¶ Creating a Community
Welcome to another episode of . Before we Hit Record , I have Linda Sadu right here and if you've never heard of her , hi Linda . Thank you for being here , by the way .
Yeah , I'm excited . Thank you for having me .
You're welcome . It's going to be a fun conversation . So the listener , who might not have ever heard of you , you are a lead generation strategist , a super connector and expert in creating compelling personality quizzes that attract numerous new subscribers .
In two words , I would have just called you the quiz queen because that's how I first learned about you , but I am happy to let the listener know Linda . Linda is the creator of the Mixer Mind .
So , like you've heard a number of guests so far on this podcast karen gillen , holly hillier , marisa corcoran and tracy patterson I think there was one more dallas travers .
These are phenomenal people who I met in the mixer mind and all I can say is it's such a cool environment where it's low key People joined to like they joined knowing that we're here to partnership with each other . And I think the quote that you said , linda , in order to increase visibility , you need to dang it . I forgot the right . What's the finish ?
It for me , please .
Yeah , so this is my sticky message that I came up with In order to gain more visibility , you have to create meaningful connections . And then , in order to create meaningful connections , you do this through people experiencing you .
There we go , so a bit of housekeeping before we get to know each other , because that's what Before we Hit Record is about Too many times . I've heard other podcasts and they're great , phenomenal . It's just that the guest , the speaker , the host , even we just we , including me can just come across as one dimensional .
You know , and sure we're there to show up and deliver like strategies and tips and tricks , you know surrounding our expertise , but it's like I mean we're living , breathing people , with things we like and don't like and believes in and families , right , linda .
Yeah .
Yeah , and so this is where we get to know each other . You get to know me , I get to know you , the listener gets to know both of us and it works out pretty well . It's a pretty cool , authentic conversation , housekeeping before we get started , if my voice is new to you , hi , I'm Quajo , the host of the Art of Online Business . I am rather new .
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Thank you . I'm honored to be here too . I just love your energy , yeah , so I'm really grateful for this experience . Thank you for having me .
Yay , Well , it's an honor to have you . I mean , really , how did you pull off such a cool community ? I was sitting on the couch downstairs with my wife and saying , if I could do this whole thing again , I would love to like create a community like Linda's , Like your mixer mind .
It's just , it's low pressure and the people that I've connected inside are so . They're just cool . So how did you do this ? Where did this idea come from ?
Oh man , okay , so I guess I would have to go back to when I did my first online summit in 2021 . And I thought all the experts that I was interviewing were just so incredible that they had to know each other . And I ended up having a virtual mixer to introduce them .
And after the first virtual mixer , everybody was like , oh my gosh , can we just do this again ? And I remember Brenna McGowan , a mutual friend of ours . She was like if I could just do virtual mixers every day , I think my life would be complete . Like she said something that just loved it so much .
Right , and I started to kind of follow the breadcrumbs , I guess . Like I was like , okay , well , if people want more of this , I should do more of it , because to me it was fun . You know , people may not know back when I was in corporate , I was in pharmaceutical sales .
But , yeah , I was in pharmaceutical sales and I worked in Ohio and I also worked in Kentucky . Part of my territory was in Kentucky and so back when I was not even owning my own business , I would bring people together in just random different ways .
One of my favorite ways when I lived in Ohio was doing a Kentucky Derby party and I would invite my friends over , dress up , we would wear hats , I would serve mint juleps and , you know , we would bid on the horses , and it was just so fun , and so I love a good themed party .
I always was this way back in college , as well as just bringing people together and having fun , and it was really just .
I guess in my design I don't know Like I had a human design reading with Danielle Laura , who's also in the mixer mind , and she's like yes , linda , you're , you're a two , I'm a two and a six , or maybe it's a four , I think it's a four and six . I'm a four and a six , I believe , and the four is a community builder .
So as I started to learn more about myself , I realized that I have so much fun to bring people together and I do think in this online space there's a different dynamic of making business right , like it's like usually a coach or a mastermind , and I guess at some point I was like , look , we're all experts .
Can't we just all come together and like talk about behind the scenes and try to figure out how to support each other ? I mean , the rising tide lifts all boats right . And so I started to follow the breadcrumbs and I was doing these virtual mixers and people just love them . And I realized it didn't matter who I asked , everybody would say yes .
So I remember I was so nervous to ask certain people I'm like you know , hey , dallas Travers , would you want to attend this ? She said yes , I invite Gemma Bonham Carter . She says yes , I'm like everybody wants this . And so eventually , it was a dear friend of mine , zafira Rajan , which I believe you know . She's in the Mixer Mind .
