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The Audible Ep. 119 | Breaking Down The Running Backs

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In this week's X's and Bo's, Kim and John take a look at the running back position and break down who to watch this upcoming season. Then they both relive some of their favorite running backs they've played with and against. The duo also explain some of the new Training Camp guidelines and how this season will look different than years past.

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Well, welcome back to the Audible of John K. Jemmy. I can see you, John, I know this is great. Almost forgot what you look like. It's nice to see that your clean shaven. I thought maybe you'd have one of those COVID beards going on like a lot of other people. I like your your choice and shirt though. Bo yeah, yeah, well, you know, I only wear what they give me free for us comes to buying, I who knows what I'm wearing, but if that's that's what

I'm wearing. So anyway, good, We're back with the Audible. It's nice to be on the air. It's nice to hope, I hopefully have our fans see us, and hopefully as we go along we can have more interaction with them as we move along with this kind of video version of the Audible back being on in front of people. And sure there's a lot of people who don't want to see our our pusses on the on the air, but that's that's too bad. It's you're gonna have to see us, and that's just the way it is. You

know what. It's actually fun to to correspond with somebody and talk about football. Seems like we've been on, uh, you know, out of out of the media spotlight for about four or five months now and talking with friends and families. You see people in public, you've got a mask on, you're you're trying to talk through your masks. So this is this is much better for you. And I guess no, no doubt about it. And then we've got a good show lined up today. We're gonna start

off with kind of news around the league. You know, normally we would have guests right now, but you got the rookies in being tested prior to training camp started starting. Training camp starts in July for everybody in the league. Now, I just saw moments earlier that I think it's the San Francisco forty Niners have pushed their start date back a couple of days. And I think depending on where teams are, John, you may see a little shift, a little movement here and there with how things go. I

don't I don't think anything right now, he said in Stone. No, And I think that's pretty fluid for every football team, you know, whether you go from college football to the NFL to locally at high school levels. Everybody's kind of in that flux right now where you're not sure where you're gonna start, when you're gonna start, how long you're

gonna go. But the good thing is, I think each at every level, uh, they've given themselves a little bit of PAD in terms of time with the NFL, especially now that they've eliminated what would be four preseason games down to two now zero preseason games, I think they're gonna have a little bit of a blend of O T A sh learning via Skype, learning in meeting rooms, getting in shape, and then finally putting helmets on and

going out in practice. I think that gives each NFL team plenty of time to get to know you yourself as a team, get to know your assignments, get to know and be more acclimated to being an NFL football player if you're a rookie number one, and then for the veterans to mix in, uh, kind of get their schemes down on both sides of the football, and then after probably a good eighteen to twenty days, finally get

into the rigors of a regular practice with pads. So I think that the planning on the NFL in terms of time and the way they're gonna go roll out in into September when the regular season starts. It gives them some flex there with with the scheduling. Yeah, you know, you know, the preseason games to me, if to me over the years have gotten to be more. You know, two would be enough, especially if you did those pre practices.

We practice against those teams for a few days the play and but this is forced to to to really no preseason games. And I think really, you know, with no preseason games, it gives them a lot it kind of before that, before those eighteen or twenty days of padded practices that they're gonna have leading into the start of the regular season. I think it'll give them time to make up for what they lost in the off season.

Like you talk about O t s, you know, get learning, get some of these young guys and John, I think one of the other things it's important, and it's you know, it's important. I think it's helpful, but it's also disappointing is that they've taken rosters and dropped them from ninety players to eight players. Now I understand it, because you can get more reps for the guys that are gonna be playing, you can accelerate the pace at of learning

and how and how things go. Um. But you know, there's thirty two teams out there, ten guys, ten guys per team that aren't going to get the opportunity to to fulfill their NFL dream. So three guys out there that aren't gonna be able to go to training camp because of of the COVID virus that we're all dealing with.

