December 19, 1997: Ghost Research - Dale Kaczmarek

Dale Kaczmarek of the Ghost Research Society joins Art Bell to discuss ghost research, paranormal investigation tools, and hauntings after Art's account of an anomalous studio webcam photograph. The image shows an unexplained protoplasmic mass surrounding his head, taken under the same lighting conditions that had produced tens of thousands of normal photographs over six months. Art rules out smoke, reflections, and camera malfunction as possible explanations.

Kaczmarek describes his three decades of paranormal investigation from the Chicago area. He describes the scientific equipment he uses, including tri-field meters and non-contact infrared thermometers, to detect electromagnetic anomalies and cold spots at haunted locations. Kaczmarek shares cases ranging from a haunted bowling alley to a home plagued by spontaneous fires centered around a 14-year-old girl.

Kaczmarek distinguishes between residual hauntings, which replay like an endless tape loop, and intelligent hauntings involving genuine interaction between spirits and the living. He recounts his own encounter with a swirling mist in a Missouri cemetery that spiraled into the ground before his eyes, comparing it to Art's mysterious studio photograph.