July 20, 1999: Rods Update - Jose Escamilla | OBEs - Dr. Albert Taylor

Art Bell opens with the somber news that Father Malachi Martin has suffered a massive stroke and is near death, before turning to updates from Jose Escamilla on his ongoing research into the aerial anomalies known as rods. Escamilla describes new high-velocity footage captured at a cave in Mexico by Fox TV cameras, showing rod-like objects making sharp U-turns at extraordinary speeds. He announces upcoming public screenings of the footage in Burbank and Anaheim.

The second half features Albert Taylor, a former NASA aeronautical engineer and author of Soul Traveler, discussing out-of-body experiences and their connection to consciousness survival after death. Taylor describes his interrupted sleep technique for inducing OBEs and shares how his experiences fundamentally changed his worldview. On the 30th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, he and Art discuss why America abandoned deep space exploration and the political and financial forces that have kept humanity in low Earth orbit.

Taylor asserts that soul travel reveals dimensions beyond the physical, including encounters with deceased relatives and non-human entities. He and Art debate whether humanity's pursuit of technology is a distraction from spiritual development or a necessary stage of evolution that must be transcended.