Uh and and it's unfortunately because John, you know that some of those guys in that three, three and twenty player group would would would make a team, and who knows, one or two of those guys may become a Pro bowler, some of them may become Hall of famers. We've seen

it before over the course of the NFL. But well, it's just a it's a tough time when you've got guys that have worked, prepared and hope to get an to an NFL camp after their college season, only to find out that they're gonna be in the outside looking in. And it really is a shame lost opportunity for a lot of guys that have NFL caliber talent. I think that's what it comes down to. Look at the way

the Miami Dolphins built their roster last year. There were a lot of guys that no one knew who their names were, what they what college they attended, what their level of expertise was as a corner, as a linebacker, as an offensive lineman, and they ended up playing and playing significant snaps for the Miami Dolphins. And now they've turned there are no names into into into resources that are gonna be dependent upon. In two thousand and twenty,

you lose that opportunity for three twenty guys. And I'm not saying that of those guys are gonna make rosters, but that tend to twelve or fifteen percent. Uh. It maybe not have made the Miami Dolphins roster, but they may have been good enough to make the Cincinnati Bengals, or they may have been able to, you know, go to Seattle and be able to fit a niche that Pete Carroll was looking for. So there's a lot of lost opportunity. Let me look at Preston Williams, the prime example.

Here's a guy that we really came into training can it really wasn't on anyone's radar, so to speak. But then as soon as he started playing, all of a sudden, you know, you you start to see something and you got in a preseason game. So yeah, it's unfortunate, but look that's the way it is. And uh, you know, it's it's it's life this year, and who knows how it's gonna go. But um, you know, it's just nice to see that they're getting started, uh and getting going. Now. Uh,

we're into our exes and bows. We're gonna talk about the running backs a little bit of the Dolphins of all their rookies signed. Robert Hunt just signed, uh, the last guy to sign his contracts. They've got all their rookies under under contract, which is a good thing to a talk of Viola has been here. Um, he's ready to get to work. He's talks about him being healthy.

So I think as we go into training camp, John, with this roster and I've this training camp and coming out of this training camp and playing the way that the coaching staff wants, the fans want they want, it's gonna be difficult on this team, John a little more because man, it's just been so much turnover in this football team, beginning with last year where they just kind of you know, took a lot of starters, a lot of you know, a lot of big time players, jettison

off to other teams via trade or whatever. Uh, and brought in a lot of it that a lot of people coming in out of the door last year during the season, and you had a big change in this roster during the off season. So there's a lot of new faces, a lot of people that haven't met met each other yet, a lot of people haven't been with each other. You got whole offensive line to reshuffle, You've got almost a whole defense that looks quite different than

it did last year. Um. And other than probably the wide receiver position and tight end, you got a lot of changes being made on the offense. So, UM, there's a lot of work to be done for this football team for them to get off to start that they want to when they face New England in September. I think there is a lot of workbode But but I do think this team starts ahead of where the Miami Dolphins started last season because of the way they strengthened

this roster in free agency and in the draft. Now, in the draft, you feel like you've you've improved your offensive line on paper. We're hoping that that happens quickly enough. In training camp that week one that some of those rookies are are up to play and can't play a full NFL season, But especially on the defensive side, I think we're much better at defensive end. You've got guys that have NFL experience. Were much better at the linebacker position.

With Kyle van noy I mentioned, you know on the edge you have od bun Loss and that that are two guys that you know can just put a Miami Dolphin uniform on and play, and if they play up to their expectation or even close to it, it's going to be years better than what it was last year. At the beginning of the year. At corner, you're gonna have two of the most dynamic corners in the league, hopefully play for the Miami Dolphins in tandem. So that

strengthens your defense. So I think when when you started with the x's and bow and you talk about running backs, I think that's where the Dolphins have to find a way to use that nucleus to to match what they did on defense and free agency to kind of match what they're hoping to get at the offensive line in the running back uh and the wide receiver corps. Because you've got two guys in in Jordan Howard and in Matt Brita that give you a little bit of something different.

And I think you haven't really scratched the surface with a guy like a big guy like cal Blange. You don't know really what he is and how he's gonna fit now in this in this season in two thousand and twenty, and you still have two young guys on the roster in Layard and Gascon and Perry you know, you you draft in the seventh round that are a little bit different. But they're all dynamic in their own way.

