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The Art Show

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Visual artists tell you why and how they create! From studio visits, intimate interviews, and live issues, we take art out of the gallery and into your ears.
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Shanysa McConville looks back over 65000 years of art

For much of the last century, in museums, the works of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander artists were treated as something outside the main story — consigned to a footnote of history or a side room in major galleries. A new exhibition at the Potter Museum of Art wants to put the record straight. Titled 65,000 Years: A Short History of Australian Art, it puts — front and centre — the remarkable work of Indigenous artists and places them in conversation with the colonial art that often treated...

Jun 25, 202525 min

Grace Herbert tees off on the unnecessary lines between art and sport

From feminist beginnings to kitsch commercialism, minigolf has a rich history. But what happens when you let artists loose to design their own holes? Forget white walls and hushed tones—today we're heading to a golf course. Curator Grace Herbert explains the ideas behind Swingers , where putters are swapped for latex tails and square balls add a unique challenge.

Jun 18, 202525 min

Arcangelo Sassolino embraces the possibility of change

Arcangelo Sassolino's work captures a suspended instant: just before collapse, just after ignition. At the 2022 Venice Biennale, Sassolino paid homage to Caravaggio's Beheading of Saint John the Baptist. But where Caravaggio painted light and shadow, Sassolino sculpts with fire and steel: molten light heated to 1500 degrees, falling from above into dark pools of water. In his latest exhibition at MONA, In the End, The Beginning, materials are pushed to their edge and sometimes beyond....

Jun 11, 202525 min

Del Kathryn Barton’s creative world-building project imagines empowered, spirited women

Del Kathryn Barton exorcised her rage in her critically acclaimed feature film Blaze, but its aftermath is grief. You wouldn't know it if you cast your eye around her Paddington studio: wide-eyed sylphs, sibyls and sages emerge from minutely detailed canvases where chequerboards, dots and strawberries are laden with new meaning. Much like a cinema auteur, DKB is engaged in a world-building project and it's a place that brims with female power and agency. Who else but Del Kathryn Barton joins The...

Jun 04, 202525 min

Drawing with sound underground: Jason Maling’s magnum opus Diagrammatica

Jason Maling works in the expanded field where — through the interface of technology, screens and a sound system — the sonic and the visual are conducted before a live audience. Diagrammatica was inspired by physics diagrams, but it's grown into a beast: part drawing, part durational performance and part musical composition. And it all takes place underground — in a gallery known rather ominously as Slot 9 — sandwiched between two rail lines under Melbourne's commuter transit hub, Federation Squ...

May 28, 202525 min

Thai-Australian artist Nathan Beard’s ironic take on museum artefacts

Recently on the show we met Filipino artist Pio Abad to hear about his Turner Prize nominated exhibition 'To Those Sitting in Darkness' which re-presented museum objects to reveal hidden histories and the deep legacies of colonialism. Thai-Australian multidisciplinary artist Nathan Beard takes a different, less didactic, approach but, like Pio Abad, is working with cultural objects that are largely unseen. In Beard's case, Buddha heads made for ritual use, squirrelled away in the British Museum....

May 21, 202525 min

Frank by name: Dale Frank on taxidermy and his greatest living artwork

Although he's one of Australia's most established, commercially successful and prolific artists, Dale Frank is a reluctant interview subject. Eccentric, reclusive, visionary, trailblazer — a sublime colourist, even a likeable arsehole — these are just some of the ways he's described. Which makes it even more remarkable that he agreed to be the subject of a documentary feature film — a rare thing for a living Australian artist. With a menagerie of exotic taxidermied animals and the odd studio ass...

May 14, 202525 min

Olfactory artist Nadia Vitlin infuses her artwork with scent

Sydney-based artist Nadia Vitlin works with olfaction — our sense of smell — infusing her artwork, whether it be clay or paint, to create bespoke pieces that mimic the transportive power of scent: one of the most evocative, deeply personal and memory-laden senses humans possess. She experiments in the fourth dimension, and it all began with leaves from the garden and spices you might find in your kitchen. Vitlin's background is in science, a helpful start when you consider that scent is carried ...

May 07, 202525 min

Pio Abad on his 2024 Turner Prize nominated body of work

Just as historical objects in museum collections embody certain histories — of British imperialism and modernity — they also map loss and disappearance for those in former colonial states. Pio Abad, whose work is "concerned with the personal and political entanglements of objects," has mined the stories embedded in certain cultural material such as kris, ceremonial swords from Mindanao, and a tiara worn by Imelda Marcos, the wife of Philippines dictator Ferdinand Marcos. The result, To Those Sit...

Apr 30, 202525 min

One of Australia's most successful art partnerships

They used to lay-buy contemporary art together when they were low-paid gallery workers, forging a business relationship early on. Now, Ursula Sullivan and Joanna Strumpf are one of Australia's most successful art partnerships in terms of the cultural impact of the artists they represent — Tony Albert, Lindy Lee, Polly Borland, ex de Medici, Sam Leach, and Ramesh Mario Nithiyendran, to name a few. This year, they're celebrating two decades together at the head of Sullivan + Strumpf. What's even m...