She was in your peer pod and she told me , linda , you need to monetize this . And I'm thinking , how can I monetize this ? This is just too fun . And sure enough , eventually I realized that this was all I wanted to do myself . Kind of going back to what Brenna was saying . I was like this is all I want to do .
And because it's fun to have , you know , connections , it's fun to support other entrepreneurs , it's fun to have strategic conversations , it's fun to mastermind with peers , and so I just kind of , you know , a mastermind with peers , and so I just kind of , you know , launched the Mixer Mind and that's what brought us together , actually ?
Well , I think I I think I DM'd you trying to get in , but somebody didn't read my DM for like two months . I was so happy , though . Once you finally responded that you let me in after the doors had closed , I was so happy that you proudly responded that you let me in after the doors have closed .
Yeah , I felt terrible about that . So one thing we didn't share , which kind of plays a big role in the Mixed Remind , actually is last year I got diagnosed with thyroid cancer and it was a good diagnosis . Everything was like you're going to be fine . It's textbook , you know gold standard procedure . That's what the doctor told me .
He was like you know if we could treat every cancer . I'm sorry what ?
I was going to say sorry , that sounds like something a doctor would say . I'm like , is there ?
ever a good diagnosis . Right , like that's what they tell us when you get thyroid cancer . They're like this is a good diagnosis , but it actually kind of is once I learned more about that .
So what he was trying to say was that they have a way to treat thyroid cancer that's gold standard , that they wish they could replicate for other cancers which they just don't have . So after I understood that I realized it was .
You know , you take the thyroid out , you do radioactive iodine and the rest of the organs gone , so there's no chance of usually for it to like regrow , for the cancer to regrow , because there's nothing there . But what I didn't realize was going to happen , which he didn't tell me about , was the complication that happened . It was actually this time last year .
I had a blood clot after my second surgery and it collapsed in my throat a week after the second surgery and that was actually a life threatening situation . Yeah , it wasn't good .
So this was a pretty big blood clot . Then my gosh .
Yeah , I'm sure it was , Because as soon as I woke up from the second surgery I was telling him I couldn't breathe and I actually had a panic attack within the first hour after waking up and they kept telling me it was just anxiety , I was nervous . But this isn't what I felt the first surgery , cause in the first surgery they just took half the thyroid .
They didn't think it was cancer and then the pathology report was like oh , it is cancer , so now we have to go back in and take the rest of it out . So I had two surgeries and for the entire week after April 19 last year I kept telling my husband , I kept telling the doctor I actually went to the ER , I think two or three times .
I kept telling people I couldn't breathe and when I would Google it it would say hematoma , blood clot , and I'm like , oh my gosh , this could kill you you know , so then I would have a panic attack because nobody was listening to me , I was getting gaslighted . People were just like what are you talking about ? You're fine . And I'm like , no , I'm not fine .
I've been in this body , I can't breathe , yeah , I can't breathe , yeah . And then finally , on April 25 , the hematoma had collapsed in my throat and if you Google this , it can be problematic because if it obstructs your airways , that could be detrimental and lead to death . Luckily , it didn't do that . I was five minutes from the hospital .
I got to the hospital , they stabilized me and I was in an emergency surgery within a few hours after that and I was okay . I was finally okay and when I woke up from that emergency surgery , the doctor was like you were right . Way to be an advocate for yourself .
You were right instead of we were wrong . Sorry for not taking you seriously , oh my gosh . Well , two things Stay away from google . I feel like every time I go to google a symptom in my body it's telling me I'm the worst , like I'm going to die , and I just , oh geez . But my wife had thyroid cancer and she had hers removed .
Was yours hypo or hyper or hyper ? Honestly , I don't know . Probably hypo , I think . I think hypo is an underproducing thyroid , I think , and hyper is an overactive thyroid , overreactive . I don't know , I don't even know , but hers was hypo , so she had hers . Well , she tells me this was before we were together , but she didn't slit her , so sorry .
So anybody watching the YouTube video can see me go like this , and what I meant is she had a big like swollen throat and they removed it and it was I don't know if it was like grapefruit size or something really , really large . She said her neck got a lot smaller once they took out the growth and the thyroid .
So yeah , I think mine was the size of like a tangerine and like it was a pretty big nodule and it had . You know , eventually I had had it for a while actually , and they tested it the first time and there was no cancer .
