April 5, 2001: The Shadow People, OBEs - Dr. Albert Taylor

Art Bell welcomes Albert Taylor, aerospace engineer turned consciousness researcher, to discuss out-of-body experiences and their possible connection to the shadow people phenomenon. Taylor, who worked on the Lockheed U-2, SR-71, the F-117 stealth fighter design team, and the B-1 bomber program, describes how childhood sleep paralysis episodes eventually led him to explore OBEs through a scientific lens.

Taylor explains that shadow people sightings likely involve three categories of beings: the living who are having OBEs, the deceased who exist in a non-physical state, and entities existing between lives. He describes how the physical senses operate on a vibratory level that makes these figures visible primarily in peripheral vision, where sensory focus is relaxed. As a person nears death, their physical senses diminish and perception of these shadow figures becomes clearer and more detailed.

Taylor shares personal accounts including his uncle seeing a smiling figure in a hospital room days before dying, and a friend's near-death experience where non-physical beings surrounded him and offered passage. Art recounts his own spontaneous OBE above Paris, describing an indescribable ecstasy before snapping back into his body.