from others? Yeah, yeah, no, it's a great question. So base Lee, Uh, that's what we're simp fire things. But like three big buckets of players,
so unrestricted free agency. So that's the player that's been the league for four more seasons whose contract has expired to go to the market restricted free agent, and someone who has three accrued seasons who their contract has expiring, and we could put a tender on them depending on what round they've you know, came in, or you can actually enhance a tender depending on how the value. Yeah, exactly.
And then if a player has been the league has less than three accrued seasons but his contract has expired, you could keep him basically at his minimum, but you have to tender him. And that's what we did with those three guys, and in talking about building within, he's one of those guys you resigned Walt Aikin's you get William Hayes back. So you've got to keep that nucleus because it's just not all free agency or the draft. You have to build your team from the roster that
you have from last season. Yeah, and again, you know Iffi Hunt our pro personel director. He does a great job. And again, when you pick up a guy like a J. Derby, it's not a household name, it's not a huge but you know he's going to serve a role, and that's a role. That's one less resource we have to go pick, you know, in the draft or sign in free agency.
And again it really takes like the whole year in terms of the approach of like claiming players, signing players late, and then you know, try to keep them, you know, for as long as you can, as long as it's you know, makes sense. And guys like that, you know, I would think the coaching staff and the scouts and your personnel that report to you did a really good job finding a guy like that because he he was
inserted right away into the lineup last year. You know, he's he's on the fast track to learn the offense, he gets put in games, and he's at a position where everybody's focusing at. Well, maybe we need a tight end in free agency, maybe we need a tight end in the draft, and maybe there's a guy there later on. But when you have confidence in a guy like a
j Derby who's proven it elsewhere. I think he was in New England and he was in Denver potentially came to us, you have confidence and maybe the fan doesn't realize he's on your roster already. That's right now exactly. You know, Jesse Davis is another guy. Jesse has a great future with us. And you know, again, you just can't go out there and say, hey, where you go get spent all this money on guards? Like you know, Jesse was a guy that you know, we were able
to sign um. He was kind of under the radar and then he was on a practice squad. We got him. Uh, he had to try out, and he's he has a great future with us, great flexibility, yes, yeah, tackle guard flex and uh, you know again another maybe not a household name, but by the time we get to August September,
you know, I think Jesse Davis will be yeah, that's right. Sure, I'm assuming you go you go into free agency with a roadmap, um and and that roadmap as soon as the bell ringing, that roadmap starts changing and this guy's gone, that guy's available, this guy's that um and then that's gotta be uh. I mean, I mean that that's gotta be a minute by minute, hour by hour, uh, constant job of keeping up with. And a good example is a is a kid from uh that you got from
San Francisco killed. Here's the guy that just kind of popped up because they went out and got they went out and paid for another center. Here is a guy that they had just given a contract to that's available out there. And so that that quick change creates opportunities or can put you in in a bad situation based on your guys. You know that someone goes out and and makes a play for that, then maybe you didn't quite expect. That's Kim. That is incredibly well said. You know,
going back a couple of weeks before that. You know, if we sat here in January and you guys would say that Robert Quinn and Daniel Kilgore would be you know, like you guys are crazy, especially in Kilgore's case. You sign an extension with with San Francisco a month ago. So one of the things we're always preaching is we need flexibility, flexibility, flexibility. So having that flexibility allows to go get Quinn, you know, young pass Rusher under contract
for the next couple of years. Those guys are impossible to find, and we were like, wow, this is a great opportunity for us. Guy like Kilgore. We get a text, you know, Kim you talking about Then in mind minute, we get a text, it was late late at night saying, hey, we just got you know, another center Western rich Burg. Uh, this guy is unexpectedly available. You know, what are your thoughts?
So Chris and I scramble quickly get together, look at it. Um, you know, we're trying to talk to you know, Josh Sitton, and it kind of all all the pieces, you know, you try to put them together and make the best decisions. And then likewise, you know, guys that we have, you know, are gonna take visits and sign other places. You know, Corode Parky signs a contract with Chicago and you know, we thank him for last year, and you know, now we've gotta move on to the you know, the next kicker. Mike.
You talk about flexibility in terms of being able to make decisions, like you said, in the middle of the night, somebody gives you a text and you're trying to make and evaluate and an educated decision. But what happens with flexibility when you have guys on the roster and you're going to Rashad Jones, You're going to Ryan Tanniel and say, hey, guys, we need to tweak something because it's gonna give us more flexibility to make our team better. How does that
process work? Because I think the fan doesn't really know how that works, right, So that's all part of a longer term plan in terms of like how dollars are counted, either like in a basel or you can parade it out which would lower your cap number for this year and added in future years. And so we're very careful how we do that because we have certain sort of like, um, we kind of put like I would say, like kind of check marks and like baselines of where we want
to be in terms of dollars. So we always have flexibility, and that's something we always talk about is making sure that we don't have too many cap charges in any one year, and we try to balance it out. So again, if you look at our cap situation last year for this year, people will be like, oh, that could be tight. And we knew there was gonna be certain opportunities and that's why you know we're sitting here able to you know,
go get yeah, and go get Robert Quinn. Right. Likewise, you know, for next year, we've already kind of built in like, Okay, here's what we think is gonna happen. This player's contract is gonna be up that, you know, and start looking at those variables and candidly, like even in the draft, like hey, if we get this player, he can sit on the bench for a year and then he has to go in and play, you know, And you see that all the time, you know, around
the league in terms of you know, draft choices. Sometimes you know they're not evaluated, you know, publicly, because you know, play in year one, all of a sudden, the guy in front of them leaves to become a free agent. Now, yeah, that's right. Speaking of the draft, you know, when you kind of go through the the free agent process, when it's all said and done and you know, it becomes a trickle rather than a you know, a flood of free agents out there, and you kind of start going
back to the draft. Does your draft board change based on, hey, look we filled this new you know that we got a center, we've got a guard. We feel like we've got a center. We feel like we've got a guard. We feel like we found this position. Um. Does that does your does your your draft board become a little
more fluid at that point? Yeah? So you know, philosophically, you know, you want to leave the grades the way they are, and Chris and I talked about that all time, and Chris has a fantastic job, but you know, like we want to give them the grades that they deserve. The coaches getting involved this time of year, of course,
we want to get their thoughts and views on things. Um. But I think to your question, Kim, like it does affect your strategy and look, in a perfect world, if you want to take the highest rated guy and a position and need but to be you know, like I always like to say, if it's close or the tiebreaker is going to be based on need, but you know you're not gonna take a third round tight end over a first round guard because you need a tight end.