But actually when you do testing , the reason why I just had it surgically removed the second time once I realized it was bigger is because technically , when they do biopsies it might not get cancer cells . So I just wanted to know . I was like get this thing out because it's too big at this point .
I think it was causing a lot of symptoms when it was to that point because I was having a hard time . I was just really tired and I even think I remember I was having memory loss and I think it was because I wasn't getting enough oxygen to my brain . Yeah , it was kind of freaky and so I thought I had long COVID . I went to the doctor .
I'm like I think I have long COVID , I don't feel very good and , you know , come to find out it was cancer . But the reason why I'm bringing this story up is after the hematoma collapsed I had to clear my calendar . This time last year . I was like I have to have my health . If I don't have my health , there is no business .
And , matter of fact , I couldn't even talk . After I had essentially three surgeries in eight weeks on my throat . I could not even talk , and so I really needed to rest . And at that time I realized that my community , who was part of my first mixer mind they were sending me gift cards for grocery delivery .
They ended up getting together and helping me raise money to get dog walking services for my dog because they knew it . And I even had a couple people volunteer to host zoom calls for me . And you know , at that point I knew that this community wasn't just about propelling my business forward .
They became the lifeline of my business during that time sounds like good people yeah , it's just . And so at that point it was like I knew I needed to double down on this because I mean , that's what it's all about is community like we ? The rising tide lifts all boats , and so I fully experienced that embodied this last year .
¶ From Ohio to Seattle
And so , when going back to what you said about the Instagram , I there was only so much I could handle and so I eliminated Instagram and wasn't really doing Instagram much . And you had sent me a couple of DMs and you know how it goes into that folder where you don't know unless you go check it Like message .
requests Yep and finally , I checked that folder and my heart sank because I saw that you were interested in the picture and I was like , oh no , I feel like such a jerk , and so I wanted to make it right , and we let you know , we obviously let you in .
I was like , oh no , I feel like such a jerk , and so I wanted to make it right , and we let you know , we obviously let you in .
I was like , if you're still interested , even the the doors closed , like we would love to have you , and that's kind of like where , like , this whole story is to tell you , like that's how it all came about , and so I'm so happy yeah , you're in the well yeah , I mean , anybody listening to this podcast for a bit has heard me talk about it and even like
people will email me .
Oh yeah , you like one of my clients , he's a , he's a tax guy for expats and he , he emailed me and he's like I think I heard you say something about it and he gave it another name . But I was like , oh yeah , the big survived . Yeah , you got it . You got an email and doesn't see how good of a fit would be for you .
So , like I want to go back and talk about something that you probably haven't talked about before , but back in . So first of all , you said Ohio yes , Territory , when you were back in pharmaceutical sales . But then you said , if I understood that right , you went to university in Ohio .
Well , I went to Wright State University . I did not go to Ohio State University . However , I did move to Columbus after college and loved going to those football games . It was so much fun . Yeah , I lived in Columbus for a while after I graduated and moved from Dayton to Columbus , Ohio .
So you're from Ohio . I'm from Ohio , born and raised yeah , gotcha , but now you live in Seattle .
Correct .
So there's a couple of things . First of all , thank you for giving me a geography lesson . I did not understand when you said Kentucky and the Kentucky Derby . I'm like , oh no , ohio and Kentucky do they touch ? And I'm looking at Google Maps , they do indeed share a border . So that was intriguing to me . How did you get to ?
Because so my wife is from Michigan , which I do know also shares another border with Ohio , because we drove to Ohio once . How did you get from Ohio all the way out to Seattle when ? Because I'm from Seattle , well near Seattle .
So I feel like I have so many questions Where's your wife from real quick in Michigan .
A small place , the same city that Kid Rock was born in .
Costa .
Romeo Michigan .
Okay , I've never been , but we've gone up there a few times . Most people from Ohio like to travel south . They'll go to like Florida all the time for vacation . I'm like , why aren't you guys going to Michigan ? You should really check out . I mean , it's so pretty up there at the upper peninsula . That area is just absolutely beautiful .
So I spent a lot of time in Michigan . But , to answer your question , I met my husband , who's originally from England , in Ohio and he and I started dating . And he was working at JP Morgan Chase at the time .
He had just taken that job out of college and he was trying to , you know , move up the ladder and so he interviewed for this big opportunity for a wholesaler and you know we had been together for about three years , we were dating and then we went on a big trip .
