September 21, 2003: Using the Occult - Dr. Evelyn Paglini

Art Bell opens with Whitley Strieber for a discussion on the surge in UFO activity coinciding with Mars at its closest approach to Earth in recorded history. Strieber describes a detailed abduction case from British Columbia involving two women who encountered five sets of glowing green eyes belonging to gray beings on a roadside, followed by 35 minutes of missing time and physical injuries including a radiation-like burn. He notes that multiple independent witnesses reported UFOs in the same region that night.

In the second half, Art welcomes Dr. Evelyn Paglini, a self-described Tuscany witch from a centuries-old lineage of occult practitioners. She explains that magic is a natural science rooted in the manipulation of energy and vibration, and that both protective and offensive applications are real and effective regardless of whether the target believes in them. Paglini describes using imitative magic with effigy candles and essential oils to reverse a con artist's actions, resulting in his arrest months later.

Paglini walks listeners through a love attraction ritual involving consecrated image candles, essential oils, and focused visualization, while warning that forcing someone against their will carries serious karmic consequences. She reveals that magic is actively used in Hollywood and corporate boardrooms, and claims that powerful curses have been placed on certain celebrities, affecting their relationships and personal lives.