Apr 23, 202525 min

How a child’s boomerang returns in the latest TarraWarra Biennial

It was while researching the provenance of a child’s boomerang, found in topsoil near the site of Melbourne Zoo, that Kimberley Moulton found the key to her curatorial vision for We Are Eagles, the latest edition of the TarraWarra Biennial. The Yorta Yorta curator worked with artefacts and other historical material at Melbourne Museum for years before moving into contemporary art in her current role at the Tate in London. Kim explains how that boomerang unearthed a long-buried and disturbing his...

Apr 09, 202525 min

Khaled Sabsabi speaks

The Lebanese-born Australian artist Khaled Sabsabi joins The Art Show exclusively to talk about the profound impact of the decision to unceremoniously dump him as Australia's representative artist to the 2026 Venice Biennale. The decision exposed the arts funding body Creative Australia to claims of political interference, racism and censorship — emptying Australia's Pavilion in Venice after our most successful outing ever in 2024 and leading to a series of open letters from different parts of A...

Apr 01, 202525 min

Warraba Weatherall’s first institutional solo

For Kamilaroi artist Warraba Weatherall, art that isn't a catalyst for something—that isn't driven by critique of gatekeeping museums, the criminal justice system, or the wilful historical amnesia and complacency—isn't worth making. Warraba has just unveiled his first institutional solo at Sydney's Museum of Contemporary Art, laying bare his politics in a manifesto of simmering rage catalysed into monumental sculptures, anti-monuments, and a tense 8-minute film that explores the violence of the ...

Mar 25, 202525 min

The truth behind Vincent Fantauzzo's verisimilitude

In art, verisimilitude — representing things as they appear — is something like telling the unvarnished truth and it makes perfect sense that it's the form in which Vincent Fantauzzo is most comfortable. His first commercial artworks were actually counterfeit 50 dollar notes, just one of the uncomfortable truths which he tells in his new autobiography, Unveiled. Although his childhood in the outer suburbs of Melbourne was wracked by endemic poverty and a distant but physically and emotionally vi...

Mar 18, 202525 min

Robots aside, Robert Andrew draws inspiration from country

Robert Andrew's artwork features simple robotic machines, with a stylus that impulsively draws or leaves a trace; not so much artificial intelligence as incidental happenstance. Although he works with technology, Andrew has always been deeply inspired by country. So it made sense that he was invited to make work for a new group exhibition at Bundanon, the timeless yet scarred landscape that figured in the paintings of its previous owner, Arthur Boyd. Robert and Daniel chat about wombats, waterco...

Mar 11, 202525 min

Nici Cumpston: Indigenous artist turned curator to lead overseas museum

Nici Cumpston has played a transformative role at the Art Gallery of South Australia. Over the past 16 years she has driven First Nations curatorial practice to new heights, shaping what began as a biennial exhibition into a festival of contemporary Indigenous art that surveys artmaking across the continent. As Tarnanthi reaches its tenth anniversary, Nici has accepted a new challenge overseas — becoming the first Indigenous director of one of the world's great collections of Aboriginal art hous...

Mar 04, 202525 min

An art historical approach to the work of Khaled Sabsabi

When questions were raised in Federal Parliament about two artworks by Khaled Sabsabi from 2006 and 2007, it was enough to convince Creative Australia to dump the artist from next year's Venice Biennale. The board hoped to avoid a "prolonged and divisive" public debate, but the unparalleled move to rescind the invitation to Sabsabi to represent Australia risks creating has had the opposite effect: compromising artistic freedom and the appearnance of arms-length independence of the arts funding a...

Feb 25, 202525 min

Polymorphous performers, The Huxleys, engender joy and seriousness

Driven by their mission statement to create a queer wonderland, Will and Garett Huxley are true polymorphs. A real-life couple who rival camp predecessors Gilbert and George, Will and Garett Huxley talk about their long-term collaboration and the transformation and reinvention that exemplifies queer experience. Garrett speaks about finding his voice as a Gumbaynggir and Yorta Yorta person ahead of The Huxleys' performance at the First Nations concert gala, Blak & Deadly ....

Feb 18, 202525 min

Whatever happened to Ricky Swallow?

After rising to prominence locally in the early 2000s, Ricky Swallow left Australia and built an international art career with his small-scale, often intimate bronzes. Speaking from LA, Ricky talks about his unconscious move towards abstraction, his first foray into public art for Sydney's Museum of Contemporary Art, and the profound impact of the recent California fires.

Feb 11, 202525 min

Topher Campbell splays his 'rukus' heart

What began as a living archive of queer Black British experience in the early 2000s has morphed into visual memoir for the interdisciplinary artist Topher Campbell. Told through three of his arthouse films including the uncompromising Fetish (2018) where he walks the streets of New York completely naked, an Afrofuturistic sculpture and intimate sound work composed of missed WhatsApp messages, Campbell isn't afraid to take risks. His installation at the Tate Modern, My rukus! Heart (2024) is both...