He always goes to England , he always likes to go to England and visit family , family and we attached a trip to paris , france . So it was like a week in england and a week in france , and I was hoping that he was going to propose to me because you know paris like he'd been together for three years .
I'm like is it gonna happen ?
and honestly this is awful to say I checked his suitcase because I was like , is there a ring in there ? Like I need to know .
Oh , you're serious .
Yeah , I did . He knows this , by the way , I didn't find it . So , we spent a week in England . I was like okay , you know he's not going to propose by around family , obviously , Like we're on our way to Paris , the entire trip goes by . No proposal and I'm like oh , and I finally just threw in the towel . I was like you know what I love this guy .
It's fine , I don't need to get proposed to in .
Paris .
And when you know , the very last few hours , we go back to our hotel we had an amazing trip , by the way and he's like let's just go grab a drink at the top of the hotel and we could see . It was like 11 o'clock at night , Well , just before 11 . But we could see the Eiffel Tower as we grabbed drinks yeah .
And he proposes , finally , and then the Eiffel Tower starts like twingling and doing its thing and it was just magical right , and it was . It was just magical Right and I was so happy that it happened . But two weeks after the proposal he gets that job that he interviewed for and we moved to San Francisco within like a few weeks .
It was very fast and I realized at that moment , when you do get engaged or get married , it is sickness and health better or worse . You know all the things , including moving across country for a new job opportunity .
So , yeah , I had to quit my job and then I ended up working for a competitor pharmaceutical company because there was an opening with a competitor and so I took that job and by November so we got engaged in July and by November we were already living in California , yeah , and so we lived there for a year and then eventually JP Morgan relocated him up to
Seattle and we've been here for almost 11 years now .
So I am sorry but I don't know . I don't regret moving from Seattle . I'm sorry , but I don't know . I don't regret moving from Seattle . But I'm curious , now that you told me you dug through his luggage looking for that ring to see if you could prepare yourself for your Parisian proposal . Where were you hoping he would propose to you ?
In Paris , Because Paris has quite a few memorable sites . Good , question .
I don't think I had a spot in mind , I just felt like this has got to be it . He's got to . And I will tell you that he was so scared to take that ring out of the hotel room .
So he , when we were in England apparently his sister had given it to his dad and we went to England and so the dad , his dad , had it , and so his dad gave it to Justin right before we flew to Paris and he had it in his pocket and then he was scared to walk around with it so he just left it in the room .
I think he hid it in our room and that's why it stayed in the room out of his luggage and he finally did it at the top because he didn't want to . He didn't want to have it in his pocket . He was scared to have it and walk around pickpocketed or something it may yeah .
Well , that's cool . I yeah , that's so cool . You did
¶ Exploring Parisian Experiences
that . I love Paris . I've been there like a handful of times and every time I want to move back .
Yeah .
Yeah , that's a cool city .
It's a cool city . I think we're going to go there . We're going to take Liam there next summer . We're talking about different . Yeah , my son , he's 10 . Justin loves to go to Europe for trips , loves to go to Europe for trips . He almost feels home , like grounded , when we go to Europe and it's fun .
It's just so different than the United States when you can go to , like Portugal and Italy and France , and they're all so different .
So it's fun . Do you speak any other languages besides English ?
I wish I could say I could , but I did take French in high school and in college because I did always want to go to Paris . But I can read it , but I can't really speak it very well .
Gotta gotta have a second home in Paris , then Right . Yeah so tell me what did you like about Paris .
Can I ask you like what were your favorite and why would you want to go back ?
like tell me more about that oh my gosh , it was the first time that I had ever been abroad . And so Paris , what I loved about it . So I guess it could have , it could have ended up . It could have ended up completely bad , but I loved meeting people who had nothing to do with the background and the area I was raised in .
I really loved running around the city with my friends . I know now that I am much more of a let's go someplace , not be a tourist , but run around and try it . Everybody says like try to have authentic local experiences . But that's really what I enjoyed . Like I was there , I lived there the first time .
It was like three months I was working there and I still have not been to a museum or inside of a Parisian museum . And yet that time when I was there , it was like I went swimming , I went roller skating . Oh my gosh , like all these things , they have this , they have these .
They call it like roller skating on mass , I think , like just in a big group . And when I was there it would happen on Friday nights and you would go , go .