They all have speed, they all can catch it. You're hoping Perry can kind of catch on and and be something in special teams. So I think there's a good one to punch at the top of that list with experience and speed and power that can do a little bit of everything. But you still have a lot of question marks out there and how each guy is going to fit their role and who's gonna be the odd

guy out. You know, one of the previous shows, we uh, we went over the offensive line of Nexus and Bows, and we're going over the running backs now, and they couldn't be more tied together, and they couldn't be more closely associated with the two. The success or failure there within with both of those units they're equally is important. And John, when you look back at this football team last year and and what the season was, probably the most the two most glaring numbers that jump out to

me were the lack of sacks. I think it was twenty three twenty three sacks by the Dolphins as a team, and the lack of yardage from the running backs. When you've got um, Ryan Fitzpatrick, You're you're leading rusher to forty three, Caleb Blage, Um, you know, really didn't give you much of anything. Uh, Mark Walton two hundred yards, Patrick Laird hundred sixty eight yards. This team didn't have seven hundred yards or eight hundred yards in total yards

for your entire running back group. And John, that that is a very very unacceptable and very very disappointing number. That is gonna take this offensive line and this running back You know they're gonna have to get a big effort out there to get it done. But but I'm with you, and I like the addition to Jordan Howard.

He gives you experience, he gives you carries He's been on a number of teams, and I just remember watching the forty Niners early last year and watching Matt Breda, and you know, this guy is maybe as fast as anybody in the National Football League. Uh. He can break it from anywhere. Uh. You know, he's got he's got a he's got a quick get to the hall and if he gets to that second level, he can really do some good things. So I think those to really add a punch. Now. That the the one guy that

I look at. And I'm not sure if last year was the real thing or if we can expect more out of Kalin Blage, but you know, you saw some sparks of him prior to last year. But boy, last year was I think any garage wo under two yards per rush. Uh, and that's not gonna get it done. Patrick Laird late in the season showed you a couple of flashes of doing some things. But you know, I think it's gonna take a lot for him to really become part of a rotation in that running game unless

there are some injuries. And the guy, I think that's that's that's that should interest everybody, whether you're looking for a slot receiver when you're looking for a running back wherever, where you're looking for a kick returner is is Malcolm Perry the rookie out of out of the Navy who can do a lot of different things And it might be a guy that can be uh, you know, can

can show you a lot of different things. Put use him and put him in a lot of mismatch is whether it's at the slot, whether it's at the running back coming out of the backfield and doing some different things like there as well as running the football. If you want to create some kind of a little option package with what he's come when when he's coming out of from the midshipment, and what they've done during their

their time there. Well, I agree with you. It was highly disappointing what the Miami Dolphins did last year, and it starts it stems from that offensive line with Caleb Blaje getting hit behind the line of scrimmage before he could even get going. It seemed like he was going sideways instead of forward and pressing the whole So I think there's a combination in that. And you're hoping, uh, we're all hoping that the offensive line improvement will help

the running game. So that Ryan Fitzpatrick does not have to be the leading rusher of the Miami Dolphins. That I think that's a a statistic and something he wants to take off of his back and shoulders this year in two thousand and twenty. I do believe that combination though at the top of the list Howard and Brita. Brita gives you that explosiveness. He gives you, uh, that lightning in a bottle. He can hit, you know, a

home run from sin yards away. And I think Howard's more of the consistent plot or that's really good in the red zone. Good and short yardage can get you yards after contact. But I don't think we we quite know what we have in calin balage. But it was disappointing last year. Whether that's on him, the offensive line,

or a combination of both. It just wasn't good enough to sustain and help out with play action, to help out with the passing game that you're looking for to offset what you need balance, or just take some pressure off the passing game to be able to get some yards after contact. And with the other guys, I thought they were pretty good. I thought Gaskin came along late. I thought Laird came along late. They have some flashes

of what they can do. It's all how they mesh with the guys that are at the at the top of the food chain right now in the backfield. And that's the two guys with experience. So somehow this team, whether it's one guy or whether it's four guy, is somehow out of that offensive, out of that running back room. They've got to get fifteen hundred plus yards on the ground. I mean, you know, whether it's you know, it's you know, whether someone's gets someone gets a thousand, or two guys

get five hundred, another couple of guys in both. I would even say, you know, throw in run after catch, opportunities on screens and dump backdowns and all that stuff that it has to add up, you know, to being much more productive than it was last year year. You know this, It doesn't need to be a team that's hey,