Like that's just not you know that that doesn't make a lot of sense, but you do want to use it as a tidebreaker. And those are you know, the conversations will be having like for the next month for sure. Like one of one of the things the words that uh that it has been floated around since free agency was culture. You know, change of culture, change of things. And and I you know, at least when I try
to to to kind of figure out what that is. Um, it's funny because I was with I was with Larry's uncle last week and talking to him about some stuff, and he said, he said, you know, you know what what makes a winning team? When you get players where winning football games is more important than how much money they make, then you've got something going for you. Is that kind of where you're looking at when you talk
about culture change? Give me those guys you just love to play football, that want to be out here and then have the philosophy that to me, I think is a philosophy. Look, let me just go and play the best I can and if I play good enough, the money's gonna follow me. Right that that will take care of its own self, right. Yeah, Well, a couple of thoughts. You know. First of all, like I think there is
a good foundation here. You know, we want ten games, you know, with with this coach, with this quarterback, we're really excited about that um obviously last year and go the way we did. And I'm always like focused on moving forward. So I'm about let's keep bringing the guys that we were we're looking for. And I know I've heard other people use those terms, Kim, but I'm much more about looking forward and let's just keep doing it.
And I'm telling like Chris and Adam are both outstanding at this, like the guys we've brought in, like the guys we've drafted. There's a great young nucleus of good people and we're just gonna keep adding to it. And some people are gonna leave, and they leave because for a myriad of reason. Some we can control, some we
can But I'm much more focused on moving forward. And sure, you know, I think in pro football, you know, there there's a balance, like we all have families defeat, Like, this is a business, this is how people are in
a living. With that said, you also want to be able to tell are somebody in a half and you want to see what oozes out there, and you hope the first thing you see his competitiveness, because you know, and that goes to a little bit to Zaka's point, and there's nothing wrong with want to make a lot of money, like again, this this is a profession. But with that said, you also want people that love football, are tough and smart, and you're right when when when
the team successful, that's gonna benefit everybody. Well, you've been around. I mean they looked quite frankly, and I've seen guys this team, other teams over there over the last decade or two decades since free agency came in. You know, there's certain guys that you you, you you put some money in their pocket and they kind of shift into neutral. You know, hey, I got my money. I don't know, maybe I won't stay out dextra longer practice or I'm
not gonna go work out this day. And then there's the other guys out there that you could give them. You can give them ten billion dollars and they're gonna work as hard and is is and and be as competitive and do everything's finding those guys more of those guys, then those other guys is seems to be the key to the game, no question, and we spend a lot
of time on that. And you know, one of the things that we talked about is, uh, you know, especially like with these colleges, like with the draft of college preparation, is how they treat the guys that can't help them. So like our scouts are talking to the trainers and the equipment guys, like that's really important to us. Mike, you've been at this a long time. Is it tough? Sometimes too temper your excitement about you feel really good about what you're doing, but you still know that there's
more work to do. Is that a tough thing to gauge? Yeah? I think it's just kind of like you have to be a little you know, coach parselves. You to say like this is a for profession for the not normal don't And I would just say, you know, it takes
a certain personality of never being satisfied, you know. So hey, look when you when you do something and you get you know, and you're in a competitive situation and you're trying to get you know, Josh Sitting, or you're competing with two other teams to get Robert Quinn like yeah, do we fist bump, Yeah, yeah, And that feels good for ten to fifteen seconds, and then you're done and
then you're like, oh no, what's next? You know, like what's the next opportunity, what's the next decision, what's the next meeting? You know, the draft to someone the way you know, and there's a lot of the things going on in your building with you know, your staff, and you know there's you know, there's a lot of things going on. So you know, like I said, you get ten to fifteen seconds of joy and elation and that's right.
Basically you basically turned into a coach at after a win during the season, you kind of celebrate, you kind of go around and get your thoughts out, and then you're moving on to the next one. Yeah. Yeah, And I think it's just the mindset, you know, goes back to coach park Parcels. He talked about a lot. It's just a mindset of saying like, Okay, what's next, and really never to be satisfied and look, you know, there's a lot of work for us to do. You know
what I saw Coach Parcel's last weekend. I was playing golf up at MacArthur, up a hope sound and he refers to me as as a thief because of the company that I keep. So he he recited something something it took him about twenty seconds to say, and I looked at my partner and said, I think he was talking to you because he wasn't talking to me, because
he's great at that. He's when I've played golf with him, he doesn't talk to his partner the opposition for at least four or five holes, and if you talk to him, he's mad at you. He said, don't talk to them. We're that was at your opponent. So he's great. It's funny you say that. And I followed this to this day, which was you know, I was around coach in my formative years and very fortunate that he gave me a
chance much earlier than I ever deserved. And he used to talk to us in the staff about how one of the things that really annoyed him was the pregame routine. And to this day it's still instilled to me, like I don't go over and say hello to the opponent. You know, I know a lot of my peers are on the sidelines, and it was just something he taught me on like, we're there to beat him. We're not there to fratt nize. It's we're here to beat him.