If you didn't have your roller skates , like me , you would go and you would rent roller skates and then it was like easily 700 people , if not more , and they would have , you know , people on speed skates who were really good , go out ahead of the group and like block an intersection and then everybody would just kind of roll on through and you were rolling
around Paris like trying not to fall on your face because of all , like the cobblestone roads , and they would just like these chants like ole , ole , ole and all this crazy stuff , and so these kind of experiences just really impressed upon me . Luckily it was my first time abroad and so they were good , but they impressed upon me .
You leave the country , you meet people from other countries , you have all these fun I guess once in a lifetime you could say experiences , and I caught the travel bug or the live abroad bug and I've never looked . I never . I've never looked back since I'm still living abroad now .
So well , there's something you said that I can relate with , and it's traveling to places and not being a tourist .
When we went , we didn't do the typical go up the , you know , eiffel Tower , we didn't go in the Louvre either , but what we did do is we hired a local tour guide to show us the places or do the things that a local would do , and I think that's the better way , and I mean it's not a better way , but it's like such a fascinating way to experience it .
And one of the things we did was we did a bike ride around Notre Dame , which was really cool , and we also .
One thing I remember during that bike ride was the guy was showing us there was back in the day when they would like get mad at their neighbors , they would actually take a cannonball and like shoot cannonballs at their neighbor , and so there was like a cannonball lodged in a building and the story was that some one neighbor got mad at the other and like shot
the actual neighbor's building . But you get to find out random things that are different , that you wouldn't . You wouldn't know otherwise , right , and so you can see it from a different lens , which , by the way , we were just talking earlier about how experiences in order to like . It's .
It's just a way to experience life Right and in order to like if you can take this into like a business what I was saying at the beginning is like , in order to gain visibility , you have to create meaningful connections and you do this through people experiencing you , and it's the same thing on living life right , like you grow because you experience different
places . Anyway , I just wanted to share that piece because I , too , feel like that's the best way to visit is like to do something that the locals would do .
You want to hear a random story ?
Yeah .
So when I went to Paris , I thought , you know , because I was in college single guy , I thought Paris was going to be berets , baguettes and models . And the model part was true . There was lots of beautiful people in Paris and also , going over there as like a single university student male , I was like , oh , what's this thing ?
You mean I get to like kiss people on the cheek multiple times , every time like I say hi , it was great , Went to a party and it was hosted by well , cause we so anyway , the the mom of the girl whose party it was was there Totally , totally blew that one because I wasn't quite comfortable with the whole kissing thing yet , and so like I was supposed to
like give her a kiss on each cheek and so , like I just kind of shook her hand and smiled and the mom was quite upset at my lack of culture . But here's the story .
So I went to Paris and I was supposed to work there and God bless this counselor at college who , like looked at me and said , no , you wouldn't do well in a study abroad program , you need to go work in Paris . I was like cool , whatever .
So we get to Paris and this work abroad program they have like an orientation for like four hours pretty boring , but they made it a point to make us understand that there's like a couple of binders on the wall . We're independent , we have to go find our own jobs .
They gave us the paperwork as in like the legal ability to be able to work in France , but we had to go find our own jobs . And there's two binders specifically .
One is like contains previous employers and business owners that had employed like previous participants in this program , and the other was people who rented out apartments or had previously rented out apartments to participants before , and so I started looking for a job .
And then I met this group of really cool girls to go hang out with , and so we were like basically partying around Paris and I spent most of my money , and they had a lot deeper pockets than me , and so in less than two weeks I like blowed through all my cash because I didn't know any better .
I had a little bit , but I didn't have enough money to afford the , I guess , cheapest apartment that I had not been able to get approved for previously because I was looking during the daytime for a place to live . So then I ended up having to be homeless , and so when you said Notre Dame , I too was by the Notre Dame , but homeless .
There was this little cafe across the River Seine from the Notre Dame called Shakespeare and Company . It's still there . At least , it was there when I went back to Paris in like fall of 2022 . So it's still there . But starving artists scene .
You know where if you want to go , and Paris has a history with art right , so you could work there by day and sleep there at night , and so I spent several nights there before I found my place to live , which was in the north of Paris , and I had no idea at the time until I went there , but I fit in perfectly because the neighborhood was all like
northern Africans , and so that's where I lived for my whole like first stay in Paris , and it wasn't like the best neighborhood . It was pretty rough , but , like for me , I fit in perfect as long as I didn't open my mouth and people didn't hear like my American accent when I tried to speak French . Yeah , no problems whatsoever . And so that was .
That was just one of the many stories like of me being in Paris like that first time . It was a crazy , super fun trip , though .