it's gonna be Jordan Howard's our starter. And you know, they put put them both in the backfield, put gas you know, mixed, you know, and I would expect this offense under chan Gay, we should do some of that. Put them in situations where you've got a Jordan Howard or a Matt Greed and Malcolm Perry in the backfield

and send them out and do different things. I know one thing that's got to happen with these guys, John, It's gotta happened pretty quickly, especially with if two are depending on what his you know what, what what his starting day is going to be, whether he's gonna start at all this season, whether he's gonna start later in the season, whether they go through training camp and he beats out Ryan fitzpatrickin is to start at the beginning

of the season. Whenever that happens, you know, that offensive line or that offensive line in conjunction with that, with that that group of running backs, you know, they've got to protect. They've got to be better protecting the blitz. The running backs in particular, they've got to have you know, you know how it is, John. You can have a guy that can give you some nice yards every now and then, but if he can't step up and protect your quarterback in the blitz, he's really not that good.

They're not not very good for you. So along with the running game, along with trying to give this this team opportunity to be second and four second and three second and six those types of situations. You know they're gonna have to run the football well, but they're gonna have to do their job when it comes to protecting on blitz blitz pickups, and they've got to stick their head in there and prove that they want to get

the job done. Yeah. Well, rounded at the running back position, you have to do a little bit of everything, and that includes stepping up sometimes and taking on a safety or a linebacker. And it doesn't have to be dominant

all the time. You just have to be able to sustain, to be able to be in the right place at the right time, and give your quarterback that room in the pocket just to be able to move and maneuver and find some room within the pocket, be able to get rid of the football and get it out on time. And I would expect Howard to take the majority of that stuff, Brita as your third down kind of scatback, doing some things like that, but all of them at some point are gonna be asked to step up and

do that job. So I'm quite sure with with the limited time and pads and without preseason, those guys are gonna have to get real proficient in protecting the quarterback. Deeper into training camp, a lot a lot of a lot of communication between that offensive line and what they're doing in these guys, and and you know, it's just you know, these guys don't now I've all played in like Brita and how are they've all played in this r p O you know, run pass option type of offense,

spread offense, so they know what to do. Maybe some of those offensive line and some of the young guys need to kind of get gonna take them a while. But you know, I'm excited about the group. I'm excited about both groups on paper. I just hope that after four weeks of training camp, I'm still as excited about because I am right now because I think I think from a personnel standpoint, I think this team has done a good job both in free agency and the draft

when it comes to running backs. And they've done the same thing on the offensive line, adding adding free agents and then peppering in those those those young guys that uh, you know you've got you know you got a first round first round guy contribute your starting left tackle. Uh, you've probably got at least one more hunt or one of these other guys that's gonna start either at the left guard or left tackle. Uh, and then some other

guys to compete. So uh, you know, I think with Austin Jackson in that group coming in and the with the veterans so that they've signed in free agency, Uh, there's no reason that that offensive line shouldn't be much better and and I would be disappointing this offensive this group group of running backs is a lot more productive than what we saw last year. Well, I think so bo.

I think that there's only one way to go with with both groups, and that's up because the Dolphins can't win with any consistency if they're going to be as poor as they were on a consistent basis weekend and

week out. With the running yards per carry, yards after first contact and being able to protect your quarterback and lastly be able to create a crease and the offensive line, you know, somewhere along the line of scrimmage where those backs, whether it's Brita hitting it quickly or Howard bouncing off a couple of people, or you know it's Millage kind of getting going without getting hit behind the line of scrimmage.

I mean that those two units work in unison and it's not going to work at the guy's up front can't do it with any more consistency. So you're right there, tied at the hip both offensive line and running back. And we're not gonna be able to go from you know, the Philadelphia preseason game to the New Orleans say we made great improvement there. This is going to be from practice, the scrimmages to walk throughs to week one on the road against the New England Patriots. So this is gonna

be a big jump for some of those guys. John the one guy we didn't talk about, Chandler Cox, the fullback that they brought in last year and then I kind of had high hopes for him, uh, and it kind of the season went along, he became more distant and more distant. Uh in the in the package, you know, he didn't see him that much and and I don't think he I don't think his production was quite what they expected. I think his playing time, uh, you know

reflected that. UM, and I don't know where he fits, you know, I you know, to me a fullback, I like a fullback. But with today's game, is it needed? I mean, they're basically obsoletely for the most part in National Football League. The question is can he do enough? Can he improve enough? Did he improve enough between the end of last season and with training camp starting on. Has he done enough to make himself more valuable in somebody that they say we can't get rid of him.