You can talk to him after the game, but why are you talking to somebody that you're trying to beat? And like to this day, that's like been instilled in me. And that was my first thought when you when you signed Danny Danny Amondola. So I hated that guy for five years standard for five years. Now I love him. That's how I love the guy. And in fact, that's the first thing I said to him that when I met him. We've talked about about you were talking about
Chris and players and personnel. Where do the coaches get involved in this? Now you go out and uh, you get a Robert quinn Um, you you take away in and Dominican Sue. You've got Charles Harris coming back, you got Andre Brandts come back, You've got the young defensive tackles. But do you do you do at some point do you sit down with coaching the coaches say, hey, you know what we we somehow we need to find more
pass for us. We need to be we need to put more pressure on the quarterback and so that the conversation, Okay, does that mean, okay, we go more defensive ends. I remember watching the Giants when they think when the Giants won the Super Bowl, I think for a lot of time they line up with four or five defensive ends, you know, in the passing situations. I think I think we played against the Giants one year. The Dolphins, I think they put six defensive ends out in the football
field at one time and they were all coming. So that's a philosophical thing. Do you how does that conversation go with the coaches during or a while this process is going on, Yeah, no question, Like uh, And and I'm just a great job with the staff, get their feedback and understand like how they see things, and that helps formulate, you know, our ability to make the best decisions. Um, because like you said him, like there's a lot of
different ways to you use guys and people. When I say, like, oh, you just signed you know William Hayes and he's a defensive and well you know, maybe there's a package where he's gonna gonna be move around and you know, our competitors can see that. Come September, Mike, uh drafts coming up after this draft comes up, uh, and draft creates other other situations. Are there fluidity within the draft of
of players. Are you looking for players getting picked, players taken before you expect them to come, waiting for them to fall down, trying to decide do I move up? All those things that, uh, certainly come into fruition. And I think in most fans mind it's all they all they see is the first round and after that it's you know, let me, let me, let me go about
my business. But it's something that goes on from the first pick in the draft to the very last pick, then into the free agency coming out of out of the draft, the college free instead are out there. Yeah, that's right. And uh, you know other things I've learned is if you're drafting out eleven, there's guys you have to have, if you're if you're you know, that's that's something that you can certainly bank on every year. And look, this may be a great year of trade back. You
never know, you just never know. Um, we want to leave ourselves flexibility. We have five picks in the first four rounds. Um, that was important to us and we'll see how it goes. You know, could we move up three four spots. Absolutely, can we move back you just we'll see how that sorts out. Um. You know, there's always been a lot of talk about you know, you know, all these quarterbacks this year, and I'm sure there will be a big part of the narrative as we get closer.
But you know, for us, we at this point, you know, seeing you know, a little over a month away, we just want to be prepared, put our roster get the best wee can. I always say, hey, can we go out and go play a game before the draft? You know, can we go line up and go play with with
a roster that we like? And then what that does, guys is and I think this is important, is you want to operate in the draft from a position of strength, because if you go in there and say, like, oh we need yeah, like we just lost John James and like are starting right tackles in the draft, Like, that's not a good feeling going in there, because there's so much you can't control that has to be I would think that's one of the main things as an organization
you want to feel. You go into the draft night thinking we're okay, that's right, okay with this scenario, We're okay with that. That's exactly you have Plan A B C all the way down. Feeling you know you're you're okay because you did enough with your core players, resigning your core guys and being able to be flexible in free agency to maybe mask some things you don't have to depend on come April. That's right. I totally agree with that. It's just you. You wanna not be beholden
to any one situation if you could avoid it. Hey, Mike, uh, where we sit right now? Um uh? And when you take a snapshot of your football team right now and you talk about the free agent changes that have made prior to the draft. Um, you got Ryan Tannehill coming back, you re Kwon McMillan coming back, you resigned William Hayes. Um,
you talk about a J Derby what you did. And you talk when we first started talking having this conversation, you said, you know everyone, you know, you're looking at the top five or ten guys on your roster, but it's the guys that are down there from you know, from from eleven to fifty three that are probably gonna
shape what your football teams about. When you take that snapshot now of what the projected fifty three might be right now after what you've done, how do you feel about where your organization and your football teams at Again, like I said earlier, you know, coming off of six and ten, there's a lot of work to be done. We're excited about the new additions, Kim, like, we think they're good fits for us for the reasons we've talked about. And again we can celebrate that for a second, and
there's just more work to be done. And I think that's just our personalities and that's what we owe, you know, to Steve Ross, That's what we owe to our fans that you know, there there's we're gonna keep working and
to be candidate. It was really the mindset after you know, go in the playoffs, Like that's just the mindset we're always gonna have here, you know, not to be complacent, um, be opportunistic when we can, and keep identifying the right types of guys for us, and that doesn't mean the guys you know can't for other places, and keep working hard to look for good opportunities. When do you get
a break? When do you get a little vacation here? Yeah, the reason I'm asking because John and I want to get you quick when you when when you first get your your first trip out of the golf course. I think it'd be easy money. Yeah, you know, kay, maybe we could, uh, you know, get out the weekend after the draft. There you go, there you go. You talk about a one armed paper hanger. Over the last couple of weeks with with him and Chris Greer and and
and everything they've been going through. That that's free agent frenzy. Gotta be pretty gotta be pretty testy times, testy times for those guys. Well, you think all all the pressure that's on you year round and produce a winner. You have to find guys. You have to find synergy, not only in the front office, but you gotta make that
translate in getting the right people on the field. And there's a lot of pressure that comes with it, but that's what you sign up for when you when you're getting the big bucks and you're sitting at the top of an organization, that's the opportunity for you to make a change and make a change in a positive direction. So you go out and you get guys like Danny Amadol and Albert Wilson and sitting and and Kill Gore
you trade for Quinn. You try to get the best mixture of talent on your roster and then who works well with others. You know, I know we're gonna get into some other topics on the defensive side, but on offense, it looks like the moves that the Miami Dolphins made, we're good ones. You have to replace Jarvis Landry, you
have to replace all those catches. Well, maybe it's not one guy, maybe it's two, maybe it's four, maybe it's it's a tight end that's not on this roster yet, but you have to be able to produce and be able to make Ryan Tannehill feel comfortable. I think as a quarterback, you feel better with the offensive line that that's on paper in front of you. You feel pretty good about what you have at wide receiver. You know you've got a starting running back back there, uh In Drake.
