July 13, 1998: Exorcisms - Father Malachi Martin

Art Bell welcomes Father Malachi Martin, eminent theologian and former Jesuit professor at the Vatican''s Pontifical Biblical Institute, for a sweeping discussion of the Roman Catholic Church''s decline and the reality of demonic possession. Martin describes how the Second Vatican Council fundamentally altered core Catholic doctrines on papal authority, marriage, and religious liberty, leading to widespread apostasy rather than mere schism. He warns that the institutional Church is on a downward slope, with practicing Catholics in Europe reduced to roughly five percent.

The conversation turns to Martin''s book "Windswept House," a faction novel mirroring the career of Cardinal Casaroli and exposing what Martin calls Satanism within portions of the Vatican. He speaks candidly about the murders of three exorcists and acknowledges that his own safety has been in jeopardy for years. Martin confirms he read the Third Secret of Fatima in 1960 and calls it the defining event for the Church''s near future.

Art reads a purported version of the Third Secret on air, and Martin confirms it contains some authentic elements but says the actual text is far more dire. Callers press Martin on free will, guardian angels, and the timeline for coming upheaval. He suggests that within eight years, the world will witness the worst of what the secret foretells.