He just, you know, he provides something that we don't get from somewhere else, whether it's at lead block and short yardage, whether it's carrying the ball at short yardage, whether it's coming out of the backfield, whether it's protecting you know, he's it's gonna be up to him to earn his spot, and and and and basically create a spot for him this year, because I don't think it's a spot of me. I don't think it's a necessity, but they've got one. I know they weren't happy with

I know they weren't overjoyed with him last year. So I think there's gonna be a big leap forward if he wants to establish himself as part of this roster. I think the biggest question with with Chandler cons is is he a viable option? And what Chain Gallant Gaily wants to do with this offense. You know, is does he have a spot uh in a in an r PO type of setting. Is he more blending in to a tight end slash special teams guy that's going to be a lead blocker on on certain formations, either goal

line or shore yardage. I think he has the athletic ability to do a little bit of both and and quite frankly, the Dolphins are kind of slim at that tight end spot for what he gives you. You know, you have big bodies, you got some guys that strictly block, but this is a guy that did a little bit of everything when he was at Auburn, didn't have a chance to do it last year in the Dolphins offensive scheme. Now what is coach Gailey going to do and what

is he gonna put on Chandler's plate? Does he have enough opportunity to make this roster and are they gonna use that position a little bit more this year than last year. I think those are all questions we're gonna look for at training camp, and we'll find out pretty soon as they get out in the field. And I'm not sure if we're gonna be They're not sure what's

gonna happen. I think everything still if it, because it's right around the corner and everything is still up in the air, and that's you know, one knows anything, but we know they're gonna be out there working. And whether we're there or not, and whether we get to see, how much we get to see, we'll find out. I know the fans aren't gonna be available and they're not gonna be allowed to training camp. And it's really a disappointment for the fans and not for the players too

to have the fans around. But looking it is what it is. We're gonna play football and and this and then and talking about a couple of other things to clean up here, John, before is just a couple of things too. You know, the practice squad is gonna be a lot more flexible this year, allowing guys to come and go from that practice squad with a lot more

fluidity back and forth. And John, I believe I think I heard that the Injured Reserve is gonna then number is gonna expand uh into where um if my if what I've heard and read is correct, that if somebody does test positive during the season, they can go on i R for three weeks once they once say test negative for two tests, then they can come back after a three week period, And I think that's I think that's a pretty good decision by by the people running

the league. Well, you have to have some kind of resource when when guys are going to get sick, guys are going to get hurt, and you're you're gonna have to have some flexibility both in the practice roster and guys that are on I R. And I think that's a perfect blend of what you need because you have

to have that flexibility. If a guy didn't have an a c L, he didn't have an achilles, he didn't have a career or a season ending injury, he's gonna be able to come back from COVID and be able to go on I R for a couple of weeks, hopefully be able to test negative and then come right back on the roster. And you're gonna have guys that are gonna have the regular flu that aren't gonna be down for maybe a week or two, So you're not gonna want to have guys uh in the locker room

in the room. You need a bigger roster on that practice squad to be able to pull guys from and other teams can't kind of pluck your best players. You're gonna have some kind of stability on I R or stability on a practice roster that you're not used to in years past. Now, John, we normally wrapped this thing up a little story time and might as well talk about running backs, and uh, I was fortunate to uh to spend ten years with the Dolphins and played against

a lot of great running backs. I still say Erro Camerell maybe the best player I've ever played against, But against Chuck Munsei, O J. Simpson, Frank o'harris um. I mean, you to go on and on and on some the great running backs. But when I think about the Dolphin running backs, also had the opportunity to play with some great running backs, Delvin Williams, Larry Zack when he came back for a year, Benny Malone played with Betty for

a for a couple of years. But the guy that I I that that that to me was, you know, it was the most productive back that I think that I had the opportunity to play with, and really one of the great guys and really one of the great Dolphins of all time. It was number twenty two Tony Nathan. Tony came out of Alabama. I believe he was a