So on offense, you feel pretty good. Defensively, well, the biggest the biggest question is Ryan how's his health. Is he gonna be able to go sixteen games? Is gonna be able to elevate his play and make those guys around him better? Defensively? You know, the jury is still out on a lot of issues right now. I just happened to run into R. Tannehill walking into the building and and talk to him. He seemed really upbeat, and how you're doing, feeling really good? He's excited. I tell
you know what he's excited about. He's excited about getting back on the field and and and starting to move around, starting to throw the football and doing those things. And it's it's his team. It's his team, and uh, and he's got to run with this. But look, especially with all the talk that's been about we need to draft a quarterback, we need to have draft a quarterback, Joe, it's certainly got to be weighing in the back of
his mind. But you know, from from my experience with Ryan, I don't think he's the guy that turns away from that. I think he meets that challenge head on. He's a very competitive guy. Um, he's quiet, but he's very competitive and he's gonna want to win this. He's gonna want
to show everybody. I think we've seen it change in him, even going back and when he was healthy that year when the when the Dolphins went to playoffs before he got injured, he he had a little something different to him as far as this is my team and this is do you know you started see him in the huddle kind of you know, not not pointing guys, I've been pulled going on the guys, Hey, you need to
do this, you know what I mean? And that to me is when when you see a quarterback that's got the confidence to do that, you can tell John you've been in that position that Hey, when people get in that huddle and you say something, they listen. We just think about where he is mentally. I mean, uh, he's married,
he's got a kid. Now, he's out different, he's been out for over twenty months, and he's been able to look on the sidelines and maybe take a peek at others that have played the position in his absence and say, you know what, I might not have done that there. I might not have handled that that way, or you
know what, I like what he did there. There. There's other ways of going about learning your craft and learning your position, especially when you haven't done it since you were eight years old and being born and bred to be a quarterback. This is a guy that's played multiple
positions as a young guy. He kind of thrust it and found himself at Texas A and m he gets drafted very high as as a member of the Miami Dolphins, and he's expected to be the savior right away or the guy that is supposed to be that guy to take us where we're gonna go. It didn't happen for him right away, and I think he's learned a lot in the process, and hopefully when he comes back this year, he's gonna be healthy enough to stand in there and do all the things he did when he was there.
We remember, this is a guy that is a tough s ob. He got his aspeat for a couple of years. Okay, His durability before this last day, right and toughness for the mount of hits he took was and mentally he's got to be the same way. Now. Can you surround him and give him a chance to come back and make it all the stuff he's learned, all those lessons he's learned on the sidelines. Can can he turn that
into victories and turn that into production as a quarterback? Hey, you guys want to knock out some of these questions by the fans. Great, you know what, I want to thank the fans that that sent questions and This is awesome, UH to turn out for these questions and UH, I'm gonna I'm gonna again encourage you to send your questions in. We'll get to him on our next podcast. You can go through Twitter, you can go through Facebook, and you go through Miami Dolphins dot com. I don't even know
if there's an outlet there. You can do all those kind of things and and get I don't know. There's a lot of ways, right Logan, A lot of lots of way am I missing? Any ways to get on here? You can call Logan at for a good time. If you want to get Logan's number, just go to any any any bar in UH in South Florida and go into the ladies room and look on the wall. You'll feel you'll find his phone number in there somewhere, so you can just get ahold of him that way. Let's
go to right here Twitter at cimony. Do you this is a pretty good question. Do you guys think we do? You think we have too many defensive ends? And how do you envision we use all of them? It's funny because we were talking about that a little bit. When you look at all the changes and Dominican Sioux leaves, and you're looking at the defensive tackles, and you got all these defensive ends right now. You look at what we've got. You got Robert Quinn, the kid they got
from the Rams. You got Andre Branch who's coming back from from surgery during the off season. William Hayes. So I'm very happy that they resigned William. He was one of a player and I was just hoping that they would resign him. They did that Cam Wake would they gave a little extra dollars to put a little money in his pocket. Charles Harris, Terence Forday who's still a free agent out there, and the one guy that kind of is flying under the radar as a defensive end.
I thought I did a lot of good things last year. They're like, is Cameron Malvo the young kid that came out at it really got the playing time. It did pretty well. But Joe, that is a lot of defensive ends. And you look at the tackles and now you're really you're looking at you look at Devin Gotschaw, you look at Vincent Taylor, and you look at Jordan Phillips. Those are your guys, those are your core guys in there. Is it outweighed too much? Joe defensive end of defensive tackle.
My only my only thought is this, Charles Harris was drafted in the first round last year with the thought of upside and being a big time having a chance to be a double digit sack guy. And bo, I know everybody wants depth, but if we draft this guy in the first round, line them up out there as a starter and let them play, I'm just afraid. I'm looking at this, and I'm looking at it early, and I see Cam Wake and I see Quinn as starters.
That's what I see. So I just wonder, like, well, you may sup first round pack, Joe, you may see that now. But look, I saw Charles Harris get better. I saw him close a lot last year. And I think that knowing Charles Harris from what I know about him since he's been here, this guy's busting his ass right now to be the best player that he can get. And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna give Look, I'm Cameron went Cam wait hard not to give him. But look, Cam, maybe a guy
that they say, look, maybe maybe you're the guy. Maybe you're the third down guy, and maybe it's Robert Quinn and maybe it's Charles Harris. I don't know, but I'm gonna give Charles Harry. I'm gonna put Charles Harris in one of those starting spots because I expect him to go out there and bust his ass to see if you can do that. Maybe he can, maybe not. And Joe, I'm different than you. I don't care if he's a first round draft pick. Put the best two guys out
there defensive end. And I've told I've said this before in the show. You give I get for for a league that demands you to rush the pastor and put pressure in the pastor give me as many defensive ends as you got that can rush the passer and just put them all out there and see how and see how much pressure you can get on him. That's my thought on it. I just don't want our first round picks are special. Your first round pick. I think first round picks gotta be a little more special than being
in a rotation with everybody else. That's just me personally. I don't get a guy. We've had too many guys come through here, too many first round picks. They're rotational or don't play well. I want him to be a franchise kind of player. Both if he can do that rotating in and out and we can get the production and he's a starter. And but if he's not in there on second and long and third and long, I think he will be in those packages that they can run.