Feb 04, 202525 min

Latai Taumoepeau: This is not a drill

Latai Taumoepeau is an artist who thinks big. Not only is her subject matter expansive—the impact of global warming and rising sea levels in the South Pacific—increasingly she produces works of remarkable scale. Deep Communion sung in minor (ArchipelaGO, THIS IS NOT A DRILL) , which premiered at Venice as part of Re-Stor(y)ing Oceania and is now on at Artspace in Sydney, uses musical scores and sculptural interactive machines that simulate paddle boards to bring the immediacy of the climate cris...

Jan 28, 202525 min

CJ Hendry and who gets to decide 'what is art'

Blurring the line between commercial and high art, self-described Brisbane bogan CJ Hendry is a social media phenomenon. Her seductive, hyperreal drawings of luxury and consumer goods, combined with marketing nous and a flair for self-promotion, have earned the New York-based expat a global following and commercial success. While the core of her practice is drawing, CJ also mounts elaborate conceptual exhibitions that tweak her audience's innate sense of childlike wonder, and that's where she sa...

Jan 21, 202525 min

The Art Show

Great conversations with visual artists, gallery and museum directors and curators.

Jan 14, 202554 min

Laura Jones on the Archibald prize plus Jennifer Higgie on the art of interviewing artists

Daniel catches up with Archibald Prize winner Laura Jones , who painted author Tim Winton. Painter and sitter share a passion for WA's Ningaloo reef and its survival amid climate crisis. Unusually, Laura's own portrait is also on display – she entered it in the concurrent Sulman Prize, on at the Art Gallery of NSW. Interviewing visual artists is just one of the things that Jennifer Higgie has mastered in her decades-long career at the helm of Frieze magazine and as a writer, reviewer and podcast...

Jan 07, 202554 min

Joyful ceramics plus a Timor Leste artist heads to the Venice Biennale

Ceramicist Vipoo Srivilasa’s work is beautiful, playful and highly technical…and he’s having a moment, featuring in several exhibitions during 2024 including the MAKE Award , Generation Clay and re/JOY . His work is a beacon of light and happiness in dark times. Maria Madeira escaped the Indonesian invasion of Timor Leste in 1975, to end up in a refugee camp in Portugal. In 2005 she returned as the first artist to hold a solo exhibition there, ever. Now the artist, who came to Australia in 1983,...

Dec 31, 202454 min

Street art in ascendence; the art of RONE. Plus Judy Watson's life of art

The artist RONE was always attracted to street art's impermanence. He's since moved beyond street art and into large scale installations, involving space, sound, music, light and large scale art pieces, that breathe life into the rooms of decaying mansions and inside spaces. RONE's "Time" was on at AGWA Centenary Galleries in Western Australia For four decades Judy Watson has been making layered, ethereal art about profound and difficult subjects: frontier violence, dispossession and ecological ...

Dec 24, 202454 min

Archie Moore wins at Venice Biennale + Leonardo Da Vinci + Nikki Lam

Archie Moore won the top honour at one of the world's most prestigious and oldest art festivals – the Venice Biennale -- for a monumental work showing thousands of years of family lineage, and invoking lives lost under the colonial state. Monsignor Alberto Rocca is an Italian priest and art curator who has a singular job: accompanying pages from Leonardo Da Vinci 's Codex Atlanticus, to the other side of the world. This Codex is the largest collection of Leonardo's drawings and notes, made up of...

Dec 17, 202454 min

Sarah Contos looks over the Eye Lash Horizon, APA celebrates Intimate Imaginaries and Monica Rani Rudhar on personal stories writ large

Great conversations wiIn her complex installations, featuring dozens on objects and materials, Sarah Contos imbues and perceives a sensuality within everyday objects. She explores the mind, the womb, the soul and the belly of her major new exhibition, Eye Lash Horizon . Monica Rani Rudhar explores how art has deepened her connection with her family and explains the deeply personal root of her large-scale jewellery. And Mark Smith and Anthony Fitzpatrick celebrate 50 years of Arts Project Austral...

Dec 10, 202454 min

The virtual and real worlds of Cao Fei + printmaking with Karen Rogers and Sean Richard Smith

One of the most influential artists in the world, Cao Fei has documented China's rapid urbanisation and digital revolutions for over two decades. In a new exhibition at AGNSW, My City is Yours , she traces the connections between major cities like Beijing and Sydney, and explores how the digital and physical worlds connect. And Karen Rogers and Sean Richard Smith share the collaborative process behind printmaking. How does this act of translation change or expand a work of art, and what is the r...

Dec 03, 202454 min

How are a new generation of diasporic Australian artists working with their cultural material?

The histories our families share can be in the stories we tell, the food we eat, the objects that are passed down from one generation to the next. Finding our own place in those histories can be difficult, but it can also be exciting and crucial. How are Australian artists from the Asian diaspora creating their own stories? And how are they reckoning with the charged history of museum collections? Leyla Stevens uses her camera as a tool to engage with interconnected webs of song, performance, an...

Nov 26, 20241 hr 10 min
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