Claude or Clawd
Jan 27, 2026•48 min
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Episode description
Andrew and Justin talk through the recent viral success of Clawdbot, an open-source AI personal assistant that's taken the web by storm over the weekend. After Justin debates installing it on a Mac Mini, the two discuss the other Claude — namely, Claude's founder Dario Amodei, who continues to issue "dire warnings" over the rise of AI.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro
00:47 - Clawdbot
09:26 - Dario Amodei's Dire Warnings
37:06 - The near-future of AI-generated art
44:58 - Wrap-up
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