But I just expect that guy. I thought this is gonna be a breakout year for him to move ahead and very well be I mean, you're you're kind of you're kind of throwing him at the end of the pile before he's even got a chance to get out there. Who do you think right now? On paper? Let's just epen round the kick you guys, who do you think it is starting? Ends right now? I would say that for me, okay, I would put Quinn, Branch, Wake and
m Charles Harris all in the mix. Two of those guys are gonna be your defense man's I'm not discounting defense in fact, that Charles Harris, I'm not discounting fact that Andre Branch maybe that guy. I think that if he gave to me of the guy to me of the guys that that I mentioned in that group before, I would say Cam Wake, maybe is not the starter.
I would say Cam Wake maybe becomes the situational guy, the third down guy that leaves Quinn branch and uh and and Charles Harris to battle it out for those two spots for a starting and quite frankly, every freaking team in this league is rotating their defensive fronts to keep guys, keep guys uh. You know where they're not. They're not dead on their feet. I know, I know that Charles Harris wasn't the guy that I thought he was gonna be in his rookie year. I thought he'd
get a little bit more playing time. I thought he'd be a little bit more productive. Now. The staff liked all the intangibles he did, all the stuff that he did, but I kind of put him in the bucket almost with xaviing Howard xaviing Howard and drafted in different spot. Granted pretty close, but let's draft it in different in different spots. But that guy came along in year two and was a different player. I think at the end
of year one and more in year two. Let's see where Charles Harris comes back and l T can't tell a whole lot, but let's see where he is in training camp. Let's see what he's been able to do, because the one thing that we all can agree on, this guy has been working and he's he's a hard worker. This guy he wants to be the guy. Let's see exactly. Let's see where he's at during training camp. Let's see how this rotation comes out, and let's see where this
defensive scheme comes into fruition. Are we going to be the Giants of two thousand eighteen for a lot of a lot of passing, paying three defensive ends. We might have to be. We might have to be everybody's nick. Let's see Mark grim comes in from Facebook. We should be trying to copy what the Pats do. Isn't everyone trying to do that? If they're not, they're idiots. It would be awesome to draft Miami wide receiver Braxton burials Now on day three and pair him up with Wilson
and Amundole in the short passing spread game. Spread system used Drake in the same manner. Get that guy in space because the speed agree with that. Let's Stills and a Parker pulled the downfield back, uh the d back down field played if Tannehill strength, he's a great intermediate pastor not a great vertical passer. I wouldn't I wouldn't go quite that far. H is say that about him.
But but getting to the point of his question, Uh, I got a local guy, Braxton Burrios, a guy that really didn't come into his own at u M until he was until he's senior season, and really did a lot of good things for him. I wouldn't mind seeing him on the roster. I wouldn't mind seeing him A guy that a date the late day two, day three or a Day three I mean day three pick up, not a second round guy, but a Day three pick up. If he ends up on this roster, I wouldn't be
disappointed with that at all. Well, I think he's got a place in the league because the things he can do. He's a slot receiver, really good hands on punt returns, really guy, a guy you can really trust. Uh inside actually and get to finish his workout the combine. He got injured a little bit. But yeah, I think we're all big Braxton burials fans. I I really like it. And of course everybody's got him going to New England because he's a short wi Yeah, yeah, and he fits
in like a glove there. Uh, Jeff Thomas on Facebook, I'll have Damni Dannie Mendolas signing. Sure we lost some big names, but they're also contribute to a six and ten season. That's the other thing you look at. You you look at the guys that are leaving and go why are we or require crying over spilled milk over a six and ten season after that with those guys in the line if I understand that, But that's just
my talk. Anyway, our fins needed to shake up. We filled most of those souls with some big time key players, just a few more pieces of puzzle. I like the direction we're heading in, all right, That's that's fair. Yeah, I I look at it not for production of how how good those guys. We lost some good players. No matter what the record was, they were good players. That's
not up for debate. But if the money's an issue, which I understand on both guys, then then we got to get that thing back in order so we can get more players. I agree with that. Joe. You look at the roster and you take a look. If you'd told me Jarvis Landry and Domagan's who and Mike Pouncey wouldn't be part the two. I would have said, you're crazy. But that's reality now, and now the Dolphins have to move on. I think. I think so far in free agency, on paper, they've addressed a lot of a lot of
the losses. But by the way, everybody else, just to be fair was part of the six wins to not just like, yeah, that's ever the reality. Look around the league. This is the reality of the league, not just some Miami Dolphins. You guys from the Philadelphia Eagles that they just won a Super Bowl, they're leaving. You gotta you know. You look at the Rams, look at the year the Rams had, and look at they get rid of Quinny when they're defensive backs. So it doesn't it. I don't
know that. I don't know that. You're looking New England. New England's jettison players. It doesn't matter what your record is. The league is gonna be from this is what it is. This is the new league right now. You I don't care if you won ten games or lost ten games. You're gonna have a bunch of people coming and growing. That's something going. You try to get rid of guys before they make too much money. And by the way.
Nobody does it better in New England. When he thinks you're making too much money, no matter what your name is except Brady, you're gone, or the age or the age kind of creeps up there and you see, well, you know what, we don't need him anymore. That's what somebody in the rot Bell Belichick reminds me of Wayne Hysinger. Knows when to buy. More importantly, knows when to sell right, when to get rid of them, when when they still don't, when they don't have much left Another Facebook, Robert Man.
