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July 3, 1994: Look To The Future - Michael Lindemann

Feb 23, 20232 hr 18 minSeason 1994Ep. 14
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Episode description

Michael Lindemann, founder of the 2020 Group research organization, examines the UFO phenomenon through the lens of social policy, government secrecy, and humanity's place in a larger cosmic neighborhood.

Lindemann argues that decades of evidence, particularly around the Roswell incident, have brought serious UFO research to a tipping point. He describes how the military's black budget funds weapons development with no clear adversary, and how officials routinely deny the existence of known programs like the Aurora spy plane and Area 51 itself. Lindemann connects Linda Moulton Howe's report on government monitoring of non-human frequencies during mutilation events to a broader surveillance effort. He explores the ancient astronaut hypothesis, citing Sumerian astronomical knowledge that predates modern discovery by millennia and new geological evidence dating the Sphinx to over 10,000 years old. Lindemann promotes the Roswell Declaration petition and urges the Clinton administration to begin declassifying UFO information.

Art Bell and Lindemann wrestle with the central paradox of disclosure, acknowledging that a government unable to fully explain the phenomenon is unlikely to reveal what it does know.
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