second or third round draft pick. Um that came in came to the Dolphins, and I was in an era where we picked up uh Dwight Stevenson, Don McNeil, and Tony Nathan, three guy and Bob Bob Hour all out of Alabama, and all of them played a major, major part in the success that this football team had in the seventies and eighties. But you know, Tony to me is one of those guys that, um it just doesn't get the credit he deserves. I mean, he did everything. He blocked well, he caught the ball as well as

anybody who was They used to run. We used to run that half back short option, which I hated, and I had to try to cover him that letter couldn't do it, or Usy trying to grab his jersey and trip him or or do something stupid like that. But uh, you know, Tony Matson had some big games and big

times and really really a good runner for us. And I just remember sitting back and I get him the plane and Tony always said, on the very back of the plane, last seat right back by the by the bathrooms back in the bulkhead and you have two seats to himself. And always used to go back there, and I used to get it was the I called it the ice room. Tony would be. Tony would have so much ice wrapped around him you could hardly see him sometimes. But but that's how he played, you know, he played

every down. Uh. He was a three down guy. As I said he would. He would block as hard as he would run. Uh. And he was a smart player, knew everything. And and I'm really fortunately play with with a guy like Tony Nathan to the career who would really had a lot of great success with his football team. Like I said, I think, to me, probably one of the more underrated players that the Dolphins have had on their uh, on their roster, in the in the entire

history of the football team. And uh, you know, he had a he's got a movie out in a movie out that came out a couple of years ago called wood Lawn. And it's a great if you know, watch it look at I mean, look, hell, everyone's all I gotta do is watch TV, now, you know, I know

lan and and look it up. Wood Lawn and uh, it's the story about Tony coming out of high school and segregated, segregated Alabama and that whole situation and and his commitment to uh TO, his commitments to to um to to to to his his UH his God can could, commitment to his family, his commitment to his wife when she met her in high school, and his commitment to be the best player that he could be for whoever

he was playing for. And it's just a story, and it's a great story about one of the great Dolphins of all time. And if if people haven't seen it, I would I would recommend it highly. During this time where Becky I know to do but watch TV, watch something that's really good, uh, and then take a look at a woodlawn with Tony Nathan. You know what's cool.

You know you mentioned the uh the list of running backs that you were with BO at your time and the Dolphins either just when you got there just after and Tony Nathan is one of those guys that it seemed like he did everything and he and he kind of opened up that type of position for a Miami

Dolphins running back. You know, you go back to the early years and you think about you know, Merk and Zonk and Jim Kick and the way that that that trio kind of got it done for the Miami Dolphins over their heyday, over the glory years of the Miami Dolphins.

And then you got to that next that next set of running backs, and Tony Nathan really made what Jim Jensen did made it look easy because Tony Nathan did all of those things, uh, for Don Strock and for David Woodley and whoever was playing quarterback, you know, at the at the beginning, and then all of a sudden that that position kind of everybody had to have a guy like Tony Nathan because you were running those options routes, and you had guys in space, and you had you know,

linebackers that weren't weren't really used to going out and covering a guy man to man. It was always zone, you know, basically zone. Then you got a chance to go man to man. It was more of a mismatch for certain guys. So I always remember watching Tony and just being in awe of how easy he made everything look. And you're right, I don't think he deserved He got the credit he deserved because he did just about everything a running back could do, and he did it at

a high level. And there's been so many great running backs, you know, through the history of the Miami Dolphins. But well I put my I put Tony Nathan up against any of them. Say he did just about everything you wanted to do. Yeah, no doubt about. Just just a wonderful guy. So good to good to remember and reflect on Tony Nathan. Then good to talk about. It's good to talk about football. Right around the corner, John, I don't know what it's gonna be next time we come

on next week. Uh. Things could be dramatically different, that could be the same. Uh. Another thing, John, before we go, Um is the uh, you know, the the the Washington franchise changing their name. And I think it's I think it's due time. You know, I grew up, you know, you know, we played against Washington in the Super Bowl.