As you can see a lot of people coming in through Facebook. So, like I said, when you want to send your questions, and it looks like Facebook is a pretty good than Yeah, because logan using misspell stuff and I can't read it properly. Robert Man. Robert Mann with two ends, I would not be angry who pick up a tight in the first round. I wouldn't be. It just doesn't seem like it could happen. We have we've we've not had a pass catching tight end since Joe Rose.
Oh no, since Clay went to Buffalo. Put that in there, but was that Joe Joe got into the notes. These freaking guys wouldn't let it go Logan, how about Joe before the show? Hey, can I use that pen for a second? What do you need a pen for? Yeah? I like, I like, he says. I like Mike DASICKI from Penn State. Good guy. They're the kid from the kid from Wisconsin was starting Carolina Carolina. Ye. So so there's a number of out there they okay, just because
of these guys, don't count on. No, I don't want to block. Don't give me a blood no, No, resign Facon if you want to block, you know what. But the way the way the first round is shaping up right now, I think the chance of the Dolphins taking a tight end in the first round are becoming more distant as we look forward. The quarterbacks are kind of, you know, stacking up on the top with the Jets moving up at all that, and so that means you've got defensive players that maybe falling down in the in
the Dolphins lap when it comes to eleven. I don't know that there's a tight end out there, Joe and John if the Dolphins states seven, that there's anybody out there that requires there's Howard out there in this draft at some point there's certain positions. We gotta stop just getting free agents for him, putting a band aid on some of these positions and grows some of your own through the draft. We have done very good at guard.
You had to go out and get We don't have homegrown guards, so we got we gotta get some other positions over where we hit and tighten might be one where you find it tight end. And we know Adam Gate is gonna use him. He likes to flex him out inside the twenty. Different stuff. Get him one on one against safeties and linebackers. Get your own guy. You like another one from Facebook, Lithaya knowledge. I like what
Josh Sitton brings to the Miami Dolphins. We didn't talk about Josh as much as we talked earlier about Kilgore. We'll talk about him a little bit here. Uh. He's a solid offensive lineman. Uh. And and they're picking up pieces and putting them together. Now we have a solid center who's healthy, a Pro Bowl left guard. Now they need to draft the right tackle and a right guard. I don't know if that's gonna happen. The offensive line
is going to be nasty. Um. I like this sign of John Josh sitting and you got a chance to talk to him, John, I talked him on the phone. Uh, he's he's an offense alignment as order bag, nasty, sloppy, it's not come out of your nose offensive lineman. What you said someone asked about moving from left to guard left or right. It's like Samuel, Well, try wiping your ass with your opposite hand now, see, Or you can be like Jay bro when you have both hands and casts.
See who's gonna wipe your app for you? When every time j would get up and go to the bat head towards the bathroom, everybody that's turned in head in the other draft, no one wanted to be in the No one wanted to be in the bathroom. When Josh broke friends, that was a special girlfriend special How did come in here? But you just ring the bell? But but anyway, so Josh and he's a colorful character, obviously
coming out with with something like that. But I think Josh Sitton is one of those guys, a veteran guy, pro bowler. I think I think between he and Kilgore, they're gonna bring that long hair, nasty toughness, beards. You know, they're those guys. I didn't know if I wanted to kiss him on the forehead just to say thank you for being on the buy him a beard, you know. At the same time, he looks like an offensive talks an offense line. And what is he going to bring
to the table for the guy next to him? I mean in touncil, if he's on the left side, how is he going to bring him along? Because I think you've got eyes that have experienced. You've got guys that have made Pro Bowls, You've got guys that have played at a lot of games in the National Football League. They're not old by any stretch. They're experienced. They're right in between. And I think that's a good fit for the Miami Dolphins because they like the guys that are
being coached by Jeremiah Washburn. They like they just like being offensive lineman. And what do those guys do. They share ideas they're in that room. No one has more fun in a room than the offensive line, right, So those guys exactly can't control themselves. Part of it. I think that's part of it. They don't have to get up to go to the bathroom, they just go right there.
So I think that's part of it. That's what you get when you get veteran guys in the room and Juwan James on one side Larry Tunso on the other. How can they bring those two guards can if it's Jesse Davis or it's Ted Larson. I tend to think it's gonna be Jesse Davis. If those two guys can make those tackles a little bit better, then then then you really got some The other thing Joe does by by going ahead signing those two guys, it throws out the entire question of drafting a guard in the first
That's that. That's done. And by the way, nobody got more talent on this offensive line than Laramie Tonsil at left tackle. He's got the footwork of a wide receiver running back. He just gotta put it together and maybe having a veteran next to him, he'll just will help him just get better and better. Twitter at Arcane twelve nine first rounder. Get a monster linebacker that looks like maybe maybe may more and more be the reality now. Second, go to a tight end. Third, get a defensive tackle.
If they get the right players, all could start year one and then try for some depth in the rest of the draft and Hill, we'll get the issue to see what he is. If he's not a top ten quarterback next year, then draft for future quarterback. I agree with all those things, but I think the quarterback. I think that quarterback is still gonna be somewhere in the second or third round for this football team. Doesn't look like first round is gonna be gonna be available, but
who knows it. But I think second or third round you still gotta walk with with a quarterback. You gotta you gotta find. I think it would be a rookie backup quarterback. But I'll tell you what, he hit it right on. I'm with those positions and and that that big stud linebacker that looks like you know, if if that's what you want, I think right now it's probably
to me. Then when the Dolphins drafted eleven, there's gonna be a good linebacker there and they may jump on unless it's the kid Vida, the kid from where he washing question via Vida that uh he's a Simone kid, right, Yeah, he's big. Simone defensive alignment, very very high in my book. Yeah, I'm with you. They don't get hurt, they don't break down on the West Coast. If you're not in a way, if you never played football on the West Coast, I don't think you know the smon. I mean, I played
with a lot of Simone guys over my career. I love playing with every one of them. Everyone was a tough s O B. And every one of them you if you go into battle, you want them sitting you want. I can still remember were coming out of the huddle playing B y U when they in college, when they won the national title in eighty three or four. Was and I'm looking across and everybody looked like they were forty years old. And they all went on missions. They're
all some and they all had beards. That's all said. They all have five kids already. I said, don't let him hit me. All had that wild hair sticking out of their coming out of someone. Come on, where did they get this guy from? You know? Yeah, they got them from some boa That's where they got them from El Chapol juniors. I'm about rounds back in with it. With the pickups in free agency so far, which position do you think we should target now in the draft.