I love it . How old were you ? 19 , 19 , yeah , that's young it is young .
Yeah , I must . Was I 19 or 18 ? It was right after my freshman year in college , so 17 , 18 , I must have been 18 , or maybe I turned 19 there you've .
You went to university of washington . U-dub right yeah , so they are big with encouraging people to go abroad . Is that where it stemmed from ?
Meaning like Just .
University of Washington . There's so many people I've met that have studied abroad and they all go to University of Washington or they graduated from there , and I wonder if they have some type of well , I was just curious . If that's the culture at UW , it's very encouraged , right .
You know , I don't remember if that was like the culture or not . I do remember , though , that they talked about studying abroad , and for me , I just I wanted to do it . I was what was your major again ?
Oh , I was in marketing and communications .
Marketing and communications . So you chose a smart major . I chose the major my dad wanted me to be in , which was physics , and I hated it . And then I went to linguistics because . So I spent actually there's this , there's this .
She's not a girl anymore , she's a lady , but she lives here now with her husband down in Mexicoxico , where I live , and like we've all become friends because me and her were friends , like we were suffering through the same , like weed out intro physics and math courses together at the university of washington and then 20 something odd years later hasn't been that
long ? It's been longer , my gosh she ends up moving down to the city here in Mexico . Wait , yeah , cause 2000 . Yeah , it's been longer than 20 years . Wow . So anyway , I suffered in college , like suffered .
I would go to my classes and spent easily like three hours in the math tutoring center and then like another three hours in the physics tutoring center , like do the math . We were on a quarter system , so like I had a schedule where I finished at either like one o'clock or 12 o'clock PM , but it was horrible .
And so after that first year I just I made a complete left turn and decided what do I like ?
And I had taken a fringe class the whole time , like each quarter , and it was the class that I didn't have time to study for because I was slaving away , like in the tutoring centers , trying trying to make the curve and I hated curves , by the way , but trying to make the curve in physics and math and so I , oh , maybe I like this foreign language thing ,
so I picked linguistics and they let you study abroad and I went and went to France and it was great .
I love it . I do love it . I really do encourage people to be able to leave the United States or leave their country it doesn't matter where they're living and just explore . I think there's so much beauty in so many things you can learn just by doing that alone educational and it's just sort of creates a foundation for success .
And it's not surprising that we're both in entrepreneurship and we both love to travel and we love to risk , try new things and just experience life right and we love to risk , try new things and just experience life , right ?
Yeah , yep , I would say the creativity that is fostered when you go overseas really does help you . It's helped me in thinking of different ways to approach businesses . You just learn from a younger age that the way you view the world isn't the only way for it to be viewed , and I think that's very important in business .
I think you'd agree , like when you need to pivot or you need to think of a solution like this , thinking outside the box , speaking of which , in the next episode , you're going to have to decide are you going to share with the audience a lot more about how quizzes can help grow your business , because that's how you were known as the quiz queen , but then now
you also have this mixer mind , which you run very , very well , and it's all about increasing visibility through partnerships . So , right here on the spot , which one is it going to be for the next episode , linda ?
I think we're going to go partnerships and Mixer Mind . I think that's the final answer .
All right , no , but this is good , though . It's like the person listening . You got to know and , linda , thank you .
Since I joined your Mixer Mind , quite a few opportunities have come up because of the relationships I built there , and though I am a Facebook ad manager , I do believe that you know , I saw this quote back in the day because I was watching a meme that said competition happens at the bottom and collaboration happens at the top , and I noticed that , like all
these people with like a million plus followers , they would just show up on each other's Instagram , they would collaborate in these skits , you know , and they're funny , they're pointless , they make you laugh , they're entertainment , right , but their audiences would just grow and I would see so many shares on each one and they would just do like a series of skits
with each other related or unrelated , and I'm like they are collaborating , and it took me joining your Mixer Mind to really get a sense for that behind the scenes .
Sure , there could be multiple copywriters or multiple people from whatever niche , but people are collaborating and exposing each other to their audiences and growing that way , and it's super effective and useful . So I can't wait to ask you more questions about that in the next episode .
Amazing . I can't wait to dive in .
Cool . So , listener , you're like how do I get this episode In the show
¶ Upcoming Episode Release Announcement
notes ? You can see a link to it . It's already there . So if you click on that link and it is not yet July 31st , please have patience . That episode will drop on July 31st , but the link is in the show notes below . Thank you for being here , Linda .
Thank you for having me .
Yeah , I know , it's really an honor .