I remember, you know, watch growing up watching Washington Redskins when they know Sonny Jurgensen and Billy Kilmer and and those guys and those great football team that they had up there. Um, but I think they're they're doing the right thing. Uh, not really, you know, not really, you know, I was looking for a little snazzy, snazzy nickname to rechange. But the I guess they're gonna go with the Washington football team for a while. I guess is which to

me is pretty asinine. But I know it's short order, and I know that's not gonna be the the name is going forward. But uh, changes are happening, and uh, you know, change you're happening all around the world, and uh, and this is just part of it. And I think it's for the better. Everything's better for the league, it's better for the Washington franchise, and I think it's better for uh, for the fans and everybody involved. I just hope that they're they're able to come up with a

nickname that people can all embrace and they like. You know, I know that the Seattle hockey franchise just came out with a nickname, and I was kind of scratching my head about that one. But I'm just hoping that, you know, the fans of the Washington team now you can't embrace the nickname and and come together around it, because I guess as a kid, I never really took much credence

in nicknames. I always, you know, felt like that was just an athletic name for for something, you know, And I never really uh felt passion one way or the other, because I just thought it was a name of a franchise at a form of entertainment that I was watching, you know, like the Vikings were always my team, uh you know when growing up, But I didn't realize that what really a Viking did way back when, you know. So I was just a fan of the team and the colors and and and that's how easy it was

for me. Yeah, you know, my my first I remember you growing up in the Bay area. Um, I was a Stanford fan. I like Stanford. The only reason I like Stanford's because it was the first place, first college football game i'd ever gone to see a big stadium, you know. And Stanford they're playing in the USC or somebody, and I want to go to Stanford. And then and then I set up my transcripts. And by the way, I'm still way be hear back from them. Send them now, bone,

send them now. You've much smarter now than you were then. I'm guaranteed a letter from them. They said, can you send your transcripts? And that's the last I ever heard. But I remember when I went when I want to watch Stanford. They released Stanford Indians originally, and I never, I never I like their uniforms, like the colors, I never.

But then and then they have actually changed it to the Stanford Cardinal because you know, they're some of their students and people that you know fell to was so so this is this is nothing new. It's it's done, been done before, and it's been done a number of times at the collegiate level, less so at the at the professional level. But uh, you know, it's it's it's up, it's it's it's it's about time where the NFL and these resting sports get up to get up to the

whatever center were in that one. I don't even know what's event you were, because whatever it is, I ain't gonna last to the end of this one. So we've hatter. But um, just getting up to date, I guess. And then uh, and and changing with the times and and

doing what's right more importantly, doing what's right. Yeah, I I echo that, and I just I'm so happy that we're able to start getting closer to some semblance of football and training camp and hopefully, you know, the COVID nineteen around the country starts to calm down a little bit more and we can we can open up a little bit more and and start to enjoy human to human uh, you know, correspondence and being able just to do things a little bit closer to normal, and which

football will be I know that. You know, hockey starts around the corner, Baseball is gonna start very soon. Basketball is in their kind of preseason playing games, and uh, the NFL right around the corner with training camp. So uh, you know, it's a good time right now for hopefully the country if that can just get those numbers down

a little bit and and people can enjoy what's out there. Well, you know what it's and and I know it's a it's a it's a touchy subject out there, but you know, you you know, I've come to I don't say embrace it, but you know I wear a mask everywhere I go, everywhere I'm in public with people, I wear a mask. And I think if if all of us would do that. And I know there's a segment of our population and populations around the world and just are completely adamant against it.

I don't understand why, but you know, you you believe what you believe. But I think if you know, if everyone would would bite the bullet and just put the masks on whenever, whenever you're around people, maybe this thing will be over sooner than later. And if not, sure hope so it can be wait and see what happens. I sure hope so because it seems like for everyone it's been very difficult, you know, for four months, five months, and and you're hoping that uh, you know, any anything

in every individual can do to help suppress it. What would meet your menuts? Well, I know football is riding around the corner. July training camps start it all. It will be watching. But more importantly, John, you and I we're back on the air. You understand listening they can look at our other pushes every once a week ago for those guys doing here and I can't get there, well, we're here, We're not going anywhere. We'll see you next year, next week on the audible again you can see us

face to face. Then for God, John, Ki, Jamie, I'm Kimbo Camper for Logan to call, Jeff Griffith, Carol, thanks for all your help and Johnny will catch up with you next week. It sounds good. Both Hi,

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