You're talking about tight end, you were talking about line back and backer, you're talking about maybe defensive line in terms of tackle. I mean those positions right there. I think, oh Bau might want to take another defensive end. Let me check, well, let me go back and check the tape. I don't think let me the only The only way I'm gonna say the Dolphins should take a deep that's a end in the draft is if they draft me again, let me sign. Let me sign one of those goddamn contracts.
If these guys are signed right now and you you were wrapping the seventh I'll take seventh round money right now. Seventh round money maybe more money than I made my entire career. They're all getting paid now. You're not kidding, no, I like those positions. I really do. I mean, you got a linebacker, you got tight end, I think defensive tackle, and I think the Dolphins may end up getting a
running back somewhere. Running back the other thing in terms of being able, I mean, there's a lot of running backs in this draft. They're gonna get fourth, fifth, and sixth round that are pretty darn damn good catchers. The other thing that seems to keep floating around too, is maybe another cornerback out there. If there's some guy down the road a little bit, but I'm pretty Look I look at our secondary, especially with Tony Lippett coming back,
they resigned Walt Aitkins. You know you've got You've got your your two cornerbacks, your Tank and your Xavian, who really are really Xavians certainly came into his own. If Tank can have that kind of improvement that Xavian have from year one, pretty good. And then with her Shod and teach A back there, well you feel pretty good
about that starting group. Other side of x and Bobby, Bobby inside is Bobby played some outside with good but he made a big step forward last year, I think, and he gives you so much versatility if somebody goes down, all right, let's go. Chris Williams from Facebook to me, Albert Wilson is a faster Landry. He was third in the league and broken tackles with a lot less catches than the top two guys. Uh number two was Landry. Uh.
You know what. To be honest with you, if I was to tell you I watched all of Albert Wilson's play game, I I'd be lying to you. I know he's a fast kid. I know he's a tough kid, he's a smart kid. Had a chance to talk to him, and I really liked the conversation I had with Albert Um. But look, he's gonna have to go a long way to be close to Jarvis. Let's not kid each other. Yeah, by the way, for the inside, for the slot thing,
I get there. Everybody wants the extra speed, and you know, if we're gonna break down Jarvis Landry, I would like to see Jarvis Landry run four fours instead of four sevens. But that guy, no matter what anybody wants, Steve is a really good slot receiver. Move on. But you don't have to bring up Jarvis Landry. You can get guys, you can spread out. I get that we're gonna have those hundred and sixty UM targets that we're gonna have are gonna get spread out with everybody, and I'm all
for that, man. I think that should happen, and I think it's good for morale. I think it's just good for business. Look at look at New England. Look at New England. They started who they started with. Danny Woodhead was or No West Welcome was the first of the ILK. Then it was Danny Woodhead, then it was Edelman, and then it was Amndola. If anybody's gone through good slot receivers and let him move on and then showing that you can find someone else to do it, it's certainly
has been doing it. And maybe and maybe that that, maybe that constant of of that guy, Tom Brady, maybe that has something to do with I think receivers play in New England that haven't done better than their careers after playing with Brady. Yeah, I think they. I think you know, with Tom Brady, they won Super Bowls with a bunch of receivers. As he said, who is there were those guys it didn't matter. Uh. James Cheatham on Facebook as a Dolphin fan living in Missouri Chiefs Country.
I see Albert Wilson play. He's flown under the radar, but he's actually pretty good, a pretty good route runner and gets separation. I usually fear the worst with Dolphin acquisitions, but I'm holding out hope that's he's gonna surprise some people when I have a chance to talk to him, and John, you have a chance to talk to him,
really comes across as a good guy. He's been through a lot in his life that he's bought battle through and I think he carries out with him and he's a guy that he's one of those guys he just I just want to go out there and show people what I can do. And he thinks his time is right now, and hopefully it is, so he's gonna have a chance. I mean, he's signed a three year deal. I think it's you know, two years of exposure for
the Dolphins. When you take a look at the numbers and where he's at, he's gonna have an opportunity to to make a home in South Florida. He's a South Florida native of Port St. Lucy High School. So a guy that's a tough guy and when you watch him on film, he does make people miss when he gets his opportunities. He's got that that jump step in the middle of traffic that he's able to allude tackles and and move the ain't So you hope that that carries over.
Uh with this offense and where Adam Gates wants to take the targets that Joe talked about and spread those targets out, You're hoping that he gets his share. I look at the money he's playing absolutely I can tell you the first four receivers are unless he get injured. I mean that that's pretty clear. The two here last year and and two new guys, the amount of money they got, I mean, the the guy that's gonna have to come in and play like Superman from from the
first practice out. Here's crew of those. And I agree with that. That's the pecking order in that. Where do you throw Jakim in on that ahead of Carew. He's a fifth guy that can do and he's got that extra gear and actually Finnish strong. My god, I called it the speed package. I want, I want more him. He may get more play. He's on the outside, right, everybody forgets. Everybody figured out, not know he's an outside guy. Let him make somebody miss and threaten and let me ask.
Let's not forget. You got still got your key him as a punt return you got Danny Amendole, you got Wilson. You know you've increased your special teams, You've increased your your skill on special teams with those guys. When it comes to kick returning. Yeah, well listen, I see a Mendola where they're inside the tenant. It's super high. He's gonna get out there. He's gonna catch him. When you got open field long kid Jarvis, I mean Jachim. Jachim
will be back out, no doubt, no doubt. Twitter. If you there's a number of people have got in with this question, who's been your guy's favorite signing so far this year? Sitting? You like Sitting? You like that? You like that offensive guarden there. I think a nasty that h I have to go offensive line too. I'm saying
Kilgore as well. I mean, if you're gonna get a guy that that that's that good and healthy at his age and be able to come in and replace a guy that you were crossing your fingers with you know every day at practice that he's gonna play and he's gonna, you know, be there because if he goes down right now, uh it, Pouncy a week ago went down, the Dolphins didn't have a really an answer. You know, they got they got they got some trying guys in there, but
they don't have a guy that's proven. Now you've got a guy that's proven. They're they're they're one A and one B for me. Both those guys sitting, Sitting and Kilgore both those guys, because those two guys come in at the same time, and it completely revamps your offensive line. And and and and John you you've mentioned this when when you talk about sitting and kill Gore's say they bring a real tough They don't. They don't, you know, they're not. They're not the the guy that's puffing out
his chest walking across the street. They might kind of walk slump shoulder a little bit. But if you if you push your button the wrong way, you're gonna get your asking. Let me tell you a quick story. So I I look at Daniel Kilgore's you know, bio, and I'm looking on Wikipedia trying to find out a little bit about him. And he's from a little town in Tennessee. So I'm looking on the map and it's real close
to Tri Cities Airport. This is, uh next to a golf course called the Old Farm that I'm a member at. So I'm gonna talk to Daniel and interviewing for the one on one and say, hey, I saw your you know from a little town. Uh, that's right next to Tri Cities Airport. He goes, can't this my house? If you're flying in there? It's got like a copper roof. You'll be able to see it all the time. I said, well, I'm a member at this place called the Old Farm
in Bristol, Virginia. Actually, Damn Reno's remember there too. He goes, I know it well, he said, next time, when you guys go up there, don't call for the shuttle, call me. I'll come pick you up. That way, I'll get to play the course with you. I said, I like you already the way you think. But you know, he's only a little genuine guys that he said, you know what, forget that, I'll come pick you guys. Yeah. And they're both excited about being here. Man. They just seem like
they want to be part of this thing. And well you look at Sitt and he's he's a he's a Florida guy. His wife's a big dolphin fan, and he's he's he's thrilled about coming down here, you know. And some of these guys you would think, like like Kilgore would be a guy to me that you would think, Man, I just signed with these guys, the forty niners, that you think there would be a little ANIMALSI there. He's just excited about being here. And get an opportunity to
come and really changed his franchise around in starting center. Yeah, it's it's his. Hey, you know what, There's been a lot of talk about leadership with with with guys coming in and trying to bring guys, and I think you look at all these guys Amndola, Quinn, Sitting Kill Gore, I think they all bring that that leadership to How important you think that is or is that just is
that just a catchphrase being thrown around this year. I think it's important, But Bo, we play with guys that aren't great team, guys that don't show up all the time, but they play their ass off on Sunday and without going into all the old names on our forty five man roster, and you you got to have those guys. I think this culture thing that's stone out, that's leaked out of Davy is important, But Bo, you still gotta have guys that make plays game changers on on Sunday
and Monday night and Thursday night. And we got to have those guys because or that culture that you talked about, that culture is great. Your fans will never get to see. It's one spoke on the wheel for me. I mean you need it, how important it is, it depends on how good you are. I think it comes down that. Yeah, I look, I think to me, Uh, you gotta have we guys, not me guys. And I don't care about you know, Leadership to me is is to me, tends to be an overblown thing. But you just gotta have
guys who want to play and win football games. Well, probably one of the great leaders that we we had the opportunity to play with, Joe barely said a word. Dwight Stevenson and and but when Dwight said something, everybody listened to what he said everybody. And he was that guy that led by example, by go out, practiced hard, worked hard. No one worked harder than him, no one practiced harder on him, and no one played better than him.
And that that comes across uh in another way. You don't have to be a verbal guy to be a leader, but you got if you're not, you respected and he's out there doing stuff, you got a big balls to not do the same thing. But you know that's I start to say their names. I don't want to throw guys under the bus. But we had guys who were late, guys like don't you would go if I could touch now, And the player told him back, I know, but you don't have any better and you won't for a while,
so you won't be cutting me. Well, I'm gonna leave you. I'm gonna leave you with my only, my only don Shola cutting the guy on the spot moment. We're we're training camp at St. Thomas University with beautiful facility, potholes in the parking lots, staying the dorm on one side, had our locker room on the other side, and just to the west of that was our practice field, and all surrounding the practice field where a bunch of trees
was like a little mini forest out there. And we had one kid who was a rookie overslept, overslept for a training camp, and you can see the parking lot from the practice field. All of a sudden, you see this guy bobbing and weaving between the cars right, and everyone's gonna say with hey, what's that over there? You know? Now next you know, everybody's looking. So the guy, the guy's late, obviously bobbing and weaving through the cars, gets into the locker room, puts his ship on, puts his helmet,
and pads on. Comes running back, dodging the weaving through the cars, goes through the dorm, goes remember how you go through a little walkway, comes through the back, goes through the forest, comes out right behind practice, climbs over the fence, climbs over the fence, gets on the field and kind of snuggles up behind everybody. As you're standing there in the group, you all the offensive guys, and
you know they've got their backs to the fence. He kind of crawls and gets in the fence there, and you know, for a little bit, and and you see him all of a sudden he starting to get a man, Who I made that? I made that? And all of a sudden she was es, where the hell you been, coach, I'm right here. Was Oh, don't don't give me that crap. I saw you running across the park. A lot I got he goes. He says, get out of here. He goes, we don't need guys like you. You're cut get out
of here. So guys turns around, starts walking on the field. Shows no, no, no, no, you go out the same way you came to hop over the fence again, going back through the trees, go back through the thing. The only thing you did do He didn't surf and tie through the parking a lot this time, he just walks. Ready, that's that crappy way by having to climb over the fence to go home. Time for us to climb over
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